Spooky Ghost Stories with MERLE | True Paranormal Encounters - Spaced Out Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to the radio and podcast side of
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Tonight's show is brought to you by Cariboo Con. Come
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your VIP tickets. Today we're going straight paranormal tonight. Our
main man Merle is here from the Paranormal road Trippers

(02:37):
at special guests from Beyond the Haunting, Leanne and Corinn.
You may know them from many television series on goh
Schools and Goblets. Yeah, we're gonna have a great show tonight.
Then in our number three, swamp Dweller is here with
another creepy story. We're gonna follow that up. Grant Baker
will be filling in for an ailing Terry Hall as
we're gonna get into the Bigfoot story, We're going to

(02:59):
get into the the latest government news of UFOs. It's
a weird day for a lot of this and the
best part about it is you get to hear it now.
Ur number three, So let's start right with it here.
Our main man Murle is back from the Paranormal Road Trippers.
He was just in my area this past weekend doing
an investigation in a little shanty place called one hundred

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and fifty three mile house. Yeah, find that on a map.
It's like winning the Blackout bingo. It's so hard to
do it, but you're gonna see it. We're gonna talk
about it. And he was investigating with a couple of
BC friends here from the TV show Beyond the Haunting.
They've been on Destination Haunted, they have done their Caribou

(03:42):
gold Rush trail. It has been haunted, and they are
two good friends of this show as well, and in fact,
a couple of years ago they actually filmed part of
their episode in this studio where I'm broadcasting right now.
And it's so good to have Murle here. How you
doing buddy, it's good to have you back.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Fantastic, Dave the Deceeed, I just saw you yesterday or something.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
You totally saw me yesterday. It was awesome, it was
absolutely awesome. Yeah, yeah, it was very good. And then
we bring in Leanne and Corinne from Beyond the Haunting Ladies.
It's so nice to have you, and you know what,
we're pretty close to being neighbors. Leanne, we're pretty close.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
That's right, Thanks for having us.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
I remember being in that studio filming that episode.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
It was tight. It was tight.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, you know, but three of us in there, it
was very tight. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
My favorite part was your whole roll call of everybody
and welcoming. I was just sitting behind you and no
one knew who I was yet.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
And now now you're signing autographs after the show, So
line up to the center of the studio if you
don't mind, to the center of the studio, Leanne. But
if you make eye contact with Leanne, she will not sign.
That's just lead.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Do you know all the tricks.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, So we're going to get into some parrot normal
stories here, because you know, we've talked over the years
of morle about how Haunted the Caribou region a British
Columbia is and you went into a brand new place.
And coincidentally it kind of ties in to what I'm
doing on my side project with Haunted one o eight,
where you're literally going to a location where they're trying

(05:21):
to move that building down to the heritage site where
we actually do Haunted one o eight called the one
hundred and fifty three miles Store and tell us about it.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
The one fifty three miles Store. Oh boy, that was
built in what was it, nineteen twenty. It's got a
kind of a cool store. How do you I'm just
trying to remember how to say his last name. It's
no Prosina, Yeah, Rosina. A guy by the name of
Louis Christina. He wanted to come to British Columbia with

(05:53):
his brothers and they accidentally went to Columbia.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
It's quite the story.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, for four years, but then he finally made his
way up the British Columbia and hung his hat in
one fifty three mile And the history we learned about
when we were there about it's quite the hub. People
go into Barkerville's where that's where they stopped. There are

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tons of it is Cott Ranch, and just all the stories,
all the characters, all the family we learned about was fantastic.
And I can't wait for that place to be moved
the one to eight mile Historic Site so we can
keep the history alive.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
And Leanne and Corin, you guys have done such a
great job in telling the stories of this legendary gold
Rush trail that starts literally in Virginia City and eventually
makes his way up. I mean right behind my studio here,
if you walked about three quarters of a mile, you're
on the gold Rush Trail. It is haunted as anything.

(07:00):
The spirits just seemed to be kind of walking along.
Why Karin, do you love this area so much?

Speaker 7 (07:08):
I think it's because it's in our own backyard, Like
we've talked about it for years. But you know, there's
so much history around the world, but nobody really thinks
about like BC, And I think that was one of
the draws, Like there's so much history here and it
goes back so long, and that gold Rush Trail, like
you're talking about from Virginia City, but even from Victoria
and like Yale and all the way up like through

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New West. The journey to get there is, so to me,
it's fascinating the history alone of how in the world,
like like tens of thousands of people came from around
the world try to get to Barkerville, Like that's a
journey in itself today, let alone in the eighteen hundred.
So I think it's just fascinating. And bringing that history
alive to a new generation through a paranormal lens and

(07:49):
showcasing what really happened in our own province, I think
is really important to get those stories out and share
what people went through.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
And one thing that we have talked about, and I
don't think you know, the majority of our audience is
from the United States, you know, just like the majority
of your audience is in the United States as well.
As weird as that sounds, but one of the things
that I have told our audience over the years, Leanne
is as Canadians, we don't do enough to really push

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our heritage. How we were built, what happened, what was
the gold Rush Trail all about? If this section of
the gold Rush Trail was in the United States, it
would be blown up, like the Oregon Trail is or
Virginia City, you know, the San Francisco forty nine ers
were named after the gold Rush. That's why they have
gold in their uniform.

Speaker 8 (08:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yet up here, the minute you hit the Canadian border
lyand that whole story just disappears. And it's up to
people like us to bring attention to it.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Totally.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
We need to be better storytellers, and I think we are.
I think we're getting there. I think the gold Rush
Trail is so unique because people might hear about in
the States. They might hear about Britainish Columbia, the wildfires,
the highway washouts, the floods. Maybe they don't, but it's
an intense place and mother nature rocks this province, like
it is a hard place to navigate. Like me and

(09:11):
Dave both live up in like near Hunter Milehouse, and
we're constantly dealing with tourism aspects of you know, tourism
suppers because sometimes people just can't get here.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
You know, the highways are washed out.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
But this place, when we talk about one hundred and
fifty three miles store, like it kind of got to
me because you walk in there and it is totally preserved.
Like how often even in the States, like do you
go somewhere and it is one hundred percent how it
was left in nineteen sixty three, like everything on the shelves,
the shoes, everything we commented on, the medicine, the lady

(09:46):
who like will get to her who passed away, like
literally the last calendar turn she did in nineteen sixty three,
is just it's all there.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
And then they shut the door.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
And so we have this amazing opportunity once again hopefully
tell the story.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
So yeah, there's lots.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Here and the thing is coriinn to bring you back in.
If we don't tell the story of places like this,
this disappears. And so many of these types of buildings
across not only British Columbia, but across Canada, especially where
the populations are so centralized. For people who don't know,

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British Columbia has a population of around six million people.
Four million of those people live in the greater Vancouver
area alone, in a span of maybe seventy five miles.
You got about a million people on Vancouver Island, and
then you've got about a million people that kind of
splatter out, you know, and British And for people who

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don't understand how big British Columbia is, you could literally
put California, Washington, Oregon, and Idaho and even some of
Nevada inside of British Columbia in order to kind of
generate how big it is. So you have this splattering
of people, you know, little pockets like where we are

(11:05):
broadcasting right now, one hundred mile House, British Columbia. You know,
we have a population of what twenty two hundred, twenty
five hundred maybe at max right and then you have
all these little communities that are spread out and those
stories get lost the grid.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
Especially and for our team is you know, we want
to bring those stories to life. We want to share
those stories that no one's heard about because there's so
many valuable things, like in the one fifty three store.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, absolutely, there's a lot going on there.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
It's like there's just so many things that I think,
you know, the province is huge, and we're living in
such a global.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
Age that.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I get it. I get it. No, I totally understand
with where you guys are coming from, and you know
that type of history, that type of history. Sorry, guys,
we're buffering on the YouTube side of things a little

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bit right now. This is a new problem that just
started yesterday, So it'll click in here. I don't know when,
but it will. But in telling that type of history
and story career about it, because you know, our radio
side missed that little bit there, the storytelling and keeping
up with that history. The fact that the one fifty

(12:38):
three mile store still has brand new shoes dozens of
boxes of brand new handmade shoes in there, or like
you said, mertle medicine bottles that have never been opened
from and they're in the original packages, clothing, food, everything.
It's just absolutely insane that there is this place in

(13:02):
the middle of nowhere that nobody will ever travel to
and it has hundreds of stories cared.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
Yeah, and the one thing in that store that stood
up to me the most were the ledgers. They kept
track of every person that was coming in and what
they purchased and the dates they like, that alone is incredible,
So you know, when you're going through that you can
see who like these are names of real people who
lived that journey and went to that place and traveled

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to potentially Barkerville and made it up to one fifty
three miles. So I think it's really important to realize
that it's not just the past, it's these are people
like you and me that did this in a very
different era, and to share those stories and really experience
what it was like, I think is so valuable for everyone,
whether it be like I was saying earlier, if you
missed it through a historical or a paranormal lens or both.

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You know, just really put yourself into that and immerse
yourself in that experience.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
This is your first time working with Leanne and Krin
and vice versa. I mean, how great was it to
work with them?

Speaker 4 (14:08):
It was great? Like it was cool. I think when
we met within a handful of minutes, we were all
really relaxed. It was it was great. The energy was high.
We were all positive, and we were all really keen
to get to know each other and get get down
to business and and tell a story. And we were
I don't mind, we were so fluid at it and

(14:30):
so I give it an a plus. As a teacher.
Was nice and yeah, the story we told, we we
we were learning off each other. And I got to
say when we when we started filming, we walked in
the store and and Krinn just started saying, Who's violent?

(14:54):
And then Dave, you know me, I'm a private guy.
I don't talk about any personal off ever, but here
we are on Space out Radio.

Speaker 7 (15:04):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, so so then then I stay quiet. I'm like, okay,
I know that name. And then and then she said,
well Viola and then Viola was my mom's aunt. And
I'm like, okay, now now we have a chat. And
basically when we started on that set the tone, I'm like,
oh damn, she's she's top tier medium. That's what we're

(15:30):
dealing with here. And the one thing working with with
with the ladies was how how how well they work
together and how happy they are doing the investigation, and
how much energy they bring to tell the story not
just find the spooky stuff and the ghosts and that,
but fine answers. And it's a rare fine to work

(15:55):
with people like that because I try to be like
that and I think I do that quite well well.
And to find other people that do that is and
you and you collaborate on such an important video, you know,
that's a that's a home Runny knock that out of
the park. That's how I felt about it.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, And and you know what, I'm so glad because
you know, I kind of felt like a conduit in
between you guys, even though I'm not the paranormal investigator, right.
You know, I've got to know Leanne you pretty well
over the last few years. And merle I, you know,
you're one of my best friends in this field. And
and you know, to bring you guys, you know, to

(16:34):
have you guys kind of finally meet and go do
your your your ghost investigations together and work well with
each other. I mean, to dream come true for me
because you're you're all just such awesome people and you
know I and I'm so proud of your success ladies,
on what you've done with beyond the haunting. I mean,

(16:55):
it's kind of cool when you can grab somebody you
may not know very well, but you've heard a lot them,
and then all of a sudden, would you connect Leanne,
it just seems to click.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, no, we agree.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
I mean, so Kelly couldn't be on the show tonight,
but of course Kelly was with us, and you know, yeah,
Jeff and we just felt like it was intuitively just clicked,
like you said, and if one person needed to grab
a camera, they would do it. You know, there was
no questions. We just knew where to go and what
to do. And yeah, it was really cool. And it
was an interesting like it's a rare find when you

(17:28):
have owners of a location. So this is on private
property currently, and the owners were very gracious and they
kind of joined us as well, and even they flowed
into it. You know, like it was just a really
good investigation.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
Yeah, I agree, and I think, like you said, everybody
just clicked and it was it was interesting how active
it really was. I wasn't sure and yeah, and thank
you for saying that earlier. And you know, I didn't
expect your parent or your mom and your aunt to
come through at all. I was expecting to find out
what was going on in the store. But a lot
of times, as we found out, the energies and the

(18:02):
spirits that come through usually have to do with the.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
People who are still living as well.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
So you know, we have your relatives, we had their relatives,
We had people are spirits from the store, and then
there's some that we're still.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Trying to piece together. So like, yeah, it was it
was an event.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
We can't take Korean anywhere, you know, like she asking
what everyone are reading?

Speaker 5 (18:20):
It interrupts everything. Hold the phone, yes.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Side missions. One thing I really enjoyed Dave about this
one because like we've experienced this at one oweight with
with like Kelly at went oweight, but like having the
owners or the property owners involved in the investigation and
active and finding answers for them and connecting dots for

(18:45):
them while doing the investigation is kind of I think
that makes it really worth what we did at one
fifty three mile.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I think that's great. I want to ask you, Leanne,
if you don't mind, what what's the biggest difference between
doing a paranormal investigation when you're doing it for a
television production compared to what you guys just did at
one fifty three mile, Because you know, I think for
a lot of people, we think it's all the same,

(19:15):
but it really is not.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
Yeah, I mean with like, you can be really nimble
in these ones. So when we went into one fifty three,
it's like we all we have goals, we know what
we kind of want to do. We set like, okay,
let's try this or try this, and it's just more
fast paced. I feel like like sometimes when you're filming
for a show, there's a bit of waiting, there's a
bit of setup, you know, like there's the angles and

(19:39):
the lighting and stuff.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
But on these ones, it's more like let's just go Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:44):
I think Also one of the things is, you know,
when you're filming, you have a certain time, you have
certain locations, you have to be gone.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
By this time.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
We've set up the meeting with the interview with the
owners or whoever are like the clients at this time.
So it's kind of like more regimented where when you
can really spend the time delve in. I find that's
a lot more what's.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
The word, a lot more at ease bluid.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
Yeah, like you have more time to really like delve
in and spend some more time and really think things that, yeah,
more in depth exactly, and if we need.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
To grab like we needed at one point. I'm sorry,
I'm just jumping ahead, but at one point it kind
of got quiet in the store, like spirit wise, and
we all knew intuitively, oh, we need to get the
owner back here because it was super active when he
was there. And so just being able to be like, hey, Roger,
can you come back down here now, like right now,

(20:38):
and you know, just kind of on the fly stuff
is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, we got about three and a half minutes ago
before we go to break here at the bottom of
the hour. We have our main man Merle around here
from the Paranormal road Trippers, along with Corin and Leanne
from Beyond the Haunting. We're talking about their past investigation
just this past weekend. And you know, when you walk
into a place like that that really hasn't had the

(21:03):
doors open to anybody from the public for decades, Merle,
what's the energy like when you go into a place
like that?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Overwhelming? It's basically like opening a fresh can of pop
or like a fresh scented whatever. It just hits you
in the face. That place literally a time capsule from
nineteen sixty three. And I don't think any no other
team has ever been there, no other spiritual person, no psychics,

(21:33):
the mediums, no ghost hunters, And I think when they
sniffed us out, and they especially get like the spirits
in the place, but they're like, whoa, there's somebody that
can see us. They jumped in pretty hard and heavy
to wanting to communicate with us in a friendly way,
in a very inquisitive and I think that's being being

(21:57):
a pnimal investigator. I think and the hunting can agree
going to a fresh location or a new location to
be able to tell the story where nothing is ever
done like that. It's it's pretty nice, it's great.

Speaker 6 (22:14):
And we've been super fortunate too, and I'm sure it's
the same for you we get access to places like this.
I think it's also our approach to it. You know,
it's very respectful, it's very like, let's find the answers,
let's find the history. But we get told that often
like you're the first team that's been able to go
into this location, so like it's kind of neat to
have that, you know, that respect and all that stuff.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
It's pretty humbling that they allow us to do that, right,
and then because of that we feel, as you do.
I'm sure that we want to deliver for those owners
of the clients, and we really want to tell the
story and find out what's really going on for them.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
So yeah, it's it's always.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
An adventure and not just that though, But I think
from an outsider's perspective, the way both of you guys
investigate it allows people who may not have had interactions
with paranormal teams in the past. It gives them a
good litmus test of what they expect. So that way,

(23:12):
if somebody gets a little rowdy or or starts doing things.
They could say, hey, that's not right, I don't want
that done here, and you know, they can set up
their own rules and regulations. I mean, unfortunately a lot
of places have to learn the hard way that not
all paranormal teams or investigators are the same. So when

(23:33):
you go in there and you do it right for
the first time, at least they have now a litmus
test of what they should expect rather than what they
may not want to because if they have a bad
team come in that really doesn't respect the location, well
that's going to ruin it for every other team out there,
rather than doing what you guys did, which is set

(23:56):
it up for other people, but also allowing rules and
regulations to be followed by the location as well so
they know what they're looking for. So good job on that,
you guys. We have our main man merle And from
the Paranormal road Trippers based out of Vancouver, British Columbia
and Canadian ghost Hunters right here from the Cariboo. We

(24:16):
have Leanne, we have Carine from Beyond the Haunting. This
is spaced out radio. We're gonna get into some ghost
stories of what they uncovered at the infamous one hundred
and fifty three mile store next in the next half hour.

(24:47):
All right, we're clear, let me just unmute. Here there
we go. Good start, guys, good start.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
One.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Totally fine.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
It's a bit leggy. I think I jumped in a
few times when it was quiet, but it wasn't really quiet.
It was, Dave, I think it was lagging on No.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
It was lagging on my side. It buffered on my side.
This buffering thing just started like yesterday. I never had
it happen before, and it started yesterday where the audience
could hear the guests, but I couldn't hear them like
it was like they were frozen on my end.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
So you're just nodding, We'll just keep talking.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I'm nodding. The funny part about it is that that
audio is not transforming to the radio side, So now
I have to talk until try and figure out when
the lag is going to end, so and then cut that.
Then you got your audio comes back in and it
only seems to happen for like a brief moment, so
I'm not sure why it's doing that.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
So it's not our Wi Fi connection.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
No, it's not you guys at all. It's on my side.
We should be good for the rest of the show. Now.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Cool.

Speaker 8 (26:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
By the way, I'm going to do something that I've
never done before for our chat room people on YouTube.
Put your Merle names up, and I will choose the
best ones to put up and rename him every half hour.
I do it every show.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
I do it every show.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Uh huh.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
And I speak in third person clearly.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
I like that. You should continue that.

Speaker 9 (26:34):
Yes, m.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
So get those names in. Denise Corwin, how are you.
I had a lady in my daytime office from the
Rotary Club come in the other day and oh, this
was yesterday, as a matter of fact, And so she
hands me this rotary sheet because you know, they're building
that coupon book. I don't know who does coupons anymore,
but apparently people in our in our town still do.

(27:00):
And and so as she's leaving, she goes, oh, by
the way, I listen to your show every night. My
husband will be my husband will be on the couch,
and I don't want to watch what he's watching, so
I just watch on my phone every night.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
What's her name?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I don't know what I forgot her name, lady from
the Rotary club. Whoever you are, I love you. I'm
sorry I forgot your name, but there's a shout out
to you because you made me so happy.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
She'll be in your office tomorrow right.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Get your coupons days.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I got a brutal day tomorrow, brutal. I literally will finish.
I'm cutting an hour off the show tomorrow night because
I'll end at eleven, and then at eleven fifteen I'll
be at seven to eleven filling up my tank and
driving to the airport for.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
The morning.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Going on baking UFO con in San Francisco. Nice cool
so and then I'm there till Monday morning, drive home,
do the show that night. No rest never runs.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
I just finished working on the UFO survey with Chris Fortowski,
our buddy Chris, so we just released that.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I love Chris. I gotta get him back on the show.
It's been way too long, way too long.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
All right.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
I'm just perusing all these moral names just to see
what we're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh, well, we're gonna go with this one right here.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
There's a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, there we go malicious like that.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
It's a strong one.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Half an hour. I'm going to ask you guys, and
I'm only choosing one. Okay, Murloyd. That sounds like a hemorrhoid.
Cream it does, Murlloyd Burloyd the hemorrhoid. That's not fun
what a terrible name?

Speaker 4 (29:23):
That's funny?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Oh god, I love this game so much. I've done
it for years, every every half an hour I changed
his name. And the funny part about it is the
first few months I did it, he didn't even notice.

Speaker 6 (29:38):
M hmm, it said Chris Rotowski is my third favorite Canadian.
I'm so curious. Who's number one?

Speaker 4 (29:44):
And two?

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Is it Dave and Malicious?

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh that's Nicole Sachets.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
No.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Number one is Grant Cameron. Number two is me Hi
number one Nicole.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Thanks Nicole, Thanks Pat Leal.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
How you doing all right? We're coming back in ten seconds.
Thank you tonight to Kitty caddywack T Bone and Lil
Cam for the super chats. It's a wonderful way to
support what we do on this show. And let's get
it going right now.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
We should not look at these comments, dues.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Here we go the second half hour of Spaced Out
Radio tonight. My name is Dave Scott. We appreciate you
tuning us on in or goes to the Great White
North with our main man Merle, and special guests Lean
and Carin from Beyond the Haunting. Now, before we bring
them back in, we want to remind all of you
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Let's bring them on in. Our main man Merle from

(31:15):
the Paranormal road Trippers based out of Vancouver, British Columbia,
just in our area investigating a nice haunted store with
the ladies from Beyond the Haunting, Leanne and Corinn. Thank
you Merle for bringing these two on. It's been a
while since we had them on, so it's good to
have you guys back.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Thanks for having us, Thanks for having us.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
All right, Merle, this is where you step in.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
It is I'm waiting for the name man. I know
that so I can say it to your audience that
can't see us, so you can say it.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
It's merlicious. So every for our radio audience, we use
a program that we can balance out the radio show
and then it goes live on YouTube and on this
stream we have their video up and and every half
an hour I change the name of Merle, so it's

(32:08):
gone to Merlicious for this half hour. First one was
Merle Necklace. Now it's malicious. So that's what we do.
It's a little game that we play and it's fun.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Merle's consented to it.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yes, yes, he consense. All right, buddy, you wanted to
get into some ghost stories with LeAnn and Krinn.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, just I'll go off what we were just talking
about before the break, when we were talking about the location,
respecting location and telling its stories. And one thing I
liked about I really liked about working with the beyonda
Haunting ladies is how involved we all were with the

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owner of the property and the owner like the owner
of the store, because we really wanted to tell their
story properly. And one thing I like to do when
I go to locations, especially being the first person there
to tell these stories, is I liked sometimes the owners
will look at me like, aren't you making these decisions?

Speaker 9 (33:11):
Is?

Speaker 4 (33:12):
I will bluntly say, what do you want us to tell?
What would you like the world or whomever watches this
to know about your location, about your story? What stories
do you want to be told? Or when we do interviews,
where would on your properties, all these big vast properties,
where would you like your interview to tell the story?

(33:32):
And I don't mind putting people in places, but I
really enjoy having them be so comfortable in wanting to
tell stories, to just bring the places to life. But
that being said, yes, let's get into the ghost stories.
I'd say the activity popped off immediately when we all

(33:55):
walked in. And the fun part was when I sat
down with Lean, Karin and Kelly and Jeff Uh I
was like, do y'all want to know the ghost stories?
Because I did a bunch of digging. I like to
do the history part. And then Karin's like, nah, but

(34:18):
I just want to go in and see what we find,
which was awesome because we filmed a really interesting walk
through the first night we were there, and it was
all getting the feelings. And that's when she was talking
to a lot of the spirits that were coming through,
and essentially I didn't need to tell the ghost stories,
the or the encounters that happened there because they all
came out that night, which was really cool. How did

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you guys feel about the walkthrough when we did it?

Speaker 7 (34:47):
Yeah, for me, it's interesting because I know that's why
I don't like knowing things beforehand, Like we'll do the
research afterwards, but when we walk into a place, we
don't know what we're going to expect, so we'll get
like you saw, it was just like whoa, and that energy,
like you said, you open it up like a popwallle
it just hits you. And for me it's like whoa.
I got to figure out what I'm seeing. So all

(35:08):
these energies and spirits were stepping forward to communicate with
the owner with Roger, and so we know that I
was kind of shocked because it was like some of his,
some of you are some of and I couldn't place
all of them. And it was fast and furious, which
is pretty typical.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
For us and for those of you that don't know,
Korean's are very talented psychic medium So like spirits go
to her like she's a lighthouse and they just gravitate
towards her.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
So that was happening in the walkthrough.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
Yeah, and that tends to happen when we first walk
into any location. We'll like kind of get we'll all
pick up certain areas and then we'll pick up an
energy and be like okay, well tonight or whenever we
go back, we'll focus on that space and see what
else we can get to validate and help the owners.
So for me, I was quite shocked at how many
and when we did the full investigation, like the there

(35:54):
was other energies coming forward that we hadn't really connected
with on night one, and so you know, it's like
how many more are and like, I'm sure there's more,
but it was all like telling that story and every
time we got a new new energy and something connected
and the owners were like yeah that so and so
we're like wow, like there's so much history here. So yeah,
for me, it was pretty intense the first night, and

(36:15):
then I was just excited to get back in and
follow up with the investigation.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Yeah, and this is like a family, It's a ranching
like cattle family, tons of history, big families, some tragedies,
lots of stories, tons of siblings.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
So it was the first.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
Time ever that they had a chance to connect with somebody.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Right, So we walked into that store.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
It's like brothers, parents, grandparents, you know, all the history
of the store, people that work there. So we really
kind of had to hone in on what we want
to do in that walk through, right, and it turned
into some personal stuff. But yeah, like you just never
know what you're gonna get when you first walk into
a building like that.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Current. I had a question for you actually, Like I
wanted to ask you this up there as a psychic medium,
what happens like, like walk me through like you go
into like I could, I could see it looking everywhere
when the spirits want to talk to you, but like
what is happening through your eyes? Like what do you
see and what do you feel? And like with all

(37:18):
the different energies people like those coming through to you,
what dissected for me and our and our listeners. I
know they want to know.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
It's an excellent question.

Speaker 7 (37:31):
I get asked quite often about that, and it's taken
me years to articulate how it kind of works. So
my first thing as soon as I walk into a space,
the first thing and you got everyone feels this, you know,
when someone's standing right behind you, you know, when someone's walked
up behind you. I feel like people are behind me.
And then I start to see and I explain it,

(37:52):
like you know, the old school movie reels, the black
and white movie reels. I see that in my left
vision preferal vision, and they're flashing images at me, and
out of my left ear, I can hear kind of
like a static and old static TV, you know, with
the antennas, that kind of old TV. So I'm trying
to I'm hearing certain things being broadcast I'm or talk

(38:12):
to or however that works, and I'm seeing these and
I'm trying to interpret it. And then as I'm interpreting,
I'm seeing like white energies or darker energies or gray myths,
and I can tell where they.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Are and I'm getting flash images of them.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
So when I'm when I saw, for example, was it
your mum, Violet or Violet? I can't remember who was
who at the time, Violet, Okay, So when I saw her,
it was like I could see her over here, and
she's showing me certain images of certain things, and then
I knew that was her, and I'm like, okay, So
that I can put aside who is this?

Speaker 5 (38:41):
So the interpretation is the hardest part.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
So for you know, my entire life, I've tried to
like what is Why are they showing me a symbol
that makes no sense to me? But then when I
explained it, it makes sense to the person or you know,
for example, they'll show me as someone I know and
then I'll say their name and then that connects. So
it's like they're trying to show me in my conscious
things that I will connect with to explain to you.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
And then I'll see them flash in and out, and sometimes,
like even in.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
The investigation, usually I just have senses of what they're
showing me, and I can tell they're they're around, or
I can see them like fading in and out and moving.
But we had I saw the darkest black shadow of
what to me look like a young child or a
shorter person pop right out. The music box goes off,
you know, we're mapping it in on the SLS and

(39:28):
it's like it's walking right past the store really fast,
or inside the store at the back.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
So it can be a shadow figure, it can be
a white man.

Speaker 7 (39:36):
It's it just depends on how much energy and how
they're presenting to me, but usually I can feel them
behind me and then I start to see the image
and then I can tell where they are and kind
of what they look like.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
And she has triggers, so we all know when it's
about to happen, right, Like you got to experience that,
like she's kind of looking around or like tapping, and
like you just know there's a thing's going on in
your mind and you just have.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
To notice the tapping.

Speaker 7 (39:58):
Really, yeah, I don't even remember doing it, and like
apparently Kelly's always like you're biting your left, what's happening?

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Like I am like, well, Kelly and I both know,
like what's happening, so we just kind of like let
it come through. But I mean that on a scale
was higher up there because like normally it's one or
two things. There's a lot and a walk through, but
we were just like wow, I was, this is a lot.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
Ye. So yeah, I don't know if that resonates, but
like to me, it's it's it's been very consistent about
seeing those images, feeling the person and then seeing them
and like clear's day and then fading away.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Then then then kind of question off that is like
when you take a location, for example, like one fifty
three that we are at wait, which was brand new territory,
versus a location like a museum that's had a lot
of high volume traffic go through it as this psychic medium.
Does the energy fade or is it the same in

(40:54):
both places?

Speaker 5 (40:55):
Good question, Well there is. It's depends. I guess it depends,
like you will.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
If there's a place where there's a lot of people
going in, the energy is sometimes harder to connect with
because there's all the residual energy of the people that
have been in that space, so you know, and there's
times like like we've done so many investigations, but like
one that stands out for me was at the Washer Club.
We're speaking of Virginia City in Nevada. We were there,
I don't know, twenty sixteen ish, and we went because

(41:21):
I'm like, is that really that haunted? Like is it
really like? I want to experience this for myself. So
we went down and I went in and I was like,
at first, I was like, Okay, it's not that bad.
And then the first time we went We've been on
there a couple times, but the first time I was
so overwhelmed, like I was shaking so badly. Leanne had
to pull me out, Like she literally physically took me

(41:44):
out of that space because I was like, what is happening?
And it was almost like there was so much energy
from the past, from the people that were there, from
the owners that lived there, from the people that had
been downstairs earlier. It was that was just so much
that I needed to take a minute and get out.
So a new space can be exciting because it's fresh,
but places like museums can have a lot of other

(42:04):
energy that you got to work through to try to
interpret what's going on.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
You know, what I'm so curious about is when this
building actually moves hopefully to the one on Waite site
and Dave's involved in it on that end of it,
will the ghosts there move with it? Because there's a
lot of family, you know, like it's a family property,
family thing. So like that's going to be fascinating when
the time comes, like who's going to be in the store.

Speaker 7 (42:30):
Because a lot of times those energies are connected to
the people that are still living right And you know,
I'm not sure, I'm not sure that there's going to
be one specific ghost that goes with the building. I
don't know, like it's it's fascinating to consider.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Here's one of the things that I always wonder about,
especially on locations like the gold Rush Trail, is you
have your residence spirits, but you also have a bunch
of transients that come in. And this is always what
makes me under are they ghosts or are we watching
different timelines you know, combine with each other. And I

(43:07):
don't know why that blows my mind, but it does
because I can't figure it out because years ago I
used to think, oh, a ghost is a ghost, is
a ghost, you know? And then I learned that there
were a spirit difference between a spirit and ghost, but
the transient ghost compared to the regular ghosts compared to
the timeline and dimensions, and all of this messed me up,

(43:30):
totally messed me up. So one thing about a place
like this is where you have because it's a store,
you have a bunch of transient spirits. Maybe they're coming
in for a can of corn, maybe they're coming in
for a new pair of shoes or a T shirt,
or maybe they need a new pair of jeans or

(43:51):
cat food, whatever it may be. So its a store,
you have transient spirits Carinn, but you also have the regulars.
How do you tell the difference between the two because
the two can also act very differently in personality.

Speaker 7 (44:05):
Absolutely, and there's been places where you know, we've we've
been told that this is the ghost that's in the building,
but they've also randomly gotten this other thing, and so
when you know, you go in, you're like, Okay, well,
like I think this is what's happening, But like you said,
it blows your mind. Could it be a different timeline?
Is it different frequencies, like different energies, Because there's been
places and times where it's almost like there's two or

(44:27):
three energies in the same place, but they don't seem
to interact. I'm like, well, if they're all in the
same place, how are they not interacting?

Speaker 5 (44:32):
You know?

Speaker 7 (44:33):
Like so it does lead to bigger questions for sure,
And you can go down that rabbit hole and it
doesn't ow my mind too. But yeah, it's definitely the
ones that are there a lot are easier to pick
up on. The transient ones so to speak, that pop
in and out. I think it's just I think we
even experienced some of that, Like we had that you
know that that term come up during your esta's method,

(44:56):
and you know, you're like, well, that's a blast in
the past. But I think things can pop in and
out and it's just how much we engage with them
that it will either like we accept it, engage with it, it
will continue where we block it and it goes away.
Like I don't know how or why that does, but
you know they do pop in and out for sure.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
And that's the whole thing is like some people claim
to be paranormal experts and like they know everything.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
On an expert level. It's like, we don't know.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
This is like a great example of like the timelines,
Like like Crean said, not to go down the rabbit hole,
but if time doesn't exist, Dave, like, and everything's happening
right now on the gold Rush trail, Like what are
we actually tapping into you know, like we the ghost
to them, Like you know, we don't really know, like
from that level, so it's fascinating to like try to
get the evidence and explain what's happening.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
I agree, Like it's interesting because we like I'll tell
the us to Starry Dave, Remember it went away a
mile When I was investigating, I had the name I'll
just say it. Ematas came through and when if you
google that name, it's not a very pleasant spirit. And
that came through on my spirit chat, which for our

(46:04):
audience it's kind of it's a word bank where it
says that it goes to manipulate the EMF and and
articulate a word through it. It's basically Britain's obulus. And
that happened last year and it spooked me and I
actually ended our session abruptly at one o eight mile

(46:25):
and that was the end of that. And then fast
forward to two days ago at the one fifty three
mile I was we were doing the STS methodoe I
was the one with the goggles on and the radio
of the spirit chat. For our audience, that's a sensory
deprivation exercise where a spirit chat where a spirit box
is sweeping AMF frequencies and they say spirits communipulate the

(46:49):
frequencies to say words and with headphones on, and that
name came through. I think was holding the ovulous, which
is a spirit chat, but isn't This one was an
older version even and the word Hematas came through on

(47:09):
on that. What's the likelihood and chances of that to happen.
That's that blew my mind and kind of freaked me
out a bit, but we prevailed. I trusted that it
wasn't bad and or anything like that. And yeah, it's weird.
That's Merle. Sorry to cut you off.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Would that be a spirit that's maybe following you around
from location to location?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
We talked about that and you said more of a
trickster than anything.

Speaker 7 (47:39):
Yeah, I didn't pick up anything. They like, there's nothing
attached to Merle. Sorry the name threw me off for
a second, but I didn't think of anything attached to Merle.

Speaker 9 (47:52):
I do.

Speaker 7 (47:53):
And we've gone to places before and people always ask me,
you know, have you come across anything evil?

Speaker 5 (47:59):
And we get that all the time, and I'm sure
we have, but if it's evil, I don't want any
part of it. We don't engage with it.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
We move on and we you know, we're there for
a purpose, and it's to communicate with family and you know,
the people that told the stories there. I don't want
to talk to whatever that is. So I didn't pick
up anything that was going to be attached. I didn't
think anything was negative in that moment, and we ignored
it and honestly, I felt like it left, like I
felt like it was a trickster, like we're here, like
that transient thing. And then it left again and we

(48:28):
and right away it got calm again, and then the
family came through again. So I don't know what that is,
but I didn't feel anything at that time or even now.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
It was negative about that.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
But right after that, oh sorry, oh no, go ahead,
go for it.

Speaker 6 (48:42):
I was gonna say, right after that, remember, it was
the energy shifted, and you didn't know this, and I
don't know if you've looked at the footage yet, but
I said, do you want me to open the door
like the front general store door? And you said, like,
good idea, And so I walked across the room to
the back and I rang the bell, which I feel
like just changed the energy totally, because you're like, oh,

(49:04):
I feel good now, you know, like it was, it
just shifted. And then when I rang the bell again,
you said, good evening. I don't know if you've looked
at the footage, have you? Am I giving stuff away?
Am I not supposed to?

Speaker 4 (49:16):
But you can say that I looked at the hermatos
stuff I had.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
To, okay, And then I think the last time you
said we're close or we're closed. So it was very
cool that you were actually responding to the door and
the bell like across the room, not being able to
hear anything.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Yeah, and instantly the energy shifted.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
That's good And to further the Hermatos story. So during
our want to Wait footage, Anthony he was investigating with me.
He's my friend from Barkerville and I called him today.
I'm like, you'll never guess what name came through? And
then I told him that you said that it's a trickster.
It's nothing too bad, and he dropped a couple of
swear words on the phone and he's like, you'll never guess.

(49:57):
I was in Toronto, Ontario, Canada in October and I
asked about this and that psychic said that it was
just a trickster and not to be worried. So that
was that was a kind of a mind blowing moment
that I think that, like, there are a lot of
tricksters out there that chest puff and have a lot
of hot air, so to speak, trying to scare people

(50:18):
and play with them.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
Were you thinking about that word at all before it
came up?

Speaker 4 (50:25):
Nope, Okay, Yeah, no, that was shelved, that was compartmentalized
a way.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
So yeah, yeah, those ones are weird.

Speaker 7 (50:33):
But like, honestly, I felt like if we talked about
this before too, and our investigation kind of motto is
if anyone's uncomfortable, we call it. It doesn't matter. If someone's out,
we're all out, you know. And the same went with you.
If you were ready to leave, we would have left
with you. I didn't feel anything, but you know, we
carried on. But if you had been serious and wanted
to leave, we would have called it because we respect

(50:54):
the investigators. We're the ones that have to live with
any aftermath, right, So absolutely.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
We got about three minutes ago before we have to
go to break. At the top of the hour, main
man Murle from the Paranormal Road Trippers is here. We're
talking ghost stories with Leanne and Carine from Beyond the Haunting.
And as you guys go through this location, explain the
building to us, Leanne, what's it look like? Paint a
picture for us.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
Yeah, it's so through these people's property, like on their
farm in the middle of these cattle ranches, is this
old shed that looks like.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Nothing from the outside.

Speaker 6 (51:31):
And then you walk in the front door, the bell
rings and you see nineteen sixty three as it was
like everything shelves, really high ceilings, clothes, shoes, everything for sale.
Like we had actually quite a fun time going around
looking at all the different you know, nineteen twenties, nineteen

(51:52):
thirties era stuff. And then actually the best part for
V Dave was they lifted the attic ladder down And
for those of you that don't know, Creane has a
fear of heights like no other, so like getting her
upstairs was.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
This whole event and yeah, it's hopefully gonna make the episode.

Speaker 6 (52:14):
And then getting up to the top it's the same,
like everything was just put upstairs that they didn't have
room four downstairs, so it's stacked. You see skates from
nineteen ten, boxes full of clothes, like unopened price tags on.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
You should talk about the skates.

Speaker 6 (52:30):
Yeah, and then just to say like there's a full
basement too, like you can go down. So it's three
floors and I think the goal is when they move it,
they're just going to yeah, like the whole thing's coming,
like every single item in that store in the person's
will of the family, it was to move it so
like how we saw it is hopefully how other people
will see it too.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Do you, guys feel when you leave a location like
that that it's mission accomplished or do you feel merle
that there's more to give, that we just hit the
tip of the iceberg.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
I leave wanting always wanting to do more and tell
more story for people. That's that's my personal opinion on that.
But when we left, I felt that we got what
we needed for the location, for the family, and to
tell to tell the story, which is what we're what
we're there for. Could there be a part two to that?
One hundred percent? There's so many stories you could tell there,

(53:29):
and that's something that I would love to do when
it's moved, to see who moved with it, if all
the spirits get along from the one o eight and
the one fifty three, and to see if there's any
transients that like the new house in the new store
and want to hang their hat there. There's there's so
much how.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
About for you guys, Lehanni Krinn.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
Yeah, I mean I feel like we definitely got what
the owners wanted, which is always really important for us.
And it was cool because Rogers said, you know, I
wasn't a believer yesterday, but I'm a believer today. Like that,
you know, he was just blown away because he got
to talk to family, like multiple members of family he
got to speak with.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
So that's a big one. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (54:12):
I when the details corely, and you know, there's no
denying who the spirits are.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
That's really important.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
But like Merle said, there's so much more to be
told at that location. But I think for the owner's sake,
we did get a justice for now.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
All right, I'm gonna get you guys, so hold on
right there. Hard to believe. We're already through one hour
on spaced Out Radio, our number two more paranormal stories
with LeAnn and Krinn from Beyond the Haunting, and of
course our main man Merle for the paranormal road Trimmers.

Speaker 10 (54:47):
This is Spaced Out Radio with Hopes Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Mhm, Merle. The audience is going to be going hard
on you.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
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to Geist. She encountered to Merle Geist.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yeah, all right, we got about uh, we got about
five minutes here. If you got I'm gonna put you
guys all back in the green room. If you want
to take a quick break, be back here to a
couple of minutes. Okay, thanks, all right, So we're gonna
just put this up here for you guys and we'll
be right back. Ut all right, bring you guys back on.

(59:47):
There we go, and good show so far, Good show
so far.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
It's fun talking thos it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
It is fun.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Yeah, never never dull in the genre for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
All right, let's get some names up. What are we
name in merle the next half hour? We need to
know this, We need to know it's important news. Guys.

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I changed you guys. Leanna Karan.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
My name has one n if it matters?

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Is it? Two hours? One end, one of everything? Okay, well,
let's edit that.

Speaker 9 (01:00:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
She had to be different.

Speaker 7 (01:00:47):
Yeah, I think my mom. Yeah, he's probably watching my mom,
my mom. You know she's definitely watching the Texano.

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Right here on spaced Out Radio, Let's go to the
paranormal road Trippers, our main man, Merle, Leanne and Carinn
from Beyond the Haunting. And one of the things that's
very exciting for both of you and me as well.

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We are going to be all appearing at the first
annual Caribou Con in one hundred and eight Mile Ranch,
British Columbia. It's a celebration of the paranormal supernatural. And
this is the only paranormal conference in British Columbia or
I even think maybe even Western Canada. Right now, and

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it's September eighteenth through twentieth. People could go to Caribou
Con dot com. Let me spell that for you, cr
ib Oo Con caribou kN dot com and reserve VIP
tickets right now. And one of the cool things that
we're going to be doing at this event is not
only are your speakers going to be there, okay, but

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at night, if you want to go on a ghost
hunt of the historic one hundred and eight Mile Ranch
Heritage site where I set up Hunted one o eight
that I've been telling you about, you could go on
a tour with Merle. You can join Leanne and Carinne.
You could do that and go have some fun and
literally ghost hunt with these professional ghost hunters. It is

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that great. Caribou kN dot com is the website. Merle.
I know you're looking forward to it. You're going to
be a speaker. What are you going to be speaking about?

Speaker 9 (01:03:55):
Damn it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
And anyone asked that we're gonna. I'm gonna have a
really good session and and and lecture. It's uh, you'll
you'll know next month and I'll leave you hanging on that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Probably honestly, honestly, I'll probably be talking about the those
hunting FX and the basic basic investigative stuff. I don't know,
you'll know in April. I'm announce it. See all are excited,
but you better buy your tickets now, do it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
And Corinn and Lord Leanne, you guys are our co
keynote speakers. Grant Cameron, UFO Extraordinaire will be or UFO
Research or Extraordinaiy will be the keynote speaker on the
Saturday night. You guys will be the keynote speakers on
the Sunday night. I mean, how fun is that to
be able to speak and talk paranormal to a lot

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of interested and invested people.

Speaker 7 (01:04:53):
It's always fun to talk to people who are interested
in all of this and have a keen passion for it,
and you know, get people store and share and connect.
I think it's just you know, we were talking about it before.
It's we're all learning, right, We're all trying to figure
this out. And so the more we talk and the
more we share, I think that's really powerful to understand
what's actually happening and how we can help other people

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and how we can learn from others as well.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Yeah, and it's nice to be surrounded by people all
interested in the same things.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
Like I joke about my life like.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
Ten years ago in very corporate world and just being
made fun of endlessly for talking about this stuff. So
I feel like the stigmas are going away and people
are actually like coming around, and it's really cool to
see the momentum actually in the Caribou coming and we
know people that have bought tickets and they're coming from
like Colonna, Pentecton, like all over BC.

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
So it's really neat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Yes, I am. I am going to be speaking on
the Friday night because I have a busy weekend making
sure everything's organized the rest of the weekend, and I'm
going to be doing like a combination of the Sasqua
and UFOs and aliens and how they all kind of
tie together. And you know, there's one location which I

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haven't taken you ladies to and I'm hoping to take
you ladies out there to flight twenty one coming up
here this year. So please, please please, let's sit down
and get something on the calendar for that. That would
be wonderful, LeAnn. I mean, I know you're booked right
until about December twenty fourth, right now, so time too. Yeah,

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I'm going to force you to make time for me.
How about that. I'm going to force you to do it,
you know, because darn it, I'm fun out the field.
I have fun, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:06:41):
But no, I know you've been talking about it and
it is intriguing. I think actually getting Koreem there would
be fascinating as long as there's no snow.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
I am not a winter.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Person, I know. I know. The good news is the
snow is melting.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
That's true. There's three weeks in August. We'll get you. Yeah,
we'll go.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
About three weeks in August. That's literally about it, you know.
So but when you go to a new location, let's
say I bring you out to flight twenty one, okay,
which is going to happen, Karinn, what exactly do you
do you look for in that area? Because literally you're

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in the middle of nowhere, you have more than one
phenomena happening at once. As a psychic medium, how do
you balance all those different energies or is it going
to be mainly focused on literally the spirits that are there.

Speaker 7 (01:07:41):
It's always different, Like we've gone into places where I
was expecting it to be just spirits, and honestly, we've
picked up energies that I'm like, I don't think this
is a like potentially human. It could be something of
a different frequency. I don't know what that is. Like
there's just times I'm like, I'm not sure. So it's
always interesting. I've never been out there, so I have
no idea what to expect, but the stories that I

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have heard from Leanne out there are like that would
be for me fascinating to go and see what I
do get.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
So I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:08:07):
I think it would be interesting to see what I
pick up because I have no idea what to expect.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
At that site.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Has she told you much?

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
Oh, it's a playing card.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
I've kept some of the good stuff back, Dave, because
I really just want her to like, yes, experiences.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah that I'm not going to say anything else about that,
but sounds good. I'm very curious. I'm very curious to
see what you get on that, because it is how
can I put it? I've bragged about it so much

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and I still have troubles defining what it is like.
And Merle, how would you describe it?

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
A paranormal smargus board. You never know what's going to
happen up there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
You literally do not know what's gonna happen, whether you're
gonna be followed by bigfoot, whether you're gonna have other
things going on. I mean, we'll give you one little
story here, not giving you very much information, but that
one time in twenty twenty foot twenty twenty four when

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we were followed and paced by a sasquatch in the trees.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
And then we came back to our camp and there
was a seventeen inch track right wow, ten feet from
our tent.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Yeah. I don't know if I'd be camping.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Just saying yeah, we're never camping up there again again.
I would camp in the area, just not there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
No, I'd be rich.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
If Kream gets tracked by a bigfoot. I mean that'd
be bucketless for me. There'd be some good vision of
me potentially running fast.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
But yeah, I will say this, I think there was
only about two times three times I was up there,
probably twenty times last year. Wow, and there was only
maybe two times where we didn't find fresh tracks.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 9 (01:10:18):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:10:19):
Yeah, well that's exciting, Like, yeah, for sure, I'm totally interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
Go ahead and experience something.

Speaker 7 (01:10:23):
But yeah, I have no idea what to expect energetically
when I'm there, So that's always the interesting part, just
picking up and seeing what I actually do get.

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
Because anyone da've ever connected with the victims of Flight
twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
We stay right away from it, Okay, but there's a
reason for that. Okay, we allow this. So at Flight
twenty one, we allow the spirits to come down the trail.
If they want to talk to us, they're more than welcome.
And on one of the footages that we got that

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Tim still has on my flear actually see a blue
image of a ghost kind of walking and pacing behind
our lawn chairs. And but the reason why I don't
usually go for the paranormal side of it all is

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because a it's still an open investigation, okay, like it's
still Canada's largest unsolved mass murder. So it's it's because
of that that I don't go into the wreckage, like
we'll walk into the wreckage. We don't really film in
the wreckage at least what I have done there. I'm

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I know the cause is the like our first video
on our YouTube channel about this, which we've titled Secrets
of the Forest, if you go to episode one, you'll
actually see that that we do get some ghostly activity
outside of the plane crash site. So it's just trying

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to balance that we know the cause because we named
the video cause and effect. The cause is a crash site.
What we don't know is all of the strange effects
that have come through since that happened when we have
been investigating there, and Merle can attest the first time
we ever went out there, we actually got escorted out

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of the forest by sasquatch in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
Well that sounds very fascinating. I do need to see
the space.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
Yeah, like from Karen watching you at one fifty three,
just how you're locked in, like straight up locked in.
I'll tell you one little ghost story from like twenty
one that didn't happen at like it happened on the outskirts,
like right outside of it. This was last year, remember
the Sam Dave Sam's truck. Yes, so we had some

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weird stuff happened at the forest line, which I won't
get into because I like you'd experienced. But then when
we were Dave was carting us out one by one
because we had a bunch of gear up there in
his jeep, and Sam, our friend's truck was parked just
on the outside there's a big dip, and then her
truck was there, and I saw a spirit sitting of

(01:13:25):
a female sitting in Sam's truck staring at me like
a like a full bottle. And then and then I'm like, well,
I have to I have to sit in the truck
now and wait. So by the time I got out,
they weren't in the truck anymore. But then when I
was sitting in the truck, I heard something running all
around the truck and tapping on the truck, kind of

(01:13:47):
like gearing the crap out of me. I got on.
I got it on film. I'm pretty pretty excitable getting it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
You were rattled, dude, You were rattled after that happened,
because to lead up to that, we literally had a
scenario where it took us three trips to get our
gear up there. And what we believe was we were

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surrounded by sasquatch that night, and they were getting closer
and closer, and they were getting aggravated that we were there,
like pushing through the bush's stomping feet, all of this
kind of real intense. Okay, what are you guys doing here?
It's time for you to leave. And we literally packed

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up my jeep in one push. It was like the
best Tetris game we've ever played, just stalking everything back
in the jeep and getting the hell out of there.
And then I had to take Merle first up to
his vehicle, up to Samantha's vehicle, and that's where he

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saw the ghost and there was I guess you were
being surrounded. Did like it was like tapping on the
truck and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
Merle, mhmm it was. And like, honestly, I was sure
what was happening up there. There's just a big no feeling.
But I remember when we were all panicked and we
were getting ready to leave, I crossed my arms and
was like, I forgot my tripod up there. We need
to fetch it. Yeah, it was the way fetched the tripod.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Yeah, it was absolutely crazy, absolutely one of the craziest nights.
Thank god Tim Horton's was open at one o'clock in
the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
Timmy.

Speaker 7 (01:15:36):
But you know what that's it's to me, that's incredible.
So if you can have all those experienced, plus see
an apparition in the car and outside, like, like is
that area I'd be curious, like right off the get go,
what is the like, what is the dirt? What is
is there limestone is or quarts? Like what's in that
area to make it such a hotbed?

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:15:54):
So if that's happening in that area, like what is
going on in that area?

Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
That's very compelled.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
I can't wait to take you there. I cannot wait
to take you guys there. But enough about us. You
guys have been all around North America and even traveled
over to Europe for investigations for what you do for television.
What's the difference between investigating LeAnn in Canada compared to

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the United States compared to over in Scotland or Ireland
or or the United Kingdom.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
Me having to be the driver and drive on the
left side of the road. Thank you. That was a
good one.

Speaker 6 (01:16:35):
I took for the team. But it's amazing. We've seen
so much culture. We've been so fortunate, you know, we've
hit locations at really cool times, Like we were in
New Orleans for Marty Grock and we were in like
all these different spots when crazy cool cultural things are happening.
So like we have been very, very fortunate in what

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we've done. We were in Ireland, was it less this
past fall? Yeah, I'm losing track on my eight And
we were in Ireland and just seeing old castles, like
that's real history, you know, that's you know, twelve hundred.
We were at one of those old stone circles that
went back to the Druids, you know, and there's a

(01:17:18):
full moon that night it's shining on this site and
you have to kind of pinch yourself, going, wow, this
is like real places. We were able to investigate and
try to get these stories for castle owners, and you know,
people in every different walk of life, in different scenarios,
they all just want the stories.

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
I think.

Speaker 7 (01:17:37):
To add to that, it's been interesting for me to
see different cultures in different countries and how they approach
the paranormal. You know, in Canada for so many years
growing up and even like up until the last ten years,
you didn't talk about this. You couldn't get into places.
No one wanted association with anything paranormal, like no way.
You know, in the US, I found that it was

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a lot more open and certain areas and they were
more willing to talk about it, and there's a lot
more people who were curious and already investigating. But you
go to like Ireland or England or you know, even
up in Scotland, and there's like this whole culture around
you know, there's fairies and there's like legends, and there's ghosts,
and there's this, and there's banshees and all these things,
and you're like, wow, like this goes back so much

(01:18:20):
further than the legends. Are so much more entrenched in
their culture and society that you know, it's it's been
around for so long that you got to wonder, like
how long has this been going on? And you know,
is that still happening where we are? Just because you know,
we're a newer country doesn't mean we don't have the
same history of everything. So yeah, it's interesting thing to
see how the cultural perception of all of this also

(01:18:41):
influences beliefs and the hauntings themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
We're all is that your experience too?

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
Like in Canada and BC, certain locations are just like nope,
we don't do.

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
Paranormal you know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Yeah. I find Canada very not as much like you said,
any more, very conservative well with their letting me in
to check out ghosts, but the States very relaxed like
the United States that a lot of them are welcoming.
They treated more as a business. But yeah, no, like
like everyone has a ghost story, even up here. I

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don't want you to come here and see my stuff,
but I've heard this ghost story. They'll they'll tell you,
and I guess if and like I've investigated like London, England,
and it's the same over there. They they're open arms
with ghosts. But it's nice. Canada is finally coming around
to it, and I guess they see the benefits of

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telling the stories and keeping our history alive. Essentially.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
I think there's still that opinion in Canada with ghost hunting,
at least in British Columbia, because that's all I can
speak for of. You know, if we don't talk about it,
it doesn't exist. You know, what will people think?

Speaker 7 (01:19:52):
Yeah, you know, but at the same time, you go
back and look at indigenous cultures, like they all have
legends and stories about paranormal things that go back to
like you know, their first kind of like contacts and
settlements of the lands.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
So I don't know, I find it really fascinating that
it goes back, but we've.

Speaker 7 (01:20:08):
Kind of blocked it for a while, and now we're
kind of re connecting, if that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
Yeah, it's funny we're talking about that because like I've
been like in Manitoba, I've done places in Winnipeg and
they're a lot more welcoming than BC has been. And
I guess we're just catching up to it and it's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Finally, Yeah, three minutes ago before we have to go
to break to the bottom of the hour, we have Merle,
we have LeAnn and Carinn from Beyond the Haunting television show.
When you go into a location you know that say
has never been investigated, how do the ghost leanne react
to you guys being in there, Like the one fifty

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three mile that you just did, nobody had ever done
a paranormal investigation. There are the ghosts a little shocked
that you guys are there trying to communicate with them
and that you can hear them or maybe see a
shadow move or have interaction.

Speaker 6 (01:21:07):
Well, for this store, it was very quick they wanted
to talk. It's not always like that, but this one was,
Like Karan said, they were lighting up and we all,
like me and Kelly, experienced things differently and sense things too.
And like for myself, I was fixated on this picture
of this woman like Karrean's giving readings to family and
blowing people's minds, and I'm just staring at this like photo,

(01:21:31):
like what is going on with this photo? And then
Roger I think was Roger actually walked over and picked
up that photo and brought it to us and he's like,
this is you know little she died right where you're
standing and she was the shop owner that passed away.
And then they closed the door, and I was like, oh, okay,
that's why I'm like obsessed with this photo.

Speaker 5 (01:21:50):
So they reach out in different ways to all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
How about for you, Merle, do you notice the difference?

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
I do. It goes either way. It goes full speed
ahead when Karen's there or another location. Sometimes it's silence, nothing,
and I think it's it's sometimes spirits assessing you to
see what are you up to? What are you doing?
And my little thing I like to do with that

(01:22:18):
is bring in the property owner, the curator, whomever and
introduce us. And I find once you do things like that,
you're your communication with the other side picks up. That's
kind of another hack that I like to try.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Karin with about ninety seconds to go here, just your thoughts,
like when you as a psychic medium go in there
and these some of these spirits probably haven't talked to
people in decades. Are they kind of shocked when all
of a sudden you're like, hey, I can hear you
or I can see you talk to me.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:22:54):
One That's one of my big things. People ask me
like do I get scared. I'm like, I don't get scared.
I get anxious because I don't know how many are
going to be there. And so that to me is
the scariest part of an investigation is walking into a
building for the first time and trying to read the
room with the people that are there, but also the
spirits that want to come forward, because, like like we said,
the one fifty three, I wasn't expecting a lot to

(01:23:16):
be honest, and as soon as we walked in, it
was like you hit this wall of energy and it
was just like you could see him winding up. I
think at one point I was counting because I'm like,
oh my gosh, there's just landing. There's another layer, and
I'm like, what is going on? So yeah, to me,
that's one of the scariest parts because you don't know
what you're walking into and how many you're going to
be there, and how it's not aggressive, it's just energetic

(01:23:37):
because like land's excitement because they haven't been able to
communicate or share that message or tell that person something
that they needed to know or whatever it is they
might want to share. And that can be kind of
overwhelming for me. So that's when I need to kind
of just be like if you hear me, ever, just
like you said, dialed in or locked in, I'm like, okay,
give me a second, and I'm looking and I'm processing.

(01:23:59):
I'm like okay, and I'm not really looking at anyone
in particular. I'm just trying to figure out who's who
so that we know for the investigation. So that's for sure,
that's a lot of overwhelming anxiety for me. But it's
excitement and they're excited, and I'm happy to share those messages.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Do you find that they're pretty open like we needed
twenty second answer?

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
Yes, I think they are very open.

Speaker 7 (01:24:21):
I think the information that comes through is very dependent
on who is with us, and I think that the
messages are very direct and what they need to hear
in that moment.

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
Well, and they're seeing their family getting closure in real time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Yeah, beautiful, We have Merle. We have Leanne and Korinn
for another half hour on spaced out Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 10 (01:24:52):
Your listening is spaced out with your host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
All right, we are clear, and next half hour we'll
get in some audience questions. Let them have some fun too.

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
All right, guys, another half an hour. We need you
to choose Merle's final name for the night.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
Make it a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Final name.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
Who's Milton Merle? What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Comedian Milton Burle?

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Oh okay, yeah, mm hmmm. I think Also the last
half hour, we should like to talk about a few
of the spooky stories from one fifty three that correlated
with like the research I did and it just hit
every every check mark, which is I.

Speaker 5 (01:25:59):
Have one of stories. I know Dave's gonna like for
a specific reason. Okay, it has a relation to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Him, a relation to me.

Speaker 5 (01:26:09):
And something he likes that I'm now putting together.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Okay, well we'll get to that. Yes, yes, yea, Dave
wants to do that. This is so cool. There it is.
I see the name. I see the name, the parav one.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
No, I think he'll be that one.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
The winner is this one.

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
Is pretty good? Oh? That's good.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Yeah, there's the winner. Merman Marsh Murlow is strong. Though.

Speaker 4 (01:26:51):
That was strong.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Marsh Murlow is strong. Merle versus the Bureau of Uncooperative Spirits.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
I like Bob Marley. That was a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Bob Mrley is a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:27:05):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
If you're a bass guitarist, you could be Duff Merle Kagan.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
If you're a drummer, you could be Merle Collins.

Speaker 5 (01:27:21):
Okay you Oh jeez, mm hmmm. I see the sticker
collection happening.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
Mm hmm. I think Mike's a swear word in these parts,
isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Damn swear word. I don't even know who Mike is anymore,
I really don't. Somebody calls a Mike, the hell are
you talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:27:50):
Is weird for me?

Speaker 6 (01:27:51):
When you watch the YouTube thing, Dave, you'll just have
to drink every time you say Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
Yeah's Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
There's a reason why there's a reason why we call
him Merle because A it's his middle name, but B
how many mics do you know? There's a lot of
mics out there? Okay, and for him to stand out
in the paranormal we figured, you know what, there's no
there's no Merles out there. It makes him stand out,

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makes him stand out, school initials, m m m. The
sound of Merlin's good song?

Speaker 7 (01:28:36):
Yeah, yeah, to me, it's a Mike, Jeff and Katie.
That's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:28:44):
Who's this?

Speaker 8 (01:28:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Oh the oh here's a good one from from Merle's
girl Spice. Merles very strong.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
After the chat.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Yep, he'll billy her dark side of the Merle I will.

Speaker 5 (01:29:07):
Say, Katie was also awesome to have with us.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Katie's phenomenal KD is phenomenal. How was Andy?

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Andy just fucked around and at Andy things?

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Nine inch Merles Merlin.

Speaker 6 (01:29:32):
I'm so distracted by these comments, I can't even focus on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
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we go with the second half of Spaced Out Radio.
This show is flying on by tonight. My name is
Dave Scott from the Paranormal road Trippers. We have our
main man Merle, and of course the great ladies from
beyond the Haunting, Leanne and Corinn are here as well,
and recently they just got off a paranormal weekend at
a place called one hundred and fifty three mile ranch Store. Yeah,

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a little little hamlet called one fifty three mile, So
that would mean I live in hundred miles fifty three
miles north of where I live, and we're going to
talk about it now. Leahne, you made a mention that
there was kind of a weird story that involves something
that I like. I got to hear it right off
the bat. I gotta hear it, okay, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
So when we were on the main floor, I noticed
a lot of skates, and then when we went up
to the top floor, I'm fixating on the hockey skates
and they look old, right, like there's old.

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
Really vintage ones.

Speaker 6 (01:31:27):
And I just said to the owner, is there a
connection to hockey or skating? And he proceeded to tell
us about his brother, Rusty, who used to play for
the Edmonton Oilers. And he was like, which, I know
you love the Oilers, right, I.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Love my Oilers?

Speaker 5 (01:31:45):
Okay yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
And it was like pre NHL, like it was so
long ago, but he was, you know, he was very
involved in the hockey world and he actually started to
come through.

Speaker 5 (01:31:55):
I think there were.

Speaker 6 (01:31:56):
Messages and it was this whole cool connection from this
small town in one fifty three mile to like the
NHL as a part of this family.

Speaker 7 (01:32:06):
I'm looking at us on the obolis when we were communicating,
it said rust yeah, and then we found skates that
actually had the family name in it, so they were his.

Speaker 6 (01:32:15):
So that's like a really cool artifact for what it actually,
you know, comes to being, is like, these are the
skates of one of the first pre NHLers.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Yeah, well, let me tell you about Rusty Patent Node
played for the Edmonton Oilers.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
That's him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Jim played for the Edmonton Oilers during their pre NHL
era during the World Hockey Association, played from nineteen seventy
two to nineteen seventy seven, with the franchise starting as
the Alberta Oilers renamed as the Edmonton Oilers. He was
a high scoring winger, with a career high forty two
goals and seventy two points in the seventy five seventy

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six season. He was considered a fine WHA player who
played on a line with teammates Norm Ullman and Ken Baird.
Often remembered by fans for his early w h L
shootings or w h A shooting style, His nickname was
old Puckhead.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
Do you just know this?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Yeah, no, I looked it up. I was curious.

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
Look, wow, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 6 (01:33:19):
Like that's when we were talking to and it's just
like such a cool story.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
I'm just thrilled that you remember how much I love
the oilers.

Speaker 8 (01:33:27):
Leyan.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
That's that's actually really cool too, so thank you for
sharing them.

Speaker 6 (01:33:33):
You're welcome by Yeah, that was just one of the things, right,
and it's just the skates, you know, how cool is that?

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
Like that's coming to now if the if we're able
to get that house to the one o eight, I
would totally be friends with Rusty, him and I Him
and I would totally get along. You know, I'm gonna
walk in there with my Oiler's jersey on.

Speaker 5 (01:33:57):
You'll get some interactions.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
I'm sure I gets garantee I would. I totally guarantee
I would.

Speaker 5 (01:34:03):
All the Canadians talking about hockey.

Speaker 1 (01:34:04):
Ghosts, right, hockeys. That's awesome. That is awesome. You know
one location that you guys need to try and do
is the Montreal Forum speaking of hockey because a number
of years ago, Like if we go through hockey history,
the Americans are going to laugh because they're on a
roll right now with winning in the Olympics and then

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the Paralympics. But since since Gary Bettman took over the
NHL in nineteen ninety three, and any Canadian team has
not won the Stanley Cup, and the last team to
do it was the Montreal Canadians in their final year
at the Montreal Forum, and a number of years ago
a paranormal team based out of Quebec in Montreal actually

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tried to have a seance to move the spirits of
the former Habs players into the Bell Center where they
play now, and some believe it didn't work, that the
spirits are still upset that the Montreal Forum is still
their home and that they since they moved, they'll never

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win a Stanley Cup. And some people believe it's caused
a curse on Canadian hockey teams.

Speaker 5 (01:35:17):
That's a curse I would love to be a part of.

Speaker 7 (01:35:19):
Breaking Yes, ninety four are still stuck in my memory.

Speaker 9 (01:35:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
Yeah, there's some that's a cool story. Yeah, No, that'd
be a good one for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Now, Merle, you were saying that there was a little
bit of a scary moment at the house when you
were investigating there.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
There were a handful of scary moments. I did a
deep dive on if there's been any paranormal interactions, any
ghost stories. Obviously, I want to know a little bit
before we get to the location. And when we were
having a little meeting before we investigated, kind of like
I get to know session. I had my little book

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out and I had written down all of the interactions
and then we chose not to talk about them. But
the night we so we did the walk through night one,
and I believe it was night one where so there
there was somebody passed away. Her name was Lil She
was one of the She was a shop owner there

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and she died of a heart attack behind the counter.
And one of the ghost stories is when you're behind
the counter, you kind of feel like someone gets right
in your face and in your space, not aggressively or mean,
but more or less probably why behind my counter? And
that happened to I think it was Juliann, right but

(01:36:45):
that you were yeah, and she.

Speaker 6 (01:36:50):
Said go walk behind the counter, and I went and
I just I don't know what I said. I'd have
to look back, but I think I just thought I
have to leave this space, like this is somebody's space here.

Speaker 7 (01:37:00):
I think at one point all three of us were
back there. We all felt like someone was behind us
at one point and we're like we got to get
out of here, like we shouldn't be here. Yeah, had
heart attack.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Yeah, and I know when we were filming, I know
Katie was taking photos and stuff and she said she
heard knocks there as well. Interesting and another one of
the ghost stories this is this is where the activity.
This was our first encounter. Was some activity there really
on our investigation. Was we kind of just started. You'd
put your music box. The music box they put on

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the ground is an IR sensor, so if there's any
shadow figure, any person, any motion, it goes off. And
it was in a corner where nobody was and it
started to go off. It wouldn't stop. And then Karn,
I think you said that there's some Clearly there's somebody
back there because of the noise. But was it you

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someone saw a shadow figure, full dark shadow.

Speaker 5 (01:37:58):
Yeah, that was me.

Speaker 7 (01:37:59):
It really popped out right beside the music box, and
then I could see it kind of moving behind the
rest of the shelving. I had a feeling it was
one of the brothers that had passed away, a younger brother.

Speaker 5 (01:38:11):
But yeah, it was clear as day.

Speaker 7 (01:38:13):
I went running after it, and now the music box
stopped when I got back there.

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
And then it was gone.

Speaker 6 (01:38:17):
And I think Kelly heard a voice at the same
time or something something happened.

Speaker 4 (01:38:21):
We heard a handful of audible I did audible voices
while we were investigating, and it wasn't ours because I
think there's a male, a couple of male voices. And
another time was when we were up the stairs, what
all the hockey skates were, Karen saw like a mist

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go across the counter or behind the counter.

Speaker 9 (01:38:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:38:47):
As I was sitting on the floor terrified from my
adventure up those stairs, I was.

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
Like trying to in my head. I was trying to
figure how I was going to get back down.

Speaker 7 (01:38:55):
And as I'm watching these stairs, like oh my god,
I gotta leave, I look up and there's like this
like white mist just walking behind the counter. And then
it would just fade away, and I was like, did
I just see that? And I remember I grabed Kelly.
I'm like, something's moving down there. And then you guys
are like, what's happening. I'm like, there's a movement, and
I'm going I felt like, yeah, there was like.

Speaker 6 (01:39:13):
A pacing, like you know where the cashier register was
and you go in there and to the back like
that whole area.

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
I just felt like there was something.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Yeah, when you are having those experiences with you know,
something that close, a shadow standing behind you or around you,
or the voices that are coming out of nowhere are
you hearing Are you seeing and hearing those audibly and
visually or obviously the shadow person you are. But with

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the voices, are you hearing them audibly or is this
on tape audibly?

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
This time was audibly. I think they're correct me if
I'm wrong. There are three or four times where we
heard crystal clear voices.

Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
Yeah, and even Jeff too, And I don't know if
you like was marking it on the camera somehow, but
like he was taking note of the times.

Speaker 5 (01:40:02):
I think he heard it because it was just it was.
It was might have even been more than that.

Speaker 7 (01:40:06):
It was quite surprising how many times we heard those voices,
like in the room with.

Speaker 5 (01:40:11):
Us, it was that was incredible. And the light you had,
the light that was responding to us as well.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Oh the spirit candle. So for a yeah, for our audience,
it's a it looks like a candle and it's a
light where a ghost can mimic the EMF to turn
it off. And I'm kind of like a yes, no
device And when Roger came back when we were talking.
Was that Larry his brother we were talking to, and

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we said, if Larry's here, can you blow the candle
for Roger? And boom it went off. That's what it was,
I believe, And it was a The place was extremely active, Dave,
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
Speaking of active, our audience is pretty active tonight. Let's
get to some audience questions here. Going back to the
one fifty three mile store, t Bow wants to know,
you know that the medicine bottles were still, you know, unopen.
What kind of medicine were they using back then.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Pepto bisbol from nineteen sixty.

Speaker 6 (01:41:13):
Eight, Special elixirs, Yeah, Elixis, they had those old vix sticks.
There's so much I mean, it's so cool the packaging
on that stuff, with the old bottles and all the
different names.

Speaker 7 (01:41:25):
I remember I was sitting kind of by the music
pos at one point and I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
Like, oh, look a ceda mitafin. Like there's just so.

Speaker 6 (01:41:31):
Much rep down in the middle of an investigation where
it's like a Seeda minifin.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
There was like pre nineteen sixty three Hinds fifty seven
barbecue sauce in the basement with like the corporid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:41:47):
There was a lot of random bottles and medicines and
I think there's like a fig elixir.

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
It was some interesting stuff. The old dog trees. Yeah,
there was lots of pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
You know, I know our radio audience won't be able
to see this. I'm just gonna change topics for a
quick second. You guys investigated the barn at the at
the one to eight Heritage site. I still have the
bottle you guys gave from when you guys gave the

(01:42:20):
the Uh, how can we put it? Yeah, I'm glad
you took ill. Well, you guys gave it to me,
so that's why I took it. But yeah, it's still
sitting here in studio.

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
That's so hilarious. That's a piece of history. One day.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
Yeah, maybe maybe let's go to another question. Let's go
to canvas here. Let me ask, do you tell the
spirit world you have certain hours they can bug you,
aka communicate with you. Courn That's definitely something to think
about with hitchhikers being real.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
Yeah, you know, it's funny. It's a great question.

Speaker 7 (01:42:58):
I think for myself, it's it can be overwhelming and
it can be twenty four seven. But I think I've
grown up and most of my life I've been able
to just turn it off and shut it down and
not focus on it.

Speaker 5 (01:43:10):
So I have no problem shutting it down.

Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
Usually it's very rare, like if I'm in my house
at home, it's a no go zone, like do not
bother me. I have my you know, my boundaries up.
It's my own space. I don't want you here. But
there are times that there are things that are just
until I acknowledge it, it doesn't leave me alone. Like
you know, there's been times where there's been a spirit
that I really wanted to connect with someone I didn't

(01:43:34):
know who it was, and they just it was constant.
So I eventually had to acknowledge it. And it turns
out like it's a neighbor's to see slub one or
someone I know at work or something like that. So
most of the time I can turn it off, but
it's yeah, it's definitely exhausting. It can be overwhelming, and
I know that it drains your energy. So you have
to be grounded. You have to have your own boundaries up,

(01:43:55):
because yeah, it can happen most of the time, like
it just happens when it happens. But you know, I'm
pretty good tuning in if I have to. If that
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
All right, let's get to another audience question. Heare Kelly
or Leanne. Have you seen the commercial destination Haunted where
Dave says this is not a happy place.

Speaker 6 (01:44:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's talking about Haunted gold Rush, right. Daves
is like one of the stars of that documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Oh you guys totally were the stars. I just showed up.

Speaker 5 (01:44:25):
Yeah, no, I have seen it. I love it. I
love that they included you in that.

Speaker 6 (01:44:30):
That was a really special thing because that was our
first you know, we were on the road for seven
or eight days straight, investigating every single night, not sleeping,
investigating again, not sleeping, and just going from like place
to place on the gold Rush trail.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
So that will always be one of my favorite things
we did.

Speaker 7 (01:44:49):
And then coming to the barn when we're exhausted, you're like,
this is not a happy place.

Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
Like, oh good, really, rights go in right now the barn.

Speaker 1 (01:44:58):
The barn is so hit. Yes, it could be the hat.
You know, the upstairs and the downstairs are completely different
energy floors. You know, it's so weird. T Bone is
asking any of you three Merle will start with you
on this one. Have you ever had attachment problems?

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
A few times? Yes, I have. I felt that that
H word that we talked about earlier was one, but
I don't feel it is or was that one from
the ranch a handful of years ago, but that was
since removed. I think it can happen. I think when

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we are in paranormal investigating, there's no color id in
what we do. At the end of the day, we
can be talking to someone or something and maybe they
want to come home with us or follow us and whatnot.
But you have to be very mindful when you do it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
And how about for you, Leanne, how does it work
for you with attachments?

Speaker 6 (01:46:01):
I've only ever had one. And the weird thing is,
I didn't even know it was other people telling me
I stand out, yeah, And it was actually I think
it was because I was so exhausted at the end
of gold Rush and I had to race home and
do a bunch of stuff. And when I hit my
general store, the person working there said you look different,
and I was like, okay, thanks, And then I went

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home and somebody else said you look different.

Speaker 5 (01:46:26):
And then that night I'll throw my husband under the bus.

Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
He had some crazy night terrors and then asked me
like what did you bring home, which is so out
of character for him.

Speaker 5 (01:46:36):
So it was like the one time and then I
dealt with it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:39):
But I think it's just because I was so tired
and I didn't say please stay here, like I didn't
set any boundaries after that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Wait until the aliens starts showing up. They don't care.
Now that you're getting into the UFO world with Chris Rakowski, Leanne, yeah,
it's going to be a little bit more.

Speaker 5 (01:46:58):
Yeah. No, I'm excited for that for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:47:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:47:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:47:01):
For me, it's been strange because I don't know. Like
for me, I've never not had spirit energy around me
since I was like three years old, So I don't
know if they're attached or they're just hanging out or
they're just here. So I've never had anything negative knock
on something. But yeah, usually I'm pretty good at once
I say a message that they're gone, like once I

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connect and acknowledge them and say what I have to,
they leave. But I don't know if that's an attachment.
I'm I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
Luckily, I got to ask you too, because your sisters. Okay, Leanne,
you don't have the same connection as karindaes to the
spirit world or you just.

Speaker 9 (01:47:40):
Don't, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:47:41):
No, she is very unique in what she does.

Speaker 6 (01:47:43):
I have a lot of it's like the knowing and intuition,
which is, you know, like I'm drawn to certain things
and it's somehow is tied to the story of what
we're talking about. I also have really crazy predictive dreams,
which don't come across in the show because it has
nothing to do with you know, what we're talking about.
But we're definitely like we both have stuff, but it's different,
which compliments each other in a way too.

Speaker 7 (01:48:06):
Yeah, and even Kelly, she has a unique skill set too.
And the combination of the three of us I think
really works because between the three of us we somehow
figure things out.

Speaker 6 (01:48:16):
It's incredible. Yeah, it's like you bring all your tools
to the table. I mean there's a lot of focus
on cream because it's incredible. But like we do try
to like break off too, So Kelly and I will
go and like sense out a room and it's like
putting a puzzle piece together.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Yeah, that's really cool. That is really cool. We got
about five minutes to go before we have to say
good night to this crew and get ready for hour three.
Our main man paranormal Wise Merle is here from Ghost
to the Great White North and the Paranormal road Trippers
our special guest night, Leanne and Corinne from Beyond the Haunting. Now,

(01:48:50):
what's up next for you?

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
Merle, Let's start with you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
I have I have a power River, I have an
investigat two investigations in Powell River. I'm doing a good
investigating film at a nineteen eleven theater, and then I'm
doing my weekend event one Bedroom Left at the Old
Courthouse in It's a whole weekend of investigating food and

(01:49:17):
staying at a really haunted in So that's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
And Leanne and Krane, where's the paranormal taking you next?

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
Excellent question. We're like literally working on that right now.

Speaker 6 (01:49:33):
And our dream is another road trip style thing like
gold Rush. So we were putting together some of my
tuneraries of what that could be and how we would
get that out there. But we're also like, the three
of us are very spread out in the province, so
BC's very big. You know, Kelly's eight hours worth of crane,
So like we're trying to figure out schedules and.

Speaker 5 (01:49:53):
What's going on. But there's definitely momentum here.

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
Is there a part two gold Rush coming up?

Speaker 6 (01:50:00):
No, just the one fifty three store is like our
Golddush thing, but a road trip style adventure with the
three of us, I mean, sisters and best friends. It's
quite funny, like when we're on the road together and
then incorporating all the paranormal stuff, so we're excited.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
You need a bus, You need one of those. That's
what you need. You need a bus where you guys are,
you know, have it painted up with your faces all
over it?

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
Or the opposite of that, yeah, oh yeah yeah, or
just put a picture of Merle up there.

Speaker 6 (01:50:33):
I wanted to like reach out to Cruise Canada to
sponsor us or something.

Speaker 7 (01:50:38):
Well, you know, and right now, I know people keep asking,
you know, what's next, and we are working on things
and story We can't share more right now, but you know,
our our episodes of Faces Most Haunted and which is
now Rebread Destination Haunted are still airing on ten on APTN.

Speaker 6 (01:50:51):
I'm pretty sure they're on YouTube, actually on Haunt TV's
YouTube page. Most of our episodes are there now.

Speaker 5 (01:50:58):
Yeah, and they're airing you like Australia, the UK, you know,
the US. It's all over.

Speaker 7 (01:51:04):
So I know our stuff is still out there, and
I know people are asking for more. So patients thank you,
and we're hoping we're working on stuff, so fingers crossed.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
It is a competitive market out there. But you ladies
have done such a great job in getting yourselves out
there and being part of a great community of paranormal
and I cannot wait to have you guys speak at
Caribou Con. I really can't. And the fact that you
guys you know, are going to do that hometown here

(01:51:33):
Leanne for you and and be a part of that.
I'm so excited about it. I really am.

Speaker 5 (01:51:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:51:40):
No, it's definitely I love where all of this is
going in BC and the Cariboo.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
So yeah, we've got to keep it going. And it's
so hard to believe that there is no paranormal conferences
in Canada.

Speaker 6 (01:51:52):
Yeah, well there's like thunder Bay and I think Halifax
are those the only two?

Speaker 5 (01:51:57):
Yeah, the Lake Superior Para con on the Halifax.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
There was just a there was just a Sasquatch or
there's a coming Sasquatch conference in Ottawa of all places. Wow,
there is the UFO conference in shag Harbor, Nova, Scotia,
and then a couple of paranormal conferences in Ottawa. But
I don't believe there's any paranormal conferences east of Ontario

(01:52:24):
or west of Ontario. It's crazy crazy. I could be
wrong here. I could be wrong on that. I really
don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:52:32):
But there might be an alien one in Alberta this July.
I think Chris told me about something, but we'd have
to ask him.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
I'll have to, I have to get him on Yeah,
I think there is one coming up in Alberta. But
it's just it's it's such a rare feat. It is
such a rare feat to to have people talking about this.
But you know what, at least we got some good
people like you, guys Merle, well maybe maybe Merle and
and myself hopefully you know, putting this together to make

(01:53:03):
it an annual tourism event and a great event. It
is because the weather in the Caribou is usually beautiful
in September with no rain, maybe snow, but no rain,
you know, So Merle, quick shout out, where can people
find your work.

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
The Instagram, The Paranormal road Trippers, YouTube, the Panormal road
Trippers and Ghostly Activities, and Facebook, the Panormal road Trippers
and the Paranormal road Trippers dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
I love it. And Leanna Karim, where can people find
your work? Again? I know you mentioned the TV partion,
but online where can we find you?

Speaker 6 (01:53:40):
We're mainly on Instagram and Facebook at Beyond the Haunting
and then Beyond the Haunting dot ca has all of
our stuff. I just put some of the episodes on
there as well, so all of gold Rush is actually.

Speaker 5 (01:53:49):
On our website.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
Wonderful, wonderful. Now people can see my ugly mug on there.
I appreciate that. Thank you, Thank you. We're going to
say good night to Merle Leanne and Korinn. What a
great paranormal show. And that leads us going into the
third hour of Spaced Out Radio, where we're going to
get into a little bit of Bigfoot, We're going to
get into some UFOs and filling in for Terry Hall

(01:54:15):
on the Weird News of the Week will be Grant
Baker coming on up. Our three of the Big Show
is next. Stay tuned, everybody you're listening to spaced Out
Radio with your host Dave Scott. All right, we are clear.

(01:54:47):
Great job everyone, great job.

Speaker 4 (01:54:49):
Coming on guys.

Speaker 5 (01:54:51):
Thank you for having fun.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
You know you guys. I was really hoping that you
two at a Cavid studio tonight. I told Merl told Merle,
so tell me come in studio.

Speaker 5 (01:55:03):
Yeah, this worked out too.

Speaker 6 (01:55:05):
I mean it's nice you have all your big background
there and stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:55:08):
Not us. Yeah, not Leanne sitting right behind your shoulder.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
Well that was fun though. That was fun.

Speaker 5 (01:55:15):
It was And thank you everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:55:17):
I see some comments. You're most welcome and thank you
guys for joining us.

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
Yeah, that was fun.

Speaker 6 (01:55:23):
You guys have spaced out radio is like part of
our original what we yeah, like it's history.

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
Right, we're doing it together, doing it together. Merle, thank you, buddy,
Thank you. Have a good night, everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:55:37):
All right, take care, bye bye.

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All right, we'll be right back. Everybody, put this up,
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Speaker 8 (01:56:04):
Until right, let's get rid of that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Bring little Grantee Baker there he is filling in. How
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Speaker 9 (02:00:03):
How you doing?

Speaker 4 (02:00:03):
Brother?

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I'm good.

Speaker 9 (02:00:08):
I had to pause my show. Darn it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
Well, your swamp Dweller will be about two and a
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Speaker 9 (02:00:17):
Oh right, that's a small swamp brother.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
I got a couple of weird stories here for us too.

Speaker 9 (02:00:29):
Oh good, well, I'm so interesting.

Speaker 11 (02:00:39):
I'm watching a guy break down a old air cold
VW engine, so I could.

Speaker 9 (02:00:44):
I've never broke one down before. That way I can
teach myself how to work on one.

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Speaker 12 (02:02:32):
Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radio's Swamp.

Speaker 13 (02:02:36):
I'm swamp dweller, and tonight I'm going to take you
on a mystic journey of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends,
and nightmares.

Speaker 12 (02:02:45):
Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp.

Speaker 13 (02:02:49):
I've always had a very deep respect for Native spirituality,
and in all my learning about different traditions and important figures,
I never thought I could ever meet a piece of it.
I did not even think it was a possibility that
these animals were shape shifters of any sort until I
recently was telling my brother about it. And he told
me that it might be true. I grew up in

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the central mountains of Idaho, in between several big mining
towns from the late eighteen hundreds, living here most of
my life, I know what the wildlife looks like, and
I know what I would see in each time of year,
except for a few encounters that I still cannot explain.

Speaker 12 (02:03:26):
I was out early with my dad and grandpa to
go and find scrap piles of wood.

Speaker 13 (02:03:31):
It was sometime around seven or eight in the morning,
and we are on a tiny dirt path miles away
from any houses. As we are driving, we turn a
corner to see an animal sitting in the middle of
the road. I would say that it was about the
size of a large dog, but hunched close to the
ground and completely black. It had a long tail that
dragged on the ground, and when we pulled up to it,

(02:03:53):
it turned to look at us. It had a small
head with either small ears or no ears at all.
I could not really make out anything specific. After it
saw us, it hopped off the trail and into the
bushes on the side of the road. Believe me when
I tell you this, I have never in my entire
life seen an animal that looked like this. We were
all visibly confused. One other time, I was out riding

(02:04:17):
my atv at around sunset. I was by myself on
some trails that I knew well. I decided to explore
a bit and took a different path, and suddenly it
started to go up a steep hill with lots of washouts.

Speaker 12 (02:04:29):
As I stopped to try.

Speaker 13 (02:04:30):
And turn around, the scariest looking bird I have ever
seen ran in front of me across the trail. Now,
there are a lot of wild chickens, turkeys, etc. But
this was about the size of a chicken. But it
almost appears as if its body was backward, or if
it was standing straight up. It looked very skinny, just
not like a bird at all. I could not see

(02:04:50):
any visible wings, but it had a longer neck and
its head was bare, like a turkey's or a vultures might.
I finished turning around and sped back home. I do
not know terribly much about the tribes that would have
inhabited this area before the gold Rush, but I do
know that a lot of violence and death happens because
of it. With the historical cemetery having over one hundred
unmarked graves, if anyone might be able to confirm or

(02:05:14):
deny my theory.

Speaker 9 (02:05:15):
I would really appreciate it.

Speaker 13 (02:05:17):
I don't know if it was a skim walker that
I saw, but it seems very close in the shape
shifting ways.

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
Thank you swamp Dweller for another creepy story. If you
want more just like that, head on over to YouTube.
Type in swamp Dweller hit subscribe. Ring that bell as
Swamp Dweller kicks off the third hour of this show
each and every night. We appreciate him for that as well.
Typer Grant Baker, the.

Speaker 9 (02:05:43):
Star's Night.

Speaker 1 (02:05:47):
Scy Gras Store breaking Through.

Speaker 5 (02:05:54):
Comes into view.

Speaker 8 (02:06:14):
And we got.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
Becomes all all right, Grant Baker, It's always good to
have you here. Thank you filling in for Terry tonight.
We really appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (02:06:35):
My pleasure, my man is good seeing against so soon.

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
Absolutely absolutely, I always look forward to when you're on
the show. Now, we got a little bit of an
update because you know, the Bigfoot world has been going
absolutely crazy since this documentary called Catching Bigfoot has come
out at the south By Southwest Documentary and TV Festival
down in Texas, and of course the big news coming

(02:07:00):
out of the that is the Patterson Gimlin film from
nineteen sixty seven, where the creator of this documentary believes
he has new sixteen millimeter footage, the same footage camera
film that they rolled on the Patterson Gimlin film in
Bluff Creek, California, saying that this really really makes it

(02:07:26):
wonder if whether or not the Patterson Gimlin film was
a hoax and a costume created by somebody else. And
they even got the person who allegedly played the Sasquatch
in the film coming out and saying, yeah, yeah, it
was me. I was a guy and all that. So
it's a little bit interesting, and yet the Bigfoot world

(02:07:50):
has been rocked by it. What's your thoughts? First and foremost?

Speaker 9 (02:07:54):
Oh goodness, this is a I want to see it first.
I want to see the real that new sixteen millimeters
or whatever it is film that he has.

Speaker 11 (02:08:04):
Evidently it is supposed to be over half a minute long,
you know, forty some seconds or somewhat, and I would
really be interested in seeing that. The gentleman, I'm a
diehard believer. I've seen Bigfoot myself personally, and what I
saw and what I saw in that film is a
little bit different.

Speaker 9 (02:08:23):
But at the same time, you know, it's just like
all of us, we all look a little bit different
as well.

Speaker 11 (02:08:28):
And you would have to do some major convincing on
my part, you know, towards me for me to really
believe that, Okay, maybe you didn't make this.

Speaker 9 (02:08:38):
And I think the smoking gun would be where's the suit?
Can you recreate it?

Speaker 11 (02:08:43):
Because if you can recreate it and actually have the
exact same suit and show how you did the walk
and everything, because the walk is one of the strangest
things ever. We do not walk like that, and it's
very difficult for us to mimic a walk that is,
for lack of a better term, ape like. And then
that new AI source which came out when all of

(02:09:05):
this started becoming part of the buzz as we had
AI look at the film and say, no, this is
something that's real.

Speaker 9 (02:09:13):
So it's I'm kind of on the fence at the
moment with it.

Speaker 11 (02:09:15):
I'd like to see it, you know, take take away
everything that I want to take away from it. And
maybe there's truth, maybe there's not, but my heart says
I believe the film.

Speaker 1 (02:09:28):
Matt Moneymaker, who is the head of the BFRO, the
Bigfoot Research Organization, he came out with a tweet about
this on X and you know, I don't agree a
lot with the Bigfoot research organization. You know, I've actually

(02:09:48):
talked very very openly about that, but I thought he
had an incredible take on this film. Okay, And I'm
going to read this to He says it was known
at the time and since that time in the late
nineteen sixties that Roger Patterson was trying to make a

(02:10:09):
documentary about the Bigfoot Sasquatch mystery. When he and Bob
Gimlin obtained their famous footage in nineteen sixty seven, they
were from Washington State. The famous sixty seven Patterson footage
was shot in northern California. Most of the other stock
footage was shot in Washington State. As with every other

(02:10:32):
documentary and TV show about the Bigfoot subject, Rogers wanted
to dramatize some Bigfoot encounters using a man in a
cheap costume. His wife, Patricia recalls the use of a
cheap costume for this purpose. The long lost reel that
is being touted by these sleazy producers at south By

(02:10:55):
Southwest is just footage of them using this costume, which
big Foot researchers have known about for years. What this
real shows is obviously a cheap ape costume, nothing like
the actual creature they got on camera in California. Because
of that stark difference, these sleazy producers are trying to

(02:11:17):
spin this cheap costume for dramatizations as a trial run
for the eventual nineteen sixty seven costume. The simple fact
that no one has ever been able to duplicate the
costume from the sixty seven footage, with all of its
anatomical peculiarities and massive size, has shown sensible people for

(02:11:39):
more than fifty years that this is not a costume.
There have been several well funded and well staffed attempts
to simulate what you see in the footage. All of
those efforts failed quite clearly. National Geographic at one time
touted this bogus hieronimous costume story. He claims that he

(02:12:01):
was the man in the costume, then years later aired
an episode where the footage was examined with the most
modern techniques and computer enhancement and measurement by analysis. Pardon
me that subsequent nat geoprogram revealed a foot anatomy on
the Patterson creature that is plainly impossible to fake with

(02:12:24):
a man in a costume. This latest film festival entry
called Capturing Bigfoot, is just one more ploy in a
long parade of sleazy, deceptive production since the nineteen nineties
that have repeated and repackaged long debunk claims because the
ploy will still get some cultural traction. Writing on the

(02:12:44):
enduring popularity of the Bigfoot mystery, it is just a
cinematic form of clickbait. What's your thoughts on that grant?

Speaker 9 (02:12:54):
I could not agree with that more. I could not
agree with that more. And the fact that they fought
on that northern California, that's.

Speaker 11 (02:13:02):
You know, I used to live there. In fact, I
live very close to there now and that is a
spot that I know for a fact is active with Bigfoot.

Speaker 9 (02:13:11):
Same with up where you live.

Speaker 11 (02:13:12):
I mean, the Pacific Northwest is loaded with him. And
now he's absolutely one hundred percent correct. There have been people,
I even think, and don't quote me on this, but
I want to say there was a show I almost
want to say it was MythBusters.

Speaker 9 (02:13:27):
But I'd have to look that up that tried this,
that tried to do the walk, tried to do the suit.

Speaker 11 (02:13:33):
And you can one hundred percent tell that it was
a suit, and the Gimlin film you can't tell.

Speaker 9 (02:13:40):
And the walk, the way it moves, the way the
skin wraps around muscle, it is especially when they enhanced it,
or not even enhanced it. What they did was they took.

Speaker 11 (02:13:50):
Frame by frame and they centered the sasquatch in the
middle of it, so everything moves around it, but you
can just see it perfectly. And because the film was shaken,
so they stabilized everything. That's all they did. And once
you see the stabilized version of it, then you're like, Okay,
wait a minute, what is that.

Speaker 9 (02:14:07):
That is not natural? I mean it might be natural,
but it's not some man in a suit.

Speaker 11 (02:14:13):
And yeah, there's been plenty of people that have had
experiences with with sasquash it we'll say, yes, that's that's
a real one.

Speaker 1 (02:14:22):
I'm in the believer category as well, that this is real.
And I haven't seen the documentary. Not many people have
because you have to have tickets to south By Southwest
in order to see it. Okay. The thing that concerns
me about it, and we always talk about credibility in
this field, Grant, we talk about, you know, credibility with

(02:14:45):
UFOs there's not a lot of good evidence about UFOs
out there. Yes, we've seen some dots. Yes, we've seen
some videos in the past that are very you know,
to some convincing, even to myself. Okay, but we don't
see a lot of alien videos that don't look CGI
or AI. We don't see a lot of interaction. We're

(02:15:07):
relying on people's stories, okay, and stories are hard to prove.
But with Sasquatch, it's the same way. And we see
a lot of clickbait videos out there right now with
this entire type of encounter. And what this has done
is it's given a lot of fuel to a lot

(02:15:30):
of people out there who are now saying, well, this
proves it's not real, this latest hoax. They haven't even
seen the movie because it's not officially released. Well, this
obviously proves this is a hoax and there's no such
thing as Sasquatch. Well, for those of us who have
had encounters, and I've seen three, you've seen yours, Okay,

(02:15:54):
many others have seen them as well. You cannot deny
the fact that there is not one, one, or two
or ten people running around North America alone into the
wilderness in the middle of nowhere who are leaving footprints, right,
It doesn't happen that way, you know. I mean it's

(02:16:17):
kind of like when you know, the skeptics all think
crop circles have been debunked because two British drunks decided
to go out there with a platform and a rope
and flatten a bunch of wheat in a field. Right,
So there is all of that. There is all of
this kind of stuff happening. So I'm a believer in

(02:16:40):
the field. Will I absolutely one watch it, Yes I will.
I want to see what they're talking about. But from
what I have seen and the evidence that I've seen
through my two Sasquat spots, and then especially the interactions
we've had at Flight twenty one, there is nothing more
that could convince me that this creature isn't real.

Speaker 9 (02:17:05):
I agree with you, wileheartedly.

Speaker 11 (02:17:07):
There's been friends of mine that go out and actively
look not only in northern California but on the Oregon
coast as well. In fact, you know him and he
will find the tepies that they make huge trees that
have been purposely hung up among other.

Speaker 9 (02:17:27):
Trees ripped out of the ground. And it's not like
they fell.

Speaker 11 (02:17:30):
These things are lifted up off the ground and purposely
went vertical. And all this cool stuff that's out there,
the gifting sites that are out there, which I believe
you have one as well, and the amount of people
that I've talked to that believe in this, you know,
based on the business that I own. I go out
and I talk to people every day, and I always

(02:17:52):
wear something, whether it's sor or you know, a Crypti
T shirt, Bigfoot, I have a big Foot hat. I'm
always wearing something like that, and that's what sparks the conversation.
And I will tell you a big percentage of people
that are run into believe wholeheardedly that sasquatch and they
all have a story.

Speaker 9 (02:18:09):
You can go over to Cave Junction organ and they
have a little printing.

Speaker 11 (02:18:13):
Store there that is also a Sasquatch store and they
have casting real molds of Sasquatch.

Speaker 9 (02:18:21):
Foot impressions on the ground.

Speaker 11 (02:18:23):
They have a log that you can sign in there,
which I am in there for anybody who wants to
know you can read it. And then they have a
huge map where people can put a pin where they
saw sasquatch themselves, and the amount of pins that is
on that thing they ran out, and now people are
starting to take one pin out of one area and
put it in a different one for themselves. And so

(02:18:44):
bring your own pin if you're going to put one
in the map. But yes, the evidence is overwhelming. Not
everybody can be wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:18:53):
You know, Nicole says it could be counter intelligence propaganda
to raise this skeptical point of view before the extended
version of the film and analysis of it gets released.
That the Maccabee's, like legendary scientist Bruce Maccabee and his
wife jan we're working on before Bruce passed away. That's

(02:19:17):
an old rumor, but apparently it died on the vine
as Bob Kiveetes project and when Bruce's health was failing.
So there's something interesting about that as well. I mean,
could this be you know, we're getting into the whole
UFO realm. Throw on a little bit more tinfoil. Why
not throw Bigfoot in there? Now?

Speaker 11 (02:19:37):
Well, there's been a lot of talk in the past
that I've talked about, You've talked about You've had guests
that talked about this, where Bigfoot might be one of
the same with what we're seeing when it comes to
UFO orbs, and unfortunately they call them UAPs.

Speaker 9 (02:19:49):
I hate that term.

Speaker 11 (02:19:50):
But they all might be part of the same phenomena
that we're seeing, and I'm open minded to that.

Speaker 9 (02:19:57):
Do I believe it? I don't know. I mean, I've
seen both in different times of my life.

Speaker 11 (02:20:03):
Whereas when you watch a bigfoot run away from you
in the woods that was less than twenty five thirty
feet from you and physically melt and my little kid brain.

Speaker 9 (02:20:17):
When I saw this, I wasn't real little, but I
mean I was ten years old, you know, and I
could not understand how it did that.

Speaker 11 (02:20:27):
That is the exact same phenomena that we're seeing when
we see orbs. You see them kind of come in
and out of existence, and it's so they could be
tied together. And you know what, even if it's negative traction,
people are going to see it for what it is, well,
at least the people that believe. And you're gonna have
the naysayers out there, oh, this proves everything, and never
watch a second of that video, and just because they

(02:20:49):
don't want to believe, you know, it's okay.

Speaker 9 (02:20:51):
You know, any any was it.

Speaker 11 (02:20:53):
Any media is good media, whether it be negative or positive,
because it's still pushing the ball forward.

Speaker 1 (02:21:01):
It really is. We had three minutes ago. We're going
to change subjects here because in the UFO world, something
weird broke today. I don't know if you saw this.
The United States government acquired aliens dot gov. What it's
going to be a new website, aliens dot gov. And

(02:21:25):
apparently this is all over. This is all over the Wired.
The New York Post is covering this as well, and
that they apparently have acquired this. Now, nobody's really made
a comment on why they acquired aliens dot gov. But
the theory that we are looking at here is that

(02:21:47):
it could be because that's maybe where they're going to
put the UFO files that they are going to release.
So that, of course is speculation. Never know until it happens,
but it really is something kind of interesting. What do
you think about aliens dot gov.

Speaker 9 (02:22:08):
I love that, I absolutely love that.

Speaker 11 (02:22:10):
I cannot wait to actually, as soon as we take
a break, I'm diving in real quick to go check
that out.

Speaker 9 (02:22:15):
Is it operable?

Speaker 4 (02:22:16):
Is no?

Speaker 1 (02:22:18):
So when you type in aliens dot gov you actually
get this site cannot be reached. Check if there is
a typo in aliens dot gov. So it's not active yet.
They've just bought the the website handle for it or
the domain name. So that's awesome, but you have to wonder,

(02:22:42):
is this something that we're going to have to watch.
Maybe this is where they're going to gather all the
UFO files or the UAP files or anything like that. Now,
a lot of people will sit there and say, Grant,
you know, it's not that big of a story. So
what they grabbed a domain name, what's the big deal? Well,
in the UFO world, anything that is tied to what
we do or what we talk about. It's like, you know,

(02:23:08):
show hey Ho Tani hitting a Grand Slam home run
in the World Series. You don't get especially against my
New York Yankees.

Speaker 9 (02:23:16):
I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (02:23:18):
Oh that was a terrible analogy. But nonetheless it's happened.
And what we need to do is think that we
in the UFO world, we work on morsels like crumbs. Okay,
we're not working with a full steak here, We're you know,
we're going after that little piece of gristle that you've

(02:23:38):
already cut off the steak and put on the side
that you don't want to chew. On for the next
twenty five minutes. Okay, that's literally what we're working on.
And it really is interesting that this could be the
place where everything is gathered when they're going to start posting.
We don't know what are they going to post, if anything,

(02:24:00):
we don't know. That's the only answer we have is
a website domain being made and we're all going crazy
over it, like, oh my god, this is actually happening. Grant,
We're going to talk about this and we are going
to get to some weird.

Speaker 9 (02:24:13):
News of the week.

Speaker 1 (02:24:15):
Brad Baker filling in for Terry Hall on the Weird
News of the Week. We always appreciate with Grants on
the air.

Speaker 10 (02:24:22):
And this is spaced out radio and your hosts name stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:24:47):
All right, buddy, we're clear, dude, they awesome. Yeah, yeah,
it totally is totally is ah some.

Speaker 9 (02:25:02):
Ah some.

Speaker 1 (02:25:05):
Is anyone familiar with Nissan? Yeah, it's a car bake.

Speaker 9 (02:25:11):
H my Nemesis cars. You know, it's funny being in
the car world, like both of us are.

Speaker 11 (02:25:20):
I did the sales side for a long time, but
I'm primarily a mechanic and Nissan are just when one
pulls in, it's a nose goes, I'm like, someone else
work it, man, I'm good.

Speaker 9 (02:25:31):
And usually it's a transmission. That's just usually what it is.
He is too, Oh yeah, got.

Speaker 11 (02:25:40):
That ETV or yeah or CBT transmission. Those things are
just horrendous smaller cars for Chevy. Everybody's got them now.

Speaker 9 (02:25:52):
Nissan just hasn't figured it out on how to make
them work a little better than normal.

Speaker 1 (02:26:02):
What are you buying next? For a vehicle? You look
like you should get an El Camino.

Speaker 9 (02:26:07):
I had a seventy al Camino. Yeah, I got rid
of that.

Speaker 11 (02:26:10):
And then so I just bought an zero four Yukon XL,
one of the big bad boys with an eight point
one in it. So four kids, and I said, right now,
I'll buy something that can tell as well. So finding
a twenty five hundred Yukon is very difficult. And I
could buy one with a three point fifty a V

(02:26:32):
eight for three to five thousand dollars, no problem. I
had to pay twelve thousand, seven hundred dollars that stinking
thing just because of what it is.

Speaker 9 (02:26:39):
I'm like, this is ridiculous. I bought it anyway. I
was like, whatever, I liked it. Now my wife drives it.
More than I do.

Speaker 11 (02:26:46):
So my next purchase, which is coming up here in
the next I've been trying this whole week. I'm looking
for a Volkswagen Beetle and air.

Speaker 9 (02:26:57):
Cold one for my daughter's which nice, yep. And because
of that, I'm looking for a van myself, a Westfalia.

Speaker 1 (02:27:08):
I am looking my next vehicle. I'm waiting for them
to come down in price, my next vehicle. And I've
been a Jeep Wrangler guy for years one. I love
my Jeep Wrangler I do takes me anywhere. But I
will tell you after driving a New Broncos, a New Bronco,

(02:27:31):
it is like going from literally a jeep to a
fine ride that is very smooth on a lot of bumps.

Speaker 9 (02:27:42):
So you were talking about the bigger one, not the
one with the three cylinder, correct.

Speaker 1 (02:27:48):
Well, they come in a two point three, they come
in to two point seven, and the Raptor comes in
a three point zero.

Speaker 9 (02:27:56):
Yeah, because they got the two different sizes of the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (02:28:00):
They have the Broncos Sport Yeah. No, I'm talking the
full size Bronco good Man.

Speaker 9 (02:28:06):
Yeah. Those are those are nice.

Speaker 1 (02:28:08):
They are so comfortable and you don't even like in
a jeep, you feel every bump and it throws you.
And that's part of the jeep experience, you know, is
that rigid suspension. But the Bronco you don't feel anything.

Speaker 9 (02:28:24):
Oh yeah, I've driven a couple of them. They're nice.

Speaker 4 (02:28:27):
The jeep.

Speaker 11 (02:28:27):
In fact, right now, my daughter asked me for it,
so I gave it to her and I put her
name on it, and that we found out she was
too short to reach the pedals because it's a stick,
and she is adamant.

Speaker 9 (02:28:39):
She wants a manual transmission car. Is the first car yep.

Speaker 11 (02:28:42):
I said, okay, and she's like, I want your old
Beetle because I used to have one. But one of
my buddies wanted it, so I sold it to him
for his daughter. She never said anything, so I didn't
know that she wanted it. And now she's like, well,
I wanted the beatle because I could reach the pedals.
I'm like, oh man, now I gotta I said, well,
what do you want to do.

Speaker 9 (02:28:57):
With the jeep? She's like, can we trade it?

Speaker 11 (02:28:59):
So I posted it up for trade and I've gotten
many replies on trading for a beatle.

Speaker 9 (02:29:05):
I just haven't found one. I found one that I like,
and the lady's kind of on the fence with it,
so I'm working on her.

Speaker 1 (02:29:11):
Yep, FAP says Dave is gonna settle on and used
me at a convertible. Well, my friend, we all know
that you've got the the shit colored brown Pinto that
you're afraid to even have the garage door touch the
back bumper on it, right, little four speed right there,

(02:29:41):
four speed automatic. You'd look good in a Pinto. FAP
twenty seconds. Don't forget to shop at our spaced out
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(02:30:04):
And here we go in five seconds, final half hour

(02:30:30):
of spaced out radio. We got Grant Baker here for
the weird news of the week. My name is Dave Scott.
Clad so much that you were with us. You make
it so much more fun when we talk about the
weird and strange things each and every night. Hey, we
are gonna get right back into this weird story that
the United States Government has made up Aliens dot gov

(02:30:50):
that's our new website, aliens dot gov. Now it's just
the purchase of a domain name. They haven't really set
it up yet. There is no website, so if you
go there, you're not going to see anything. And a
lot of people will say, oh, this is bogus. This
really doesn't mean anything. However, it isn't bogus. They actually

(02:31:12):
bought the domain name aliens dot gov. And I was
thinking during the break here, my friend, Okay, the government
has always been very.

Speaker 10 (02:31:25):
Very.

Speaker 1 (02:31:27):
Disinterested in aliens. Okay, Yes, a couple of years ago,
the at HI term came out non human intelligence. You know,
they switched UFOs to UAP because UFOs didn't bring credibility
to the subject, allegedly that we found out later on

(02:31:49):
that it was to cover man made objects. So why
do you think, just out of curiosity that they went
and picked up aliens dot gov doesn't make sense to
their pattern?

Speaker 11 (02:32:03):
Well, I mean, right now we're dealing with the time
where a lot of things are just gonna start coming out.
You have a lot of people naming dates, which I
hate doing. Yeah, everybody's looking towards the guise. It's getting
to the point where it's almost eminent that disclosure has
to happen, and why not.

Speaker 9 (02:32:22):
Prepare for it, you know, Aliens dot gov.

Speaker 11 (02:32:25):
Well, I mean it's either a portal for them to
drop a whole bunch of information or drip it like
they're tending to do. Or maybe another alien race is
going to use it and say hey and use it
as their pinterest.

Speaker 9 (02:32:39):
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (02:32:41):
And look, the simple answer of it all is we
may be blowing this way out of proportion. The simple
answer of it all is maybe they just want to
quickly buy it so that nobody else does it, tries
to make a profit off of it, because it is
kind of an attractive day Aliens dot gov, you know,
And I just look at it, like, my goodness, you've

(02:33:03):
tried over the last nine years. Hard to believe it's
nine years ago since the Two of the Stars Academy
came out. Okay, nine years. You've pushed this UAP crap.
You've pushed this NHI crap. You've pushed all of this
change of acronym in our beloved subject. You've caused arguments

(02:33:27):
between people because of it. You've caused people to go
absolutely haywire because you know, what are you doing? Arguing semantics?
Doesn't mean anything. Well, it does mean something, you know,
And obviously sometimes chaos is something that the government propagandists
do every now and again when they want to get

(02:33:49):
to a topic. But the one thing that they've all
stayed away from, even in the congressional hearings is aliens.
You might hear the odd extra terrestrians, but it's all
non human intelligence. So the fact that they bought or
were about to potentially build aliens dot gov. Maybe I'm

(02:34:10):
reading it to it a little bit too much, grant
because I love this subject a little too much, or
maybe there's something to it.

Speaker 9 (02:34:19):
Well, there might be actually something to it.

Speaker 11 (02:34:21):
I mean, the government doesn't do anything like that, Well,
they've never done anything like this before. They've created websites
and usually to buy a domain names that nobody else
can buy. I can go out and buy aliens dot
com if it's not already in use, which it probably is,
because not a lot of civilians like you and me

(02:34:41):
are going to buy a domain with the dot gov
and buy it unless we're part of some government. And
so I think having them buy it because they're trying
to keep it away from somebody else, that.

Speaker 9 (02:34:55):
Might be a moot. Point. But it's very interesting that
they even bought it in the first place, or even.

Speaker 11 (02:35:03):
Looking at building something like that, because you have, you know,
all these hearings that we've been watching on TV and
listening to it for the last few years. When you
have people like Rush and Nap show up and even
Commander David Fraber and others that have been on there,
you know, it's getting to the point where the drip

(02:35:25):
is starting to drip a little faster. We're getting to
a dribble now, And to me, it just looks like
a preparation. I think they're preparing, and you know, it's
just another drip in the bucket for them. Oh look,
we're going to do this and it's going to blow
people's minds. And they're notorious for doing one thing and

(02:35:45):
having you focus on that to get something else done
somewhere else. When it comes to the United States government,
they're notorious for doing that and living here. Once I
see something like this, which is great, I'm going to
look into it, obviously, but now I'm going to be
focusing on other spots and seeing what else they're trying
to do.

Speaker 1 (02:36:05):
You're very right, you're very white on the weaponized podcast
to be our final UFO story tonight with George Knapp
and Jeremy Corbell. They had whistleblower Matt Brown on there,
who talks about forming a whistleblower nonprofit, basically saying that
he believes that those who are critiquing the whistleblowers are

(02:36:27):
psyops put out there by the government in order to
try and discredit them, discredit their military credentials, discredit absolutely
everything that goes along with it. And he feels that
there needs to be some sort of whistleblower protection where
the whistleblowers can all get together and kind of build
a game plan, and that they have to be careful

(02:36:51):
with who they talk to and who they're with, and
all I'm thinking as I was listening to clips of
this earlier Grant, they're already doing that. What do we
need another nonprofit? For No offense to Matt Brown, you know,
I would love to have him on the show. I
would love to talk to him and get his perspective

(02:37:11):
and point of view. But one of the things that
I'm working on behind the scenes, Grant is I have
heard and once again I haven't confirmed. I have not confirmed.
As a journalist, I like to do three things. Number One,
if I hear something, it's a rumor. If I hear
it twice, it's got legs. If I get a third

(02:37:33):
source on it, we got a story. And I'm at
stage two of this, okay. But from the rumors that
I have heard, a lot of these whistleblowers are told
who they cannot can and cannot talk to. Okay. And
with that being said, here they are blaming all the

(02:37:57):
other people who are saying saying that all these people
are out to get them. Well, I don't agree with
anybody attacking them, okay. And that's one of the reasons
why I'm not on X because X has become just
a war zone. Not to use that, I use that
term very lightly with what's going on in the world,

(02:38:19):
but X has become a verbal war zone for anybody.
If I was a whistleblower, I wouldn't go on X.
It's the worse place to try and argue your point.
But that being said, I have heard rumors, and I'm
going to call them rumors right now because it's not

(02:38:39):
confirmed that a lot of these whistleblowers are being told
who they can and cannot share their stories with. And
when you are holding out that you're only allowed to
talk to certain people, usually with bigger YouTube channels, it
makes it a little bit more interesting for the rest

(02:38:59):
of us, us who are trying to get the information
out there. But all they're looking at is the subscriber numbers.
They're not looking at the actual people listening. We got
a big show. We may not show it on YouTube,
but our eight radio stations combine us for a couple
hundred thousand people who listen to this show nightly.

Speaker 11 (02:39:21):
And your thoughts on this, Grant, Yeah, when they're told
that they can't speak to a certain show i e.
Ours or somebody else's just because they don't have the numbers,
it brings me back to the basis of what a
whistleblower is.

Speaker 4 (02:39:39):
Well, it is.

Speaker 1 (02:39:39):
Let me correct you on something there. It's not just
about the numbers. It's about control of who they can
talk to about the narrative exactly.

Speaker 11 (02:39:49):
So let's say I'm a whistle blower, if I'm gonna
if I'm going to go out and say this is
what's going on, it's whether I'm protected or not. And
I think a lot of them, you know, with the
fear of losing their jobs and the fear of you know,
public ridicule and humiliation and their families being her, their
pensions being taken, et cetera. You know they're taking a risk,

(02:40:12):
but then once they do go public, they're told where
to go. Well, that's not a whistleblower in its true sense.
A whistleblower should be somebody just like what Bob Blizar
did back in the eighties. I'm going to go to
George Napp and blow this out of the water. And
back then, you know, everybody was like, what the heck
is this dude doing? And there's been multiple videos on
the guy. Be a real whistleblower if you're you know,

(02:40:36):
I'm not. There's a dude that's living in Russia right
now and I don't want to say his name, but
you know he's hiding out over there because of him
actually doing exactly that, being a real whistleblower and saying
this is what you know, the United States is doing
against his people. And that's exactly what I think its
whistleblower should be. And I've heard this from other people,

(02:40:57):
and I think Rosskohart even said that as well.

Speaker 9 (02:41:01):
Don't do it by the numbers, don't.

Speaker 11 (02:41:04):
Do it by because you're being told who to tell
if you're a whistleblower, go out and just do it
like if especially when you know Brown went on Weaponized
what a few months back, a little over a year ago,
and and that was a very interesting three part show,
and he just put it out there.

Speaker 9 (02:41:26):
Now, that's that's what you need to do, is put
it out there. And do we have the right to
know about it? I believe, I.

Speaker 11 (02:41:34):
Believe as a human race, not just one country to another,
but as the human race. You know, if there's something
out there that's visiting us, and there's and it's been
basically manned for many years of trying to figure out
why are we here? Are we alone in the universe?
If you have those answers, we need to know. It's

(02:41:55):
not going to tumble religions. We already found out by
the Pope and the Vatican. It's not going to tumble
them legends. It's more or less we as a people
need to know.

Speaker 1 (02:42:06):
Well, we're going to see what goes on here, my friend,
because it is very interesting. Let's get some weird stories
of the night. We are going to start here where
an Arizona man who was recently diagnosed with terminal cancer
sad traveled thousands of miles to Alaska to try and

(02:42:26):
kill his ex wife, with cops saying he lurked outside
a hair salon she owns and then opened fire on
the woman when she attempted to go inside. The man
then went and unlived her father before dying a day later.
How creepy is this. Matthew Becker, a sixty one year

(02:42:48):
old stand up comedian and comedy club owner, was facing
charges of first degree murder and third degree assault in
connection with the Saturday attacks on his ex wife and
former father in law during the shooting spree in Alaska.
He was found dead a day in the woods of
Eagle River. According to the police. It's unclear how he died.

(02:43:11):
His brother told local media in Alaska that he was
recently diagnosed with a terminal cancer diagnosis and that might
have been it.

Speaker 4 (02:43:19):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:43:20):
A criminal complaint obtained by the local NBC affiliate outlines
the events heading up to the slaying. The woman reportedly
called Anchorage police or reported that Becker had just tried
to shoot her. Scary officers responded to the scene, but
Becker had fled prior to their arrival. The ex wife
told the police that she arrived at her hair salon

(02:43:41):
and parked her car in front of the business. Becker
was in a Nissan Ultima park directly next to her vehicle,
and unfortunately she wasn't hit. However, then you know he
went and took care of the father in law. So
it's really weird, beca and scary because this guy literally
wanted to go out with vengeance Grant. That's just freaky, like,

(02:44:03):
who does that.

Speaker 9 (02:44:06):
That's pretty twisted, that's pretty dark like. And to travel
that far just for that's that's sick in the head.
That's very sick.

Speaker 11 (02:44:15):
Now there's a mental condition there that's not good. Well,
depression wouldn't even cover that.

Speaker 1 (02:44:21):
Let's move on here. So apparently Sheriff's offices down in
Florida around Daytona Beach thought there were a bunch of
gunshots going off. But it wasn't gunshots. It was people
crushing water bottles. Yeah, the plastic bottles, That's what they were.

(02:44:41):
That's what they were doing. So the noise that sparked
a massive panic at and a stampede among spring breakers
at the Daytona Beach over this past weekend was not
caused by gunshots. As initially feared, but rather by the
sound of people crushing their water bottles under their feet. Yeah.
The Valusia County Sheriff's office revealed that despite the chaotic

(02:45:06):
scene that captured on that was captured on viral videos,
the sheriff confirmed there were zero gunshots on the beach
and that fifty deputies were present in the crowd at
the time. Why this matters. While the incident highlights the
heightened sense of fear and anxiety that could grip large crowds,
especially the aftermath of recent big time pewpew incidents. While

(02:45:32):
no one was seriously injured, the stampede demonstrates that the
potential for tragedy when panic spreads rapidly through a densely
packaged public space. Yeah, so, Sheriff Mike Chitwood, the panic
can do sounding was simply the result of people crushing
water bottles. In total, eighty arrests were made over spring Break.

(02:45:56):
Six weapons were seized, but none of them originated from
the beach itself. The sheriff noted that in Florida, everyone
can carry, which is likely contributed to the initial fears.
Four separate shootings were reported in the city since Friday,
but none of them involve beach chaos. So now people
are worried about water bottles. And you know some of

(02:46:17):
those water bottles, especially the real thin plastic ones that
Nestley makes. I mean you crunch those together, it does
sound like like a rapid fire. PUPU.

Speaker 9 (02:46:30):
Yeah, I can understand that.

Speaker 11 (02:46:31):
Could you imagine now Florida state law is going to
say no stomping on water bottles at the beach.

Speaker 1 (02:46:36):
Bring back the thicker plastics. Let's get back to thicker plastics.

Speaker 9 (02:46:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:46:44):
And if you live in a state or a province
like I do that has paper straws, I learned something
I will never ever because it'd be c here. We
have paper straws, the most annoying thing in the world.
You know, you could go to a grocery store and
have ninety five percent of the product wrapped in some

(02:47:08):
sort of plastic, but they make you buy those idiotics bags.
That's for another day, and plastic straws are out because
plastic straws are the issue, right, So it'd be here's
my theory, my point on this. Have you tried using

(02:47:31):
a paper straw on a McDonald's shake.

Speaker 9 (02:47:37):
It doesn't work. It barely even works on a McDonald's
soda pop.

Speaker 1 (02:47:40):
It barely works on a shake. You now have to
take the lid off and drink your shake like you're
having a glass of scotch in order to enjoy your milkshake.
And then you get the when you have to tip
it up a little bit, that big glob that hasn't
melted yet pelts you in the face. And I'm a

(02:48:06):
strawberry shake guy, so literally I'm dodging my glasses and
my beard and my mustache, you know, trying to get
this shake in my mouth because all I want to
do is drink it, but I can't use the straw
because the straw is literally paper thin. And by the way, McDonald's,
if you're listening, let's start building cups that don't fold

(02:48:29):
the second you grab them from the drive through person. Okay,
have you seen how thin their cups are getting now?
In order to cut costs, you go and grab it.
You're like, oh, hey, thanks, you know, and you grab it.
And because you grab it because the person, the person
at the drive through always seems to have their hand

(02:48:49):
right in the middle of the cup. You ever notice
that they have their hand in the middle of the cup.
They don't put it on the bottom where you can
actually grip the cup properly. No, no, we're not gonna
do that. We're gonna put it on my hand right
in the middle of the cup so that way I
could grab it. And now, because there's that awkward transfer,

(02:49:10):
you're gonna squeeze harder on these cheap ass paper cups
that they are now using at all fast food restaurants
just to saved eighteen cents. Okay, and what what are
you gonna get a paper straw where you can't even
drink a milkshake out of it? Dude, I see you laughing, Okay,
but you know I'm right, Yeah, you know I'm right.

Speaker 5 (02:49:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:49:34):
Then you get the big glob of milkshake that hits
you in the forehead and you got this big pink
or chocolate you know, stain on your forehead like you're
a like you're a bullseye. Now that's now dripping down
your glasses, okay, into your facial hair, and you're like, man,
I didn't buy this just to you know, have to

(02:49:56):
go wash my face after every sip. I'm telling you,
these are first world problems that I'm done with so
now I love I love McDonald's milkshakes. Okay, my town
just got its first McDonald's on December nineteenth, and I

(02:50:17):
can't even have a milkshake. Lord knows you can't have
an ice cream cone because they even install the broken
ice cream cone machine with every McDonald's. You get, right,
But I can't enjoy a milkshake because of the stupid
paper straws. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 9 (02:50:34):
Oh, my cheeks are Indeed, I'm not wrong, though.

Speaker 4 (02:50:40):
My goodness is not wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:50:45):
Please please explain to me. Please explain to me how
we can have all of this plastic stuff in the
grocery stores. Or I go to Tim Horton's and I
get an ice cap. It comes in a plastic cut
up with a plastic lid, but I have to drink
it through a paper straw because the paper straw is

(02:51:07):
the problem. And look, I feel sorry for the animals
that are affected.

Speaker 13 (02:51:12):
I do.

Speaker 1 (02:51:12):
I love nature, but damn it, bring the plastic straw back,
bring it back. I want a bendy straw. I love
the bendy straws. We got to get back to normal,
and it starts with star straws. And on that note, Grant,
thank you for letting me rant. I just want to

(02:51:35):
enjoy a milkshake. It's good seeing you brother, my goodness,
I just want to enjoy a milkshake. For those of
you who still live in the land of plastic straws,
just know this Canadian is very envious of you, very envious.

(02:51:55):
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the handout at the drive through and say hello, mister
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