June 19, 2025 • 46 mins
In part 2 of our conversation, Virginia and I dove deep into what it really looks like to live from heaven to earth—not just in theory, but in our daily lives, businesses, and spiritual practices. We talked about co-creating with God, flowing in corporate unity, and walking in our kingly authority as sons of God.
From powerful stories of divine encounters to practical insight on discipling your soul and tuning your spiritual senses, Virginia shared wisdom that will both anchor and activate you.
Whether you're new to this journey or deep into your Kingdom realm flow, this conversation will stretch your thinking, stir your hunger, and help you walk in the authority you already carry.
This is a movement, not a moment.
There’s a new wineskin emerging, and this awakening is more than information. It’s transformation—and it’s happening through people like us.
If you missed part 1 - you know what to do. ;-)
BIO RECAP:
For over 30 years, Virginia Killingsworth has ministered to children, teens, and families in residential settings and has pastored people in a vast array of situations. She accesses the wisdom of heaven to enable people to understand and cooperate with the Father throughout their unique spiritual maturation process. She is skilled at untangling even the most complex stronghold and releasing Holy Spirit’s healing and freedom into the deep places of the soul. Her passion is to help people identify and walk in the fullness of their destinies and to live victoriously from heaven to earth.
HIGHLIGHTS:
From powerful stories of divine encounters to practical insight on discipling your soul and tuning your spiritual senses, Virginia shared wisdom that will both anchor and activate you.
Whether you're new to this journey or deep into your Kingdom realm flow, this conversation will stretch your thinking, stir your hunger, and help you walk in the authority you already carry.
This is a movement, not a moment.
There’s a new wineskin emerging, and this awakening is more than information. It’s transformation—and it’s happening through people like us.
If you missed part 1 - you know what to do. ;-)
BIO RECAP:
For over 30 years, Virginia Killingsworth has ministered to children, teens, and families in residential settings and has pastored people in a vast array of situations. She accesses the wisdom of heaven to enable people to understand and cooperate with the Father throughout their unique spiritual maturation process. She is skilled at untangling even the most complex stronghold and releasing Holy Spirit’s healing and freedom into the deep places of the soul. Her passion is to help people identify and walk in the fullness of their destinies and to live victoriously from heaven to earth.
HIGHLIGHTS:
- Revelation without the “how to” = Frustration
Virginia nails it: we’ve got tons of powerful teaching out there, but without translating it into daily life, it just floats away. Her Overshadowed group helps put “skin on it” by making revelation practical, actionable, and personal. - The Brain Shreds New Info (Unless You Practice!)
Learning isn’t one-and-done—it’s more like learn, forget, repeat… until it sticks. Virginia’s group offers homework and community accountability so new truths actually get lived out instead of lost in the shuffle. - Group Dynamics Expose and Heal Hidden Stuff
When you start applying kingdom principles, anything that doesn't align starts bubbling up. Being in a safe group means you can process old mindsets or familiar junk with people who cheer you on, not judge you. - “Transformation Comes from Implementation” (Bralynn’s “famous” quote.) ;-)
James said it best—be doers of the Word! This isn’t shelf-help. If it doesn’t show up in your actions and real life, it won’t stick. That’s why you need practical action steps to anchor spiritual truths. - The Overshadowed Group is for Womb-Bearers of Heaven
Whether you’re birthing breakthrough in your family or contending for cities, the Overshadowed group is for anyone who wants to co-create with God and bring heaven to earth. Inspired by encounters with God’s overshadowing presence, this group is a training ground for spiritual midwives of the new era. - Find your voice, but tune in to the room.
Virginia encourages people to speak up and bring their piece—but with sensitivity. It’s not about dominating; it’s about flowing with others in harmony, especially in a Kingdom-centered space. Be bold and aware. - Learn to catch the corporate wave.
In Christ-focused gatherings here’s a “higher stream” that flows above all our individual musings. It’s the corporate move of God. Tuning into that requires rising above your bubble and listening beyond your own circumstances. - You’re not a thermometer—you’re a thermostat.
Virginia reminds us: we’re not just called to reflect the atmosphere; we carry the authority to shift it. Don’t just report the spiritual weather—set the spiritual tone with your presence. That’s Kingdom maturity in action. - We’re not stuck in our Zoom boxes.
Don’t let screens fool you—we’re one in Spirit. Bralynn and Virginia both affirm that spirit-travel and unity across the globe is possible. We’re wired for spirit-to-spirit communication. The church has only scratched the surface of what’s possible when we meet together in the spirit. These Zoom rooms can literally be launching pads for spiritual transformation across nations. - Science is finally catching up with the Bible
What used to sound mystical now has brainwave studies and quantum physics backing it up. Our spiritual experiences are legit, and science is starting to prove it. - Sustained spiritual practice requires real commitment
This isn’t a “dabble for a few weeks” kind of lifestyle. It takes intentionality and consistency over the long haul. The tyranny of the urgent is killing depth – So many people are overwhelmed with options, driven by FOMO, and ne
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If I have trouble like during you know, like maybe
during the week when I'm praying about it or when
I'm prepping that I've noticed a pattern that, oh, it's
always a struggle, and that's my clue. I've got to
get break through beforehand. And the Lord was reminding me
about Daniel Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome to the Spirit Centered Business Podcast. Well we blend
the spiritual with the practical for supernatural results. Now here's
your host, Berlyn Nuby.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Welcome back to part two with Virginia Killingsworth. And in
case you missed part one, definitely do that. We were
talking about the scalability of doing groups and especially this
during this time of transition in the body of Christ,
when we're searching for community. We're searching for people who
(00:58):
get us or people we can explore and go deeper
with God and and walk the journey of kind of
destruct deconstructing the old wine skin and stepping into the new.
So part one was really good. We went on, we
went to the cosmos and fact.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Didn't we Virginia, so we did.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Anytime?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Oh, I know, I know, it was fun. So I
want to really focus on exactly what people can expect
in your overshadowed group, like what, I know, you're only
into a few months under your belt by this time,
but you have some you have some good stories, and
I just want to give people a little taste of
(01:41):
what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well. I think one of one of my one of
my heart my goals is to really you know, there's
there's some great revelatory teaching out there right now. You
know that's really shifting things and shifting paradigms. But what
I've found, and I don't think I would have really
known this as much if I wasn't working with a
group of people like you know, Earthsuit to earth Suit
(02:05):
in a local you know, ecclesia, I don't think I
would have been as aware of this problem that people
have difficulty translating the concepts to real life. And so
to show people, Okay, what do these what does this
look like with skin on? And then the encouragement to
(02:28):
you know, because when you hear something new, you know
a lot of times you're like, yeah, you know, it resonates,
but you forget it. And you know, I have a
degree in secondary education, and I remember one of the
instructors saying people will learn, forget learn, forget and learn
forget before they finally remember. I've also heard that's maybe
seven times. I'm not sure which is true, but you know,
our brain shreds new stuff. And so I think to
(02:52):
have a group where you're you're you're going over, oh
did oh I heard so and so say this but
I didn't really understand it. And to be able to dialogue,
to ask questions, but also to be able to break
down for people. Okay, this is what this looks like practically,
and this is how this would look in your life.
(03:13):
This is how you apply it, and then let's do it.
Now you have homework, So I give a little homework
and okay, this is what you do this month to
make this concept that you heard and were excited about, uh,
to make it real and to understand how to how
to work it out. And another thing that happens is
(03:34):
that when you start doing that, things that are to
the contrary, whether it's familiar patterns and cycles and beliefs
or you know, other you know, other things that our
contrary start to come to the surface. So in the
in the framework of a group, you know you can
you can hold each other accountable, you can encourage each
other you know, you you see my junk, right, but
(03:57):
it's familiar to me, so I can't see it. But
everybody else, I'm sure does really well. And that's just
the nature of it. So in a safe atmosphere, we
can encourage and support each other, you know, not pointing
fingers or that judgy thing, but just in encouragement and questions.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
That's so good.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And I love that you said that you give homework,
and you know in my in my boot camps and
my you know programs, I do too.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Because here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You know, it's I think it's in James where it
says don't just be hearers of the word, would be doers.
You know, it's implementation. And from the beginning of when
I started my business in twenty twelve, I always say transformation.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Comes from implementation.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Doesn't matter what you're doing, You've got to do what
you're talking about or what you hear in your head,
because if you don't do it, if it doesn't make
sense in real life, then it's just you know, like
you said, your brain shreds it, it goes away. You know,
it's like I never want to be shelf help.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, no, no no, And you know, the parable of
the seeds, right, you know, the birds of the air. Right,
let's take those if we're not, if we're not implementing
it and helping each other, supporting each other, bringing it
back to our remembrance. I just was ministering somewhere yesterday
that I hadn't been for maybe a year or year
and a half or something, and you know, they were like, oh,
(05:23):
you know, kind of like, oh, we need we needed
to be reminded of this, you know, because they're kind
of in their little vein and this is this. This
doesn't contradict that, but it does go on that foundation
like come on, let's let's live out of heaven. Let's
do it. Let's do it from you know, from our
seat of rest in the heavenly realm instead of getting
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bogged down in earth stuff. And they said, wow, we
really needed to you know, we had gotten, we had
gotten in our familiar what we needed to be reminded.
So I think in a group setting is really good
to do that, and it shows up in all of
us when it's like, oh, wow, I was I was
thinking way that I was used to thinking instead of
the way that I'm expanding.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So what is the format or the structure of your group.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Are you teaching?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Is it Q and A, is it a combo? Is
it do they have a like an agenda that their
roadmap to walk through?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
What does it look like for yours?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Well, you know, I'm kind of finding my way with
this too, because in the in the past, when I
would do groups, it would be very specific to a
you know, like an addiction group or a codependency here
back in the day, you know, And so this is
a little more open ended. So I'm kind of finding
my flow and I'm really trying to put my finger
on the pulse of what people need. So I had
(06:39):
it the first one, I had a little more open
and it felt it felt like that they were kind
of not quite even sure. So I've filled in that
space a little bit, and I think as I do
that for a few times, I think then the dialogue
will start to come and start to flow. But I think,
you know, they didn't know each other, they weren't sure
(07:01):
of the format. So I've kind of shifted a little
bit to to filling up this, you know, having testimonies
of breakthroughs right from the from the past, you know,
from the past, class questions any you know, any bumps
in the road, you know, but I'll limit that time
so that's not all it is. And then I'll share
a little bit. We'll usually practice, you know, we're practicing
(07:25):
explaining and practicing some spiritual technologies, building spiritual structures into
which we make our decrees and our declarations, and to
practice it together. And then you know, usually Q and
A or you know, something like that at the end.
But I expect to be able to kind of step
back a little bit and let it flow more over time.
(07:45):
Mm hmm, I.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Hope, yeah, yeah, of course that sounds really good. So
what are people able to go back and watch the replay?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Then are you putting that in the group? In the forum?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I do put that in the group. Now. At first,
I was under the impression that people couldn't see anything
that before they joined the group, so I was reposting.
But then a couple of people last group told me
that they were able to see stuff that was posted
before they got in the group.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Oh yeah, definitely that software, and I mean we installed it,
so yes, I know what software that is, and yes
they can see anything that you've posted in the group.
And it doesn't matter if it's a year ago or whatever.
If it's in the group, they can get.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
To it and find out it was before they joined.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, so that's another reason why as a group facilitator,
you want to make sure that things are as organized
as possible so people can find things by topic and
all of that.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I know yours is just starting up.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
But for our audience, who is thinking about doing a group,
that's really good. So who is this Overshadowed group for?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I think it's really for anybody, which would be everybody,
but it would be for anybody that desires to birth
Heaven from earth. And the Overshadowed goes back many many
years to an encounter that I had with the Lord
in the early early days when I first was just
encountering the spirit, realm, you know, and the prophetic and
all that, you know, and I had this, I had
(09:22):
a just a supernatural encounter in worship and he gave
me a song and you know it was it was
from Luke. It was this the you know, the song
of when he overshadowed Mary. But the Lord was just
it was my cry to the Lord overshadowed me. I
want to be your womb on the earth. I didn't
have a grid for living out of heaven or any
of that. And then fast forward, so a number of
(09:44):
years later I had another it was it was in
worship as well, another supernatural encounter where I was I
was writing a song and his wings came in the
room overhead and gave me the download. And it had
to do with being overshadowed and bringing forth life in
places where death used to be. So that that fits
(10:04):
the transition that we were talking about, right, that the
age is the new thing being birthed. It's Revelation twelve, right,
that the Messiah coming from the womb of a woman,
but also the Son's being birthed from the womb of
the church, right, which is now a womb that's being
dismantled in you know, for the bigger, the bigger wine skin.
(10:25):
And so I'm not saying God's doing away with the
body of Christ, but you know what I mean, the structure.
So I think it's for anybody that desires to co
create with God from heaven to earth, starting here and
then moving outward. So you know, there's some people that
really their focuses on just getting a breakthrough in their
own soul or in their own family or with their children,
(10:46):
with their businesses. There's other people that you know, you know,
are in full time ministry and they they're contending for
you know, for cities and regions. So I think it's
it's for all of us to learn what this looks
like and to learn how to do it together.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
What age group?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
All ages? Now, so it's all women so far. Now
I didn't I didn't tell the men they couldn't join
that it is all females, but of all ages.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Okay, And I know you haven't really marketed very much,
but you still have a full house. So that's amazing.
God's hand is on it. That's so good. Yeah, awesome.
So any other tips that you would encourage people to
think about as they're coming into.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Your group or any group.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I just think, you know, just just be open, right,
be open, don't be afraid to communicate. I think one
of the things that the old wineskin taught us is,
you know, you sit down, you be quiet. Do you
know you go into spectator mode. Literally when I year's
a go, I was leading worship at this church and
there was this book on the by the soundboard. It
(12:05):
said how to be a good Sheep that was the
name of the buck, and I was like, oh my goodness,
you know, and so part of unlearning that is, okay,
let's all find our voice. This is a group. Okay,
this is Virginia Killingsworth's group, cause I'm gonna sit and
listen to her like a good sheep. And if that's
where we're starting, that's okay. But I want to encourage people, Okay,
(12:29):
find your voice and when other when people asked, have
questions or you know, have testimonies, or hit maybe hit
a brick wall, Okay, what do you have to say?
And to learn to flow together as a as a
corporate where you know, we're Americans were used to thinking
we're individuals, and this is something that you know in
(12:49):
ecclesias we do run into sometimes in our local body. It'll,
you know, will people it'll be hard to cultivate. Okay,
I can go in and have an encounter with the
Lord regardless of what's going on corporately. But what is
going on corporately? Is there a corporate flow? And are
we even asking that question right? Learning to think both
(13:10):
individually and corporately. So I would just like to, you know,
I would want to encourage people, you know, find your voice,
be who you are, and then every you know, everybody's
piece is important as we flow together. Sensitivity to Holy Spirit,
sensitivity to each other. It's not all about me, right,
you know, is it's I'm an important piece of this
(13:31):
equation and you don't have to hide.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah. I think that's important to understand that. I mean,
if you're in crisis mode, that's probably not a great
place to step in and make the overtake the group
and make it be about you.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Right right, And I do. I always set time limits,
you know. You know, sometimes I'll say, okay, how many
people have testimonies or questions from the you know, homework
from the you know, since the last time, and then okay,
let's divide there four of you. Let's divide that by
fifteen minutes. You each have whatever you know, and then
you know, gently force it so nobody feels shut down.
(14:11):
But yet there's if people aren't sensitive because of their
they're the intensity of their own pain or situation, then
we're just gonna, you know, we'll help them.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
M And so I think that that rising to the
corporate flow and finding, you know, because typically we're in
our own stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
And the corporate flow.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
To me, this is the way I've experienced it is,
it goes up higher. Like ever, it's over everybody's heads
in the church, there's a there's a stream flowing, right,
so everybody's in their own bubble here, and you have
to kind of get up into the flow of what's
the corporate flow of what God wants to do here.
Any any tips or tricks on how to do that
(14:55):
or how to like put out your spiritual feelers and
your antenna to to find that higher corporate flow, Do.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Maybe I am explaining it, Okay, I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
No, that's a great I'd never thought of it that way,
but I think I think it's very accurate and very
true because if if I can have my own little
encounter with God, regardless of what's going on, you know,
it could be oppressive or whatever, but I'm one spirit
with Him, so I can commune with Him even in
the midst of all that.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But I think the first thing is just having a
grid even asking the question. I don't think we've ever
been taught to ask that question, what does God doing? Okay,
I know what God's doing with you. You're having a
rough day, or you're having an awesome day, or you're
on fire, you're a king on fire? Reallyn I am,
(15:48):
but what is God doing corporately? And I think the
first thing is really just teaching people that that's even
a thing, and then okay, take the corporate temperature. And
then I think the second thing would be Okay, you're
my friend Connie says this, and I was praying about
this today. We're we're a thermo. I mean, we're a thermostat,
not a thermometer. So then you know, yeah, first is
(16:12):
even Yeah, so first is even asking the question and
having that thought. But then once I take the temperature,
it's not like, oh, you know, it's so oppressive in here.
It's like, no, I'm a thermostat, father, how do I
change that? And then we can easily do it together.
Whereas if ninety five percent of the people are oblivious
(16:34):
and five people are going something right, you know, you
may or may not steer the ship. So I'm the
same is true in an in person gathering or in
a group. I think it could apply either way.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, when you said thermostat or I'm sorry, I'm having
color issues.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I don't know why my camera keeps slipping back and forth.
I just need to be still.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
But when you said that, what I was thinking was
reha stat because flipping from our soul to spirit is
a real stat.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
It's not like an on off switch.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
To me, this is the way I've experienced it is
I can be mostly in soul, half and half or
mostly in spirit, right, and so typically if I'm in
soul at that end, it's all about me, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I'm just being honest, like, it's just just whatever. I'm
going through, what I need.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I'm seeking the Lord on you know, I'm holding onto
his tassels.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
You know, I'm whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It's it's I I I me, me me. But as
I flip over into spirit, then I can start seeing
what he sees and seeing what's important to him, which
is if you're in a group, it's probably not all
about you. I'm just saying, yeah, hopefully you're right.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And the cool saying is you can outgive him right
once you get above it and your soul is blessed,
your soul is restored. You know you can't. So it's
all encompassing because when it is the one you know
running the show, then soul is soul gets the benefits.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Soul does get the benefits, but sometimes she doesn't know that.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
It just still reaches ubber and grabs the steering wheel.
I'm like, okay, that's it. You backseat.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
No, you can't even be in the passenger seat.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So I think that that just being aware of the
shift from soul to spirit will help you get into
the flow of a corporate if the if you're.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
In a group and you're kind of okay, So here's
another thing. No matter where you are.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
In the world, we can be together in spirit. So yeah,
it looks like we're separate on zoom screens, but in
the spirit, we could literally be all in the same room.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
And I think that that concept do we.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Forget about because we feel so individualized, you know, and
our view outside of the zoom screen is so different
from each other, and we're concerned about this rather than
coming up and meeting in a place.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Right, And that's a great example of how we're learning,
you know, how the children of this world are wiser
than the children of light. You know, you got the
witches and all those people doing all that stuff, right,
and yet we're you know, we're just now talking about
this and learning to operate as spirit beings that are
not confined to the limitations of our earth suit. So
(19:37):
when we really you know, and and their counterfeit is
so so small compared to what they have right their soul.
I mean, they don't even have made a life in
Christ's spirit. Their soul can only leave their body for
a short time with the help of a demonic spirit
right and making all these trades right, But we we
(19:58):
are spirit beings right that are encased in the protective
bubble of Holy Spirit. There are no limitations. We can
like the wind, right, those that are born of the
spirit are like the wind. So I mean the real
so far eclipses the counterfeit, which is why the enemy
doesn't want us to know there's a real and he
(20:19):
doesn't want us to want us to know that it's
for us. And so I think these zoom groups are
a great way. And you know, I haven't really started
doing this very much with this overshadowed group, but I
have another prayer group that is very international, and we
are starting to tap into these kinds of things, you know,
because we've been together longer, and it's you know, just
(20:40):
it's a different focus. But I think any group is
really is really conducive to what you're saying. Okay, how
do we move together as a team, both for ourselves
and for our nations and the nations of the Earth,
or you know topics. I remember hearing Ian Clayton say
one time, you know, he was talking about Fukushima. He goes,
(21:02):
the earth Man, humanity has no answer for this. The
sons are gonna have to step up and answer this. So,
you know, situations like that that seem like Earthly Catch
twenty two's, I think little groups and pockets of us
can rise up and go, hey, let's go, let's go
do let's go do this.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Have you heard of the telepathy tapes. It's kind of
kind of a thing that's going around. Yeah. So this
these parents of autistic children finally found out that the
autistic children are literally meeting together in the spirit and
(21:43):
they're having conversations and they're doing all of these things,
and it's yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
So it's there.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
They're called they're they're the non verbal, non talker autistic kids.
And there's this board that they can start using to
help them speak and you know, tell people what's on
their mind. And for so many years, the parents have
been told by the doctors and by the medical system
that they're not really home.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
There's there's no one there. You know, you can you
can live on.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Them, you can do this, but they're not really you know,
they're but that's totally not true.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
They they are there.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
They're very aware, they're very creative, they're very brilliant. They
put pieces together and puzzles together, just not in the
way that we do it, because they're not doing it
in the physical world. They're doing it in the spirit realm.
And so to the scientific world.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
This is like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And to all of us who've been doing it for years,
we're like, yeah, hello, so.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I've not heard of that, but wow, wow, yeah, yeah,
it's a cloob what doctor Aiko Hormann says. She says
science is finally catching up with the.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Bible, right right, right, exactly example of that, Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
So, I've I've watched a couple interviews.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
They have a podcast literally called Telepity Tapes. But then
also one of the founders or the doctor, I don't
know who, the guy was connected to it somehow was
was on other people's podcasts.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
That I was in.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You know, they're the ones that I follow, and so
that's how I got hooked up to this. And yeah,
it was like it's just like you sit there, You're
gripping your seat and going, I just want to say
something because like, don't you know this. The people in
church need to hear this. They need they need to
know that we can do this. We can meet in
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the spirit that the Lord bedigned us this way. That is,
you know, that is a communication tool for us to do.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And yeah, so what groups are just like kindergarten of that, right,
it's just technically, oh and okay, first sem the natural,
then in the spirit, if you can do this using
a zoom screen, then hey, how about without that? Without
that or you know, maybe that's maybe that's what he's
doing one of the things that he's doing. Even is
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the personal benefits of it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I think my audience may have heard this, but I
don't know if I ever shared this with you, Virginia
is I We used to do that. We used to
practice this was probably twenty twenty time Framish we had
an Ecclesia group who met. We met at eight thirty.
We met in the spiritual room in our war room
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and we would give each other something or tell something something,
or you know, just watch what goes on. And then
at nine o'clock we would get on zoom and say,
you know, did you get what I gave you? Or
did you hear what I said? You know, we would
practice these things.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I love it, and yeata is it pretty?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Did it?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Was it pretty cohesive?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well? You know, it's hard when you're first starting out,
and I think that we had we had some not
really good seers, so we were doing the absolute best
we can.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
But here's a cool story that did come out of it.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I was in my eight thirty time in the Spirit
and I saw one of the girls in the group
under the table and I'm like, what is she doing
under the table? And I'm looking down, I'm like, she's
just sitting there a cross legged under the table and
I couldn't tell what she was doing. Well, so, anyway,
at nine o'clock, when we were saying, okay, why did
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you see what she and she's like, I don't know.
It just felt like there was something over my head.
It was dark and all I could see were these
vertical lines all around me.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
That is so good.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, yeah, that was that was pretty hilarious. So I
wish I had a group that we're dedicated, because here's
the thing. You can't just do this for a couple months.
This is something you have to be committed to working
on and pray to sing over the long haul. And
you can't just say, ah, yeah, not this week, I'm
too busy, or you know, miss it and you know
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all of that stuff. You've got to be committed because
that it really takes practice because it's so outside of
our normal three D reum obviously literally out of our
three D realm that we have to commit to practicing.
So I have not found another group to do it with,
but I'd be interested.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well, you know, I do think and we've experienced that
both with our uh now with our the other group,
not not the Overshadow Grip. The other group is early
in the morning, and so there tends to be not
as much. Oh I'm busy. I can't do it as
as our local you know, but just consistency is just
like it's just herding cats. And I thought when I first,
(26:49):
you know, when we first started, I thought, maybe it's
like a local thing. Maybe it's something in the area,
you know whatever. But I've been talking to other people
and they're like, no, it's across the board. And I
think it's I think it's what the enemy is doing
to fragment and causes to be distracted and disconnected. And
it's the you know, the tyranny of the urgent, right,
the good where we can't commit to one thing where oh,
(27:13):
you know, we've got we've got overwhelmed because we want
to do everything. You know, we got fomo and all
this stuff in all these things, so we're not doing
any of them well, and we're not we're not really committed.
So I think that's really one of the things that
the that the adversary is doing in the infancy of
this movement is just to scatter and fragment.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And distracted, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Distracted with the good. Yeah, yeah, really focused on the
on the you know, the hundredfold, right.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
And you know, since this is spirit centered business in
the business world and in in my industry, you know,
the the gurus would say, that's why you price things high,
that's why because if people are paying for it, they'll
show up.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Oh that's good, which is true.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I mean, if I'm paying a lot for something, I'm
not going to just miss it right.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Right, It's going to be priority, and it's going to
attract the people that can make it priority exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And so it's the opposite of what the church is,
you know, the church is like we're just going to
give everything free, or how much can I get for free?
Or what?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
You know?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
What can I do for free? What's not going to
cost me too much? What are they not going to
expect me to make too much of a commitment? You know, right,
what's the littlest I can do? And it's the opposite
of the Kingdom, you.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Know, absolutely, you know absolutely, that's really good. Yeah, I
mean you know we I've had a grid for okay,
when when people need to sew in right that I
hadn't connected it with the priority piece.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, it's well, it's your it's the treasure versu in
the Bible, where your where your heart lies, your treasure is,
or the opposite way around, where your treasure is your
heart lives. It's the same thing like if your if
your treasure is there, your heart will.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Be there, right right. So it's it's okay, I'm gonna
buy you know, fifty pieces of candy or one.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know, say I'm going to go to Starbucks and
get a latte every day, but for the that four
dollars a day times thirty days a month, you know,
for one hundred and twenty dollars, I could join this
program and do something that's eternal. Yeah, that's really just
don't think that that way, you know, that's so good. Yeah, well, translating,
(29:41):
I have just I wrote down two different things translating
the concepts into real life, which I you know, so critical,
and I think that the church doesn't serve that well
and that's probably why why they're coming to us as outliers,
you know, to be to you taught on how to
make that translation. You have any more thoughts on that concept?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, I do. You know, one of the things the
Lord is he's really been speaking to me a lot
about the four faces of God, Lion, ox, equal, Man,
and you know the you know lions, the kingly, the oxes,
the priestly, the the the eagle is the Word and
the man is the Word made flesh. And so you know,
I'm actually going to be breaking this down a little
bit for my for my group tonight. But the you know,
(30:29):
the the kingly and the priestly. It's the order of Melchizedek. Right,
it's not the levitical priesthood, it's the it's a heavenly priesthood.
You know. He made us kings and priest after his order,
which is order, you know, order of Melchizak. So we
we legislate and we overshadow from the heavenly realm, but
it manifest in the earth.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And then the word and the word made flesh, which
is doing the works of the kingdom, are primarily earthly,
but they have their source in heaven. And so I
think I know for me, and this is probably true
for most of us in past seasons. You know, I
grew up Baptist, so I knew about doing the stuff,
you know, you know you do, you do all this stuff,
(31:12):
But it wasn't sourced in heaven, right, it wasn't. I
wasn't doing what I saw the Father doing because I
thought he stopped speaking a long time ago, right, And
I didn't know I was seated there. So I was
doing a lot of really good stuff and did not
have very much fruit at all, you know, just on
that religious hamster wheel. And then you have like we
just talked about. You know, we have the we have
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those a lot of people that are living out of
the heavenly realm. But I think people are having trouble
understanding how that connects. So one of the things I'm
really going to be working with my group on is
the connecting of the four faces. How to operate in
the kingly and the priestly and how how does that
manifest in the earth through the Word and the Word
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made flesh.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I love that, Yeah, because they have to go together
in order. You know, Jesus was the lamb Slaine from
before the foundation of the world, but in the fullness
of time, he wrapped himself in human flesh. He came
and did what God called him to do in the
earth realm. So I think it's timely for where you know,
I think where we are in this movement, and I
(32:17):
believe it is a movement, right, It's an awakening, it's
a movement, the beginning of a of a wine skin,
and I think that's it's a timely message for where
we are.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I think you might have an old video either on
All Things Restored YouTube channel or on your own somewhere,
because I saw some of that you're teaching on that.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
When I didn't really know what it.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Was at all, I'm like, let's see if Virginia taught something,
because whatever Virginia teaches is good.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
That it was really good.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
But about two months ago I actually got a word,
and it turned out to be a word for not
only for myself but for another person in that I
kind of told it a little bit wider, and so
it was kind of like a little bit of a
my stream of influence word. And it was about being
the ox, having the putting on the ox face because
(33:15):
the the ox you're you're not muzzling the ox. The
ox gets fed, and all it needs to do is
keep stepping. The Lord is right here yoked, and you
just have to face forward and keep stepping forward.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
And what the Lord showed.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Me was that the yoke that was across my shoulders
and the Lord's shoulders on his side, it was this heavy,
big timber beam right on my side. It was a
big piece of styropham painted to look like a heavy
timber beam. I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Oh yeah, perfect, I know, great.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
That is what do Yeah, yeah, All you need to
do is just know that he's right here and just
keep stepping forward and just keep make sure you're right
here with him and step forward.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Now, keep living as a dead guy, right, let him
let him wear you like skin. Right, he's doing the
hard work.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah. Yeah, it was so good.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Such a good picture Berlin, and that's so true.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm looking forward to that. I'm
looking forward to being able to join the group. It's
on Wednesday nights and I have some Bible studies going
on Wednesday nights, but we're I think we're taking off
for the summer, so I might be able to join
you guys for the summer.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That'll be good, that would be wonderful.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
So again, the group is called Overshadowed and you can
find it on Virginia Killingsworth dot com. And it's part of.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Do you want me to say it? Or do you
want to say it?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Do you have more to say than about the three piers?
And no, no, that's it's your oky Okay. So it's
it's part of her three tiered mentoring and the first tier.
As you know, she's she's a terrific client.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
So this is why I know this inside. And notice
because I've been coaching.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
There would be no class or anything without Briland.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I'm like, why is she telling the story about someone else?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Like, no, it's because I know it.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Oh it's the first Here is a DIY do it yourself.
It's her Miracles Made Normal book and the online course
which is absolutely terrific, you guys, And I think we
talked about this way back in episode forty nine, way
way back when the book first came out. Let me
(35:40):
tell you guys. I got my hands on that book
and I'm like, oh, someone needs to teach this.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
And then I got about halfway through, I'm like, I
need to teach this. And I'm like, Virginia, can I
teach this?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
And she goes, I'm teaching this. Okay, good at least someone.
So she has an online course which is absolutely phenomenal,
all of co creating with God. And so that is
the first tier. And then the second tier is this
group that we've been talking about overshadowed. So it would
(36:10):
be helpful to have read the book or gone through
the online course, but you don't have to. But this
is an interaction, interactive live group that you can chat
to each other during between meetings and then obviously meet
live and have her do the teaching in Q and
A and you challenges and things like that that are
(36:30):
going on. Testimonies from the time before. All of that
kind of stuff is the live and the third Tier
is coming soon. We'll talk about that. We'll have you
back on the show and we can talk about the
third tier.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
You know, I loved any excuse to hang out with
you for lynn Oh.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
I know, we have good conversations. I love it.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, So we did cover a lot of ground today.
We talked about accessing that corporate flow as well. When
you're in a group, I think it's so important us
to tune our spiritual senses, get our rias stat moreover
into spirit And like Connie says, you're a thermostat and
not a thermometer. You know, you do set the temperature
(37:14):
of how much interaction you're going to do.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
And I think that's important. Any other thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Well, I think that's part of kingship, you know. And
I would you know, and I'm still growing in this,
but I'm getting a little better, you know. I would
do great, you know, like leading worship or whatever. If
it was wide open, It's like whoa, you know, this
is fun. But if it was if there was something
going on, I wouldn't always be able to discern or
(37:43):
see what it was, or know what to do about it,
or have the omp to press through it. And that's
that's kingship. And so you know, that was I'm you know,
I always love to just flow with the spirit, and
that part's easy. But that dominion and that authority is
something in God's having to work in me, both just
in my in my own kingship, but also you know,
(38:05):
in the wisdom of understanding. Okay, this is how this works.
And and just teaching learned. This is just recent I've learned,
you know, when I'm preparing for like worship or teaching
or something like that, if I have trouble like during
you know, like maybe during the week when I'm praying
about it or when I'm prepping that, that I've noticed
(38:25):
a pattern that, oh, it's always a struggle, and that's
my clue. I've got to get break through beforehand. And
the Lord was reminding me about Daniel Nash who always
went before Charles Finny in the Second Great Awakening and
prayed and travailed until the breakthrough came, and then Finny
(38:46):
would go do his meetings and was so crucial that
Finny after Daniel Nash died, he stopped doing itinerant ministry
and just took a pastorate in like three or four
months because it was without that going before to open
it up in prayer, it was, you know, he couldn't
(39:08):
do it. And so I'm just I think the Holy
Spirit's teaching me about that. So that's my thought with that.
Corporate flow is Okay. Part of being a thermostat is
popping out in time. Right, We're not limited by time.
I can go into I can go into Sunday right now,
and I can take you know, I can whatever, take
(39:29):
the temperature and go, Okay, there's something there's a void
here in the spirit. I need to fill it. There's
something with you know, there's something withstanding, there's something unclean.
I need to deal with it. And we get to
do that. This is kingship. So I'm kind of learning
about that and practicing and sometimes getting it right, sometimes
going better. Luck next time, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Right, that's so good and and you know, that's a
really good word for somebody to even Virginia has been
doing this way longer than I have, and I've been
doing it for oh wow, eleven years now, and even
we hit walls and can't get where we think we're going,
(40:15):
or can't you know, experience everything that we think that
we should be able to, or you know, can't get
a breakthrough or whatever it is. So it's always is
your heart in a position of pressing. I'm going to
press and regardless of the outcome, God still loves me.
(40:35):
I'm still okay, you know, all of those things or
does it start degrading your value in God's eyes or
his ability or his willingness or you know, those are
the kinds of things that come and start pitting, you know,
and like acid rain on metal, it starts deteriorating. Right,
(40:58):
those are the things that we have to keep our
armor on. And remember God just might be speaking in
a different way. It's the process that shapes us, in
forms us and helps us as much as the you know,
getting that done. The whatever we're pressing forward to. The
focus is so.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
That's so good how he uses that to reveal open
or shame based identity in us, right, and so if
that's what it accomplishes, then He works all things together
for our good.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's always an honor to worship and minister to him
and to others. I mean, when we do it from
the heart, even though we don't it doesn't feel we
don't get the good feelings, then that's that's the highest trade.
But at the same time, if there's something I that
I need to learn in my growth, and you know,
(41:51):
I want to learn it too, so I'll let it
reveal what it needs to reveal in my identity that
needs to shift, I'll take the opportunity to minister to
him because he's worthy. And it's a higher trade because
I didn't get any feel goods from it, right, and
that's that's a purification. But Father, I want to learn
your ways. I want to mature and grow so that
(42:13):
when you hit the mark every time.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
You know in Virginia is the worship leader for all
things restored? And do you do you teach as well?
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Or is it mostly?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
I know you teach some, but most is it's you
split it between the other people, right, we rotate. Yeah,
So it's such a blessing when the person who is
worshiping is also teaching.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
I happen to belong to.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
A church where they're one of the pastors is also
the worship leader, and so he sees in the spirit
and he knows what's going on, and he knows where
he's going with his sermon, and he can pray us
right into the dimension that we need to be in,
or he can get us all worshiping up into that
dimension so that when he does release the word, we're
(43:05):
already we're all prepped, our primed, already there. And you know,
a lot of people don't have that ability. You know,
they're you know, three fast ones, two slow ones, and
then open it up and someone else walks up and
takes the stage and takes the microphone, and it's just
not the same, No, not the same.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
And it goes back to that corporate flow that we
talked about earlier, learning how to move as a body. Lord,
what are you doing with all of us instead of
each of our individual pieces.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Know, I've tasted of that to an extreme. And boy,
it's so effective in the spirit when you can move
as a corporate body with each other and with the Lord. Wow,
there's nothing like it.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
It's true. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
So if you're local in Jacksonville in Florida, you can
go visit all things restored and you can go to
that website and check that out and see Virginia in person. Otherwise,
go to Virginia Killingsworth dot com to collect.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Anything you want.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
She has books and CBS and then of course the
program that we talked about, the mentorship program Miracles are
normal course or the overshadowed. Do avail yourselves of that
because it's sitting under her teaching is such a blessing, so.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
You will love it.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
All right, Well, I think we need to land this plane.
Thank you so much again, Virginia. This has been another
great conversation. I love you, dear one.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I love you. It's always such a joy to talk
about him with you and just hang out. Any excuse
to hang out with you?
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Oh, thank you. Yeah, I might have to have you
teach again. She joined me in quantum capacity. I might
have to have her in Kings on Fire.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
We'll see. That was all right you guys. Until next time,
stay Spirit centered. Peace out. Hey there, SCB peeps.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
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Peace Out
If I have trouble like during you know, like maybe
during the week when I'm praying about it or when
I'm prepping that I've noticed a pattern that, oh, it's
always a struggle, and that's my clue. I've got to
get break through beforehand. And the Lord was reminding me
about Daniel Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome to the Spirit Centered Business Podcast. Well we blend
the spiritual with the practical for supernatural results. Now here's
your host, Berlyn Nuby.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Welcome back to part two with Virginia Killingsworth. And in
case you missed part one, definitely do that. We were
talking about the scalability of doing groups and especially this
during this time of transition in the body of Christ,
when we're searching for community. We're searching for people who
(00:58):
get us or people we can explore and go deeper
with God and and walk the journey of kind of
destruct deconstructing the old wine skin and stepping into the new.
So part one was really good. We went on, we
went to the cosmos and fact.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Didn't we Virginia, so we did.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Anytime?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Oh, I know, I know, it was fun. So I
want to really focus on exactly what people can expect
in your overshadowed group, like what, I know, you're only
into a few months under your belt by this time,
but you have some you have some good stories, and
I just want to give people a little taste of
(01:41):
what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well. I think one of one of my one of
my heart my goals is to really you know, there's
there's some great revelatory teaching out there right now. You
know that's really shifting things and shifting paradigms. But what
I've found, and I don't think I would have really
known this as much if I wasn't working with a
group of people like you know, Earthsuit to earth Suit
(02:05):
in a local you know, ecclesia, I don't think I
would have been as aware of this problem that people
have difficulty translating the concepts to real life. And so
to show people, Okay, what do these what does this
look like with skin on? And then the encouragement to
(02:28):
you know, because when you hear something new, you know
a lot of times you're like, yeah, you know, it resonates,
but you forget it. And you know, I have a
degree in secondary education, and I remember one of the
instructors saying people will learn, forget learn, forget and learn
forget before they finally remember. I've also heard that's maybe
seven times. I'm not sure which is true, but you know,
our brain shreds new stuff. And so I think to
(02:52):
have a group where you're you're you're going over, oh
did oh I heard so and so say this but
I didn't really understand it. And to be able to dialogue,
to ask questions, but also to be able to break
down for people. Okay, this is what this looks like practically,
and this is how this would look in your life.
(03:13):
This is how you apply it, and then let's do it.
Now you have homework, So I give a little homework
and okay, this is what you do this month to
make this concept that you heard and were excited about, uh,
to make it real and to understand how to how
to work it out. And another thing that happens is
(03:34):
that when you start doing that, things that are to
the contrary, whether it's familiar patterns and cycles and beliefs
or you know, other you know, other things that our
contrary start to come to the surface. So in the
in the framework of a group, you know you can
you can hold each other accountable, you can encourage each
other you know, you you see my junk, right, but
(03:57):
it's familiar to me, so I can't see it. But
everybody else, I'm sure does really well. And that's just
the nature of it. So in a safe atmosphere, we
can encourage and support each other, you know, not pointing
fingers or that judgy thing, but just in encouragement and questions.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
That's so good.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And I love that you said that you give homework,
and you know in my in my boot camps and
my you know programs, I do too.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Because here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You know, it's I think it's in James where it
says don't just be hearers of the word, would be doers.
You know, it's implementation. And from the beginning of when
I started my business in twenty twelve, I always say transformation.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Comes from implementation.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Doesn't matter what you're doing, You've got to do what
you're talking about or what you hear in your head,
because if you don't do it, if it doesn't make
sense in real life, then it's just you know, like
you said, your brain shreds it, it goes away. You know,
it's like I never want to be shelf help.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, no, no no, And you know, the parable of
the seeds, right, you know, the birds of the air. Right,
let's take those if we're not, if we're not implementing
it and helping each other, supporting each other, bringing it
back to our remembrance. I just was ministering somewhere yesterday
that I hadn't been for maybe a year or year
and a half or something, and you know, they were like, oh,
(05:23):
you know, kind of like, oh, we need we needed
to be reminded of this, you know, because they're kind
of in their little vein and this is this. This
doesn't contradict that, but it does go on that foundation
like come on, let's let's live out of heaven. Let's
do it. Let's do it from you know, from our
seat of rest in the heavenly realm instead of getting
(05:43):
bogged down in earth stuff. And they said, wow, we
really needed to you know, we had gotten, we had
gotten in our familiar what we needed to be reminded.
So I think in a group setting is really good
to do that, and it shows up in all of
us when it's like, oh, wow, I was I was
thinking way that I was used to thinking instead of
the way that I'm expanding.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So what is the format or the structure of your group.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Are you teaching?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Is it Q and A, is it a combo? Is
it do they have a like an agenda that their
roadmap to walk through?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
What does it look like for yours?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Well, you know, I'm kind of finding my way with
this too, because in the in the past, when I
would do groups, it would be very specific to a
you know, like an addiction group or a codependency here
back in the day, you know, And so this is
a little more open ended. So I'm kind of finding
my flow and I'm really trying to put my finger
on the pulse of what people need. So I had
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it the first one, I had a little more open
and it felt it felt like that they were kind
of not quite even sure. So I've filled in that
space a little bit, and I think as I do
that for a few times, I think then the dialogue
will start to come and start to flow. But I think,
you know, they didn't know each other, they weren't sure
(07:01):
of the format. So I've kind of shifted a little
bit to to filling up this, you know, having testimonies
of breakthroughs right from the from the past, you know,
from the past, class questions any you know, any bumps
in the road, you know, but I'll limit that time
so that's not all it is. And then I'll share
a little bit. We'll usually practice, you know, we're practicing
(07:25):
explaining and practicing some spiritual technologies, building spiritual structures into
which we make our decrees and our declarations, and to
practice it together. And then you know, usually Q and
A or you know, something like that at the end.
But I expect to be able to kind of step
back a little bit and let it flow more over time.
(07:45):
Mm hmm, I.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Hope, yeah, yeah, of course that sounds really good. So
what are people able to go back and watch the replay?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Then are you putting that in the group? In the forum?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I do put that in the group. Now. At first,
I was under the impression that people couldn't see anything
that before they joined the group, so I was reposting.
But then a couple of people last group told me
that they were able to see stuff that was posted
before they got in the group.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Oh yeah, definitely that software, and I mean we installed it,
so yes, I know what software that is, and yes
they can see anything that you've posted in the group.
And it doesn't matter if it's a year ago or whatever.
If it's in the group, they can get.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
To it and find out it was before they joined.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, so that's another reason why as a group facilitator,
you want to make sure that things are as organized
as possible so people can find things by topic and
all of that.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I know yours is just starting up.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
But for our audience, who is thinking about doing a group,
that's really good. So who is this Overshadowed group for?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I think it's really for anybody, which would be everybody,
but it would be for anybody that desires to birth
Heaven from earth. And the Overshadowed goes back many many
years to an encounter that I had with the Lord
in the early early days when I first was just
encountering the spirit, realm, you know, and the prophetic and
all that, you know, and I had this, I had
(09:22):
a just a supernatural encounter in worship and he gave
me a song and you know it was it was
from Luke. It was this the you know, the song
of when he overshadowed Mary. But the Lord was just
it was my cry to the Lord overshadowed me. I
want to be your womb on the earth. I didn't
have a grid for living out of heaven or any
of that. And then fast forward, so a number of
(09:44):
years later I had another it was it was in
worship as well, another supernatural encounter where I was I
was writing a song and his wings came in the
room overhead and gave me the download. And it had
to do with being overshadowed and bringing forth life in
places where death used to be. So that that fits
(10:04):
the transition that we were talking about, right, that the
age is the new thing being birthed. It's Revelation twelve, right,
that the Messiah coming from the womb of a woman,
but also the Son's being birthed from the womb of
the church, right, which is now a womb that's being
dismantled in you know, for the bigger, the bigger wine skin.
(10:25):
And so I'm not saying God's doing away with the
body of Christ, but you know what I mean, the structure.
So I think it's for anybody that desires to co
create with God from heaven to earth, starting here and
then moving outward. So you know, there's some people that
really their focuses on just getting a breakthrough in their
own soul or in their own family or with their children,
(10:46):
with their businesses. There's other people that you know, you know,
are in full time ministry and they they're contending for
you know, for cities and regions. So I think it's
it's for all of us to learn what this looks
like and to learn how to do it together.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
What age group?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
All ages? Now, so it's all women so far. Now
I didn't I didn't tell the men they couldn't join
that it is all females, but of all ages.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Okay, And I know you haven't really marketed very much,
but you still have a full house. So that's amazing.
God's hand is on it. That's so good. Yeah, awesome.
So any other tips that you would encourage people to
think about as they're coming into.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Your group or any group.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I just think, you know, just just be open, right,
be open, don't be afraid to communicate. I think one
of the things that the old wineskin taught us is,
you know, you sit down, you be quiet. Do you
know you go into spectator mode. Literally when I year's
a go, I was leading worship at this church and
there was this book on the by the soundboard. It
(12:05):
said how to be a good Sheep that was the
name of the buck, and I was like, oh my goodness,
you know, and so part of unlearning that is, okay,
let's all find our voice. This is a group. Okay,
this is Virginia Killingsworth's group, cause I'm gonna sit and
listen to her like a good sheep. And if that's
where we're starting, that's okay. But I want to encourage people, Okay,
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find your voice and when other when people asked, have
questions or you know, have testimonies, or hit maybe hit
a brick wall, Okay, what do you have to say?
And to learn to flow together as a as a
corporate where you know, we're Americans were used to thinking
we're individuals, and this is something that you know in
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ecclesias we do run into sometimes in our local body. It'll,
you know, will people it'll be hard to cultivate. Okay,
I can go in and have an encounter with the
Lord regardless of what's going on corporately. But what is
going on corporately? Is there a corporate flow? And are
we even asking that question right? Learning to think both
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individually and corporately. So I would just like to, you know,
I would want to encourage people, you know, find your voice,
be who you are, and then every you know, everybody's
piece is important as we flow together. Sensitivity to Holy Spirit,
sensitivity to each other. It's not all about me, right,
you know, is it's I'm an important piece of this
(13:31):
equation and you don't have to hide.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah. I think that's important to understand that. I mean,
if you're in crisis mode, that's probably not a great
place to step in and make the overtake the group
and make it be about you.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Right right, And I do. I always set time limits,
you know. You know, sometimes I'll say, okay, how many
people have testimonies or questions from the you know, homework
from the you know, since the last time, and then okay,
let's divide there four of you. Let's divide that by
fifteen minutes. You each have whatever you know, and then
you know, gently force it so nobody feels shut down.
(14:11):
But yet there's if people aren't sensitive because of their
they're the intensity of their own pain or situation, then
we're just gonna, you know, we'll help them.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
M And so I think that that rising to the
corporate flow and finding, you know, because typically we're in
our own stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
And the corporate flow.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
To me, this is the way I've experienced it is,
it goes up higher. Like ever, it's over everybody's heads
in the church, there's a there's a stream flowing, right,
so everybody's in their own bubble here, and you have
to kind of get up into the flow of what's
the corporate flow of what God wants to do here.
Any any tips or tricks on how to do that
(14:55):
or how to like put out your spiritual feelers and
your antenna to to find that higher corporate flow, Do.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Maybe I am explaining it, Okay, I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
No, that's a great I'd never thought of it that way,
but I think I think it's very accurate and very
true because if if I can have my own little
encounter with God, regardless of what's going on, you know,
it could be oppressive or whatever, but I'm one spirit
with Him, so I can commune with Him even in
the midst of all that.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But I think the first thing is just having a
grid even asking the question. I don't think we've ever
been taught to ask that question, what does God doing? Okay,
I know what God's doing with you. You're having a
rough day, or you're having an awesome day, or you're
on fire, you're a king on fire? Reallyn I am,
(15:48):
but what is God doing corporately? And I think the
first thing is really just teaching people that that's even
a thing, and then okay, take the corporate temperature. And
then I think the second thing would be Okay, you're
my friend Connie says this, and I was praying about
this today. We're we're a thermo. I mean, we're a thermostat,
not a thermometer. So then you know, yeah, first is
(16:12):
even Yeah, so first is even asking the question and
having that thought. But then once I take the temperature,
it's not like, oh, you know, it's so oppressive in here.
It's like, no, I'm a thermostat, father, how do I
change that? And then we can easily do it together.
Whereas if ninety five percent of the people are oblivious
(16:34):
and five people are going something right, you know, you
may or may not steer the ship. So I'm the
same is true in an in person gathering or in
a group. I think it could apply either way.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, when you said thermostat or I'm sorry, I'm having
color issues.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I don't know why my camera keeps slipping back and forth.
I just need to be still.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
But when you said that, what I was thinking was
reha stat because flipping from our soul to spirit is
a real stat.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
It's not like an on off switch.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
To me, this is the way I've experienced it is
I can be mostly in soul, half and half or
mostly in spirit, right, and so typically if I'm in
soul at that end, it's all about me, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I'm just being honest, like, it's just just whatever. I'm
going through, what I need.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I'm seeking the Lord on you know, I'm holding onto
his tassels.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
You know, I'm whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It's it's I I I me, me me. But as
I flip over into spirit, then I can start seeing
what he sees and seeing what's important to him, which
is if you're in a group, it's probably not all
about you. I'm just saying, yeah, hopefully you're right.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And the cool saying is you can outgive him right
once you get above it and your soul is blessed,
your soul is restored. You know you can't. So it's
all encompassing because when it is the one you know
running the show, then soul is soul gets the benefits.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Soul does get the benefits, but sometimes she doesn't know that.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
It just still reaches ubber and grabs the steering wheel.
I'm like, okay, that's it. You backseat.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
No, you can't even be in the passenger seat.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So I think that that just being aware of the
shift from soul to spirit will help you get into
the flow of a corporate if the if you're.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
In a group and you're kind of okay, So here's
another thing. No matter where you are.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
In the world, we can be together in spirit. So yeah,
it looks like we're separate on zoom screens, but in
the spirit, we could literally be all in the same room.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
And I think that that concept do we.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Forget about because we feel so individualized, you know, and
our view outside of the zoom screen is so different
from each other, and we're concerned about this rather than
coming up and meeting in a place.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Right, And that's a great example of how we're learning,
you know, how the children of this world are wiser
than the children of light. You know, you got the
witches and all those people doing all that stuff, right,
and yet we're you know, we're just now talking about
this and learning to operate as spirit beings that are
not confined to the limitations of our earth suit. So
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when we really you know, and and their counterfeit is
so so small compared to what they have right their soul.
I mean, they don't even have made a life in
Christ's spirit. Their soul can only leave their body for
a short time with the help of a demonic spirit
right and making all these trades right, But we we
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are spirit beings right that are encased in the protective
bubble of Holy Spirit. There are no limitations. We can
like the wind, right, those that are born of the
spirit are like the wind. So I mean the real
so far eclipses the counterfeit, which is why the enemy
doesn't want us to know there's a real and he
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doesn't want us to want us to know that it's
for us. And so I think these zoom groups are
a great way. And you know, I haven't really started
doing this very much with this overshadowed group, but I
have another prayer group that is very international, and we
are starting to tap into these kinds of things, you know,
because we've been together longer, and it's you know, just
(20:40):
it's a different focus. But I think any group is
really is really conducive to what you're saying. Okay, how
do we move together as a team, both for ourselves
and for our nations and the nations of the Earth,
or you know topics. I remember hearing Ian Clayton say
one time, you know, he was talking about Fukushima. He goes,
(21:02):
the earth Man, humanity has no answer for this. The
sons are gonna have to step up and answer this. So,
you know, situations like that that seem like Earthly Catch
twenty two's, I think little groups and pockets of us
can rise up and go, hey, let's go, let's go
do let's go do this.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Have you heard of the telepathy tapes. It's kind of
kind of a thing that's going around. Yeah. So this
these parents of autistic children finally found out that the
autistic children are literally meeting together in the spirit and
(21:43):
they're having conversations and they're doing all of these things,
and it's yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
So it's there.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
They're called they're they're the non verbal, non talker autistic kids.
And there's this board that they can start using to
help them speak and you know, tell people what's on
their mind. And for so many years, the parents have
been told by the doctors and by the medical system
that they're not really home.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
There's there's no one there. You know, you can you
can live on.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Them, you can do this, but they're not really you know,
they're but that's totally not true.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
They they are there.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
They're very aware, they're very creative, they're very brilliant. They
put pieces together and puzzles together, just not in the
way that we do it, because they're not doing it
in the physical world. They're doing it in the spirit realm.
And so to the scientific world.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
This is like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And to all of us who've been doing it for years,
we're like, yeah, hello, so.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I've not heard of that, but wow, wow, yeah, yeah,
it's a cloob what doctor Aiko Hormann says. She says
science is finally catching up with the.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Bible, right right, right, exactly example of that, Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
So, I've I've watched a couple interviews.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
They have a podcast literally called Telepity Tapes. But then
also one of the founders or the doctor, I don't
know who, the guy was connected to it somehow was
was on other people's podcasts.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
That I was in.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You know, they're the ones that I follow, and so
that's how I got hooked up to this. And yeah,
it was like it's just like you sit there, You're
gripping your seat and going, I just want to say
something because like, don't you know this. The people in
church need to hear this. They need they need to
know that we can do this. We can meet in
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the spirit that the Lord bedigned us this way. That is,
you know, that is a communication tool for us to do.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And yeah, so what groups are just like kindergarten of that, right,
it's just technically, oh and okay, first sem the natural,
then in the spirit, if you can do this using
a zoom screen, then hey, how about without that? Without
that or you know, maybe that's maybe that's what he's
doing one of the things that he's doing. Even is
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the personal benefits of it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I think my audience may have heard this, but I
don't know if I ever shared this with you, Virginia
is I We used to do that. We used to
practice this was probably twenty twenty time Framish we had
an Ecclesia group who met. We met at eight thirty.
We met in the spiritual room in our war room
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and we would give each other something or tell something something,
or you know, just watch what goes on. And then
at nine o'clock we would get on zoom and say,
you know, did you get what I gave you? Or
did you hear what I said? You know, we would
practice these things.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I love it, and yeata is it pretty?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Did it?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Was it pretty cohesive?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well? You know, it's hard when you're first starting out,
and I think that we had we had some not
really good seers, so we were doing the absolute best
we can.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
But here's a cool story that did come out of it.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I was in my eight thirty time in the Spirit
and I saw one of the girls in the group
under the table and I'm like, what is she doing
under the table? And I'm looking down, I'm like, she's
just sitting there a cross legged under the table and
I couldn't tell what she was doing. Well, so, anyway,
at nine o'clock, when we were saying, okay, why did
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you see what she and she's like, I don't know.
It just felt like there was something over my head.
It was dark and all I could see were these
vertical lines all around me.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
That is so good.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, yeah, that was that was pretty hilarious. So I
wish I had a group that we're dedicated, because here's
the thing. You can't just do this for a couple months.
This is something you have to be committed to working
on and pray to sing over the long haul. And
you can't just say, ah, yeah, not this week, I'm
too busy, or you know, miss it and you know
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all of that stuff. You've got to be committed because
that it really takes practice because it's so outside of
our normal three D reum obviously literally out of our
three D realm that we have to commit to practicing.
So I have not found another group to do it with,
but I'd be interested.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well, you know, I do think and we've experienced that
both with our uh now with our the other group,
not not the Overshadow Grip. The other group is early
in the morning, and so there tends to be not
as much. Oh I'm busy. I can't do it as
as our local you know, but just consistency is just
like it's just herding cats. And I thought when I first,
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you know, when we first started, I thought, maybe it's
like a local thing. Maybe it's something in the area,
you know whatever. But I've been talking to other people
and they're like, no, it's across the board. And I
think it's I think it's what the enemy is doing
to fragment and causes to be distracted and disconnected. And
it's the you know, the tyranny of the urgent, right,
the good where we can't commit to one thing where oh,
(27:13):
you know, we've got we've got overwhelmed because we want
to do everything. You know, we got fomo and all
this stuff in all these things, so we're not doing
any of them well, and we're not we're not really committed.
So I think that's really one of the things that
the that the adversary is doing in the infancy of
this movement is just to scatter and fragment.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And distracted, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Distracted with the good. Yeah, yeah, really focused on the
on the you know, the hundredfold, right.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
And you know, since this is spirit centered business in
the business world and in in my industry, you know,
the the gurus would say, that's why you price things high,
that's why because if people are paying for it, they'll
show up.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Oh that's good, which is true.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I mean, if I'm paying a lot for something, I'm
not going to just miss it right.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Right, It's going to be priority, and it's going to
attract the people that can make it priority exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And so it's the opposite of what the church is,
you know, the church is like we're just going to
give everything free, or how much can I get for free?
Or what?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
You know?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
What can I do for free? What's not going to
cost me too much? What are they not going to
expect me to make too much of a commitment? You know, right,
what's the littlest I can do? And it's the opposite
of the Kingdom, you.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Know, absolutely, you know absolutely, that's really good. Yeah, I
mean you know we I've had a grid for okay,
when when people need to sew in right that I
hadn't connected it with the priority piece.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, it's well, it's your it's the treasure versu in
the Bible, where your where your heart lies, your treasure is,
or the opposite way around, where your treasure is your
heart lives. It's the same thing like if your if
your treasure is there, your heart will.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Be there, right right. So it's it's okay, I'm gonna
buy you know, fifty pieces of candy or one.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know, say I'm going to go to Starbucks and
get a latte every day, but for the that four
dollars a day times thirty days a month, you know,
for one hundred and twenty dollars, I could join this
program and do something that's eternal. Yeah, that's really just
don't think that that way, you know, that's so good. Yeah, well, translating,
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I have just I wrote down two different things translating
the concepts into real life, which I you know, so critical,
and I think that the church doesn't serve that well
and that's probably why why they're coming to us as outliers,
you know, to be to you taught on how to
make that translation. You have any more thoughts on that concept?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, I do. You know, one of the things the
Lord is he's really been speaking to me a lot
about the four faces of God, Lion, ox, equal, Man,
and you know the you know lions, the kingly, the oxes,
the priestly, the the the eagle is the Word and
the man is the Word made flesh. And so you know,
I'm actually going to be breaking this down a little
bit for my for my group tonight. But the you know,
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the the kingly and the priestly. It's the order of Melchizedek. Right,
it's not the levitical priesthood, it's the it's a heavenly priesthood.
You know. He made us kings and priest after his order,
which is order, you know, order of Melchizak. So we
we legislate and we overshadow from the heavenly realm, but
it manifest in the earth.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And then the word and the word made flesh, which
is doing the works of the kingdom, are primarily earthly,
but they have their source in heaven. And so I
think I know for me, and this is probably true
for most of us in past seasons. You know, I
grew up Baptist, so I knew about doing the stuff,
you know, you know you do, you do all this stuff,
(31:12):
But it wasn't sourced in heaven, right, it wasn't. I
wasn't doing what I saw the Father doing because I
thought he stopped speaking a long time ago, right, And
I didn't know I was seated there. So I was
doing a lot of really good stuff and did not
have very much fruit at all, you know, just on
that religious hamster wheel. And then you have like we
just talked about. You know, we have the we have
(31:33):
those a lot of people that are living out of
the heavenly realm. But I think people are having trouble
understanding how that connects. So one of the things I'm
really going to be working with my group on is
the connecting of the four faces. How to operate in
the kingly and the priestly and how how does that
manifest in the earth through the Word and the Word
(31:54):
made flesh.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I love that, Yeah, because they have to go together
in order. You know, Jesus was the lamb Slaine from
before the foundation of the world, but in the fullness
of time, he wrapped himself in human flesh. He came
and did what God called him to do in the
earth realm. So I think it's timely for where you know,
I think where we are in this movement, and I
(32:17):
believe it is a movement, right, It's an awakening, it's
a movement, the beginning of a of a wine skin,
and I think that's it's a timely message for where
we are.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I think you might have an old video either on
All Things Restored YouTube channel or on your own somewhere,
because I saw some of that you're teaching on that.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
When I didn't really know what it.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Was at all, I'm like, let's see if Virginia taught something,
because whatever Virginia teaches is good.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
That it was really good.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
But about two months ago I actually got a word,
and it turned out to be a word for not
only for myself but for another person in that I
kind of told it a little bit wider, and so
it was kind of like a little bit of a
my stream of influence word. And it was about being
the ox, having the putting on the ox face because
(33:15):
the the ox you're you're not muzzling the ox. The
ox gets fed, and all it needs to do is
keep stepping. The Lord is right here yoked, and you
just have to face forward and keep stepping forward.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
And what the Lord showed.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Me was that the yoke that was across my shoulders
and the Lord's shoulders on his side, it was this heavy,
big timber beam right on my side. It was a
big piece of styropham painted to look like a heavy
timber beam. I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Oh yeah, perfect, I know, great.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
That is what do Yeah, yeah, All you need to
do is just know that he's right here and just
keep stepping forward and just keep make sure you're right
here with him and step forward.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Now, keep living as a dead guy, right, let him
let him wear you like skin. Right, he's doing the
hard work.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah. Yeah, it was so good.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Such a good picture Berlin, and that's so true.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm looking forward to that. I'm
looking forward to being able to join the group. It's
on Wednesday nights and I have some Bible studies going
on Wednesday nights, but we're I think we're taking off
for the summer, so I might be able to join
you guys for the summer.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That'll be good, that would be wonderful.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
So again, the group is called Overshadowed and you can
find it on Virginia Killingsworth dot com. And it's part of.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Do you want me to say it? Or do you
want to say it?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Do you have more to say than about the three piers?
And no, no, that's it's your oky Okay. So it's
it's part of her three tiered mentoring and the first tier.
As you know, she's she's a terrific client.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
So this is why I know this inside. And notice
because I've been coaching.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
There would be no class or anything without Briland.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I'm like, why is she telling the story about someone else?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Like, no, it's because I know it.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Oh it's the first Here is a DIY do it yourself.
It's her Miracles Made Normal book and the online course
which is absolutely terrific, you guys, And I think we
talked about this way back in episode forty nine, way
way back when the book first came out. Let me
(35:40):
tell you guys. I got my hands on that book
and I'm like, oh, someone needs to teach this.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
And then I got about halfway through, I'm like, I
need to teach this. And I'm like, Virginia, can I
teach this?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
And she goes, I'm teaching this. Okay, good at least someone.
So she has an online course which is absolutely phenomenal,
all of co creating with God. And so that is
the first tier. And then the second tier is this
group that we've been talking about overshadowed. So it would
(36:10):
be helpful to have read the book or gone through
the online course, but you don't have to. But this
is an interaction, interactive live group that you can chat
to each other during between meetings and then obviously meet
live and have her do the teaching in Q and
A and you challenges and things like that that are
(36:30):
going on. Testimonies from the time before. All of that
kind of stuff is the live and the third Tier
is coming soon. We'll talk about that. We'll have you
back on the show and we can talk about the
third tier.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
You know, I loved any excuse to hang out with
you for lynn Oh.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
I know, we have good conversations. I love it.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, So we did cover a lot of ground today.
We talked about accessing that corporate flow as well. When
you're in a group, I think it's so important us
to tune our spiritual senses, get our rias stat moreover
into spirit And like Connie says, you're a thermostat and
not a thermometer. You know, you do set the temperature
(37:14):
of how much interaction you're going to do.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
And I think that's important. Any other thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Well, I think that's part of kingship, you know. And
I would you know, and I'm still growing in this,
but I'm getting a little better, you know. I would
do great, you know, like leading worship or whatever. If
it was wide open, It's like whoa, you know, this
is fun. But if it was if there was something
going on, I wouldn't always be able to discern or
(37:43):
see what it was, or know what to do about it,
or have the omp to press through it. And that's
that's kingship. And so you know, that was I'm you know,
I always love to just flow with the spirit, and
that part's easy. But that dominion and that authority is
something in God's having to work in me, both just
in my in my own kingship, but also you know,
(38:05):
in the wisdom of understanding. Okay, this is how this works.
And and just teaching learned. This is just recent I've learned,
you know, when I'm preparing for like worship or teaching
or something like that, if I have trouble like during
you know, like maybe during the week when I'm praying
about it or when I'm prepping that, that I've noticed
(38:25):
a pattern that, oh, it's always a struggle, and that's
my clue. I've got to get break through beforehand. And
the Lord was reminding me about Daniel Nash who always
went before Charles Finny in the Second Great Awakening and
prayed and travailed until the breakthrough came, and then Finny
(38:46):
would go do his meetings and was so crucial that
Finny after Daniel Nash died, he stopped doing itinerant ministry
and just took a pastorate in like three or four
months because it was without that going before to open
it up in prayer, it was, you know, he couldn't
(39:08):
do it. And so I'm just I think the Holy
Spirit's teaching me about that. So that's my thought with that.
Corporate flow is Okay. Part of being a thermostat is
popping out in time. Right, We're not limited by time.
I can go into I can go into Sunday right now,
and I can take you know, I can whatever, take
(39:29):
the temperature and go, Okay, there's something there's a void
here in the spirit. I need to fill it. There's
something with you know, there's something withstanding, there's something unclean.
I need to deal with it. And we get to
do that. This is kingship. So I'm kind of learning
about that and practicing and sometimes getting it right, sometimes
going better. Luck next time, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Right, that's so good and and you know, that's a
really good word for somebody to even Virginia has been
doing this way longer than I have, and I've been
doing it for oh wow, eleven years now, and even
we hit walls and can't get where we think we're going,
(40:15):
or can't you know, experience everything that we think that
we should be able to, or you know, can't get
a breakthrough or whatever it is. So it's always is
your heart in a position of pressing. I'm going to
press and regardless of the outcome, God still loves me.
(40:35):
I'm still okay, you know, all of those things or
does it start degrading your value in God's eyes or
his ability or his willingness or you know, those are
the kinds of things that come and start pitting, you know,
and like acid rain on metal, it starts deteriorating. Right,
(40:58):
those are the things that we have to keep our
armor on. And remember God just might be speaking in
a different way. It's the process that shapes us, in
forms us and helps us as much as the you know,
getting that done. The whatever we're pressing forward to. The
focus is so.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
That's so good how he uses that to reveal open
or shame based identity in us, right, and so if
that's what it accomplishes, then He works all things together
for our good.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's always an honor to worship and minister to him
and to others. I mean, when we do it from
the heart, even though we don't it doesn't feel we
don't get the good feelings, then that's that's the highest trade.
But at the same time, if there's something I that
I need to learn in my growth, and you know,
(41:51):
I want to learn it too, so I'll let it
reveal what it needs to reveal in my identity that
needs to shift, I'll take the opportunity to minister to
him because he's worthy. And it's a higher trade because
I didn't get any feel goods from it, right, and
that's that's a purification. But Father, I want to learn
your ways. I want to mature and grow so that
(42:13):
when you hit the mark every time.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
You know in Virginia is the worship leader for all
things restored? And do you do you teach as well?
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Or is it mostly?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
I know you teach some, but most is it's you
split it between the other people, right, we rotate. Yeah,
So it's such a blessing when the person who is
worshiping is also teaching.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
I happen to belong to.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
A church where they're one of the pastors is also
the worship leader, and so he sees in the spirit
and he knows what's going on, and he knows where
he's going with his sermon, and he can pray us
right into the dimension that we need to be in,
or he can get us all worshiping up into that
dimension so that when he does release the word, we're
(43:05):
already we're all prepped, our primed, already there. And you know,
a lot of people don't have that ability. You know,
they're you know, three fast ones, two slow ones, and
then open it up and someone else walks up and
takes the stage and takes the microphone, and it's just
not the same, No, not the same.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
And it goes back to that corporate flow that we
talked about earlier, learning how to move as a body. Lord,
what are you doing with all of us instead of
each of our individual pieces.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Know, I've tasted of that to an extreme. And boy,
it's so effective in the spirit when you can move
as a corporate body with each other and with the Lord. Wow,
there's nothing like it.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
It's true. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
So if you're local in Jacksonville in Florida, you can
go visit all things restored and you can go to
that website and check that out and see Virginia in person. Otherwise,
go to Virginia Killingsworth dot com to collect.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Anything you want.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
She has books and CBS and then of course the
program that we talked about, the mentorship program Miracles are
normal course or the overshadowed. Do avail yourselves of that
because it's sitting under her teaching is such a blessing, so.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
You will love it.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
All right, Well, I think we need to land this plane.
Thank you so much again, Virginia. This has been another
great conversation. I love you, dear one.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I love you. It's always such a joy to talk
about him with you and just hang out. Any excuse
to hang out with you?
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Oh, thank you. Yeah, I might have to have you
teach again. She joined me in quantum capacity. I might
have to have her in Kings on Fire.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
We'll see. That was all right you guys. Until next time,
stay Spirit centered. Peace out. Hey there, SCB peeps.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
I want to give a huge shout out and deep
appreciation and thanks to Candace Benton. She has become a
super sponsor for the Spirit Centered Business Show, So I
would appreciate you helping me in sending blessings and abundance
back to her. Thank you so much, Candace, and you
are well loved.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Thank you for listening to Spirit Centered Business with Berlin Nuby.
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