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September 19, 2025 59 mins
236: Pt. 1 Angels & Our Heavenly Reality | Dr. Robert RodichWelcome to an “Out there” episode!

Ever feel like you’re stuck in a spiritual holding pattern—knowing there’s more, but not quite sure how to access it? You’re not alone. In this episode I go deep with Doc Rodich into the spiritual mechanics of identity, authority, and quantum entanglement (yes, really). If you’ve been wrestling with questions like “What am I really here for?” or “Why do I feel like I’m supposed to be royalty but I’m living like a peasant?”—this conversation is your wake-up call. It’s time to stop playing small and start operating from the heavenly blueprint you were born with.

This episode matters now more than ever because the spiritual fog is thick, and clarity is currency. If you’re ready to ditch the watered-down theology and step into your divine assignment with boldness, this one’s for you.

HIGHLIGHTS:
  • You’re not lower than angels—you’re royalty. Learn why Psalm 8:5 was mistranslated and how that shaped generations of spiritual self-doubt. (00:02:13)
  • Angels see you as royalty, even if you don’t. Doc shares firsthand stories of angelic encounters that’ll make you rethink your spiritual status. (00:07:06)
  • You were made for government, not survival. Bralynn breaks down how believers are meant to legislate heaven on earth—not just “get by.” (00:18:16)
  • Quantum physics meets kingdom identity. Discover how quantum oscillation and entanglement explain your spiritual authority. (00:21:30)
  • Your atoms are already interacting with heaven. Doc explains how your body oscillates 3,500 times per second—and what that means for your spiritual reach. (00:22:13)
  • You’re not the resistance—you’re the plan. Bralynn reframes the narrative: we’re not fighting from victimhood, we’re executing heaven’s strategy from the Victory in Christ! (00:40:13)
  • Creation is waiting for you to speak. Hear how plants respond to human interaction—and why your voice carries more weight than you think. (00:42:00)
  • The spiritual realm is visible—you’re just not tuned in. Doc reveals how our limited visual spectrum filters out what’s actually all around us. (00:24:09)
  • You’re on assignment, not just passing through. Your scroll was written before you were born. Time to read it and run with it. (00:29:24)
  • Stop outsourcing your identity. Doc challenges listeners to hear directly from God about their purpose, instead of relying on secondhand theology. (00:38:08)


BIO:
Dr. Robert Rodich, Ph.D. has over thirty years of experience doing precise wellness evaluations for his clients. It is clear that today’s food sources no longer contain optimal levels of vital nutrients therefore having a plan in place that is precise to your exact nutritional need is vital in these challenging times.What makes Doc Rodich unique is that the testing method he uses works off of the frequencies projected by your voice.

This methodology has proven to be just as accurate as if you were standing in front of him in his office. The obvious takeaway is that you need not travel all the way to South Alabama to benefit from his testing unless you just want to enjoy the wonderful white sandy beaches of Gulf Shores and Orange beach.

LINK for DOC RODICH:—Check out Doc’s Store and More: http://DocRodich.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Recently a lot of people are catching the concept of
bringing your spirit form so that your spirit is in charge.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I always put my spirit in the driver's seat.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Okay, same, Yeah. Well, I'm sitting out on my back porch,
which is my little main area of revelation, because that's
where the Lord showed me the fabric of reality, and
all kinds of things just run before my eyes. I
saw the flaming six foot outline of my soul. There,
all kinds of stuff. So I said, okay, Lord, we

(00:32):
know the soul likes to be a gatekeeper because the
soul is in charge of most of our wives. What
can I do? And he said, well, son, when you
call your spirit forward, speak to your spirit and say, spirit,
I align you with God's Holy fire, with his glory,
with his light, and with his living water.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Welcome to the Spirit Centered Business Podcast. Will we blend
the spiritual with the for supernatural results. Now here's your
host Berlin Nuby.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Hello, they're welcome to Spirit Centered Business. I'm your host
billinn Nuby. And look who's back in the house, Doctor
Robert Rooditch, Welcome back. I'm so I'm glad you're here.
We're we're gonna. The audience will have just seen, not
just but recently seen the three part series that we
did all about your energy medallions. And I've got two

(01:31):
different ones on today.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I've got the.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
The generation two Gentwo Mazarath and the next gen Taurus Vegas.
I had been having Energy on and I just switched
it to Vegas. I said, well, let's see if that
makes a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
So anyway, the audience will have seen that. But Doc,
you and I talked about some fringy kind of stuff,
especially in part two, and I'm like, let's.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Just talk about some stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
It might not have anything to do with spirit centered business,
but I have some questions and you have some answers.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I just know it.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I'll do my best, all right.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Well, my first, my first big beef, or like, I
want to just set the record straight. I want to
get a I just I want to get someone else's opinion.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Other than mine on this is in I have.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I have three different scripture references, and you know, I'm
a researcher, and I love going back to the original
Greek and the Hebrew and saying what this word really
meant and what was the context of the you know,
the hum the homolytics, as far as how do you
teach it? How do you understand it? But then also
the hermeneutics as far as what what was the cultural reference?

(02:54):
Like how how would they.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Have read it?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Because the Bible wasn't written to us, right, it was
written for us, but not to us.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
It was written to them.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
So anyway, I have heard and I think I know why,
but I want to run this by you. I have
heard people say in church that we were made a
little lower than the angels. And let me flesh this
out with you. So do you do you think that

(03:27):
there are hierarchies of spiritual beings? An angel is like messenger.
That's a pretty low one versus like the principalities, powers,
thrones and dominions that Paul says we fight against.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Would you say that.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's I mean? And now I hope your audience understands
that you did not send me a list of questions.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
This is yeah, he's just.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Saying this, okay. So let me start out in general
by saying that God's word, the way it really appeared
in its original language, is an incredible manuscript to us
about his love and his nature and where we're going

(04:17):
in this particular age, and you know, all that kind
of thing. And having said that, I don't care what
anybody says. You don't change who Jesus is and was,
what he did, all those kinds of things. Those are
written in stone. Does it matter if the Masonic Order
got involved and you know, lefs certain things out and

(04:40):
all that, Jesus is still the one and only way
to get to to the fall. Okay, So sorry, all
the other well meaning folks out there, you're not going
to have the frequency based to put your hand on
that biometric scanner that lets you into the proper realms.
You're just not going to have it about Jesus as
your lorgency.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Absolutely totally agree.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
So that being said, the more I grow in the
lord and folks, let's be honest, we should never stop growing.
You know, just like how sad it is that we're
having chat things write things for us when we actually
used to have to think and know how to speak,
you know, I mean it's like, oh my gosh, you know,
what's this next generation or two even going to be

(05:23):
capable of? Who knows? Right? But things out there aren't
really as we have been taught. In many cases, there
are all kinds of hierarchies. There are probably created beings
with it. And I'll call it a realm, meaning more
of a location. And I'm sure there are different dimensions,

(05:45):
but the way we look at dimensions, in the way
Heaven looks at dimensions may be different. Okay, when we
think of a dimension as like, okay, we're in that
dimension and everything else doesn't really matter because we're in
that dimension at the time. Well, when things when you're
outside of space in time, who knows how things really look? Okay,
who knows how the interaction of thought and voices and

(06:08):
different things, the speed by which they work, the protocols
that they follow. Those are things that we're just getting
just a little bit of a sip of taste of
something about how those things really are. For instance, you
can't put it into years, but going back perhaps if
we could, in an earth years billions of years. We

(06:32):
don't know how many classes have created beings that God made,
some look exactly like us, Angels that, according to some
who have had experiences traveling directly to Heaven, can actually
change forms.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Absolutely. I've witnessed that.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
You know, I mean yeah, you know. I mean, you know,
one time, this particular angel looks just like a human,
the next time he looks like a chef truck.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I mean, I haven't seen that one, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
So I mean, you know, we what I'm saying is
is that we don't we don't know. So the first
thing when I when because there are several scriptures that
refer to what you're talking about being made a little
lower than the angels.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Well yeah, and I want to go specifically. I have
three different ones that I kind of pursed out, but
I just want to get like your opinion on if
there's different Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I believe this is this is my take on it.
In the way that three D planet Earth is formatted
right now, the way that things function mm hmm. We
can't do everything that the angels do because they can
go back and forth between realm's dimensions, if there really
are any, they can do all kinds of things. They

(07:54):
can come and you know lower. And I one time
we were traveling up in Tennessee, and and we were
at a Starbuck and this really tall gentleman that had
a shaved head. We would say that he looked African American,
but he was still very light, but he had kind
of an odd top on that A real big dude

(08:15):
opened the door force to go into a Starbucks. We
turn around and he's gone, and there was reformed to
go wow. And so we know that that was an angel.
And my wife asked what his name was, and it
was George Mason. And there's a university like that, but

(08:35):
that's what his name was, George Mason. Because I mean,
we looked all over, we even add the Starbucks people,
look at the video cam and everything. I mean, it
was crazy. He shouldn't know. He was out in the
middle of kind of you know, like a Starbucks, out
in the middle of nowhere, so to speak, a big
parking lot, just two or three cars around, nobody left.
You could I could have seen the guy walking for

(08:57):
ten minutes if he was walking. So we know that
angels can do things that, at least at the present moment,
that we can all. So you have a hard time,
I believe, scripturally, reconciling us being made very closely to
God's image with before the Fall many of the attributes,

(09:17):
much as family would have similar attributes, and then turning
around and saying that we're just a really low class
compared to angels. And that's not what you said, but
you see what I'm saying. So I think the context
is is in our present form, because of the fall
in Eden, that we can't do the same things that

(09:39):
they do. And thankfully, you know, we're interdependent on each other.
There's things that they look at us. For instance, angels
look at us as royalty, but yet we don't act
like it. But you know, those who've had experiences with
angels are just flabbergasted because they treat us like we're
you know, like the prince or the prince of Buckingham

(10:02):
Palace or something like that, you know, and it's it's
like why you know, well, because you're because in heaven
you're royalty, right. So I think that you're right in
saying that so many of those things have a context,
and so at the present time we need to be
honest about the physicality that we have. However, one of

(10:23):
the things that we're learning is is it because we
are a completely new creation in Christ Jesus, when we're
born from above of water and spirit, we're still kind
of learning how that new creation functions and operates. And
so you know that that may not apply fully like

(10:44):
it once did before we started. You know all this.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Oh that's true, yeah, because it says we won't know
who we will how fully what we are becoming. But
then it also says, as he is, so are we
in this world?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
So yeah, I mean there's a I want to go
back you.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
You were saying that the Lord made family members, and
so to me, some ranks, maybe angels, maybe some other
spiritual being, some rank is very much like us right there.
They would be like our older siblings, right, because they
were made first, you know. But essentially if they can

(11:28):
walk among us and we can, we can entertain them unawares,
such as the example that you gave, then they must
look like us, right, I have.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Seen them, or they can at least maybe take the
form if they don't in general look like us.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Right right, I yeah, I hear that, But then I
wanted to just look at I think that the and
the reason that I'm I'm saying this is because I
think that let me, let me just parse out these
and then then I'll come back around to what I think. Okay,
So in this is Psalm eighty five, where it says

(12:04):
we were made a little bit lower and the original
is in Hebrew, so it says Lohem. And we know
that Loheim is both singular for Yahweh God but also
plural for the little g gods. And we see that
in Psalms eighty two to one, and it says Eloheim

(12:25):
has taken his place in the midst of Loheim. So
Yahweh God, the one and the most High God, most High,
has taken his place among the divine council of other
little g gods. And then that was because the Deuteronomy
thirty two when he established them across the seventy nations

(12:46):
and the whole table of Nations and all of that.
And so Psalm eighty two is where he's saying, no,
you didn't you didn't judge well, and so he's calling
him on the carpet and he said, now you're going
to die like men. So that word lo can both
be used for Yahweh God but also for little g gods.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
That makes sense. So far am I am? I tracking?

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
So far, I mean I know exactly what you're talked about.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
True, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
So in Genesis six two, this is where the Bene
or ben Loheim, the sons of God came down and
found the daughters of men attractive, and they you know,
pro created and they had the Nephelene and all of that.

(13:31):
But that word Lohem in the Septuagent was translated theos,
so it's literally theos meaning God, sons.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Of God Yahweh God.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
And then Psalm eighty two in the Septuagent, which is
of course Hebrew translated into Greek, they also used theos there.
Yet in Psalm eight five when we're when it says
we're made little lower than the Elohem, the Septuagint chose
to translate that into anhilos instead of theos, even though

(14:06):
the word is eloheim the same as the other places.
So that's where I think that we get.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
We get the.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
We're at the lowest level rank rather than right under
the gods. There's the God God Yahweh, our Father, and
then the Beneoloheim the sons of God, which would be
the little g gods. And that's where I think that
we were created a little lower than the little g gods.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Well, yeah, and I agree with you. I think that
there's a group of individuals, let's call them graded beings,
because again, in our present ability to recall things from
the past. You know, you and I can sit here
and say, well, we can't remember. You know, we don't
remember the hierarchy, right, because it's possible we really actually

(15:00):
were there, and that will open up a whole new
planet worms for a lot of people. But like I
always tell people, this is not our first rodeo. It's
one and only time on planet Earth on an assignment.
But we don't know how far back because there's all
kinds of scriptures. Who I knew you before you were
in your mother's room, you know, those kinds of things.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
And he wrote this Justice Scroll before the foundations of
the Earth.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, you know, I think one of the things that
a lot of the theologians and or just regular folks
like us run into problems with is is that people
in the past would interpret things like that based on
what they saw around it. Well, that's almost the worst

(15:45):
thing we can do. Like for instance, I mean, you know,
so all of science develops based on what can be seen,
and then they discover the whole realm of quantum, which
a lot of you know, how do you even fit
that into normal scientific thinking? That the fact that you can't.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, it's a totally different, good system.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, so in reality, you may be totally correct that
there is a class of created beings because there's only
one God father, some holy spirit. Okay, correct major at
the top. That's the way it is, right, But why
couldn't he create a certain class of beings if he's
so desired, who would be rulers over the vast cosmos, multiverse,

(16:32):
whatever verse? Okay? And of course the answer is that
he could, and then he would then, because he's such
a good and loving father, delegate authorities to them. So,
for instance, when we look at Greek and Roman mythology
and we see the pantheon of gods, that's just a
perversion of the reality of the way that things work

(16:54):
in heaven.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Okay, well I think that that was the little g gods,
I literally know.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, but they must up. Those guys did well.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
They absolutely did.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
They're on their rebelling, they're not on Father's side.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
So, so today, while we're waiting for, you know, some
super selick dude to show up as the Antichrist, in reality,
it really could be the one of those individuals by
the name of Apollo. Yeah, he's let out of the
abyss and shows up looking like a guy with all
the smooth talk because he's had thousands and thousands of

(17:27):
year to practice his lines and make and then and
then the thing that people have to understand is those
created beings, they have energies that we're not used to.
They can throw it, they can throw a pseudo love
energy out there, yeah, and make you think that you're wow.
If this is nirvana, I don't you know, I don't

(17:48):
need that crack anymore. I can just hang out with
Apollo and I'll be cool, you know. And and that's
what's going to happen, I believe, Yeah, because this is
the age that we're in. This is this finishes at all.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I agree. I think we're going to move.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Into eternity without rebellion after this age. So the thing
that I always challenge people with is why can't we
be the group that is God's boots on the ground.
It helps this thing get up.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Well, That's where I'm going with this whole thing, doc,
because I you know, I teach I have a program
called Kings on Fire, and it's all about our identity,
our authority, What is our kingdom? How do how are
we bringing His will to the earth? What are our
spiritual inheritance to do that with. And so if we
are supposed to live by faith and not sight and

(18:42):
believe in who he says we are when he says,
you know, we were made a little lower and we
are not our our king, his kingdom is not from
this world. We are citizens of heaven, you know, as
he is, so are we in this world. There's so
many verses. So it's more about us shedding the false

(19:02):
narrative that we're not, you know, impactful in the earth
and actually coming up and being seated in those heavenly
places and putting on our royal crown and looking to
see what Father does in a situation and legislate it
back into the earth. I think that we're being his ambassadors.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
So that's why I.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Was trying to get to the place where you know,
we don't mamby pamby mess with principalities, powers, thrones and dominions.
You know, we have to have that mandate. And I
would say, you probably wouldn't do that alone. You would
probably be in a legislating body in Ecclecia to do
that kind of work if the Lord calls you to
do that. But you can definitely call on the Principality's powers,

(19:47):
thrones and dominions who are on God's side to protect
you and to you know, shore them up and bring
His will into the earth as far as their assignment is.
And we're the ones who have this three D body
that can interact with the three D world, you know,

(20:08):
they they are let's just say four dimension, not time,
but the fourth spatial dimension. Let's just say there and
above and so we can interact with one dimensional, two
dimensional and three dimensional because we're three dimensional, so they
could interact with all of us anything.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Below whatever dimension there and let's just let's just say
just so.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I don't think though, that they I think we're put
here for the reason of being that agent like the
hands and beat that's kind of like his agent who
can operate and touch things and move things. I had
a dream one time where I was in the fourth dimension,

(20:52):
but it was as if everything was like frozen and
I could reach, but I couldn't I couldn't touch, Sure,
I couldn't interact because I didn't have the faculties to
do that. And so I'm wondering, you know, we're here
to do that kind of work. It might be an
energetic drain for them to do that. I don't know,

(21:14):
you know, maybe not.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Maybe, well I believe and you can correct me if
I'm wrong, But I think what you're trying to do
is perhaps help people bring some clarification to who we
are really and the authority that you know, what are
we here? What are we here for?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Because because you know, typically the church, you know hope
and with maybe some gifts and signs and wonders throw in,
basically just say God was lonely, he created a family, Adamy,
he fell. So now you know Jesus came, and you know,
we accept Jesus and we just plod along in life
and do the best we can. He'd senday school and

(21:55):
then we dine and go to heaven. Well, that wasn't
the intention with Adam, and even that it's not the
intention now because and it really, it really kind of
burdens me because there's a lot of people that say, well,
when we become born again, we're restored back to the
original Adam, and actually that is not true at all.
And I've heard some really big name important teachers say that.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Well when the Bible doesn't even say that.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well, they're saying it. But if we're a new creation,
then we need to define that what that is, okay,
And the definition of that is our savior, his life,
his death, is retaz resurrection, his ascension in his current state.
Because if you understand quantum at all, you know that

(22:42):
he lives inside of us. Well, then that's called quantum entanglement, right, Okay,
So the human body is sixty five percent water. If
Jesus's presence is in us, and it's not just a metaphor,
then wouldn't his frequencies be giving pattern to our water
and therefore changing us so that we can change the

(23:03):
world around us?

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, I mean so there's just little little things like that. Now,
Now I don't want to jump too far ahead, but
this is going to air after my teaching the upcoming
conference that I'm going to be speaking at. But one
of the quantum principles is called quantum oscillation. Every atom
in the physical universe oscillates, which means it moves in

(23:27):
and out. Well, we're all made of atoms, Okay, So
let's let's say that our physical body is the inn. Well,
when our atoms move to the out, what what is
it moving to? Well? I know, it's moving into heaven

(23:48):
realm if we're born from above. If we're still in darkness,
then it's moving out into whatever the things that darkness teaches. Yeah,
you see what I'm saying. So I'm doing in and
out somewhere. But here's where the problem is. Because we're

(24:08):
born into the fabric of three D reality. That is
what has framed the way that our mind processes things. Right, Okay, well,
if we don't build heaven reality now, we're not going
to start having and seeing. And it's not what's on

(24:29):
the other side that is the misconception. It's what's here
now that if we had the visible spectrum, we would
live in both rooms at the same time, much like
the ben Elohem but they're more advanced than what we

(24:49):
could still be. But kind of like.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
That, yes, yes, you're saying, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
So the real issue and I'm talking science here. So
recently I a paper about some people that did something
about the visual spectrum in the way that it interplays
with the human mind. And so let's say that a
visual spectrum, it would be really cool if it was
like this big, This would be like maximum. Well, ours

(25:16):
is like that, and so that means anything outside of that.
In the middle of this, our brain can't even process
and just through cognitive dissonance throws it out. So here's
the interesting thing. We are seeing angels all the time.
We're seeing everything that's going on on the different wavelengths

(25:39):
I prefer almost wavelengths now that my knowledge is building,
then even dimensions, although we call those.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, no, that makes sense, okay, It's just.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
That by the time what we see gets processed through this,
we don't have a clue what we just saw.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Oh my gosh, you are so tracking. I have talked
to the Lord about this so much, and every time
I see like a little tiny blip, I'm like, well,
thank you angels for being here. You know, you don't
even process it normally, But because I have tuned, I'm
trying to tune and be aware. Oh my gosh, you're

(26:17):
so You're so right on.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
And that's exactly what the thing is.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Okay. So the darkness that is ingrained in the fabric
of three D reality format at our thinking. But God's
words should format the fullness of his person, his kingdom,
and all the resources and functions that go with that.
That's what we should be focusing. You know, before we're

(26:43):
out there trying to do this great thing and you know,
I need to kill somebody and get my tent and
all that kind of stuff. We need to build out
the outpart. The end is in oscillation. We need to
build that outpart where it moves out. Now, here's what's interesting.
It happens three thousand and five hundred times a second.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Isn't that just.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
My love? So so the only way to live in
both realities at the same time is to frame what
would be for us a new reality because of our physicality.
But it's possible because of Christ in us. It's possible
because of the Holy Spirit ins through us around us.
It's possible because we are a new created order. Now

(27:33):
anything that the one or depending on who you listen to,
the three atoms that were created, and you know, we
can deal with that maybe at some of the times,
but which I'm you know, as far as I'm concerned,
the jury is out on that. But let's just say
the atom that we think about, we're already a higher

(27:53):
order if we're born from above. Now, before he fell,
he had certain ability these because he was in tune
to all of the frequencies and the way that everything
flowed and he could he could go back and forth,
he could bilocate, he could do all kinds of things

(28:14):
because he wasn't locked in.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Well, I also think his flesh was a different type,
because we're a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy.
As far as our physical DNA, he was probably better.
But because we have our it's our spirit and the
potential of soul that is higher. Our physical body isn't

(28:41):
necessarily higher, but we can make it, we can work
on it.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Right. Well, that's that's part of what we're working through
now exactly for the fall. Doctor carry Rings, who was
a noted alternative doctor in the forties and fifties even
in the sixties, believed that Adam's body was more of
a spirit body, that he could have had a temperature
of a thousand degrees celsius because he was a being

(29:05):
of light.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Well, but he still would have had to interact with
the three D world.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
It wasn't a three D world the way that we
know of him.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Well, I think it didn't. Doesn't the Bible talk about
the spiritual structure that God did it and then everything
was blown up, and then it became tohuvaboho. Then it
became chaos, and so he created the physical world. Again,
I mean, isn't that between Genesis one and one?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
And but you're right, I mean, and I don't disagree
with any of that. But again, if other beings had
the ability to be what they needed to be at
any given moment, he could have too.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I think, yeah, I think you're right. I'm just he
would what.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Would that look like? Would you know? Would it be fire?
Because he was making God's image.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, he said yeah, he said we're fire. He says
we're smoke.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So now that's what it could have been. But unfortunately
it didn't last long enough for us to get the benefit.
So then we have this new creation that was enabled
by everything that the Son of God and Son of
Man did, one of the same being. We still have
the whole quantum realm. We've got the realms outside of

(30:24):
time and space. Okay, when we come here in our
placed in our mother's womb, we come with a scroll.
You come on assignment. Now, in order to be qualified
for the assignment, we have to be born from above.

(30:44):
That's why it doesn't matter how nice the New Age
people are, how nice the Buddhists and Hindus are. How
nice anybody is? You do not have the frequency spectrum
to be able to interact with the living God the
way you were created to you're fully human or human enough,
let me say, because we know there's others that aren't

(31:05):
human running your God them because their day's coming.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
People talk about them too.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Okay. So the thing is, once we're born again, we
throw ourselves into the Word because it's alive. And I
think that we should be reading the Word to ourselves
out loud because there is a factor of resonance that
takes place. Okay, and I know an airplane or something

(31:32):
that you can't do that. But when you can't, you're
home sitting in your easy chair, start reading the word
aloud because it has a different effect on ourselves, on everything,
our DNA, the whole words. But at some point we're
moving into a higher created order in our savior that
we're bringing it. We're tugging this flesh along. And the

(31:54):
fact of the matter is is even scientists are starting
to go, well, wait a minute, if we just tweet
this stand here and here, mankind could almost live forever.
What happened? Well, you and I know what happened. It
was a tremendous rebellious act that really wasn't just because

(32:16):
I don't know, you've picked a piece of fruit off
of the tree and went charm. She switched operating systems.
She did yep, Okay. She basically said to God, Okay, well,
you know you made me, and everything that you say
is cool. But I really like what this guy's come
up with. And I think I'm going in that direction.
Oh my goodness, that's one person that I need grace

(32:41):
not to slap. I mean, I'm just being honest with you.
I mean, you know, from the South, so we have
our own sayings down here, in our own way of thinking.
But I mean, seriously, seriously bless her heart. Yeah, and
that's the that's the bad way to say, bless your heart.
And so anyway, I mean, yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
But truth be told, though, let's just say the way
the Bible says it is that Adam was given the
directive not to eat the fruit. Eve wasn't, and she
ate it because she was deceived. Adam did it out
of rebellion. He was standing right next to her at
the time, and he could have protected his wife.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
He could have and.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
There are certain extra biblical writings that I think have
a great deal of merit that actually say that they
might have even been tipped off that they were going
to be tempted, which makes it even worse.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, that makes it even worse. I don't want to
hear that.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
And so but but yeah, I mean, okay, but the
thing is, here's what it didn't change. It may have
changed man's ability to you know, star trek all over
the universe and being me up Scottie stuff and all
that kind of stuff. Okay, right, but it didn't change
why we were sent it. And that's the bigger issue
that the Church doesn't really deal with that much. They

(34:05):
since since well, actually there was a time in the
ages past where everything was operating well and there were
no rebellious orders of individuals. M well, part of the
whole thing that Satan got into trouble with. I think,

(34:26):
now this is this is doc's version. Okay, this is
the doc talk. Okay, okay. Is I think that obviously
he really loved what he did and he always wanted
to be the top dog. Well, his actual name wasn't Lucifer,
it was Hallel. That's the beginning of hallelujah, which means praise. Well,

(34:52):
at least that's one of his names.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, I haven't.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I haven't heard that it was actually said, Like his
name was never meant.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's what that's what the word is on the street
from Doc.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Okay, okay, got it, got it? Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
So he finds out that God is getting ready to
create a new order of being that is going to
be scarily close to Father, Son and Holy Spirit mm hmm.
And he said, you know, I realized that angels and
many of the creative things that our job is to
take what you say, Father and just go to the

(35:27):
different capitals around the cosmos and share that. But you're
going to give these guys a certain level of creative
leeway to kind of co create a little mini co
create with you. M we want that? Well probably, no,

(35:50):
I'm the creator. It doesn't work that way. This is
Doc's really short version. Yeah, and he goes around. He says,
wait a minute, I remember that the Lord took us
all to this period lay out in the cosmos. It
was this really dark area. We would probably call that

(36:15):
dark area antimatter. And he says, wait a minute, if
I come up with a created order and mix some
of God's light with it and then take it back.
He's got to have proved me to be better than this,

(36:36):
these human spirit things. So they're told, don't go there.
He goes. He takes the antimatter, works it in with
some light, takes it back, and the Father says, I
told you to stay away from you. He said, well, why, antimator,
have you ever seen a battery? Most of the stuff

(36:59):
visibly that we see in the universe is the positive self.
There had to be a negative somewhere so that there
was the balance. So he just takes raw material and
comes up with his own plan. Because you've been around
for a long time, he'd seen God do a lot
of stuff. And it causes the Great Rebellion War everywhere.

(37:25):
All these created beings are having to choose choices, all
these crazy spaceships that the Indians talk about happening twelve
thousand years ago, and nuclear war and all this kind
of stuff. And the Father says, law, I'm gonna lock
all the rebellious ones into the Milky Way galaxy, and

(37:49):
then these humans I'm gonna send their his boots on
the ground as a lesson that I can have my
folks right in the midst of all this, and they're
going to start slowly undoing them now to make a
good fantasy novel.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
But in the process our ancestors blew it. Know what,
I'm not done yet this time, I'm coming down myself
the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. That
you could say everything so far back that it didn't
even make sense. Then what do you need to be, Chris?

(38:30):
What do you need to be sacrificed forul? And then
it did. But then it comes not just to restore
us back to Adam and E, but to restore us
to the relationship with Father himself, the Son Holy Spirit.
But now we have a new image. That's the image

(38:52):
of Christ in us as the Hope of glory. And
we have not stopped and asked ourselves enough what should out.
We're being told what it should look by you know, Spurgeon,
and you know all these other boat that got it
from somebody else, got it from somebody else, got it

(39:14):
from Luther, that got it from you know whoever. Wait
a minute, if we're new creations, shouldn't we be able
to hear from God directly what his.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Plan is for our lives absolutely, and.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Then what are the resources in how do we handle them?
Because the one thing that I'm learning, I'm a little slow.
It took me seventy one years. But the one thing
that I'm learning that if we only do what we
see the father, do you think of what that entails
before we can even see what the father's doing. While

(39:47):
we're jumping out there doing all this stuff, my identity
doesn't come because I used to be a mafia head.
Man now I really wasn't, but you see what I'm saying,
or woman, Now I've got to be got to cover
all the bases, I get it. My identity shouldn't be
that I was a wife of user, which I've never been.
But you see these people that get saved and then

(40:11):
for thirty five years, they took me out of the
Lord took me out of the dumps. Okay, fine, you
know that that's good for a while because you're showing
his grace. You're showing how you can be transformed, but
then transformed to what and to do what? That's where
understanding quantum understanding, what's the grid that is still around us?

(40:35):
Even though there's three D reality, there's another reality flowing
right through it at the same time that when we're in,
we can go out, and that's the other part of us.
So that's what we need to reframe Heaven now in us.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah, that's what I work with my clients on developing
in themselves and then expressing through their business. So absolutely,
what is what is God saying now and what does
he want to do about this? And what is his See,
we're part of the We're part of his plan. We're
part of his redemptive plan of creation. And so many

(41:14):
people run around acting like.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
They're the resistance.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
I'm like, no, we're not the resistance, We're the plan.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Well, you know, just this may seem a little off topic,
but you and I talked about this before. You know,
there's this guy running around with this little box with
alligator clips on him. He's clipping into plants. Oh yeah, yeah,
the plants are having these beautiful songs. Well, why aren't
we hearing that? We should be right.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
To hear that is there.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Part of that melody that we should be speaking to
m Now, I saw something on these TikTok videos or
whatever we're called. If i I'm going to try to
so on a day that I'm made sure that there
was no wind or anything around, went out to the backyard.
We lost our bottlebrush trees because it had snow in

(42:11):
South Alabama last winter. If you can believe it.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
There's no weather modification.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
They're not doing none at all.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Which is why I'm like this, Probably because everybody in
the neighborhood has a running nose this week. Well what
did they spray on that different story? Oh yeah, So anyway,
I thought, So we put in these miniature magnolias. It
will eventually grow, but massive magnolia. So if you've ever
been in the South, it only take one tree to

(42:40):
cover the whole backyard if it was a big magnolia.
These are baby woods. So I'm watering them and I'm
praying in the spirit and just imparting things because I'm
starting to see that things are different and everything is
in there should be a cohesiveness, and we're the ones
that are called to rule over it after all.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
So I'm watering with my left hand and I put
my right hand about two inches away and I said, hey,
magnolia tree, would you like to reach out and touch me?
And I promise you that branch moved out and touched
the back of my hand. So I'm looking around, going
is anything moving? I said, maybe there's just a little

(43:22):
wisp of wind in that sixth inch area right there, right,
So I've moved it a little further away, made sure
there was no wind, and the tree did the same
thing again. Okay, wow, you know, is that going to
change somebody's life? Probably not. However, there is a plethora

(43:44):
of things out there on the Internet today that are
going to try to get us grounded to planet Earth
and grounded to three D reality and you know, and
be more aware of all that. But that's still falling.
We need to be grounded in our Savior, in his blood,

(44:07):
and when we have that, we are above creation. Now
we're beginning to move in government. Maybe there's a song.
You know, we were talking a little bit ago, you
talked about spraying. Well, you know, I found out recently
one of the it's not just that they're trying to

(44:28):
mess with us and terriform the weather which they finally
admitted to which, by the way, with their microwaves, aren't
they doing a real good job of flooding everywhere now
or whatever wave it's called one of the things that
they are putting in the in the spray trails is

(44:48):
something that will block frequencies from outer space. Now, why
would we be concerned about that? Because all creation sings
to the glory of God and these frequencies that we
should be receiving processing with our pineal gland and benefiting

(45:09):
from that that have been sent throughout the universe. So
here's these geniuses on planet Earth creating a dome to
try to lock us all in here. I'm sorry it's
not too much for some people, but I mean, it's
what's going on?

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Does that have to do with the graphene oxide or
is that something else? I know the graphine oxide is bad,
but I don't know if that creates the blocking of frequency.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
You know, I couldn't really answer that. I just know
that that I saw a pretty in depth article and
then saw a video on it later on, that there's
more going on behind the scenes than what we've been told.
Part of it because because I heard a story about
a couple of the astronauts and whether how far up

(45:59):
they really God, that's the whole different story. But at
least they weren't you know, at twenty or thirty thousand
feet they were above that, right, and up there they
could hear angel singing. They had a tape running and
there was angel singing in the background. Hey, why don't
they tell us about that? Oh, the same reason that
the Smithsonian Institute took all the giant bones away because

(46:21):
they didn't want to, you know, let us know that
there were giants here at one time, which the Bible
clearly says there were.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Right exactly speaking of that, you know Goliath, that David
and Goliath, and people are like, oh, he was only
he was the Israelites were really short, and he was
like six foot tall.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I'm like, wait a minute.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Saul was head and shoulders over all of the rest
of the Israelites. So if Goliath was us, say, Goliath
is six' sixth then that means he's only like three
inches taller Than.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Saul's, like that's not, giant.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
RIGHT I, mean ALL i can do is pray for
people like, that because because here's the. Thing we've spent
our entire lives being trained by the fabric of THREE
d earth, reality and then a lot of us spent
a lot of our, life in my case fifty three
years as a believer being trained by. Theology, yeah some

(47:18):
of that theology which was actually dumbed. Down it's not
as powerful as it is in the original.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
LANGUAGE i totally agree with you, There.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Okay in, Fact Chuck missler even said THAT i Think
It's daniel chapter seven could actually be interpreted as actually
talking about space aliens in certain, instances just because of
the real wording in the original. Language that is one.
Possibility so it's, like, okay are we going to get

(47:50):
back to what our assignment is are? On, Okay now
there's an individual assignment and then there's the corporate. Assignment
we have to see that one of the first, things
and this is WHAT i have in my book moving Towards.
Sunship so this is a shameful advertisement and is that

(48:12):
we must get rid of the filters and static in
our life because if we, don't we can't phase in
and out the way we need, to. RIGHT i, mean
it's just a matter of scientific, practicality because we are
really in all real you, know in both realms at. Least.
Now one of the things THAT i noticed about The taurus,

(48:34):
medallion AND i THINK i may have shared this on
our the podcasts that are about ready to be released
but the original, one WHICH i call The, taurus WHEN
i wore. This Now i've got different colors of, them
but they're still The. Taurus and some of the different
colors have different. Functions BUT i made all kinds of

(48:55):
different colors of this because of the upcoming, convention because
some people want them where some people want them, go you,
know so they're but this is The. Taurus WHEN i
was in, CHURCH i have the distinct feeling of being
there and somewhere else at the same. Time, now the
Other taurus designs didn't do that to, me but The taurus.

(49:16):
Did AND i asked The lord about, it and he, said,
well because the DESIGN i gave to you and the
specifics of the gemstones are helping you expand to twenty
nine and a half. Feet but it's the one medallion
formula THAT i gave you that also helps you when
you're oscillating in and, out to help you rebuild your

(49:37):
reality to be heaven.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Reality right WHEN i.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Do breakthrough sessions with, PEOPLE i one, TIME i don't,
know maybe about a year, AGO i just did in
front of me a little, longer BUT i got the distinct.
Impression The lord told me that every time we remove
a lie that we believed out of ourselves or out
of our generational, line it removes it from the face

(50:02):
of the. Earth so therefore it shifts the frequency JUST i,
mean it might be a minute total, amount but every
time we get those filters off of us so that
we can resonate at a more clear frequency with the,
truth it removes it from the face of the.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Earth, like oh my, Gosh, laura that that is really.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Awesome and what we need to see, too is is
that there is a universal resonance principle where if we
have say we resonate with, gratitude for, instance love gratitude
something like, that well we're gonna we're gonna match that
from heaven and it's going to become this beautiful symphony

(50:44):
in orchestra as we walk into WALMART. Yep so here's
where a lot of a lot of believers get freaked.
Out the new agers know this. Too but should we
take them all out and take a bulldozer and run
them off a cliff just because they discovered universal mechanical.

(51:04):
Principles we're the ones that are supposed to be in charge.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Them, right they have the, counterfeit, right we have the.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Realm in my, Book unlocking The Quantum. KINGDOM i, Said,
okay how much of this whole quantum thing of one
hundred percent does somebody that's not born again operate? In
he said one?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Percent, yeah that's.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Great so if they're getting all tickled with their outer
body experiences and you, know doing all the other stuff
that they're doing with one, percent what in the world
should we be doing with the hundred Where god's on the.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Ground, exactly we have to know who we, are and
we have to know our, authority and we have to
stop playing small and you, know get over ourselves for you,
know the, weight the, heaviness the, weightiness the, fogginess the,

(52:06):
lethargy all of those things that are in our, food,
air and water and the energy throwing. Out, exactly we've
got to get above that so that we can operate
at the true resonance Of his voice singing over.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Us like you, said CAN.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
I share very quickly one thing to luksh with. Me
recently a lot of people are catching the concept of
bringing your spirit forward so that your spirit is in.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
CHARGE i always put my spirit in the driver's.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Seat, okay so same. Thing, Yeah, Well i'm sitting out
on my back, porch which is my little main area of,
revelation because that's where The lord showed me the fabric of,
reality and all kinds of things just run before my.
EYES i saw the flaming six foot outline of my. Soul,
there all kinds of. Stuff SO i, said, Okay, lord

(53:00):
you know the soul likes to be a, gatekeeper because
the soul is in charge of most of our. Lives
what CAN i? Do and he, said, well, son when
you call your spirit, forward speak to your spirit and, say,
SPIRIT i align you With god's holy, fire with his,
glory with his, light and with his living. Water it

(53:22):
just happened. Again but every TIME i say, IT i start,
buzzing you, know those little tingles kind of like when
your leg falls, asleep only it's bringing out a bad
thing my whole. Body, Okay so, now Because i'm wearing The,
taurus and BECAUSE i understand more quantum, functionality And i'm
reframing my reality to heaven, REALITY i, Mean i'm literally

(53:46):
like it's not, shaking BUT i can feel the energy going,
woh whoosh whoosh around. Me it's like this bubble around
me or, something and it's expanding out right, well that's
the one thing that The lord. Said a lot of
people they're bringing their spirit, forward but they need to
line their soul because the body is just going to
respond most of the, time because you, know there's so

(54:12):
many things we need to work toward our. Body but
what a lot of people don't understand about the soul
is the soul steps up and takes the place of
our spirit when our spirit isn't in. Control, Right but
that's not what our souls. For our soul is actually
an amplification agent of our spirit to Release god's fire

(54:37):
and his. Mandates and he's the the lighter fluid for the. Briquettes.
Okay and then all of that resonates out through OUR
dna and, ourselves and all of a sudden everything begins
to change around. Us and SO i recommendation your spirit,

(55:02):
forward SO i align you with the fire Of, god
the glory Of, God god's living light and his living.
Water and Now i'm excuse, me.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
That's, okay the dog is. Barking i'm in the.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Pot.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Yeah that that's so. Good AND i love the way
you say to. Resonate say that again with your, pulling
your calling your spirit. Forward and then you're harmonizing.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
With so What i'm doing Is i'm linking all three
of my parts of my nature. Together so my spirit
should be in. Control because our personal, spirit as opposed
to The Holy, spirit is what The Holy spirit speaks
to And father and The. Lord so We SO i picture,

(55:55):
myself AND i don't know where my spirit is actually
where it's, located BUT i just wrap myself in my.
Spirit SO i call my spirit, forward and THEN i
speak to my, soul because the soul is the agent
of fire that takes the things that are basically theory
from our end of it out of, heaven transitions them

(56:19):
through our, soul and then releases through our body through our,
voice but also through just our energy into the fabric
of THREE d. Reality SO i say to my, SOUL
i align you With god's. Fire his glory is living,
light because it really is alive in the living, water

(56:41):
in the living.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Water, yeah because the living water testifies in the.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Earth, yeah that's.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Good and so now those things begin also to bless
my body in the way that my cells resonate and.
Everything SO i kind of start, humming, Okay so THEN
i can speak to anything that The father is showing
me to do because Now i'm positioned in a, truly

(57:08):
in a quantum way to be able to break the
code of THREE d reality and to put a little
impartation Of heaven into that fabric that's running all around.
Us you know how it's computer code of zero one zero. Zero,
well we're reprogramming With heaven and that's why we were

(57:29):
sent here any locale of. Darkness we Are god's, light
purposely assigned to do things. Here that's what we got
to get a hold.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Of we absolutely do. Well thank. You that was so.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Brilliant i'm so glad that we were able to go
down the. Fringe let's wrap this one, up land this
plane and take it down a, different different rabbit. Trail
how about? That, okay, okay thanks you guys for. Listening
please share this out if you're enjoying. It this Isn't
it was a different. One we didn't really talk about
spirit centered, business but we did talk about taking, authority

(58:10):
which of course you do need to do in your.
Business you, know who need to know who you are
and what authority you, have and how to operate in
the mechanics of the, universe which is what we've been talking.
About SO i guess it is kind of spirit centered.
Business so on til next, time stay spirit.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Centered Peace.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Out thank you for listening To Spirit Centered business With Berlin.
Nuby be sure to, like subscribe and share with your.
Friends the next age of doing business by being spirit
centered is coming together in, collaboration working with spiritual, principles
and knowing our. Destiny join our tribe at spirit centered

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business dot com and we'll catch you on the next.
Broadcast Peace. Out
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