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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to my world.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Bitch, wow, good boy here.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Welcome to the one hundred and seventy third episode of
the Supernatural Occurrence Studies podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
So Pathetically Paranormal.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
My name is Jason Knight, host of the show, and
with me as always is.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Ah Scar, spector, producer extraordinaire and podcast co host Oscar.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It's Christmas season, my favorite season, bro.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
This is your favorite season. Oh no, we didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I've never said this before.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
No, you say too much.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm being sarcastic, jolly, jolly as fuck right now, Charlie.
I mean I love Halloween obviously. Oh, we gotta talk
about Halloween. Halloween during Christmas episode. The timelines are weird.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It's funny because it's not even like it's it's so
bizarre because we released on the first, so nothing makes sense.
The first of December is still not Christmas. I get
that it's Christmas season because it's December officially. I get that,
but we're still twenty five days away from it. Yeah, yeah,
and we are technically, as you're listening to us listeners
out there, we are what six days from Thanksgiving and
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we have yet to experience Thanksgiving as of this recording.
So the only thing we can talk about experience wise
is as far as holidays go at the end of
the year, is that we did go through Halloween. It's right.
It makes no fucking sense, I know.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I mean here pretty much. November first, I started listening
to Christmas music, one of those I am.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I hate that.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And we're putting up our Christmas tree tomorrow Sunday, like
you said, six days before Thanksgiving. That's I love it.
I love it. I do.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It's thanks even next week or the week after the
week after.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, we're celebrating ours on the twenty second, okay, with
family here at my house because my mom actually works
on Thanksgiving, so we're having our Thanksgiving early, and then
we're doing the in laws actually on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So nice.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, so we get to have two I love cooking Thanksgiving.
I love a nice waking up to a nice cold morning,
firing up that stove, getting the smells permeating through the house,
watching the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. I love that they
still have that. Oh yeah, every year. Oh it will
probably never stop. I think it's been going over one
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hundred years.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I don't think I carry Evan as a kid about
any parade in my life. I love it my whole life.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I've never gone too many, it's too peopley. The most
I've watched on TV.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The most fun parade ever had is that I went
to a parade in a small town King Signeta Parade
in Mexico. It was great. A lot of drinking, but
like much like Saint Patti's parade, which I've gone through too,
and drink a lot too. But I just the drinking
is the only thing I appealed to me, like I
cared about him.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's what makes the easier to deal with.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
That's alcohol is a little I mean, we would have
far less children or not alcohol in our lives.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, true, true.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I'm going to a friends giving the day after thank
Giving you a friends, yea, we are the day after
and we all you know, picked the dish to make
and bring. I opted. I went like, I'm gonna go
challenging this year. And because you know, I've made some
stuff in the past, making homemade big ass top of
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chicken noodle soup. Chicken noodle soup, yeah, but with a
lot more stuff in it, very brothy and more veggies,
and it's just not not basic much put some turkey
in that. But no, I don't like turkey.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Turkey, but nope, do you say you don't like turkey?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I don't really like turkey.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Bro, Are you American?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I'm not barely, I mean technically I am. But yeah,
so that's what we're doing. Hasn't happened yet. Of course,
even though I.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Do, it could be a complete disaster.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It could be most of they. I'm making cookies as well.
I don't know yet cookies.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
What kind of cookies are gonna make?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Eminem cookies. Eminem cookies, I think so nice. I think
I feel like that today.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Those are I do like those. I'm not a really
cookie guy, but I'll eat some Eminem cookies.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
You've been eating all my cookies today.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I haven't touched them because I had such a big
dinner too.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I like to the audience, God, like they know you
and lot, why are you lying?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm ashamed of myself. But dinner was great. It was good.
We had a good family dinner. Now we're here to record,
got a good one this evening.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, speaking of what we're talking about something, Yeah, this
is weird, this is super weird. So listeners are to.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Break this down. Break this down because break.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
It down quick and you just intercheck here because you
actually need to show yourself. Last episode, we did a
three part kind of three stories kind of show, and
one of the stories we talked about were these rich
assholes that were that would pay a lot of money
in the nineties to snipe people during the Sarajevo War
that was happening there, Bosnian War war, and it, you know,
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it was it was a good topic. I didn't know
about this, you know, I knew about it, say Egobod,
I didn't know this element to it. And then it
wasn't like the day after anything, but like a week
later or two I started getting on TikTok stories of
this very topic that we covered the very same topic
two weeks before, and it was an almost word for
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word what you were fucking saying. It felt like I
didn't see it like in full. I saw it in
full one of them. And then after that, just every
time I saw one, wait, what another one? You know,
another one, another one, and I sent forward you one
and you have seen them too, and it is bizarre,
and I was going to ask you, why do you
think it's coming out?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It is a really strange thing. We've never heard about
this before, right, even when the documentary came out, was
it wasn't it called the Sarajevo Safari. I believe maybe
that's what it was called. Even when that documentary came out,
it didn't like make waves. It wasn't being talked about
on social media.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
When did that come out? Do you remember? I don't
like recent memory, pre COVID, I.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Would say, pre COVID.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Okay, so it was a while ago. I mean, it
wasn't this year, and nothing to say, like, oh, maybe
it just took a while for people to see it. No,
it's been over five years.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Shit, I would have to go back to I feel
like it was pre COVID, even if it wasn't pre COVID,
even if it was this year, right, I didn't know
about it until I literally started looking parching at this thing.
You know, didn't make waves. People weren't writing about it
and talking about it and all over social media. But
all of a sudden, we released that damn episode and
now we're getting kind of bombarded with these stories of
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the human hunting parties during the Bosnian War. Yes, and
like big big influencer, some big YouTube people are now
talking about it. Yep, Obviously it's not us that spark
this thing. We don't get those kind of downloads.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It would be nice, but just don't see the evidence,
right if it would be nice if that were the case,
but don't see how.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
To your point off the mics, you said, well, what
was the other topic we talked about?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, the one after that it was about like the
algorithm thing.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, what's listening?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
What's listening to us? How does an influence organizations or
governments around us? You know whatever? And impacted your friend
and that story, and I was like, well, us talking
about Sarajevo must have you know, ignited our algorithms on
our phones and then it would give us. But the
problem with that is that it would give us that
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new stuff right away. It wouldn't wait two weeks, because
it waited at least two weeks. For me. It wasn't
right away, It wasn't even the week later. It was
more than that. You always get them right away, that's true,
or within like forty eight hours, you know, sooner.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So it's been a while since since we put that
episode out.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
The only so I was thinking, like it has to
be that we are coincidentally, just a good time that
we came out with that topic, because there must have
been more concrete evidence discovered over the two weeks from
our show releasing and all these new news coverage to
elicit this kind of thing, and we just happened to
be there at the right time. Yeah, and if we
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were bigger, everyone will be like what the fuck, bro, Like,
how'd you guys do it? But yeah, that seems to
be the most logical explanation. But I haven't seen I
haven't researched the news lately, so I can't say.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, so the clips that I've seen, it wasn't anything
like whoa, I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
It's like very like a crucial event from doing our research.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah. The only thing I saw, I think it was
one that you sent me, was that some of the
dollar amounts being thrown around was like ninety thousand dollars the.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Right you can shoot a child in the street up Sariah.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, yeah, you could do you know that. I didn't
see that when I was researching. Outside of that, it
wasn't anything.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Like I saw one doing a breakdown of all the
different rich people from different countries, supposedly like France, no, no, No,
France in the United States, like they would put all
this like Britain, like all these countries that were with
the rich people associated with those countries. I guess they
were saying stuff like that. I'm like, what, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I don't know it was.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
So there is a potential other explanation, even though this
doesn't quite time exactly correctly, but it's really close. Jay,
Is that with the new and finally releasing of the
Epstein files at the same time that this happens, Like
I wonder if there is something in there that e
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loodes to this. Wow, So it could be this information
of some kind, like if they pushed this to hide
distract from the Epstein Files like they've been doing with
aliens or with not feeding people with snap you know,
or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, you know, like all
these horrible things are doing to distract us from the
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real thing that you're trying to hide. It could be that,
or it could be that something in that has led
to this kind of thing. But they're really close together,
these two news items.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, they are. And that is so that's true. I
haven't seen any of the clips about human hunting parties
being sourced to the Epstein.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, I haven't either, but again I haven't researched.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Either, or maybe all of it is the human hunting
parties is all distraction for three iye at Liss. So
we're not looking at three iyet lists. Oh not up there.
We still don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
So that's something else that's funny. Hold on, so I
wouldn't say that. I thought you were going to say
that there is a connection because the e f Stein
files A obviously, the whole thing about the island and
all these things that they did is all cater to
ultra uber rich people, which are the only ones that
could afford killing people. And Sarah YEAHO anyway, so I
can see a clear connection. And those people are old
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enough to have been around then gallivanting in their twenties
and thirties, So I buy it a little bit. Yoh,
so fuck you a little that's deep ment.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Be pounding on my fucking door here soon.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Now, I was gonna say, is that there the three
iye at Lias. I also got that on my feet recently.
Have you got any of that?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
All the time, it's all bullshit. Everything is no, I
know it is. I know I've got all the dumb stuff,
meaning like, oh, you know, scientists are hiding this because
it's an alien and they clearly fake the God knows
what they're showing, Like there was supposedly the asteroid that
isn't that doesn't look like this, but they're faking it
with this thing it's supposed to look like this, Like
(11:35):
it's not true at all. Yeah, it looks like a ship,
like a ship, right, Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's making sounds.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
But that also started happening recently, and and it wasn't
Oh what But I did look that up though on
my computer that I did look it up on my
computer after that show, but so that that would that
might do So that does make sense. But I feel
like there's a weird connection between all three stories in
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my life recently that we did last on the last show.
So weird, super.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Weird, weird. Yeah, they're always watching.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Man, I did so, Yeah, I did look that up
on my computer, and I told a few people about it,
like have you looked into this? I'm like, no, yeah,
look at you.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So you looked it up and your phone was listening
here and you talk about it to people. Yep, it's
now serving you up the content.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Still doesn't exlain thessari. Yeahle thing really but.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, no, No, that one's strange. That one is strange,
or maybe we're just that influential and we just don't know,
we don't know about it, but we're influential.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Like I love you that.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Doing me wrong. I'm not like, I'm not like not ego,
Like I would love that ego to be that influential.
It'd be cool, right. I do not get paid for it,
you know, yeah, throw in my prity, Like there are
people that are influencing damass bullshit. And if we actually
can influence something that isn't dombas bullshit that they you know,
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I want to get paid for that because they get
paid for dumas shit. Why can I get paid for
something a little more serious that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Was a little more good.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I feel like we're doing it for free. I feel
like we're working for free pretty much to influence people.
I'm like, no, I don't want I don't know, well
love that. I don't love that.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I don't love it either.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I need to send an invoices somewhere.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Send it right to Pennsylvania Avenue.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Oh is that the tower our house? Yeah? I forgot
the address for a minute.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, Halloween, you have fun.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
It was fun. Were you drunk?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Not really?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
No, right, not really this time you control yourself usually
like you act like a twenty year old. Yeah, when
you drink, you drink a lot and excess. Yeah, I
feel like I drank enough, but no, I was.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I was fine.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I also drank enough, but I didn't feel much.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
No, No, I liked your outfit. Cute, little Hispanic Mexican
Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
It was just Freddy Kruger. That was nice. Not no
cute or Hispanic too. We don't have to add that
to it, not at all.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Just pretty.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It wasn't like I had those the other la moretes,
you know, stuff on it.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Of the skulls, the sugar skulls. Yeah, Freddy Krueger with
sugar skulls instead of the green and red sugar. Right.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
We could do this, we could. I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
We could put that out there.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yes, I did. I like my glove a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
It was It was very It was cool. Yeah, and
tons of trick and treaters, good food, good drink. A
lot of people came.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
By it did. Yeah, a lot of people. People got
to use my material on them.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Oh yeah, mess with all the trick or treaters.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I messed with every single one through those poor girls.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You made them do cartwheels to get and they did it,
and they did it, they did do it. We were
also given like full sized candy bars and ship now
you were.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, I don't know how the other house to were.
I didn't like. I didn't do any week week conning,
you know, but I imagine you're a house of probably
the best.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I would like to think so. I mean people, they
were taking pictures with everybody, with all of us, and
taking pictures of the decorations.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, the decoration. That was cool.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Some little kid got into my coffin. I was like, well,
actually that's a cool idea, go for it.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I didn't see that. I meant that it's cool. So
it was just there a drink and make fun of
your guests.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And there's a lot of that going on too.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, I make fun of all your guests, did you
I think so? Didn't you notice that I wasn't making
fun of you because I was so busy in front
of everyone else. I fell back for you. I felt
like you were being left out.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Now I was, I was perfect.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I'm like I can ridical you Jay, you can just ask.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And I woke up the next day I felt good.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
So yeah it was oh yeah, no, no r either.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I mean it was good, good times, love me some Halloween?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Did your friend tea and kids? Everyone's head? Did you
stay over at night?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, okay you did, thankfully. That was a far drive.
I would have I would have insisted. He asked. I
would have insisted because he was drinking kind.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Of kind of a bit in excess. Agreed, but it was.
It was good, very Yeah under the show.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I guess we kind of did our ketchup. This is fun.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
This is a fun one.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I like it. Yeah, I was right into holiday season.
This is great.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I have no idea what it is, so we'll find out.
Do I know you didn't tell me, right, I.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Didn't, I don't think. And now we'll take a break.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeap, that was such an I didn't mean to go there,
but it happened. You know. We'll take back. Listeners, welcome
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back to the show.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Well, the lights are turned down low, the ceremonial ceremonial
candle is lit, and the drinks are fluid. Oh yeah,
let's start this show, oscar Man. We are drinking. This
has kind of become our little rit weal is that French, don't.
(16:47):
I don't know what that means. I have become a
ritual for our Christmas time episodes to drink our very
old Saint Nick eight year rye.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I think you're making this up. I don't. I'm positive.
I don't think we've drank it. I swear that for
the December show last year. I swear I'm ninety thousand
percent sure, dude, is that I will go back on
the archives listeners, go back to the last year and
let us know it is eighty six point It's not
even ninety proof. It's like eighty six point eight. You
sound so disappointed, eight year, very old.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
That's what they can you talk.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You talk in such disdain about the lack of proof
and that alcohol. The same way women look at me
when they see my penis when they unwrap that gift, right,
it's barely wrapped. That's how I feel like keep a
straight faith. I couldn't do it. Oh zing wow, zing
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myself works.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Usually it's usually directed at me, all your virtual but yes.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I feel like, you know, everyone should get their their licks,
even yourself, even myself. That's very nice.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's very stand up. I like that. Yeah, that's a mind.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's why I have a mirror, little m I, Oscar.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
We've got a lot to get through.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
We do maybe stop maybe stop fucking on.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Well that's what we're drinking. Okay, you know, the drinks
are flowing.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
We can't just say like, let's get to it and
then I'm like, okay, well let's get to it. Well, no,
I need to drink first.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I gotta, I gotta. Are you liking it? It's ry
I know you hate rye, but yeah, I hate rye.
It's not it's not a very hot rye because it's
only eighty six points whatever. Proof, Oscar. It is Christmas time,
a season meant for peace and warmth and wonder.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It's cold out. The apaital want.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Families gathered by the fire, children watch the skies for
Santa's sleigh, but some see something else. Every December, strange
lights appear over cities, quiet towns, and empty highways. People
lose hours of their lives. They wake with bruises and
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marks they can't explain, and tell stories that sound less
like holiday miracles and more like encounters. According to researchers
and organizations like the Mutual UFO Network or move On.
Reports of unidentified aerial phenomenon actually spike during this time
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of year, specifically between December twentieth and December twenty sixth.
Investigators call this time this period the holiday zone. It's
a cool it's a cool phrase. I like that, the
Holiday Zone.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
It's like Discovery zone. Remember those I do?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, the little like they're.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Like chuck e Cheese siteans but a little better, like
supposedly more.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, they're still cesspools of Germans.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Oh, I mean that's every place where children are allowed
that we've been to a school, like.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
My basement with the inkstains on the brand new fucking carpet.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, and the stabbing in your ceilings.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah yeah, no, No, there will be talks had after
this is done. Why this time of year? Why the
holiday zone? Cold winter nights mean clearer skies, better visibility
for anything above us. More people are outside after dark,
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walking off dinner, driving home from holiday parties, standing under
starlit snow. Holiday lights, drones and satellites can play tricks
on the eye, while nostalgia, stress or even loneliness can
make the veil between normal and unreal feel thin. Yet,
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the question lingers, is it only our imagination or is
there something deeper at work this time of year? Because
for as long as humans have celebrated the winter solstice,
we've old stories of visitors from above, angels descending to
announce births, stars guiding shepherds, heavenly lights appearing in the
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darkest part of winter. Maybe these stories were never about
gods or angels at all. Maybe they were about something else,
something that's been coming here every December for as long
as time itself, when the nights are longest and when
we're all looking up at the sky waiting for a miracle.
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Now tonight I have four we'll call it five stories
of Christmas time encounters.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Why'd you say four and then five?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, because the fourth actual story morphs into my own
personal story.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Oh okay, so not like one of those VHS movies.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Weird al oh VHS oh the horror movies?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I got you that's uh isn't that thhf or uhff?
Well you got a ball you thought it was VHS?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
So why were you looking over it? You looked weird?
What happened?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Uh? No, nothing, I was like I was looking at
the waves. But I have to you mentioned the lights before.
No one knows about this. Inside baseball, we have the
extra lights on right now, and they were giving off
a glare and I couldn't see the wavelength, so I
went over here to look out better.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I thought you saw something weird down here.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
No, I mean your son's uh vitriol. It's really it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
So the first story I have tonight is I'm calling
it the Christmas Visitors, Whitley Striber's encounter. Do you remember
Whitley Striber?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, I went to school with him, and let me
find out at least no.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Bro, you'll know who this is here soon.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Christmas time the time for warmth, family and stories told
by the glow of a winter fire. But not all
Christmas tales are of joy or peace. Some are warnings,
some whisper of visitors that don't come down chimneys, but
instead through the walls, the windows, and the hallways of
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our own memory. We'll begin with the story of Whitley Striber,
best selling author of The Hunger and the Wolfen, a
man who made his living imagining monsters until one night
he met them himself. It was late December nineteen eighty five.
Streber and his wife Anne, had escaped to their quiet
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cabin deep in the snowy woods of upstate New York
in the Hudson Valley region near Pine Bush, an area
already known for strange aerial phenomenon. The place was remote,
surrounded by frozen trees in silence, just the way Whitley
wanted it, a perfect retreat for reflection, writing, and rest
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after the holidays. But even before the night of the encounter,
before the visitors came, he would later write that the
air itself felt wrong, almost charged, as if the forest
was waiting for something. How this feeling would ring true.
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Then came the noises, not gentle, charming creaks of an
old cabin, but something alien and mechanical in communion the
book he wrote to document his experience, hum Stryber described
it as a series of electronic pops, like a Geiger
counter going off in the walls. That's a quote. But
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sometimes the noises came when the forest was dead silent.
Sometimes they came from inside the couple's bedroom. The lights flickered,
the power hummed, the air thickened, and at night, both
Whitley and Anne had the same feeling that something unseen
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was watching. Now do you kind of know what this is?
When I said, communion, yeah, when you.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Second, men, I remember the movie. Isn't that the walker
the author?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
That's what Christopher walk with him?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Minute.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Then came the night of December twenty sixth, nineteen eighty five,
the night after Christmas, Strayber woke abruptly in his bed
to what he called a low mechanical whirring, like the
sound of breath trapped inside a machine. He was paralyzed,
his body frozen, eyes wide, mind fully awake. He later
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wrote in Communion, I was not dreaming. The room was real,
the cold was real, and I was no longer alone.
He sensed them before he saw them. The room filled
with the smell like wet cardboard, distinctly non human yet organic.
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And then from the darkness figures emerged small, broad shouldered,
roughly three and a half feet tall. Quote. Their bodies
looked compact, dense. I could feel their presence before I
could see their form end quote. Their faces were wrong.
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They had huge, hairless heads, black, liquid eyes without emotion.
In Communion, Straber would write, the eyes were the worst.
They were not human eyes. They were something else, ancient endless,
filled with a kind of kind of intelligent emptiness. They
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wore tight blue suits that shimmered flaintly, faintly in the
dim light, no seams, no zippers, like their skin and
clothing were one. One being seemed to lead the others.
Streber called it the Master. It didn't threaten him, it
didn't comfort him. It only watched what he described as
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a cold curiosity that was neither kind nor cruel of
this being. Striber wrote, the face was consented, powerful, so
mesmerizing that it was at once dreadful and wonderful to see.
He tried to scream, but no sound came. With surprising strength,
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the beings lifted him from his bed and effortlessly carried him,
not through the cabin door, but through the air itself.
He would say, quote, the hallway folded around me, like
I was being walked through the inside of a dream
that forgot what a house was. Straber then slipped into unconsciousness.
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When consciousness returned, he was in a circular, metallic chamber,
faintly blue lit from nowhere. He described the air as
sweet and metallic, full of ozone and a smell like
wet cardboard. Again in the center, of the room stood
a table of smooth metal, an examiner's table. He was
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placed upon it, still paralyzed, still aware, A long needle
like device descended. He felt a sharp, burning pain in
his temple. Then a flood of images, emotions, entire histories
compressed into seconds. He saw the earth set aflame, oceans rising,
and humanity crying out in confusion. He saw his son dying.
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It wasn't a vision of the future, he wrote, but
a communication, as if they were showing me what they
saw in us. Voices without sound filled his head. He
recalled the communications, be still, you are with us. This
will be over soon. The taller being humanoid, pale, with large, blue,
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catlike eyes. Strayber described this entity as having eyes so
large and blue and profound that they seemed to be
like gateways into another world. Streber later said its presence
was strange. It felt kind, but in the way a
machine could be kind. He thought this is a He
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thought it was empathy on autopilot. The being touched his
forehead gently, and everything went black. When Straber awoke, it
was morning and he was back in bed. Something was
wrong with his bedside clock. The time was wrong. Ours
had vanished time loss, His nose was bleeding, A triangular
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mark was burned into his leg. His wife, Anne, pale
and shaken, said that she too had felt the presence
in the night. In the days that followed, Strayber was
overcome with fear, confusion. It wasn't a nightmare, he wrote,
it was an invasion of reality. Through hypnosis and therapy,
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fragmented memories began to knit together, images of his cabin,
the beings, the instruments, A huge owl staring in through
the bedroom window the night before the abduction, silent and unmoving,
its black eyes reflecting Streber's face. They used the image
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of an owl, Striber said, to hide themselves. It was
a mask, a screen to protect my mind from what
I was really seeing. Ultimately, Whitley Striber turned his trauma
into testimony. In nineteen eighty seven, he published Communion, a
memoir of that night and the months that followed. The
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book's cover, developed from his description of the visitors, became
the definitive image of the modern gray alien. In interviews,
Streiber refused to give a definitive label. He would say,
I don't know if they were aliens. I only know
they were real. Whatever they are. They exist in the
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space between dream and fact, the place where myth becomes memory.
In another passage, he wrote, we are the children of mystery,
and mystery is the heart of our being. When it
comes for us, it doesn't knock, It walks right through
the door. Now, the story of Communion will go on
to influence decades of UFO research, abduction accounts, and media,
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from the X Files to countless documentaries. Yet Streiber himself
maintained that the experience was not purely extraterrestrial. It may
not be from another planet at all, he said on
Larry King Live in nineteen eighty seven. It may be
something woven into the fabric of this world, a hidden
part of human experience. In nineteen eighty nine, Community and
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the Book was turned into a horrifying movie of the
same name, starring Christopher Walking as Whitley Striver. And I
think that watch in this movie is what made me
so fucking terrified of aliens. It's a scary movie. And
so the Night after Christmas nineteen eighty five became more
than a story of fear. It became a reminder that
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even in a season of light, something ancient and uninvited
might move quietly in the dark, not to harm, but
to remind us how little we truly know about the
universe or ourselves. So tonight, as snow piles against your
windows and you lie in your warm bed after the
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feast and laughter fade, listen closely if you hear a
faint clinking in the walls, or catch the smell of
wet cardboard. Remember Whitley Striver's Christmas encounter, and ask yourself,
when the visitors returned this Christmas, will they knock on
my door or walk straight through it?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Well? I know what I won't have.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
What's that cabin? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
If you have a cabin, you or your family, generational
wealth notwithstanding, just sell it. You don't need it, Just
get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Nothing good comes of it.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Get a condo condo in Miami. Yeah, way better, right,
way better get rid of the cabin or story man. Yeah,
or like you know, loan into your enemies, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
So you know, we we actually did a watch party,
if you want to call it a party with the
movie Communion on the pod.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I think that's where I saw that movie. Yeah, I'm
pretty sure that's when I discovered it. I don't remember
much about the movie. I remember I remember some stuff
not not not in detail.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But horrifying. So I've seen the movie, I've read parts
of the book, I've researched it. I never knew it
was a day after Christmas. I never put never clicked
in my mind until I started build.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I thought that was in the movie as well, shown
that way.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I just don't remember.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Maybe what Stata then remember New York because if it
was a California, maybe you can't tell the difference between
Christmas and.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
You know it snow. I didn't know it was. I
didn't know it's December twenty sixth. The holiday zone. Bro,
it's a thing.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Holiday zone. I can't take you seriously with.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That story too. We covered this this is called the
Rendal Shim for the Rendal Shim forest incident. We actually
covered this for Patreon quite a few years ago, and
so I just kind of rewrote that story. I shortened
it because that Rendal Sham forest. I think it was
over an hour itself just for that story. So I
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took the high level stuff and woven into it.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Didn't come to mine right away. Okay, you might like
that title.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I mean, so see if you remember so this story
Number two again is the Rendal Shim Forest and incident.
This is famous now every December story surface of mysterious
lights piercing through winter fog. Not from slaves or stars
or root off the red nosed Reindeer, but from something
far stranger. One of the most famous of these Christmas
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UFO encounters unfolded in Rendelsham Forests, England, just after Christmas
in nineteen eighty. It remains one of the most documented
UFO cases in history. Often called Britain's Roswell So again.
It was just after Christmas nineteen eighty England's Suffolk countryside
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laid wrapped in white fog, the air cold enough to
turn breath to smoke. The twin American Air Force bases
of RAF bent Waters and rif Woodbridge, run by the
United States Air Force right, were quiet. Most airmen were
off duty. The base was lit with muted red and
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green Christmas lights strung across barracks windows. It was supposed
to be a night of peace, but at around two
am on December twenty sixth odd right December twenty sixth,
the security police at the east gate of arif Woodbridge,
which by the way Arif Royal Air Force, Royal Air
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Force ARIF that's what.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
It stands for. Oh ad eh.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I'm sorry, yeah, r AF, Royal Air Force. Woodbridge noticed
something cutting through the dark forest, a brilliant cascade of red,
blue and white lights descending into the trees. It wasn't
fireworks or flares, and one guard radioed that it looked
like a plane had crashed. The shift commander immediately dispatched
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a three man team into the forest to investigate. That
team included staff Sergeant Jim Peniston, Airman first class John Burrows,
and Airman Edward Cabani Sag Caban sag at c aba
n Sag, cabin sag. That's where it is, cabin Sag.
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They they drove through the base perimeter, out the gates
and into the dense, rendlestrom forest. The woods were eerily quiet,
no birds, no wind, just a dull humming that seemed
to vibrate through the air. As they approached the source
of the lights, their radios crackled with static. The forest
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floor was glowing. Airman first Class Peniston would later describe
seeing a triangular craft, metallic and smooth, about three meters
across and two meters high, standing on three landing legs.
The surface reflected the red and blue lights like liquid glass.
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Staff Sergeant Peniston said he moved closer while Burrows stayed back.
The air felt electrically charged. Peniston reached out and touched
the craft. It was warm, much warmer than the December air,
and felt almost alive, as if faintly vibrating. On the
side of the craft. He noticed these strange symbols, shapes
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resembling ancient hieroglyphs or binary rooms. Pennisons sketched these images
into his note book before the light around the craft intensified.
The objects suddenly lifted silently above the trees and accelerated away,
vanishing in seconds. The men stood frozen, their radios useless,
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their hearts pounding. Their returned to base. Pale and shaken
were poorting what they'd seen to their superiors. At dawn,
a follow up team investigated the sight. They found three
triangular depressions in the ground exactly where the craft was
said to have landed, each about one point five inches deep.
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The surrounding trees had burned and broken branches nearly twenty
feet up, and radiation readings in the indentations and the
ground were higher than the background average. Local police were
called in, but they dismissed it all is nothing more
than lights from the nearby Orperedness Lighthouse. There was a
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lighthouse off in the distance called the Orpheredness This ancient lighthouse.
It was about five miles away on the coast. But
those who were there saw this thing disagreed. The lighthouse
beam couldn't explain the scorch marks twenty feet up in
the trees, the triangular imprints, the radiation, or the way
the radios failed.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Although it seems like radiation would that affect the radios?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I would see to agree, maybe think so. I kind
of feel like it would.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
It's not just electrical like storms or like no.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I think radiation could interfere. Right, scientists, if you're out
there listening, let us know could that happen?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah? Are you listening to a supernatural show? It seems
like that's very anti science. Are science?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Now? For two bays down? For two days, the bass
hummed with rumor. Then on December twenty eighth, events escalated.
Lieutenant Colonel Charles Holt, the deputy base commander, heard reports
that the lights had returned to the forest. Determined to
end the confusion. He organized a patrol including security policemen,
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Neville's Ball and Baran, and set out with floodlights, radiation
meters and a tape recorder. What Halt captured became the
famous Halt tape, eighteen minutes of raw real time audio
of a UFO investigation, and you could still hear it today,
the crunch of boots in the frozen soil, the men's
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voices rising with the excitement and disbelief when they actually
see something. And I left a link to a transcript
of the Halt tape in the episode show notes, as
well as pictures of what this rendelshrom UFO should look like,
so listeners definitely check out the show notes, read the transcript,
It's crazy, and again. On the tape in real time,
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Halt describes finding the same triangular landing marks, then watching
a glowing red sunlight object move through the forest, so
it kind of looked like a sun glowing red moving
through the forest. He said, it pulsed and appeared to
drip molten metal. At one point, the men shout that
it's coming closer, darting between trees as if aware of
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their presence. So it had an intelligence the object then
shoots skyward. It stopped over Woodbridge, Halt reports on the tape.
Moments later he says, now it's coming this way. It's
beaming down light. Beams of light stretched down from the
object to the ground. One of them, according to Halt,
lights lands right near their position this beam of light
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and back at the base. Security personnel on duty at
the weapons storage area radioed that a beam of light
had descended into the compound. They feared a security breach,
and years later witnesses confirmed to their superiors that their
superiors ordered them to remain silent about this incursion into
the base, and by dawn the lights were gone. The
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men returned to base with radiation readings, photographs and recordings,
but few answers. Halt typed a formal memo to the
British Ministry of Defense titled Unexplained Lights. It summarized the
sightings at Rendalsham from December twenty sixth to the twenty eighth,
noting the physical evidence and multiple witness statements. Now that memo,
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later released under the UK's Freedom of Information Act, became
one of the cornerstone documents of modern UFO research, but
the Ministry of Defense quietly filed it away, concluding that
the incident posed quote no threat to national security and
no further investigation was conducted, And over the years this
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story refused to die. Yrmann, who had been told to
stay quiet, began speaking publicly. Burroughs and Peniston both went
on record describing encounters with what they believed was a
craft not of this earth. And now this part's crazy.
In twenty fifteen, the U S Department of Veteran Affairs
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acknowledged that Yrmann First Class John Burrows experienced radiation exposure
which affected his heart and vision, and granted him full
disability and medical coverage related to the Randelsham incident. That
is nuts wow. Now. Meanwhile, skeptics insisted the encounters were
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a mix of misidentifications the lighthouse, meteor showers, and military
activity mistaken for something other worldly, but those who were
there maintained that what they saw was structured, intelligent, and
beyond anything conventional. Years later, staff Sergeant Jim Peniston revisited
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that small notebook he had used the night of the encounter.
Inside between sketches of the symbols, remember he wrote down
those symbols from the craft. There were sixteen pages of
binary code, which he said he had written down in
a trance the morning after his encounter. Decades later, in
twenty ten, computer analysts decoded some of this binary message,
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and the message began, this is a quote exploration of
humanity continuous for planetary advancement. What the fuck does that mean?
It included these binary code included coordinates that, when you
plot them, point to sacred and mysterious sites around our world,
the Pyramids of Giza, the Nasca Lines, the Temple of Apollo,
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and a mythical location off Ireland's coast known as hybridsl
said to be home to an ancient advanced civilization. The
fuck at the bottom of the binary translation was a
chilling phrase quote originear eighty one hundred. It suggested, if genuine,
that the visitors Peniston encountered weren't extraterrestrials at all, but
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humans from the far future returning to study the past.
Lieutenant Colonel Holt later recorded an affidavit in twenty ten
reaffirming what he saw. He said, I believe the objects
that I saw were under intelligent control and that they
were of extraterrestrial origin quote end quote. He maintained that
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the UK and the US governments both attempted to suppress
or downplay the incident. Now today, Rendelsom Forrest bears a
quiet memorial to this event, a sculpted metal UFO on
the spot where the craft allegedly landed that night. Again
checked the show notes for pictures of this memorial. Each
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year near Christmas, locals speak of orbs gliding through the fog,
glowing silent just above the trees in the Rendlesham Forest.
Some say it's tourists with drones. Others think it's something
older returning to the place where contact was once made.
Whether it was extraterrestrial, interdimensional US from the future, or
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simply a mixture of natural and human phenomena, the Rendalschrom
Forest case stands as one of the most credible multi
witness UFO encounters ever recorded, involving over sixty military personnel,
physical evidence, and official documentation. And maybe that's why this
story endures. Every December, when the world quiets down, when
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the nights are longest and the stars burn brightest, people
look up and remember that once on a Christmas week
in nineteen eighty something came down from the sky in
the middle of an English forest and left hind the
mystery that still glows like the Christmas Star through time.
Do you remember this story now?
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Nope? So I remember the RAF what's it called?
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Bentwaters and Woodbridge?
Speaker 3 (47:13):
Woodbridge, that's the one. I remember that one. I was
trying to remember, like any details of jumping at me.
I was thinking about it and the RAF thing reminds
me of it because it's so specific, like that acronym.
It's kind of popular. I think I brought up once
in a story, so maybe that's where it's coming from.
Woodbridge sounded familiar, not familiar enough way to remember this story.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Though it's been a while since we've done it.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
I guess so. But I mean it's but usually like
you know, when you when you watch a movie that
you think you haven't seen and then you realize pretty quickly, oh,
I've seen this before when you start watching it, I
would think that I would remember it, so like, no, no,
I still didn't. That's all right.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Now. This next one is one that's I'm surprised we
haven't covered. Like when we talked about the we do
that UFO, the three part alien An episode and stuff.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
That's one way we did the Washington coverage. What was
that different one the state.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
In a different one.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
We did UFO alien stuff about an island off of
this in Washington. I forget the name of it. That
was the that the same one thing. Okay, oh man,
it's I remember that one. I think as I reared
slapped my mind.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Oh that was your research.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
I think that might have been.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I know, I know the incident I just can't think of.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah, I remember the donuts in the air. That's what
it was.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
I was dropping Yeah, yeah on him and his son
dog's boat, killed his dog in the boat.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah. Sometimes I like parts like hot metal pieces. Yes, yes,
UFO is former part. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Well, this one's kind of similar. Nothing dropped like and
kills people. But yeah, so this one, this is the
third story. This is the Kechsburg UFO incident. Kech Kexburg, Pennsylvania.
K k S can excuse me, k eks.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
B Rgburgh is kind of strange.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
So this was an evening of December ninth, nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
As families we were born like that's my birthday.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
As families prepared for the holidays, the skies over the
American Midwest and Ontario, Canada were torn open by a brilliant,
otherworldly light. Thousands of people looked up not to see
the Christmas Star, but to see a massive fireball, far
larger and slower than any typical shooting star, streaking across
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the late afternoon sky. It was seen from at least
six different states and produce sonic booms that rattled windows.
But this was no ordinary meteor. Witnesses reported it made strange,
controlled turns, as guided by intelligence, before disappearing from view
like a missal kind of yeah. In the small quiet
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town of Keexburg, Pennsylvania, the phenomenon became terrifyingly immediate. Residents
heard a loud, crashing thump that shook the earth, windows
rattled in their frames, and the very ground beneath their
feet trembled as if something immense had struck home. They
saw wisps of strange blue smoke rising from the nearby woods,
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and they reported a peculiar odor, like burning sulfur or
high voltage electricity. Something not out of this world had fallen,
something had crashed, and the local volunteer fire department was
among the first to respond. What they found in the
forest was seared into their memories. Firefighter Bill Blue Bush
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Blue Bush and others described an object unlike anything they
had ever seen. It was not a charred rock, but
a manufactured craft shaped like a giant acorn or a bell. Roughly,
they described it the size of a Volkswagen beetle, A
big big yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, I mean depends what year, but still.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yeah, well this is in sixty five, so oh yeah, yeah,
you're right. They said that this thing was made of
dull metallic material, seamless and featureless.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
What does this doll mean in this case? That sharp
all I meantive? Okay, okay, that's what they mean. Yeah,
like a dull I was thinking like a sword. Dull sword,
That's what I was thinking, Like.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Oh that dull No, no, yeah, doll is that's.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
What I imagine. And now I'm back on board.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
So this thing was dull metallic material, seamless and featureless
save for a band around its base, inscribed with these
strange hiero griffic like hieroglyphic like symbols. Again, we're seeing
this just like in the rendel stim forest incident, these hieroglyphs.
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The object was partially buried embedded in the forest floor
a result the crash landing, and it gave off a faint,
eerie blue glow. These initial reports would ignite a mystery
that would burn for decades, the Kesburg UFO incident. Now
the official response was swift and severe. Within hours, the
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scene was transformed. State police were joined by what witnesses
described as US Army personnel, who swiftly cordoned off the
entire area. The local firefighters and curious residents were told
to leave, get out, the military asserting it was just
a meteorite and there was nothing to see, but their
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actions betrayed their words. The area was locked down under
a veil of secrecy. Witnesses observed a large military flatbed
truck being backed into those woods, and later that same
truck was seen leaving carrying a large tarp shrouded object
the same size and shape as that eggcorn light craft.
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The sequence was clear, crash, obstruct and remove crash landing,
obstruct from view from the public, removed the debris the item.
The cover up then moved to silence the press. A
guy named John Murphy this kind of tenacious reporter for
a local radio station over there in Kecksburg, w HJB.
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He was one of the first people on the scene
and he got to interview witnesses and take photos of
the object before the military arrived. And he also recorded
an explosive news report detailing the object and the military recovery.
But before the report could air, two men in dark suits,
identifying themselves as government officials, visited the radio station, visited
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John Murphy John Murphy, and after a lengthy meeting with Murphy,
that story was gutted. The broadcast version of his story
parroted the official nothing found narrative. After this meeting with
the men in dark suits? Were they the men in black?
The wife and friend Murphy's wife and friends said that
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he was a changed man, becoming withdrawn and nervous, and
while vacationing in California a few years later, in nineteen
sixty nine, Murphy was killed in a mysterious, unsolved hit
and run accident. He was crossing the street and the
car ran him over.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
This sounds familiar to me.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Adding a dark, tragic coda to the silencing of the Textburg,
Texsburg story. And afterwards it was discovered that Murphy's notebooks, tapes,
and photos from the Textsburgh incident mysteriously disappeared.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
Oh no, just that this is something really familiar. It
sounds like that one guy, uh, going back to that
story that we can't think the name of about, you know,
with the flying donuts hitting his dog. Didn't we have
a friend that kind of betrayed him? Kind of like
the men in back were mentioned the story as well,
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unnamed people in suits just taking over shit, and that
his friend got a hold of some evidence and used
it as leverage to get himself a job with them.
Do you remember any of.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
This is the Men in Black?
Speaker 3 (55:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:20):
No, clue that might be a movie you've seen, bro.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
No, no, no, no, it wasn't. It was about this.
It was like the same, not this story, but it's
a lot of details, sounds very similar and not for
like I'm like remembering half remembering right now. So obviously
I don't have anything concrete. I just noticed there's like
a Teddy bear on top.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Of that bottle to my whiskey collection.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, is that part of the bottle? Okay? Good?
And so I can't I can't give anything concrete, but
it's just it's just it's like triggering everything. It's triggering something.
It's not a movie.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Oh if you think of it, yeah, yeah, you could
put it piece it together now. The official narratives meant
to explain away the Kecksburg Object have always been plagued
by inconsistent inconsistencies, crumbling under the slightest scrutiny. Scientists initially
blamed a bright bolide, which is an exploding meteor, but
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this couldn't explain the object's reported controlled flight. Remember, eyewitness
reported seeing the object maneuvering on its own as it
was coming down, changing course, slowing down, and even doubling
back on its path. Meteors don't do that. The official
explanation from the Air Force and NASA pointed to Cosmos
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ninety six, a Soviet spacecraft bound for Venus that met
a fiery end. This explanation also unraveled quickly. Evidence showed
a catastrophic launch failure had caused Cosmos ninety six to
disintegrate over Canada on a trajectory and timeline that could
not possibly have ended in Kexburg debris. According to how
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this thing was traced after it exploded, couldn't have landed
in Textsburgh, landed somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
Explanation if it could, right, that wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Now?
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Decades later, in the two thousands. Litigation led by journalist
Leslie Keene forced NASA to release documents related to Keexburg.
The agency first claimed to have examined metallic fragments from
the crashed object, only to later admit the records of
this examination were lost or destroyed. It was subsequently revealed
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that the fragments they tested weren't even from the Textburg
craft site, further eroding any trust in any sort of
official narrative. The void of a satisfactory official explanation gave
rise to one of the most fascinating and unnerving theories
that the Kexburgh object was not extra terrestrial but a
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man made Nazi wonder weapon. Is de Glaca the bell
or the Nazi bell? Deglaca? Okay, I looked it up.
That's okay, it.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
Is no, that's that's fine.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
This theory connects the Pennsylvania Woods to the final desperate
days of the Third Reich. According to historical researchers, Deglaca
was a top secret SS project, a device literally shaped
like a large metal bell. It was said to be
filled with a violet mercury based radioactive substance called zeranium
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five twenty five and featured two counter rotating cylinders that
would spin at high sea high speeds to generate a
powerful rotating magnetic field. This is you could look this
shit up.
Speaker 3 (58:42):
It reminds me of this is a little off topic,
but not really. It reminds me of that twin Peaks.
There's a demonic bell, real giant bell in that and
it comes right after a long take of a nuclear
explosion being tested during World War Two.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
That's it, Nazi bell guaranteed that. That's what it's taken
from David Lynch.
Speaker 3 (59:04):
I didn't know, he went, I mean it sounds really
like it. Wow, but that's crazy right.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Well, so the purpose of the bell remains surrounded in mystery,
with theories ranging from anti gravity propulsion to time manipulation
and time travel. Its tests were said to be horrifying,
producing lethal radiation and reducing test animals to a black,
gelatinous sludge hill. Most intriguingly, witnesses described it as having
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a band of hierogriphic like symbols around its base, an
uncanny parallel to the Kexperg object. As World War Two ended,
the story goes at the bell and its lead scientists
were smuggled out of Europe possibly to the United States
as part of an ultra secret extension of Operation paper Clip.
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You know they always say we don't have a US
space program, we have a German space program.
Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Well, yeah, this is it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Because of Braun and everything. This theory posits that what
crashed in Kecksburg was an American built prototype of this
Nazi technology, a secret domestic weapons test that went catastrophically wrong.
This would perfectly explain the military's immediate and aggressive cover up.
It wasn't hiding an alien visitor, but a devastating failure
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of a classified advanced propulsion system born from the ashes
of a Nazi war machine.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I literally got goosebumps reading that part.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
It's it's nuts.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
In the end, Kecksburg is more than a UFO story.
It's a permanent question mark. It persists in pop culture,
enshrined in an annual festival and a full scale acorn
shape model at the local volunteer fire department. It's kind
of like Roswell, right. They have all these festivals and
tourism around this this event. It is a story woven
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from their fiable witness accounts, obvious government smoke screens, and
compelling competing theories, whether it was a Soviet probe, a
rogue meteor, a Nazi derived time machine, or visitor from
another world. The truth was hauled away on a flatbed
truck that December night in nineteen sixty five. The Kexburgh
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incident endures because it represents that fleeting moment when the
unknown touched down in our world, leaving behind not proof,
but a profound and enduring mystery, a ghost story that
continues to flicker like a strange blue glow in the
winter woods. And check out the show notes. I have
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a picture of what Texburg UFO is supposed to look like,
or the model, the bottle they have out there, the
statue they have out there. I guess that's in the
show notes. It's pretty cool, pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Yeah, it's it takes to her a little bit hard
writing people's old and you raised your hand to I
did not raise Why are you saying that to the audience.
They can't see me that, I can't prove it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
That was good though, That was good, Hard Reich. Yeah,
you didn't have to raise the hand though.
Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
I didn't raise the hand. Guys, he's exaggerating. I would
never do that. God, No, I'm good, although I would say, though,
does airing it out make it feel like duller?
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Airing definitely changes it could change his taste.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
But this much more noticeable than previous bottles you have
in here? Is that weird?
Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
I think it's the proof. The proof is low.
Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
It's not a h you're so mad at the proof.
Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Well, they're like ancient age eight years eight years.
Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Well back then they just they didn't need much. It
gets even though you think that they would drink more
and the old like back then, you know, you think
of your your dad and your dad's dad. They drink
a lot, right, so they can take a lot. But no,
it doesn't mean It just means that they have to
go through two bottles for us to get what we
get in one bottle.
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
This is true, hardreak. Okay, this is the fourth story
that's going to morph into a fifth. This was yeah,
story number four. UFOs are Santa in the skies over Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Oh okay, I mean know the connection.
Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
It began with the flash in the headlights, a blur
of white that made our witnesses, Kim and her husband
think of a barn owl. Then it happened again, a
flash of white up in the distance. Owls were a
logical assumption on the remote country roads of West Bend, Wisconsin,
surrounded by cornfields and silence. But then it happened again,
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and when they focused on the sky, logic began to unravel.
It was December one, twenty twenty two, just after ten
forty seven pm Central. The couple driving home from dinner
saw lights descending from the low, overcast sky, not just hovering,
(01:03:57):
but diving down, tracing the path of their headlight beams,
before shooting back up in the sky and vanishing. It
was a silent, three dimensional ballet of something utterly unknown.
Kim pulled over and her hands fumbled for her phone.
What she recorded would soon become the centerpiece of a
mystery that would grip a community. Holy shit, what the
(01:04:21):
hell is that? A voice could be heard whispering on
the video, a mixture of awe and disbelief. On the screen,
a cluster of luminous orbs moved with impossible grace, gathering
and then zipping away at breathtaking speeds. That's awesome, Come on,
show us more. But Kim and her husband weren't the
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only ones watching. Roughly five miles away in a town
called Fredonia, Wisconsin. At nearly the exact same moment, at
ten point fifty pm Central, a man named Ken, a
former police officer, was walking down his driveway to check
his mail. The night was starless and still, the kind
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of cold, quiet emptiness that defines a rule Wisconsin winter.
Then he saw them up in the sky, a group
of lights dancing like fireflies, the size of dinner plates.
They darted and swirled, playing a silent, whimsical game of
tag against the backdrop of the clouds. Ken pulled out
(01:05:26):
his phone and as he began to record the phenomenon escalated.
A wave of lights streaked directly over his head, so
fast that it was over in a second. Then seconds later,
a second, slower wave of lights followed. In a moment
that would later be analyzed frame by frame, a fifth
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light suddenly shot into the formation, sliding into an empty
space as if joining a pre arranged squadron. Two witnesses
four to five miles APay heart two videos same mysterious lights.
When former FBI agent turned TV host and paranormal investigator
(01:06:10):
Ben Hansen and Britney Barbieri, the lead cryptozoologist on Discovery Channels,
lost monster files. When they reviewed the two videos side
by side, the similarities were unmistakable. It was undeniably the
same event, captured from two different vantage points. The timing
sinked to the second, the two wave of lights, the
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strange fade in and fade out, the sudden appearance of
the fifth orb It was all there. From that moment,
the investigation kicked into high gear. The researchers Ben and Britney,
along with the growing team of intrigued locals, including police, firefighters,
an air traffic controller, and National Guard personnel. West Bend,
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Wisconsin has National Guard station. They all started chasing down
every possible explanation for these lights, but all logical theories
fell apart one by one. Owls or some other large
birds of prey instantly dismissed by the witnesses once they
saw the scale and behavior of the lights. This was
not biological military drills. The local airport and National Guard
(01:07:19):
confirmed no exercises were scheduled that night. Besides, these lights
were completely silent, no helicopter sounds, no airplane engines, no propellers,
nothing silent. Commercial advertising lights were also a popular theory.
You know those spotlights that might be outside of a
movie theater or outside of a grand opening at a
(01:07:41):
sporting event. Right, So those lights were really popular theory.
But researchers they called every city hall in that county
and no permits had been issued for lights like that.
In order to run those type of lights, the ones
you see outside those movie premieres or grand openings, you
can't just rent those and plug them in. You need permits.
No permits were issued.
Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Because it could fuck up the airspace, right, like, that's
the idea.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah, it's gotta be something with that, right, gotta be.
Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Or like bothering. It's like having construction after five pm
or something, right like, you can't.
Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
I'm guessing, could bother residents, could bother animals, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
But any permits.
Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
But no permits were issued. And besides, those mystery lights
moved too fast. They showed no visible ground to skybeams,
anything trace down to the ground, and the behavior didn't
match any known advertising technology. As one of those researchers
put it, what are you advertising a cornfield? There's nothing
there in these towns, right, there's nothing advertised. Then the
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plane old Huax theory was also tossed out pretty quickly
due to the complexity of coordinating such a display over
miles of farmland for just a few minutes. No one
never came through and claimed credit, so that made a
hoax seem pretty far fetched. So the core of the
mystery remains, what were these objects that seemed to emerge
(01:09:02):
from within the clouds, that moved with such intelligent precision,
and that were seen by credible, committed witnesses who simply
wanted the truth. Now, I left a link to an
analysis video by Ben Hansen and Brittany Barbieri in the
show notes. Click the link and you could watch these
witnesses videos for yourself. They're amazing, and see if you
(01:09:23):
can figure out what those lights are. But now here's
the kicker. I know for one hundred percent fact that
these stories these lights are true because my wife captured
on video the exact same thing, the exact same lights,
in the night sky over southeast Wisconsin, on December twenty fourth,
(01:09:44):
twenty twenty four Christmas Eve, just last year.
Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
I remember this, Yep, That's why I knew the connection
when you mentioned Senna and the sky or whatever. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Let me tell you how excited I was to come
across other people seeing those same things, other people analyzing
the exact same fucking thing. Yeah, we recorded, agreed, And
again go to the show notes because my video. Our
video is up there as well what we recorded just
last year on Christmas Eve. Now listeners might remember that
we talked about this in one of the last year's
(01:10:14):
Christmas episodes, but I guarantee people out listening right now
they have no idea that we experienced this, And I
literally just found out that there are other witnesses too
the same type of thing back in December twenty twenty two.
Now again check the show notes. I left the linked
to our lights. It's the video is a little long,
but trust me it's worth and especially if you sit
towards the end, it gets really weird. So just a
(01:10:39):
little background on our story. It was Christmas Eve twenty
twenty four and my wife and I and the kids
were driving through Kenosha, Wisconsin, heading home from my in
law's house from our Christmas dinner. It was me, my wife,
my son Nico, and my daughter Talia. I was driving,
my wife was shotgun. Kids were in the back. It
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was maybe eight pm. My in laws like to turn
in early, so I know it wasn't that late now.
Kenosha is a large city in southeast Wisconsin, maybe an
hour depending on traffic, outside of downtown Chicago. Kenosha is a
sandwich right between Milwaukee and Chicago. Sits right on Lake Michigan,
and it has somewhere around one hundred thousand people. This
(01:11:22):
isn't a small town in the middle of nowhere, right,
I mean to me, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were
driving east on Highway fifty when my wife noticed these
strange lights in the sky and she mentioned it to me,
but I didn't see anything while I was driving. Then
she saw him again, and this time the kids saw
him too, So I think I slowed down and I
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started focusing on the sky, and sure shit, I saw him.
These big, bright white lights dancing in the sky, appearing, disappearing, rotating,
flashing in some kind of sequence. It really reminded me
of like car headlights, Like cars were up there in
the clouds with high beams on and they were driving around.
(01:12:05):
And that's the thing. The lights were shining straight out
of the clouds, nothing coming up from the ground, no
beams shining up from ground up. It was like the
sources of these lights were hidden in the clouds, and
we drove around for a long time trying to find
a source for these lights. We never found a thing.
I'm telling you. It was the craziest thing. And to
find out that other people captured the same phenomenon in
(01:12:27):
December unbelievable. So, listeners, who knows, maybe the Christmas Star
or the Star of Bethlehem was a UFO. Maybe Christmas
lights remind us subconsciously of the visitors that come in
the dark during the Christmas season. Every December twenty fourth,
(01:12:48):
millions of us look up to that night sky hoping
to see something magical, but for a few what they
see changes everything. So this Christmas Eve up outside and
see a strange light gliding silently overhead. Remember sometime it
is in Santa Claus. Merry Christmas, listeners.
Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
No, okay, I do remember that very very well, and
I don't have anything to that necessarily because I kind
of knew it. But despite the fact that I didn't know
the other people you mentioned earlier, it's I should have
mentioned this earlier, but there's no break in it to
mention it. It's more of a bit uh fre donia Wisconsin. Yeah,
you know what it reminded me of It's Frenia, the
(01:13:37):
fake country from the Marx Brothers movie Duck Soup. How
the fuck did you know that? Because it sounds just
like it Forrednia. Now there's no extra ease free Doniah,
but it's so close. I was like, I thought you
were making it. Shut up. It's my point, made up country.
(01:13:57):
That's the that's the made up country in ducks that
he is a dictator of whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
I think. It's amazing that you know that.
Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
I think, Yeah, I don't know how. I mean, I
assume it's popular.
Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
I mean, is Mark's brothers. I don't think they're popular.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
I mean with all people like you, sure freak you.
I guess it's poppy with cinophiles. Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
It's cool that you knew that, But no, Fredonia, I've
never heard of it.
Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
That was the first thing I thought.
Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I had to look it up to make sure I
was hearing because I was watching a documentary.
Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
It's like it's like it's like, are you going to
are you going to a lake? Wata Nabby, Like you
wouldn't immediately assume that's real, sounds made up? Like actually
that's a name. I feel like a lot of Wisconsin
lakes have made up sounding names.
Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Oh, Wisconsin is some of the craziest.
Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
There's one with like seventy five k's in them. I've
seen him once. What was the name of that can Van, Khan, Kent, Kive, whatever.
I don't like. What the fuck is that you say? No,
it was like a name for a lake.
Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
It's all indigenous names.
Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Okay, No, that makes no, that makes sense. But they
sound made up and I don't know why. But for Dounia,
is that also indigenous? No?
Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Right, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
I don't know. Sounds.
Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
I also never heard of it. I had to look
it up, so sounds fake.
Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
I thought you were joking.
Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
I was watching a documentary, kind of little story put
together about this twenty twenty two incident of the lights
in the sky, and I heard the name and I
literally just typed into Google ietically have a question, and
it came up like, oh, for Donia, if I do
have an insight now, question, do you think next year,
because it seems like gets skipped every two years, do
you think next year there'll be some more in twenty
(01:15:38):
till the end of twenty twenty six?
Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Yeah, bro, I don't know, right, because I will be
looking this year twenty twenty two guaranteed, right, and then
twenty twenty four last year. And if there is a pattern,
it makes sense the next year, a year from now
roughly there might be another one. I wonder if there
is a pattern, And what does that say?
Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Well, I did send my video into this Ben Hansen,
this uh UFO investigator TV personality guy.
Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Oh, okay, and we're gonna see.
Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
We're gonna see if he contacts me about it, Okay,
because that's some crazy shit. Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Is there like an open line for people to send stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
To him off his website? I found how to contact him, okay,
because he was really into it. He was like what
the what? He didn't swear, He's like what this is? Definitely?
Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Hems blown away and what the thought?
Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Right? You know? Crazy? And the fact that all these
things are happening in December, really close to Christmas. It's
the holiday zone. I think it's a real thing. I
really do. I do.
Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
I mean, uh sure, I mean I don't subscribe to it,
but I get it. I also get the I think human,
I think is very very human. To put like a
name to it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Of course, like you know, we try to rationalize everything.
Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Yeah, exactly, Like that's why we're circul like why do
they do it? Yeah, right, because we can't understand, so
we try to rationalize everything. It must be this. It's
gotta be his mom, man, mom.
Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Yeah, it's always.
Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Mother, the military, STU, he avoided whatever. You know, there's
always a reason.
Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Man. It's weird. It's a weird thing.
Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
That's right. And if this is buying a chance, because
if this is the only Christmas show you listened from
us in twenty twenty five, I guess now it's a
good time for us to wish you. I wish you
will marry Christmas. I'm not saying you wish you. Why
won't you say no? No, I was just gonna say
Merry Christmas and that that's it. You were gonna sing no, no.
I wasn't gonna say sing no, no, no, we sing
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a capella to the listeners. No.
Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
I think they want that. No if they pay me
to No, one's paying us for the ship.
Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
I know, but I'm saying no. What we never talked
about that.
Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
After what November was our ten year anniversary of doing.
Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
This show, I knew that I know the whole time.
What do you mean if I told you about it?
Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Oh? God, yeah we were.
Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Should you want to talk about this now on the show?
Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Happy ten year anniversary to Yeah, the Supernatural Ocurrency Podcasts.
Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
I thought you. I thought you were bos for fucking
ten years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't believe you. I
thought I thought it was on purpose. You forgot?
Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
I did forget? Okay, I'm sorry I did, but uh yeah,
we've been doing it for ten years.
Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
It was last show in November.
Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Yeah, yeah, November was there ten years?
Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
Crazy man? Crazy?
Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Well, you don't have that many more winkles though, you
look roughly the same.
Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Thank you, Thank you. I do that. I do appreciate
because I feel like I'm falling apart. But on that note,
we may we may have a little something something coming
out right.
Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
I don't want to guarantee it.
Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
We may have a little something fine, heartbreak.
Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
If you look in your what are those socks that
they put on fireplaces? When I think of socks, it's
just called socks, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Socks?
Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Stockings, stockings, That's what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
You.
Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
You're fucking with me and you and your Christmas stocking.
There might be another extra bonus for you. We're trying
to say that. Can think of the word fucking stockings.
Also stockings I think of like the liel on thing
that women use. I always think of that. I never
think of a Christmas stocking anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Very good.
Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
We're done?
Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Are we done?
Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
Yes, you're done, bro.
Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
I can't tell you. Yesterday I went to a rave right, yeah?
Or for Have you ever heard of a place called
bourbon On Division? Mm?
Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Hmm, okay, bourbon On Division.
Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
That's the name of the place. It's on division. Guess
what they sell. Hm, it's three floor wave right, and
it's the first thing that's ever happened to me. I
directly my car got towed.
Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Oh no, Jesus, how much did that costs? I think
when talias got told so it was like three hundred
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
She got was here in Wisconsin or downtown Chicago. I
don't know what she did wrong, but mine's I think
it was the lowest I could have ever gotten. Was
one semi five.
Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Yeah, that was pretty cheap. Yeah. She was parked in
the wrong spot down by Chinatown.
Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
And that's what mine was, just parting the spot. I
misread the sign. It I thought it said no parking
between noon and five pm. It was midnight till five am,
which is the exact hours I was there for. Yeah,
that sucks. Where'd you have to go to get it?
Like the fucking hood Humboldt. I wasn't that hood doesn't
(01:21:06):
want a wie. I had to walk there, jeez. It
wasn't part with like a mile and a half, wow,
two miles. So that happened, and man a lot of
people were there's online. That sucked. It was there for
like an hour.
Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Somebody's making tons of money. I think it's run by
the mafia or some ship. It's gotta be na no, you.
Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Know, politicians like regular The Mob is much more toothless
these days.
Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Kidding. You see all the ship coming out with the
Mob and all the sports betting and rigging the games.
It's all the five families.
Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Yeah, but it's it's still toothless, like it's it's bloodless.
Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Maybe no, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
I read the stuff on it. This was back when
we did some hop show years ago now, and it's
just like there's no room for you don't have to
part case anybody. It's filling in junction. You'll get it anyway,
like you know, it's so much easier to steal people,
you know, to rob people or make them give devices.
(01:22:18):
You know, just charge them a lot. You're your own loan, Chuck,
You're your own everything. You don't need an enforcer. They're
basically legitimate businesses because we're all fucked up and corrupt anyway.
You could just follow the hurricles of incorporation, you know.
That's what I mean. It's like they just joined the pack,
so to speak. Yeah, and I just watched finish It today,
(01:22:39):
the Scorsese documentary. Have you seen it? There's a five
part Wow mini series on Scorsese kind of follows obviously
from beginning to his last movie Crazy pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
What was his last.
Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Movie, Killers of the Flower Moon.
Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Yeah, it was great. I really liked it. I just
thought it was glued to that ship. And I'm usually
never but I was like, yeah, I'm like this filmmaker.
I would I thought you would have seen it.
Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
No, I haven't seen any documentaries in a while.
Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
It's not even ninety proof. Okay, students in five four three,
motherfucking chew.
Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Listeners, welcome back to the show. Well, the lights are
turned down low. The ceremonial