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the evening. As I mentioned right off the top, she
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is a noted filmmaker among the folks that are involved
in independent film in particular, she's extremely well known and
she's got a situation that's kind of unique, although I
wish it was more unique, as of lately it has
become a little more commonplace. But we'll get into that
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when you welcome on board as I am right now,
Miss Jen gaish Jen. First of all, thank you so
much for joining us this evening, taking time out of
your valuable schedule, and before we just.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Joined, a delight to be here.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Thank you. So before we jump into anything at all,
how are you today?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I mean, I'm good. I'm I'm hanging in there. It's
a wild time in history, and I'm feeling hopeful. You know,
I'm actually feeling really hopeful.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, that's that's good. And you know the thing about
being involved in times such as these, where there's so
many different moving parts, we feel like we're definitely in
the midst of a culture shift, and it's one where
the battle over the direction that it's going to end at.
(07:16):
But certainly nowhere's near settled. But we can kind of
feel momentum swinging back and forth a bit, and that
normally bodes well for creatives when you look for inspiration.
It doesn't always vode so well for the creatives if
the wrong side of that cultural change happens to Gardner control.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That's really beautifully and poetically said, I you know, for me,
right now, I feel like we're entering an era in
which we're not walking on eggshells. There seems to be
the ability to express yourself without worrying about being canceled.
And certainly in the business I'm in that we've been
preoccupied with that for the last four years.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
All right, So get to the meat and potatoes. That
thing you've been working on a documentary that has a
lot to do with the attempt to overthrow Nicholas Maderno
in Venezuela, And that's a bit of information that not
a lot of people are aware of even at this point.
So it was a very unique what's the word I'm
(08:23):
looking for, It's a unique subject matter given that so
few people know, which is why it makes it perfect
for documentary purposes. And it was all because you were
able to to get in contact with a former Green Beret.
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He was really one of the atomists of creation of
the documentary itself. So if you don't mind for the
benefit of the listeners, obviously we want to generate folks
looking for it and coming your way, tell us a
little bit about the docum mentory itself and how you
came into contact with this former Green Beret.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
You know, it's funny because military cups aren't you know,
the subject matter aren't in my wheelhouse typically, and so
it's sort of a a unique, as you use that word,
story in that it was at the height of COVID
and I was in Florida really having an existential crisis
about what the direction of my life would be with
(09:30):
you know, everything shut down. What was it going to
mean for work? And having done seventeen scripted films, I
was usually working with, you know, crews of fifty people casts,
and all of that came to you know, a screeching halt,
as it did for many people in terms of what
they were doing for a living. And I thought I
could only find a subject that maybe I could start
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a documentary and one man bandit and how do I
find a subject? And I didn't know what was going
to come my way until one Sunday morning I went
to read the newspapers and saw these headlines about this
failed coup in Venezuela, and the entire blame for the
failure was placed on one individual who was a former
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decorated Green Beret who had gone rogue, and he had
done this you know, wild, you know, mishap, and it
just struck me immediately that the way in which it
was being reported just couldn't It wasn't conceivable that one
person could try to overturn a dictator in the country
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like Venezuela. There had to be other people involved. He
had to have had some four A entry permission sanctioned
to be able to do something like this. And so
it was as simple as looking him up on the internet,
finding a phone number, and just taking a wild stab
at it, thinking, Okay, this is going to probably go nowhere,
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but I'll text this phone number and said I'm a
filmmaker and your story sounds like something i'd really like
to explore if you're open to it, and when the
text bubble was blue, indicating that we were both on
an iPhone, but it was an active phone number. I
got a response, and I was really surprised, But it began.
It began what was four years of my life of
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following someone and trying to understand how this thing came together,
what was the motivation. I really wanted to understand why
someone would take on something like this and who else
was involved.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, because let's base back. I think this audience is
well aware of the fact that you don't become a
decorated member of a special forces group if you are
prone to going off script. You know, you don't just
take matters into your own hands whenever you feel like it.
While if you are an officer, you certainly trained that
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you have to walk that fine line between following orders
and then knowing which ones not to. The expectation is there,
And like you said that, from the way it was
being reported out the gate, it certainly looked like Jordan
was a fall guy more than somebody that took it
upon himself to get involved with locals and say, okay, Maderno,
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you've got to go. Nicholas was not a good guy.
I spent a lot of time on the show talking
about that back when that was a thing before he
passed away, and you know, it really comes down to,
actually it's the previous dictator down there who passed away.
But yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, but yeah, when Nicholas Maderno
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took over, it was just a continuation of Shabaz and
he unfortunately ended up having to deal with the previous
years of all the socialism that led to bad and
negative things for the people. And he's been looked at
as a bit more of a ball guy, although everything
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had already been in effect. It's just Chavez got to
take all the glory of what a little bit there was,
you know, as somebody that supported him at that time.
If you were in Venezuela and you elected him and
moved him into that position, he never faced the criticism,
the harshness from Venezuelan's but there was no question once
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Nicholas Maduro took over, even the people when they when
you get to a point where you're having to eat
zoo animals to survive, there's not a lot of popularity
going around. You have to hold yourself in position, so
it seems like you would be a good target for
a coup. But yeah, again, that's not going to happen
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from one American Army green beret.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Right, And so it just it got it sort of
became like a rabbit hole of like looking at the
evidence and there was a lot of cat and else
with Jordan. Jordan was you know, skeptical, thought I was
a journalist that I was going to sort of make
fun of him the way that he was being reported on.
And I really it's paily astute for you to say
that a Special Forces veteran who's three you know, three
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Bronze stars for bravery and valor is not someone that's
known for doing this, you know, something super erratic and
you know, off script like you just said. So I
really wanted to use it as an opportunity, at least
with the film. I thought like, there's a world event,
which in my world, if selling a movie, does you
know the people they love nothing more than a writ
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from the headline story. But I really wanted to humanize
it and find out what makes someone want to put
their life on the line repeatedly. What is it like
to be deployed eleven twelve times, which is the case
for Jordan, And what does that do to one's you know,
life and rooting and if you're really only good at war,
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if you think you're only good at war, then how
do you adapt to society? And it was for me,
not having any military family members or veterans, it was
a real deep dive into that community, and I really
wanted to honor it by not reducing him to a caricature,
but doing a deep understanding of how someone goes into
these upper ranks. And then when you're told, okay, you've
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got to retire out, you're forcibly retired out for combat injuries,
how do you adapt to this new life. You've got
to find for yourself a new path and it's a struggle,
and it's a struggle not just for Jordan, but many veterans.
When I learned that the deaths of Vietnam, Iraq, and
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Afghanistan combined don't come close the amount of deaths from suicide,
I thought, Okay, there's what's happening in the training and
what's happening when you try to come back, and it's
I think it's a really deep psychological explore and giving
Jordan's agency over his own story, which is something that
the headlines certainly didn't didn't allow him to do right.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
And I think that's one of the bigger tragedies of
the effort of the previous administration to try and intimidate
you into essentially not moving this story forward and putting
forth because regardless of how you might feel about Jordan,
in particular, the fact that you did that deep diy.
(16:30):
I mean, you were telling more than that. And I'm
not certain that there's ever been a time in this
nation where it's more important for the civilian to understand
the depths at which are veterans who go and see combat,
especially modern combat, how that affects them, and how they
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struggle and trying to reacclimate. And it feels like it's
a lot harder now for veterans to that then it
has been in decades gone by, And I'm not certain
if it has to do with the way we've sterilized
a lot of our images and then kind of desensitized
(17:13):
through pop media and then come to realize once you're
in that position, if you're actually seeing people around you
being blown up or shot, or you're doing the shooting,
whatever it may end up being, it still is so
much of a different visceral experience. It's impossible for a
(17:35):
civilian to even begin to phantom that, and that was
I think probably the most important part of the story
you're telling is trying to help people to better understand it.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I really wanted to understand it because ISAA civilians felt like, oh,
when veterans get back from war, they must be so
happy they've made it their home. And it was a
real eye opener for me to understand that for Jordan,
and I can't speak for all veterans, but it was
eye opening Swedish that he preferred being at war. It
was harder for him to adapt being back and what
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he was so good at and celebrated for. He'd come
back and have, you know, no family to come back to,
no community. Really he's on his own and he's being redeployed.
You know, he's back for three months and you're redeployed.
And that maybe is the difference with this generation of
veterans today is it's a volunteer Okay, it's a volunteer
(18:29):
based to go to war, you choose to go, and
it's a perpetual war and that Afghanistan went on for
twenty years, so it's a cycle where in World War
one or two, you'd go and do your service, you'd
come back, you'd have your family, and you'd move on.
But there are many For many people, it's you know,
two decades of war and what that does to your
(18:49):
mind and body. And I really wanted to so that
what Jordan gets this call and is recruited to do
something which for him is what he's built for. Can
liberate a venezuela and help. It's his motto is free
the oppressed. As a Green Beret, he took it quite literally,
and it was like an opportunity for him to use
(19:10):
the skill set that he he was meant for. And
it's like, so I wanted to just explore the thing
that he thinks is going to be his call, you know,
to do this great thing ends up being this devastation
and how and how one recovers from that, and and
so the film is very I think you go in
(19:30):
thinking it's gonna be this wild adventure, and I maybe
trick viewers into thinking it's gonna be this wild ride,
and it actually ends up being a really big thought
piece on what it's like to be in the upper
ranks of the military, the units in which Jordan's served
(19:51):
make up point five percent of the military. I mean
he was at the upper upper upper, and sort of like,
what what how you what that person? You know, how
they make decisions, what motivates them every day? I really
wanted to do a deep dive into it.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, well, yeah, it is one of those things. I think.
Another one of those differences between now and before is
there was a much better effort by communities to help
welcome people back and to make them feel like they
had done good work in serving the country and helping
(20:29):
to keep the communities safe without having any real idea
of what it was exactly they've done. That was an
attitude that tended to change in general, unfortunately during the
Vietnam era, and so naturally we start seeing the suicide
rates go up for veterans at that point, and it
(20:52):
just continued to skyrocket from there. But you know, again,
when you're looking at somebody who has basically establish their identity,
it's being a warrior, and that's certainly what sounds like
in Jordan's case. It has to be a special kind
of pain to not only feel like you've been rejected,
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but almost feel as if you've been betrayed by the
very people that you swore in allegiance.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
To yes, and it's like It's what I learned also,
is that being a soldier isn't a job, it's who
you are. Like you just described an identity. So when
that's stripped from you and that's all you've known, and
you've got to remember these are formative years that many
members of the military enter at eighteen nineteen. Your whole
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you know, how you are, how you see the world
as shaped during those formative years. And if the very
thing that you've been think you are, you are no
longer you know, it's devastating and define purpose and mission
is what I learned, at least for in Jordan's case,
is what he needs in order. It's just how he's
wired after having been in the military for so long
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and without a mission or purpose, it's where you know,
you start to think about uside truthfully or just my
why am I here? And it goes into some really
dark places, which again I do in the documentary Explore.
You know, Jordan got pretty raw in the film of
just feeling like, you know, the weight of what went wrong,
(22:24):
and I was whole life cell apart he was very
It took a lot of time to build that trust
because he has an armor, you know, figuratively, has an
armor to really like baring his soul and he and
I think the film is successful and really showing him
in all his complications, you know, and and all his nuances.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
One last question before we start winding down, curious in
the process, what was the most surprising thing to you
once you really got into this scenario that you kind
of certainly didn't expect. But was there any particular, one
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thing above anything else that just hit you in a
way that you would have never imagined if you hadn't
ended up doing the film.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I believe it was really seeing how soldiers are have
a really kind of romanticized view of the world and
really see things through a lens of the good guys
and bad guys, and really believe in something greater than themselves.
And I, you know, what I really found is that
the politicians in this thing really unveiled themselves to be
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that these they see military and people like Jordan as
Ponds in a game for game and it doesn't come
as a surprise, But at the end of the day,
they always say it comes down to the money. And
I really saw this in this story that Jordan and
other people that had joined this effort to remove a duro,
I really believed did it wanting a greater good. And
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I do think that the puppet strings being told, we're
really this is more about oil and money and control,
and just experiencing at firsthand, I guess was different having,
you know, when you read about something, but like really
doing a deep dive into this and seeing and talking
to what motivated Jordan to do this, and then just
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seeing how many people we're making a ton of money
off of this play at the expense of humans lives,
and that's a tale as old as time.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Right, Yeah, unfortunately it is. So the name of the
documentary is Men of War. I know it's been viewed
at some film festivals. Is this widely available or available
for folks to see on the regular at this moment
in time.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
It's not yet, but we're expecting a release later in
the fall, so as thinks, you know, the things are
unfolding in the story also, so I expect to do
some editorial changes from the time it premied, just because
right when it was being announced to go to a
film festival was the time in which Jordan was charged criminally,
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and so it's brought on. Obviously, I thought this story
was going to end, and it hasn't ended.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
So yeah, a whole new chapter has opened. And when
that finally settles, I hope we can get back together
again and go into a little more detail, because I
know you've got some concerns about what you can and
can't say on your end, because you're being kind of
looked at based on what information you had available to
(25:39):
so you have to be very cautious and I certainly
appreciate that. Please, Jen, I want to give you an
opportunity to close out with any final thoughts you'd like to,
and I'd also love for you to share any websites,
any any way that folks can find some of your
previous work and just direct them where you would like
(26:00):
them to come find you, including if you're active on
social media, your handles and platforms they can find you on,
just basically all the good stuff that lets them know
you can be found.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I'm so appreciative. Yes, my company is called deer Gen
like the animal deer, so it's d e E R
j e EN. My handle on x is the same.
My website is deargen dot com and I'm very appreciative
of this time on your show. It's like it's been
lovely to speak about the film in terms of the
things that mattered most to me and making it. Oftentimes
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people want to just talk about the sensationals side of it,
and I do pride myself on really not wanting to
exploit the subjects of my film, but really give them
an opportunity to have agency over their own story and feel.
I want everyone to walk away feeling like they had
a fair shot, and that was the most important part
of doing this film for me. And there'll be some
(26:58):
news soon about a scripted version of the story with
a Hollywood actor who has come aboard, and so there's
some exciting things happening around then of work.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
All right, well, it certainly sounds like a positive path forward.
I certainly hope that to be the case. Thank you
so much for coming on. I appreciate getting to talk
to you. And it is one of those situations where
if you wanted to do sensationalism, you would do a
fictional scripted bit. If you're doing a documentary, that should
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be about revealing truth, and I think in order to
get the feel for how legitimate that is. You have
to kind of have that honest conversation where you're talking
about and that's why I prefer to have this conversation.
I certainly appreciate the fact that not only have you
done the work, but that you're standing behind this in
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a way that most film makers don't ever have to. So,
you know, God speed to you. Keep up the good
work and it will stand strong where you need to.
And like I said, I hope we can get together
again a little further down the road and continue telling
the story.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I'm so honored to be a part of your show tonight.
Thank you so so much. I appreciate it. I look
forward to it talking next time.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
All right, okay, ladies and gentlemen, That of course is
miss Jen Gash And don't go anywhere. We'll be right
back here in just a bit. You're flying high with
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and gentlemen, please welcome. He is a senior fellow at
the Lexington Institute. He has been with us before. Ladies
and gentlemen, mister Paul Stidler, Paul, thank you so much
for coming on with us again. And before we jump
into the topic, how are you today?
Speaker 11 (38:37):
I'm doing great, Tim, and thank you for having me back.
It's great to be back with you and your audience again.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
All right, well, I certainly appreciate that as well. Let's
jump right in, shall we. We've seen big tech trying
to move in a direction where they will be a
little more friendly or viewed friendly by Trump two point zero.
A lot of them have a lot of making up
(39:04):
to do to the American public, not just a Donald Trump.
But we've got a lot of different things going on
right now where big tech is fine kind of being
caught with their pants down, so to speak. This Chinese
release of Deep Seek and everything surrounding that is really
put our AI well, our belief that we are leaps
(39:28):
and bounds ahead of everyone in AI in question. But
there's still a lot of privacy issues in play. And
you know, we got promises that fact checking was going away,
and yet some folks are still being fact checked. What,
in your opinion, is the general crux. Is this an
attempt for big tech to ingratiate themselves on a temporary
(39:52):
basis so they can float to the next administration, or
is there a genuine effort at reform here as far
as you can.
Speaker 11 (39:59):
Tell, well, there's a lot there to unpack him. But
I think what is most important to keep in mind
is that excuse me. President Trump wants to bring about
a golden age in America. He wants to create immense
amounts of prosperity, get it to people who haven't prospered
(40:21):
as much in the past. And one of the central
ways to do that is for the United States to
be the worldwide leader in artificial intelligence. That is, basically
enhanced computing power that will enable us to grow our
food more efficiently, to manufacture more efficiently, to find cures
(40:43):
for diseases, and things along those lines. So in order
to realize that, you're going to need American's private sector,
the private sector tech companies to make major investments in
that area, which they've already been doing. And what the
President has done from the inauguration and other times is
(41:08):
to basically hit the reset button with them and to say, look,
is in the country's best interest for you to succeed,
for artificial intelligence to succeed, for us to grow and
to expand out there. And you know, as far as
(41:28):
things go on the free speech front, the President's had
a lot of successes there. He just won a verdict
this week for twenty five million dollars against Meta for
I think it was a settlement. Actually for his two
thousand and twenty one lawsuit against them. You know, the
tech companies have dropped a lot of the disturbing activity
(41:51):
that they were doing with fact checking and things along
those lines, a lot of which have just reached really
absurd proportions. And I do think it's also important to
keep in mind, while there may have been a natural
inclination among some of those companies to go into that direction,
(42:13):
it was a lot of intimidation from the Biden administration
that came down on those companies, demanding that they censor
people who had different views about vaccines and things along
those lines. You know, the Constitution is very clear and
the law is very clear. If you can say something
(42:33):
under the First Amendment, you should be able to say
it on a platform. And Senator Ran Paul has introduced
some legislation in that regard. That might be helpful to
get that in and get get that enacted. But I
think even more positive here is just the fact that
we've had a return to common sense, and we've had
(42:56):
a real I think recoiling not only by conservatives but
a lot of other people out there about controlled speech.
And I think it's going to be difficult to run
that play again if President Trump or someone like him
is not in office after his term expires. So I
(43:17):
think we should have a lot of optimism here. There's
there's a lot of positive developments, and we are in
a significant economic competition with China on AI. They're very smart,
they have smart people, they have a lot of government
money going into this. And I don't want to live
(43:39):
in a world where the Chinese, the Chinese atheistic communists
are going to be the ones dictating what type of
technology we have and be the ones leading and driving
the world. So what President Trump is doing and the
need to develop AI is crucial on so many fronts.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, you know. More to your point, I don't want
to live in a world where China's dominating either for
a multitude of reasons, but mostly they're about to drop
a joke. My Mandarin is horrible. My East Tennessee tongue
barely speaks English. I would hate to have to pick
(44:21):
up a Cantonese dialect. It would not bode well for me.
But it is a real situation where I think not
a lot of folks truly understand the long ranging goals
China's efforts at dominance isn't just economic. They truly want
to be the world superpower. They want to shrink anyone
(44:47):
else that might challenge them, and they obviously would prefer
not to do it through military terms. But I do
think they do have their eye on Taiwan, and this
race over I think may have just taken a bad
turn for Taiwan because the whole argument for US having
(45:07):
an interest there is the top of the line super chips,
and China just showed that. And I'm highly suspicious, but
I can't prove it, so I don't want to just
basically throw out an accusation, but I think most people
kind of know it. China probably borrowed some intellectual property
(45:29):
without permission in creating this, but they managed to get
a very high functioning AI with a substandardship by the
Taiwan standards. So does this really change our national interest
in keeping Taiwan separate from China proper?
Speaker 11 (45:53):
It's a big win for China, no doubt about it.
The development that Deep Seek had doing so at lower
costs and basically generating something that is similar in power
to chat GPT, the other search engine, the other AI
(46:18):
similarly out there is a big, big deal but you know,
right now, the US is leading China in AI. China
has set a goal to be the world's clear AI
leader by twenty thirty, and I think we have to realize,
you know, this is a big win that China had
last weekend when they came out with this. But all
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that that means is we have to double down on
our game and just do the things that we have
to do, make the investments, get government unnecessary government regulation
out of the area, take on companies in Europe that
are trying to impose massive fines and massive regulations on
(47:03):
US companies but not on Chinese companies. And you know
the analogy I would use here, Tim, if if you
can indulge me on this for a second, I'm an
Ohio State football fan, and Ohio State really didn't play
anybody hard this year. They were, you know, ranked up
in the top of the rankings, lost to Michigan, just
(47:26):
utterly humiliated after that, and then use that as motivation
to take things to a new level. So hopefully that's
what you know, we as a country and folks in
the technic history will do as a result of this
deep seek investment, in this deep seak coup here, and
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they're gonna be ups and downs, you know, back back
and forth as far as it goes. It's a big investment.
China has big AI capabilities, much bigger and stronger than
anything in Europe, for example, and we just have to
realize we're in a fight, and we got to we
got to stay focused on it.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
You know.
Speaker 11 (48:11):
President Trump even said that he thought it was a
good thing for those for those very reasons, because it will,
you know, sharpen everybody's focus here. So that I found
that that insight to be rather interesting, right, You know.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
That that is kind of the Trump mentality, though I
think he he thrives on the concept of pulling together
a team of rivals. He likes the iron sharpening iron mentality.
And it really is difficult to to keep your eye
on the ball sometimes to continue the constant path of
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continuous improvement if you feel like you're so far ahead
of everyone else. So it is good to occasionally take
as humble here and there to realize that, oh yeah,
we're not invulnerable, and oh yeah, if you're setting still,
somebody's going to be passing you soon. Uh so, I
(49:09):
and I, while I fully appreciate your analogy, because I
think the analogy itself is spot on. As a University
of Tennessee fan and the first victim of Ohio State
in the playoffs, I don't particularly appreciate you bringing that up, sir.
Speaker 11 (49:23):
Now I'm kidding, Okay, I should have I should have
thought of that before beforehand. Your your your points well taken,
and you guys had a very good team though a
very good year.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, I appreciate it. But if if as Americans we
can't have a little bit of fun over football, how
far gone? What are we fighting for?
Speaker 11 (49:44):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Paul? I appreciate everything you're focused here, but one last
question before we start winding down, and this kind of
falls into the wheelhouse of the Lexington Institute in particular,
you talked about if we can get government regulations out
of the way. Isn't that ultimately at this point as
far gone as our government has been allowed to move
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away from constitutional constraints that we had put in place
in that the biggest challenge overall for any innovation right.
Speaker 11 (50:18):
Now, it's a big challenge. It's much less of a
challenge because of many of the executive orders that President
Trump put in place. You know, he undid an executive
order from President Biden on AI which just had a
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lot of very onerous reporting requirements and calling bureaucrats and
check out on different developments in different models and things
along those lines. There was also an ideological bents to
what the Biden administration had in some of the AI
(51:01):
development you know, executive orders and promulgations that they had
put forward, so that that's good to see, But we
have a you know, we have a big fundamental problem
in this country of the fourth Administrative State and all
these voluminous, odorous laws that and rules and regulations that
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are issued every day. I mean probably Tim, you and
I violate a whole bunch of them without even knowing it,
and just by doing our daily activity that's out there.
That's how extensive they've become. And it is good to
see that this administration wants to wants to take that
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on as well. So while there's been some immediate relief
on the AI front, you know, certainly, you know, if
we're going to get to an economy that's going to
be more efficient and the government that's going to be
more efficient, we're going to have to get rid of
a lot of these wholly unnecessary regulations and rules and
(52:09):
forums and micromanaging items that are ound.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Now, Yeah, yeah, there's certainly a lot of work to do.
And I am so grateful that Donald Trump learned a
lot of valuable lessons in his first attempt, and he
knows that not only does he have to stay on
the move moving the stuff forward, but he has to
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be prepared by getting his people in place, and by
constantly barraging this machine gun executive order, correcting past errors,
and trying to nudge the Republicans in the devote, the
House and the Senate to move forward with legislation that's
going to fix things if you keep them coming bang
(52:56):
bang bang. And by the time the other sides figured
out a way to start pushing back, there's ten more
things they have to be hitting the panic button. About
that much seems positive. It's just there's so much work
to do. There's only so much this administration can accomplish.
But God speed to them, and God speed to use
(53:19):
as well. Paul, Please, before you go, let everybody know
where they can find your work. Let them share all
the websites. If you invite people to follow you on
social media, feel free to share handles and platforms and
any closing thought you'd like to share as well.
Speaker 11 (53:37):
Now is the time, sir, sure, no, Thank you, Tim.
The Lexington Institute are you know. We're a free market
think tank in Arlington, Virginia, just outside of DC. Our
website is Lexington Institute dot org. People can also follow
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me on Twitter at my name at Paul Styler S
T E I D L E R. And you know,
it's it's always great to connect with you here, Tim,
and we're gonna be following these issues. There's a lot
to unpack.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
You know.
Speaker 11 (54:19):
Things are well less than two weeks into the new
administration here, and still a lot of stuff that we
have to read and get caught up on, and a
lot of things over the past couple of years that
have to get straightened out. And unfortunately you can't do
it all in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Absolutely all right, Paul, again, thank you so much for
coming on with us. I appreciate you being here, your insights,
your effort, and the work you're doing. It's important stuff
and we don't have enough people taking the time to
actually read over the material and do what a think
tank does actually think about it. It's almost a lost art,
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so I appreciate you guys doing that as well. God
speak to you, and hopefully we can get back together
soon and continue the discussion.
Speaker 11 (55:07):
That would be great, Tim, and thank you again for
the opportunity to join you.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Absolutely, Ladies and gentlemen, That, of course is mister Paul Steidler.
He is a senior fellow at the Lexington Institute. If
you're not familiar with him, obviously you need to go
to Lexington Institute dot org and check him out. A
lot of great articles being posted there all the time.
I should visit more often. I'll admit I've been naughty
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at least once a week. And of course I'm getting
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so much for coming back on with us once again.
How are you today, my friend?
Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Near perfect, near perfect? Thanks so much for having me
this evening. And yeah, it's just an honor to be
here as all ways.
Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Well, I certainly appreciate that sentiment, but I assure you,
sir that the honor is mine and it's always free
to get to talk to you regardless. And it feels
like we don't do it enough. But Dad Gummett, if
I had you on every day, eventually I would just
have to sit back and you would be the host.
So you've got your own work to do. Oh man,
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I'm feeling pretty good right about now, but I kind
of feel almost guilty about it, considering the first topic
I wanted to discuss with you, and that, of course,
is the aviation tragedy that happened at Reagan National. So
many questions still ongoing, a lot of information that has
not been released yet, and the one thing that's happening here,
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I feel like it's kind of the same thing that
now happens all the time. If there is a tragedy
that garners a lot of headlines and a lot of attentionion,
nobody can leave it alone long enough to let the
families affected mourn, And we've got to start politicizing everything
before the bodies are cold, and that absurdity. It hurts
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to be the prevailing mindset among Americans. But there are
some political things that do need to be considered, not
the least of which is how DEI hiring practices under
the Biden administration affected this because while it may not
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have led to any type of incompetence of the people
that were operating in the tower, the control tower, it
certainly is the primary reason why they were so ridiculously shorthanded.
But as you are so fond of saying, sir, what
say you?
Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
You know, when it first broke out and when you
see this helicopter just go straight in a B line
right towards that jet. I had some I guess, some
nefarious thoughts of my own, I have to admit that.
But then when you look, let's when you get wind
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of the communications that was going on. Why would an
air traffic control to be saying do you see the jet?
Do you see it? Do you see it? What they
should have been doing is directing them to go under
or over. And when they were saying do you see it?
Do you see it? They were not that far from it,
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were heading towards that plane, and the communications was not
adequate for the situation. And that's just my opinion, just
from the tiny bit that I know. Yeah, uh, the
DEI situation, not only there were many under under. Do
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Was it midgets people with turetts? Maybe exaggerating here a
little bit, but uh, people that were that had mental problems.
I know that was a part of it. I know
that was a serious product part of it. And see
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this DEI CRT crap has, you know, messed up our
nation all the way around. It's invaded the military, it's
invaded teaching, it's invaded medicine, it's invaded our homes. No,
but Tim, I gotta tell you there is something behind this,
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maybe not this particular event, but there is an overall
goal of bringing about massive problems through all these DEI hires.
And wasn't it Was it yesterday or the day before,
these individuals, mainly big black females screaming about how there's
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to be uh protests and this, that and the other,
because we're saying, well, wait a minute, we should stop
hiring dumb people where you need smart people. I mean,
and what is it going to be a rebellion of
the idiots?
Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
I mean it looks like it. Yeah, I mean it
really sticks to my crawl. And I don't know why
it bothers me so much because it is a great
example of the hypocrisy and the juxtaposition that the left
takes on this particular issue, because they claim it's all
an effort to fight racism, but the whole premise is
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based on some of the most racist concepts. Excuse me,
but a black person can't possibly get this job if
there's a qualified white person to do it. So we
just were not allowed to hire the white people who
can do the good job the black people they need it. Okay, well,
what's the qualification. Uh, they're black, ye.
Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
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you get in the door. But if you're white, you don't.
By now, this is this is crazy, and see what
it can do. This These kinds of things can create
racist or racial problems because people that are not in
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the know will say, we'll come to the conclusion. Well,
I tell you, Martha, those those black people over there,
they're ill. They're really stupid. They're they're not too bright.
God didn't get them too any break enough brain cells. Hell,
we got to destroy our country on behalf of those
dumb black people over there. And it's not even oh
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my god. But it's by design. It's another avenue of division.
It's another avenue of not paying attention or focusing on
on the real problem. You know, this dei mentality is
in reverse in America too. Instead of for I know,
I'm I'm bouncing to a connecting to another subject here,
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but in a way it is connected. It was either
Vivic Ramaswami or Elon Musk or both of them who
said that Americans are lazy, they're not that bright, YadA
YadA YadA, and so we have to bring in all
these Indian people to you know, to uh, you know,
(01:10:56):
to operate computers, whatever the deal is. And so that's
bull capitalist with a hit because if the Indians were
so smart, why is their nation, for the most part,
all trashy? And number two, why don't they focus on
re establishing good education in America? When you do that
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problem solved. No one is inherently stupid. We can make
jokes and everything like that, but it is stupid not
to focus on let's put big money behind educating Americans
and not using uneducated Americans as an excuse to continue
to have an open door for millions and millions of
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people to flood into this country from dirty places like India.
I'm sorry, I know that's but it's a fact. India
is dirty and crappy. But they're brought over here because
Americans are not given good educations. So, you know, even
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these great people, these wonderful people that mister Trump has
has appointed, even they are part of the problem when
it comes to that specific issue.
Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yeah, the most aggravating part there is it isn't even
that there aren't qualified Americans of various skin tones that
are capable of doing the work. It's just the Indians
that come over on the work programs are going to
be doing it for a whole lot less. So they're
taking advantage of people that if they want to be here,
(01:12:32):
that's their way in and they're kind of stuck. It
kind of creates one of those underclasses. And you're right,
that is a problem instood, it's something we should all
be pushing back from. But the other part that really
bothers me Ron and again I'm not even entirely certain why,
but it feels extremely unfair to me when DEI practices
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are in place in the company and then you see
somebody that falls under one of those have to categories
that are given the jobs because they check the boxes.
But it feels extremely unfair to just then automatically assume
they are a DEI higher when maybe they are the
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best qualified person doing the job, whatever it might be.
Because when you know, the company does that type of hiring,
it always it automatically makes it suspect there's no reason
to assume the best and I think that's unfair to
the qualified people that have earned the job the right
way regardless.
Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Yes, absolutely, it's so unfair. But like I said, you know,
there there's a multiplicity of reasons why these things are
being done. Well, you mentioned one about lowering, uh you know,
paying people half the amount, but it's also created, uh
to bring about a lot of division, uh, you know,
(01:13:58):
just problems in our country, even on a social level,
ignoring the trillion dollar problem of bad education in our
schools replaced by indoctrination. So this is another way of
destroying the country from within. And by the way, I
get that these companies want to make, you know, want
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to save money by paying these workers to come from
these dirty countries half the amount that they would pay Americans.
But here's the thing we have to look at big picture.
So they're making a fraction of what Americans would make, right,
But guess what when you spread it out, they're spending
a lot less in the economy too. They're not buying
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the nice homes that the Americans would be buying. They're
not buying a lot of things on the level that
Americans would be buying or whomever would be if they
were making those higher wages. So you know it, and
that spends in the long run in a negative direction.
So you're still while you're increasing the bottom line for
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a while for that corporation, but you're hurting the overall
economy indirectly. If millions of people that are brought over
here for these AI and other high tech industries, right,
if they're brought over here at half the price of Americans,
you know, the spending volumes are going to go down
in time, and so on the back end, you have
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another problem. But they don't care about that, because the
overall design of all of this stuff is to bring
about consternation, division, collapse, no matter by any means necessary.
And this is just part of that salad, mixed salad
of many ways to bring this country down, or you know,
(01:15:54):
to bring because and they're creating so many problems. So
the Trumpster, he's nailing this boom boom boom boom. But
you can can you imagine the spin out just from
that one one problem alone. The economy. You know, you've
got to have the higher wages. We are a Western society,
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and we are we We're used to higher wages. And
that's the way it is. And these companies will still
make their billions and billions of dollars, and why not
pay Americans a little bit more? They're Americans. You can't
do that in reverse in other countries. They're not going
to put Americans first and above their people. The only
(01:16:36):
time they do that if you're an American tourist and
they know that you have some money, then they treat
you real nights. They'll even sing for you. I like
to be an emadic. I like to be an emdic.
Wouldn't I like to go to America? As soon as
you're long, they go as soon as soon as you're gone. Oh,
those dumb Americans. So come on, you'd have to be
(01:16:59):
more self centered in how we deal with with with
ourselves in this country. We if we're going to be
great again, we got to treat each other great again,
all of us, and build this country together. And I'd
rather pay If I had a broadcasting corporation, I'd rather
pay you Tim Tapp a quarter of a million dollars
(01:17:23):
as opposed to Haiji Haiji that would come over here
for one quarter of it to do a talk show
and pay him fifty thousand. But it would be bull
capitalist with a head. He'd buy less. He wouldn't sound
as good. But you can't run a nation on cheaper
labor along if that is your main goal. That's it's
(01:17:46):
not gonna work, my friend, not in the long run.
Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Now for an international company, maybe you're betting you're going
to bank enough money from outside of the single country
to make up for it, but you're not doing yourself
any favors, and eventually you'll be rejected. So you're right now.
Quick question though, Ron, what if you hire me and
(01:18:11):
then also I am doing Hodgy as well. Hodgi will
need a check too, so it can Can we work
out a package deal for both of us?
Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Yes, because then we bring the we bring in the
Hodgie audience to we give him midnights.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Well, it's funny, I want to talk about the midnight
shift for one of our final topics today. So I'm
glad you mentioned that we'll be circling back around uh
real quick, and of course by that, I just mean
quicker than our usual passed down. One of the things
that Biden did going out the door is he signed
(01:18:58):
a contract with the Education Union allowing them to lock
in distance work, the telework option, a lot further out
than Donald Trump plans. They're actively working on trying to
break this contract, and I given the way our current
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judicial system is set up, I think that's going to
be an uphill climb. But I would still love to
get your thoughts on how important this particular thing is,
because we've already talked about education. I think between the
two of us just together in the last few minutes,
we use that word at least six times, and it
(01:19:43):
is an important part at bringing the country both together
and moving forward. One of the biggest reasons why we
are so divided is because a lot of people have
been indoctrinated instead of educated, and in that process that's
allowed divisions that just should not be there. But this
(01:20:03):
was both a thumb in the eye of the American people.
One of many Biden did on his way out, but
also something that is going to continue to cause long
term harm. What do you think is the right path
forward for the Trump administration in trying to address this
particular issue.
Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Okay, you have to forgive me. I need you to
repeat the first part of it because I want to
give the complete I didn't hear it the first part.
Please forgive me. I didn't hear the first part.
Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Oh, that's fine. Joe Biden signed a contract with the
teachers' unions that allows them to maintain and continue telework.
I think it's forget what the date is. I think
it's an additional two years. It's at least through twenty six.
(01:21:01):
I hop think it goes through twenty twenty seven if
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Okay, first of all, was that in the executive Order.
Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
No, this is a standardized contract at negotiation. It doesn't
make a whole lot of sense to me why there
is a education union doing anything at all with the
federal government, because that's not their employer technically. But it
(01:21:35):
gave them some protection because they knew Donald Trump was
coming in. One of the things that he promised he
was going to bring federal workers back to work, and
he also knew that in the Department of Education in
their effort to tear it down. One of the other
things that we're going to do was start cutting back
on funds and grants to any educators unions that weren't
(01:21:58):
bringing their folks back into the classrooms.
Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Okay, well, I would still continue on the goal to destroy,
to take down the Department of Education overall. Yeah, And
if you have to deal with this problem two years
and at the same time approach it, I think you
that what's the angle that you just brought up the
(01:22:27):
making this standardized education contract with the federal government and
between the federal government and the teachers union. I think
that's a bit unusual, and I think that would be
the the the approach you would attack in judicially. And
so this these you have to just chip away, you
(01:22:49):
have to chip back at. It takes two years, so
be it because you said it was an extra two
years or whatever. That's just across you have to bear
and you have to deconstructed as you can. But at
the same time, that does not negate or get rid
of the effort or the goal of getting rid of
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the Department of Education. And that proves more so why
it needs to be gotten rid of. And you know
that's to figure out a legal way or a constitutionally
based way to upend all this. I mean, at the
(01:23:32):
same time, you might want to take a look at
some of the things that the Democrats have done in
the past to get their way on issues that they
might have disagreed with that Republicans and conservative conservatives have
set up in government and elsewhere, and somehow they always
find a way to usurp anything that they try to
(01:23:52):
put their hands on. Now, that may change in the
near future, because I think some major major changes are coming.
Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
But yeah, I need to make a quick correction. Ron,
it was actually the union that represents the Department of
Education's employees. So it's the folks that actually work for
that department in the Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Well, you know what. Still, it's not forever, and the
Department of Education can be proven in court that it
is destroyed more than it has helped you lay out
your case. We were number one in the world when
the Department of Education was formed. We were number one,
(01:24:38):
and now where are we in some I think overall
we're still in the I guess in the top thirty
for the most part. But there may be some some category.
We're down as far as thirty nine if I recall correctly.
But you have to lay out the case and take
the message to the American people. How Reagan used to
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get those graphs and show the American people whatever the
issue that he was talking about, and he would use
these graphs and he would point out, this is what
it was, this is what it is. Now as a
result of this, look at this boom boom boom. It's
a three pronged approach. You have to take the message
(01:25:21):
to the American people. And Trump is good at that.
And now he's got good surrogates Jade Vance and and
a few others who are good communicators to and who
have that ability to reach and relate to the people.
You have to do it that way, and you have
to approach in your message that this is an emergency
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that we cannot take another amount of years under this
type of education, because if we do continue on this bridge,
we will collapse as a nation. Because a nation cannot
survive and be great if everyone's an idiot, if everyone
is indoctrinated against everything you know, against everything that is
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good and intellectually superior, we can't do it. And the
case has to be made, and I know what, the
American people, it can be made. And then when you
get the backing of the American people and they pound
on their representatives, you know, it's it's it's it's it's
gonna take a lot of work, just like it took
(01:26:28):
a lot of work to get President Trump elected, you know,
and the way that people had to pound their representatives
and their senators just to get the few people that
have already been uh, you know, passed on into President
Trump's cabinet. You know, I hope I'm not sounding too simplistic,
but I mean, I mean this this, this this thing
(01:26:52):
was this this Department of Education, the way Jimmy Carter
set it up, he knew I'd almost guarantee that he
knew that it would lead to destruction because it was
based upon the Communist manifesto. Anyway, you don't centralize education
like that. You just don't do that.
Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Not in the United States at any rate. We're going
to have to put a pin right there is We've
got to slide and take our break, but we will
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Thank you very much, Tim Oh. Tim. One more thing.
Prayers are going out for folks in a Philadelphia neighborhood
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plane dives and crashed violently in the streets of Philadelphia.
That happened not very long before I came on. Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Yeah, okay, Yeah. Obviously thoughts from prayers and hopefully minimizing
of human costs at the very least, I certainly hope.
I did have to kind of push the pause button
on you as we went into the break. I wanted
to give you an opportunity to finish your thoughts if
(01:37:29):
there was anything further you wanted to add about this
ridiculous effort to continue telework for the Department of Education,
the department that doesn't really deserve to exist in the
first place.
Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Find a way to stop it, I mean, just to
put a cap on it. Find a way to stop it.
If they can, whatever they're doing can be circumvented. We
just have to figure it out and get her done.
Because for the good of the country, we have to stop,
you know, this indoctrination department pretending to be an education department.
(01:38:05):
By now many people understand the problem, and we have
to stamp it out. You know, it's like a bunch
of cockboats. It has to be stomped out.
Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right, And I think the
best way to end is even with the contracts in place,
if you can't break the contracts, the best way to
end it is to phase out the department. And that
seems to be the plan. They're not just going willing
nelly hack, Okay, you're gone. They're going to remove funding
(01:38:37):
till it eventually just to exist. And if you do that,
it's real easy to end tell of work when the
job of itself doesn't exist anymore. It's like, okay, well,
good news is you just don't have to come into
the office. The bad news is you're not getting to
check anymore either. You're gonna have to go get a
(01:38:58):
real job. Good luck.
Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
And then of course you in the letter by now.
Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Of course, is there any other way to end a letter? Right?
I didn't think there was the other aspect of this though.
It really boggles my mind, why do we still have
such a large gap now between the end of the
election and the inauguration to the next office holder. I mean,
(01:39:30):
the reason why we had it initially was because they
wanted to have the official counting of the Executive College,
the Executive ELEC twelve College getting together and do the votes,
and these people had to come from all over the
country at a time where horse and buggy initially might
(01:39:51):
have been your best mode of transportation. I get it then,
but now it's so much easier, so much past, there's
no need to have this delay. But if we're going
to continue to do it, why do we not have
some kind of restriction on the freaking lame duck at
that point, essentially stating, Okay, you're still president until this time,
(01:40:13):
but unless it's some major national emergency, you're done doing
anything in an official capacity. Can we not at least
have a whoever is sitting in the Oval office not
doing anything non emergency between January first and January twentieth?
Is that an unreasonable request on my part?
Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
I don't think so. What we'd be thankful that inauguration
day isn't on the original day that it used to be,
because it used to be in March, so so it
has been pulled back quite a bit. But I do
agree that it should be that time should be shortened
even more because you know, there are no more horse
(01:41:01):
and buggies. Well there are, but they're in Amish communities
and farming communities across the country. But yeah, you're right,
but you know, you know, just imagine if it were
in March.
Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Yeah, I mean, I'm glad we bumped it up when
trains became a great mode of transportation. I think it's
time to reevaluate though we have planes, and in all honesty,
I don't even know that it's necessary for us to
have in person stuff other than having the justice who's
(01:41:36):
actually doing the swearing in in the same room with
the person. Other than that, what else do we really need.
Let's save some money, let's do away with the pomp
and circumstance, let's get to the business of doing the
people's business.
Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
You know, I do agree with that in principle, but
I do think you'd need a little bit of celebratory
pomp and circumstances to set the mood. You know, people
need to be genied up a bit.
Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
You know that too, Yeah, I mean, I said it
in half jest, but yeah, I know, I know. But
the principle, the principle of the matter, though there is
some legitimacy to just getting to getting to the work,
maybe if there wasn't quite so much elevation, uh to this,
we could return to a small government. If if everybody
(01:42:30):
who showed up at the Congress were more concerned about
how quickly they could get back home instead of how
long they can hold onto their seat, we might have
a functioning federal government. Again, Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
But here's the thing, and I shared this with someone
in fact on my own show too, that when it
comes to running for government and how you could get
people to get right to work, here's the thing, because uncle,
i mean uncle President Trump understands getting right to work
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because he got right to work in front of the
American people signing those executive orders that same day that
had to drive the leftis crazy. But if you want
to get people that are interested in getting back to work,
especially your senators and your representatives, all you have to
do is that anyone who's running for office, they must
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pass an examination. They must show that they understand the
fundamentals of particularly the first ten amendments of the Constitution.
They must know them backwards and forwards. And we know
that they know that, We know that they understand it fully.
And there's a reason why I call for this tim
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because then I think, with the full understanding, and I
throw in a few federalist papers here and there too,
with the full understanding of this, then when they get
into office, if they don't operate according to said principles,
(01:44:10):
then they can be put on emergency notice that, oh,
we're sorry, your seat is up for an emergency election
because you are not operating in a way that is
beneficial to this republic, meaning by the confines of the Constitution.
And so you're out. You have thirty days or whatever,
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and we're going to be running. We're going to push
you out via a special election. I know it probably
will never ever happen, but I couldn't guarantee you we
had those kinds of regulations. I guarantee you the quality
of government in this country would go up in time
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and people would have to get used to it. If
this were the tradition from the beginning is smart and
as in intelligent as the founding fathers were, and they
envisioned the United States being the greatest nation in the
history of the world, as we do today. I cannot
understand why there aren't some qualifications to run for said positions.
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Because yes, you can have great corporations where people have
to be qualified to run those corporations and departments, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. But what's greater than the entire
country that houses those corporations and small businesses, etc. Where
people have to be qualified. I'm sure, Tim, on your
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job there are qualifications, there are procedures, and if you
don't do what you are supposed to do, could your
company could lose contracts? If that budge is not tasting good,
guess what, there would be a problem. So if our
government officials aren't operate according to the Constitution, which does
(01:46:02):
bring problems and ruin nation to our republic, then they
too should not feel like, oh, we're imperial wonders like
a chucky Schumer. When's the last time he operated according
to the Constitution? Never?
Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
I'm not certain he's even met the Constitution. To be honest, Hello,
mister Constitution, how are you? I took the host to
defend you, but I've never met you.
Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
Does that make sense to you? I mean, it may
never happen, but yeah, there's got to be a change.
Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
I like the idea ron, but I would also add
to it another edition. Anytime they introduced legislation or an
amendment to legislation, they need to be able to show
the constitutional authority ready to do it and why it
would be beneficial. And they've got to have both. And
precedent doesn't enter into it. I don't care what we've
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done before. It has to be constitutional.
Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Amen, hallelujah. Yeah, absolutely sustained.
Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
All right, that might be the biggest win I get
all day today. Thank you for that.
Speaker 11 (01:47:21):
Pun.
Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
I've got to you know, there's so many things that's happened.
It's unfair that we only had an hour, but in truth,
we could have spent six hours and not got to
everything I would like to talk to you about. But
I definitely wanted to. In our final moments, Now, the
very last moment before we have to say goodbye, I'm
gonna ask you for a prediction unrelated to politics, but
(01:47:49):
in this last little bit, in this segment, well we've
got a chance to talk. We saw Jim Acosta step
away because he didn't want to go to the midnight shift.
And now we hear that Jake Tapper is leaving NBC completely,
you're completely outside of it. And we also saw Caroline
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Levitt become a superstar in her first press conference. But
the thing we saw there as well is new media
has a legitimate spot at the table in White House
press coverage. Now do you think other than the complete
and total incompetence of Jim Acosta, who only loves Jim
Acosta and is otherwise a blatant thing I can't name
(01:48:38):
out loud of because we are still on one terrestrial
radio station and don't want to get any FCC issues.
But it does the recognition of new media and the
positioning of new media maybe have something to do with
these particular folks deciding to get out.
Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Yes, because they're losing there and they're they're losing their gravitas,
they're panage, they're their influence. Their people are beginning to
see them for who they really are. They're not some
big media idols or media darlings like uh, great men
and women of the past like uh Walter Cronkite from
(01:49:23):
CBS News or Barbara Wah Wah remember her Barbara Walters.
You know, they they're not these icons anymore. They're people
that are full of bull capitalists with a head, that
have an evil leftist agenda. They're intellectually inferior as well
when you really get into it. Uh yeah, so they understand,
(01:49:45):
they they they they're a waste. And when he I mean,
they didn't fire him, They said, well, you can take
the midnight shift and see. If he were smart, he
would have said I'll take it and I'll build it
if he had the talent to do it. But he's
too crazed and to one he's like a one horse pony.
(01:50:07):
I mean, yeah, I'm sorry, a one horse town or whatever. Right,
And he's on destroy anything that is good. That's his mission.
Destroy America, destroy every try to destroy and undermine any
conservative or Christian, anyone that's good in government. Go after them. Yeah,
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we're tired of that, Tim, We're tired of that bulk
capitalist with a head. We're done. And the alternative media
don't think that they're bringing the alternative media to the
table because of the generosity of their heart. No thanks
to Baron Trump. I mean this is practical. Alternative media
(01:50:51):
is growing by leaps and bounds. And so when when
Baron Trump and you saw the results of that, President
Trump is like, hey, invite them, we'll vet them. Well,
but we were giving them and you're going to get
more truth out. And see that's gonna help us in
(01:51:11):
the future going forward. Yeah, you'll still have your legacy media,
the ones who are just they're willing to die for
the for the for the lie. But there's gonna be
so many truth tellers out there. You know, at least
we were getting more of what I used to talk
about on your show about in a more of an
even playing field. I used to say, at least get Lord,
(01:51:34):
give us an even playing field. Then if we lose, okay,
we we won fair and I mean we lost fair
and square, but the way things were it was we
couldn't win. But now we're getting it. Things are more
evened up. If we can get the education system behind
that cleaned up. And speaking of the even playing field,
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the same principle I've believe is going to have to
work amongst us Christians because now you have all these lying,
wicked Christian ministers and minister ats who have been misleading,
whether it' John Day, Star Joni and all these those bullcrappers.
You know, I could just name names and give you
(01:52:20):
specific things, okay, And they have misled tens of millions
of Americans for many years while becoming multimillionaires, and a
couple of them are billionaires. But now a lot of
smaller churches people are becoming more independent in the same
way that the independent media is bringing out more truth
(01:52:44):
in the country. You're seeing smaller ministries that are becoming
more focused, more educated in their presentations because their focus
is the Bible, the Word of God. And so you're
going to see this multiplicity of of improvements because people
are getting away from the main dragons, from the big
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dragons of whatever metron it is, whether it's media, whether
it's the church, education, what I forget to forgive me
for forgetting the state. But I even talked about the
story today. I think I mentioned on my show where
one particular state they're they're they're they're battling about giving
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tax tape payer dollars to Christian to a Christian or
Catholic charter school. No, I don't believe in giving tax
dollars to Christian or Catholic charter schools. I believe in
making the economy so prosperous that they could be independent,
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independently prosperous because their parishioners would be prosperous YadA, YadA, YadA,
and they would there would be no future government strings
to poison them. Like withills Hillsdale College in Michigan. They've
never taken on sent from government, but they have a
huge endowment. They're one of the best education centers in
the world, though they don't get the ux the complementary
(01:54:11):
accolades that they should on a large scale. But imagine
many more schools like that around the country. There may
be another Engrove city in Pennsylvania. I think they're still
in business, just a few. But you bring about true prosperity,
I mean in the masses, then they'll support where they
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want to go, where they want to send them, will
be in the position to send the children here there,
and we won't need government strings. See that's the thing
also where we hang ourselves up. Oh government, give us
give us your tax, give us the tax dollars that
we originally gave you. By the way, But the government says, well,
because I'm giving you the money you gave me, here's
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some strings in the future. The CIA will poison your
church again, will poison a new generation of churches or
schools or whatever. So yeah, we've got to take look
at the example that has been set in the independent
media and follow that across the board.
Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
We're gonna have to We're gonna have to end things
right there is. We're almost out of time, and I
still have one more question I want to ask you,
because we're not going to be together on air again
until afterwards. I need to know Chiefs or Eagles.
Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Oh man, Jesus, well, if the if the rest keep
doing their thing, the Chiefs, but the Eagles they look
very strong. They look like ah man, they look like
megatrons out there. The way they were playing the other day.
(01:55:55):
I like, I really like the quarterback, the Chiefs quarterback.
But I'm going to go I've got to take one
if the refs do their job the right way. Even
though I'm a big fan of the Chiefs quarterback and
(01:56:17):
I love Andy Reid too. Yeah, but I do think
that Philadelphia is too powerful for them.
Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
I tend to think Phillies they've got the better team
coming in. If they don't mess up, and if the
refs don't pull the business.
Speaker 12 (01:56:32):
They have been.
Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
I agree with you, all right, Thanks Ron for being on.
We're we're almost completely out of time right now, but
as always I appreciate it. God speed to you, sir,
and keep up your great work.
Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
You as well into your wonderful audience. Godspeed all right,
thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
Now, if you're listening live on some of the platforms,
you are losing us right about now. But those of
you that are listening to the podcast afterwards you'll get
to hear me sign off as always, and that of
course is as swallows. Don't take my word for anything
you heard me say tonight, but please, for the love
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of all the totally in heaven, don't take the word
of people like Chucky Schumer. You should know by now.
Why not be prepared to put in some effort and
put in some time and energy and find original sources
and do your own homework. Most importantly, use your brain
(01:57:30):
if you really want to tap into the truth. Good night, everybody,
enjoy your weekend and come back and see us next week.
We will be right back here.
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