Episode 454 - "iOS 26, AI Shenanigans, and Roku Lights Up the Room!" - TechtalkRadio

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.
Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm sean to wear just us again.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
And there's a lot to talk about too. I mean,
last week, you know we talked. The first segment was
about Apple and their big announcements, and now we're seeing
more and more news coming out about Apple and some
of the things. I just went ahead and upgraded my
iPhone fourteen to the latest eighteen. But I noticed down
below it said iOS twenty six now available.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I think it came out two days ago. Hey, iOS
twenty six is available. I was like, oh, it's not
a beta version anymore. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
It's the full Now you've been using the beta version
for iOS twenty six for how long?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Two months at least? Yeah, as soon as it was
available when they announced it, I downloaded it that day.
I didn't hate it. It's been working so good for
what it is, and you know, the liquid glass and
the animation style and stuff, and I've got in and
and tweaked some of the settings to my liking, and
I think it gave me an advantage against people who
just got it, because now I'm hearing the same complaints
about certain features that I had during the beta, and

(01:05):
you know, and I was like, oh, yeah, just do
this or do this.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
If I went ahead and did it all right, and again,
remember I've been an Android user for about a year.
I've just come back to Apple and it looks the
same as when I left it. What would be the
biggest adjustment for me going to iOS twenty six if
I go ahead and do that.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
So, I mean, you're familiar at least with iOS. The
biggest thing if I had to sum it up in
like one easy to define phrase, this OS is designed
for two handed operations, really, so a lot of the
menu functions, a lot of the search functions, a lot
of the x's, a lot of the it's been designed normally.
I held I used to hold my phone with one

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hand a lot, and I can reach you know, mostly
right handed. I could reach up and hit the XS
with my thumb or whatever, you know, if it was
at the top of the menu. Now a lot of
the UI experience has been moved to the bottom of
the phone. The exes are at the bottom right, creating
new messages as the bottom right. So a lot of
a lot of key features that normally would be at
the top right are now at the bottom right. The

(02:04):
search has been moved to the bottom there. It seems,
I mean a lot more people are using the phones,
like just on a day to day basis, millions and
millions and gazillions of people are using their phones for everything.
How do you hold it? I can type relatively coick
with one thumb, but if you put two hands on it,
now I can type really fast with two thumbs. It's
almost going back to the types of phones where you've

(02:25):
used it, where you've just had the keyboard, right original blackberries.
It's like you always want the keyboard there because you're
always typing. But you can go away, you can swipe up.
Still could do it one handed, still type one handed
and stuff. But now I'm finding myself having to remember
muscle memory. Okay, to start a new message, I have
to go to the bottom right, so to the top left.
So if I'm holding one handed and I try and

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go up to the top or I try to go over.
So it's just relearning muscle memory things. So I think
from a fundamental design that's the easiest way I can
sum it up is it's been designed for two handed operation,
like you're gonna be ho ho you, I'll holding you
out to it a lot more to hands.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Right right now. Some people, I know Sean, they'll they'll
put their phone in, you know, in a mount or
you know, I've got a mount here in the studio.
It's mounted in front of me. And then it's just
a matter of you know, picking what I want to
do that that can still work for somebody, I mean,
if they want to.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah. And I think something that I use quite a
bit is if my phone's laying down and I want
to respond to a message, I'll do the swipe texting.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, when you start with one.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Letter, you just swipe around and say like, hey Caitlin,
I'm gonna be homewaight for work. And you can just
do it that fast like and you can miss. You
don't have to be precise. It knows where you're trying
to go based on like your speed and stuff. And
I can do that relatively fast. I do that quite
a bit. If it's I see a message on my phone,
I just go hit it, you know, you you know,
just swipe on my phone instead of typing each letter.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, one of the things though that I want to
see Sean is and again, you know, I've been really
relying on the pixel and I I wasn't sure I
was going to really like the you know, the the
Gemini feature on it and you know, the AI feature,
and I do. I love it. I love especially for

(04:09):
me in the studio if I'm playing a song by
you know, the group Chicago and I want to find
out when did you know make me smile? Come out? Uh,
It's so easy because I don't have to type it.
I could be doing other things, ask and it will
put that information right there for me, which is great.
Siri just hasn't been able to do that, and I've
I tried the other day. Let let's see and I

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was like, that's so disappointing.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, hey, I mentioned it when we talked about it
right after the announcements aired. The only AI announcement they
made for the iPhone event was for the air Pod pros.
The only A announcement there hasn't been anything since.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
If they do integrate, and they were talking about this,
we talked about mentioned this last week too. You know,
if they do integreat Gemini, which there there has been talk.
I don't know if that's been squashed yet, but if
they do integrate that into the Apple interface, that would
be great. I think that make people happy. I mean,
you could do with third party cht GPT, you could,
you know, add that app or any of the other

(05:08):
AI companies, you could add that as an app and
do the same thing basically. But I like the responsive
time and everything that I've been getting with Jim, and
I think that's been that's been working good.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
I just don't know how I I mean, I'm still
on the fence about AI in general. I've kind of
always been the naysayer about AI. I do find it's
useful for certain things, right, I don't like that it's
literally in everything, and I get nervous about that it's
going to be a toys going forward.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, that's scary, and you know, it's so easy to
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's it's interesting seeing younger generations, especially because they work
at university, seeing how other students are dealing with AI
and what they're thinking about. And now you're starting to
see trends with teachers having people physically write their essays
and physically right there because they can't. You know, it's
like you have to prove to me that you didn't
do AI. How do you do that? Write it?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, there's I think there's two types of UH. And
I've talked to a teacher about this too. There's two
types of students. Ones that are going to allow the
AI to do the whole article and those that are
a little sharper than that, that will use it to
create kind of a flow, a flow chart of it,
but then go in and add what you know, add

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what they've learned, edit it, make it, make it their own.
And I think it's the same way with business too,
that that's gonna work the best if you see it.
I mean I've seen posts online where I just go
that's AI. And I've seen written text online, whether it
be a post on Instagram or Facebook, that's AI. When
somebody takes the time to use use it to get

(06:45):
the info they need to put together something, then yeah,
that works out good.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I don't haven't done a whole lot of image generating
with AI. It maybe a couple like here's a random
troll from my D and D game or something and
I but I haven't really had it generate anything for me.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
So yeah, Amanda reached out. We were talking Amandu, who
is a yeah, but on the show for a while
because she's been so so ingrained in education and what
she's doing there. But we were talking the other day
about Sorrows and that she was trying to create, you know,
a creature for her class, and so I was trying
Sorrows to create. None of it looked really great to me,

(07:25):
you know, it just just didn't have that feel. I
did a news segment that ran this past week, which
is good because we were talking about Riverside FM, which
we use for producing the show. There are some great
AI features in that as well. And I had to
create a shot where some people were sitting around a
table doing a podcast because I didn't have video of

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us doing it. So I figured, okay, let's do that.
But it's so crazy because as soon as you cut
to any text that's on the screen, you look at
it and go, what word is that? It's like it
just it can't get it all all together, at least
in the short amount of time that we want it.
So that's kind of the downside with this these AI features.

(08:08):
But we're looking for them more, I think in our
personal advices.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
This is the new generations dot com bubble AI is
going to be everywhere for and then it's just going
to just disappear, right and it's gonna be crazy. I
don't know what it's what effect it's going to have
on jobs and that kind of stuff, But it's not
going away for one, we know that. But I think
the number of companies that are just solely banking on

(08:34):
AI taking over the majority of their workforce is a
bad play, and it's going All it takes is like
a major Amazon outage or a major JGPT outage, and
those companies are going to be screwed for an unknown
amount of time. And if you hire somebody that's a
vibe coder that just learned how to code with AI
and groc or whatever, you know, whatever, and then you

(08:55):
come up against a serious problem that it can't solve
or you need back end development and help, you're going
to be paying a premium for somebody to come in
to clean up a mess that somebody created sloppily with AI.
I mean, that's there's a reason they called AI slop.
You're seeing a lot of professional, long long career codeers
looking at stuff and going, yeah, it works, but there's

(09:18):
no support if anything goes wrong. There's no back end,
there's no redundancy.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
There have been people that have said, I've been using
Codex to do my coding. I've been using you know,
the AI features to help me with writing code. The
thing is we can't. I don't think it's at that
point and I don't know if it'll get to that
point where we can't jump in one hundred percent and
say just do this for me, because it's it's just
like anything on the net. You can watch a video

(09:44):
on YouTube. It may not apply to you and what
you're trying to do. You have to have an open
mind by going and looking at it and going, hm,
is there a different way if we become too reliant
on it, that could end up hurting us in the
long run.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah. And I had a coworker that said it pretty
well straight up. He said, until it can get to
one hundred percent accuracy, it's never going to be everywhere
seeing what they're eighty percent accurate, eighty five percent accurate.
And he looked, you know, he's a graphics operator for
what we do for sports. He's like, if I'm eighty
percent accurate in my stats, I'm gonna get fired. Yeah,

(10:22):
I'm losing my job if I miss twenty percent of
my graphics that go to.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Air and they're wrong misspelled, Yeah, misspelled.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's I'm fired. I'm done. He's like, so, how can
we rely on that to be for something so critical?
We're try and rely on AI to do it and
generate you know, generate graphics and stuff like that. It's like,
this just won't happen. There are certain jobs that it
just can't do be due to the critical level of accuracy.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Are there companies that are better at it? Sean, I
mean when you look at I mean, I know you
don't really use AI too much, but like there are
some Like I use Voice AI for a long time
just you know, played around with it, created contests with it,
had some fun with it, and honestly, it's like, eh,
but then I recently tried eleven Labs and I was

(11:14):
totally I typed. So eleven Labs has it. So if
you wanted to create a commercial, or you wanted to
create something for the show or whatever, you could type
it in. The problem is the AI does not understand
your inflection. So it's like imagine talking to C THREEBO
C THREEBO is gonna just spit it back out as

(11:34):
whatever you're putting in there. But it does have a
feature where I can talk on a microphone and I
can say things, and I can, you know, change my
inflection and the AI will pick that up and if
you're replacing it with a different voice or a different style,
it will understand that. So, I mean there are some
company I think that are better at that than others.

(11:57):
There are some video companies now, so you could put
in You pick which AI character you want, and I
don't know if people know this. You pick which AI person,
you give the script or you actually say what it is,
and they will basically have a person that's supposed to
be you then pitching a product. I saw one the
other day, though they obviously typed it in because when

(12:19):
it came to that AI model saying seven times the
growth factor, it said seven x the growth factor because
it doesn't know that supposed to represent seven times, so
and they never fixed it. I didn't understand that we're
all feeding it.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
It's growing every day. It's going to grow into this
huge amalgamation that nobody knows what it's going to look like.
And from my experience right I've only really used jat
YOUBT because it's provided to be by the university and
Amazon Q to do a little bit of coding'll be
very very minimal, like take this file and rename it.

(12:59):
Or you know, I did use it to organize a
bunch of photos, right, It's like, take all these photos
and put them in you know, I scanned them in
by year, put them in folders by year and all
this stuff, and it did a really good job. But
that's about all I've used it for, and I use
it really to The thing I use it for the
most is to search user manuals like this, this is

(13:23):
the product that I have. This is what I'm trying
to find. Please find me the manual and show me
where it is in the manual, and it'll give show
me where the PDF is. I can download, it'll highlight
it for me and the in the PDF, and I
can get to where I need to be relatively quickly,
even if it'll have the manual available to me.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Is this going out onto the web and looking for
it or do you put input a set both so
you can do that too.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, So I could upload the PDF and say here's
the pdf. Please scan through it and tell me everything
that's related to serial port, Comport nine or something whatever,
whatever the variable is that I wanted to search for.
But there's just so many times where it's like it's
if I'm trying to it's really bad at if I'm

(14:06):
trying to build ross Constom controls for our video switcher,
it's really bad and inaccurate quite a bit. So I've
just found myself just saying, show me the manual and
show me where the key commands are, and I'll build
it myself because it's really bad, really awful at building
those and it's ninety percent inaccurate. So there are a

(14:27):
lot of things where I'm trying to use it just
to see what it can do. But again, mostly it's
just for small level coding products that that I'm doing
for personal stuff that it would take me months to
figure out on my own, but it can just spit
out a basic folder renaming script for me relatively quick.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
There is a program that's out there, it's called cap cut,
and people who use you know, social media like TikTok
or some of the others that are out there, they
do some pretty amazing things. A lot of it's visual
just oh it's nice. I I can do this. You know.
It's kind of like when uh, if you remember when

(15:07):
it was, was it Premier? Did Premiere have a version
I'm trying to think of the Adobe. Premiere have a
version the average person could use for creating things in editing,
and it was fun. I'm pretty sure that did I
know they had like a photoshop light or whatever, you
know that you could use. But with this, you can
take a set number of photos with cap cut and

(15:29):
you could upload them and it'll create a musical scene. Now,
if you pay for cap cut, you can get a
longer scene. You can do more stuff. People are doing
some neat things. One of those features is, uh, it
took the photo and and we've talked about this before,
that Uncanny Valley, right, and my sister in law had

(15:50):
posted a photo of h Gloria's mom and dad, who
were both no longer with us, But she had taken
the photo of she had taken like a scream land
of screenshop, but taking a picture with a camera of
a photo that was on the wall. She don't have
a scanner, and so you get the flash at the
bottom left of that, you know, reflecting off the glass.

(16:13):
I put it into one of the the AI programs
and I had to fix it and it did it.
I put it in the Google Photos and I had
the AI there go ahead and fix it. And was like, cool,
and you got this great looking photo. Now it's all
cleaned up. And I put it into cap cut and
it can animate them. And I did it, and then

(16:37):
I had this regret because here's this thing that looks
really cool to me. But if I show it to
my wife, this is her mom and dad.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, we've talked about this before, right, I think even
like four years ago, three years ago, you were like, hey,
I found this really great website. If I upload a
video of or at this picture of my grandpa, it'll
animate it. You showed it to us and I was like,
that's weird.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, you know, it's weird, and it can it can
be painful.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, because it's it's not how people. It's it's a
weird sensation to see and hear somebody that you know,
and no, it's not real.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
They're even doing the voices. Now, Yeah, that's weird. You know.
I have I think I have maybe two minutes of
my dad talking, who sounded a lot like Michael Caine.
So I like my I always like Michael Caine movies,
who is coming out of retirement, which I can't believe
he's going to be doing a movie. But and it
was the same thing. I wanted to do that, but

(17:39):
I realized, do I really want to do that? You know?
Is do we really want to go there? Suddenly seeing
these people that look at that and it's a moment
that never existed, created from a moment that did.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, And I think a lot of the AI is
just is just thrust upon the content creation world because
it's easier to create more content. And that's what it
takes to be the top of the top in the
content creational world. Is you're creating content every day, and
that takes a lot of work to do quality content.
If you're doing it by yourself or you're doing it
with a small team, it's a lot of a lot

(18:13):
of work. And if you could just do it by AI.
And yeah, I mean we're using some stuff, some of
that AI stuff for this show. And because it's a
four person thing and you're doing all the editing, you're
doing it. But it's like I I'm hard pressed outside
if I did something like it like this, I would
use it for this because it makes sense, but for

(18:36):
like anything I'm doing with my videos, my time lapses,
my photos. I had a hard time editing, just editing
my stuff in general, and I was always a big,
a big uh against really any editing. It was one
of my philosophies. My personal philosophies for photography was shoot

(18:56):
to print, not shooting edit. So I was always trying
to get the perfect exposure of the perfect color is
the perfect you know, the perfect composition, and that's not
always realistic. And you know, I don't really know photoshop
that well. I could go in and maybe blow out
a couple of dust spots if I didn't clean my sensor.
And the only AI I've used in my photo editing

(19:19):
is the is the AI is their lightroom has a
new AI noise reduction for for long exposure or you know,
nighttime stuff, and it looks really good now. It doesn't
do it perfect and you can tweak it and stuff,
But even that makes me feel a little icky about it.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I was trying the other day Sean to take a
photo and I put it in a photoshop and I
wanted to separate something out of the photo. Matter of fact,
I think it was a picture, uh still from the show,
and I wanted to take us out of the background
to put us into this this graphic, and it was

(19:58):
we have a hard time around, especially Justin's hair because
you know he's got the spiky hair and the colors
from the background were coming through and that's hard to edit.
Adobe does have a new tool that's part of Photoshop
that made me say, ooh, do I want to go
back to Photoshop because this tool can take And I
saw a demonstration of it and I was like, and
again it uses AI to go in there and actually

(20:21):
fine tune, you know, with the walking ants to the
each tool, the lasso tool, each like each color that
came through, and they so he did like a bicycle
with the spokes. Every spoke showed up. Now, anybody who
has done editing with Photoshop, like myself, knows that that
is really difficult to do.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Tedious.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
It's tedious, and I use a Walcom tablet and I
could still edit with it. But again it's like they're
making it easier to the point. But again you're you're
you're paying for that, you know, if you want to pay.
You see some of these videos up on social media
with the babies talking. You know, it's like it's amazing,
It's like, how did they do that? You know it's

(21:04):
fake though, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I think we are. I think it's And with just
the way the world is right now and the way
you never know what's real right now. And did I
post that? Did you post that? Did somebody else post
it on my account? Did I get hacked? How do
you know? And I would really say that, And with
the volatility of posting content that may be socially dangerous

(21:30):
at this point in time, you may lose your job,
or you may get harassed, or you may get you know, doxed.
So it's it's just it's hard to It's just a
hard place to be on the internet right now.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
It really is. There is one thing I want to
tell people, though, that I thought was pretty cool. We
talked about this before. No book LM when it comes
to AI, and that's part of Google, so you got
to I think it's a notebook LM dot Google dot com, nopook,
LM gives you the ability and this they're they're calling
it a study tool. And I've had another teacher or
agree with me. This can be pretty good. You know,

(22:03):
in the old days, the old age. When you needed
to study, you had to open a book, you had
to go to the library, maybe an encyclopedia, and you
would read it and you would go through that book
and you would study and study and hopefully you retain that.
You know. Of course, the Internet came along and then
you would go to Google or you go any one
of the sites for Encyclopedia, Britannic or whatever. Remember in

(22:25):
Karta for Microsoft, that was cool.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Oh yeah, we had we had the whole World book
from UH in Karta or Britannica, I don't remember what
it was, the whole thing, the whole series.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
And you could read you could read right there online.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
That was one of my first real like computer experiences, right,
was the Britannica CD. The CDs with the you could
interactive encyclopedias and interactive uh you know, World dictionaries and stuff.
Feels really cool.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
But as let's face it, Jeohn, though, as news moves
and news develops, that's the problem with those programs is, well,
nothing's updated. The web updates it a lot faster than
a book will do. But you take notebook LM and
say I went to a website and I wanted to
learn about this company. You know, maybe I'm going to

(23:14):
apply for a job with this company, so I could
take it. I go into notebook, LM, put the weblink
or even copy and paste the text into notebook. What
it does is creates two people talking about it, almost
like a podcast. So it's like a book on tape.
You're listening to two people talking about it. Well, they
have added something to it that I thought was pretty cool.

(23:36):
They've added an interactive feature. So say I'm listening to
it and they're talking about something. I want to ask
a question. I can summon a question, type it up,
type whatever question I have. They will respond based on
the information they've been fed.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
So I'm seeing that. I'm looking at it now and
it's You can just start typing in the middle of
an article.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
And they will go ahead and then and those voices
will respond to what you've asked. You can find stuff
a lot easier. As a study tool, this could be
very beneficial. Will it take over education? Will it take
over teaching? No, the work the teachers do. No, not
at all. But it is something to help maybe, you know,
students understand stuff. I'll tell you what we got to

(24:17):
take a quick break. We come back. We do have
some listener questions too. We got a Wise update as well,
something new from Wise that Sean looked at it and said, WHOA,
I didn't know they were doing this. So we'll find
out more about that when we come back. I'm Andy Taylor,
I'm Sean de Weird.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Find us on the web tech talk radio dot com.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Now back to tech talk Radio.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
So right before the break, Andy dropped a little nugget
about Wyse, and they call me the wise Guy. I mean,
ever since Wyse has been a thing, since I bought
the V one camera twenty I don't even know it's
twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. I've always been intrigued by what
they've been doing, keeping up on them. So they call

(24:57):
me the wise Guy. But I've kind of fallen out
of sorts. I haven't had it, they haven't had anything
that I've needed or wanted, and so there's been a
handful of products that we just haven't talked about on
the show.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I had a friend of mine named Tom lives out
here sent me a note, and I don't know if
people send you notes like this, he said, outdoor camera recommend.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Go Oh, I get those all the time. I also
send those to people too. So it's like, if I
want something like that, if I know a friend of
mine is versed in, I'm just like, give me information
on this thing that I know you know a lot about.
Go Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Well why is Wise become, though, like such a company
that makes these products that people want to buy? I
mean the Roku sells them as a third party device,
you know, with the Roku label. Why are they so popular?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I mean I think they just got a popularity because
they were so dirt cheap. You're paying thirty five dollars
for a security camera or less. When the big popular
ones Google, Nest and Google, you know, the ring cameras
and the other doorbell cameras from those big, big, big vendors.
And then here comes this little, eadybaty company that just
sneaks in under the radar and says here's a thirty

(26:03):
dollars camera, and everybody's like wait what And so yeah,
now that comes with risk, right, because there's an incentive
for these big companies to not let these small companies
get a foothold. So there were some security issues they
got found out pretty early that got that kind of
got covered up. There was some some shadiness around some
of the security stuff. I think they got through that,

(26:26):
but it's been a good ride. I have about a
dozen of them and a dozen of their bulbs. I mean,
all the blue light you see on the video and
for me is all through the Wise bulbs. They have
good products. I haven't had an issue with them. Every
company has their NASA ers. Everybody company has their their
their fanboys. They've been they've been good products and I
haven't had yeh, the pricing and I haven't had a
major issue with them, and they've just been good.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
So but you'll also like the subscription model they have
as well.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah so for so for the cameras, there's actually a
little bit of a newer version of the plan. There's
an Ultimate and then an Ultimate pro Plan and then
an Ultimate something that's there's a couple of different tiers
now of plans. But the plan that I have is
unlimited Camplus. So I pay ninety nine dollars a year,
so the whole year I get access to all the

(27:16):
Camplus features for any camera that I have. I can
just go in and add any unlimited number of cameras
to the Camplus platform, so that gives me cloud storage,
it gives me and there's a handful of things that
I get, but I think I've got about a dozen
cameras on that list. Now I'm not running those cameras
all the time, they're not all plugged in all at
the same time, but it gives me that. Otherwise, I

(27:38):
was paying four ninety nine a month per camera, per thing,
per month, per you know. So then it actually came
in and worked out to be a better deal for
that and yeah, so but I just haven't bought a new,
a new WIS product in quite a while. So the
newest one that Andy actually said that before the beginning
of the show. He's like, hey, has there been any

(27:58):
new WIS products lately? And so I open up the
word page, right there was a new palm scanner. So
it's a it's a Wise dead bolt lock, so they
have a smart lock. But this is what apparently could
do vein scanning. So not like you know, not like
in the sci fi movies where you put your palm
up and it reads the palm river, but or you

(28:18):
can just type the number in on the screen and
it'll do it. So it's got a Palm reader. It's yeah,
it's called the Wise Palm Block.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
So does it come with the so you to install
this lock in your door and it comes with that
and then yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
You're basically replacing your door handle with it.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
It would be like a smart lock, you know, on
your door or your dead bolt. So I wouldn't necessarily
say your door handle, but your dead bolt contact us
entry with palm vein recognition, you can control if you
can unlock it from your phone. It's got a six
months battery that it's got a really big it says
six month main battery. I don't know what the actual

(28:57):
size of the battery is because you can unlock it
with your Palm code, key app, voice assistant, or latch.
So it's just a cool little thing. It looks kind
of cool. I like the fact that they have so
many products. Sean every time.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
You know, you will talk about Whise, whether it be
the the camera over the garage. I've been wanting to
get one of those that has little lights. I mean,
I have a camera, but that's it and it picks
up pretty good, but not like you know shot. Matt
was talking about real ink, which is funny because I had.
I've had a real link camera forever and you never
really heard too much about them. Suddenly people are talking

(29:32):
about them. But Wise does it, and you save money
on it and you still capture what you need.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
So I think, I think if Wise does this one
thing and they make it available, that out of the box,
you can align these via RTSP, so you can record
to your own local storage on an ass or whatever
however you want to do it. Just by default, you
can enable it. Don't have to go buy a hacked

(30:01):
firmware to do it, which I've done. Give me RTSP
straight out of the box. Yeah, it's wireless whatever. You're
gonna get a little latency there. But then I can
then I can choose my own storage. I don't have
to rely on cloud storage. I don't have to. And
then I can view it all on my own and
I own my own server and I can do all
my own viewing if I want to, I connect to
my VPN, I can do. Give that to me, give
me the freedom to leave my own content on prem

(30:23):
instead of having to put it in the cloud. That
that would be huge for me because it would just
free up some security risks, some security concern like, you
don't have to if you want it available the cloud, sure,
but you don't have to have an available in the
cloud right now. It's all cloud right any recorded, any record,
well not, I wouldn't. I don't want to say it
all in the cloud. You can record locally to the
SD card, but to get that you have if you

(30:47):
want to view it on your phone, it has to
go to the cloud. There's some other things. If you
had the ability to just do all RTSP straight out
of the box, configure out how you wanted, it'd be huge.
But yeah, the other the other two products that they
had that we hadn't talked about. They have a wise
bulb cam.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
This is cool.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, so you suck a light bulb that you screw in.
It's got a camera hanging off the bottom. So think
of think of it like you put one in your
you know, the the wisconces that are around your garage door.
So the two lights that are on the opposite opposite
side of your garage door, one of them could now
have a ball in it and then a camera. Now
that's low hanging fruit for a thief if they want
to see they can don't screw it whatever. But any

(31:27):
light socket now could become a a camera which they
have a light socket adapter to also, which works pretty good.
But then you're left having that light switch on the
other thing. The other thing that I've found about found
out about Why's cameras or wise light bulbs is people
don't always know how to use them if you have

(31:49):
guests over. You know, I hacked physically hacked two of
the Whys switches to run them off USB. So right,
we've got one sitting next to the light stand in
our living room, and I've got one right here on
my desk that i can control all my lights down here.
So most people that see lamps in the rooms and

(32:10):
they don't see a switch, they just go over and
pull the pull the chain and turn them off. Well,
then if you go to hit the switch, it doesn't
do anything because the powers off. So I'm trying to
get people to understand that, no, you can just push
this push this button that's right next to the lamp
to control them both. Well, what if you want one
of them off? Because on the WHY switch you only

(32:31):
get four functions. You get one press, long press, double press,
triple press. So I've got it set in my living room.
For one, press is on right, long press turns all
of the lights in the house off. So even if
I lift my lights on down here, or if I
left the light light on the living room or the
back room or the garage, long press on any of

(32:53):
my lights, which just turns them all off. Double press
will put the lights in the living room at ten percent.
So if at nighttime we're trying to wind down, triple
press brings everything to one hundred percent. So like daytime,
if the lights are on, or if you're trying to
get a little bit brighter, you can just go triple press.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
So you do this all with the Wise app, right, Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Just could figure it in the Wise app. Yeah, So
every every switch you have can do those those four functions,
right or five functions long press, single press, double press,
triple press.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Have you thought about fight electric? See? The thing is
the Wise camp. The Wise cameras are great. The Wise
other features they've I mean they've done everything from even
you know, mobile vacuums like the rumba similar to that.
I don't know, you know, but the light bulbs themselves.
If you look at Fight f E I T they

(33:41):
make some bulbs and I have some of those and
I like them. Roku makes them as well, which I
think could be very well be Wise bulbs, but I'm
wondering the pricing. Wise, we see the pricing on the
cameras a lot better than the Nest cameras, you know,
much better than and the real links, but the real links
quality is amazing. I'm wondering if the bulbs themselves though,

(34:05):
if somebody wanted to do what you do where you
have them in one, you know, TV room, you could
change the color, you could make them do all of this.
It's a cheaper because.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
So the bulbs, their bulbs are still about twenty six
bucks apiece. I think you know, I've got some of
the Wise plugs, I've got the floor lamp, I've got
some of their LEDs. I mean, I kind of went
all out when they announced the light bulbs because I
thought they were really cool and they've been working really
really well. And I've actually got the ones that are
like the dome shaped ones too, so it's not just
the regular regular light socket ones. They have the bigger

(34:37):
dome ones because I have all recessed can lighting in
my basement and it helped quite a bit so I've
got two, four, six, eight, ten, twelve, probably fourteen of
them in the basement. I think maybe moreen Oh my lord, yeah,
I replaced them all and so like if I just
do a single, I just turned them off. But so
if I turn them on and I do a long

(34:57):
press right, turns them all the way. So now it's
all white throughout throughout this half of my basement.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
You need to pick up that rum shown look at that.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
This is my base was a disaster. And that's the
benefit of having a space to myself and to toddlers
that can't come down here. I can leave it them out.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
So two presses will then turn it back to blue
for the front of the show.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
And is that easy to program? So somebody listening maybe
is not too tech heavy, they could set something like
this up and maybe not have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, I mean you have to go in and tell it.
It's a rule, right, So it's like if this, then
that type of situation. Right. So it's like if this
is pressed twice, change these bulbs if you put them
in a group, so you put it, say change this
bulb group too blue at one hundred percent. Now I
also haven't said that if I triple tap this one
right and I'm watching a movie on my projector, the

(35:48):
two lights that are above the screen will shut off
while the other ones change.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Right, So it.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Reduces the light reflection off of the screen while keeping
the other bulbs on, but made a much timmer level
so you can kind of customize what it does. So
I've got a theater mode, so like if I want
watch a movie out here, I just triple tap this
and it changes, turns these ones off, keeps those ones on,
but dims the ones by the by the front.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Can you tie that into your home assistant so that way,
you know, if you walk into a room and you
if you've got a home assistant, like you know, an
Alexa or you know, maybe the Google one, you could say,
you know, turn on lights or turn on lights in
this room or whatnot. Can you do that with the
wise bolts?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I believe you can do a Google assistant and not sure.
I don't have a smart house, right, This is all
just me with buttons. I don't talk to my house,
so it's not something I've ever wanted to do. You know,
I've got friends that do it, and they think it's
the greatest thing ever. I just like I can go
push the switch, like I don't want to talk to
my house.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
You know what, it's scary when your house talks back
to you. That's the thing you got to really watch
out for. All right, let's see if we get well,
one question and we'll we'll come back with more. This
one is, hey, guys, maybe you can help with this.
I have an iPhone, so does a friend of mine.
When she sends a text something, sometimes it's blue, sometimes
it's green. What does it mean? Is there something wrong

(37:14):
with my phone? That came in from Bill?

Speaker 2 (37:16):
So if you both have iPhones and you both have
I messaging, when you get a green message, all that
means is that it was sent via text, via SMS,
via an actual text message because they either didn't have
enough service, were not on Wi Fi, some some form
of the it couldn't be sent through I message, meaning
it's not end to endencrypted. It's just a text message.

(37:38):
So because if you get low service, or you have
a single bar, or you're not a WiFi sometimes you
get the option or it fails to send. You can
press the little exclamation mark next to the message and
say try to send us text message. So that's what
I'll try to do.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
And that sometimes sometimes you'll have photo problems with photos
or larger files. But again, if it's just sent text
to each other and the colors are different, that's what
that means. All Right, we have a quick break, we
come back. We got another question, and it's all about
that upcoming date October fourteenth. I'm Andy Taylor.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
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Speaker 1 (38:18):
Weord there and now back to tech talk radio.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Watching a DVDA the other day, I saw that thing
that's at the beginning of dav days these days, you know,
the anti pyrusy advertisements, and this one said it said
you wouldn't steal a mobile phone, you wouldn't steal a car.
Guys might have seen this. I think to myself, well,
you're right, you know, I wouldn't steal a car. But
if it might of mine called me out and said, Sam,

(38:42):
I've just bought a new car. Would you like me
to burn you a copy? I reckon, I'd consider that.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Get another question on the show. We just handled Bill's
question about you know, the green blue text on an iPhone,
which also if you have an Android device, notice it
they're blue. Does that still let somebody know that you've
read their message?

Speaker 2 (39:04):
So about six months ago, Apple actually started supporting RCS messaging,
which was the whole Android not being able to talk
to Apple low res images and you can't whatever. So
if you and if that's enabled, and they have read
receipts enabled, you can now see when they're typing, if

(39:28):
they're type you know, if they're typing, if they've read
your message, et cetera. So the message is still green,
so you know it's not coming from an I message device,
but it's got the features of IE message pretty much
wrapped up.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
All right. Good now, Lisa sent us this question about
the big upcoming date October fourteenth, and some people have
been really worried about this, but this is a good question,
she said. This is about Windows ten. She said, her
company she works for has about ten computers all on
Windows ten, and the boss is freaking out thinking it
needs to buy ten new PCs ease Windows eleven and

(40:03):
all the work needed to do the transfer up to
data everything to those new PCs. She listened to the
show and heard us mention that for thirty dollars a year,
you could get your updates at least for a year.
At least it's for a year. This is what we
know of you could get the security updates. And she
wanted to know would that be safe to do? So

(40:23):
her boss isn't thinking he's going to have to drop
six hundred bucks, seven hundred dollars on a brand new
Windows eleven times ten, where instead he's paying thirty dollars
per seat. And again remember that's per seat, that's not
per PC. I mean, I mean not overall. That's going
to be three hundred bucks to get these security updates
if he's not ready to update.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
So I just looked it up. The Extended Security Update
for Organizations of Businesses on Windows ten can be purchased
today through the Microsoft Volume Weisley program sixty one US
dollars per device for year one.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Oh sixty one. So it's not thirty.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
So it's a little bit more than I think we
thought it was going to be. This is six days ago.
They posted this on the tenth of September.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
M Now, for I know for consumers though that are
in this boat that are like not wanting to update
to they don't want to buy new Windows eleven box.
They haven't been able to update. I will share this
with you. Ed Bot is one of the senior editors
at ZD net. Ed has been on this show a
couple of times. We're talking way back in the early days.

(41:26):
But ed put together an article that is a must read.
If you're sitting on the fence, you have Windows ten,
you don't want to go or you can't you can't
afford a new Windows eleven computer. You know, you do
all that transferring stuff and all that. Here's the deal.
Ed Bot's article, Well, yes, it'll mention the you know,
paying for consumer thirty dollars license. Also talks about one

(41:50):
drive if you want to allow one drive to do
your you know, you want to allow one drive to
do your backup, and Microsoft says will allow it. So
don't understand that. They think it's you know, it's a
way that Microsoft is going to get your data. But
it might be smart thinking on Microsoft's part, because you've
gone through this shun, you've updated somebody, they installed one driver,

(42:11):
They let one drive do the work, and then suddenly
they had to buy more storage.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Well they didn't buy more storage, but they were like, Oh,
why is it telling me I only have five gigs
of storage and I just bought a terribyte hard drive.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, and it filled up pretty quickly. So that's one way. Now.
Ed's article talks about TPM two point zero, which is
a trusted Platform module that a lot of people are
running into or even older processors. I ran into that.
I had a TPM that I purchased addeds to my
system and then I when it came to the processor,

(42:48):
it didn't meet the specs and it wasn't. That was
probably one below, one generation below what it needed to be.
But in the article that Ed put together, Ed bought
zd net, it goes over everything you need to think about,
including registry hacks to edit your registry and again it's
if you want to take this on. But again he

(43:09):
goes to the step by steps and using Rufous, which
is a program that is a free, open source portable
utility that can help you will help you create bootable
USB drives from isomag images that can help you get
over that and get Windows eleven installed, and.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
The Rufous, the Rufous way is the way to go
if you're if you're even remotely tech savvy and want
to reinstall Windows Windows eleven or go from ten to eleven. Rufous,
get the ISO, put it on rufous. You can skip
all of the BS that comes with uh, you know,
it just doesn't it just will install it. It's like

(43:49):
I don't care about TPM, I don't care about all
this sort of stuff. I'm just gonna install it and
if it works, it works great.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
But you may not be able to That's that's what
I ran into. But this article is is really well done.
And again it's on zd net you can look it up.
A lot of people have been thinking about doing that one.
And I don't know if this would work for Lisa's
situation at her company. I mean, that's you know, that's
that's quite a bit to bite off. I would I

(44:18):
would not rec Do you think that the hackers and
those that are sending malware are going to step it
up October fifteenth?

Speaker 2 (44:25):
But I'm just wondering probably.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
I mean, yeah, they're gonna look for holes.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I mean, it's always going to be a constant threat.
And I think you just have to keep up on
keeping your patches in place because those companies have people
that their whole job is to just look for threats
and update code and push you know, you know, if
you work at an organization, I'm sure you get the

(44:51):
emails to say, patch Chrome, there's a critical day one
day zero vulnerability. Patch Chrome. You know it's I get
them at least once a week from the university saying
your browser has to updated because there's a patch. Your
OS st updated because it's a patch. Your Windows OSS
to be patched, your phone OS has to be patched,
your watch OS has to be patched. I mean, think

(45:13):
about all the devices you own that are connected to
the internet. They're all running some version of OS. So
that's a lot of places that people could be hiding
malicious you know, malicious content that people have to think about, watches, phones, cars,
you know, pacemakers, probably he even think about it. Right,
It's like even the smallest device that could be a

(45:34):
computer could be the target of a malicious code. So
all right, I wanted.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
To ask you about this new product from Roku, and
I'll be honestly, I just bought myself the TV in
our studio, went out the thirty two inch TV we had,
and we just basically used it for graphics, it's got
the Sling TV on it, or is no TVO I'm sorry.
It's got the TVO on it, which is an online service,

(46:01):
and I get watch channels and it has a guide,
the whole bit. But I needed to get a new
TV for the studio for our background, so I went
shopping and I found a Roku television which is actually
pretty cool, and the Roku tee for one hundred and
eighteen bucks for a forty we'll say it was a
forty two inch a high sense ten ADP. Not I

(46:24):
didn't go four K. I would have to spend another
one hundred bucks on that, but I was, I was
pretty impressive. Roku actually has some pretty neat features on
it as well. And I don't know if you've used
Roku TVs, but I was.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Like, we do, yeah, not that. So I like my
our Roku TV. I think the best part about it,
and this is what I use this quite often is
with the Roku app. For what it gives you a remote control.
It has your apps all right there, so you can
just tap on like Plex, Disney plus Netflix, and I'll
think you're right there. It doesn't even load the rest,
It just takes you to that app, it logs in.

(46:58):
The feature I like the most is when I'm cleaning
around the house and I don't want to be tied
to my phone, I'll put on my Bluetooth headphones, open
the Roku app, start something on my TV unplucked for whatever,
put it in headphone mode, which then plays the audio
through my Bluetooth headphones from the tee fake. It's playing

(47:18):
on the TV, so it's not using the bandwidth to
my phone, but it's broadcasting the audio to me in
my headphones. So I can just watch it on TV.
But I can then walk around the house and clean
or do stuff. Well I'm still listening to the show
or whatever I'm watching that. I use it all the time.
It's perfect for if you're vacuuming and you're trying you know,
you're vacuuming the living room and you're like trying to

(47:39):
watch and listen at same time. You can't do that
without headphones on, but if you do that, it's great
and their noise canceling so bock and so I use
it all the time when I'm walking around the house.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
So now so for somebody with maybe hearing difficulties, yeah,
you can.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Pair it with your you can pair it with this
is a This is a good thing and a bad thing. Right.
My buy dad and my father in law both have
new really fancy hearing aids that you compare bluetooth to.
So sometimes you walk into the house they're watching TV.
You sit down, you try to talk to them, but

(48:13):
they can't hear you because they're listening to the TV
in their in their uh they're whatever, they're hearing aids. Yeah,
and then they see you and they're like, oh, I
didn't know you were there because I was listening to
the TV in my hearing aids. Because they're like they're like, oh,
you know, my mom will be on her iPad doing
work and my dad wants to watch TV, but it's

(48:33):
distracting from my mom, so he'll put it into his
hearing aids and then my mom needs his attention but
he can't hear her.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Okay, So here's some though, and I'm wondering about this, Sean,
have this. This will work pretty good. So if somebody
is watching a show and they just have a little
harder time hearing it. You know, I've been wearing headphones
for ford almost forty years. Right in this job, and
my hearing is not the best in the world because
of that constant you know, feeding right into my ear.

(49:03):
So I always have the TV up too loud. Glory's
always saying, can you tryin it down? It'steal loud? Sorry,
she doesn't always sound like that. But and I'm wondering,
could I put the bluetooth from a Roku television into
my my earbuds, right, and then she could still hear
the TV.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Don't know, I've never tried it. I've never tried it. It
always just mutes it the output of the TV. So
I don't know. Now, could two people on two separate
phones here it that way? I don't know, never tried.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
It, all right, We're always investigate that one.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
But yeah, So back to the projector, right.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, they're now new projector from Roku.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, new projector from Roku. It's ten ADP, right. It
can take in four K, so you could feed it
the four K source, but it downscales into ten ADP,
which is fine hundred thirty antsy lumens not the best,
but not the worst. And it says it can do
forty inch one hundred and fifty inch. Yeah, it's got

(50:00):
auto focus in auto Keystones. Keystone is like the Z
dimension space like if you're trying to get it, so
it looks flat, right, It's got a ten y It's
got a built in speaker, so if you're portable and
you're trying to get it, it looks awesome. Bluetooth heads
phone mode, which we just talked about here go and
works with Roku wireless speakers or some bars. It has

(50:22):
Apple Play support. Plus it has the Roku OS so
any app if you have a Roku TV, any app
that you can get on the TV will be available
on the projector, which is great.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Which have you you use a projector? Right? I have?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I have a ben Q ten ADP. I bought it
when we bought the house. It's you know, from twenty nineteen.
It's been great. It's powerhouse to hd my inputs, so
I can go between my computer if I want to
put my computer up there, or my on Q sounds.

(50:59):
My receiver so I've got you know, my switch, my Xbox,
my PlayStation, a Blu ray player. All that stuff is
plugged into the on Kyu receiver and then I can
change the source and it'll push the HDMI out to
the projector, which is great because then I can also
just bluetooth audio if I want to listen to music,
because I've got you know, I've got surround sounds set

(51:19):
up down here too. So it sounds really good on
watching movies.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
But was it a big adjustment to go from a
screen to go to a projected screen or did you
really not even notice it? Is it that good?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
No? No, I've got you know. Our house fortunately came
with a drop down pulled down a drop down screen
that's one hundred and thirty inches, so I had to
set the projector up at the appropriate distance. But it
looks fantastic. I mean, we've watched Super Bowls, New Year's Eve,
you know, twitch Con, blizz Con, you know, anything we

(51:53):
like to watch. We just pull it up either from
my Xbox or from my PC, just plugged in HTMI.
So this is looks it sounds great.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Their first projector they put out. And the nice thing
about it costs wise because the bank cues I know,
are very pricey.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, it was about eight hundred bucks I think.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yeah, we looked at one from Samsung years ago that
was huge and it was great at four K the
whole bit. But you can pick this up for under
two hundred.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Bucks two hundred and forty nine MSRP or one hundred
and seventy nine on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
All right, we gotta take another quick break. We come
back more of tech talk Radio.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, friend us on
Facebook at tech Talkers.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
And now back to tech talk Radio.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Right before the break, we were discussing the Roku projector
and the Roku TVs today before the show got to
my TV and I launched the Pleux app and it's like,
please wait, we're updating. And I was like, wait what.
I normally don't have auto update apps on because I
hate sometimes when they auto update and they sign you
out or they cause all sorts of problems and you're like,

(52:55):
wait a minute, I don't like this feature, et cetera, etcetera.
And it's hard you're.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Trying to use it.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah, and companies don't make it easy to go backwards.
But didn't have any issues with this. It's like, great,
this looks fine. There's some some uy changes, nothing nothing big.
Not the case for a lot of people on recoup
TVs for the Plex app, specifically the update apparently picture
quality issues frequent stuttering and crashes of the Plex app
on rocou TVs.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
For our listeners that don't know Plex, what is.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Plex is a home media server. You can curtail it
to your own liking. You can have your own content
on a server that will play your a PC that'll play,
but it can also play live TV. It can play
you know. It's like Sling, it's like fu Boo, it's
like any of those other free apps that can get
content to you via their free channels. Primarily, it's used

(53:44):
for people that have their own media that they want
to stream from a server or their own PC. But
the other note that I wanted to mention before we
wrap up the show was if you have Plex, you
should probably be changing your password. They had a security
breach about a week ago. They've had a few over
the years, but this one was just the most recent.

(54:04):
So again, just be vigilant. Change the password, you know,
give it that special character, give it you know, don't
name it after your dog or you know, those those
types of things. So just just read up about it
if you want. But it seems like it wasn't, you know,
from their PR standpoint, doesn't seem like it was that bad,
but any hack is bad, so just change passwords. And
if you have the pleasapp on Rokuo TV, be wary

(54:26):
that if you update it it may or may not
work as you expect, so just proceed of caution.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
So all right, Well that's it for this week's show.
Hopefully the guys will all be back with us next week,
and Justin's will have all his hair dealing with network
issues today, so again that'll be hopefully next week. In
the meantime, thank you, Sean, great information. If you have
a question for us, you can certainly drop us a
line tech Guys at tech talk radio dot com. I'm
Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Toward.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Have a great week.

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