December 4, 2025 • 38 mins
Bold Predictions for the Big 10 Championship – Buckeye Weekly Podcast
In this episode of the Buckeye Weekly Podcast, hosts Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr dive into their bold predictions for the Big Ten Championship game between Ohio State and Indiana. They reminisce about the Ohio State-Michigan game traditions, discuss past predictions, and set the stage for an exciting showdown with high stakes. Will Tony or Tom emerge victorious in their predictions contest? Tune in to hear their thoughts on key players, potential game-breaking moments, and what they believe could happen on the field in Indianapolis. Don't miss out on the fun and rivalry as our hosts gear up for the big game!
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:30 Bold Predictions for the Big Ten Championship
01:14 Controversy Over Last Week's Predictions
02:04 Detailed Breakdown of Predictions
03:46 Discussion on Specific Players and Stats
06:11 Final Predictions and Analysis
21:04 Bold Predictions for the Game
21:09 Debating the 51-Yard Play
22:19 Fourth Down Attempts Analysis
23:49 Impact Plays by Jackson and Curry
25:45 Field Goal Predictions
26:55 Caleb Downs' Interception Prediction
32:03 Julian Sand's Touchdown Potential
36:13 Bonus Predictions and Wrap-Up
In this episode of the Buckeye Weekly Podcast, hosts Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr dive into their bold predictions for the Big Ten Championship game between Ohio State and Indiana. They reminisce about the Ohio State-Michigan game traditions, discuss past predictions, and set the stage for an exciting showdown with high stakes. Will Tony or Tom emerge victorious in their predictions contest? Tune in to hear their thoughts on key players, potential game-breaking moments, and what they believe could happen on the field in Indianapolis. Don't miss out on the fun and rivalry as our hosts gear up for the big game!
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:30 Bold Predictions for the Big Ten Championship
01:14 Controversy Over Last Week's Predictions
02:04 Detailed Breakdown of Predictions
03:46 Discussion on Specific Players and Stats
06:11 Final Predictions and Analysis
21:04 Bold Predictions for the Game
21:09 Debating the 51-Yard Play
22:19 Fourth Down Attempts Analysis
23:49 Impact Plays by Jackson and Curry
25:45 Field Goal Predictions
26:55 Caleb Downs' Interception Prediction
32:03 Julian Sand's Touchdown Potential
36:13 Bonus Predictions and Wrap-Up
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom, how's it.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Going, Tony.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Back in the day at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center,
Urban Meyer used to play It's time for War the
whole week, just unrepeat won the.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Whole week of the Michigan game.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
And that is a tradition that went away after Urban
handed the reins over to Ryan Day. This though, Tony,
the Bold Prediction Show for the Big Ten Championship Game.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I don't know that we've ever done one of these before.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I don't think we were doing one of these in
twenty twenty. And Tony, we know what's on the line
here the cot of Shame for the extended college football
Quarterfinal Bold Trip Tony, So, Tony, You'll never guess which
song I've been listening to on repeat all week knowing
(00:57):
that this is coming.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Can I sing it the way that our buddy Steve
hall Wagen sings it? Which is It's time for or
which is a terrible rendition both by me and by
Steve and by anybody else who would choose to sing that.
But yes, everybody, Welcome to the Bold Prediction Show. Now, Tom,
there's some controversy as to who won last week? Do
you have you have? You have you dialed up and
(01:22):
tallied everything up.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No, the last time we had a conversation about it,
I was comfortably ahead. So what kind of lies are
you or our listeners spinning that would make that not
the case?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You stay comfortably ahead. I think you only got two
of yours correct, or only one of them correct? Right, Like.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I had a brand and touchdown, and you had Carnel
Tate and Jeremiah Smith combining for at least two touchdowns,
So you get two correct, uh huh for two and
a half points.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, go on.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Two correct because I also got I also got at
least two correct here. So Carnel Tate scores a touchdown
outside of the eleven date minute mark of the second quarter.
I had Julian sand with two touchdowns outside of the
red zone. Could not be thirty four yards they were
not one was thirty five.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And then also I had a two pointer. Michigan has
held to one hundred and eight yards rushing or fewer,
which would have been their lowest total of the year.
I think you threw on there, like it must be
below three point five one yards per carry, So I'm
going to give myself a half point for that, which
puts me at three points, you at two and a half.
(02:39):
And here we are.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Michigan ran for four point two yards per carry.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So it sounds Tony like, you know, well, while it
was quite an effort, it was not enough to win.
So congratulations to you for almost beating me and almost
getting to sleep on an actual grown up bed this
weekend in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I'm still confused as to how I allowed the one
the point five to half point for that, and I
know I think I'm the one that mentioned a half
point or something and then you latched onto it like, uh.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I would never be so presumptuous.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm happy to play by.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I'm just happy to play by the rules that you
would like to, you know, for out there.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So that's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's I'm driving in my car and I run over
a half point and you, like a vulture seeing carry
and dead dead carcass on the road, You're like, I
want that, I will take a half point.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And Tony, as we all know, you don't hit half points.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Only I do that, So would you like to begin, Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
More than anything in the world, Tony.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
All right, so as as you.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Are defending champion, and please please call me the champ,
I'm gonna tell you that Fernando Mendoza, not once this
year and only once in the last two season, has
thrown multiple interceptions in a game, Tony. That is what
makes it so shocking that I'm going to correctly predict
that it will happen this week in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
How many times will you throw two interceptions?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
This feels like a question that's being set up for
you to pretend later that you're confused. So I'm going
to say he's going to throw two interceptions this weekend,
just once though, yes, but over the span of the
whole weekend. So if he listen, if he throws some
interceptions on the bus on the way from Bloomington, that counts.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Do you know what he normally does in Decembers as
a starting quarterback, because I'll tell.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You in Decembers what a meaningful sample size where I'm
sure we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, go on twenty twenty three against Texas Tech in
some sort of a ballgame, three interceptions and you're telling
me that two is bald. Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, I take it all back for Nando Mendoza literally
two years ago in a meaningless Bowl game for Cal
against Texas Tech, a thing that is going to have
so much to do with what happens this weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yes, all right, we will accept this with one caveat.
It cannot be Taiwan Malone.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I was actually going to throw out the same thing.
I'm only if it's Edward Houston I get one and
a half points. You have to say yes because it's
really stupid.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I know, and that's that's the unfortunate part that I
have to say yes, Kim Okay, I don't like that
this is now part of the rules of the game,
and especially if he gets both of these that's three points.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Well I wasn't going to say that, but if you
say that, then all right, that's fine. I would never
be so presumptuous. But you, if you, if you choose
to offer these, are gonna start getting a lot shorter friends,
because Tony's gonna recognize that the more he talks, the
worse off he is. So he's just gonna be like, yes, no, next,
that's gonna be it that's gonna be the end.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Of his conversation his contribution.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So, Tony, do you have another one for us? Would
you like to share your first one?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Edric Houston has two interceptions.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
A tremendous Hedge Yes, Gerdaman and associates Hedge funds.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That's smart.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I'll tell you what, if you'd.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Like that to be your three pointer, I will let
you have that big as your three pointer.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I was just gonna ask for one and a half now,
my first one point. And to be honest, I've only
got four right now, so I'm gonna have to work
out a fifth one at some point.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Perhaps I have a bunch of extras so we can.
I'm happy to share.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Here you go. This is one that you probably all
also have. Jeremiah Smith and Carnel will take do something
that they've done twice this year. They will both go
over one hundred yards receiving. They did it against Ohio,
they did it against Penn State. Have not done it.
Since this is a Indiana defense, one of the best
in the nation, I'm going to assume, and don't quote
(07:04):
me on this, but feel free to believe me that
Indiana has not allowed two receivers to go over one
hundred yards each this season.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, I'm glad that you have established that if something
has only happened against Ohio and Penn State in particular
this season, that that would be a bold thing to
predict to happen this weekend, because Tony, you'll never guess.
I have one is that exact set of parameters. So
I'm going to allow this one, even though it feels
like this is one that's fairly likely to happen. I'm
(07:35):
going to allow it because then it leaves you absolutely
powerless when I tell you, Tony, that there are going
to be three scores between the two teams in the
middle eight. So three scores between the two teams in
the final four minutes of the first half, the first
four minutes of the second half. And Tony, it's only
happened twice all season in Ohio State games. Would you
like to guess which two games had happened in?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, would not care. How many times has in the
enda done it?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I don't know, Tony. I was not going to go
through twenty four individual box scores. I felt like I
felt like I had proved my point with the with
the Ohio state side of things.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
As long as we've established we don't have to go
and look at the other team's box scores for any
reason because blah blah blah. So I like this three
scores between the middle eight, Tom, except there cannot be
a thirty four yard field goal at least if there's
two you can have one.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Boy, that would then be four scores in the middle eight,
which feels somewhat unlikely. Cannot be a thirty four yard
field goal. Can I retroactively go back and take away
one thirty four yard reception from one of the two
receivers if I name the receiver.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Pretty sure, finger out the checker. Now, if here was,
we can go back, But then it becomes a one
and a half point bold prediction.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
No, well then we'll We'll leave it as is. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That's the cost of doing business.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Talking to you, certainly is yes, all right, go on
with your second one.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Here's one Stephen Daily, Indiana defensive and has ten tackles
for loss over his last three games. I believe I'm
saying no more than a half a tackle for loss
for Daily in this game time.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And I'm just doing this off the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But I feel like it's been like twice all year
that he's had two or three times this year that
he's only had half a tackle or zero tackles for loss?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That is correct?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And I will remind you Ohio State has allowed at
least one tackle for loss and like every game this year.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
This is not the most This is not the most
bold prediction I've ever heard on this show. This is
not the most bold prediction I've heard on this show. Too.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The least bold prediction I've heard.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Can't be a seventeen yard loss?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
What can I put on this.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Cannot happen anything from the Any tackle for no gain
from the seventeen or thirty four yard line counts as
a tackle for loss.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, I don't care for that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I'm sure you don't.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That means i've That means I have struck the ball
well and down the center of the fairway, which, Tony,
I don't know how much you golf, but that's where
you want to be. It's not where I am a lot,
but that's where you want.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
To be About this. I'll change my number. No more
than one tackle for lost for Stephen Daily.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Wait, no, that's not no.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
No, Oh, that's not the right direction.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I like that you started to consider if for just
a split second, all right, tackles were lost between.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
This is my perpetual dilemma. Is he this dumb? Or
is he just pretending to be this dumb?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
And sometimes these shows stretch out because I really have
to think for a while.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'm gonna say I don't. I'm not gonna allow seventeen
to thirty four. I will say between the twenty yard
line and thirty yard line.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm not saying between. I'm saying
tackles for zero for no gain on the seventeen.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Or the thirty four.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That's fine, that I was not. I wasn't trying to
get a span. I'm looking for just those particular yard lines.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Okay, all right, we will allow that tackles for no
gain on the seventeen thirty four count as TFLs and
that's all right. Okay, go ahead, Tony.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Do you know what has not happened? Indiana and Ohio
State had been playing football all season long, all the
way back to August. Do you know what neither team
has done once this season in which their opponents have
only done once.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
All season.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Returned you hope to kickoff for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
No attempted an on side kick once for either team
and only once for the for an opponent, and that
was against Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And I literally cannot remember when that happened in an
Ohio State game. However, Tony, it is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
One of these teams is going to attempt an on
side kick in a way that shows up in the
box score as an on side kick, because that is
a stat that they track in this game.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I don't like this one because one of the reasons
there hasn't necessarily been a kick against Ohio State is
there really hasn't been a reason. I assume maybe Texas
did it because they needed to get the ball back
in the final in it, I don't there's like two minutes,
so maybe they didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, but I was trying to think if it was
maybe Illinois maybe did that.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Because I can definitely see this because you do expect
it to be a situation where the game is close enough,
if you're scoring late, you're gonna you're gonna kick an
onside kick one way or the other. But if there's
only been one over there.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
For any team involved, in either team's games all season.
I will also give you, Tony, the kickoff cannot come
from the seventeen or thirty four yard line. If that
helps you in it?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
What's that? What's that shows you on side kicks?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Just care if you search, if you go to Indiana's
official website or Ohio State's official website and you click
on team stats, it's somewhere down near the bottom.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Okay, all right, it feels like Oregon would have right,
but I mean they could have done it in the
second quarter with Dan Lane they have.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yes, it helps this year for Ohio State as Maryland
wasn't on the schedule. So that's one thing that sort
of helps Ohio State not have one.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Can I say, but it can't be in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
No, you sure can't. But thank you, unless you want
to make.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
This a bonus two and a half pointer.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
No, I don't want to make any more things ever. Again,
all right, I don't like this one because again, it
should just lead. This should happen late in the game.
But we'll see if it's that close, and frankly I
don't think it will be. But even then, if Indiana
is down seventeen points and they score, or if they're
(14:39):
down twenty four points and they score with thirty seconds
to go against the second teamers, they're kicking an outside kick,
So there's almost no way this doesn't happen, which is
I really hate to do this to the show and
to the history of the show, to the people that
listen and watch it. When it's like ever, ability isn't boldness,
(15:01):
that's just this is just me giving up and wanting
to go to the next one. So we'll go ahead
and allow it. The people won't. The people will forgive me, Tom,
they won't forgive you. So let's go. Let's go back
to being bold. Ohio State will have a touchdown run
of at least thirty four yards in this game. As
(15:24):
you know, when they do have some long ish runs,
they basically get tackled before the end zone. I don't
even know the last time it probably would have been
James Peoples from was that thirty or so a couple
of weeks ago. I know it was maybe fifty. But
I'm going to say Ohio State has a touchdown run
of at least thirty four yards, of which maybe do
(15:45):
they have more than one?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
This year they have eight of eight rushes of thirty
yards or more. I don't know how many of them
went for touchdowns. I'm just looking to see how many
Indiana has given up this year, like four has given up.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
For the fact that you're the fact that you're mentioning
this is a touchdown, I think, yes, probably.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
You know, if this was if this was just a
run of thirty four, I don't think I view it
as bold.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The fact that it's a the fact that it's a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I mean, bo Jackson has had it feels like most
of his long ones he's ended up getting brought down
inside the five for some reason, and they've scored.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
A lot on runs from inside the five. So I
am actually going to allow this.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I think this is a I think this is a
good one, and it's certainly when you could absolutely see happen.
But is you know, it's something also that just hasn't
happened a lot this season. So I think it does feel,
you know, sufficiently bold, at least you know, by your standards.
All right, Tony, how about this one? And boy, I
think this one, this is one you may end up
(16:56):
deciding later I want this TV or two pointer.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But here's here's one.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
This season, Julian Saying thirty touchdowns, five interceptions, Fernando Mendoza
thirty two touchdowns, five interceptions, virtually identical stats.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Julian Saying is.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Going to be plus two in touchdowns and throw fewer
interceptions than Fernando Mendoza on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Tell me which you think is bolder, because I also
have a Julian Saying versus Mendoza one. So you're saying
Saying has two plus touchdowns and has to have fewer interceptions.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Right, Yes, So if Mendoza throws one touchdown, Saying has
to throw at least three, and then Mendoza has to
throw at least one interception and say it has none
or Mendoza throws two insane has one or none?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yes, here here's I think this is okay based on
the fact that two very good offenses to very good
defenses this time would win the Heisman. Then for Julian saying,
do you think is that? Is this why you're not
allowing me to say, I don't think it's bold enough
because this is something for the people. This is a
(18:09):
fan service that you're throwing out there, which is just
tasteless and tacky. But I think this would win the
Heisman then, provided it's not two interceptions, two touchdowns and
one or three interceptions for Julian Saying versus the four
interceptions of Bernanda Mendoza with no touchdowns. But I will
(18:31):
allow this, But can I throw a button there?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
You seem like you were sort of keying up the
fact that you had something similar, So I kind of
would like to hear your similar one.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And I am also thinking and then I may might
draw it back. I think Mendoza should have to have
a touchdown pass, but then having say and throw three
is that's also kind of a tall order. So I'm
just gonna let you have this one, and then I
will say my one. Now that we're being all friendly,
(19:09):
I have a Juliet Saying outpasses Mendoza by seventy five yards.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Seventy five yards.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
See, this is one where, depending on the game, like mine,
feels like you're predicting a very specific game state if
that happens yours.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Is does this have to be done within the first
three quarters? Probably?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, maybe or in the fourth quarter? Yeah no.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I Well, now I'm trying to decide if the first
three quarters would make it more likely or less likely
to happen because it's you know.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
In the scenario where.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Hmm, yeah, in the scenario where this has happened through
three quarters, Ohio State is shutting it down and Mendoza
is presumably still throwing in the fourth quarter unless.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
They pull him.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But if they pull him, then they would pull stay in.
So I would love to put some kind of a
caveat on this in some form.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
If you throw it, if you confine it to the
three quarters, I'm gonna have to ask for one and
a half points.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
No, No, I'm not gonna do that. I'm trying to
decide if there's a.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't think there is.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Double.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Okay, So thirty four plus seventeen we've established on this show,
long established in this in the lore of this show,
that thirty four plus seventeen is fifty one. So a
fifty one yard pass for Julian saying does not count.
Other than that, totally fine. Exactly fifty one yard fifty two,
that's fine. If it's fifty, that's fine, But exactly fifty
one yards does not count.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I don't care for that one. Boy, Okay, how.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Do you then, why don't you boldly predict Julian saying
to have a pass of exactly fifty one yards and
I'll get one.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's at least three points. Frankly, okay, a pass of
I'll even do this. A pass or run of fifty
one yards does not.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Count, well, considering this is just a passing one, very
generous of.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You, okay, But a run of fifty one yards does count, then, Tom,
if you want to be so dismissive and cocky about it,
If and then also runs for a fifty one yarder,
then that fifty one yarder counts.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
But if Mandoza runs for fifty one yards, that counts
for him.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
No, I can't do that. No, I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
As hard say, if Tony, if Julian Saying has a
fifty one yard run in this game, I will give
you three points just for that special bonus. Three points
from me to you. Merry Christmas, thank you very much.
All right, go ahead, Okay, So I have four now.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You also said you have four, So I'm gonna give you.
I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I No, I'm I've got mine now, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
You've got your fifth one? Okay, yep, Well, in that case,
I'm going to say that Indiana seven for fifteen on
fourth down attempts this season, so basically one attempt per game.
I'm gonna say they have at least three attempts on
fourth down in this game. Churtzignetti not particularly likely to
(22:38):
go four on fourth down as far as as coaches.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
So you're gonna say at least three times they've done that.
Once it was against Iowa, they were zero for three.
They've not done it in multiple games since the UCLA.
There are multiple times in a game since UCLA. So
all right, three times going forward on fourth down. Okay, again,
(23:03):
this is all if Ohio State is winning comfortably, I
think you're going to score well in this one, just
so you know, with the on side kick and the
saying two touchdowns and.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
The Tony espally so like then the viewers would have
two reasons to be happy. So there you go again,
audience service. We're here to make people happy, and we
know who everyone's rooting for.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And I don't just mean Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
At least I've got the Taiwan Malone interception in my
back pocket. Okay, my fourth one, my fifth one is
something that has happened twice this year sort of, and
we've established that something that has only happened twice is
bold enough for one point, as.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Long as it only happened against Ohio and Penn State.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yes, go on, can yat To Jackson and Kayden Curry
will combine for three impact plays. Now, Tom, you're gonna
say that doesn't seem like a lot. And one of
the times that happened was because Kayden Curry had five
tackles for loss.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That was Yeah, that was at Washington. Yes, ken YadA,
did it happen against Michigan because it felt like Kenyada
Jackson maybe basically did that last week.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Ken YadA had two tackles for loss last week, and
Cayden Curry did not believe do anything of note other
than his tackles. And I can look that up real
quickly just to confirm, But.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, you might.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You're probably right. I probably have the Michigan box for
here somewhere.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah. No, no tackles for loss for Cayden Curry, no
pass blocks, no forced fumbles. So yeah, it's it sounds
like a low number, Tom, maybe to some.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But the fact that what was the other game it
happened in other than Washington because Washington was in the
free space and the Bengo card because that was jack
Cayden Curry game.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Penn State, may check Rutgers or Pence State. Let me
check here quick, Penn State, ken YadA Jackson had two
and a half tackles for loss. Okay, and I believe
that there was any outside of passbox. So both times
it's been done, it's the one guy doing it.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
One guy.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, So this is something that is never really yea.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
And so if you had picked one of these guys
to have two and a half impact plays, that might
have been you know, I would have at least sort
of maybe entertained that as a two point two pointer
if you picked one specific guy to do it. So therefore,
if you're splitting it between two guys and it really
only has happened twice, then I'm probably stuck saying yes.
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So all right, we'll say yes and we'll move on
with life. Tony, we have established. I went back and looked,
we established just a few weeks ago. I believe it
was the UCLA game that this exact bold prediction is
worth two points. So, Tony, when I tell you that
for the first time since the Year of Our Lord
twenty nineteen, Ohio State kicks a field goal of fifty
(25:52):
plus yards. You are obligated to say yes, So go ahead,
say yes, and we'll move on.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
With the show.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That was actually Rutgers, which has no bearing. You say, UCLA,
you're lying to the people, You're already misleading are and
you're throwing half truths out there, trying to pull a
fast one on everybody.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
But sorry, during one during one of the games, during
the three week series of interchangeable slop between Penn State
and Michigan, I did.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Make that prediction for two points and you accepted it, So.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Moving it. I'm moving on, moving on. I was also
thinking about that one. I was like, no, that's Tom's baby. Well,
we'll let him keep trying that one. But just so
you know, the time I do pick it, it's going
to hit.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yes, that that is absolutely the new two twenty two,
twenty one hundred percent, Like I can. I am already
pre annoyed at the fact that you're going to pick
that in you know, the peach Bowl or something, and
it's going to happen, and I'm going to be deeply annoyed.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Here's my two pointer. Caleb Downs has a second half interception.
We know one point is you calling for an interception
for a player is always good for one point, I'm
taking half the game away from him adding another point
in there. So a second half interception for Caleb Downs
in this game. I don't think we've ever done this
(27:17):
one before. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
No, that's a new one. In honor of his jersey
number two. May I remove a two minute span from
the second half, or may I remove two separate yard
lines from which that play cannot happen? Your choice?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Tell me the two minute span first.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, go to need
a decision from you, and then I'm happy to honor
your wishes, Tony.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Then I'll say no, no no is not an option.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
No which you said, Tony, it is time to say
yes to the dress.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Let's go. Which one is it?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Why do I need to have a caveat for this one?
Just tell me that because I tell the people ge whiz, Tony.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
The people want you to do something bold and I'm
trying to make that happen for you.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
All right, So what was your your yardage line? What
are you saying?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I will either the the yardage the yard line on
the statu sheet from which the ball is snapped. You
can pick two numbers which I will pick two numbers
from which it does not count. I bet you can
guess what the numbers are. Or a two minute span
of the second.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Now you can pick two yardage lines that this can't
happen from Tony.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
You're not gonna believe it. Seventeen and thirty four.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Now, is this where the ball is snapped or the
ball is caught?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Where the ball is snapped, because that's going to be
that be very clear and easy on the statuet.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Okay, now, technically, Tom, that is four yardage markers.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Tony, I gotta tell you to be real honest, I
was hoping you wouldn't notice, but it sure is.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Thank you for thank you for mentioning that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And because of your condescension throughout this entire show. If
you do want just two yardage markers, you can have
the seventeen or the thirty four.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I think I'm going to take the Indiana thirty four
on the Indiana side of the field and the Ohio
State seventeen.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Oh wow, Okay, interesting, You're covering as wide a path
as you can essentially almost, So Okay, we will, Boy,
this would be devastating, absolutely devastating.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Good Now you see what I'm going for. Perfect, Glad, Glad,
We're on the same page, all right, my three pointer, Tony. Yes,
Indiana has not allowed a pass play of sixty plus
yards all season long. Ohio State has only won the
pass play of sixty yards or more and that came
against Grambling. That was a long touchdown for Jeremiah Smith
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against Grambling. So Ohio State has not had a pass
of sixty yards or more against FBS competition all season long.
Indian has not allowed one. That is why, Tony for
three points, I'm going to correctly predict that Ohio State
has not one, but two pass plays of sixty plus
yards on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
M That's Tom, that may be.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
The boldest one of your one of.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Your boulder picks. Two sixty yard receptions exactly for Ohio States. Yeah,
I mean I can't. I can't say no to that one.
Has you say it's happened once for Ohio State. Has
not happened at all for Indiana, So we will allow that.
(30:52):
That's that's a pretty good one, Tom, who who just
take a couple of random guesses, like who would you
think would be the most likely players to do that?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well, Tony, I certainly won't be putting any parameters on
this othough than you know, beyond what I've already said.
But you know, I think I can think of two
Ohio state wide receivers where if I named two names,
I would say, if it's going to happen, it's probably
going to be one of those two guys, or perhaps
one from each of those guys.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I would like to throw like something on there, like
it has to it can't be from.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
But it's like, okay, can't be David Adolf.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
That's fine, I'll give you that.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
One, all right, I'll do that one. Now we've established.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Which will be more devastating, the seventy five yard David
Adolph touchdown or the Caleb Downs interception on a play
from the Ohio State seventeen?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Which one will have Ohio State bands.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Going crazy and you or I just screaming in anger
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I think, well, I mean the three porter clearly would
be just amazing. Now you've chosen something that has happened,
I'm going to choose something that has never happened and
that is Julian Sayan scores a touchdown, just could be
a rush, could be a catch.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Okay, So I had my other three pointer that I
have here is Julian Sayan has a receiving touchdown. That
would be a legitimate three pointer.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
And I do think.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
That's a real possibility that they're running some Philly special,
you know, get get get him one in the fourth quarter.
I would I would view that one as one hundred percent.
Julian sand has a rushing touchdown is not That's not
a three pointer.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
That's that's like what I'm going at.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Well, I think if have you seen him sneak the ball? Tom,
have you seen it?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I'm sure yeah, he came about that far away from
that happening last Saturday.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
That is absolutely not a three porter.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
If you want to do a receiving touchdown, I would
be one hundred percent fine.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
With that, And I would even about if you feel that's.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Super unlikely to happen, I would be perfectly happy to
give you my three pointer and take that one, because
I feel like that's less bold than mine.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I will say, a touchdown of at least seven yards.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Receiving.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Wow, all right, I wasn't gonna put that.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
He's never done rushing or receiving. You're throwing something out
there that we've seen happen. I'm throwing something out there
that we've never tom not since the poor boy was
in high school. So so you're just going to go
to the Jim Arbaugh.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
He was.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
He was that far away from from doing it last week.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Absolutely not on the rush.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
So absolutely if you'd like one and a half points
for that, yeah, I will give you one and a
half points for that, and you won't have a three pointer.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But what I'll do instead is I will let's say this,
he accounts for five touchdowns. You don't even have him
scoring five touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
No, I don't have him scoring five touchdowns. And I
am going to I put both of our score predictions
in the duck already, and I don't believe either of
us actually have Ohio State scoring five touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
So is that worth three points?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Because he's thrown for four touchdowns in what one game
this year? Is I look quickly, I think yes, two
and one was against Grambling State, so okay, and the
other was Penn State, So fine, he's never he's never
done it. We know that.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
How what he throws for five touchdowns, so that we're we're.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Now you're an anti rush, you're against the rush. That
would be saying I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I'm trying to make sure it's really worth three points, Tony.
That's all. I have had multiple accounts for five touchdowns
games where I think that was my two pointer, which
is fine. I'm perfectly and you know I get it.
I'm I think, I absolutely feel this is bold. I
just three points as a standard, Tony, and then we
have to uphold the stand, do we.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I'm just I'm just.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Head State Bold Prediction Show, and we don't. You don't
want that.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Throws for five touchdowns? You know what, I'll go ahead
and take that, and.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You know what again, Spirit of the Holidays, throws or
catches a total of five, I will give you.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I will even give.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You three and a half.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
If he catches he gets a Oh so you'd like
me to give you more and also give you more points? No?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
No, no, all right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Throws throws or receives catches five touchdowns. So if he
catches five, I don't want a credit for just one.
I get credit for all.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Of those throws are catches. But but no more than
two receptions. Okay, that's it. You only get credit for
the first two touchdowns receiving.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Okay, all right, only only credit for the first two
touchdown exceptions because this is also an opportunity for him,
for Ryan Day and Brian Hartline to you know, maybe
go win a Heisman for your university. So only credit
for the first for two touchdown receptions. Boy, that that
(36:10):
third touchdown reception is gonna sting for short. All right, Tom,
what's your bonus?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Golly, feels like I should have planned this out a
little bit. Let's see. How about Ohio State has.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
At least two players with a reception of.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Six yards or long.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Two players? Two players? Okay, with the reception, all right,
I will accept that mine is similar. My bonus for you.
Bo Jackson or his approximation in the depth chart has
a rushing at least five yards, So it doesn't necessarily
have to be Bo Jackson, could be any type of
running back or perhaps even a receiver a rush of
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five yards to you, good sir.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I graciously accept.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
As always, as with everything on the show, I do
it graciously.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I'm going to cut that out of the show entirely, So, boy,
there we are your bold predictions for the Big Ten
Championship game. Ohio State Indiana one versus two. Heisman on
the line, number one seed on the line, Rose Bowl
on the line. Kind of shame at the Rose Bowl
on the line. It is time for war and we
(37:30):
have just both been done battle. I think we all
know who we all want to see win. But that's
you know what we're gonna leave in the comments now.
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Speaker 3 (38:14):
Hmm
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom, how's it.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Going, Tony.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Back in the day at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center,
Urban Meyer used to play It's time for War the
whole week, just unrepeat won the.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Whole week of the Michigan game.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
And that is a tradition that went away after Urban
handed the reins over to Ryan Day. This though, Tony,
the Bold Prediction Show for the Big Ten Championship Game.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I don't know that we've ever done one of these before.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I don't think we were doing one of these in
twenty twenty. And Tony, we know what's on the line
here the cot of Shame for the extended college football
Quarterfinal Bold Trip Tony, So, Tony, You'll never guess which
song I've been listening to on repeat all week knowing
(00:57):
that this is coming.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Can I sing it the way that our buddy Steve
hall Wagen sings it? Which is It's time for or
which is a terrible rendition both by me and by
Steve and by anybody else who would choose to sing that.
But yes, everybody, Welcome to the Bold Prediction Show. Now, Tom,
there's some controversy as to who won last week? Do
you have you have? You have you dialed up and
(01:22):
tallied everything up.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No, the last time we had a conversation about it,
I was comfortably ahead. So what kind of lies are
you or our listeners spinning that would make that not
the case?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You stay comfortably ahead. I think you only got two
of yours correct, or only one of them correct? Right, Like.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I had a brand and touchdown, and you had Carnel
Tate and Jeremiah Smith combining for at least two touchdowns,
So you get two correct, uh huh for two and
a half points.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, go on.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Two correct because I also got I also got at
least two correct here. So Carnel Tate scores a touchdown
outside of the eleven date minute mark of the second quarter.
I had Julian sand with two touchdowns outside of the
red zone. Could not be thirty four yards they were
not one was thirty five.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And then also I had a two pointer. Michigan has
held to one hundred and eight yards rushing or fewer,
which would have been their lowest total of the year.
I think you threw on there, like it must be
below three point five one yards per carry, So I'm
going to give myself a half point for that, which
puts me at three points, you at two and a half.
(02:39):
And here we are.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Michigan ran for four point two yards per carry.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So it sounds Tony like, you know, well, while it
was quite an effort, it was not enough to win.
So congratulations to you for almost beating me and almost
getting to sleep on an actual grown up bed this
weekend in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I'm still confused as to how I allowed the one
the point five to half point for that, and I
know I think I'm the one that mentioned a half
point or something and then you latched onto it like, uh.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I would never be so presumptuous.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm happy to play by.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I'm just happy to play by the rules that you
would like to, you know, for out there.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So that's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's I'm driving in my car and I run over
a half point and you, like a vulture seeing carry
and dead dead carcass on the road, You're like, I
want that, I will take a half point.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And Tony, as we all know, you don't hit half points.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Only I do that, So would you like to begin, Oh.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
More than anything in the world, Tony.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
All right, so as as you.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Are defending champion, and please please call me the champ,
I'm gonna tell you that Fernando Mendoza, not once this
year and only once in the last two season, has
thrown multiple interceptions in a game, Tony. That is what
makes it so shocking that I'm going to correctly predict
that it will happen this week in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
How many times will you throw two interceptions?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
This feels like a question that's being set up for
you to pretend later that you're confused. So I'm going
to say he's going to throw two interceptions this weekend,
just once though, yes, but over the span of the
whole weekend. So if he listen, if he throws some
interceptions on the bus on the way from Bloomington, that counts.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Do you know what he normally does in Decembers as
a starting quarterback, because I'll tell.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You in Decembers what a meaningful sample size where I'm
sure we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, go on twenty twenty three against Texas Tech in
some sort of a ballgame, three interceptions and you're telling
me that two is bald. Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, I take it all back for Nando Mendoza literally
two years ago in a meaningless Bowl game for Cal
against Texas Tech, a thing that is going to have
so much to do with what happens this weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yes, all right, we will accept this with one caveat.
It cannot be Taiwan Malone.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I was actually going to throw out the same thing.
I'm only if it's Edward Houston I get one and
a half points. You have to say yes because it's
really stupid.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I know, and that's that's the unfortunate part that I
have to say yes, Kim Okay, I don't like that
this is now part of the rules of the game,
and especially if he gets both of these that's three points.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Well I wasn't going to say that, but if you
say that, then all right, that's fine. I would never
be so presumptuous. But you, if you, if you choose
to offer these, are gonna start getting a lot shorter friends,
because Tony's gonna recognize that the more he talks, the
worse off he is. So he's just gonna be like, yes, no, next,
that's gonna be it that's gonna be the end.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Of his conversation his contribution.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So, Tony, do you have another one for us? Would
you like to share your first one?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Edric Houston has two interceptions.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
A tremendous Hedge Yes, Gerdaman and associates Hedge funds.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That's smart.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I'll tell you what, if you'd.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Like that to be your three pointer, I will let
you have that big as your three pointer.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I was just gonna ask for one and a half now,
my first one point. And to be honest, I've only
got four right now, so I'm gonna have to work
out a fifth one at some point.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Perhaps I have a bunch of extras so we can.
I'm happy to share.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Here you go. This is one that you probably all
also have. Jeremiah Smith and Carnel will take do something
that they've done twice this year. They will both go
over one hundred yards receiving. They did it against Ohio,
they did it against Penn State. Have not done it.
Since this is a Indiana defense, one of the best
in the nation, I'm going to assume, and don't quote
(07:04):
me on this, but feel free to believe me that
Indiana has not allowed two receivers to go over one
hundred yards each this season.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, I'm glad that you have established that if something
has only happened against Ohio and Penn State in particular
this season, that that would be a bold thing to
predict to happen this weekend, because Tony, you'll never guess.
I have one is that exact set of parameters. So
I'm going to allow this one, even though it feels
like this is one that's fairly likely to happen. I'm
(07:35):
going to allow it because then it leaves you absolutely
powerless when I tell you, Tony, that there are going
to be three scores between the two teams in the
middle eight. So three scores between the two teams in
the final four minutes of the first half, the first
four minutes of the second half. And Tony, it's only
happened twice all season in Ohio State games. Would you
like to guess which two games had happened in?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, would not care. How many times has in the
enda done it?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I don't know, Tony. I was not going to go
through twenty four individual box scores. I felt like I
felt like I had proved my point with the with
the Ohio state side of things.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
As long as we've established we don't have to go
and look at the other team's box scores for any
reason because blah blah blah. So I like this three
scores between the middle eight, Tom, except there cannot be
a thirty four yard field goal at least if there's
two you can have one.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Boy, that would then be four scores in the middle eight,
which feels somewhat unlikely. Cannot be a thirty four yard
field goal. Can I retroactively go back and take away
one thirty four yard reception from one of the two
receivers if I name the receiver.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Pretty sure, finger out the checker. Now, if here was,
we can go back, But then it becomes a one
and a half point bold prediction.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
No, well then we'll We'll leave it as is. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That's the cost of doing business.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Talking to you, certainly is yes, all right, go on
with your second one.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Here's one Stephen Daily, Indiana defensive and has ten tackles
for loss over his last three games. I believe I'm
saying no more than a half a tackle for loss
for Daily in this game time.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And I'm just doing this off the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But I feel like it's been like twice all year
that he's had two or three times this year that
he's only had half a tackle or zero tackles for loss?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That is correct?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And I will remind you Ohio State has allowed at
least one tackle for loss and like every game this year.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
This is not the most This is not the most
bold prediction I've ever heard on this show. This is
not the most bold prediction I've heard on this show. Too.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The least bold prediction I've heard.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Can't be a seventeen yard loss?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
What can I put on this.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Cannot happen anything from the Any tackle for no gain
from the seventeen or thirty four yard line counts as
a tackle for loss.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, I don't care for that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I'm sure you don't.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That means i've That means I have struck the ball
well and down the center of the fairway, which, Tony,
I don't know how much you golf, but that's where
you want to be. It's not where I am a lot,
but that's where you want.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
To be About this. I'll change my number. No more
than one tackle for lost for Stephen Daily.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Wait, no, that's not no.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
No, Oh, that's not the right direction.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I like that you started to consider if for just
a split second, all right, tackles were lost between.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
This is my perpetual dilemma. Is he this dumb? Or
is he just pretending to be this dumb?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
And sometimes these shows stretch out because I really have
to think for a while.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'm gonna say I don't. I'm not gonna allow seventeen
to thirty four. I will say between the twenty yard
line and thirty yard line.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm not saying between. I'm saying
tackles for zero for no gain on the seventeen.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Or the thirty four.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That's fine, that I was not. I wasn't trying to
get a span. I'm looking for just those particular yard lines.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Okay, all right, we will allow that tackles for no
gain on the seventeen thirty four count as TFLs and
that's all right. Okay, go ahead, Tony.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Do you know what has not happened? Indiana and Ohio
State had been playing football all season long, all the
way back to August. Do you know what neither team
has done once this season in which their opponents have
only done once.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
All season.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Returned you hope to kickoff for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
No attempted an on side kick once for either team
and only once for the for an opponent, and that
was against Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
And I literally cannot remember when that happened in an
Ohio State game. However, Tony, it is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
One of these teams is going to attempt an on
side kick in a way that shows up in the
box score as an on side kick, because that is
a stat that they track in this game.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I don't like this one because one of the reasons
there hasn't necessarily been a kick against Ohio State is
there really hasn't been a reason. I assume maybe Texas
did it because they needed to get the ball back
in the final in it, I don't there's like two minutes,
so maybe they didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, but I was trying to think if it was
maybe Illinois maybe did that.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Because I can definitely see this because you do expect
it to be a situation where the game is close enough,
if you're scoring late, you're gonna you're gonna kick an
onside kick one way or the other. But if there's
only been one over there.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
For any team involved, in either team's games all season.
I will also give you, Tony, the kickoff cannot come
from the seventeen or thirty four yard line. If that
helps you in it?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
What's that? What's that shows you on side kicks?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Just care if you search, if you go to Indiana's
official website or Ohio State's official website and you click
on team stats, it's somewhere down near the bottom.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Okay, all right, it feels like Oregon would have right,
but I mean they could have done it in the
second quarter with Dan Lane they have.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yes, it helps this year for Ohio State as Maryland
wasn't on the schedule. So that's one thing that sort
of helps Ohio State not have one.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Can I say, but it can't be in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
No, you sure can't. But thank you, unless you want
to make.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
This a bonus two and a half pointer.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
No, I don't want to make any more things ever. Again,
all right, I don't like this one because again, it
should just lead. This should happen late in the game.
But we'll see if it's that close, and frankly I
don't think it will be. But even then, if Indiana
is down seventeen points and they score, or if they're
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down twenty four points and they score with thirty seconds
to go against the second teamers, they're kicking an outside kick,
So there's almost no way this doesn't happen, which is
I really hate to do this to the show and
to the history of the show, to the people that
listen and watch it. When it's like ever, ability isn't boldness,
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that's just this is just me giving up and wanting
to go to the next one. So we'll go ahead
and allow it. The people won't. The people will forgive me, Tom,
they won't forgive you. So let's go. Let's go back
to being bold. Ohio State will have a touchdown run
of at least thirty four yards in this game. As
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you know, when they do have some long ish runs,
they basically get tackled before the end zone. I don't
even know the last time it probably would have been
James Peoples from was that thirty or so a couple
of weeks ago. I know it was maybe fifty. But
I'm going to say Ohio State has a touchdown run
of at least thirty four yards, of which maybe do
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they have more than one?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
This year they have eight of eight rushes of thirty
yards or more. I don't know how many of them
went for touchdowns. I'm just looking to see how many
Indiana has given up this year, like four has given up.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
For the fact that you're the fact that you're mentioning
this is a touchdown, I think, yes, probably.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
You know, if this was if this was just a
run of thirty four, I don't think I view it
as bold.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The fact that it's a the fact that it's a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I mean, bo Jackson has had it feels like most
of his long ones he's ended up getting brought down
inside the five for some reason, and they've scored.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
A lot on runs from inside the five. So I
am actually going to allow this.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I think this is a I think this is a
good one, and it's certainly when you could absolutely see happen.
But is you know, it's something also that just hasn't
happened a lot this season. So I think it does feel,
you know, sufficiently bold, at least you know, by your standards.
All right, Tony, how about this one? And boy, I
think this one, this is one you may end up
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deciding later I want this TV or two pointer.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But here's here's one.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
This season, Julian Saying thirty touchdowns, five interceptions, Fernando Mendoza
thirty two touchdowns, five interceptions, virtually identical stats.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Julian Saying is.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Going to be plus two in touchdowns and throw fewer
interceptions than Fernando Mendoza on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Tell me which you think is bolder, because I also
have a Julian Saying versus Mendoza one. So you're saying
Saying has two plus touchdowns and has to have fewer interceptions.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Right, Yes, So if Mendoza throws one touchdown, Saying has
to throw at least three, and then Mendoza has to
throw at least one interception and say it has none
or Mendoza throws two insane has one or none?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yes, here here's I think this is okay based on
the fact that two very good offenses to very good
defenses this time would win the Heisman. Then for Julian saying,
do you think is that? Is this why you're not
allowing me to say, I don't think it's bold enough
because this is something for the people. This is a
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fan service that you're throwing out there, which is just
tasteless and tacky. But I think this would win the
Heisman then, provided it's not two interceptions, two touchdowns and
one or three interceptions for Julian Saying versus the four
interceptions of Bernanda Mendoza with no touchdowns. But I will
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allow this, But can I throw a button there?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
You seem like you were sort of keying up the
fact that you had something similar, So I kind of
would like to hear your similar one.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And I am also thinking and then I may might
draw it back. I think Mendoza should have to have
a touchdown pass, but then having say and throw three
is that's also kind of a tall order. So I'm
just gonna let you have this one, and then I
will say my one. Now that we're being all friendly,
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I have a Juliet Saying outpasses Mendoza by seventy five yards.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Seventy five yards.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
See, this is one where, depending on the game, like mine,
feels like you're predicting a very specific game state if
that happens yours.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Is does this have to be done within the first
three quarters? Probably?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, maybe or in the fourth quarter? Yeah no.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I Well, now I'm trying to decide if the first
three quarters would make it more likely or less likely
to happen because it's you know.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
In the scenario where.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Hmm, yeah, in the scenario where this has happened through
three quarters, Ohio State is shutting it down and Mendoza
is presumably still throwing in the fourth quarter unless.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
They pull him.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But if they pull him, then they would pull stay in.
So I would love to put some kind of a
caveat on this in some form.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
If you throw it, if you confine it to the
three quarters, I'm gonna have to ask for one and
a half points.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
No, No, I'm not gonna do that. I'm trying to
decide if there's a.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I don't think there is.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Double.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Okay, So thirty four plus seventeen we've established on this show,
long established in this in the lore of this show,
that thirty four plus seventeen is fifty one. So a
fifty one yard pass for Julian saying does not count.
Other than that, totally fine. Exactly fifty one yard fifty two,
that's fine. If it's fifty, that's fine, But exactly fifty
one yards does not count.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I don't care for that one. Boy, Okay, how.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Do you then, why don't you boldly predict Julian saying
to have a pass of exactly fifty one yards and
I'll get one.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's at least three points. Frankly, okay, a pass of
I'll even do this. A pass or run of fifty
one yards does not.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Count, well, considering this is just a passing one, very
generous of.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
You, okay, But a run of fifty one yards does count, then, Tom,
if you want to be so dismissive and cocky about it,
If and then also runs for a fifty one yarder,
then that fifty one yarder counts.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
But if Mandoza runs for fifty one yards, that counts
for him.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
No, I can't do that. No, I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
As hard say, if Tony, if Julian Saying has a
fifty one yard run in this game, I will give
you three points just for that special bonus. Three points
from me to you. Merry Christmas, thank you very much.
All right, go ahead, Okay, So I have four now.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You also said you have four, So I'm gonna give you.
I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I No, I'm I've got mine now, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
You've got your fifth one? Okay, yep, Well, in that case,
I'm going to say that Indiana seven for fifteen on
fourth down attempts this season, so basically one attempt per game.
I'm gonna say they have at least three attempts on
fourth down in this game. Churtzignetti not particularly likely to
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go four on fourth down as far as as coaches.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
So you're gonna say at least three times they've done that.
Once it was against Iowa, they were zero for three.
They've not done it in multiple games since the UCLA.
There are multiple times in a game since UCLA. So
all right, three times going forward on fourth down. Okay, again,
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this is all if Ohio State is winning comfortably, I
think you're going to score well in this one, just
so you know, with the on side kick and the
saying two touchdowns and.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
The Tony espally so like then the viewers would have
two reasons to be happy. So there you go again,
audience service. We're here to make people happy, and we
know who everyone's rooting for.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And I don't just mean Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
At least I've got the Taiwan Malone interception in my
back pocket. Okay, my fourth one, my fifth one is
something that has happened twice this year sort of, and
we've established that something that has only happened twice is
bold enough for one point, as.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Long as it only happened against Ohio and Penn State.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yes, go on, can yat To Jackson and Kayden Curry
will combine for three impact plays. Now, Tom, you're gonna
say that doesn't seem like a lot. And one of
the times that happened was because Kayden Curry had five
tackles for loss.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That was Yeah, that was at Washington. Yes, ken YadA,
did it happen against Michigan because it felt like Kenyada
Jackson maybe basically did that last week.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Ken YadA had two tackles for loss last week, and
Cayden Curry did not believe do anything of note other
than his tackles. And I can look that up real
quickly just to confirm, But.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, you might.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You're probably right. I probably have the Michigan box for
here somewhere.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah. No, no tackles for loss for Cayden Curry, no
pass blocks, no forced fumbles. So yeah, it's it sounds
like a low number, Tom, maybe to some.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But the fact that what was the other game it
happened in other than Washington because Washington was in the
free space and the Bengo card because that was jack
Cayden Curry game.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Penn State, may check Rutgers or Pence State. Let me
check here quick, Penn State, ken YadA Jackson had two
and a half tackles for loss. Okay, and I believe
that there was any outside of passbox. So both times
it's been done, it's the one guy doing it.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
One guy.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, So this is something that is never really yea.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
And so if you had picked one of these guys
to have two and a half impact plays, that might
have been you know, I would have at least sort
of maybe entertained that as a two point two pointer
if you picked one specific guy to do it. So therefore,
if you're splitting it between two guys and it really
only has happened twice, then I'm probably stuck saying yes.
(25:32):
So all right, we'll say yes and we'll move on
with life. Tony, we have established. I went back and looked,
we established just a few weeks ago. I believe it
was the UCLA game that this exact bold prediction is
worth two points. So, Tony, when I tell you that
for the first time since the Year of Our Lord
twenty nineteen, Ohio State kicks a field goal of fifty
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plus yards. You are obligated to say yes, So go ahead,
say yes, and we'll move on.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
With the show.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That was actually Rutgers, which has no bearing. You say, UCLA,
you're lying to the people, You're already misleading are and
you're throwing half truths out there, trying to pull a
fast one on everybody.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
But sorry, during one during one of the games, during
the three week series of interchangeable slop between Penn State
and Michigan, I did.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Make that prediction for two points and you accepted it, So.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Moving it. I'm moving on, moving on. I was also
thinking about that one. I was like, no, that's Tom's baby. Well,
we'll let him keep trying that one. But just so
you know, the time I do pick it, it's going
to hit.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yes, that that is absolutely the new two twenty two,
twenty one hundred percent, Like I can. I am already
pre annoyed at the fact that you're going to pick
that in you know, the peach Bowl or something, and
it's going to happen, and I'm going to be deeply annoyed.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Here's my two pointer. Caleb Downs has a second half interception.
We know one point is you calling for an interception
for a player is always good for one point, I'm
taking half the game away from him adding another point
in there. So a second half interception for Caleb Downs
in this game. I don't think we've ever done this
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one before. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
No, that's a new one. In honor of his jersey
number two. May I remove a two minute span from
the second half, or may I remove two separate yard
lines from which that play cannot happen? Your choice?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Tell me the two minute span first.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, go to need
a decision from you, and then I'm happy to honor
your wishes, Tony.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Then I'll say no, no no is not an option.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
No which you said, Tony, it is time to say
yes to the dress.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Let's go. Which one is it?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Why do I need to have a caveat for this one?
Just tell me that because I tell the people ge whiz, Tony.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
The people want you to do something bold and I'm
trying to make that happen for you.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
All right, So what was your your yardage line? What
are you saying?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I will either the the yardage the yard line on
the statu sheet from which the ball is snapped. You
can pick two numbers which I will pick two numbers
from which it does not count. I bet you can
guess what the numbers are. Or a two minute span
of the second.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Now you can pick two yardage lines that this can't
happen from Tony.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
You're not gonna believe it. Seventeen and thirty four.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Now, is this where the ball is snapped or the
ball is caught?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Where the ball is snapped, because that's going to be
that be very clear and easy on the statuet.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Okay, now, technically, Tom, that is four yardage markers.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Tony, I gotta tell you to be real honest, I
was hoping you wouldn't notice, but it sure is.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Thank you for thank you for mentioning that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And because of your condescension throughout this entire show. If
you do want just two yardage markers, you can have
the seventeen or the thirty four.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I think I'm going to take the Indiana thirty four
on the Indiana side of the field and the Ohio
State seventeen.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Oh wow, Okay, interesting, You're covering as wide a path
as you can essentially almost, So Okay, we will, Boy,
this would be devastating, absolutely devastating.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Good Now you see what I'm going for. Perfect, Glad, Glad,
We're on the same page, all right, my three pointer, Tony. Yes,
Indiana has not allowed a pass play of sixty plus
yards all season long. Ohio State has only won the
pass play of sixty yards or more and that came
against Grambling. That was a long touchdown for Jeremiah Smith
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against Grambling. So Ohio State has not had a pass
of sixty yards or more against FBS competition all season long.
Indian has not allowed one. That is why, Tony for
three points, I'm going to correctly predict that Ohio State
has not one, but two pass plays of sixty plus
yards on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
M That's Tom, that may be.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
The boldest one of your one of.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Your boulder picks. Two sixty yard receptions exactly for Ohio States. Yeah,
I mean I can't. I can't say no to that one.
Has you say it's happened once for Ohio State. Has
not happened at all for Indiana, So we will allow that.
(30:52):
That's that's a pretty good one, Tom, who who just
take a couple of random guesses, like who would you
think would be the most likely players to do that?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well, Tony, I certainly won't be putting any parameters on
this othough than you know, beyond what I've already said.
But you know, I think I can think of two
Ohio state wide receivers where if I named two names,
I would say, if it's going to happen, it's probably
going to be one of those two guys, or perhaps
one from each of those guys.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I would like to throw like something on there, like
it has to it can't be from.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
But it's like, okay, can't be David Adolf.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
That's fine, I'll give you that.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
One, all right, I'll do that one. Now we've established.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Which will be more devastating, the seventy five yard David
Adolph touchdown or the Caleb Downs interception on a play
from the Ohio State seventeen?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Which one will have Ohio State bands.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Going crazy and you or I just screaming in anger
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I think, well, I mean the three porter clearly would
be just amazing. Now you've chosen something that has happened,
I'm going to choose something that has never happened and
that is Julian Sayan scores a touchdown, just could be
a rush, could be a catch.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Okay, So I had my other three pointer that I
have here is Julian Sayan has a receiving touchdown. That
would be a legitimate three pointer.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
And I do think.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
That's a real possibility that they're running some Philly special,
you know, get get get him one in the fourth quarter.
I would I would view that one as one hundred percent.
Julian sand has a rushing touchdown is not That's not
a three pointer.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
That's that's like what I'm going at.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Well, I think if have you seen him sneak the ball? Tom,
have you seen it?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I'm sure yeah, he came about that far away from
that happening last Saturday.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
That is absolutely not a three porter.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
If you want to do a receiving touchdown, I would
be one hundred percent fine.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
With that, And I would even about if you feel that's.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Super unlikely to happen, I would be perfectly happy to
give you my three pointer and take that one, because
I feel like that's less bold than mine.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I will say, a touchdown of at least seven yards.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Receiving.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Wow, all right, I wasn't gonna put that.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
He's never done rushing or receiving. You're throwing something out
there that we've seen happen. I'm throwing something out there
that we've never tom not since the poor boy was
in high school. So so you're just going to go
to the Jim Arbaugh.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
He was.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
He was that far away from from doing it last week.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Absolutely not on the rush.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
So absolutely if you'd like one and a half points
for that, yeah, I will give you one and a
half points for that, and you won't have a three pointer.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But what I'll do instead is I will let's say this,
he accounts for five touchdowns. You don't even have him
scoring five touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
No, I don't have him scoring five touchdowns. And I
am going to I put both of our score predictions
in the duck already, and I don't believe either of
us actually have Ohio State scoring five touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
So is that worth three points?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Because he's thrown for four touchdowns in what one game
this year? Is I look quickly, I think yes, two
and one was against Grambling State, so okay, and the
other was Penn State, So fine, he's never he's never
done it. We know that.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
How what he throws for five touchdowns, so that we're we're.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Now you're an anti rush, you're against the rush. That
would be saying I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I'm trying to make sure it's really worth three points, Tony.
That's all. I have had multiple accounts for five touchdowns
games where I think that was my two pointer, which
is fine. I'm perfectly and you know I get it.
I'm I think, I absolutely feel this is bold. I
just three points as a standard, Tony, and then we
have to uphold the stand, do we.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I'm just I'm just.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Head State Bold Prediction Show, and we don't. You don't
want that.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Throws for five touchdowns? You know what, I'll go ahead
and take that, and.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You know what again, Spirit of the Holidays, throws or
catches a total of five, I will give you.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I will even give.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You three and a half.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
If he catches he gets a Oh so you'd like
me to give you more and also give you more points? No?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
No, no, all right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Throws throws or receives catches five touchdowns. So if he
catches five, I don't want a credit for just one.
I get credit for all.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Of those throws are catches. But but no more than
two receptions. Okay, that's it. You only get credit for
the first two touchdowns receiving.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Okay, all right, only only credit for the first two
touchdown exceptions because this is also an opportunity for him,
for Ryan Day and Brian Hartline to you know, maybe
go win a Heisman for your university. So only credit
for the first for two touchdown receptions. Boy, that that
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third touchdown reception is gonna sting for short. All right, Tom,
what's your bonus?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Golly, feels like I should have planned this out a
little bit. Let's see. How about Ohio State has.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
At least two players with a reception of.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Six yards or long.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Two players? Two players? Okay, with the reception, all right,
I will accept that mine is similar. My bonus for you.
Bo Jackson or his approximation in the depth chart has
a rushing at least five yards, So it doesn't necessarily
have to be Bo Jackson, could be any type of
running back or perhaps even a receiver a rush of
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five yards to you, good sir.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I graciously accept.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
As always, as with everything on the show, I do
it graciously.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I'm going to cut that out of the show entirely, So, boy,
there we are your bold predictions for the Big Ten
Championship game. Ohio State Indiana one versus two. Heisman on
the line, number one seed on the line, Rose Bowl
on the line. Kind of shame at the Rose Bowl
on the line. It is time for war and we
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have just both been done battle. I think we all
know who we all want to see win. But that's
you know what we're gonna leave in the comments now.
Don't Tom hates the comments when he sees it, but
that will do it for me. Here if you want
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