BONUS: Buckeye Huddle Primetime - Taking Michigan To Task

This is Monday night's episode of Buckeye Huddle Primetime hosted by Juck Miletti. Juck recaps the win over Michigan, basks in the victory, but also takes Michigan to task for their many shenanigans before, during, and after the game. You can subscribe to this show and have it downloaded after every episode Monday and Wednesday evening by searching "Buckeye Huddle Primetime." You can also watch the show live every Monday and Wednesday night at 8:00 pm at YouTube.com/BuckeyeHuddle

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, Tony Gerdaman here you get an episode of
Bucket Huddle Primetime with Chuck. This is from Monday, and
it's a little bit of a basking following the Michigan
win and also taking the Wolverines to task for some
of their shenanigans before, during, and after the game. Dutch

(00:20):
guys might want to give it a listen. You can
subscribe to this show. Just search Bucke Huddle Primetime and
you should be able to find it. It's also available
on YouTube as well. YouTube dot com slash bucke Huddle anyway,
give it a listen.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Thanks. Hey, it's Chuck. We are not bemoaning the noonkickoff.
We're now owning it. It's a badge of honor. We're
the lunatic fringe that defines our coaches legacy when it
comes to this game. They don't get to define that
outside the family who we're cut from a different cloth. Bro, Hiowans,
he's got it all, man. He's even got the jaw.
You know the jaw. You see that jaw and you're
just like, yeah, man, that's a that's a dude. Do

(00:55):
I want Michigan to beat Oklahoma? No way In hell,
I don't know what world I'm living in. This is
insane to me. And if you saw my outburst, I
apologize it. It's showtime now in showtime and welcome to
Buckey Huddle Prime Time. Appreciate you so much for joining
us here at Buckeye Huddle, as we are here every

(01:17):
Monday and Wednesday at eight pm, live as always. And
this is also a call in show. If you want
to call in and hit up the show. We'll take
some phone calls, probably around eight thirty five is eight
forty ish. If anybody wants to call in, all you
got to do is click the link in the description
of the video and you'll be able to watch the
show from the green room. It's called the green Room.

(01:38):
Fancy stuff here. As we are here at Bucke Huddle,
we're fancy and we are still in full celebration mode
and we can do that. We can keep on celebrating,
but the HOIH State team cannot. It's there right back
at it. Man. Another huge game and we will obviously
get big in on the Indiana game, probably not till Wednesday, though,

(01:59):
because we've been waiting a long time for this. So
I'd like to savor it again. It is only Monday,
after all, we're gonna enjoy it. On this Monday, we're
gonna be reflecting on what this win means and the
era that we're currently living in as Ohio State football supporters.
And of course, signing Day, as you know, is this Wednesday.
Maybe you didn't know, maybe you've been caught up in

(02:19):
the wind, but it is Wednesday when we are gonna
see this class of twenty twenty six come together. We're
gonna probably wait to hit on that till tomorrow Morning's
chuck on Bucks as there's a lot of rumors flying around.
So if you want to talk some recruiting, that'll be
tomorrow morning. Unless you got some questions you want to ask,
we can we can get to some questions in the
comments section regarding recruiting in that class, A class that

(02:41):
has rebounded tremendously in the last forty five days after
sitting ninth in the country post summer. Usually they add
an extra three guys after this summer. This year, you've
got an extra eleven. Now, probably gonna lose some, but
you might get some coming back in from now till Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
But again, those are things we'll talk about tomorrow. Today

(03:03):
we start with Saturday, and I want to start with
some of the non football things that went on around
this game. I don't know if you guys watched the
Iron Bowl or regularly watch the Iron Bowl or Red River.
Red River a little different because it's at a neutral site,
which kind of changes the dynamics, but the Iron Bowl
widely regarded maybe as the second best rivalry in college football.

(03:27):
You know what I don't expect when I tune into
either of those games going in. I don't expect to
see six personal fouls, Referees getting headbutted, players getting headbutted
in t bag cheap shots all day, instigating fights all day,
guarding the logo at midfield with mobile equipment, chests, planning

(03:48):
an ambush in the tunnel, players shoulder checking, coaches, communications
being sabotaged. I don't expect any of that stuff in
any other game. But this game is the dirtiest, most
despicable game in college football every year, and it almost
feels like the players on that team try to outdo

(04:10):
themselves each year, like, what can we do this year
to one up how big of jerks we were last year?
And they did it all game long. This one was
maybe worse than ever, and our guys weren't perfect. But
if I was a Michigan fan, Ryan Day says, you
know you want to win with humility, We're gonna win
with humility. I'm probably gonna point and say, well, that's

(04:32):
a little hypocritical. When you got igb running down the
field after a pick with his helmet off, all right,
maybe that's a little hypocritical. Maybe you could say Ryan
Day was a little passive aggressive, acting like he was
taking the high road in the press conference, but really
kind of saying everything he needed to say by how
he said it. Or maybe Phil Daniels was a little

(04:54):
overboard when he t bagged that guy. I get it.
Those are a couple of maybe fair things, but when
you stay the extra that went on in this game,
it is so lapsided, and they just conducted themselves in
a fashion that was so embarrassing. Man, the whole thing
was just a spectacle. I mean, there's nothing like it

(05:14):
in American sport. And it is a despicable game, and
I love every minute of it. But it's almost like
the hate has become a spectacle on its own, where
even non football fans tune into that game because they
want to see what will happen next, And you know,
it's an amazing spectacle when the sec hawks are talking
about it all day long, and they were. And a

(05:34):
perfect example of what a spectacle this game has become
is when a big football game ends, what do we see?
We see the celebration, The sideline reporter interviews the coach,
maybe the quarterback. They cut to the booth and say
goodbye and or out of there. How many times do
you watch a football game where, fifteen minutes after the

(05:56):
game is over, the camera with nobody talking, no commentary,
is just trained on the field, waiting to see what
happens next, without a field storming where we're just talking,
like just looking at the players meandering about the field.
We don't ever see that, man, the network's already cut
and gone on to the next thing. But this game,

(06:16):
ten minutes fifteen minutes after, the cameras are still just
showing us the field because everybody's waiting to see what's
gonna happen next. And it's pretty amazing, it really is. Man.
And of course this year nothing happened like last year. Obviously,
last year they caught the whole BRA. We got to
see the BRA live with commentary from Gus and Joel.

(06:37):
And because of that, because of just how out of
control it was last year, I assumed that we wouldn't
see anything remotely close to that this year. I thought
that this year there would be huge measures of security
to make sure that something like that didn't happen again.
I thought, obviously, at Michigan Stadium, you've got a shared tunnel,

(06:58):
which is unique to that stadium. It's a small tunnel
for everything that needs to go, you know, for football
teams and equipment and everything. It's not a good setup.
And I thought that what we would see were probably
some cops at the end, separating the two teams and
ushering them one at a time through the tunnel. We'd
see any of that, Man, I would assume that if

(07:19):
nothing else, the coaches would ensure that their players didn't
pull any kind of nonsense. But it's clear that the
Michigan staff condones the kind of behavior that their players
put on. That's clear. And it's no surprise. I've talked
about this team before all this year. Man, how trashy
this Michigan team conducts themselves. When a player is running
the ball and he goes out of bounds on the

(07:40):
Michigan sideline, you'll just see the dudes that are swiping
at the ball like guys that are not playing, just
out of bounds standing there. They're just disrespectful, man, They're
totally disrespectful to everybody. And this kind of stuff comes
from the top. It comes from the top down. It
is ingrained in their culture. You literally got a staff
where staff members were walking up to the guy in

(08:00):
the stands and the guy slapped him. Like we saw
that that happened under Sharon Moore's watch. When the literal
head coach of the football team is shooting an arrow
like he's a twenty year old that just scored his
first touchdown after a win, Like that's the guy leading
the organization. And when you got that guy on top,
this is what you get out of your dudes on
Saturday in a rivalry game. That kind of leadership sends

(08:22):
the message to a freshman from Texas who's never even
suited up in the game, then it is acceptable behavior
to walk down the tunnel and shoulder check a coach
on the opposed Are you kidding me? You see all
the room to the right of that kid, But he
wants to shoulder check a coach on the opposing team.

(08:45):
You know, as much as they hate urban Meyer, and
boy do they hate urban Meyer. Urban Meyer would absolutely
be rate that kid in front of everybody. If that
was an Ohio State player and he shoulder checked a
coach on Michigan's team, It's it's just no discipline, It's
totally unacceptable. You got the guy getting up right off
the rip after Bo busts off a twenty three yard

(09:07):
catch and run. Congratulations, kid, you made a good hit.
He just gained twenty three yards and you get up
john at him. You didn't do anything. The refs should
have set the tone early, and they didn't. Without a doubt,
we should have saw an ejection for Jayshawn Barham for
something that I have never seen in all my years
of watching and participating in football. A player put their

(09:29):
hands on the referee jayshar Barnham, who look, he didn't
try to hurt him, but he gently, gently did a
head butt motion and put his helmet to the dude's nose.
You can't squish the referees nose. He didn't make him bleed.
Probably didn't hurt him, but as you can see by
the picture, he smushed his nose. And you can't be

(09:50):
out here smushing noses. Now, if you were the coach
and your player did something like that, and you were
in the press conference after the game and somebody asked
you about what do you think you would say in
that instance, I can tell you what I think I
would say. I would probably say totally unacceptable. I apologize
to those referees and those officials on behalf of our team.

(10:11):
I had Jayshawn apologize to that official before we left
and thank him for not ejecting us and letting cooler
heads prevail. That's what I think I would say. That's
not what that blue dope said. Here's what he had
to say in the press conference after the game.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I mean the Jay Shawn of official grabbed him and
he reacted. You know, he should have reacted, but the
official grabbed him two hands.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
But that was grabbed him, grabbed them with two hands.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I smith, you know, fumble or catch. They thought it
was fumble. They said that he had the control of it.
Didn't look like he had control of it. But at
the end of the day, it's not my decision on
what the official says. So they told me that it
was inconclusive and that that well that he that it
had made the catching the calls whom upheld.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
So he spent twice as much time talking about a
total inconsequential touchdown call then his player headbutting and official.
By the way, so did Tom Brady. Tom Brady was
at the game. You probably saw him with his stupid
hat on. Tom Brady released a little thing on Instagram
or Twitter or something about how great it was to
be Matt back at Michigan and sometimes things don't go

(11:26):
your way parentheses. I still maintain that was a touchback,
as if that was some game defining call, right. The
game was contingent on that call with Jeremiah, whether that
was a touchdown or a touchback. They're all the same.
They're all the same, even when they're a hundred times
over millionaires. Somebody told me in my comments the other

(11:48):
day when I was saying something about a particular fan base,
that all fan bases are the same. I think that
is an absolute insane take. Man. In college football, I
think fan base is all have their own personalities because
they live in a bubble and they have certain experiences
as a fan base, through the success levels of their team,
through things that happened to them, and they live in

(12:10):
this little bubble. They live in a little echo chamber,
and it shapes how they act and their sensibilities and
where they're at, you know, where they live in the country. Like,
they all got a personality. It's one of the things
I love about college football. In interacting with different fan bases,
you can pick up on things that are consistent throughout them.
If the Michigan fan base were a good looking woman,

(12:32):
they'd be ugly because their personality sucks. Man, they suck.
Everything about them sucks. Be a man, Tom Brady, own
your loss. You got to own that, man. You cannot
fix a problem until you recognize and acknowledge there's a problem.
And the truth is they got a soft team. They
got a soft team. They have loved Collin Ohio State

(12:52):
Saw for the last four years. It's been the first
thing they've gone to every time that team up there
is Saw. They got bullied, but they sure did act
tough man everything outside of the actual football they act
really really tough. And the Buckeyes they were tough. Between
the whistles. They were tough between the whistles and when

(13:14):
the snows started falling, which they wished for all week.
They talked about the weather all week and that dang,
it's not going to come till after the game the
forecast to say, well, now it's saying it might be here.
In the third quarter, they were hoping so hard that
that snow came. And the snow came, and it took
the air out of the ball. For the Buckeyes, what
do they do? They went on a twenty play, eighty

(13:38):
seven yard drive that took off twelve minutes in forty
seven seconds. It was the most dominant drive I've ever
seen in the game. I mean, they couldn't stop them,
and it was just paper cut after paper cut after
paper cut twelve minutes. Are you kidding me? An entire
quarter of the game in one drive. Now it ended

(14:00):
in a field goal. Ryan Day didn't like that at all.
I thought it was kind of funny. I thought it
was kind of funny that it ended in a field goal.
But Ryan Day after the game, man, it was clear
that despite playing how they've played all year, which is, look,
we don't care about style points, He said, this game
was played indoors, that scoreboard probably would have looked a
lot different, and it would have and he would have

(14:22):
liked that because this game he wants those style points.
You know, they got a feed on young quarterback who
threw an interception to the wrong guy. Saturday, the Saturday
before against Rutgers, IGB has an interception, I think it
was his first of the year. And as he's running
up into the stands ripping his helmet off to throw

(14:43):
the ball to somebody in the stands. We're all watching
the telecast knowing this is coming back right there's a
flag on the field. Edric Houston had a penalty. It
wiped it out, and I'm kind of feeling bad for
the guy, especially after he makes that kind of spectacle. Well,
you let IGB get another one. IGB gets another one
and rips his helmet off, runs down the middle of
the field in the snow, and you would think, in

(15:04):
a normal circumstance, the coach might be really mad at
him after that one. Do you think he got reprimanded
for that one? I doubt it. I don't know. I'd
like to know. I'd like to know if he got
a little a little talking to about that one, but
I doubt it. I doubt it. The situation might have
called for it, but it's always something. Man. If that
was something done on our field, I might be a

(15:25):
little upset about it if it was a player from
another team. But as we know, last year, the fight
started when they planted that flag for the second time.
That was the second time they did it. They did
it in twenty twenty two. And when they did it
in twenty twenty two, the Ohio State players got a
lot of flack about it. They got a lot of
flak from former players from fans because they did not

(15:46):
defend and not allow them to do that, and they
heard that noise. So when they went to do it
again in twenty twenty four, the attitude was, no, you're
not doing this again. We heard Jack Sawyer say that,
We heard the pain in his voice, and it sucked. Man,
it sucks seeing that. And we saw the biggest brawl
we've ever seen in a football game. Just another story

(16:08):
etched in the rivalry history. And that brawl and that
flag planting led to so much talk throughout the entire
offseason last year, even at that stupid lawmaker in Toledo
attempting to make it a crime, which was just embarrassing.
And the Michigan folks as recently as Friday, I was
on this very channel on a live show with Kevin

(16:29):
and this guy chimes in. Basically their argument has been
this whole time. Look, if you win the game, it's
your right to plant the flag. And they keep going
back to this Texas game. Texas beat Michigan to start
off the twenty twenty four season, Texas planted their flag
and Michigan didn't do anything about it. And the reason
they didn't is because they got whipped so bad and

(16:49):
we're getting booed by their fans that they ran into
the tunnel immediately and Texas was out there on the
field by themselves. That's why they didn't do anything about it.
Because you win the game doesn't give you the right
to disrespect me. That's not how it works unless I
allow you to disrespect me. And Ohio State didn't allow
it in twenty twenty four. So by these Michigan fans logic,

(17:10):
there was no reason for the Michigan players to be
standing guarding their fifty yard line, guarding their logo. You're
supposed to be allowed to do that, right, Well, They
obviously got their argument blown up when their own players
decided that they're going to stand on the logo and
guard the logo. They all converged on it. They even

(17:31):
rolled out equipment chests. Have you seen these pictures? They
rolled out equipment chests from the sidelines onto the logo,
which means what I mean. I think it means. It's
pretty clear that they talked about, when we lose this game,
we can't let them plant the flag, and they coordinated
a plan to guard the loco. Dude, can you imagine

(17:54):
going into that game if somebody were to bring up, listen,
if we lose the game, what are we talking about?
If we lose the game. I can't believe he even
brought that up. But if we do, we got to
make sure, like, why don't we let's roll out the
equipment chest. Yeah, let's do that. Unbelievable, man, unbelievable. Now
we talk about the flags that were a couple buck
guys who did grab a little flag here or there

(18:16):
and tried to walk to the middle of the field.
We got some recordings of some of them. We saw
IGB of course, was involved in one. He got stopped
and then we got a clip that I think we'll
live on for a long long time if Kayden McDonald
trying to do it and being stopped and Matt Patricia
stopping him and hugging him, and seeing Kayden immediately melt

(18:39):
into Matt Patricia, which has become a story onto itself.
Amazing the heat that Ryan Day took for the hire
of Matt Patricia to what he has done. Seven point
eight points per game is the fewest points allowed in
a regular season since nineteen ninety. It's the best defense
in Ohio State street, hands down. And that guy has

(19:03):
that effect on players like Caden McDonald in less than
a year that he's been here. It's an amazing story.
So much of this is just amazing story after an
amazing story. But the Buckeye staff had it under control.
And then Ryan Day went over to Searon Moore and said, look, man,
we're not going to be playing flags or anything, but
unless we want a problem, get your blue dopes off

(19:24):
the field. And Searn said, okay, sir, So if you
don't want to lose the game, you want to look.
Ohio State never brought a flag up there. They were
never going to plan a flag, and I think One
of the best pictures we got out of this game
was the Michigan players standing on the field and a

(19:46):
picture from behind them and the Buckeyes are just up
into the stands, sitting there enjoying it with their fans.
Really cool stuff. The Buckeyes were classy. Jermaine Matthews had
a belt. Jermaine had a belt, but Jermaine gets a pass.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Man.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Everybody knows that tons of Ohio State fans were up
there for that game, and I saw a couple of
Instagram clips of Michigan fans saying that it was the
most red they've ever seen in there, which is interesting
because we saw I don't know a lot of years
during that that seventeen year clip in the rich Rod
Brady Hoke era where there was a ton of red

(20:22):
in that stadium, but this year there was a lot. Man,
there was a whole lot. Yeah, m I'm with you.
Rom says. Sounded like Kmak was gonna cry, he was
so built up with emotions. It was an awesome, awesome scene.
In fact, I got it loaded. Let me see if
I got it. That's an amazing shot, an amazing shot.

(21:03):
Michigan's in trouble they're in trouble and they're in real
purgatory now because unlike rich Rod or Brady hoaf Man,
those dudes weren't out there winning ten games. Sharon Moore
wins his ballgame. This guy's got ten wins. Ten wins.
How do you fire a guy with ten wins? They're
not gonna Obviously, they jumped on me two years ago.
Well not two years ago. I haven't been around two years,

(21:24):
but almost two years when they hire Sharon Moore, I said,
this is a MAC level or maybe lower level Big
twelve coach on the open market. If his agent floated
him at the time and said I want to be
a head coach, those are the kind of interviews he
would have gotten MAC, lower level Big twelve and that's
what he would have commanded on the open market, And

(21:46):
instead he got the head coaching gig at a blue
blood at Michigan. They disagreed. They said, he's the offensive
coordinator of a national championship team. Well, the type of
offensive coordinator the it's the head coaching job at a
big time program is a dynamic offensive coordinator who's scores

(22:08):
a lot of points and is you know, he's an
inventive guy, and he's got a guy thought of as
a real offensive mind. For instance, will Stein. Just tonight
before I got on the air, will Stein, Oregon's offensive coordinator,
got the head coaching job at Kentucky. We're talking about
a guy widely regarded as one of the top three
offensive coordinators in college football who's never been a head coach,

(22:30):
and he got the Kentucky job. So what kind of
job does a guy who's running a stone age offense
like Sharon Moore was in twenty twenty four for Michigan,
what kind of head coaching job does he command on
the open market. It's evidently clear clearly not an SEC
job because will Stein just got one of the bottom four.

(22:52):
So probably not a big ten. It's a it's a
big twelve level job if that. And the way they
talked about what they were going to do with Sharon Moore,
as if Harbaugh didn't just walk out with all the
staff was things were just going to keep on rolling.
They said it all year last year, Well, we do
this and we do that, and we develop players. What

(23:12):
do you mean, man, you just had a coaching change.
This is an entirely different reality you're living in you
got a mac level head coach, lost all your best players,
and you're basically in a total rebuild with a rookie
head coach. And they thought it was just going to
keep rolling, and then the absolute worst thing happened. They
finished that season strong with a win against Ohio State

(23:33):
and then a win against Alabama, which turned out to
be calendar wise, their second win against Alabama in that
calendar year, which was fun to brag about, but it
also saddled them for this guy for probably some extra
time because now he's got a couple of really big wins.
And they got their fourth win against Ohio State in row.
And even though it was a disappointing season for them,

(23:56):
they saw improvement towards the end from Sharon Moore and
the former results on the field. Now they might come
back with a ten win season, and they are just
in a state of purgatory. Man, they're in a state
of purgatory with this guy. He don't got it. He
does not got it now, they insisted. He fired his
offensive coordinator after his first year, so he did got

(24:16):
a new offensive coordinator. A lot of good it did.
They get the quarterback who didn't want to be there
kid from Michigan who said he didn't want to be
there because they can't develop the position. You know, money
cured that issue for him. So he goes up there,
and the development of that kid has been dreadful. Dreadful.
I mean, you can't even blame it on him, Like

(24:38):
this guy's clearly had no kind of acceptable coaching for
a kid that talented. You look at his feet are
all over the place when he's throwing, different armslots different
arm angles for everything when it's unnecessary, rocket speed on everything.
He's got no touch, and it's clear they don't even
trust him. They threw five passes in the first half
man and he was three for five. And they went

(25:01):
on to win ten games. Ten games because they're talented.
They've got some talent. They're talented team, not as talented
as they have been, but they've got enough talent to
win ten games, which pretty amazing. I think they'll win
their ball game. They're pretty good. They'll probably be in
the Pop Tarts Bowl again, something like that. But for

(25:24):
year two of Bryce Underwood, I suspect they're gonna try
to get him a proper quarterback coach or something. But
you can you imagine like not having the foresight to
have done that already with your twelve million dollar quarterback.
Like that kid's awful. He was terrible. Sixty four total yards.
Do you know what he said before the game with
Charles Woodson. Listen to what this kid said, film ad,

(25:47):
what do you see me versus Matt Patricia? That's alys
me versus Matt Patricia. Obviously you've seen all the other
embarrassing things this kid said. He told Lebron it's over
for Ohio State the Cedar point clip where he's talking
about I run Ohio. But that one is the worst

(26:09):
by far. A Super Bowl winning, multiple Super Bowl winning
defensive coordinator who's also been an NFL offensive coordinator, who
has game planned against the best of the best, Peyton Manning,
and this kid has the stones to say it's me
versus Matt Patricia, Matt Patricia, don't know your name full Like,

(26:31):
what are we doing here? That is so embarrassing, man.
But the end of that game, it was clear Searon
and his team gave up. And because of all the
circumstances surrounding this game, because of everything, because of taking
it back, restoring order, the huge accomplishment for the Ohio

(26:55):
state head coach to get this mentally off of his back,
winning his second time. But it's been a long time,
and I think that this one will kind of go
down in our memories as one of the bigger wins
we've had in the rivalry. It's one of the bigger ones. Man,
it's up there, it's up there. What did you think
of his postgame talk? I thought it was pretty perfect.

(27:19):
I thought it was pretty perfect. But when he told
us he's been waiting so long thinking of what he
might say in this moment, like I wasn't expecting this
like that, that's pretty deep man to admit, Like, yeah,
I have reenacted sitting here in this seat over the
years many of times, wondering what am I gonna say

(27:40):
when I get there. I think it's so relatable because
I think we've all been in situations like this. We've
all been in situations like this where you think, man,
when it happens and I know it's gonna happen, what
am I going to do in that situation? And then
when it happens, you usually end up feeling so satisfied
and relief that pent up anger that you previously had,

(28:03):
And boy, I'm sure he had a ton it kind
of subsides and you just feel a little more content
and you take the high road, and that's what he did,
and that's what he did. But we've all been I've
been there. I've been there with this venture right here
doing YouTube when I first started, and people around me
were pat me on the back, saying good job and
snickering at me behind my back. All right, what am

(28:25):
I gonna say when when I get to a level
where they're not going to snicker anymore? And when I
got there, it was just satisfying and they said good job.
And I remember, I remember the ones that snickered. But
everything about Ryan Day feels so relatable to me, man,
feels so relatable going back to the beginning of what

(28:47):
we just experienced here, the Ryan Day Slam, the Ryan
Day Slam, the three hundred and sixty five days of perfection.
Because as we sit here right now, as Ohio State
fans and support and the program, it's on the top
of the college football world, the number one team, the
reigning national champions going on to play the number two

(29:09):
team in the Big Ten Championship for the right to
be number one in the playoffs, of which they are
favored now by a large margin. Ohio State plus one
fifty five to win the national championship. You bet one
hundred bucks for them to win the national championship. You're
only gonna win one hundred and fifty five dollars. That
is a huge favorite. Indiana second at plus four to sixty,

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Georgia third at plus eight hundred. Then everybody else is
in a log jam at about plus twelve hundred. But
we're sitting on top of the college football world having
just completed the perfect three to sixty five. And when
we go back to the start of this thing, it
was one of the lower points that's that we've been

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in a long time. I mean, the three weeks after
the game in twenty twenty four until the Kneeland North
massacre was the oddest three weeks that we've ever experienced.
It was so strange. You're going into the playoffs, but
the tone for that three weeks nobody even wanted to

(30:17):
go to that playoff game, the first playoff game in
the history of Ohio Stadium, and people don't even want
to go. And we were just sitting there lamenting at
the fact of how did this team with all these
seniors who came back to beat Michigan and win it all,
just inexplicably lose on their home fields twenty four point
favorites and a loss that ended with the head coach's

(30:40):
team in a brawl while he's standing there on the
field with a thousand yard stair saying what happened like?
That loss had many of fans who previously supported Ryan
Day unequivocally doubting themselves. I spoke to many of them,
normal rational, measured fans, not any kind of of lunatic friends,

(31:01):
just normal people who said, I just don't know if
I can do it anymore. I always thought, you know,
this is the guy, but I don't know if I
can support him anymore if he loses this Tennessee game,
I think I'm just out on this guy. Not lunatic
fringe people that were saying this. Totally fair, normal people,
and it was fair to ask those questions at that time.

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Now many had already had their minds made up, and
for them, that loss in twenty twenty four was just AMMO.
I don't know how those people could have been so
dug in on that at that point, But there was
plenty of them, but that game, that first home playoff
game in the Shoe, ended up being game one. Game

(31:43):
one of this unbelievable streak was the Kneeland North massacre,
and that game would put in motion what, in my opinion,
has been the single greatest year that we have ever
experienced as Ohio State fans. Now not a season year,
but a calendar year. It is the greatest year we've
ever experienced in Ohio State football in my life, A

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streak that included a National championship, a Rose bulwin, a
Cotton Bowl win, a home playoff win, two wins against Texas,
a win against Tennessee three to zero against the SEC,
another slaughtering of Notre Dame, a win at Washington, a
win at Illinois, a win against Penn State, and an
absolute domination at Michigan Indian Arbor to put a stamp

(32:28):
on it. A flawless year of football that we also
saw fourteen of our players get drafted in the middle
of it. And what adds to how impressive it was
the Ryan Day Slam is the ridiculous amount of turnover
with those players moving on a year of perfect football.

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A perfect regular season was just accomplished, while changing over
almost an entire defense, a new quarterback, and a total
of four coordinators throughout the two seasons. It's amazing and
it truly shows how elite Ryan Day has become at
his job. His program is the picture of consistency and

(33:09):
stability in college football, and he has been near flawless
in his hires. In his player acquisition and development, retention
is second to none. And he had one final hurdle
to get over, ending that damn streak and taking back
the rivalry, and he did it. So ask yourself in
your lifetime, has Ohio State football ever felt this dominant

(33:32):
on the national level as they do right now today?
I don't think they have. I don't think they have.
And thinking through this last three sixty five where the
program sits today, I think I can say right now
with confidence, while I lived through legends at Ohio State,
Urban Meyer and Jim Tressel, even the great John Cooper, who,

(33:54):
by the way, was at last Tuesday's press conference. He
was at last Tuesday's Ryan Day press conference. Tell you guys,
because they want to freak you out, but he was there,
he said through the press conference, and I was looking
back at Coop like, oh boy, I don't know if
that's a good omen, but this is historically great coaches, right.

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None of them was ever in position this close to
doing what Ryan Day is hopefully about to do. The
closest we could have said we've been is twenty fifteen,
and at that point in the season, like at this
point in that season, that twenty fifteen season, you already
had a loss to Michigan State. And the guy who

(34:36):
is delivering this is the same man that so many
doubted just one short year ago. The story is just incredible.
It's absolutely incredible, and where we sit is unbelievable. Man,
We're at the top. This is the best it'll ever be.
Enjoy it. Man, When I see people getting irritated about something,

(34:57):
look at the big picture here, man, this is amazing.
The stat of the game for me is after eleven
pressures the offensive line gave up against Wisconsin, they gave
up eleven pressures to Penn State. Then it got slightly
better against Perdue but not much better. Nine pressures given up.

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Then against Ucla they run the ball good, but Ucla
is a pretty trash defense against the run. They give
up nine or five pressures, so better on the pass pro.
Then they play Rutgers and they run the ball really good,
but they're one of the very worst in college football
against the run. So we're thinking, all right, how does
this add up against a good team. Well, they gave

(35:41):
up just five pressures against Rutgers, all right. So the
key to the game for a lot of people keep
Julian saying clean, if you keep them clean, the Buckeys
are gonna win. And if you can run the ball,
it's really over. And what do they do. They go
up to Michigan and these guys give up exactly zero,
not a single pressure on the day. Amazing. This is

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the same unit that against Wisconsin in Purdue looked totally discombobulated,
missing assignments, mental mistakes. Phil Daniels gave up six pressures
on his own. He was excellent. Austin Cerevell was giving
up pressures like. They go up to Michigan and they
did everything right. They were so locked in. It was

(36:24):
such an amazing performance man, and a lot of people
thought that this team might be the stepping stone team
to the twenty twenty six team, myself included. Some people
thought pretty sizable amount that this might be the team
that falls back and loses three games, and they were
okay with that because the last year's national championship. I

(36:47):
didn't think that, but I didn't think they would lose
one game. They didn't lose any. Speaking of that three loss,
this team is the fourteenth Ohio State team in a
row that will not lose more than two games, which
is absolutely amazing. Do you know the team the second

(37:07):
longest streak that hasn't lost three games, it's three years.
Ohio State has done it fourteen years in a row
without losing a third game. The second best streak is
three years and it's Oregon. Oregon hasn't lost more than
two games three times in a row. Ohio State fourteen.
That is just astronomical. Total dominance. Things are great, man,

(37:30):
it's great to be a Buckeye. But it's never been
better than today. Never better than today. Absolute in sanity, guys,
absolutely insane. And Ryan Day has talked all year about
the hardware like mission number one accomplished. They will have
a meeting with the gold Pants Society and get those
gold pants at the end of the year. So hardware

(37:52):
number one done and now it's on to number two.
I guess the question is should we be concerned and
after a win like that that was so emotionally taxing,
so all encompassing, right, like, how long was that game
in the back of their minds? And we talked often

(38:12):
about how they prepared, how they prepared for that game.
Seem to be much different, a much different vibe. It
wasn't so overt and all the pressure is on. It
was more like, this is just another week. We go
into every single week as prepared as we can be,
and we play as hard as we could play, and
this one will be no different. Obviously, the stakes are

(38:34):
way different and it means a lot more, but that
doesn't need to change our preparation. That was the vibe
going in. They go in and they win the game,
we see the enormous emotional release. Does that throw them
off now that they're literally in game prep week right now?

(38:55):
They got to play again Saturday. This is not like
the playoffs. You can go back to the playoffs and say, look,
xt year, they were able to win game after game
after the game in the playoffs, they had ten days
in between those games. That makes a big difference. They're
on a regular work week here, I'm still celebrating. You're
still celebrating, Like I'm not even diving into Indiana yet.

(39:15):
I'm talking a little a little bit back and forth
with a couple of Indiana folk. But like mentally, these
guys are already turning the page. Tomorrow will go down
to talk to Ryan Day and like you know, it's
not often that we see Ohio State have two massive
games back to back outside of the playoffs, like we're
in it. I'm curious how much is going to be

(39:37):
asked of him about Michigan because normally that's what we
do when we go You have a big game and
you go in in the next game might not be
so big, so you talk to him about the previous game,
or if you just played a dog, you're talking to
him about the game coming up. Well, you got a
huge game coming up. You just won a huge game.
What means more to you? I mean to me the order,

(40:01):
like the big ten of the three goals, that's number
three for me. So like this game meant a lot
more to me than I think a big ten title will.
But the circumstances of this particular Big ten title in
this particular game against Indiana are enormous. It's a one
verse two matchup. You got that cocky clown, you got
their cocky fans, and boy do I want this one

(40:23):
bad too. So these guys straight down to business, Like
if anyone, if any team we've ever had, might not
be affected by the circumstances that they're heading into now
with this huge emotional release from that game, If any
team can get over it quickly and get straight to business,
I think it's this one. With the leaders on this team,
particularly on the defensive side of the ball, with Caleb

(40:45):
Downs and Sonny Styles, who are like thirty five year
olds up here with you know, twenty five year old
NFL bodies, It's crazy, man. Somebody asked today on the
Buckeye heard a post, what are the odds of Ohio
State rematching Indiana in the playoffs and should they do that?

(41:06):
Or should the odds be good? Do we think Ryan
Day will change the way he goes about this game,
this Big ten championship game? So if you think there's
a rematch coming, do you maybe coach this game any differently?
If we're looking numerically at the odds that there will
be a rematch, the odds are pretty good. The odds

(41:26):
are pretty good. If you're just looking at the numbers.
With Indiana and Ohio State being both, you know, pretty
big favorites outside the rest of the field, the odds
would be good, and they're both going to be in
the top four with a bye week regardless of what
happens here. So then it's just gonna matter how does
it shake out who stays at number one and does

(41:49):
the other guy fall to three or four as to
whether or not they would rematch in the Final four
or the championship game, should they both move on? So
what's your take. If that's the case and we think
there probably will be a rematch, do we see Ryan
Day coach the Big Ten Championship game any differently? I
don't think so. I don't think so. I think he's

(42:09):
gonna coach this game to win this game, and without
any thought of a potential because that's all it is
at this point, a potential rematch. If you knew for
sure it was a rematch, I think things might be differently,
but as of now, it's just a potential rematch. So
goal number one is to win this Big Ten Championship.

(42:31):
I think he's made it very clear how much it
means to him and to them. He has two Big
Ten championships, but not for a while. Obviously he wants
a national championship more than a Big Ten championship. But
you play this game. You got three weeks plus of
rest after this game, because, like I said, regardless, the
loser of this game, because of how they change it now,

(42:54):
is gonna be the top four seeds. The loser of
this game will remain in the top four, and order
will be restored. We're not going to see any of
these four teams, well not we might see some, we're
not going to see all four of these four teams
that get a bye week lose, which is what we
saw last year in the playoffs. All four teams that
got the buye lost. And of course you had the

(43:15):
Oregon folks crying they lost to Ohio State because they
had twenty four days off like nobody's ever had that
Ohio State had fifty one before the National Championship game
in two thousand and six, and Oregon whining about this
twenty four days off and that's the reason. And they
used as evidence the fact that all of the teams
with bye weeks lost, but that's because they were all underdogs.

(43:38):
It was chalk straight chalk. All the favorites won that
week because we had a ridiculous system, but they changed it. Now.
One more thing about the game. Somebody made a comment
and I talked to I talked to you guys about
this last week about the game losing its luster and

(44:00):
should Carnel Tate maybe sit because it's cold, And there
were a lot of Ohio State fans even talking. Last year,
you know, they didn't care a ton about losing the
game because it doesn't matter anymore. Ohio State was still
in the playoffs, won the national championship while losing the game,
And this year Ohio State's already in the playoffs, So

(44:20):
what's it really matter. I'll tell you what, man, there
are few games in my lifetime that I have ever
seen two teams react the way these two teams reacted
after that game. And I love it. I love it
because I think it proved once and for all that
even in this era where Ohio State is still going
to the playoffs, no matter how they fared up in

(44:42):
an Arboro on Saturday, they looked like they won a
national championship. Afterwards, that celebration very similar to the celebration
after the Notre Dame win very similar. They look like
they just won it all, and there's no faking that.
There's no faking how much that meant to everybody on

(45:04):
that team, there's no faking how much that meant to
all of us supporters. There's no faking it. So from
here on out, I hope we we hear this characterize
that as it really is, and how it really is
is that this game is not as consequential to the playoffs,

(45:25):
but this game has no less meaning. In fact, it
might not have ever meant more to the participants on
both sides. So that's what I got out of it. Now,
do we have any callers who are joining us. We do.
We'll go to a caller here in a minute. Harish
has called in. Get to a couple of your comments.

(45:47):
Mike says, IGB is so frustrating. He's no Kleb downs.
He did get a PI, pretty inconsequential PI as it
turned out. But man, we're talking about a guy in
IGB who is in his fourth I think he's in
his fourth year starting as a college football player. Like

(46:09):
I think he's so underrated. One of my predictions heading
into this year was that IGB would have a sensational
season and become a fan favorite again. And I think
he's done that. Man. I think everybody loves IGB except
for you. I don't know. Emily rewatched today. Matt doesn't

(46:33):
have YouTube TV. Man, it's awesome. I hated that they
were down for a while, but it's awesome. Tony says.
History has not been good to Michigan when Michigan State
has a better coach than they do, and they do, guys,
I don't know about you, but I am so happy.
Matter of fact, I've got their helmet out. I did
a show yesterday about all the new coaching hires, and

(46:56):
I am so happy for Michigan State that they pulled
the plug on Jonathan Smith after just two years. Like boom,
you're out. You suck, You're done. We made a mistake.
And they got Pat Fitzgerald, who, yeah, he had a
rough three years to end his tenure at Northwestern, but
this is a guy who took a bunch of unathletic

(47:19):
great students. You know, really hard to get guys into
school there in the Big Ten, and many times was
able to field teams that could compete with the best
of the best in the conference, which is impressive as hell.
Now you might say he's outdated. How's he going to
do in this new era of college football with everything

(47:39):
that's involved in player acquisition and money. I listened to
him talk about it, and it is clear that he
has been studying and looking at what's working, what's not,
and he's got a plan. And you can say whatever
you want about the hazing, I get it. I know
some people feel one way or another about it. They

(48:01):
exonerated him, so that's the only stance I'm taking. He
was exonerated of having any knowledge of it. So to me,
I think it's a great hire for MSU, and I
think it shows what we don't see enough in the
Big Ten from the teams that usually end up in
the bottom six. Michigan State not one of them that
usually ends up there, but the bottom six teams in

(48:21):
the league who cash that Big ten check and don't
then invest it into the football, and we need to
see more of that. So I'm happy that Michigan State
did that. I think it's a good hire. Emily says
Juck CJ. Barnett had to sprint at halftime from the
sideline to the fifty to get Matthews. He was a handful.

(48:46):
He is a handful man. The dude is just I mean,
he doesn't have an off switch, does not have an
off switch. What he says, say we lose Brian Hartline
in a couple of years, bring Chip back day Chip
and Mats. That's a couple of legendary coaches, isn't it.
What's the chances Brian Hartline leaves for a two lane

(49:06):
type job? Man? Really low, really low. You know this
Kentucky job that just popped up and they immediately hired
Will stein Hart was gonna get gonna get an interview there.
And if he's getting interviews for Kentucky and last year

(49:26):
a West Virginia type program, he's already passed the two
lane type of job command on the market. So that
tells us that already. So that's great. Michigan needs to
request a refund for Underwood. He's atrocious. I mean, I
think he's got the goods, but yeah, that's the issue.
Looks like there's been a little no development. I mean,

(49:48):
picturing with Ryan Day for a year, you know what
I mean? Don't you think Ryan Day could make him
into a really good quarterback? I do, Yeah, Emily Heartline's
brother played there and he was just recently a ga there.

(50:16):
Doug says. Stephen Means was standing next today when the
brawl broke out and said he couldn't see what was
going on. Couldn't see what was going on. I don't know, man,
it's a little interesting there is all right, let's go

(50:36):
to the line. I think we got someone here with us. Harish,
Are you with us?

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Harish? How are you good?

Speaker 4 (50:46):
How about you good?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Thanks for calling in?

Speaker 5 (50:49):
Oh yeah, this is my first time on the show.
Was kind of nervous. But you were just talking about Patchitzgerald.
So I currently go to MSU. I go to medical
school there, but I graduated from OSU not that long ago.
Fantastic higher. I mean, that's exactly what they needed.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
You graduated from, ohiose State. Now you go to Michigan
State and you love the Pat Fitzgerald higher. I'm with you, man,
I'm totally with you. How old are you?

Speaker 4 (51:16):
I'm twenty four?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Okay, So you missed a lot of Pat Fitzgerald's great teams,
but the dude has been an absolute force. And you know,
I was looking at I was talking about earlier this
year with this Jonathan Smith, Like, man, this guy's got
to go. He just doesn't have it. They got a
ton of dudes in the transfer portal. He's got a
quarterback in Aidan Chiles, a great wide receiver in Nick Marsh.

(51:39):
They couldn't do anything. I thought they were going to
jump up and maybe bite a couple teams this year.
They didn't do any of it. They end up winning
their final game against Maryland, But to be able to
turn the page as fast as they did, I commend, like,
it's not working, get it out of here, you made
a mistake and move on. So yeah, I'm with you,
very happy about the hire.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Yeah, it seems like they must have had that name
in mind. I mean it was almost immediately after they
fired Smith, kind of.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
I mean yeah, two for two weeks. They were they
were in negotiations for two weeks and it was all
finalized before they fired.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
Him, right, I mean, I mean Smith, he just looked
dead on the side. I'm not even I mean, I'm
kind of into MSU, but they're so bad that it's
been hard to watch them the last couple of years.
And even as like, I mean, obviously I'm a student
here now, So I try to go to the games
when I can, but I mean it's just brutal. But
hopefully they get stuff figured out. But I've had a

(52:33):
couple of questions. One actually this is more of a comment,
but I mean a guy that I feel like doesn't
get talked about enough from the game on Saturday, Kenyatta Jackson.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
He was kicking there.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
I think it might have been frasier most of the
game he was lined up against, but he was kicking.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
His ass all game.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
I mean he him and Kid McDonald, Kate and McDonald too.
I mean he they they they wrecked their game, I
mean their game, playing the entire game on as I thought.
I mean, Kenyatta was in the backfield like almost every
he was winning almost everyone on one. Yeah, and when
they chipped Cad McDonald was able to just take cripping

(53:12):
straight to the ground. I mean it was it was
that was nice to watch, honestly, especially after.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
The last game. Yeah, I think you're right. Kenyata is
you know, a player who you know, a lot of
people had a ton of high hopes for a big
sack number coming into this year, but it was clear
that they you know, they weren't utilizing him in that way,
and and he kind of made that clear when when
one of those Wednesday interview sessions he said, you know,
it was probably middle of the year, said, I asked

(53:37):
coach Patricia if we could, you know, I could showcase
my past moves a little bit pass rush moves, and
then they let him movese for a couple of games,
and immediately we see production. So he's got it all.
And then we see him in this game, and I
thought he was just tremendous. The bull rush, the speed rush,
like everything was on point, and he really helped himself
a lot. I saw Dame Bugler say that I thinks

(54:00):
he's a two day pick or a day two pick
U and obviously that that sounds good to us because
that means there's room for him to want to come
back and potentially get into that first round. Uh So
that is honestly one of the bigger probably the biggest
is that's the biggest decision that we're looking forward to
this offseason, because for the most part, I think he's

(54:23):
kind of the only one that might have a decision
that they could potentially come back. But I'm with you,
he's a guy we probably don't talk about as much
as we should, but he's been fantastic all year.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Really, Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
Yeah, And I honestly like if he continues that kind
of play in the playoffs, especially next week.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
I mean, Carter Smith is pretty.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
Good, but I think there are other tackles in the NF,
other tackles food. I mean, he's not He was getting
I mean obliterated that Oregon game. Granted they got a
very good D line, but still like that. I mean that,
I just don't understand how they're going to block up
run against that front four.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
We got to goes here. And then one other comment.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
I don't want to take up too much of your time,
but did you hear about the whole communications getting knocked at.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
It during the game?

Speaker 5 (55:11):
And well, I mean what I saw the video of
whoever that was on our sideline from Michigan.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Here.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Let me show the video to everybody. I got it
loaded up, So here's the video he's talking about here,
so you can see a couple of guys in Michigan
gear and you can see our guys here yelling at
him to get the hell out of there. And the
commentary around this video was these guys were messing around
with the Ohio State comms, and obviously I don't know.

(55:44):
I don't know if they're standing at the comms. I
don't really know what's going on there, you know what
I mean. But that's what that's what the word was,
So who knows. But I think it's great for the story.
It's great for the rivalry.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Oh yeah, it's just more fuel to the fire for sure.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's fantastic. So I don't know if it
was intentional, but I'm gonna go ahead and say that
it was and we'll stick to that. It just adds more.
I love it.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
And then last thing I don't know if you've heard
about were they was the Michigan players actually lining up
in the tunnel after the game when everyone is head
into the tunnel, you know, ready to I mean ambush.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I heard. So, I mean,
I really thought that what we were going to see
at the end of this game was so much police presence,
like all right, we're not letting this happen again, Like
the adults are going to figure this out. We're gonna
make sure these guys are in their locker room. Then
we're gonna bring these guys off. The fact that nobody

(56:41):
planned ahead for that almost makes me think like they
want to see the chaos, right, Like how could you?
I don't know if it was me and I was
in charge of the stadium security or something like, there
would be a plan in place for this, and I
think it would evolve first we're getting the home team
off or the losing team get the hell off the
guys celebrate, but then you got the whole flag thing,

(57:03):
and I mean, it's just getting ridiculous. Man. I the
game is so overly chippy at this point that it's
almost becoming like usually back in the day, when we
used to see like little scraps and little fights pop off,
it felt like organic. Now it feels almost forced, like
everybody wants to get that highlight now, and it's just
it's just a little bit of overkill at this point.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Yeah, especially that dude gire Heel getting him bo Jackson's face.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
He ran out like a sixty yard run, tacking out
of balance, like what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Yeah, that was ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Like what was the point of that?

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Man?

Speaker 4 (57:37):
It is what it is. But yay, thanks for having
me on. Good talking.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
I appreciate you for calling brother, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Yeah, and just I'm happy for Ryan day that. I mean,
it was got me emotional to see him like talk
after the game and the little press confer, the little
interview they have.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
But absolutely it was awesome. Thanks for reach. Have a
good one, bro, you too. That is a good dude. Man.
I liked him so A buck guy student who now
goes to medical school up at Michigan State. What's up?

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Rod?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Rod says, I'm calling it now. Heartline stays for one
more year and it's Florida State in twenty twenty seven. Rod,
that makes too much sense. Man, I don't really like
the sound of that. You know, these Kentucky guys were
talking about heart at Kentucky and they're pulling up all
these pictures of Heartline's greatest hits in recruiting, and like

(58:37):
trying to talk the Kentucky fans who were against that
thought like, look at what he can bring. Look, he's
a great recruiter. You're Kentucky. That's different. That's a different deal.
Oh Man, funny stuff, Man, funny stuff, all right, my friends,

(59:01):
one more here, Billy Billy says, Penn State doesn't seem
to have any head coaching options. It has been weird
how we've seen the other schools handled their search versus
Penn State. The last I heard, and it was Kolonie Sataki,
the BYU head coach, was asked about the Penn State
coach head coaching job, and he diverted the question, didn't

(59:25):
give one of those unequivocal nos, talked about We're just
gonna kind of stay focused on this. I think there's
a pretty good chance that he might be the guy,
which surprises me because he's a BYU guy through and
through and I wouldn't have thought he'd ever let leave.
But if he has aspirations to win a national championship,

(59:45):
he can't do that at BYU or Penn State, but
he thinks he can. So maybe he's the guy. Maybe
he is the guy. He's a pretty good coach. Not
something I would be nervous about. There we go, Oh
never mind, Billy follows this up. B YU gave him
an extension. Okay, well he's out. Then should have read

(01:00:08):
down a little further. I'm with my man, her outcast.
Franklin's gonna be a problem a Virginia Tech for PSU.
I think this is maybe if we're ranking all these highers,
like I do love will Stein at Kentucky for who
they are, but they have a ceiling that's not very high.

(01:00:28):
But Franklin at Virginia Tech. Franklin can make the playoffs
at Virginia Tech and the ACC, and I think it's
kind of being overlooked. It's like, well, yeah, it's good
for Virginia Tech. He can make the playoffs there, which
would be amazing. Yeah, it is a rule. If our
coms go down, there's have to too. But you know,

(01:00:49):
there's rules and then there's rules being enforced. Yeah, the
guy hasn't improved at all at all. So all right, friends,
I do appreciate you so much. Again, We've got obviously
a massive day on Wednesday as the class of twenty

(01:01:13):
twenty six Early signing day opens up, and we're gonna see, uh,
We're gonna see who's in, who's going to flip, who's
going to give us some more anxiety, and we will
go over all the potential options and all the rumors
and the coming of goings on tomorrow mornings. Chuck on Bucks,
I do appreciate you for joining me here on Buckehud

(01:01:33):
of prime time and we will be back next Wednesday
at eight pm. We'll have the phone lines open, we'll
do it again, and we will dive in a little
more on Indiana as today was pretty well game focused.
But thank you all so much for joining me. I
appreciate all your comments. You guys are the best and
I will talk to you then. Buckehudle out