December 3, 2025 • 17 mins
In this episode of the Buckeye Weekly Podcast, Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr recap what they heard from Ryan Day, Julian Sayin, Kayden McDonald, Kenyatta Jackson, and Jaylen McClain following interviews Wednesday night. Daniels talked about dominating Michigan. Sayin was asked about the Heisman. McClain discussed his role as the last line of defense. McDonald shared his appreciation for where he's at, and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always Tom or Tom. How's it going.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Another Wednesday night here in the Woody. This is I
think we normally do this Big Ten Championship game week,
but this feels like this is sort of like keeping
in the spirit of just sort of staying in the
normal weekly rhythm and everything. This week today, especially, exactly
like it has been every single previous week. Nothing different
at all than I can think of that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
No, the routine is the routine time. I'm not sure
if you've heard that. The routine is the routine, except for,
of course, your offensive coordinator leaving for the University of
South Florida. But we have covered that already on the channel.
If you go to YouTube dot com slash bucke Huddle,
you can find the live reaction show there from that. Today,
(00:48):
talking with Ryan Day was about the game ahead, and frankly,
I don't know that there was much shared from Ryan
Day today. He did mention that Jeremiah Smith and Cardell
Tate are better than they were week ago, so all
signs point to them playing ideal conditions. So that's something
you don't have to be concerned about, and frankly, ideal
conditions means also your entire offense is open whatever you
(01:12):
would like to do with it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, for sure, this is an Ohio State offense that
matter thrives in indoor stadiums, you know, the Rose Bowl,
where it's sunny and warm and not windy or and
really outside of maybe it will rain in Miami in
a potential National Championship game scenario. That's probably about the
(01:33):
only potential weather concerns you really have. It is certainly rained.
While we have been out in California for the Rose
Bowl in the past, but hasn't during the game since
we've been out there. Every other potential game moving forward
is indoors. So this is you know, this is the
time of year where Ohio State kind of got through
(01:54):
the test last weekend that was okay, far from ideal conditions.
How are you going to do? They absolutely answered the
bell last weekend and now, you know, right even brought
that up in the postgame postgame press conference in Michigan
where it's like, you know, boy, if this isn't you know,
an indoor game, this is a very different game. Like
he already you could tell already mentally, he's already thinking
(02:15):
like rubbing his hands together and going, oh boy, here
we go.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
We talked with Julians saying today he was asked about
the Heisman, and he said he's not interested in any
of the outside noise, which is the most disrespectful thing
I've ever heard about the award to call it outside noise.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You've read me talk about the award before.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So that's neither here nor there for Julian saying, he
just wants to make the plays that are available to
be made. He'd rather dump off for a first down
probably than win any kind of award right now. So
there's some things where he's going to where he's only
worried about the game, and that's what's gotten him to
this point so far. Not expecting that to change, not
(02:56):
expecting him Tom to try to do more than he can.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And he doesn't have to do more than he can.
He doesn't have to be he's not in a position
where he's probably going to be forcing the ball into
real tight windows or into you know what would be
tight windows for a lot of other receivers. Are Yeah,
that guy's open. It's fine with some of the guys
that he has the luxury of throwing the football to
(03:20):
I would expect him to go out and have you know,
he's going to be prepared obviously for this game. This
is going to be a challenge. This is one of
the best defenses in the nation. He is as well
quick equipped as anyone in the nation to take on
one of the best defenses in the nation. The offensive
line feels like it has sort of short itself up.
They've figured out some of the issues they had in
the running game. The wide receivers are now healthier and
(03:42):
in the better spot than they have been in recent weeks.
And now the weather's not concern. It's just it, you know.
And he has been consistently one of the most accurate
quarterbacks in the nation, especially when he's throwing to the
guys we has the real good rhythm with So yeah,
I think he's I think it is teed up him
to have a really good day on a very big
(04:02):
stage in what you know, could be a head to
head the Heisman thing where he doesn't have to worry
about the Heisman, because if he just worries about the
stuff he needs to worry about, the Heisman takes care
of itself.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
The offensive lineman will win him the Heisman. Speaking of
the offensive lineman, Philip Daniels, we talked with him. Always
great to talk talk to him. He was asked about
the Michigan game, was like, ready to move on, but
I mean, if you want to ask about it, fine,
we'll talk about it, all right. He was asked if
(04:35):
he asked about the twenty play drive. Is that I
didn't even realize it was twenty plays. I just kept
lining up looking to see who I was gonna kill
and how I was going to kill him. And that's
Philip Daniels. Whenever we get to talk to him. He
loves talking about He is a football guy on the
offensive line and has mentioned that he also needs to
just play within himself when and I think he's done that,
(04:58):
play to the line, don't go over the line. I
think it's another thing that he has said, but he
said basically, when you see how clean Julian Saying came
out of that game, that's exactly what you're looking for,
is the offensive wine and now they want to do
it again.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, exactly, the offensive line. This is you know, kind
of like you can't win the national championship in the
spring but you can lose it. The offensive line can't
win the Heisman Trophy. For Julian saying what they could
lose it, they based on how they played up at Michigan's.
That doesn't seem like a problem. And Daniels in particular,
he's someone who's very emotional, and he is very you know,
he will have some big reactions on the field, and
(05:33):
I think it was natural to kind of go into
that game and sort of wonder, Okay, this is going
to be by far the most emotional game of the season.
How is he going to handle that? And any game
where it felt like people were constantly trying to bait
other people into big overreactions fifteen yard you know, retaliation
kind of penalties. Nothing it was I thought that was
(05:54):
that was one of the storylines that we sort of
talked about in advance of the game, and I haven't
thought about since because it was just it was never
something you thought about or noticed during the game. And
you know, he has been of all the people that
they brought in in the portal this year, I think
he has been the single most pleasant surprise. I can't
I mean, I'm just sort of thinking through and it's
(06:16):
like It's not that they had about a portal class
or anything, but it just feels like he has been
as positive and impact on this team as anyone. You know. C. J.
Donaldson's obviously had a very good season as well. But
Daniels came in and we were thinking, well, okay, that's great,
that's a twenty twenty six fix. What a luxury to
have him in a year early, and then he's been
a starter from day one and been phenomenal. Really.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
He also was talking about how he and the team
were just so locked in against Michigan, So I asked him,
does that make it harder to get that locked in
again or easier? Easier because we've done it and we've
been doing it. Yeah, and so yeah, that may have
been a little bit different because it was Michigan, but
he believes they're going to be able to get back
to that place, which is basically what you need the
rest of the way out. So I thought that was interesting,
(06:59):
where you know, that is a question how do you
get back up after an emotional win against Michigan, And
basically it's, well, that's that's what we've been doing, and
we were locked in once, we'll get locked in again
because we know how to get there. Defensively talked with
Kenyada Jackson, Caden McDonald, Jalen McLean. I think both Kenyata
and Jadeen Jalen McLain were saying, Michigan has done. We're
(07:23):
not bogged down in the past. We don't want to
There's much more to come. Sure, great to get that win.
Great for the SENI years, great for Kenyada even said
great for I wanted to do this for Tile and
all those guys that are here. But now it's it's
on to Indiana and Indianapolis and a place that none
of them have been. And you've got Jalen McLain, who's
a true sophomore wants to be there just as bad
(07:44):
as fourth year junior ken YadA Jackson.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, and you know this is Yeah, I know there's
sort of that conversation that's going on right now in
the sort of Ohio state internet sphere about they'd be
you know, they should just say we're not going to go.
It doesn't matter who cares. Believe me, the team cares
like this is we talk about this constantly. We talked
constantly about the fact that we talk about this constantly.
(08:08):
The three goals for the team beat Michigan. Okay, check
win the Big Ten. Haven't done that yet, and win
the national championship. They did that the one back in January,
did the other one last Saturday. They want to get
the next one like they want, you know, they they
want that. They want twenty twenty five up on that
wall where they have the list of the Big Ten championships.
This is not a this is those are national. Yeah,
(08:30):
they want they want Yeah, there's an empty spot right there,
right there. Yes, there's an empty spot right there on
the wall for the next national championship banner. They would
like to fill that one as well, but you know,
they they can't. They can't do that this weekend. But
they can they can put another number up on the
Big Ten Championship bowl. And you know in the tunnel
in Michigan. I did a video there last weekend and
(08:52):
they have two walls there and one of them is
national championshipships. One of them's Big Ten Championships Ohio State.
They don't have the Big Ten champion in here, but
they will have a new playoff year on the banners
up there. They'd like to add a national championship on
the wall behind us. But you know they do have
they have had over the years, had like Big Ten
championships on the wall and the team room and that
kind of stuff. So yeah, that is absolutely a goal.
(09:14):
That's absolutely something that's on their line. Kid McDonald, you
mentioned him. He was asked he won the Big Ten
Defensive Lineman of the Year award and seemed like genuinely
moved by that. He is, you know, he is a
like really just like a nice kid, Like he's a
real and he called himself a kid, so I can
call it it. It's okay, it's not just that I'm old.
But he you know, he just a really good dude.
(09:35):
He is, you know, a little bit seft spoken, but
also like a really big personality. And he was asked about,
you know, what it meant to him to win the
win the Big Ten Defensive Lineman of the Award, and immediately,
you know, thank god, And then immediately went through a
list of I think about twenty people ranging from former
teammates to current teammates to current staff people and the
(09:58):
team nutritionist and Larry John and it was just like
he is just so grateful for everyone around him, because
you know, he did not come in necessarily as top
five national player, five star like he you know, he
was a very solid respective recruit, but was not someone
dude that you looked at and thought absolutely top you know,
(10:18):
future first round draft pick. He is. He is like
in his first year as a starter, is checking all
the boxes right now. And you know, he's one of
those players that I think it's it's very easy to
root for and he's someone who you know, is just
he He has been just a lot of fun to
just watch this year, both during the plays and then
also very enthusiastic celebrations after some of the plays as well.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, he's grown this year. Jalen McClain talked about how
he has grown this year from the start of the
season where he was confident, but now he like he
knows everything and that there are three times against Michigan
where he was the last tackle to stop a touchdown basically,
and they asked if he got any accolades for that.
He's like, I just doing my job, you know, That's
(11:04):
That's what I'm here for. Just tackling when I need
to tackle, cover when I need to cover, and uh,
and that's we talk about Jordan Fuller being that last
line of defense that you can always count on Jalen
McClain as a sophomore doing that. I did ask Kenyata
and Jalen McClain both how Tavi and Saint Clair has
done as the Fernando Mendoza on the Scout team both
(11:26):
he's done a great job this year as a Scout
Team quarterback, but also his athleticism gives them another challenge
this week, as does Fernando Mendoza. So it's interesting to
see the birth of a young quarterback and the progression
from Scout Team to then eventual whatever. But always always
interested to get feedback during this time of the year,
(11:47):
the bull time bullprep when they're getting more practice time
for the young guys to see how the next quarterback,
the potential next quarterback.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is doing well. And this is the time of year
where the freshmen aren't really freshman anymore, and you're starting
to get to the point where guys start talking about
you know, we'll probably get to talk to tav And
again in like February or March, but guys will talk
about the games slowing down for them, and you know,
you can you can still see when you're watching, you know,
watching Bryce Underwood, you could see the moments where it
(12:17):
was like there's a guy open and you don't see
it because your brain is going a thousand miles an
hour and you're going crepp cropple crap, and and you're
not you're not processing stuff. And that's just reps. That's
just time. That's just time in the filler room, time,
on the practice field time, and on the game field.
There's no there's no substitute for that. And so now
(12:38):
you've got you know, for TV and Saint Clayer, but
for a lot of other freshmen, you're starting to see that.
You're seeing that with their running backs. Running backs are
generally able to get on the field earlier than quarterbacks
generally as true freshmen. But even for those guys, they're
seeing the field better. You're you're hitting the whole correctly.
They're they're they're going to the running of the right spot,
they are finding the cutback lanes, all the stuff that
(13:00):
it's like, okay, you know, this is now just not
just a huge blur of large bodies in front of you.
You are you know, you were seeing the code in
the matrix a little bit. That's what happens for freshman
this time of year.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, and Philip Daniels talked about seeing it from Bo
Jackson in spring. There's just one particular play where there
are two guards right next to each other on a
play and Bo like squeezed between them and then the
hole opened and he's like, right then, I knew that
this kid is special. And you've seen that. Come on
and he's had four possibly I'm gonna say he signed
it for a thousand yards this season. He's a few short,
(13:33):
maybe forty short, but he's got at least two games
to get him there.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Tony, Tony, The Bold Prediction Show is Thursday. That's not
Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Sorry, sorry, anything else today from interviews or anything.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Else, I don't think so. I mean the general tone
around I heard Julian saying talking about Brian Hartline and
Brian a obviously talked about it earlier. The tone around
Brian Hartlines leaving for USF is good for him, congratulations,
well deserved. You know, Julian sand was asked about Heartline deciding,
(14:03):
you know, he was going to stick around and coach
through the playoff and the fact that he was welcome
to do that, and he kind of went like, yeah,
he went here, he graduated from here, like, yeah, of
course he's going to do that. But yeah, I think
anytime someone leaves, there were lots of I saw lots
of people in the comments on our live stream just
ready to throw themselves off the roof, and it's like,
(14:24):
all right, guys, it's okay, it'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And do you remember when urban Meyer left.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I recall that, yes, yes, that was the time that
everything was going to go to just absolutely to go
to heck immediately, right, And it did, and it did. Now,
I think the heartline thing is this was something that
is not a surprise to anyone in the building that
this is happening, you know, the specifics of it, and
(14:50):
when it happened was a little a little bit surprised
because it sounds like it came together very quickly. But
the fact that he was, you know, potentially looking and
potentially going to be viable candidate for some of these
positions wasn't a surprise to us. So I'm sure sure
as heck wasn't a surprise to anyone in this building.
And this is also not like what are they gonna
do now? Like I can assure you Ryan Day has
(15:12):
a plan for what the pot you know, what they're
going to do. Now we were talking on earlier about
what we think that plan might be. But you know,
this is if you know this is a possibility, and
he's been interviewing for head coaching positions for a couple
of seasons, now you had to know this as a possibility.
So yeah, there's a plan. It'll be fine, you know,
if you we'll see there are still a couple of
(15:34):
recruits who are waiting to waiting to sign one way
or another that you know, it's still it's still a
little bit of an open question. But you know, as
as Ryan Day said, this is you know the Ohio
State football we'll we'll be here long after each individual
person on this in this program is here. So you
know it'll be uh, it'll be fine. And they are
still number one, defending national champions Number two he just
(15:56):
beat Michigan like four days ago, and number three headed
to the Big Ten championship game, and number four still
somewhat prohibitive favorites to win the national championship game again
this season. So I would say is all lost? I
would argue no, I.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Would say it's okay to feel However, however you want.
But it's also not a bad thing to recognize where
things are that they still appear to be headed in
a strong direction. And don't give up hope just yet.
On the Ohio State football program.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So this is something that's called adversity. Most people see
it a lot more often than Ohio State football fans,
but I know it's a new concept for some. So
that's what this is. It generally won't kill you.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It may make you stronger, or it may just annoy
you for an awful long time.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So is that how that saying goes.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Listen, that's the the longer version. People only hear the
abridged version. I give them the unabridged version. So that
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(17:04):
Thank you all for tuning in, and we'll talk to
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Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always Tom or Tom. How's it going.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Another Wednesday night here in the Woody. This is I
think we normally do this Big Ten Championship game week,
but this feels like this is sort of like keeping
in the spirit of just sort of staying in the
normal weekly rhythm and everything. This week today, especially, exactly
like it has been every single previous week. Nothing different
at all than I can think of that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
No, the routine is the routine time. I'm not sure
if you've heard that. The routine is the routine, except for,
of course, your offensive coordinator leaving for the University of
South Florida. But we have covered that already on the channel.
If you go to YouTube dot com slash bucke Huddle,
you can find the live reaction show there from that. Today,
(00:48):
talking with Ryan Day was about the game ahead, and frankly,
I don't know that there was much shared from Ryan
Day today. He did mention that Jeremiah Smith and Cardell
Tate are better than they were week ago, so all
signs point to them playing ideal conditions. So that's something
you don't have to be concerned about, and frankly, ideal
conditions means also your entire offense is open whatever you
(01:12):
would like to do with it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, for sure, this is an Ohio State offense that
matter thrives in indoor stadiums, you know, the Rose Bowl,
where it's sunny and warm and not windy or and
really outside of maybe it will rain in Miami in
a potential National Championship game scenario. That's probably about the
(01:33):
only potential weather concerns you really have. It is certainly rained.
While we have been out in California for the Rose
Bowl in the past, but hasn't during the game since
we've been out there. Every other potential game moving forward
is indoors. So this is you know, this is the
time of year where Ohio State kind of got through
(01:54):
the test last weekend that was okay, far from ideal conditions.
How are you going to do? They absolutely answered the
bell last weekend and now, you know, right even brought
that up in the postgame postgame press conference in Michigan
where it's like, you know, boy, if this isn't you know,
an indoor game, this is a very different game. Like
he already you could tell already mentally, he's already thinking
(02:15):
like rubbing his hands together and going, oh boy, here
we go.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
We talked with Julians saying today he was asked about
the Heisman, and he said he's not interested in any
of the outside noise, which is the most disrespectful thing
I've ever heard about the award to call it outside noise.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You've read me talk about the award before.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So that's neither here nor there for Julian saying, he
just wants to make the plays that are available to
be made. He'd rather dump off for a first down
probably than win any kind of award right now. So
there's some things where he's going to where he's only
worried about the game, and that's what's gotten him to
this point so far. Not expecting that to change, not
(02:56):
expecting him Tom to try to do more than he can.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And he doesn't have to do more than he can.
He doesn't have to be he's not in a position
where he's probably going to be forcing the ball into
real tight windows or into you know what would be
tight windows for a lot of other receivers. Are Yeah,
that guy's open. It's fine with some of the guys
that he has the luxury of throwing the football to
(03:20):
I would expect him to go out and have you know,
he's going to be prepared obviously for this game. This
is going to be a challenge. This is one of
the best defenses in the nation. He is as well
quick equipped as anyone in the nation to take on
one of the best defenses in the nation. The offensive
line feels like it has sort of short itself up.
They've figured out some of the issues they had in
the running game. The wide receivers are now healthier and
(03:42):
in the better spot than they have been in recent weeks.
And now the weather's not concern. It's just it, you know.
And he has been consistently one of the most accurate
quarterbacks in the nation, especially when he's throwing to the
guys we has the real good rhythm with So yeah,
I think he's I think it is teed up him
to have a really good day on a very big
(04:02):
stage in what you know, could be a head to
head the Heisman thing where he doesn't have to worry
about the Heisman, because if he just worries about the
stuff he needs to worry about, the Heisman takes care
of itself.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
The offensive lineman will win him the Heisman. Speaking of
the offensive lineman, Philip Daniels, we talked with him. Always
great to talk talk to him. He was asked about
the Michigan game, was like, ready to move on, but
I mean, if you want to ask about it, fine,
we'll talk about it, all right. He was asked if
(04:35):
he asked about the twenty play drive. Is that I
didn't even realize it was twenty plays. I just kept
lining up looking to see who I was gonna kill
and how I was going to kill him. And that's
Philip Daniels. Whenever we get to talk to him. He
loves talking about He is a football guy on the
offensive line and has mentioned that he also needs to
just play within himself when and I think he's done that,
(04:58):
play to the line, don't go over the line. I
think it's another thing that he has said, but he
said basically, when you see how clean Julian Saying came
out of that game, that's exactly what you're looking for,
is the offensive wine and now they want to do
it again.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, exactly, the offensive line. This is you know, kind
of like you can't win the national championship in the
spring but you can lose it. The offensive line can't
win the Heisman Trophy. For Julian saying what they could
lose it, they based on how they played up at Michigan's.
That doesn't seem like a problem. And Daniels in particular,
he's someone who's very emotional, and he is very you know,
he will have some big reactions on the field, and
(05:33):
I think it was natural to kind of go into
that game and sort of wonder, Okay, this is going
to be by far the most emotional game of the season.
How is he going to handle that? And any game
where it felt like people were constantly trying to bait
other people into big overreactions fifteen yard you know, retaliation
kind of penalties. Nothing it was I thought that was
(05:54):
that was one of the storylines that we sort of
talked about in advance of the game, and I haven't
thought about since because it was just it was never
something you thought about or noticed during the game. And
you know, he has been of all the people that
they brought in in the portal this year, I think
he has been the single most pleasant surprise. I can't
I mean, I'm just sort of thinking through and it's
(06:16):
like It's not that they had about a portal class
or anything, but it just feels like he has been
as positive and impact on this team as anyone. You know. C. J.
Donaldson's obviously had a very good season as well. But
Daniels came in and we were thinking, well, okay, that's great,
that's a twenty twenty six fix. What a luxury to
have him in a year early, and then he's been
a starter from day one and been phenomenal. Really.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
He also was talking about how he and the team
were just so locked in against Michigan, So I asked him,
does that make it harder to get that locked in
again or easier? Easier because we've done it and we've
been doing it. Yeah, and so yeah, that may have
been a little bit different because it was Michigan, but
he believes they're going to be able to get back
to that place, which is basically what you need the
rest of the way out. So I thought that was interesting,
(06:59):
where you know, that is a question how do you
get back up after an emotional win against Michigan, And
basically it's, well, that's that's what we've been doing, and
we were locked in once, we'll get locked in again
because we know how to get there. Defensively talked with
Kenyada Jackson, Caden McDonald, Jalen McLean. I think both Kenyata
and Jadeen Jalen McLain were saying, Michigan has done. We're
(07:23):
not bogged down in the past. We don't want to
There's much more to come. Sure, great to get that win.
Great for the SENI years, great for Kenyada even said
great for I wanted to do this for Tile and
all those guys that are here. But now it's it's
on to Indiana and Indianapolis and a place that none
of them have been. And you've got Jalen McLain, who's
a true sophomore wants to be there just as bad
(07:44):
as fourth year junior ken YadA Jackson.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, and you know this is Yeah, I know there's
sort of that conversation that's going on right now in
the sort of Ohio state internet sphere about they'd be
you know, they should just say we're not going to go.
It doesn't matter who cares. Believe me, the team cares
like this is we talk about this constantly. We talked
constantly about the fact that we talk about this constantly.
(08:08):
The three goals for the team beat Michigan. Okay, check
win the Big Ten. Haven't done that yet, and win
the national championship. They did that the one back in January,
did the other one last Saturday. They want to get
the next one like they want, you know, they they
want that. They want twenty twenty five up on that
wall where they have the list of the Big Ten championships.
This is not a this is those are national. Yeah,
(08:30):
they want they want Yeah, there's an empty spot right there,
right there. Yes, there's an empty spot right there on
the wall for the next national championship banner. They would
like to fill that one as well, but you know,
they they can't. They can't do that this weekend. But
they can they can put another number up on the
Big Ten Championship bowl. And you know in the tunnel
in Michigan. I did a video there last weekend and
(08:52):
they have two walls there and one of them is
national championshipships. One of them's Big Ten Championships Ohio State.
They don't have the Big Ten champion in here, but
they will have a new playoff year on the banners
up there. They'd like to add a national championship on
the wall behind us. But you know they do have
they have had over the years, had like Big Ten
championships on the wall and the team room and that
kind of stuff. So yeah, that is absolutely a goal.
(09:14):
That's absolutely something that's on their line. Kid McDonald, you
mentioned him. He was asked he won the Big Ten
Defensive Lineman of the Year award and seemed like genuinely
moved by that. He is, you know, he is a
like really just like a nice kid, Like he's a
real and he called himself a kid, so I can
call it it. It's okay, it's not just that I'm old.
But he you know, he just a really good dude.
(09:35):
He is, you know, a little bit seft spoken, but
also like a really big personality. And he was asked about,
you know, what it meant to him to win the
win the Big Ten Defensive Lineman of the Award, and immediately,
you know, thank god, And then immediately went through a
list of I think about twenty people ranging from former
teammates to current teammates to current staff people and the
(09:58):
team nutritionist and Larry John and it was just like
he is just so grateful for everyone around him, because
you know, he did not come in necessarily as top
five national player, five star like he you know, he
was a very solid respective recruit, but was not someone
dude that you looked at and thought absolutely top you know,
(10:18):
future first round draft pick. He is. He is like
in his first year as a starter, is checking all
the boxes right now. And you know, he's one of
those players that I think it's it's very easy to
root for and he's someone who you know, is just
he He has been just a lot of fun to
just watch this year, both during the plays and then
also very enthusiastic celebrations after some of the plays as well.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, he's grown this year. Jalen McClain talked about how
he has grown this year from the start of the
season where he was confident, but now he like he
knows everything and that there are three times against Michigan
where he was the last tackle to stop a touchdown basically,
and they asked if he got any accolades for that.
He's like, I just doing my job, you know, That's
(11:04):
That's what I'm here for. Just tackling when I need
to tackle, cover when I need to cover, and uh,
and that's we talk about Jordan Fuller being that last
line of defense that you can always count on Jalen
McClain as a sophomore doing that. I did ask Kenyata
and Jalen McClain both how Tavi and Saint Clair has
done as the Fernando Mendoza on the Scout team both
(11:26):
he's done a great job this year as a Scout
Team quarterback, but also his athleticism gives them another challenge
this week, as does Fernando Mendoza. So it's interesting to
see the birth of a young quarterback and the progression
from Scout Team to then eventual whatever. But always always
interested to get feedback during this time of the year,
(11:47):
the bull time bullprep when they're getting more practice time
for the young guys to see how the next quarterback,
the potential next quarterback.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is doing well. And this is the time of year
where the freshmen aren't really freshman anymore, and you're starting
to get to the point where guys start talking about
you know, we'll probably get to talk to tav And
again in like February or March, but guys will talk
about the games slowing down for them, and you know,
you can you can still see when you're watching, you know,
watching Bryce Underwood, you could see the moments where it
(12:17):
was like there's a guy open and you don't see
it because your brain is going a thousand miles an
hour and you're going crepp cropple crap, and and you're
not you're not processing stuff. And that's just reps. That's
just time. That's just time in the filler room, time,
on the practice field time, and on the game field.
There's no there's no substitute for that. And so now
(12:38):
you've got you know, for TV and Saint Clayer, but
for a lot of other freshmen, you're starting to see that.
You're seeing that with their running backs. Running backs are
generally able to get on the field earlier than quarterbacks
generally as true freshmen. But even for those guys, they're
seeing the field better. You're you're hitting the whole correctly.
They're they're they're going to the running of the right spot,
they are finding the cutback lanes, all the stuff that
(13:00):
it's like, okay, you know, this is now just not
just a huge blur of large bodies in front of you.
You are you know, you were seeing the code in
the matrix a little bit. That's what happens for freshman
this time of year.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, and Philip Daniels talked about seeing it from Bo
Jackson in spring. There's just one particular play where there
are two guards right next to each other on a
play and Bo like squeezed between them and then the
hole opened and he's like, right then, I knew that
this kid is special. And you've seen that. Come on
and he's had four possibly I'm gonna say he signed
it for a thousand yards this season. He's a few short,
(13:33):
maybe forty short, but he's got at least two games
to get him there.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Tony, Tony, The Bold Prediction Show is Thursday. That's not
Wednesday night.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Sorry, sorry, anything else today from interviews or anything.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Else, I don't think so. I mean the general tone
around I heard Julian saying talking about Brian Hartline and
Brian a obviously talked about it earlier. The tone around
Brian Hartlines leaving for USF is good for him, congratulations,
well deserved. You know, Julian sand was asked about Heartline deciding,
(14:03):
you know, he was going to stick around and coach
through the playoff and the fact that he was welcome
to do that, and he kind of went like, yeah,
he went here, he graduated from here, like, yeah, of
course he's going to do that. But yeah, I think
anytime someone leaves, there were lots of I saw lots
of people in the comments on our live stream just
ready to throw themselves off the roof, and it's like,
(14:24):
all right, guys, it's okay, it'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And do you remember when urban Meyer left.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I recall that, yes, yes, that was the time that
everything was going to go to just absolutely to go
to heck immediately, right, And it did, and it did. Now,
I think the heartline thing is this was something that
is not a surprise to anyone in the building that
this is happening, you know, the specifics of it, and
(14:50):
when it happened was a little a little bit surprised
because it sounds like it came together very quickly. But
the fact that he was, you know, potentially looking and
potentially going to be viable candidate for some of these
positions wasn't a surprise to us. So I'm sure sure
as heck wasn't a surprise to anyone in this building.
And this is also not like what are they gonna
do now? Like I can assure you Ryan Day has
(15:12):
a plan for what the pot you know, what they're
going to do. Now we were talking on earlier about
what we think that plan might be. But you know,
this is if you know this is a possibility, and
he's been interviewing for head coaching positions for a couple
of seasons, now you had to know this as a possibility.
So yeah, there's a plan. It'll be fine, you know,
if you we'll see there are still a couple of
(15:34):
recruits who are waiting to waiting to sign one way
or another that you know, it's still it's still a
little bit of an open question. But you know, as
as Ryan Day said, this is you know the Ohio
State football we'll we'll be here long after each individual
person on this in this program is here. So you
know it'll be uh, it'll be fine. And they are
still number one, defending national champions Number two he just
(15:56):
beat Michigan like four days ago, and number three headed
to the Big Ten championship game, and number four still
somewhat prohibitive favorites to win the national championship game again
this season. So I would say is all lost? I
would argue no, I.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Would say it's okay to feel However, however you want.
But it's also not a bad thing to recognize where
things are that they still appear to be headed in
a strong direction. And don't give up hope just yet.
On the Ohio State football program.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So this is something that's called adversity. Most people see
it a lot more often than Ohio State football fans,
but I know it's a new concept for some. So
that's what this is. It generally won't kill you.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It may make you stronger, or it may just annoy
you for an awful long time.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So is that how that saying goes.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Listen, that's the the longer version. People only hear the
abridged version. I give them the unabridged version. So that
will do it from the woody hear. If you want
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(17:04):
Thank you all for tuning in, and we'll talk to
you all later.
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