Latest CFP Rankings Reveal, Livestream Chat, Coaching Carousel Speculation

In this live episode of the Buckeye Weekly Podcast, hosts Tony Gerdeman, Tom Orr, and Kevin Noon discuss the latest rankings reveal, discuss coaching carousel possibilities, the SEC getting booted from the playoffs for a Group of 6 team, and much more. The hosts also take a bunch of questions from the live stream viewers.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Gerdaman here as always with Tom or and since it
is Tuesday, here also with Kevin.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Noon.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
First, Tom, how's it.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Going, guys, Sorry we started a little late.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Kevin was late.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Sorry, it's Tony and I have been sitting here for
like an hour and then Kevin. Kevin just rolls in
like thirteen seconds ago. Sorry, guys, like a hot dog kind.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Of his mouth.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know how Kevin, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Glad you could make it well?

Speaker 4 (00:34):
I mean I was here early, and I have receipts
because I was chatting in the chats. We're getting started,
I promise, so, uh no, I'm glad to be here.
It'll be interesting to see how the committee tries to
justify the existence of the ACC and some other things.
Where does A and M go? Where does notre Dame go?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I mean, this is I'm more interested in this this
show tonight than I've been in the last.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Couple Good to know. Good to know. Maybe you'll be
more engaged with us as we tried. No, don't even
don't even try that. So yeah, there's there. There were
two losses in the top fifteen of last week's rankings,
of course, one being Texas A and M losing to

(01:20):
Texas the other one some of you may remember Ohio
State defeating Michigan, Michigan losing and Michigan's playoff hopes going
out the window for this year and perhaps the next
few years. Who's to say, really, And we'll find out
where everybody's ranked and what they think of you know,
what do they think of Lane Kiffin moving? Does that

(01:42):
impact Old miss in this at all? You know, they've
got to deal with that. We'll see how far Texas
A and M drops and see who is that new four?
Does everybody just move up one in Texas Tech? You're
Ford Georgia year three and I Indiana of your two
and ohist A year one? Probably? Uh, Tom, you said

(02:04):
there's been some speculation about where Texas A and M
will fall.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, some of Adam McClintock, who is I think it's
at CFP professor on Twitter. He does an analysis every
week where he kind of says like, here's the metrics
the committee uses, and here's where if you just are
using these metrics, here's where you would rank these teams.
And he's usually basically dead on just about every week
in advance, and he said, Texas A and M is

(02:29):
going to be around seven. Now, you know, are they six?
Are they eight? You know? Plus or plus or minus one?
Something like that is not yeah, not unrealistic. Remember when
Dick Clark was America's oldest teenager. Now it's Kevin Newton.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Uh, it is Kevin Noon's New Year's Rock and Eve.
I like it. I like it. We'll get Vin to
do New Year's Eve in Times Square. It sounds crappy,
Noon Noon Year's Eve.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Oh, just until I'm introducing Megan thee Stallion. That's the
artist name, right. I don't know who Megan the Stallion is.
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
What I love is when we have these shows and
it's like I know all the things we're going to
talk about, and it's like, Yep, we're gonna name check
Dick Clark, we're gonna name check Kathy Griffin, We're going
to name check Megan thee Stallion. We're going to be
three minutes and seventeen seconds in the show. Yeah, right
on track. Absolutely, we can start over. No, No, we're
too far. Let's just go, let's just keep going, just

(03:31):
keep going. Yeah, so anyway, so yes, Texas A and
M probably seven ish, which you know, then this is
kind of these are kind of low key important rankings
because based on last year, the teams that are in
the conference championship games are probably not going to drop
meaningfully as a result of their conference championship games unless

(03:53):
they just get absolutely smoked and the team and there
are a lot of teams that are done and their
resumes are more or less locked at this point. So
these these are like really important rankings for a lot
of teams like Alabama. You know, Alabama, are they going
to be able to get in if they lose a
close one to Georgia? Like tonight is the night you

(04:15):
might kind of find that out. Vanderbilt, where are they
going to be as compared to Texas? You know, there's
a lot of those kinds of things where teams right
on the periphery are going to be you know, this
may be the night that a lot of these teams
kind of figure out you're in or you're out, depending
on certain ways things could fall. On Saturday, if BYU
beats Texas Tech, well someone someone is losing a bit

(04:37):
at b Why you beats Texas Tech this weekend.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
For example, I was not on the conference call last week.
I haven't been on the last few because it's kind
of been no point. I think they said that Notre
Dame and Miami have now may have now been in
the same grouping, and they're still choosing to go with
Miami or Notre Dame over Miami despite the head to
head real quick on one of the questions that we

(04:59):
hear from Grover Cleveland, FSU lost a quarterback and they
got rolled by the CFP committee. The problem there is
there was two or three games of evidence, or two
or three games with a new quarterback. We don't know
what ole Miss looks like with a new head coach,
and so there's really nothing to go on. Ohio State
in twenty fourteen, there's a game of evidence to go on.

(05:21):
I don't know that you punish ole Miss too badly,
and frankly, even though it's into bylaws that they can
they can look at who's not there between, you know,
in terms of players missing, coaches missing, they can absolutely
look at that and factor that in. It's part of
the rules basically, and so right now ole Miss at

(05:44):
seven we shall see because that's this is all new
territory for all of us, Kevin, as we look at
the way coaching changes have happened in the factoring into
the rankings now.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
And it's a brave new world.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
It's a brave new world, and we'll have to kind
of see what what happens there. I mean, people are
trying to compare the FSU situation to Ole Miss, and
it's different in my opinion because the on field product
was completely different without the Florida State quarterback. And you know,
the guys that they had, they kept trotting out there,
just weren't able to do it. I mean, I understand

(06:21):
Lane Kiffin's gone, but Pete Golding the DC is the
is the permanent head coach or whatever. Charlie Weis junior
is still there, so you know, we'll we'll see. But
you know, Trinidad Chambliss is still there. I mean a
lot of the a lot of the I mean the
same the same players are there, so I see it
as patently different scenarios.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, it is interesting that Ole Miss is still the
lowest one lost team outside of BYU Tom.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, and this is that's one of those things that'll
be interesting to watch because As I said earlier, the
analytics guy thought that Texas A and M might fall
to seven. If they do, that would theoretically push Ole
Miss to six. So while they are just rolling right
into it, here we goes some number twenty five, James Madison,
number twenty four in North Texas. I haven't seen Duke yet,
so that tells me you are going to get two

(07:10):
group of five teams in if amazing Duke wins the
ACC Championship game, which is entirely possible. I mean, this
is how much of a wild overreaction do you get
the second to two group of five teams make it
and an ACC team doesn't, Like, that's gonna be that's
going to be like, you know how they used to

(07:31):
wildly overcorrect for everything in the BCS every year. That's
going to be like, we're going to be right back
to that this year. If if you if the ACC
gets left out.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, and I need to go back and looks because
we know the Big twelve didn't want automatic bids, like
four automatic bids in a sixteen team. I don't know
that ACC ACC was all for it either. You prefer this,
this is what you prefer being left out entirely as
opposed to four teams, and you're crazy. This is if

(08:05):
you miss out on the playoffs, you missed out on
the money, you miss out on the attention. And boy,
there are now three group of five teams in the
top twenty, Top twenty five. Now too Lane at twenty
mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, two Lane at twenty, Michigan at nineteen, Arizona eighteen,
Virginia seventeen, USC sixteen. I mean, Michigan only dropping four
spots is kind of that. That's impressive to me that there,
that they hung around there because they really I mean,
they got thumped pretty good. But that's only dropping four
spots is is interesting? It doesn't it really doesn't matter

(08:43):
very much outside of some resume stuff. But yeah, seven
spots this week.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, I'm going to hit the super chat really quick
before we get to putting graphics up on the screen.
Here in a second, Mike Farino with the super chat.
How's it going, guys. I think the main difference between
Sho w ole Miss is that Fshu was replaced with
another conference champion with an amazing resume, albeit a loss.
Ole Miss would be getting replaced by a much worse team.
I don't disagree with anything. Mike Farino said, thank you

(09:12):
for the Super Chat. I just think it all comes
down to the on field thing. And you lose your
quarterback who was mentioned in the Heisman race, and you
bring in guys that just really were not anywhere in
the same universe, and it was problematic.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
And now you've got Utah at fifteen, Vanderbilt at fourteen,
Texas at thirteen. So Texas jumps Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt beats beats
Tennessee convincingly and does not move up. Texas jumps three
spots over them because of the win over Texas A

(09:52):
and M. And that's you know that Vanderbilt is functionally
as soon as that pops up on the screen, Vanderbilt
is functionally done for the season. It's I don't having that.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, Texas having the win over Vanderbilt provides a little
bit of a stoppage there, even though they pick and choose.
I guess when they want to do the head heads.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, it's because twelve, because twelve is Miami. Miami. Also
no movie.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Kevin, you say the court that the Super Chat was
like a much worse team than Old Miss, the team
that you're looking at is right. There is probably Miami,
and I don't know that. I don't know that they're
much worse team. I think. I think Ole Miss is
plenty questionable in terms of their defense and things of
that nature. I think you put Miami and Old Miss

(10:42):
together and you might have a game in the forties where.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know, I don't try Google and I Carson Back
one bit.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I don't trust Chamblists at all either.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I don't know more I trust him more, I don't.
I agree.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
I agree that I wouldn't have either of them, you know,
babysitting my kids or anything like that. But I really
don't trust Carson Back.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, I mean either team. Either team's just a means
to an end for the playoffs. Like you know, you've
got to have a twelve team in there, So here
you go.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Notre Dame drops one spot behind Alabama. Notre Dame beating Stanford,
and Alabama beat a much more academically prestigious school in Auburn.
So that's why that's why the Tide jumps over the no.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Notre Dame at ten means if BYU wins the Big
Twelve Championship game, Notre Dame could be booted from the
playoffs because Texas Tech has probably done enough at this point.
If they're four, you'd be hard pressed to put them
all the way to eleventh with the loss in the
conference championship game, where hey, you're not supposed to be

(11:52):
punished if you've got like one loss or no losses.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, and then the interesting question becomes, Okay, if Alabama
loses to Georgia by three points, does Notre Dame jump
Alabama in that case where it's your in or you're out?
And then if Alabama loses to Georgia by thirty points,
does Notre Dame jump Alabama? And where is the line?
Because I think if they lose by thirty then you're dropping.

(12:16):
If you lose by three, you're probably not. But then
you know, this is the you know, the old Winston
Churchill line, like we've established what you are and now
we're just haggling over the price, Like what's the price
here for where Alabama jumps or Alabama falls below Notre Dame?
Because as you should, that is that is the cut
line here where if if BYU wins and I don't

(12:36):
think BYU is gonna win, but if BYU wins, that's
the cut line.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Mike Farino says should clarify much worse resume those losses
are bad for Miami.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Anytime you lose to an ACC team, it's bad. But
I do have people. I heard people in the radio
today saying Miami is clearly the best ACC team. It's like, well,
that's great and no, but what does that actually mean
and what good is it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
And and it is right now we are on the
very much on the way to just everyone sliding up Texas,
A and M right where they were projected to be
at number seven, Ole miss up to six. Uh so
this is this looks like we're it is just going
to be everyone takes one step forward and that's that's

(13:25):
more or less where you end.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Up t the world. From the state up north are
they have gone into hibernation. They're not going to bug us.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
For their helmet communications are out for some reason.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
They saw their shadow from the middle of the field
standing on the.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
M Oregon number five. And this is this is all
very much in line with last week. The four teams
left A Texas Tech, Georgia, Indiana, and Ohio State and
I would certainly expect MP Texas Tech at number four.
So there you go. Where again everyone just sort of
take one step up. Georgia number three, Indiana number two,

(14:05):
Ohio state number one. So I will get the graphic
updated real quickly and then we can we'll punch that
up in a minute.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I'm getting that, and so yeah, we are here, So
go ahead and throw your souper chats and your regular chats,
and we can talk Big ten championship game, we can
reminisce about the Michigan win, whatever you all want to do.
The show is as much yours as it is Tom's
and Kevin's.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
So remember, yes, leaving a black holes for eleven and
twelve of just conference champ number four and Conference Champ
number five.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
We're not even going to take a swing at it.
We're just going to put Conference Champ listed.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
And that's and that's what I'm doing right now because
I previously had had Notre Dame or had Miami in there,
but it's really not Miami. It's not gonna be Miami
because there's no basically no way Miami gets in at
this point. So I'm going to put the higher ranked team,
which right now, get ready to see the Virginia Cavaliers

(15:08):
on this graphic in just a second because the season it.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Has been, you might have to google that because I'm
sure you didn't have that prepared.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Please to please, It's not.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Like graphic up Mike Farina Ole Miss with no Lane
over A and m is surprising. I really thought they
would stay above Ole Miss given Lane leaving.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I just you can't.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
I have a huge problem if they would sit there
and and punish them for losing their head coach at
this point. I mean, especially as shady as Lane is,
Juice Kippen wasn't even his dog. How shady is that
the dog didn't live with them?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's that is wild, That is absolutely wild that you
had a he had a fake dog, a stunted dog.
Between him and Curb Street, Between him and kirkurb Street,
they have the average amount of dog ownership.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I think the thing with Lane is, you know at
some point you're going to lose something that you shouldn't,
so you know, why not just keep them where they
are and see what happens. Because they weren't going to
win it all anyway, but they had certainly done enough
to make it in. I have no problem with the
with them being where they are, and at this point

(16:24):
they are locked in. They're done, so they will be
we'll see where they like. There could still be some movement,
of course, but how much movement can there be outside
of the top six five or six they're inside outside that.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Well, just it really depends on how much the committee
wants to treat this weekend as you can't be you're
not gonna be punished for losing, Like how much do
they mean that this year? Because it doesn't. I mean,
if you know, one, and two, and three, and four,
and nine and eleven are playing in conference championship games

(17:07):
this weekend, so that's a lot of teams, but it's
not you know, outside of Alabama and BYU, I don't
know that anyone's really in danger of dropping out. Yeah,
so I yeah, I think this is going to be
a much more of a seating kind of thing and
less of a you know, there's a little bit of
who's in, who's out drama, but really, honestly, like the biggest,

(17:31):
the biggest dramatic game this weekend, really it's the SEC
And then does Alabama get walloped and fallout or does
does Duke do the darn thing and get them get
James Madison and Tulane or North Texas into the playoff
because because very clearly the committee ranking North Texas and

(17:53):
James Madison like those are not in there last week.
So that is a committee telling you these two teams
are ahead of Duke. They are ahead of Duke. Ay, attention, Duke,
they're ahead of Duke. You're not getting in. So you
know that is that sound you hear is Jim Phillips
getting on the phone to the officials for this weekend.
They're saying, listen, guys, we we may need some help.

(18:17):
So here we go. Yeah, we will get to it. Yes,
as Kevin said, we'll get to the super chats here
in a second. We'll just we'll just lay out these
the bracket right now as it sits number five Oregon
hosting number twelve, tu Lane number eight, Oklahoma hosting number nine,
Alabama number six, Ole Miss hosting number eleven Virginia and
number seven Texas A and M hosting number ten Notre Dame.

(18:39):
I think there's a real possibility that if noted, if
Alabama loses close, then you flip Alabama and Notre Dame
and then you avoid having a rematch of Texas A
and M Notre Dame, and you also avoid having two
SEC teams play each other in Oklahoma and Alabama. I
don't think Oklahoma and Texas A and M played this year.

(19:00):
I don't believe so, because Texas A and M kind
of didn't play anyone.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Right now, they played everybody in the bottom half.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, and Alabama played Oklahoma. So yeah, Alabama Texas A
name would be a new game. Notre Dame Oklahoma would
be a new game. So my that is my reckless speculation.
For next week, Alabama loses close and falls exactly one
spot below Notre Dame to coincidentally avoid some rematches.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
And as far as the group of five, so two
lane and North Texas played in the AAC Championship game.
That's at two lane, so loser of that is completely out.
The winner is probably in. And James Madison is playing
Troy in the Conference USA Fun Belt Championship Games Sun
Belt Conference Sun Belt Championship game. That's I that's they're in.

(19:50):
If duquins, I guess we should say at that point,
and boy, can Duke beat Virginia? Yes, anybody can beat Virginia.
That's the one thinking about the a CEC if you
consider things like that fun, and sometimes you do and
sometimes you don't. But that's gonna be one that people
are watching just to see the hilarity of all of this.

(20:15):
And also Virginia the playoffs wouldn't be bad. I mean
it'd be bad, but it's like, yeah, you know, it's
nice to see different teams out there.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, it would be It would actually be fun to see.
I mean, you're gonna see different teams in the playoffs here,
like you're you've got Tulane would be a different team,
Virginia would be a different team, James Madison be a
different team. North Texas to be a different team. I mean,
those are You're gonna have some new faces at the
bottom of the at the bottom of the bracket, which
is gonna be fun. I do think it's absolutely hilarious

(20:44):
that in college football, Duke is the lovable, scrappy underdog
and Virginia is the one with the high you know,
the relatively high flying offense and fun, you know, fun
style of play like this is not this is not
the ACC's prime brand, but this is a lot better
than the ACC's primary brand.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So you see the bracket that you've got there Oklahoma.
Alabama as as a Ohio State's next opponent in the
Rose Bowl, certainly some marque helmets. That would make for
an entertaining game either way. But it's gonna be fascinating

(21:27):
to see what happens to Alabama because Committee does not
want to punish them, so it's you know, like if
they lose, they'll be like, well, we dropped them one.
You know, we dropped them one spot, made them ten
and kept them in. So it's like, yeah, you get
you're getting punished for losing, but you're not being punished
by getting the boot entirely. But I do think you

(21:51):
better not lose badly, and especially to Georgia, which yeah,
they're number three. They shouldn't necessarily beat a very good
team bad Like, if you're a very good team, you
shouldn't be beaten by Georgia badly the way george has
played this year. But uh, you know, just be careful
if you're Alabama, That's what I'm gonna say. And then

(22:12):
you know, of course we'll all be watching the Big
twelve game as well. Super chat here from buck Eye
Swag Penn State whiffing on every coach they go after
and then getting them paid. Insert Brian Kelly recruit dancing meme.
How about Brian Kelly for that's what That's what it's
gonna be left with. They're gonna be left with like
Brian Kelly or Jonathan Smith.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Or did something happen with Kataki?

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Did that gonna stay at b YU. It appears that's
making that's making the rounds. They just to buck eye
Swag's point, he's gonna get a new deal with b YU.
So Penn State and some other programs out there getting
some coaches paid.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, the Crumble Cookie CEO had to step up and
uh help b YU out because b YU, as we know,
does not have very very much money in the university famously. Yeah,
Mike Frida with the super chest also on the game.
I posted this on the huddle earlier. This is the
first game since twenty nineteen that, at no point in
the fourth quarter was the game within the one score.

(23:15):
That's a good little tenbit. People forget that about the
twenty twenty one and twenty two and twenty three games
and twenty four games. They were at least the twenty
one and twenty two that they were complete blowouts. They
ended up being multi score games, but they were definitely
once score games in the fourth quarter. Jordan Kapler, supertech.
I heard Kevin say, oh, she used to play some

(23:35):
four D chests and hire Alex Grinch's defensive coordinator before
he boards the lane train. What could possibly go wrong?

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Kevin the Geppler's fos. He is always fos, full of.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Song, full of sunshine, full of sunshine.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
That's Jordan Kapler, that's it, full of sunshine.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Where is Alex Grinch these days? See me somewhere?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Is so at UCF.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
With Scott Frost?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah? UCF? How is UCF season going? I'm so glad
you asked? Uh not real Well, I haven't seen them
on this I haven't seen them on the the uh
the playoff show at all. They are currently sixty second
in the nation in scoring defense, which just tells me

(24:30):
scoring defense, cparrently, is not the total measure of a
of a team. Let's see if they are worse than measured.
Heart It sure doesn't. No Heart, No thirty six Then
in yards for play Boy, I think what I'm learning
is the Big twelve is not very good this year.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
No, it is not, Bill Evans, says Brian Hartline de
Penn State. We've we've gone back around to now where
we can start, you know, discuss these rumors again or
just the speculation again, because that was no longer a thing.
And it's like, well, Penn State's gonna find their guy eventually,
they know what they're doing. I was told, like, well,
you know it's somebody. It's gonna be in the playoffs.

(25:09):
So they're just waiting and you know, people are thinking, oh,
is it Calin de boor is now it's actually Colonie
Sataki the guy that may be in the playoffs and
they still couldn't get him. Man, if you fire your coach,
you better know you've got somebody waiting that or you
better know that you can get somebody. And I don't
know if they've miscalculated things, and they may still end

(25:31):
up with somebody of some note, but if if it
ends up just being well, we've always liked Terry Smith
the most. We always he got us to a Bowl game.
That's not something that we thought was possible. And here
we are and we're gonna go with him and had

(25:52):
to show our trust in him. We are giving him
a two year contract.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Uh. Mike Forreno says did you guys see that Corey
Dennis is apparently being talked about, at least on some
fan sites as a potential replacement for will Stein. Doubt
it happens, but that's hilarious to me. I mean, Corey
Dennis is the quarterbacks coach, right or is he the
OC at UNLV this year? Both both okay, And you
know he's if you're working for Dan Mullen, you know

(26:24):
you're running the Dan Mullen offense. This is not the
Corey Dennis offense. So and that's you know, that's no
swipe at Corey Dennis. That's just when when you're working
you know, when you're the nick defensive coordinator for Nick Saban,
guess what, you're not running your own stuff. You're running
the Nick Saban defense. Like it's when the head coaches
specializes in that side of the ball. You're kind of
doing what that guy wants to do. So yeah, that

(26:46):
would certainly, I mean, if he gets that gig, that
would be a great gig. I you know, this is
I would be a little surprised just with this being
his first year of calling plays and uh, you know,
doing it at UNLV.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
So yeah, they have the top scoring offense top total offense.
But again that's to be expected with Dan Mullen's offense,
and it's it's asking a lot for his assistance in
that realm to get the credit that everybody just gives
to him because that's the way it's always been and
that's this is what he does and it's expected, and

(27:22):
it's it's similar with Ryan Day's quarterbacks coach or offensive
coordinator with how much credit do you give him? Unless
you're Pete Carroll and you want to give the offensive
coordinator six million dollars for three years amount of credit.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Lisa Sims could coach? Says, could our coach be leaving
for the NFL in a few years, presumably Ryan Day
being the coach in question there. I gotta tell you,
Ryan Day has looked real happy and real relaxed the
last several times we've seen him inside the what He
Hayes Athletic Center. I think Ryan Day's life is going
pretty well right now. They have a you know, another

(27:57):
solid recruiting class. They are defending national championship champions that
just beat Michigan. If they handle Indiana on Saturday, then
they will have done the three team goals within the
calendar year twenty twenty five, and they have an opportunity
to potentially win the national championship in about a month
and a half. So I think there's not a whole

(28:20):
lot of pressure on Ryan Day right now. So you know,
right now, I would not put the odds of Ryan
Day leaving much higher than zero. But you know, I
mean a year or two from now, I am hesitant
to predict anything about college football more than about twelve
to eighteen months in the future, just because who knows
what the world is going to look like at that point.

(28:41):
But you know, right now, I have no reason to
think that Ryan Day is thinking about heading elsewhere.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
I mean, there's there's no way to predict a couple
of years from now. I mean, things change on a dime,
and it's just so hard to predict. And you know,
we don't see a lot of great translation of college
coaches to the pros and vice versa. I mean, it's
you know, it's pretty sparse the list of people that

(29:08):
have have have done anything, not even necessarily trying to
circle Urban Meyer and his disastrous half a minute with
the Jacksonville Jaguars but that didn't go well. I mean,
Ryan Day certainly had a pretty good seat to see
how all of that went down.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
I think that, you know.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
People see it as a natural progression. Well, you you
graduate from coaching in college and you go to the NFL.
While you know, there are people, you know, Nick Saban
did just fine, you know, staying in college for his
career or whatever. It's not a it's not you know,
this isn't going from NASCAR to F one or whatever.
So I don't, you know, I don't. I think it's

(29:47):
it's a fun talking point, but I don't. I don't
put anything behind it at this point. I mean, people
are going to keep that that narrative going, and that's fine.
That gives us something to talk about in the off season.
But I don't buy it.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think coaches are always just like everybody has to
climb this ladder and you have to take on the
new challenge. I think college football every year is a
new challenge, and like every year Ryan Dan has been
head coach, something is happening greatly massively in the sport.
And so after you handle all of that and you've

(30:25):
got things and the best spot of anybody in the nation,
is that really the time you're like I'm ready to leave.
You have worked so hard to manage these waters, these
troubled waters, and you've come out ahead of the game,
ahead of everybody else. He does want to be the
first Ohios the head coach to win back to back
national titles. I don't think that would be the point

(30:46):
of which you'd be like, I've accomplished my dreams. Now
I'm gonna go coach. Well, he can't go coach his
boyhood dream of the Patriots, because Mike Vrabel is going
to be there for presumably a long time. Maybe maybe
Jerry Jones comes in with a twenty million dollar offer
for you, like six years or something like some insane
thing where you're like, but in the NFL, you can

(31:11):
have two bad years and you're done.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well, you're functionally your own boss at this point at
Ohio State, you know, I mean, yes, ross by Orc
is the ad and yes Ted Carter's a president, and
I understand what the org chart looks like. But also,
if you've won the national championship in the previous year
and you're the number one team in the nation and
you have you know, you've got everything really rolling, like
your job security is as good as it possibly could be,

(31:35):
and you'd like to change that to have your fate
be in the hands of Jerry Jones. Like, I don't know,
he's not making seven dollars and thirty two cents an
hour at Ohio State, Like, is that worth the difference
between twelve million and twenty million a year? I would
say no, Like, I don't know what the marginal utility
of that extra eight million dollars a year is, but
I know what Jerry working for Jerry Jones is probably like.

(31:57):
And I don't think whatever that march utility is, I
don't think that that's probably worth it. Murphy Serafino says,
unpopular opinion, but Texas should probably be in if they
schedule a cupcake instead of a highest state they're in,
say give out a cool early season non conference games,
i e. Our home and home with Bama. I don't
know that that's necessarily true. I mean, they're they're a

(32:24):
couple spots out, but you know they're not They're not
like they're not being held as like this, you know
below all these you know, mid level three lost teams.
I get it, if you you know, I get it,
and I know that that was the talking point. But

(32:45):
I don't think you know, they jumped up what three
spots or something like that. I don't think they're going
to jump up They weren't going to jump up six spots.
Because I think that was that game. I think was
much more Texas A and M getting exposed than Texas.
I don't I don't think this is a I have
no problem with Texas getting in. If Texas got in,
I think that's fine. And I said this on Twitter

(33:06):
last Friday night and a bunch of people got upset
with me. But before you dig in too hard on
no three loss team should ever make the playoffs, take
a look at Ohio State's twenty twenty six regular season schedule.
Go ahead, I'll wait then come back and tell me no.
I think I'd be okay with Texas Texas being a
three loss team in the playoff. I wouldn't have a
problem with it. But as Kevin says here, Texas playing

(33:27):
Ohio State was not the issue. Texas losing to a
crappy Florida team is issue. Tech Florida finished what three
and nine, four and eight, four and eight. Yeah, don't
don't lose it. Their lesson is the same thing as
Miami don't lose to like teams like Florida is not terrible,
but they're I think they're like in the sixties and
sp plus. Don't lose that game and you're in and

(33:47):
don't lose the you know, if you're Miami, don't poop
your pants at home against a really not that impressive
Louisville team. Like that's it, that's all you have to do.
Don't poop your pants against Louisville and you're in and well,
you know, yeah, yeah, they'd be. I mean, we've had
this argument on the Pucke huddle board for three weeks now,
and I know there's people in the comments saying to

(34:09):
you know that saying that that it's outrageous that Texas
is behind or that Miami's behind Notre Dame. But don't
poop your pants against a bad team, Like I don't
have to tell you, Like Ohio State learned this lesson
in twenty seventeen. Ohio State learned this lesson in twenty eighteen.
Like this is this is not a new thing. Don't
poop your pants against a bad team.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
And Vanderbilt is proof that you can lose two games
in the SEC and still not make the playoffs. So
Texas losing two games in the SEC, I mean there is.
It's not like there was. This would be new ground
if they were held out of the playoffs if they
had not played Ohio State, they had played Sam Houston
State instead, Like, sure, they've got wins over Oklahoma and

(34:53):
things would look better. I don't like the idea of
I don't This is not punishing Tech for losing to
Ohio State. This is punishing, as you said, losing to
Florida and losing a third game, like once you start
getting outside of the agreed upon accepted bounds of playoff

(35:14):
them and that is two losses right now. Don't get
upset about your non conference sched schedule. Get upset about
not being able to maintain the competitive excellence that you
need to beat a team that would have won three
games had you beat them, but because they beat you,
they won four games, and you are one of their

(35:34):
four wins, and that's something that you can't come back from.
It's always the bad losses that do. Programs in Ohio
State had bad losses and fourteen playoffs and we're probably
some of the top four teams, but can't do it.
You can't have it, and that's the way it's always
been and I will continue to be that way. And

(35:57):
so there's auto bids all over the place.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well and just for people who don't remember, this was
not like, oh, Texas just got nipped right at the gun.
It was twenty nine to fourteen Florida after three quarters.
It was twenty nine fourteen Florida with five minutes left
in the game. Like this was not like, oh boy,
it was a real fluke and they just barely No,
they they lost. They lost. You know, they got out.

(36:22):
You know, total yardage is what it is, but they
got out gained by more than one hundred yards by Florida.
Like it was not This was not a like real
flukey loss. This was a yeah, sorry you lost, but
you lost. So I don't know what to tell you.
Don't give up ten point six yards per pass to
literally Florida. Don't get out rushed by two point three
yards per carry against literally Florida. Like sorry, you had

(36:46):
a bad day, but you picked a bad day to
have a bad day.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
And don't give up twenty one points in the fourth
quarter to Georgia.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
And to Mike Prino's point, you lose to an eight
loss team, you lose any right to complain about potentially
missing the playoffs. And again we always joked that SEC
losses are better than your wins, but that was that
was a bad loss, even by SEC standards. You just
can't you can't lose that game. And as people have
said in the comments, there were other games too along

(37:14):
the way. Sixteen thirteen win and overtime over Kentucky, forty
five thirty eight win over Mississippi State, and overtime three
point win against Vanderbilt. I mean that that law or
that you know, that was a win. But you know,
they they they they flew too close to the sun,
way too often. They flew way too close to the sun,
and then they got burned. And you know, I don't

(37:35):
have any problem with them missing the playoffs. I have
I mean, it's just and I don't have an issue
with Texas. It's not like it's like, well, good, you
know those sobs. I'm glad they're not getting in. I
just this iteration of the Longhorns team does not deserve
to be in. They just they they they found out,
they fa and they found.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Out well, and there's people there's a bunch of people
in the comments about you know, with how outrageous it
is that Notre Dame is in I mean Notre Dame's
Robert says, don't poop your pants against the bad team
unless you're Notre Dame. Notre Dame has a close loss
to number seven and a close loss to number twelve,
like they haven't Miami has two losses to teams that

(38:18):
are unranked, like it's this is not this is not
the same at all. And don't lose to unranked teams
like that is. That has been like a very consistent thing.
And you can like that or not like that, but
that has very consistently been the CFP rule motto whatever,

(38:38):
going back to the four team days, like it is,
just don't lose to four don't lose to unranked teams.
If you play close, competitive losses to teams that are
ranked in the top ten to fifteen, that tells everyone
this is a team that probably should be right ranked
right around the top ten or fifteen, because guess what,
they're playing competitive games against teams ranked right around here.

(39:00):
If those are your losses and you're beating a bunch
of other teams, then you belong up there. If you
are if you beat. You know, they beat Miami beat
Notre Dame by three points at home in week one.
The game was tied with ninety seconds left. You know,
this is not if Miami beat Notre Dame by thirty points,
that would be one thing. If Miami beat Notre Dame

(39:21):
two weeks ago, that would probably be weighed differently. It
was a game in week one, like literally August thirty first,
I believe, and it was a tie game with a
minute and a half left, and it was not you know,
Miami was a home was the home team, and Miami
was somewhat fortunate to win that game. Notre Dame then
had the ball with a chance to win and got

(39:43):
it out to you know, they were thirty yards from
field goal range at the end of the game. That
you know, thirty yards from field goal range in you
know three months ago that that's not the only deciding factor.
If you look at the human poles, Notre Dames Ahead.
If you look at the computer rankings, Notre Dames Ahead.
If you look at the advanced end palytical systems, Notre
Dames ahead. If you look at the committee the metrics
the Committee uses Notre Dame's basically ahead in all of

(40:05):
those two and it's like, yes, you have all of
these things on one hand, but on the other hand,
three points in the last minute four or whatever it
was three months ago in a home game for Miami,
which you know your home stadiums were three to four points. Like, yes,
as long as as long as you want to ignore
all of the other information that the committee uses to

(40:26):
make these decisions, then yes, it's very clearly should in Miami.
But it's not And I'm not like Notre Dame being
a bigger brand is not relevant, Like you're this is like,
this is the same thing that we've the same argument
we've had on our board, because there's people who are like,
it's like this very small sub section of people who
are like pounding the table because they absolutely hate Notre Dame.

(40:48):
We're absolutely love Miami. Like, let me be extraordinarily clear,
I don't care about either as teams one bit, Like
I have no horse in this race, and if they
put Miami in over Notre Dame, like my life would
go on and I would not care at all. I'm
not telling you that I'm emotionally involved in this and
notionally invested in this. I'm telling you human polls, computer polls,

(41:14):
advanced analytical systems, and the metrics the committee uses all
say it should be Notre Dame. I'm telling you that's
why it's Notre Dame. It's not like, I know everyone
has this wonderful conspiracy theory that well, the lucky the
leprechaun gets five extra secret bonus points from the community.
Like no, that's all the stuff they look at is
saying should be Notre Dame. And it lines up exactly
with what's on that on that graphic. The guy who

(41:37):
I was citing earlier, Adam McClintock, who had correctly nailed
exactly where Texas A and M was. He has he
publishes these it's like at CFB professor on Twitter. He
publishes these all these metrics every week, and it's like,
here's where they stack up, and here's where the committee
is going to rank these teams based on the metrics,
and Notre Dame's like three spots ahead of Miami there too.

(41:58):
It's because these are the criteria they use. Don't poop
your pants against Louisville. I'm very sorry about your pants,
and I'm very sorry about you. You're gonna miss the playoffs.
But like it is what it is, don't poop your
pants against Louisville.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
That loss to Texas A and M came down to
Texas A and M scoring I think with thirteen seconds
left to win by one. Since then, Notre Dame has
beaten one ranked team that is currently ranked. That was USC.
They've won every game by at least ten points. That
was USC. It's just there's not been a lot on
the schedule after that. But that's the case for a

(42:31):
lot of teams that aren't in the SEC. That's you're
only playing a couple of ranked teams and they've done enough.
They've been as I said, multiple scores in every game
since those first two games, where everybody is different than
they were back then. You know, everybody is different now
than they were back then.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Super Chat Mike Parino. Here's my stance on out of
conference games. Miami benefited greatly from the Notre Dame win.
Miami without the n D win, but the same losses
is out of the top twenty with the win and
one loss.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
They are in with no win and loss? Hey are
they are the same as BYU outside?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I don't. I think.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
No.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
I was just gonna say. I mean, there's a lot,
a lot to unpack there. I need the flow chart
and everything else to follow. In Miami without the Indie win,
but the same losses is out of the top twenty
with a loss. They're in with no win and one loss.
They're the same as BYU outside. I mean, I want
to see BYU make the playoffs. I really do. I

(43:30):
I just I want to. There's just something about that
team that I just like to watch them play. So
I'm hoping that somehow the the algebra works that way.
I know that's not the point that Mike Farino was
trying to make there with the super chat.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
But.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
You know, I I've already came out and shot my
shot to say that I don't.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
I don't. I don't like Carson Beck. I don't think
he's all that great, and.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
I'm not I'm not that I I'm perfectly fine with
Miami and getting chumped.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I think they're in with one loss even without a
Notre Dame win, just because they are a powerful program
that would have some wins against ranked teams or teams
that were ranked. And there are times where the committee says, well,
at the time they played Pittsburgh. They were in the
twenty two team, the twenty second team or what at
the time they played SMU. You know, we respect SMU.

(44:20):
We understand they've got four losses, but they're tough and
they'll find ways to justify putting teams where they want.
And you just look at this and the Big Twelve.
I think the lack of respect for the Big Twelve
is fine, frankly, and that's why you see BYU where
they are. I think there's more respect for the ACC

(44:40):
for now. We'll see how long that continues, though, I.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Think I have to read this with a very specific
dialect super Chap from particular Baptist but TOALM, Texas is
an SECA team. You have to look at the quality
and losses. If they ended Tennessee and Texas should be
in Baul.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I still go back to listening to the SEC show
on Serious x SIM a few weeks ago, a couple
weeks ago, when they're like, why doesn't the committee do hypotheticals,
and it's like, it's well, you make a good point,
because hypotheticals, as we know, that's where the SEC goes
to be undefeated, even against themselves. This is who would

(45:28):
win in a fight between Alabama and LSU. Why both
teams would win, thank you very much, Dave, would both
come out of that as one to oo teams champions
of their respective battle. Yes, why don't they do hypotheticals?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Mike Freno says that he doesn't think Miami gets in
is an at large only as a conference championship game winner,
same as BYU. This would be if they didn't play
Notre Dame. Yeah, and they only had one loss in conference.
Is there an eleven and one power conference team that's
not in the field right now? I don't think so.

(46:03):
I mean, I think that this is just just b YU.
Yeah yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Which is why he's lumped them together.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah yeah maybe.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I but why always played? They've got to win over
Utah A lost to by three scores to Texas Tech.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I guess in this in this world, Notre Dame also
doesn't have a loss in Miami because they didn't play.
So therefore, my Notre Dame is eleven and one and
Notre Dame is probably four spots higher if Notre Dame
plays Gardner Webb or somewhere someone like that there instead.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, and I think there. I still think they're in.
But you know, the acc being what it is, I
can see where he's coming from. But I think there's
just a level of there's more respect for Miami right

(47:02):
now because of the potential, the offensive potential there, because
we've seen I think we saw BYU exposed against Texas
Tech where they could not move the ball. They're Bachmar
he's you know, he's a tough freshman and he can
run the ball well against a good defense and a
multimillion dollar defensive line. The math on that kind of changes.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, And Mike says, Miami in this case would have
a bad loss and no ranks, no wins over a
top ranked team. I mean, yeah, I mean it's it's
because BYU has a win over Utah, right, Yes, because
their only loss was the Texas Tech. So yeah, so
at that point BYU has a better win. Yeah, And
you know you'd have to you honestly would have to
look at the metrics in this hypothetical world for game

(47:44):
control and stuff like that, so you know, it does
it's not necessarily. I absolutely see the point that Mike
is making, and I can't say that he's wrong, but it's, uh,
you know, it probably would be it would be close.
This was Kevin put this up earlier enough. This was
very interesting. Some lions for potential CFP first round matchups.

(48:04):
Alabama minus one and a half at Oklahoma Road favorite
there pick them, Texas A and M and Notre Dame
is a pick them Jmu at Oregon Oregon favored by
eighteen and a half. North Texas at Oregon Oregon favored
by nineteen and a half to Lane at Oregon twenty
four and a half. Virginia at ole Miss, Ole Miss

(48:25):
favored by thirteen and a half. North Texas at ole
Miss favored by thirteen to Lane at ole Miss favored
by eighteen. So North Texas would be a like basically
a pick, but like a tiny, tiny favorite against Virginia.
Right now, that's what a time to be alive. And
the wild thing is you have in this bracket. You

(48:48):
would have Lane has a coach on its way on
his way out the door, Ole Miss has a coach
out the door. If James Madison gets in, their coach
is on his way out the door, he's going. Bob
Chesney's going to UCLA. So you know you've got potentially
three if North Texas gets in instead of Tulane. Their

(49:10):
coach is on his way out of the door. He's
going to Morris is going to Oklahoma State.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
So yeah, you'd be with his quarterback.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Yeah yeah, boy. And you want to talk about Oklahoma
State potentially turning around in a big hurry that might
do it? So did you? And I don't know, like
Morris is the coach for it? And is it Eric Morris?

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Right?

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah, Eric Morris, the coach at North Texas is going
to Oklahoma State. People know about his quarterback this year,
who like never started in high school and is now
this incredible dynamo. He's also the guy who found John
Mattier at Washington State John Mattier now the quarterback of Oklahoma.
He's also the guy who found cam Ward at Incarnate

(49:51):
Ward and brought him to Washington State. Like you want
to talk about an absolute heater of finding quarterbacks, like
way off the map, he is, your dude.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
He is also if I recall a former Texas tech
wide receiver because that's where I yes, that's where I
remember him.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
He played for Mike Leach back in the day and
was pretty uh you know, typical slot receiver in that
in that offense, making some plays and probably a pretty
decent punt returner as well.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
M all right, particularly Baptist. This one, I'm gonna have
to do without the accent because I think this is
this is not nearly as a fine bomb coded. He's
take a chaos for you. B Yu wins, BAMA loses,
Duke wins, and JMU loses. So which conference champion gets in? Okay,

(50:45):
so BYU wins, Bama loses. So b Yu wins, Bama loses.
So BYU's in. How much does BAMA lose by? Did
they lose by thirty where they fall out and Notre
Dame stays in? Do they lose by three? Where Notre Dame?
It is probably the one that falls out. Duke wins,
JMU loses. So you're gonna have whoever the the American

(51:08):
champ is, whether it's Tulane or North Texas, It's not
gonna be Troy from the Sun Belt. I don't know where,
Like the Mountain West is, who's in the Mountain West
Championship game? Because I know is it U n L v?

Speaker 3 (51:27):
The Big Twelve? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:29):
No, I'm sorry UNLV in Boise State.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Rather, I'm I'm going to pull up. I'm pulling up Yeah,
I was pulling up SP plus because they don't we
don't know where the committee would have those teams ranked U,
N l V and SP plus, which is probably a
decent proxy for what the committee might do. Uh they
have they have UNLV forty first, Duke is fifty third.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, might be un l V.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
It might be UNLV man, Uh, North Texas in North
Texas sixteenth right now, USFS twenty third. It has to
be a conference champion, though, James Madison, it's not gonna
be I mean, it can't be a five loss Dukee

(52:25):
that would be. That would be I.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Mean, they're just I don't care. If you're a conference champion,
you're going to be like the ninth conference champion.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Man, you're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, it might be UNLV like that. It is possibility, yep.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
And they are playing at b YU or at Boise
State this U in this game. I don't know if
that's a coin flip or if that's a well. And
there are four teams in the Mountain West that had
six and two records this year, and the Boise State
gets the home game for I'm just looking to see

(53:01):
if they already played UNLV this year, and they did.
They beat them fifty six thirty one. So what a
way to exact revenge on Boise State and then go
and go to the playoffs and boy, and looking at
those lines and the ACC and the Big Twelve need

(53:23):
to step up. The playoffs are only supposed to have
one group of five and we're supposed to be you
know what, this is a favor. So you'll shut up
and you'll stop complaining, and you know you're not getting
your seat at the table. And now if you're throwing
two teams in there, and it reminds me of something
that Colin Cowhard once said many many years ago. He's

(53:44):
like talking about the end of the March madness, like
everybody loves Cinderella's until it's time for the Sweet sixteen
and you're looking at the matchups and you're like, well,
this sucks. It's everybody's favored by nineteen points. And that's
kind of what this looks like with with the Tulane
or North Texas as all of those coaches are leaving

(54:04):
to go do other things.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
The absolute funniest part of this is in this scenarios,
he laid it out either Notre Dame or Alabama one
or the other is missing out and UNLV or the

(54:27):
five lost duke is in the playoff. This is the
point in the conversation where I remind you that we
don't know what the format for the playoff is next year.
They just punted that that was supposed to be resolved.
I think today that was supposed to be done, and
they just punted it to after this season. So it
has to now be resolved. The new deadline is January

(54:47):
twenty first, I believe. Let me tell you how spicy
those conversations are going to get in terms of what
the future of the college football Playoff looks like if
Alabama or Notre Dame gets left left out for U
N l V I. Man, you know how they have
you know how the ACC has let you in the

(55:08):
replay center. I want I want cameras in the committee room.
I want cameras in the Alabama facility. I want cameras
in the Notre Dame facility. I want cameras in like
the you know, smokey back room booster bar in Tuscaloosa. Man,

(55:28):
I would pay irresponsible amount of money to reaction to
watch the reaction to Alabama gets left out for U NLV,
like I will not just hear my calendar to listen
to find them the day after that happens.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Not just you and LV, Mullen and mullins U n
l V. That would not go over well. No, so
now I want to see it now it has to.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Happen one hundred percent. Yeah, that's that is like James Madison,
you and LV or Alabama getting left out for James
Madison is funny enough, but Alabama getting left out for
I mean Alabama getting left out for Virginia is pretty funny.
But Alabama getting left out for James Madison or UNLV
is because then the ACC is also having an absolute

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aneurysm over things if their champ gets left out. Like, man,
this is going to be the most changed college football
playoff format ever, like all the crazy crap that Tony
Patiti's been throwing out. Yeah, just as like ludicrous trial balloons,
Like it's all gonna happen. It's going to be like
a twenty seventeen playoff next year, and everyone's going to
be guaranteed exactly six and a half spots.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Why twenty seven because twenty four just wasn't enough. You
needed three more just in case something like this would happen,
Just in case Notre Dame or Alabama would get booted out,
Like well, we've got a little bit of insurance. It's
basically like the bowling alley with the bumpers, just just
to make sure everybody makes it. We're gonna have some

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bumpers in the lley. No gutter balls for Alabama or
Notre Dame. Because here comes James Madison wants the ball.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
What's that a pair in twenty five spares, Yes.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Exactly pretty much. Do we have any questions that we
need to run through, you.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Know, just a couple of things that are not necessarily
super playoff related. Bill Evans asking Brian Hartline to Penn State,
I had a means like, I'm he's going to Kentucky
and then will Stein goes to Kentucky. You know, I
think Penn State certainly they they need to bring in
somebody who's more established, that has coached on the head

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coaching level, who has more, you know, a little bit
more time in the coaching game. So I don't I
don't see that. I mean, of course, Penn State insiders,
and by that I mean bloggers, not the people who
do this on the professional level. Are gonna throw a
lot of names out there. You throw fifty names out
up there, and one of your fifty hits, you're you're

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an expert because you you've got it right.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
But no, I don't see that.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Yeah what did?

Speaker 1 (58:09):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
I don't know that that's official yet, but that I
keep hearing that that's all.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
But die, I've read last night.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yeah, Bob Chess like and frankly Bob Chess. If I'm
Pat Kraft, I am on the phone to Bob Chesney
and I'm he is the dude I would be looking
at right now, like I I don't think, you know,
I think that it is safe to say that there
was probably at least a you know, some type of
contact between Penn State and someone in Brian Hartlin's camp

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at some point in this process, in at least a
like touching base kind of thing. I don't believe all
the nonsense about like, oh, he was in the facility
week before the No, but and and he's not. He
has never been considered a top candidate by any of
the credible Penn State media covering this search like it's

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he was a name on a list. He was. You know,
it sounds like an inconsideration for Kentucky as well. But
will Stein is a Kentucky person like he. You know,
I think he went to Louisville, but he's like a
Kentucky native, and so yeah, I know, I don't think.
I don't think there's any reasonable, reasonable likelihood that you know,
I mean, if they get thirty spots down their list, sure,

(59:20):
maybe it's possible, but I you know, I don't. I
don't think we're I don't think any that's anywhere close
to imminent.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Tom, please easy on the insults. Stop throwing around Kentucky
person like that. Uh, particularly Baptist.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
But from a particular Baptist. We're matter than away, Heyne, Paul.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Yeah, that would that'd be some good, good radio. That
would be some entertaining radio for a while. Mike Forrino
super Chat, what are your thoughts on Matty p mamt
Patricias staying around for another few years. He seems to
absolutely love it here and seems like an amazing fit.

(01:00:06):
I agree with all of that. We see it every Wednesday.
He's just he's we even saw it. Ohio State released
a video of the Michigan game pregame, during game, postgame
a little bit, and he's in there like in the
pregame locker room, saying, all right, everybody grabs somebody, you know,

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hug somebody, And they're all in this pregame huddle hugging
each other. And then you see him after the game.
He's hugging anybody he can find. I did not know
he was this much of a hugger. But he's a
great teacher, apparently a great hugger. The guys love him.
He seems to be having the time of his life
at this point. I would be really really surprised if

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he chose to leave after one year. How long can
they keep him? I don't know. He's got money. He
was an NFL head coach who got fired, so he's
got the millions and millions in the bank. He can
do whatever he wants. And I bet I wonder if
he's ever had this much fun in his life as
a coach.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Well, he certainly wasn't having this much fun in the NFL.
And he's got as you said, he has money. You know,
he's not like scraping together money and pulling money out
of the couch cushions to go pay for groceries every week,
and he's making decent money here, and he sure seems
like he's having a great time and he's really enjoying teaching.
And I don't you know, like chip Kelly last year,

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you knew last you knew chip Kelly wanted to get
back to the NFL, and chip Kelly got back to
the NFL. I just I thought coming in that Matt
Patricia was going to come in and be a one
year guy. And I have very much changed my mind
on that since he's been here. Is it possible, Sure,
it's possible that he ends up going somewhere else. You know,

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every indication we've gotten from him is that he is
having the absolute time of his life. You hear that
on the record, You hear that off the record, You
hear that from everyone around him. You can that is
the vibe you get from him. You look at the
results and it's like, yep, that's you know, No, they
haven't lost a game since he's been here. They haven't
given up more than sixteen points. You know, they give

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up twenty seven points and they lose a playoff game.
You know, who knows how happy everyone will be with
him at that point but right now he seems like
he's in a great spot. And frankly, if you're the
Ohio State defensive coordinator, you don't have to try and get,
you know, marginal incremental advantages with a roster that's two

(01:02:31):
percent better than the team you're playing. Like, you have
some incredible built in advantages for nine to ten games
on your schedule basically every year. So you know, that's
probably pretty fun to have r Vel Reese and Caleb
Downs and Cayden Curry and Sunny Styles and Davis Nigmnosen
and Jermaine Matthews and Kenyatta Jackson and Caden McDonald and

(01:02:53):
like on on and on and on and on. That's
probably pretty fun to have. Like number one versus number two,
Ohio State probably has signific get positional advantages in what
many how many positions like head to head Ohio State
defense versus Indiana offense. There are somewhere I'd probably go,
you know, push, but I think there's more than not.

(01:03:15):
They've got significant positional advantages this weekend in a number
one versus number two game. That's probably pretty fun as a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Coach, Kevin, you had the one up there from Jordan Kapler,
about Oh, yeah, there it is. I wanted you to
address this one. Looked like you had something to say.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
No, I was too busy talking about the cheese sticks
one about having to eat three hundred cheese sticks. I said,
I'd be dead if I did that. I or at
least I would not be able to have a movement
for like six months.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Some advices of American cheese. Who says no, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
It's a lot, but I think pretty much anybody can
eat like a pack of sixteen slices and be fine. Uh,
you could even eat it. You don't even have to
eat them as slices. You could eat him as a brick.
I'm sure you'd all be fine.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Oh lord, but Jordan Kpler, according to I, you beat
writers OSU just asn't up to snuff. They don't have
the historical pedigree like an indie or organ. Your thoughts
got to remember that Jordan Kapler likes to stir things
up a little bit. And I granted, I don't know
every I you beat writer. The couple I know I

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do like the ones I don't know. I don't have
an opinion of, but I know that I you fans
are kind of I've been hanging out on a couple
of the boards over in that community just to kind
of see what the what the temperature is. And they've
already won the damn game because you know they they
look at the transit of property and IU beat You know,

(01:04:53):
IU in Ohio State have played five common opponents this
year and IU has beating like four of them by
greater margins. So therefore, vis a vis Crown Indiana. They're
going to the Rose Bowl. And who cares what happens
to Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I'm guessing the Illinois game is doing a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
That yeah, And if we do have Indiana people watching
and or have Ohio State people watching, whoever wins this game,
you should go to the Rose Bowl. I am telling
you you should go to the Rose Bowl. If your
team goes to the Rose Bowl, you should go to
the Rose Bowl. I had I have a buddy of
mine who's in Indiana FN. I was texting with him
a little bit today and I said, Uh, if they win,

(01:05:32):
I am ordering you to go to the Rose Bowl.
I'm telling you you have to go to the Rose Bowl.
Like we we as a group, the three of us
have been to all six New Year's Day ball sites
over the last seven years, five of the six are like, yeah,
it's a nice game, you'll have fun. You should you know,
if you want to go, you should go. You're going
to if you if your team goes to the Rose
Bowl and you have the financial means to go to

(01:05:52):
the Rose Bowl, you should go to the Rose Bowl. Like,
you should go to the Rose Bowl. This is my
advice to you. And for goodness sakes, if you're an
Indiana fan, like, come on, this is your chance. You
should go to the Rose Bowl. Go to the Rose Bowl. Yeah,
well yeah, if your team doesn't win, then yes, then

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you then by all means you're excused. But if like,
if Indiana wins, you should go to the Rose Bowl.
If Ohio State wins and you're an Ohio State fan
and like you're like, well, I have the money, but maybe,
you know, maybe I'll save and maybe I'll try and
go to the Peach Bowl and make the semifinals, go
to the Rose Bowl, Like, go to the Rose Bowl,
go to the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Super Chat from Sewing Kreka Brian Hartline to Penn State.
They're getting desperate. I'm wondering at some point where we
see Matt Patricia's name thrown out there for for for
future possibilities or current possibilities. As we get to this
nice super chat from Murph, Seraph, you know what is
a hoosier? Can we have Kevin eat that? And I

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think the funny thing about what is a hoosier? There's
still a who's your somebody from Indianna, But they don't
know where it really like the thing came from maybe
a poem, but like before that, like what exactly, they
don't know where it derived from. And so sure, of course,

(01:07:15):
yes we can do.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
What they're known for there in Indiana. They there's the
deep ried pork tenderloin sandwich, which I would be all
about eating. There's the spicy shrimp cocktail. I'll eat the
cocktail sauce. I don't really care for shrimp, but you
know I would, I would, I would figure it out.
I just don't. I just don't like shrimp, but I would.
I would do it for our adoring fans. And then

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of course all sorts of delicious steakhouses, which of course.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
I would, I would, I would do.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
And those are those are the three things that that
are synonymous with Indiana overall. Uh and and uh food items.
I mean you know there are other places. I mean
you can go to Purdue and there's Triple X the
Burger place, not not an adult shop or anything like that.
At they have a peanut butter burger there, which shouldn't work,

(01:08:03):
but it actually does work pretty well. I don't I
don't need to do it again, but it's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
I don't know. I don't know what else. But no,
they're not no, no, no no, I'm already tired. I
already want to go lay down.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Good night. Moolks Murphy is like two more comments away
from getting to co host this show. Get out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
I will do out.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
People have been sitting there like you need to do
more shows noon. This is why I don't do more shows.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Everybody's taking on me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
It's it's an endearing thing. As you know, are we
are we good? Here's another one from Jordan Kapler list.
You would going to the Rosebows. If I spend all
my money on that, I won't be able to afford
to get Tony a new shi for Christmas. Well here's
the thing. The great thing about shi hats it's time.
You don't actually buy them, you just acquire them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Some other way, Tony, how do you get in New Jersey?
They follow of a.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Truck exactly who's to say? And so you have boom
there it's yours.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
I want to talk Troy v. There's a BFW and
Eastern India that makes the best pork tenderloin sandwiches, bigger
than the plate and tasty as heck. Yeah, people don't
think about that when, especially like in Indianapolis, the tender
pork tenderloin sandwich fantastic. I've gone to a couple of
places that would be definitely considered like locals only or whatever.
Just you know, you get a hotel somewhere that's not downtown.

(01:09:30):
You're not spending two hundred dollars a night staying downtown,
and you just want to go get a bite to eat.
Those those places are fantastic. I went to like this
Irish place and you don't think about a fried pork
tenderloin sandwich, and it was it was the size of
like a really large frisbee and it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
I guarantee you there's more than just one VFW in
Indianapolis that will make an amazing, amazing tenderloin sandwich.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
So no, this one's one those. Maybe you're an old cigarette,
so that's that helped narrow it down at all.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Yes, but you do. You will have to get buzzed
in and you might get some dirty looks for a
little bit. But they do have some nice food, good foods,
good bar foods, probably some peanuts as well, and some
poll tabs if you like to win some money. But
if you look like a cop, probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Are you an arc?

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
All right? Are we good? I think we've We've done
it as well as we can.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
We're joking before the show, whoa, this will be like
a forty minute show tops. We've got an hour ten.
We could probably do another hour ten, but you know,
save it. I mean, you guys have been doing God's
work putting up a lot of content or whatever, so
save your voice.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Thank you, Kevin, Thank you for thinking of us for
a change, and we will do that. We will save
our voices. And if you have not, you hit the
thumbs up. We would appreciate that of course. Continue to
find us at Buckeye huddle dot com. Thank you all
for tuning in. Thank you very much for the super chats,
regular chants, for hanging out with us on a Tuesday evening,
and we will talk to you all later