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Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Is she alive? Is she dead? We don't know. Savannah
gun Three's mom still missing, and we're gonna get to
that in a second. But here's something a lot of
the media is not covering. Trump did a big interview
with Tony Lamas yesterday, the ABC News guy, right, and
we're gonna go over some of that stuff he said,
because there's a lot of the Trumpian stuff in there.

(00:37):
One of the things I've said for years and years
and years about Donald Trump is he always wants to
look strong. He never wants to show any weakness at all.
He never wants to ever appear to back down, which
I absolutely admire. Times sometimes I think it's ridiculous and

(00:58):
I make fun of him. You guys understand that I
pick on everybody, and yet Trump is no different. After
that interview yesterday, and even Tony Lamis talked about it,
the minute they were done with the interview, Trump picked

(01:19):
up the phone and conalled Savannah Gunthrie and so we're
gonna do everything we can to try to get this
solved and get your mom back. You probably won't hear
that a lot of places. And while I do give
Trump crap, for a lot of things, and again rightly so.
I think he deserves a lot of crap. I think
there's a lot of stuff that drives me crazy, which

(01:41):
makes this even more infuriating. He's a complex cat. He
made that phone call and basically said all hands on deck.
What he should have said is we're gonna do everything
we can to make sure Cash Betel and Pam BONDI
are not going to be on this case. So you
guys have a chance. I'd rather have a Scooby doo

(02:01):
oh Chad. But I, as I say, I will give
him tons of credit where he deserves it, and I
will call bs when he doesn't. But this is something

(02:22):
he should be talked about more. I think he thinks
maybe it's a weakness. It's not. It shows strength, you know,
even for all the stuff that he does where he argues,
I can guarantee you he argues with Kaitlyn Collins. She
understands as much as he does that this is a
give and take in a battle that goes on. But

(02:44):
I can almost assure you if something happened, he'd be
the first cat to make that call say what do
we need to do? Do you need something? You know?
For all of these you know, all of these people
that he fights with. Okay, it's take away Jim Acosta,
but all these other people he fights with. You listen

(03:04):
to these reporters. I think it was Carl Rove said
he called them the night of the election, just expecting
to get his voicemail and say, hey, congratulations, you know,
mister president. And he picked up and he goes he
had a conversation with me for ten minutes. A guy
who he fights with a lot. That's who he is,

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and that's what infuriates me a lot of times. Speaking
of Savannah Guthrie, after the phone call, they were all together,
the family, and again there's stories about it. We talked
about it yesterday. The brother in law were learning moren
about him. But there was a they've done a pitch,
you know, like, you know, hey, where's our mom? Issue alive,

(03:47):
Proof of Life thinks of that nature and you could
see how just distraught she is.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
If you're listening, we need you to come home.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
We need to see.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, it's tough to watch because obviously you don't know
what's going on. The last everybody had heard was at
two am Sunday morning. There was the last ping of
her pacemaker. They said she still needs certain medications that
have even you know, not only just do it with

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her heart, but her getting around. And everybody course asked
the question, you know, was it the brother in law,
because that's a lot of people you're starting to hear yesterday.
I yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean some
of the stuff I was reading about him yesterday. It's like,
but again, we'll find all these things out. It's got
to be weird, right to potentially think that your sister's
husband could be the person that everybody's looking to. But

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as we all know, these things will ebb and flow,
and it's becoming a massive story globally. Savannah Guthriy was
supposed to be leading the Olympic coverage and obviously she's
not doing that, so trying to get her mom back,
and it's just such a weird story. I don't everybody's like,

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the first thing I thought of was a strong arm robbery, right,
like they came well that strong armor. It was a
robbery where they stunned that this lady was home and
they dead took her. But now it feels a little
bit more personal, that makes sense. Three two three five, three, eight,
twenty four to twenty three at Chad Benson Show. Is
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the other things. Yesterday, like I said, Trump did this
big interview Tony Lamas on ABC. They talked to a
lot of things, but immigration being a big one. Obviously,
what's going on in min Minneapolis, which is insane at times,
and I want to just paint the picture for you.

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Minneapolis has about one hundred and thirty thousand estimate people
here illegally one hundred and thirty thousand, okay, And I
get frustrated because of the performative nature of what we
see there, and it is performative in a lot of ways,
and unfortunately people have lost their lives. But I'm not

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talking about the per form of nature of the incidents
took place, but just everything that goes on almost seems
to be so surreal because there's no reason for it.
There isn't There's a lot of things that we should
be doing to look at immigration that we don't. That
we don't. But one of the things that Trump is

(06:37):
noticing again, he understands these things. And that's what drives
me crazy about so much of the insanity that goes
on out there with is like, you know, yesterday I
was talking to Jim Kennedy, our buddy from the Kennedyians
to the Public Policy Research, and it's like, somebody needs
to teach math. You know, you can't lower prescription prices

(06:57):
by like eight hundred percent, so you're paying mean how
to take the drug. But and again he puts munsterd
on stuff, and sometimes he does just outright lie and
all that stuff, but he also recognizes things. And one
of those things he recognizes is this isn't a good look.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Sir President, speaking of Minneapolis, what did you learn?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I learned that.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Maybe we can use a little bit of a softer touch,
but you still have to be tough. These are criminals.
We're dealing with, really hard criminals. But look, I've called
the people. I've called the governor.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
I've called the mayor, spoke to him, had great conversations
with him, and then I see them ranting and raving
out there literally as Zoco wasn't made.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, you know why because it's also performative from Mayor Fry,
who's got bigger things going on when it comes because
he's not running for reelection in Minneapolis. He wants an eyes,
a bigger prize in the political world. And Tim Walls,
who recognizes now he is out of the race. He's

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not running again, but he doesn't want to be a
person that becomes irrelevant. And so what performative? Performative? Performative,
that's what it is. It's all performative. And people have
lost their lives. Now yesterday they announced they're going to
do the draw down. Seven hundred people are going to
be leaving. There still leaves two thousand and like I said,

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they have one hundred and thirty thousand illegals there. Florida
one point six million estimate, Texas two point one million.
It's not the same again, performative. I want results, not performances.
Let me know what you think. Three two, three, five,

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three eight, twenty four, twenty three at Chadbenton Show, is
your ex, your Insta, Facebook, all that other stuff, the
Epstein stuff. The fallout is continuing. One of the things
that you know, I've said that this isn't going anywhere
anytime soon. People are not satisfied. The more that they
dig in, and I didn't think it was just gonna
be one weekend. They look and say oh, can't find

(09:06):
a thing. No, nobody's getting satisfied from a lot of
what they're hearing from the leaders, if you will. When
it comes to not just the Republicans, but the FBI cash, Buttel,
they've they've all dropped the ball. And now you're finding
out that there are as people dig deeper and deeper.

(09:26):
There are pictures, there's nudity of and all of this
stuff that's going on that should never have been out there.
The frustration level from people is very real. And the
embarrassment because who seems to be getting embarrassed outside of
Bill Gates and and former Prince Andrew. Not many. Yeah,

(09:49):
there's a few, but nothing like some of these young
women are getting embarrassed. And this is not over by
any stretch. Trump said yesterday, well, I don't want the Clinton's.
You know, I like Bill, he's a good guy. He
got impeached too. You know, he had a little fun
in the Oval office. I don't want to see him
dragged dragged up in front of everybody. It's not a

(10:11):
good look. It's not good. I like the guy. He's
a good guy. So not going anywhere anytime soon. And
I still think that if you think that not so much. Bill.
But if you think Hillary is going to go down
without trying to take a bunch of people with her,
you're fooling yourself or her her. You're a fooling yourself,

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no doubt about that. A lot of stuff to get today.
We've got to coming up at the bottom of the hour.
A guy who has written an awesome book about Johnny
Carson all right and his obsession with Johnny, and it
is an amazing book. He's talked to four hundred people
that work with Johnny that appeared on tonight show. We're
gonna get the scoop and some of the stuff is insane,

(10:56):
from when Johnny lied about having a certain disease yes
to almost getting killed by the mob and who had
to save him and how they had to go about
doing that. So many other good things on the way
as well, including an Olympic update which is straight ahead,
and yes, the Monk March. Where are the monks? We

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are underway already some issues not a shocker, talk about
that among other things. Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
You're listening to the Chad Vincy Show.

Speaker 7 (13:13):
The Olympics are underway.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, they started yesterday and let's just say it kind
of went how we thought it would.

Speaker 8 (13:37):
Go up them near with the lighting, but shoot the
stone down of the varming, so you need a little
bit of light. Maybe they should have head torches just
for occasionally.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's right, kids. The lights went out moments into the
beginning of curling.

Speaker 9 (13:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Still no word of out whether or not the Olympic
hockey rink is gonna be real. That's been one of
the big controversies. There's already been several controversies. We'll get
to the crotch controversy coming up in a second. I
said that it's a weird thing, but the hockey rink
and the hockey rink is called Milano Santa GULIAEI see

(14:21):
Ice Hockey Arena. It was supposed to have sixteen thousand
fans ready to be there and watch the game. It's
eleven eight hundred now. And remember, nobody's been in the
arena as far as watching stuff in the venue. Nobody's
been in there to play the dressing group. So there's
expecting there be more issues. Here's the crazy thing. It

(14:42):
is arguably, as far as you know, that gold medal game,
the hockey, the USA can that kind of stuff, that
is potentially the big thing right when you go to
the Olympics. For all the other stuff, that's the last
thing played is that gold medal game. They had no
Plan B. They had no Plan B. So if this

(15:04):
didn't work, there was no other place to play hockey.
Plan B, baby, Plan B. You gotta have a Plan
B just in case Plan A doesn't work. Now, the
French team skated there to the other day said it
was good. The NHL double check said the ice looks
pretty good. So we'll see what's gonna happen here. But yeah,

(15:25):
the Olympics, it's not off to the best start. I
will tell you that right now. By the way if
you do win a medal this year the most expensive
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Silver fourteen hundred bucks and they're gonna be handing out
a decent amount of it. It's not the same kind
of size medal wise as the Summer Olympics, because everybody
does the Summer alert the winter countries do the Summer Olympics.
There's not a lot of teams from Africa here, not

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a lot of South American teams here. Just putting that
out there now, I know what you're thinking, Chad. You
what was the groin thing you said? I actually didn't
say groin, I said crotch. Okay. And this is crazy.
So ski jumpers they're going to have microchips in their
grundle area. What because are you ready for the craziest

(16:32):
thing of all? I mean, you think this is? This
is what they're willing to do. Athletes they have been
injecting in their waners a thing called hyluronic acid. They've
also been stuffing clay in their in their draws and

(16:52):
it's weird, you think, why would they do that? Apparently,
all right, they get an advantage whereby they have to
wear a larger suit. The larger suit increases their lift
and reduces their descent rate due to a bigger wingspan.
Oh so, if you're thinking to yourself, decize matter, Apparently

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it does. And because of that, we're gonna micro chip you.
Happy Olympics three two, three, five, three, eight, twenty four
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and your instat Coming up, we're going to talk to
an author about a book he wrote about Johnny Carson
that's out right now. He interviewed four hundred people, and

(17:33):
he's gonna give us all of the ins and outs
of The Tonight Show and Johnny Carson. We'll do that
straight ahead, Chad Benson.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Show, Son, Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I like fun people, as you guys know, because I
don't take a lot of life seriously. And this guy
seems to be rather fun. And he's talking about and
you wrote a book about one of the coolest things
ever about Johnny Carson. It's a comic, he's an author.
Mark Malkoff joins the program and your book Love Johnny
Carson One obsession fans journey to find genius behind the legend.
First of all, you're a comic, so I mean obviously

(18:26):
Johnny was. He was it, even though you're a lot younger, right,
you know, But the reality is Johnny he was the king.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
He really was.

Speaker 10 (18:33):
I would sit down, I tuck to over four hundred people,
and comedians that debuted on the show would regularly cry
telling me how much it meant to go on his show,
and their lives would change. I mean, it was unbelievable,
the power of this one show.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
You know, you talk about the comedians, and before we
get into a lot of the other stuff, you were
First of all, getting booked, right, was one thing. And
then getting booked and being able to go on because
a lot of times you might get bumped, and it's true.
And then getting booked and you did, well, that's great,
but doing great, and then having Johnny go come on
over here to the couch that changes your world.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
It really did.

Speaker 10 (19:13):
I mean, it took someone like Jerry Seinfeld five appearances
to get called over to the couch where David Letterman
was called over his first time. It really dependent on
who the person was, but Johnny's approval was everything.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
If you were a young.

Speaker 10 (19:25):
Comic going on Curson a lot of times during the commercials,
he would give you suggestions on your material after the show,
just suggestions to punch up the jokes. I mean, he
was really hands on with comics. If he loved you,
if he liked you, he would nurture you. I mean,
Seinfeld was going on that show. He must have done
like fifty appearances something like that, and Letterman, after four months,

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was guest hosted in the show. Is an unknown that
had never been done on the Tonight Show before for
an unknown.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Which is just I mean, the approval like in the
comedy world, just Johnny, it changed. It changed your life.
It sets your life up right. Very few that went
on there you never heard from again. No, it changed.
This is your job, this is your career, this is
what you're gonna do.

Speaker 10 (20:10):
Comedians told me that they have two birthdays. Won their
actual birthday and second is their Carson debut. Now, some
people like Jay Leno, who I talked to for fifty
minutes for the book. Jay had the problem that Johnny
liked him too much and kept having him on too often,
and he ran out of material. So I think it
was maybe his fifth appearance with Carson. He bombed. He

(20:31):
had his material was just getting weaker and weaker, and
Johnny banned him for like seven years and he had
to get going David Letterman Show and got red hot,
and that's when Johnny had him back on and Jay
wisely said, I'll come back on, but I want a
guest hosted the show, and they gave him two test
shows to guest host, and he nailed it, and obviously

(20:53):
his life changed and he became took over for Johnny eventually.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Talking to Mark Malcoff is the author of a book,
Love Johnny Carson and it is an obsession of yours
and he talked to four hundred people. Johnny didn't you know.
I think a lot of people they only remember Johnny
wasn't the first host of the Tonight Show.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
They people don't remember even know what did he do
before the Tonight Show?

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Johnny Carson was a game show host. He was on ABC.

Speaker 10 (21:19):
There's a game show on who Do You Trust? Before
that he had a national show that ended after nine months.
It was canceled and we did a lot of TV
in radio, and he actually turned down the job several times.
Everybody told him, don't take the gig. The person before
him that had the show, Jack Parr, was so hot
and television was one of the biggest stars and no

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Everyone's like, there's nobody can.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Follow this guy.

Speaker 10 (21:43):
So it was really a shaky tenure. In the beginning,
there were rumors Johnny was going to get replaced. NBC
did not treat him great, so it was one of
those things. But eventually, after a couple of years, Johnny,
you know, within two years is breaking Judy Garland's record
in Las Vegas for attendance. I mean, he was unbelievable

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how he gained the public's trust and turned people into
superstars like Rodney Dangerfield. I mean, that was the show
that Rodney would go in. Most comedians did twenty five jokes.
Rodney when he went on to twenty five jokes at
the Curtain and then would sit down with Johnny and
do another twenty five killer jokes.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I mean, he was a powerhouse.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
There's also solations Suppo's to be real Johnny. Yeah, let's
do it. Let Johnny had some issues with the ladies,
and Johnny paid a lot of money for the ladies.

Speaker 10 (22:30):
It's true, Doc Severnson ed McMahon and Johnny were married
at least three to four times, the director of the
show as well. And yeah, they would make the divorce jokes.
Johnny would be going through a divorce and tell the
writers I don't want any of the divorce jokes, and
inevitably the writers would slit them in. Johnny would do
one and it would get such a big laugh that
Johnny felt, I have to keep doing them.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
This is what people want.

Speaker 10 (22:53):
But yeah, four times being married, it was really a
challenge for a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Did he work longer than he wanted to because he
continued to go, God it, I hope I don't outlive
all this.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
He actually loved it. I think he would have liked
to keep doing it.

Speaker 10 (23:07):
But this Saturday Night Live sketches portraying him just really
out of touch, kind of going a little c andile
got under his skin. He didn't want to be Bob Hope,
who he thought stuck around way too long, like Lucille Ball,
way past their prime. He wanted to be remembered for
his work when it was good, and to get out

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before he dipped. He went to see Frank Sinatra in
retirement and Sinatra just was missing words left and right
and it was a train wreck. And Johnny said, I
don't want to be this person, and I want to
be remembered for doing the best work. So he got
out when he did, and it's just everybody wanted him,
everybody missed him. And finally within the last two years

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when he left the show, he was still doing. He
did The Simpsons, the American Teacher Awards, Bob Hope's ninetieth birthday,
and the final appearance is he did not go on
Jay Lenos Tonight Show. He made a cameo and Day
Laderman's CBS show. They were in Los Angeles for a
week and that was when Johnny broke our hearts and
said goodbye.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
And that was the last time we saw.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Him talking to Malkoff. It's got a book out. It's
called Love Johnny Carson. One obsessive fans journey to find
genius behind the legend. Let's talk about Joan Rivers. That
was a big deal back in the day. That was
scuttle butt in Hollywood. That was well, I mean, it

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was insane. So what the hell happened? Because there's a
thousand stories out there of what happened, what really happened.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
The real story is.

Speaker 10 (24:39):
Joan Rivers was trying to be the best wife possible
and her husband was her manager, Edgar Rosenberg, and they
signed a deal with Fox, and Edgar said to Joan,
you cannot tell Johnny because john there will be unforeseen circumstances.
Barry Diller, who I got together with here in New York,
was the head of Fox at the time, and Diller
said to Joan, you owe him Johnny an obligation. You

(25:01):
need to tell him that you signed this contract two
and a half months prior I play. Dillar said, I
am in a poker game with Johnny. It's Steve Martin
and Chevy Chase, Carl Reyner, all these bills. You need
to tell Johnny, and she famously did not tell him.
And Johnny Van Efferman an NBC vice president, and it
just broke his heart that Rivers didn't go to him.
And then Rivers tried to take Johnny's prize producer Peter

(25:24):
le Sally to Fox. Johnny couldn't believe that every one
of Johnny's talent coordinators, all five, were offered double their
salary if they'd go over with Joan, and it was
just Johnny was baffled that that's how Rivers would do it,
and it did break his heart.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Talking to Mark Malkoff, He's got a new book out
the genius behind the legend Joan Rivers. That whole thing
broke his heart. Joey Gallo, the mobster and not just
a kind of mobster, a mobster mobster, one of the
most dangerous men in the mob world at the time,

(26:00):
wanted Johnny Carson dead, which you think, what, how the
hell did that Johnny Carson, what did he do? Tell
everybody's story about this, because I don't think people realize
how close this was to happening and what they had
to do and who they had to call in to
make sure that Johnny wasn't killed.

Speaker 10 (26:18):
This was nineteen seventy, when Gallo got out of prison
after ten years.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
He had just got it out. He was his girlfriend.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
They were at Jilly's, which was a watering hole saloon.
Frank Sinatra Country and Gallo went to the bathroom and
Carson had too much to drink with Ed McMahon and
Carson doesn't didn't remember it, but he went over to
this woman and did you know, touch her inappropriately? And
then Jilly Rizzos told Ed McMahon get Johnny the blank

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out a year, which they did. Gallo comes out and
finds out what happened with Carson did.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
To the wife.

Speaker 10 (26:49):
So Gallop put out a head on Johnny and it
was really really bad.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Two things happened.

Speaker 10 (26:54):
One, they got Frank Sinatra to intervene and sit down
with Gallo and said I need a favor, and Galla
said anything, you're Frank Sinatra, and he said, I need
you to leave Carson alone and gallow who got really upset,
but he said, tell Carson he only lives and breathes
because he knows Frank Sinatra.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
And then the other thing.

Speaker 10 (27:11):
Is NBC was still very nervous that there was going
to be a head on on Johnny, so to appease
the acting boss, who is Joe Colombo, NBC agreed to
do a positive story on Joe Colombo, another head of
the family of the Families in New York.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
They did a positive story on NBC News. I watched
this with my own eyes. The timeline all matches up.

Speaker 10 (27:31):
They did a positive story on Joe Gallo, and then
Johnny was his life was safe.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Talking to Mark Malcoff about his new book about Johnny Carson, Yeah,
that famous Johnny Carson, Uh, Mark, before we Let you go.
Johnny very much a man before his time. Was not
afraid to get a little work done so we could
look the part. But that wasn't one of the things

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she did back in the day. So Johnny did something
that is insane, and it's about getting work done and
then lying to everybody saying you had hepatitis to throw
the media off. Tell us that story, Chad.

Speaker 10 (28:17):
He was so competitive in nineteen seventy one, as I
mentioning it had all this competition. He's watching the four monitors.
At eleven thirty. He had a girlfriend who became wife
number three, and she convinced him stop dyeing your hair.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
So he stopped dyeing the hair. That hair was white.

Speaker 10 (28:32):
Now, his mom, Ruth back in Nebraska, said, Johnny, you
were looking so old. So what Carson did is he
faked hepatitis. He went in the hospital, said he had appatitis,
but he was getting cosmetic eye surgery from a very
famous plastic surgeon, Tom Rays, who was the plastic surgeon
to the stars. Johnny didn't realize when he claimed that

(28:52):
he had hepatitis that everybody at NBC would have to
get shots. So over two hundred people at NBC had
to get the The nbcniers had to administer these painful
shots into people's arms, gamma goblin shots, and Johnny was
horrified when he realized that it was too far gone
for him to say anything.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
So, yeah, he was getting the eye.

Speaker 10 (29:13):
Surgery and people were rubbing their arms in lots of pain.
There were even people at NBC Vice presidents that weren't
even around Johnny that to show their proximity to Johnny,
wanted the shot just so they could brag to their
friends that they knew Johnny Carson. So there were people
that wanted the shot, and all these guests that had
been on the show, like Tony Randall had to come
in and get the shot that they did not need.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
That is crazy love Johnny Carson. One obsessive fans journey
to find the genius behind the legend. Mark Malcoff, thanks
so much brother for coming on. I appreciate it, and
go buy the book and get it anyway right.

Speaker 10 (29:44):
Yes, Amazon, I did the audio book. It's unaudible anywhere
that you buy books. So thank you, Chud. This was
so much fun.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Appreciate it man, thanks so much.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
If you have a chance to check out that book,
it is absolutely er amazing, especially if you're into some
nostalgic like things like Johnny Cars, it's incredible. All right,
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Speaker 1 (31:21):
Deep States No Deep doo doo Eyeah, the Chat Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Where are they now? It's like Waldo, but it's different
because they're monks, So it's not like Waldo. Waldough Really,
I don't even know. Did he have a job. He
went to a lot of places. He did. He probably
walked just like these guys.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
As quickly as.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
You can snacked the pebble from my hand. When you
can take the pebble from my hand, it would be
time for you to be Now it's time for your
daily Monk. March update. Time for you to leave, all right.
The monks are on their way. Day one oh three
began a little earlier today. They are walking from ruth

(32:06):
thir Glenn. Is that what is ruther Glenn, Virginia. I'm
looking at you like you know, to Fredericksburg, which we've
all heard of via US one Highway. Their journey continues
for Virginia, one step at a time, and they're asking
everybody come on out tonight and visit them. I'm going
a big old night stop tonight. Their dog is with

(32:29):
them and they are anticipating, anticipating the twentieth is their
arrival in DC. One of the things that was great
yesterday they left. They stayed at the United the Rights Chapel,
United Methodist Church in ruther Glenn. I thought, that's awesome.

(32:52):
They are walking the walk, you know, as we'd say.
But if we talk about the religious side of stuff,
the journey they're making, it is incredible and it's for peace,
which is we need a lot more of them. We
need a lot more of that. So that's your Monk
March update. Go monks, go keep rocking, Go monks, go

(33:13):
keep rocking. You know it's interesting. I've got a lot
of text from from a lot of people that are
going out to see them and driving to see them,
and some of the people that have, especially you know
throughout the South East who you know, it's the Bible belt, right,
I mean, it's like the buckle and that A couple

(33:36):
of them who are my hardcore listeners locally, they went
and saw them because their friends were going to go
see them, and they said, you know, they're Christians, and
you know, they said, but it was just something that
was amazing to go out and see. And I'm like, yeah, yeah,
and I'll say this, and some people get pissed, you
know that Jesus will be like, yeah, they're doing you know,

(33:56):
they're walking for something, they're they're putting their belief in something,
and they're doing it for peace, which is great.

Speaker 10 (34:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
They're not anti war. I remember I read this autobiography
about Mother Teresa. She's a bit of a hard ass,
but you know what she said, never invite me to
your anti war march. You invite me to your peace march,
and I'll be there. But if you're gonna be anti war,
I ain't coming. And I thought, oh, look at you
you go, Carol. I didn't say that though, because I

(34:25):
didn't know her, I didn't meet her, but another person
who walked the walk for damn sure. Several of you've
reached out to me early in the show, which I like,
and I appreciate that, talking about how I brought up
Trump and what he did, the phone call and stuff
that he made earlier yesterday after he did an interview

(34:47):
with ABC, got on the phone immediately with Savannah Gunthrie,
whose mother is obviously missing, the NBC Today Show anchor,
and they're like, you know, thanks for bringing that up,
because you're always, you know, hate non Trump, and I
want to I don't hate Trump, first of all, I
don't hate any buddy. That's a lot of negativity, it's
tons of emotion, Its too much energy. I criticize because

(35:10):
I want him to succeed. And I see things that
I think on the ground floor of stuff, which is
the everyday person, that there's issues that are happening, that
he's making it tougher than he should. But when he
does good, I will always say this, I will call
it out and scream it from the top of the mountain.
And I think this was a good thing he did,

(35:30):
and he deserved credit for it. Three, two, three, five, three, eight,
twenty four to twenty three Act Chad Benson Show, cheer X,
Your Instant, You'd Sup and more. Already on The Chad
Benson Show. Coming up, hour number two of the program,
we're gonna talk a little bit about immigration. We're gonna
talk about the jobs numbers that came out. How do

(35:50):
those look? In a word, ugly? The culture war? Is
that a battle the Republicans need to be fighting? Is
that a battle they should be fighting? Like? They're missing
a lot of opportunities here to solidify themselves in the midterm.
We're gonna have some Super Bowl updates, including what kind

(36:12):
of security is going on there, among other things. If
you're missing the show, grab that podcast Our number two,
The Chat Benson Show, Straight Ahead.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
It's about the economy, stupid. Get your message across better
than you've been doing it. New jobs numbers today were ugly. Ugly,
I mean the kind of ugly that makes you go, oh,
somebody better check their pants. Really that sound like something
to say layoffs and these aren't the job numbers who

(37:13):
think go job numbers these are just about layoffs. Okay,
one hundred and nine thousand in January, but put that
in perspective, one hundred and eighteen percent higher than the
year before. Oh, two hundred and five percent higher from December,

(37:36):
and oh, by the way, the largest since two thousand
and nine. People are nervous, People are frustrated. They do
not want to hear how great everything is. What they
want is somebody who's going to be real with them.

(38:01):
What they want is the truth. And more and more
Republicans are coming out and being honest about it, and
more and more pundits are Carl Rove just a few
days ago talking about this as Trump writes this op
ad about how great the tariffs are and all these
kinds of things, which again, we we're the tariffs, We

(38:25):
are you and I we pay for it. And that
hasn't helped manufacturing. The numbers are ugly when it comes
to jobs loss when it comes to manufacturing. So that's
not doing what a lot of people thought it was
going to do or was being told that it was
going to do. But take all that away, it's this

(38:47):
one word, this evil word for the Republicans right now,
that was one that was damning for Biden affordability.

Speaker 11 (38:57):
Yeah, well, the problem is we need to go back
to essentials. Olivia put her finger on it. He's making
the same mistake Joe Biden made. Bidnomics is working. That
piece in the Wall Street Journal is the economy is great.
That's not what people feel. Last year we lost seventy
thousand manufacturing jobs. We lost one hundred and forty five
thousand blue collar jobs. There's a great deck put out

(39:19):
today by the Washington consultant and prognosticator Bruce Melman. Blue
collar consumer confidence is at a record low since nineteen
seventy six when they began asking the question. The top
twenty percent of the American population is responsible for seventy
five percent of the GDP. The bottom eighty percent is
responsible for twenty five percent of the GDP. The lower

(39:42):
income households are bearing a bigger burden of inflation because
of the things that they have to pay for, like
rent and utilities have risen.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Higher, higher, and they're going higher. Yeah. Yeah, gas prices
come down a little bit, that's great, But then you're
looking at natural gas, you're looking at at heating all,
you're looking at all these things that power certain areas
and parts of the country. You're seeing these things start
to rise. You're seeing electricity and stuff become more expensive.

(40:09):
Then you start adding on the fact that, yes, we're
talking still about how expensive rent is. People can't afford
to buy home. People are frustrated. It's the economy stupid
and telling them that things are great doesn't work. And
it's not even about a feeling. Karl Rove right. You
can feel like, oh, I feel like things aren't great.

(40:33):
Then you look at your account and go, well, nope, nope, nope.
Not only I feel like it, I know they're.

Speaker 11 (40:36):
Not back to essentials. Three things. Biden put us in
a deep hole. We're working hard to get it out.
Here's the success we've had so far, but we got
more to do. And what I've got to do is
ABCD not everything is hunky dory. It conflicts with what
you feel, get where people are, and where people are

(40:57):
is They're willing to accept that good things are happening.
They're willing to accept if he explains that what he's done,
but they want to hear. Most important of all, you know,
we're still in a bad place, and you've got more
things you want to get done.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Just be forward with them. You know, I living out
here in Nashville, we are going through a nightmare when
it comes to our energy and power issues in Nashville.
And the number one thing besides their piss poor planning

(41:34):
at Nashville Electric where half the homes didn't have power
and there are still people without power and people have
lost a lot of stuff. But the number one thing
besides the piss poor planning communication. They didn't communicate with
the people. They didn't and when they did, they took

(41:56):
no accountability or responsibility. They didn't stand up there and say,
we know things are tough, we're working on it, we
are sorry. We did not believe it was going to
be this bad. We did not plan the way we
should have. We are going to do everything to get
everything going. And being in front of there and talking
with the people. I've told you, guys, this a thousand times,
and I'll tell it to you a thousand more. If

(42:16):
you screw up and you're honest with the people and
you're making a real concerted effort to fix the problem,
more and more people are willing to give you the
benefit of the doubt at first. But when you tell
them and gaslight them and or ignore them. You know
what happens, They get frustrated and move on. And that's

(42:40):
what you're seeing here, and that's what you're seeing in
a lot of ways with what's happening with a lot
of supporters of Trump who maybe weren't fans of Trump, conservative,
a little bit, maybe left leaning at times, but willing
to give Trump the benefit of the doubt because they

(43:02):
wanted nothing to do with Kamala Harris. You've got the
Libertarians out there, the Independence who help push Trump over
the line, and now they feel like, oh, well, we're
a year into this and you're still talking about how
great everything is and we're still looking around going no,
it's not working that way. Messaging matters, and.

Speaker 12 (43:23):
The issue and the challenge for Republicans is, in a word, affordability.
It's not a hoax, it's real. And the public acknowledges
that fuel prices have come down since their highst a
few months ago, but they still look at housing, they
still look at healthcare, and they still look at food
and say I can't afford what I want and what

(43:44):
I need. And that for the Republicans to keep control,
which is very hard. History suggests that they've gotten a
ninety percent chance of losing control of the House. They
may keep the Senate just because of the seeds that
are up. If they want to keep control, they're going
to have to address this issue, and they're going to

(44:04):
have to do it in a way that's meaningful and
measurable so that the voters themselves feel that their quality
of life and their standard of living is improved today
from what it was a year ago. Otherwise, based on
what history tells us, in every off year election, the
party that's out of power comes back into power or
at least gains a lot more seats.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
And that's the way I feel they're going to gain
a lot more seats. The only thing that they have
going for them is how absolutely crappy the Democrats are.
That's the only thing going for them. The only thing
going for them is that the Democrats are at such
a low point and they can't get their crap together
because they lack common sense. And we always do this right.

(44:51):
You give them three choices. Two of them are amazing,
one of them's the worst choice you could ever make,
and they're like, we'll take that one. We'll take that one.
Messaging three two three, five, three, eight, twenty four to
twenty three atch had Benson shows your ex your Insta,
your YouTube and all the other things like and subscribe.
It really helps us out on the old YouTube. Savannah

(45:13):
Guthrie yesterday, the Today Show anchor, who is going to
be one of the big anchors at the Olympics back here.
Her brother joined with her yesterday. He's in the military.
He's a big time pilot. As they searched continually for
her mother, who was I'm thinking kidnapped, and of course

(45:40):
you know the mystery about who did it, how did
this happen? Trump reached out to her yesterday, so we're
doing everything we can. He even truthed about it, but
he called her first and said we're gonna do everything
possible to find your mom, which I thought was was
a great touch. This is her video from yesterday.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
If you're listening, we need you to come home.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
We missed you.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Our mom is our heart and our home. She's eighty
four years old. Her health, her heart is fracial, she
lives in constant pain. She is without any medicine. She
needs it to survive, she needs it not to suffer.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Still, the ransom is there a ransom. Isn't there a
ransom notes? They believe they are honing in on who
might have done it. Yesterday we're talking about the fact
that it could be our brother in law was kind
of one of the suspects. But again early in this
they found blood in the house. And now it's still

(46:52):
kind of this mystery. But she's eighty four, she got
a bad ticker. The last time the I guess the
app or whatever they have for her pacemaker pained was
two am on Sunday. So without her medicine, how long
does she last the stress that she must under? What

(47:15):
is that doing to her heart? And then of course
you started thinking about desperate men that have got nothing
to lose in the most dangerous people around, and are
are these people like, well, we got nothing to lose.
So if you know, nobody's getting out of this life again,

(47:35):
I don't know, it's just a This story is so
big that you know, the European countries are following this.
Theyre they I got texts and calls from my friends
who work for big European outlets about this going Hey,
what do you know what's going on? So we will
keep obviously abreast of this situation three two, three, five,
three eight, twenty four to twenty three. Atch hadvanted show

(47:57):
it's your ex your ensta Come. We're gonna talk a
little immigration. Tom Holman. Trump yesterday talked about what he'd
like to see kind of happen there in Minneapolis. Talk
a little bit about that, and also the culture war battle.
We're just talking about. It's the economy, stupid. Well, the
cultural war battle isn't going anywhere anytime soon. And it's

(48:20):
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Speaker 1 (49:50):
You're listening to the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Immigration Nation. You know, it's interesting when you talk about
immigration because you can't we're in such a crazy time
because you mention it, and the vocal people are the
only ones in the room anymore, because everybody else is
so frustrated because they see no common sense anywhere. I mean,

(50:18):
they see none, right, they see like we're going to
throw everybody out. And then on the other side of
it you have the wakaduos who are like, we need
to keep everybody here and a need to allow more
people here, and anybody else who tries to stop them,
you guys are just colonizers, right, Like, this's all the
crap you hear, and it is crap. Let's be honest.
What's going on in Minnesota is performative. It is if

(50:42):
you're going to break down where you're looking for the
most illegal aliens, right, undocumented migrants, unicorn catchers, whatever you
want to call them that makes you feel good, then
where are you going to be? What state has the most? Obviously, Chad,
it's Minnesota. Wrong, Minnesota has one hundred and thirty thousand.

(51:05):
Giver take okay, California has a lot. We've already seen
what happens, Eric in performative. Oh in Texas? Wait what yeah? Texas?
Texas has about two point one million. Oh and third
on the list Florida one point six million. Why why
is it only Illinois or New York or because it's

(51:29):
performative And that is frustrating because there is a job
to be done, but unfortunately in a time of anger,
because it sells, algorithm, because it helps sell that anger, right,
like they cambine the two. It's like, unfortunately, I hate
to use this analogy because it's so amazing. It's like

(51:50):
Gree's peanut butter cuffs, right, Chalcol's great, peanut Butter's great.
Put them together? Whoa algorithm anger that sells? And that's
the frustrating part. Trump yesterday talking about maybe a softer
Touchir President, speaking of Minneapolis, what did you learn?

Speaker 5 (52:08):
I learned that maybe we can use a little bit
of a softer touch, but you still have to be tough.
These are criminals. We're dealing with, really hard criminals.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
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Tweet at me two at Chad Benson Show, at your
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Speaker 5 (52:30):
But look, I've called the people, I've called the.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
Governor, I've called the mayor, spoke to them, had great
conversations with him, and then I see them ranting and
raving out there literally as Oko was in made.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Yeah, and why is that simple? Because they're performative as well,
and that should frustrate the hell out of all of us.
It should but a last Here we are and this
is what we deal with on a daily basis, and
this is why nothing gets done. What do you think?
And as I mentioned yesterday, the performativeness of the people
that are protesting Trump, who are out there protesting the

(53:04):
Ice people, so much of it is such an overreaction.
It is, and then the overreaction to the protesting becomes
what we see, which is the chaos in the streets
and then unfortunately people dying, which shouldn't happen. But I
go back and talk about Tom Homan as a perfect
example of somebody who, under President Obama was his deporter

(53:28):
in chief, got his stuff done for Obama. There wasn't cameras,
There wasn't people in the streets with blue hair talking
about how they need to get rid of him and
attacking Ice people. There wasn't that crazy lady we played yesterday.
He says she's willing to offer herself and her kids
just in case Ice come door to door like she's

(53:49):
and Frank and I remind everybody they didn't know they
were looking for an Frank. That's why it is so frustrating,
and that's why Unfortunately you look at this and realize
how much of this is performative with real life consequences,
though with real life consequences three two, three, five, three eight,
twenty four, twenty three at Chad Benson Show, is your ex,
your insta, your TikTok? Yeah, I'm on the TikTok? What

(54:12):
do you think of that? Kids, you're on TikTok. I'm
on TikTok. So just deal with it. This is the
Jad Benson Show, then Chad.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Benson Show, the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
The culture war is upon us. It's been upon us,
you know, as we're talking earlier about it's about the
economy stupid. One of the things that when all you know,
remember the ty goes to the runner. In politics in
today's world, ty goes to the not insane, or the

(55:04):
least the party that's not insane, which is at times
it's hard to say, Chad, which body's not insane? Thank you,
mister President. And the Republicans for a lot of their
wackiness and craziness, they're not insane like the left is.
And let's be real, both sides have their crazy, both

(55:26):
sides have their ridiculous overreaching lunacy. Okay, I'm not trying
to defend any of that. Okay, it's because there is right,
but for the average person. And I always think about
things from independence, right, because I'm an independent. I think
about things from Hey, I can see where you're coming from.

(55:50):
But that's not real. What helped Trump, and what I
said from the first time he ran, was the insane
way that the left had lost the plot from the
trans nightmare. And I'm not saying trans people are nightmares.

(56:11):
What I am saying is the agenda that pushed this
insanity on kids and turned them into experiments. Let's be real,
that's insane. A lot of what happened. And I'll tell
you firsthand how crazy some of that is, because I
have a seventeen year old that was pushed and prodded

(56:35):
and had issues and so yeah, I'm sitting here going no,
I mean, some of the stuff is just lunacy. And
I used to say this is why Trump right, When
you'd have somebody who's a doctor who's also a congress

(56:56):
person and they're saying, uh, what's the woman, They're like,
I couldn't. It's well, it's we know what it is.
This fear to say anything, the cancel culture, all of
that stuff changed a lot. And that's why Trump the
first time, COVID through everything wackiness, so you know whatever.

(57:18):
But then we got into the second time and Trump
swept in so many ways because why d I'd gotten
out of control, right, And I always say this is
why Trump, This is why Trump. And that's when things
are kind of even, right. If you're sitting there going, eh,

(57:40):
which party is better? Well, you know this one or
this one, and both of them are probably going to
jack up the the economy in some way, shape or form.
And they both say they care about us, but I'm
not quite sure. Uh but over here, you know, they
think if you got a wiener, they're a dude. And
over here they think, hey, you'd be a woman. You're
like what yeah? And oh, by the way, you can

(58:01):
start that at like four, that's insane. I remember talking
to Abigail Shreyer and she was I think at the
time she worked for the New York Times, and she
was the one who wrote the book about the trans
kids that got everybody all freaked out. And she was

(58:24):
a freelancer I think for the New York Times. But
you know, for her to take this on at a
time or a climate where you can't you know, how
dare you not address my pronouns? You should be fired.
It was fascinating, and I told her, let me tell
you when I think this thing really ends and people

(58:46):
start to feel it, And she goes, what do you think?
And I said, when they start losing their licenses and money,
that's when it's going to change. Earlier this week, there
was a civil suit that was won by a twenty
two year old girl who argued, Hey, you guys pushed

(59:12):
me through something that I should never have been pushed
through at lightning speed, and they gave her two million dollars.
The only person to cover this from top to bottom
was a guy by the name of Benjamin Ryan. He
worked for the Free Press, and he was there the
entire time, and he talked about the fact that she's

(59:33):
getting two million dollars, But when you hear her story
and how fast all of this happened while she was
fifteen years old, is insane.

Speaker 13 (59:45):
Well, it's hard to know exactly what they were thinking,
but what they were convinced by was that the psychologist
and the plastic surgeon didn't communicate well with one another.
And the Psychaldis in particular, was faulted for being sloppy
and essentially being rush in his care of this girl.
It was only about eleven months between the time where
she first socially transitioned at the age of fifteen and
a half and she ultimately had her breasts removed at

(01:00:07):
age sixteen and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Fifteen and a half having her breast removed at fifteen
and a half, not because she tests positive for the
gene and she's almost certain to get breast cancer and
all that kind of stuff, but because she was confused,
and she was pressured, and she was pushed into something,
and that is crazy, and the ramifications of this are massive.

Speaker 13 (01:00:32):
Well, I've certainly spoken with other litigators, other lawyers in
this field, and they do feel that this will embolden
others to join the field. Others have been waiting on
the sidelines. So there are about twenty seven other similar
cases that I've been able to tabulate. Some of them
run into statutes of limitations where there's a short period
of time after which you can file a lawsuit. But
there's one coming up in Missouri in August, and also

(01:00:56):
very big one Chloe Cold probably the most famous d transitioner.
Her trial against Kaiser Permanente will be in California in April.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
And that's going to be massive. That is, that's going
to be a huge shop because she's the one that's
been the most vocal, She's the one that's been out
there the most. And that's what I told Abigail Schreyer.
Things will change when it starts to cost them. And
I feel bad for some of these doctors because they're

(01:01:24):
put in a position where they're terrified that if they
don't affirm something that the crowd is going to come
for them and then they're going to get suspended and
their licenses get taken away. But they also know there
may be a reckoning down the road when this fifteen
year old soon to be sixteen year old realizes that
maybe this was a bit too much and then they

(01:01:46):
come back for me. So it's like is it now
or is it later that you pay the price. It
was very powerful.

Speaker 13 (01:01:54):
I think in particular, we've heard a lot about this
talk about suicide, about that these treatments and surgeries prevent suicide,
and to hear this mother to say that she was
opposed to the surgery from the start, that she was
browbeaten by the psychologists, in her words, and to ultimately
consenting even though she never wanted it. And then we
heard from doctor Lauren Scheckter, and he's the head of

(01:02:15):
gender affirming surgery at Rush University in Chicago, and he
said he's also, by the way, the president elect of
the World Professional Association for Transit or Health. And he
said that these surgeries are not suicide prevention. So that
was a very powerful moment.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
And we've talked about how many times have you heard
that story suicide prevention suicide? If not? What was it
that Elon Musk said when they were talking about his kid,
Would you rather have a dead daughter or a living son?
That was kind of the pitch made. Now I'm going
to walk you through. So we just heard how fast

(01:02:53):
this went? Right? How fast? So you got young, confused
adolescents who are dealing with things that in our day
and acts right, you know, the boomers and all that
kind of stuff, maybe in eating disorder, right, maybe cutting
acting out in ways like this, they're giving these kids

(01:03:15):
hormones from jump and sending them on their way, which
there's no long term right, like we don't have all
the long term data, because this phenomenon is really over
the last you know, several years taking place that you're
seeing this. But rather than address the issues of I

(01:03:35):
think this person's confused, and not just about gender, I
think about life. We need to have a serious conversation.
But instead it's like, here, you go have fun, let's
take your breast. Oh, so let's really look at it.
So that young lady, she's twenty two now, nine months

(01:03:57):
from the time that she wandered in there and started
talking about stuff that they gave her the drugs, to
the time you know her you know, the hormones, to
the time they took her breast nine months, what was
it like. Originally, let's get in the wayback machine. Originally,
when they did these surgeries, it was an ordeal. They

(01:04:21):
wanted to make sure that you knew what you were
getting into. They wanted to make sure, hey, you know
this ain't growing back, right, you get that right. They
wanted to make sure that you knew the how permanent
this was going to be, and they wanted to make
sure that you, most of all, were in your right mind.

(01:04:42):
So your initial consultation, so sixty seventies, eighties, even into
the early nineties. You go in and you see a
doctor and tell them this and they say, okay, you
need a psychological evaluation. Well, how long is that going
to take?

Speaker 10 (01:04:55):
It?

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Like an hour or two? Up to two years? Excuse me? Yeah,
And by the way, we're going to talk about gender dysphoria, depression, trauma, autism,
which hadn't been labeled, but there was that. And that's
a big deal too, because a lot of these kids
are on a spectrum homosexuality and of course psychosis and

(01:05:17):
personality disorder. That's probably going to take at least a
year and a half to two years, but on average
is right around two years. Sometimes went a little bit less,
sometimes a little bit longer then RLT real life ooh
tell us, yeah, one to two years, sometimes longer. Mandatory mandatory.

(01:05:41):
You had to live as the opposite sex, work, social life,
public identity. No surgery allowed without completing this phase, failure,
my job laws, distress, instability often meant disqualification. You had
to go through it as if you were already living
as that person. So what are we up to about?

(01:06:04):
Four years? Right, you don't even have hormones yet. Now
you get hormones two years minimum year, but on average,
about two began only after the successful RLT, closely monitored
by physicians. Doses were lower, more conservative hormones could be

(01:06:25):
paused to reverse if doubts arose, because it wasn't that
much like it is now. Then after that, so you're
looking at five to seven years, then surgery, not nine months. Fascinating,

(01:06:46):
absolutely fascinating. And to think that we've allowed this to
go on. So you're saying there's not trans people. No,
there's trans people. There's peopleople who believe it and have
gone through it and are happy. But there is an

(01:07:07):
abundance of young people that were confused, that were bullied,
that were pushed into and celebrated, and then when they
thought they were doing something wrong, it felt like this
wasn't right. They were ostracized because it became about the
activists and the push for that. It wasn't about their
well being and to win it all costs. You always

(01:07:29):
talk about the greed of quote unquote the corporations, Well
there's greed out there in the activist world as well.
To make sure that you understand that they're going to
get this done and they don't care what happens. Let
me know what you think three, two, three, five, three, eight,

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make you smile, may make you giggle a little bit,
which is always nice too. This is the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Welcome to Chat. No, not the country, the institution, the
Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
It's that ji of the day where we have a
bit of an education. Every day for me, I try
to learn something new and the gen Z and Alpha
generation are always saying they're throwing things out there, and
I go, what what does that mean? What does that mean?
Because I want to know I do, and then I
want to dazzle other millennials, gen zers and Alphas with

(01:10:19):
my vernacular and they think, ooh, your language skills are
very good, mister Benson. I'm like, I know, now it's
time for the urban word of the day. The young
have a vocabularity all their own, and we break it
down for you. It's called the urban word of the day. Okay.
So I saw this and I'm like, this is hilarious.

(01:10:42):
I heard one of the promotion assistants say this the
other day and I didn't know what they were talking about.
I thought they were talking about tailgating. And it's called
link gating. And you're like, what, So if you're online
right an hear you're on year on your scrolling through
your reels or whatever it is, and you'll go to
see who the person is and then you're like, I
wonder that is they'll put links in there because the

(01:11:05):
goal isn't just to get you to subscribe to their reels,
their TikTok or any of that stuff. What is their goal.
Their goal is to get you to go to their links.
Oh so you got to get behind that wall. So
when you hear somebody go, hey man, check out all
my stuff and go over there, and you know I've
got I've got all the links there, and you're like, oh,
I just can't you can't. No, no, you got to

(01:11:27):
go through the links. Right, So instead of doing that
thirst trap right or any of that stuff, it's link gating.
That's your urban word of the day. That was the
urban word of the day. Now, you know, oh LEAs
good to know. I say, several of you text and
we're just talking about the the transsanity of activists, not

(01:11:49):
the people themselves. And I will tell you right now,
some of you, you know the usual, you get one
or two tho you know you're the worst. No, I don't.
I don't hate trans me. I think there's a lot
of people out there that have probably benefited a lot
from it. But I do know there are a lot
of young people who have made rash decisions before their
brains are fully formed. And because of that, we're gonna

(01:12:10):
see more than a few of these lawsuits coming. Let
me know what you think. Three two, three, five three eight,
twenty four, twenty three. I love hearing from all of
you right here in the Chad Benson Show. All right,
coming up our number three of the program, we're gonna
talk some immigration. Cato Institute came out with a white paper. Well,
of course it's white. See settle down when to talk

(01:12:32):
about that. It's a very interesting thing as we talk
about immigration. You know me, I want to know the
truth is what they're saying true. We're gonna have to
find out what are they saying. Well, they're talking about
is there a financial win for the US or is
it a loss overall for the US. We've also got

(01:12:54):
so what's trending. We'll talk about some super Bowl stuff,
the super bowls coming, all that in so much more
straight ahead on our number three of the chat.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
This is the Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Immigration. Shall we break it down for real? I like
doing these I do you guys know. I like the
fact the fiction. I want the real skinny. Don't give
me your side of the story, Give me the whole story.
Paint me the whole picture. Could you imagine going to
see a movie and they decided to only put a

(01:13:58):
portion of the story in the movie and the other
parts they left out because they wanted to see the
movie in this way. So there would be dialogue, but
nobody would be answering back to that dialogue because it
might make that person look bad. How weird would that be?
Like this movie's offul And there's a lot of awful

(01:14:18):
movies out there, a lot of good ones as well,
but I'd digress. The reason I bring this up is
because the Cato Institute, So because I know what Cato
Institute is. They're, you know, big think tank, libertarian conservative
on the fiscal side of things, socially liberal, very much

(01:14:41):
into the liberty. Lot of skepticism pisses both parties off,
which normally I agree with one hundred and ten percent.
But they've got a massive study out about immigrants across
the board. Now, I being of set and somebody who

(01:15:01):
wants the whole story, he said to myself self as
I went through the god knows how many pages, ninety
some pages of it, and they're very excited about this
all over the interwebs day.

Speaker 9 (01:15:09):
Immigrants aren't sucking us dry. Every year, from nineteen ninety
four to twenty twenty three, immigrants paid more in taxes
than they received in benefits by a combined fourteen and
a half trillion dollars, reducing the deficits by one third
during that period.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Oh okay, oh okay, okay, is that true? Chat, You
know what, we should probably find out if this is
fact or fiction. Now it's time to play fact or fiction.
This is where we go deep inside of a story
and give you nothing but the facts and dismantle the fiction.
It's fact or fiction. All right, let's do it. So

(01:15:54):
you heard him there? The study not positive over a
thirty year period. Is that true? Yes, that is a
fact that It is true that it has been a
net positive over a thirty year period. So this is

(01:16:16):
from ninety four through twenty twenty three. They absolutely were
a positive. But and I'm gonna tell you what's missing.
Positive on the national level. Tell me more, sir. You see,

(01:16:38):
we don't live nationally. We live locally. We don't live nationally,
we live city, county, state. Oh yeah, So while it
is true on the national side of things they have
been a positive, we're really thinking to ourselves, let's break

(01:16:59):
it down even more. I like that. I like that thought. Now, first,
their whole thing was immigrants, undocumented and documented. When we're
talking about immigration and the battle that goes on with immigration,
we're not talking about legal or illegal. We're talking about

(01:17:23):
illegal immigration. That's the battle that's going on now. So
let's break that down further than what they're just going
which is this big blanket thing. And again they're talking
about the national level. Okay. First, on the national level,
in the thirty year period, tax revenue for immigrants was

(01:17:43):
twenty four point two trillion dollars. Government spending on immigrants
was thirteen point six giving a net surplus tax wise
of ten point six trillion, reduced borrowing cost by three
point nine trillion, total fiscal benefit almost fifteen trillion dollars. Okay, again,
look at it in a way where you're going, Okay,

(01:18:04):
wait a minute here, that sounds great, yes, but that's
all people that are immigrants, documented, undocumented, legal, illegal, however
you want to say. And that's on the national level.
So everything in there, white paper, some ninety some pages
is all that's all real. That's true. But let's actually

(01:18:27):
break it down where we remove legal immigration and talk
about what everybody really is talking about, which is illegal immigration,
and break it down in the way that matters. Oh,
so let's move away from all immigrants to just undocumented

(01:18:50):
illegal again, whatever you want to call it makes you
feel good. Is there a benefit there on the national level?
There is?

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
There is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
That is five to seven trillion over that thirty year,
So it's about half of what legal immigration is. But
I said that right, there is only a portion of
the story because they're looking at a macro micro. We

(01:19:25):
all live in the micro. We live in our city,
we live in our state. We feel it in a
much different way. So let's break that down. So fact
is legal and illegal immigration is a net positive financially
to the country. We understand that. How about at the
state level, and this is where it gets tricky because

(01:19:48):
certain states, in particular border states, pay a huge price
for immigration. So quick local snapshot per person emergency healthcare
on our it's two to four thousand a year K
through twelve, Education nine to fourteen thousand, housing in shelters,
six to twelve thousand, police and courts one and a

(01:20:08):
half to three k, infrastructure about one thousand. Total costs
anywhere between fifteen and thirty thousand, and local taxes paid
or only about three even if you keep it at
the fifteen thousand range and you're paying about two or
three thousand local taxes. As far as you've paid in there,
you're still negative anywhere between ten and twelve grand. In

(01:20:35):
the hospitals, in particular in Yuma, right, McCallen and a
lot of these places, they get stuck with bills that
are never funded. They're upside down. The local side of
stuff does not benefit the way that the national side does.
That's why it's weird when we talk about these debates,
because nobody wants to give you everything, and we do that. Now,

(01:20:59):
if you're going to break it down even more, we
can go sanctuary states versus non sanctuary states. Who do
you think pays more? Well, obviously these sanctuary states pay more,
and that's I mean, you'd be foolish not to think that.
And the numbers bear it out across the board, and
the numbers are broken down different too because sanctuary right,

(01:21:20):
So sanctuary states right, their budget constraints comes from housing
and trying to provide services. Non sanctuary it's more about enforcement.
So there's so many different things to go into this.
So when you see something, and this is why I
always say, dig deeper, ask for all of the stuff.

(01:21:41):
Be curious about what the other side says. Do I
think overall it's a net positive. I think overall it
is a net positive. And I think the lies about
all the crime and this, that and the other. I
think it is at times overblown by the rights and
at times underestimated by the left. Overblown because not everybody

(01:22:02):
is here is a killer and a criminal. But you
know what I mean, I would say it's always painting
the picture about these certain things that shouldn't be and
the left always likes thinking everybody's an angel, and they
forget that a lot of times crime perpetrated against people
that are undocumented never goes reported because they're afraid to
make the phone call. So there's plenty of things in

(01:22:23):
here that add up to it's ugly, it's messy, it's gray.
It's unfortunate that we don't have people who are serious
about handling business the way they should. But the truth
is not positive on the national side. In some states,

(01:22:44):
in particular border states, it's more of a strain than
people realize. So it depends how you're looking at it.
Micro macro, let me know what you think. Three two,
three twenty four to twenty three atch had Benson show
that is your ex your Insta, your YouTube and more

(01:23:06):
love hearing from all of you. And again, that's why
I get so frustrated with so much of the performativeness
and the battle that goes on. And as we've been
talking about immigration today, you go and look and you
say to yourself, Minneapolis has about one hundred and thirty
thousand people that are illegally in the country compared to

(01:23:28):
Texas two point one million. And the performativeness is in
the battle that goes on in Minneapolis and between the
mayor and the governor and Trump and the administration. And
on the other side, you look over there at two
point one million in Texas one point six in places
like Florida, and the strain on the economy, and they

(01:23:51):
tell you, this is why we're not happy about illegal immigration,
because of the strain on the local economy, both at
the state level and the city level. Trump earlier today,
I have to play this because it makes me smile
once again. He's talking about Heaven. I was just having fun.

(01:24:12):
I really think I probably should make it. I mean,
I'm not a perfect.

Speaker 5 (01:24:16):
Candiddy, but I did a hell of a lot of
good for perfect people, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
I really think I should make it. I mean, I
don't think you know, it's like I should. It makes
me laugh, it does. He's thinking about heaven. He's probably
thinking about could we put a big t on it?
What it'll look like. I should make it. I've been
pretty good. Like if you were to say, on a
scale of one to ten, right, five g five point

(01:24:46):
one gets you over the line. I'm about a five
to three. I think I'm good. I'm good. We'll see,
we'll see three two, three, three eight, twenty four to
twenty three.

Speaker 9 (01:24:53):
Atch.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
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Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
You're listening to the Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Now it's time to find out what's trending. What's trending?

Speaker 14 (01:26:37):
James Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia, Serene.

Speaker 7 (01:26:56):
What trap?

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Let's find out what's trending on the web of the
enter and that shall we? How do we start in
the magical world of eRx, which, as we know, marks
the spot Savannah Guthrie family pleading for their missing mom's safety,
turning point USA launching their Kid Rock halftime show. And

(01:27:22):
then there's a song that surfaced about that Kid Rocket
done this also causing controversy targeted immigration enforcement with local invites.
Trump was talking about that NBA trade deadline, Washington Post, Epstein,

(01:27:47):
Harden save Aca over to the Yahoo of Yahoo's NBA trades,
Nancy gun Three, Jeffrey Epstein, Yeah, they have How should
I say this, Jack the pooch with the Epstein stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Can we just be honest? The Winter Olympics kicked off yesterday.
I know it hasn't started as far as the quote
unquote opening ceremonies, but it's underway because as we talked earlier,
they have things they have to do based on team competitions.

(01:28:23):
Otherwise they're going to be playing the Olympics for months.
Oh good god, the Olympics. It was hilarious. If you
guys didn't see yesterday. Within the first five minutes of
the starting of the Olympics, the power went out. Just oh,
the Italians make me laugh. Finally over the magical world
of Google. Anthony Davis. Gavin McKenna, who is probably the

(01:28:47):
number one pick in the NHL draft. He's a freshman
for Penn State Hockey, has been charged with assault three two, three, five,
three eight, twenty four to twenty three. Acts had been
to show that is your ech, your Insta, your Facebook
and all the other stuff you miss any of the show.
Make sure you grab that podcast. We appreciate it. When
do that right here on the Chad Benson Show, Yes,

(01:29:10):
I know that's a hockey player. Did what but he
faces up the twenty years in prison. Channing Tatum in
the hospital hurt himself. Oh, Channing the giant phantom jellyfish.
You haven't seen that thing's huge? Well, the first time
they've seen it off the coast of Rientina. The Olympics,
like I said, they started yesterday and to say it,

(01:29:35):
it went off without a hitch would be lying. Because
this is the first competition, which is curling, which I
will be doing in the next couple days. I think
ours will go better, at least as far as the equipment.

Speaker 8 (01:29:50):
Boom near with the lighting and shoot the stone down
of the farming, so you need a little bit of light.
Maybe they should have head torches just for an occasion
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Yes, yeah, no way, Willie. Here we go. It's the
Norwegians to play. The world's looking at you, Italy come
on now. And the other big thing, and we touched
on it earlier, is as of yesterday, so the hockey
is supposed to start today and I think it's going
to but as of yesterday the rink wasn't even finished

(01:30:21):
and that was a big worry for the NHL players
and for all of these countries that were sending over
their stars. Is you guys don't even have the proper
equipment in the facility. So so far we're underway. We'll
see how it goes on day two, three, two, three, five, three, eight,
twenty four to twenty three at Chad bensa Cho's your

(01:30:42):
extrar instat YouTube and war coming up. We've got a
guy who wrote a book about Johnny Carson, and it's
an incredible book, little nostalgic. It is very interesting though,
the loves, the hates, and the chaos behind tonight show.
That's straight ahead Chad betsichov.

Speaker 15 (01:31:00):
A Chad Benson Show, The Chad Benson Show.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
I like fun people, as you guys know, because I
don't take a lot of life seriously. And this guy
seems to be rather fun. And he's talking about and
you wrote a book about one of the coolest things
ever about Johnny Carson. It's a comic, he's an author.
Mark Malkoff joins the program and your book Love Johnny Carson,
One obsession fans journey to find genius behind the legend.
First of all, you're a comic, so I mean obviously

(01:31:46):
Johnny was. He was it, even though you're a lot younger, right,
you know, But the reality is Johnny was. He was
the king.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
He really was.

Speaker 10 (01:31:54):
I would sit down and I talk to over four
hundred people, and comedians that debuted on the show would
regularly cry telling me how much it meant to go
on his show, and their lives would change. I mean,
it was unbelievable, the power of this one show.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
You know, you talk about the comedians, and before we
get into a lot of the other stuff, you were
first of all, getting booked right was one thing. And
then getting booked and being able to go on because
a lot of times you might get bumped and it's true.
And then getting booked and you did well, that's great.
But doing great, and then having Johnny go come on
over here to the couch. That changes your world.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
It really did.

Speaker 10 (01:32:33):
I mean it took someone like Jerry Seinfeld five appearances
to get called over to the couch, where David Letterman
was called over his first time. It really dependent on
who the person was, but Johnny's approval was everything.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
If you were a young.

Speaker 10 (01:32:45):
Comic, go in on Curson a lot of times during
the commercials, he would give you suggestions on your material
after the show, just suggestions to punch up the jokes.
I mean, he was really hands on with comics. If
he loved you, if he liked you, he would nurture you.
I mean, Seinfeld was going on that show. He must
have done like fifty appearances something like that, and Letterman,

(01:33:06):
after four months was guest hosting the show. Is an
unknown that had never been done on the Tonight Show
before for an unknown.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Which is just I mean the approval like in the
comedy world, just Johnny. It changed, It changed your life.
It sets your life up right. Very few that went
on there you never heard from again. No, it changed.
This is your job, this is your career, this is
what you're gonna do.

Speaker 10 (01:33:31):
Comedians told me that they have two birthdays. Won their
actual birthday and second is their Carson debut. Now, some
people like Jay Leno, who I talked to for fifty
minutes for the book. Jay had the problem that Johnny
liked him too much and kept having him on too often,
and he ran out of material. So I think it
was maybe his fifth appearance with Carson.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
He bombed.

Speaker 10 (01:33:52):
He had his material was just getting weaker and weaker,
and Johnny banned him for like seven years, and he
had to get going David Letterman Show and got red hot,
and that's when Johnny had him back on and Jay
wisely said, I'll come back on, but I want a
guest host of the show, and they gave him two
test shows the guest host, and he nailed it, and
obviously his life changed and he became took over for

(01:34:16):
Johnny eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Talking to Mark Malcoff is the author of a book
Love Johnny Carson, and it is an obsession of yours,
and he talked to four hundred people. Johnny didn't you know.
I think a lot of people they only remember Johnny
wasn't the first host of the Tonight Show.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
The people don't remember even know what did he do
before the Tonight Show?

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Johnny Carson was a game show host.

Speaker 10 (01:34:39):
He was on ABC. There's a game show on Who
Do You Trust? Before that, he had a national show
that ended after nine months. It was canceled, So we
did a lot of TV in radio, and he actually
turned down the job several times.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Everybody told him, don't take the gig.

Speaker 10 (01:34:54):
The person before him that had the show, Jack Parr,
was so hot and television was one of the biggest stars.
And know everyone's like, there's nobody can follow this guy.
So it was really a shaky tenure. In the beginning,
there were rumors Johnny was going to get replaced. NBC
did not treat him great, so it was one of
those things. But eventually, after a couple of years, Johnny,

(01:35:17):
you know, within two years is breaking Judy Garland's record
in Las Vegas for attendance. I mean, he was unbelievable
how he gained the public's trust and turned people into
superstars like Rodney Dangerfield. I mean, that was the show
that Rodney would go in. Most comedians did twenty five jokes.
Rodney when he went on to twenty five jokes at

(01:35:37):
the curtain, and then we'd sit down with Johnny and
do another twenty five killer jokes.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
I mean, he was a powerhouse.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
There's also solations su Let's be real, Johnny, Yeah, let's
do it. Let Johnny had some issues with the ladies,
and Johnny paid a lot of money for the ladies.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
It's true.

Speaker 10 (01:35:52):
Doc Severnson ed McMahon and Johnny were married at least
three to four times. The director of the show as well,
and do you They would make the divorce jokes. Johnny
would be going through a divorce and tell the writers
I don't want any of the divorce jokes, and inevitably
the writers would slit them in. Johnny would do one
and it would get such a big laugh that Johnny felt,
I have to keep doing them. This is what people want.

(01:36:14):
But yeah, four times being married. It was really a
challenge for a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Did he work longer than he wanted to because he
continued to go, God, I hope I don't outlive all this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
He actually loved it. I think he would have liked
to keep doing it.

Speaker 10 (01:36:27):
But this Saturday Night Live sketches portraying him just really
out of touch, kind of going a little c andile.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Got under his skin.

Speaker 10 (01:36:36):
He didn't want to be Bob Hope, who he thought
stuck around way too long, like Lucille Ball, way past
their prime. He wanted to be remembered for his work
when it was good, and to get out before he died.
He went to see Frank Sinatra in retirement and Sinatra
just was missing words left and right and it was

(01:36:56):
a train wreck. And Johnny said, I don't want to
be this per and I want to be a remembered
for doing the best work. So he got out when
he did, and it's just everybody wanted him, everybody missed him.
And finally is within the last two years when he
left the show, he was still doing. He did The Simpsons,
the American Teacher Awards, Bob Hope's ninetieth birthday, and the

(01:37:16):
final appearance is he did not go on Jay Lenos
Tonight Show. He made a cameo in Dave Laderman's CBS show.
They were in Los Angeles for a week and that
was when Johnny broke our hearts and said goodbye.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
And that was the last time we saw him.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Talking to Mark Malkoff. He's got a book out. It's
genius behind the legend. Let's talk about Joan Rivers. That
was a big deal back in the day. That was
scuttle butt in Hollywood. That was well, I mean it

(01:37:50):
was It was insane. So what the hell happened? Because
there's a thousand stories out there of what happened, What
really happened.

Speaker 10 (01:37:59):
The real story, Joan Rivers was trying to be the
best wife possible in Her husband was her manager, Edgar Rosenberg,
and they signed a deal with Fox, and Edgar said
to Joan, you cannot tell Johnny because john there will
be unforeseen circumstances. Barry Diller, who I got together with
here in New York, was the head of Fox at
the time, and Diller said to Joan, you owe him

(01:38:20):
a Johnny and obligation. You need to tell him that
you signed this contract two and a half months prior.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
I play. Diller said, I am in a poker game
with Johnny.

Speaker 10 (01:38:29):
It's Steve Martin, Chevy Chase, Carl Renner, all these bills
you need to tell Johnny, and she famously did not
tell him and Johnny Van efferm an NBC vice president,
and it just broke his heart that Rivers didn't go
to him. And then Rivers tried to take Johnny's prize
producer Peterlesally to Fox.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
Johnny couldn't believe that every one of Johnny's.

Speaker 10 (01:38:48):
Talent coordinators, all five, were offered double their salary if
they'd go over with Joan, and it was just Johnny
was baffled that that's how Rivers would do it, and
it did break his heart.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
Talking to a Mark Malkoff, He's got a new book
out called Love Johnny Carson, One obsessive fans journey to
find the genius behind the legend Joan Rivers. That whole
thing broke his heart. Joey Gallo, the mobster, and not
just a kind of mobster, a mobster mobster, one of
the most dangerous men in the mob world at the time,

(01:39:20):
wanted Johnny Carson dead, which you think, what, how the
hell did that Johnny Carson? What did he do? Tell
everybody the story about this, because I don't think people
realize how close this was to happening and what they
had to do and who they had to call in
to make sure that Johnny wasn't killed.

Speaker 10 (01:39:38):
This was nineteen seventy when Gallo got out of prison
after ten years. He had just got an ad he
was his girlfriend. They were at Jilly's, which was a
wateringhold saloon Frank Sinatra country and Gallo went to the
bathroom and Carson had too much to drink. He was
with Ed McMahon and Carson doesn't didn't remember it, but
he went over to this woman and did you know,

(01:40:00):
touched her inappropriately? And then Jilly Rizzos told Ed McMahon
get Johnny the blank out a year, which they did.
Gallo comes out and finds out what happened with Carson
did to the wife. So Galla put out a head
on Johnny and it was really really bad.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Two things happened.

Speaker 10 (01:40:15):
One, they got Frank Sinatra to intervene and sit down
with Gallo and said I need a favor, and Gallo
said anything you're Frank Sinatra, and he said, I need
you to leave Carson alone and Gallow who got really upset,
but he said, tell Carson he only lives and breathes
because he knows Frank Sinatra. And then the other thing
is NBC was still very nervous that there was going
to be a hit on on Johnny. So to appease

(01:40:36):
the acting boss, who is Joe Colombo, NBC agreed to
do a positive story on Joe Colombo, another head of
the family of the Families in New York. They did
a positive story on NBC News. I watched this with
my own eyes. The timeline all matches up. They did
a positive story on Joe Gallo, and then Johnny was
his life was safe.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Talking to Mark Malkoff about his new book about Johnny Carson, Yeah,
that famous Johnny Carson, uh Mark, before we let you go.
Johnny very much a man before his time, was not
afraid to get a little work done so we could
look the part. But that wasn't one of the things

(01:41:21):
she did back in the day. So Johnny did something
that is insane, and it's about getting work done and
then lying to everybody saying you had hepatitis to throw
the media off.

Speaker 10 (01:41:35):
Tell us that story, Chad, he was so competitive in
nineteen seventy one, as I'm mentioning it at all, this competition,
he's watching the four monitors.

Speaker 3 (01:41:43):
At eleven thirty.

Speaker 10 (01:41:45):
He had a girlfriend who became wife number three, and
she convinced him stop dyeing your hair.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
So he stopp dying the hair. The hair was white. Now.
His mom, Ruth back in Nebraska, said, Johnny, you were
looking so old. So what Carson did is he faked hepatitis.
He went in the hospital, said he had appatitis, but
he was getting cosmetic eye surgery from a very famous
plastic surgeon, Tom Race, who was the plastic surgeon to
the stars. Johnny didn't realize when he claimed that he

(01:42:13):
had hepatitis that everybody at NBC would have to get shots.
So over two hundred people at NBC had to get
the nbcners had to administer these painful shots into people's arms,
gamma goblin shots, and Johnny was horrified when he realized
that it was too far gone for him to say anything.

Speaker 10 (01:42:31):
So, yeah, he was getting the eye surgery and people
were rubbing their arms in lots of pain.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
There were even people at NBC Vice.

Speaker 10 (01:42:38):
Presidents that weren't even around Johnny that to show their
proximity to Johnny wanted the shot just so they could
brag to their friends that they knew Johnny Carson. So
there were people that wanted the shot in all these
guests that had been on the show, like Tony Randall
had to come in and get the shot that they
did not need.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
That is crazy love Johnny Carson. One obsessive fans journey
to find the genius behind the legend. Mark Malcoff, thanks
so much, brother for coming on. I appreciate it, and
go buy the book and get it anyway right.

Speaker 10 (01:43:05):
Yes, Amazon, I did the audio book. It's unaudible anywhere
that you buy books.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
So thank you, Chad. This was so much fun.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
Appreciate it. Man, thanks so much.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Irreverence, Like, yeah, so what it's the chat Ventson show.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
Got the super Bowl this weekend? Obviously the big Game,
super Bowl? I could say because I'm not selling anything.
It is the super Bowl, so you always wonder about that. Really,
can I have to say the Big Game? Is that
what I have to say? Or can I I say
super Bowl? No? I can say Superowl because I'm not
selling anything. Okay, cool? And you got the Olympics, you
can say the Olympics. Right, we're talking about it earlier

(01:45:08):
in the Olympics. The Olympics, And first of all, it's
already been a bit of a nightmare, right. We made
fun of the fact that the lights went out and
all this kind of stuff. It's no matter if no
matter how long they gave him to prepare. For whatever reason,
the Italians decided they were going to start getting ready
about a week before, and the hockey rink was supposed
to be sixteen thousand fans, it's eleven eight hundred up

(01:45:32):
until the other day. They didn't know if they were
going to finish. They had no plan b. So all
that stuff. But the other thing that is happening this
is again so wacky and shows you what people are
willing to do to get over the hump and to
win something. The ski jumpers have to have a microchip

(01:45:54):
down below. Oh what, Yeah, they have have a microchip
in the Grundolin area. And the reason is they've been
cheating by injecting their waners with stuff that makes everything tight,
so they have to get a bigger jumpsuit. A bigger

(01:46:17):
jumpsuit for them allows them to essentially become more wingsuited
and gives them more air, which allows them to float longer.
So they're checking to see if they have added potentially
every man's dream or if they're also putting clay and

(01:46:38):
stuff in there to again make it seem like I
need a bigger jumpsuit. Oh, the Olympics kids. People are
willing to do anything. Super Bowl this weekend. Trump, I
did the super Bowl interview.

Speaker 6 (01:46:50):
Sir, are you going to relieve Christine om of her duties?

Speaker 5 (01:46:55):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:46:57):
Oh, I said, why would I do that?

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
That's right, he is doing a super Bowl. Remember when
Biden didn't do the super Bowl interview? Remember that that
was like that right there? I told everybody, how telling
is that? Because you know how easy they were going
to be with him, and they didn't do He didn't
do that interview, which was crazy, just fascinating that he
did not do that. That was another Taeil tale sign
that dude was done. Let's talk a bit about the

(01:47:22):
Super Bowl really quick, because there's a scurity and it's huge.

Speaker 16 (01:47:27):
I boarded a jobber and headed high in the sky
with federal agents keeping the Super Bowl safe. I'm getting
a bird's eye view of Levi's Stadium in a helicopter
with Air Marine Operations. On game day, there will be
a ten mile no fly zone over this entire area
and Blackhawk and a Star helicopters will be patrolling looking

(01:47:49):
for any suspicious activity.

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
That includes drones.

Speaker 16 (01:47:53):
The FAA and FBI have decleared the stadium a no
drone zone.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
It's a no drone zone. Lots of agencies are participating, local, state,
national level. Because the center of the universe, at least
on Sunday is in San Francisco.

Speaker 16 (01:48:13):
The Coast Guard will also be watching over the game
from the sea.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
They're going to be patrolling the waterfront on a daily basis,
twenty four hours a day for the entire week. They
actually started patrolling as early as last Monday. Bomb sniffing
dogs will be on patrol.

Speaker 16 (01:48:26):
This Canine's best warns do not pet security is extra tight.
More than fifty federal, state and local law enforcement organizations
will be on hand.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
It's going to be massive. I'm going to give you
my pick tomorrow. I have a lot of other fun
super Bowl stuff tomorrow, but it is tight when it
comes to security out there, and for a reason, because
the world is watching, and because things like that are
a target. Three two, three, five, three eight, twenty four
to twenty three at Chad Benson Show, Jures, your Insta,
YouTube and all the other things right here on the

(01:48:56):
Chad Benson Show Fun Show Today, Matt wrapping up this
go Fast. We did all kinds of fun things. They
really had a nice breakdown of you know, immigration, Let
me know what you think. There's so many things out there,
and so many people with immigration are just choosing a
portion of a story that fits the narrative. We got

(01:49:17):
to get back to actually talking about real issues when
it comes to that. Tomorrow, We're gonna have a big
breakdown of the super Bowl across the board, and I'm
gonna give you my pick on who will win. He
could probably take it to the bank. You guys have
a bless an amazing rest your old on a second.
I see you Friday Thursday. We'll do it again tomorrow
as always, Night night Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
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