Episode 377: The Getty / Newsom Pipeline

From oil wells in the Arabian desert to the marble halls of California’s governor’s mansion, The Getty–Newsom Pipeline traces how one of America’s richest family fortunes helped shape one of its most ambitious politicians. This episode follows the money, influence, and mentorship that flowed from J. Paul Getty’s empire through the trusts, boardrooms, and social networks that later elevated Gavin Newsom. It explores how decades of wealth, politics, and education merged into a single current of power—and why that current could carry Newsom all the way to a presidential run in 2028.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Here is your host, George Hobbs.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's time for another edition of the Fact Hunter Podcast
as we record on this Thursday evening, October thirtieth, twenty
twenty five. I hope this finds you well. Hope everybody's
having a good week as once again we enter uncertain times.
A lot of things going on in the world. Before

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we jump into the main topic today, Getty Oil, the
Getty family and the Gavin Newsom connection. First, I wanted
to thank a longtime listener and actually he was a
guest on the Flat Earth Files podcast last winter. I
believe Phil from New Jersey. His kind letter. You don't

(00:58):
see too many handwritten letters anymore, very thoughtful, and appreciate
the mullein as well. That is just a tremendous natural
you know, use it's great, has a really good history
that is used in natural medicine. It helps with respiratory illnesses.

(01:20):
It's antioxidants and anti inflammatory properties, and I really appreciate
you just use it like a t So thank you, Phil,
Thanks for listening, and thanks for all your contributions to
the podcasts. Also, obviously we all know what's going on.
It's the talk of social media. I'm sure a lot

(01:40):
of friends and families are discussing it as well, the
the impending stoppage of the SNAP. I received a few
text messages today, several emails of some interesting experiences at
Sam's Clubs, at cost codes, at grocery stores today. I

(02:02):
don't know if people are just using everything that's left
on their cards, but I've heard some comparisons to Black
Friday at some costcos and Sam's Clubs and some shoprits
and pathmarks. So I'll just tell you, obviously, this is
an intentional division. Whether it's that they want to make

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it so intense they bring in the blue helmet people,
which if you're a new listener that's the UN or
whatever it is. Obviously, there was a report yesterday that
Trump has ordered the military to be ready to deploy
by January, not to go to Russia Ukraine, but to

(02:47):
break up any dissidents here in the United States. And
you know, I saw a video today from Texas that
was very similar to what we saw in Canada in
twenty twenty. Police showing up to someone's house because of
a post on social media he made about Israel, and

(03:09):
he stood his ground and told the police to leave,
and they did leave. They asked him not to do that.
Very nineteen eighty four, Very big brother. Seems like we're
entering some entering some pretty interesting times. And I'll tell
you to keep your head on a swivel, be strong
in your faith, and really just be careful because this division, again,

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it's intentional. Everything over the last twenty five years has
been intentional. I rewatched a nine to eleven Truther clip
today and how evil that was. And sometimes we forget
the financial aspect of it with Building seven and all
the evidence that was going that was currently housed in

(03:55):
Building seven to take down some people for some stock
market trades. So the level of nefarious activity within the government,
the very government who swears to take you know, to
look over us. I mean to use the word treason,
I feel is too light of a word. So I

(04:17):
implore each and every one of you to be strung
in your faith, you know, get close to people in
your community, and be wary. I hate to say this,
but I will tell you be wary, not scared, just
be wary if you do if this thing does go
through and you go to the grocery store. There's obviously

(04:38):
a lot of threats on social media, but ninety percent
of those are just people looking to get clicks, and
you know, because of the pride people have today. But
there are going to be some people who buy in
to what they tell you on TV. Right, they put
these figures on television and they get you all riled up,
and like they did in twenty twenty, they forced you

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to take a side where you mask or no mask,
we vaccine or anti vaccine, and they want us to
fight amongst each other while they sit back and bring
in this one world order, which is the endgame. It's biblical,
one world government, one world religion, a central bank, digital coin,

(05:23):
and you know, as truths. I understand how difficult it
can be to communicate this to friends and family when
they don't even understand how banking works. The fractional reserve
banking where they keep so little of your money. It's
a scam. It's a shell game. It's you know, the
classic there's five holes and you have two fingers and

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you're trying to, you know, stop all the different holes.
It's only a matter of time, and I'm not sure
what the endgame is or this is just another distraction
from something bigger, But it just feels to me like
there is something nefarious about all of this. I will

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tell you if you do or have you had seen
something within the grocery stores at the costcos, send us
an email the fact hunter at mail dot com. And again,
we are genuinely concerned for the people who are struggling,
who are low income who.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I again, I don't think charity belongs in the hand
of the federal government. I think there are other local
entities that can handle it. And anytime you give the
federal government control of something, you're doomed. And now they
have so many people entrenched into this welfare sit you
know really what it is. You know, this was a

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matter of time before it happened. And you know, we
can't complain about taxes and then demand all these gifts
from the government, and the money has to come from somewhere.
And obviously we have a federal reserve and they just
print it and we hope we can make the interest
payment and it's a matter of time before we go

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bankrupt again. And we saw what happened the first time
when FDR declared bankruptcy, people turned in their gold. That
was a reset. Two thousand and one was a security reset.
Twenty twenty was a fiscal reset as well as a
security reset. Very much to a certain point normalizing biometrics.

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And I think all of these things may come to
a head in the near future. I'm not going to
lose any sleep over it, but I will practice what
I preach. I will keep my head on a swivel.
I've already told my wife that she will not go
to a Walmart by herself. I'm actually we're going on

(07:55):
base tomorrow to do some grocery shopping. I'm pretty sure
there's not going to be any issues on a military
base at the grocery store. But with that being said,
understand you may not know this, but I think it's
upwards of twenty five percent of people who are epour
and below in the military are on snap benefits. Now,

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I can tell you that the military has many, many
backup plans in place for the soldier to take care
of them so they'll be okay. So interesting times they
say you reap what you sew. And again, I am
a firm believer in healthcare and education and charity has
no belongings in the federal government. And as far as

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Gump said, that's all I have to say about that.
Let's get into today's episode. And again this is a
combination of the Getty's, the Pelosis, the San Francisco connections.
And I will tell you I truly believe that in
twenty twenty eight the Democratic ticket will consist either as

(08:59):
president or vice president, Gavin Newsom. And it's important to
know the money, the power and control behind that. But
this starts many, many, many decades ago in the middle
of the Arabian Desert, on a strip of land that
belonged to both Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. Isn't that funny? Right?

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This is seven years after the end of World War two,
and another five years after that is when Saddam Hussein
will make his first appearance on the world stage or so.
But here it is the early fifties. You have tankers
queued pipelines or snaked toward the Gulf and from a
field called Wafra. The private empire became a reality, so

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the man behind it would be labeled the richest American.
At one point he called his oil company an empire
and likened himself to Caesar, right, and Caesar considered himself
a god. That's where this guy was really at. And
his name was J. Paul Getty. And this is much
bigger than Tabloyd legend. This is geology. This is known

(10:11):
as concession law and balance sheets. This was a bedrock
of what would become a dynasty that later infiltrates museums, art, politics,
and yes, even Rome itself. So the Getty story doesn't
actually start in riod or Kuwait City, right. It opens

(10:34):
on the American planes with George F. Getty. And this
guy is a Minneapolis lawyer. He jumps into the oil
patch in the early days and formed Minnahoma Oil in
the Osage Nation in the first years of the nineteen hundreds.
His son's name was Jean Paul. That's where the J.

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Paul comes from. He learned the trade before building holding
companies and rolling up assets through the nineteen twenties and
the thirties. And again, if you look back during the
quote unquote Great Depression and the stock market collapse of
nineteen twenty nine, look at how many Look at how
many families benefit from that crash. Once again, these things

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they know what's coming. They know what to hold, what
to sell, what to buy. It's all rigged right. All
the world's the stage. But this is where the family's
first real money was made and where the appetite for
outsized bets was forged. So by the nineteen thirties, the
Getty orbit tightened around a vehicle called Pacific Western Oil.

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It was publicly traded, it was acquisition hungry. They were
purchasing any corporation they could get their hands on, and
they were really increasing under Getty's control. So a few
years go by, it's nineteen fifty six and the name
on the door were officially changed Pacific Western Oil. Right,
that wasn't good enough. They're very prideful people, so they

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had to put their name on it, the Getty Oil Company.
And it was a symbolic line in the sand that
the holding company era was giving way to a vertically
ambitious operator within global reach. So here's the hinge that
converts wealth into this dynastic wealth. Nineteen forty nine, Saudi

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Arabia granted Pacific Western Oil the concession to explore and
produce oil on its half of the Saudi Kuwait Neutral Zone.
So the Kuwaiti side had granted its half to the
American Independent Oil Company also known as Ammon Oil. You
have to remember at this point the oil men were

(12:55):
fairly skeptical. They were in isolated terrain, and I can
tell you as someone who has been in that portion
of the world, it is extremely austere. The environment, very
harsh conditions from March is really brutal, with the sandstorms,

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the huge change of temperature in the fall in the spring,
very hot during the day, very cool at night. The
logistics were a nightmare. At the time. They hadn't This
is all pre United States getting involved in that area,
and you had a world market that was still not

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quite yet up and running after World War Two. But
here's the thing. Getty gambled big money and he took
a risk. Now, contemporary reporting lays out how aggressive his
bid actually was. Millions were down payments, they had guaranteed

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rule oilties, and terms that really were real interesting that
rival oilmen were not willing to face. So they made
history at wafer number four, February tenth, nineteen fifty three.

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They started drilling and they hit oil five weeks later
March seventeenth, nineteen fifty three, at thirty four hundred feet.
So as soon as they hit oil, they started getting
infrastructure into place. They had a thirty four mile pipeline,

(14:43):
a new terminal at Mina Abdullah, They had twin barrel tanks,
seventy three thousand barrel tanks. They had a submarine loading
line to deep water. It became all hands on deck
and no expense mattered.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Right.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
So January thirteenth, nineteen fifty four, the very first shipment,
ninety two thousand barrels of oil, sailed aboard the Sukura
Maru and it was bound for a refinery in Japan.
In the paperwork and engineering journals of the day, the
operator names mattered Pacific Western Oil on the Saudi side

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and a Mean Oil on the Kuwaiti side. So through
the late nineteen fifties into the sixties, the capacity just ballooned.
Loop lines were laid to parallel the first pipeline. You
had a six hundred thousand barrel storage tank at the
time was the world's largest. I went up in nineteen

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sixty one and through put targets marched upward offshore across
the name divided zone. Japan's Arabian Oil Company bought Kafji
Online in nineteen sixty on shore, Getty's Waffa grew into
a heavyweight. So here's a critical thing to mention that

(16:09):
Getty found oil. It's not the biggest thing, but it's
truly how fast he discovered, how fast he turned the
discovery into cash flow. So again, by the year after
the nineteen fifty six rename into Getty Oil, Getty's half
share of Neutral Zone had rocketed from five point eight

(16:35):
million barrels a year to eleven point six million. It
had literally doubled, with plans to double again. And here
he is already building a refinery to process this heavy
oil coming out of Waffra. This isn't passive ownership. This

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is aggression, and it's documented in the business press. But
what's interesting and more interesting than just barrels was the timing,
because Getty's Neutral Zone gusher hit the global market just

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as the post war boom accelerated and the seaborne oil
trade scaled hard. So by the mid to late nineteen fifties,
he wasn't merely just another stakeholder. He was the rare
individual American controlling a Middle Eastern production stake, something Time
magazine called out as singular in an age dominated by

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the super majors. So this is really when it pivots
from simple geology into power. In nineteen fifty seven, just
think how fast this is going along. Just a few
years later, Fortune magazine crowned J. Paul Getty as the

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wealthiest living American, and he leaned into the image just
like Caesar did. Right, he said, I feel no qualms
likening the Getty Oil Company to an empire and myself
to Caesar. At the very same Sutton place matter where

(18:22):
he installed a coin box payphone for guests, he wouldn't
even let his guests use his phone without paying for it.
The man who pitched pennies marshalled billions. And the same
was were the Rockefellers, right sparadim mister Rockefeller. And they
had to you know, the Rockefellers had to pay a

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company to redefine their image. So this paradox that Getty
had frugality and empire became his brand. So you can't
begin to understand and the Getty Museum, the Getty Trust,
or the political footprint in California without its origin story

(19:08):
the neutral zone concession Pardon me in forty nine and
the nineteen fifty three. Waffer Discovery was a spigot. Once
the cash flow stabilized, they could structure their wealth through trust,
and they ultimately aimed that into power into museums. We've

(19:32):
said many times on this podcast, art is the way
they launder money.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Right.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I can get a crayon and a piece of paper
out and draw something and say it's worth twenty five
million dollars. Right. You'll see all the rich people are
involved in art. And it's not because they really like art,
trust me, it's not. But it was also a pipeline
for politics, because if you you get your politicians in place,

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then you can have the rules that favor your company.
And again, this is a guy who compared himself to
Caesar and many of the people that came out of
this pipeline No pun intended was a young San Franciscan
name Gavin Newsom. So this before we get into that, though,

(20:24):
we're going to talk about a certain kidnapping and a
link to Rome. So it's Rome. It's July tenth, nineteen
seventy three. There was a sixteen year old American heir
walking the old streets near Piazza Farnice. His name is
John Paul Getty, the third grandson of oil billionaire J.

(20:45):
Paul Getty. Hours later, he disappears. At first, the family
kind of just blows it off because he had joked
before were about faking a kidnapping. He had a lot
of money, just wandered the world. But then a letter arrives.
The demand was seventeen million dollars and the kidnappers weren't bluffing.

(21:08):
They are members of the Calibrian mafia. But again, this
is J. Paul Getty, who made people use a payphone
at his house so that the weeks pass. There's skepticism,
but then in the mail comes some grizzly proof. I

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don't know how many of you have heard this story before,
but November of nineteen seventy three, an envelope is delivered
to an Italian newspaper. Inside of it is a lock
of hair and a human ear. The note read, this
is Paul's ear. If within ten days the family still

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thinks this is a joke, then the other ear will
arrive in little pieces. And that image first catches the
newspaper papers in Europe and then all across the world.
For the first time, the world associates the Getty name
with not just oil, money and power, but with ruthlessness,

(22:15):
greed and coldness. And it's because John Paul Getty, this
patriarch in his English manner at Sutton Place, refuses to
pay the money. His infamous quote read I have fourteen grandchildren.
If I pay a penny now, then I'll have fourteen

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kidnapped grandchildren. And at that time it truly cemented his
image as the stingiest billionaire alive. So, like the shrewd
businessman he is, he enters negotiations and the mafia lowers
its demand from seventeen million to three million million. Getty

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still bulks. And it's only after the boy's ear is
sent mutilated, infected does the family finally agree. So you know,
these type of people have to feel like they win.
So the final ransel he wouldn't pay the three million

(23:23):
at the very final negotiation. He had to get it
down to two point nine million just to say he won.
He got the last negotiation. So Getty finally agrees. But
this is the interesting part. And I remember this guy
is the wealthiest man in America, right, he will only

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agree to pay if it is considered alone to his
son with six percent interest. You heard that right. The
rest must be scraped together by the boys father. So
finally the money moves in in December nineteen seventy three,
the cash is delivered. Days later, after five months in captivity,

(24:12):
John Paul Getty IID is found dazed, scarred, wandering on
the edge of southern Italy, alive but obviously never the
same again. And this story, as it made its way
into the American media, not only reverberated here but around

(24:34):
the world. So at this point, the Getty's had a
huge image problem, likening to what the Rockefellers had at
the turn of the century one hundred years ago. Right,
they become this modern morality play wealth so vast that

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it can't be moved by human suffering. And from the
then on, the Getties are known as the Ear and
the Envelope family. Now, this is a detail that a
lot of people miss, and it's where the Getty saga
connects directly into California politics, because it has to do

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with one of the men who delivered the money, and
his name was William A. Newsom the third, the father
of Gavin Newsom. He wasn't a bystander, he was the
godfather to John Paul Getty, the third. So when the

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time came to deliver the cash, the Gettys trusted Bill
to carry it, and the press at the time noted
and later obituaries repeated it, a godfather delivers a ransom payment.
So Bill's role didn't simply end with that delivery. Over

(26:01):
the years, he became one of the Getty family's closest advisors.
He served as the trust administrator. Pardon me, and I
will include the link to the J. Paul Getty Trust.
The last reporting their nine ninety was twenty twenty three
annual revenue of three hundred and seventy million dollars. That's

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just revenue. I here total assets twelve point five billion dollars.
And again, this nine to ninety loop is the reason
these wealthy people are allowed to get by without paying

(26:50):
taxes and to infiltrate American politics. So again, he's serving
as the trust administrator for Gordon Getty and a trustee
for multiple Getty family trusts. This was not an honorary work.
It meant handling distributions, investments, and governance. It meant access

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to the inner machinery of one of the largest private
fortunes on earth. So when we talk about Gavin Newssan's upbringing,
and there's a video going around from a week ago
where he was interviewed and he was saying, I was
eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches all the time, macaroni
and cheese. We didn't have a lot of money, it was.

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That's an absolute lie. But we know what's the old joke.
How do you know when a politician is lying when
he's moving his lips? Right, Remember, Gavin Newssen's father wasn't
just a California judge. He was a huge part of
the Getty inner circle. He was the man who carried
the ransom money through Rome, who managed trust funds, who

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leveraged Getty wealth for decades. Now there's even a deeper
layer to this, saying that the Getty family wasn't paying
its portion of their money to Rome itself the Vatican,
but that in itself, if you start peeling back the
layers of the onion would take another hour in itself,

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and that is something we'll come back and reflect on someday.
But let's continue with this line with j. Paul Getty,
Let's finish his story. He died in nineteen seventy six,
just three years after the kidnapping. Now his estate was fractured,
but the trust's balloon they went through the roof. And
again today it's the richest art institution in the world.

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And I mentioned the endowment. I'm close to twelve billion dollars.
It's museums, research centers, institutes, and it's power. Right, and
then you have the direct correlation of Bill Newsom, Gavin
Newsom's father, the godfather, the courier, and a trustee. So

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now we're going to shift the Getty wealth, which again
now at this point is structured in trusts and institutions,
whether it's the Getty Museum, the Getty Villa, the Getty
Research Institute. But there's a lot of controversy as well,
looted antiquities, legal battles with Italy and Greece, and then

(29:45):
there's even the whispers of hidden tunnels beneath marble walls.
As Stephen D. Kelly once stated, I want to say,
I'm not sure, but I want to say I had
him on the podcast years ago, maybe it was the
radio show. He did have a YouTube video when he
went in looking for the tunnels. I think that video

(30:05):
probably has one hundred and fifty thousand views. Now. I
haven't talked to Stephen D. Kelly in at least five years.
I haven't looked at his website in five years. But
he was give him due credit, the one person who
brought the magnifying glass over the Getties. So by the

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late nineteen seventies, the oil empire had been formalized into
a new kind of institution, and that is the Getty Trust.
And again what began with gushers in the desert was
now laundered into marble glass prestige. And Getty himself had
famously said the meek shall inherit the earth, but not

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the mineral rights. That's the kind of person this guy was.
And when he died in nineteen seventy six, those mineral
rights had already been transformed into a trust fund. And
that backbone of the endowment that today that sits near
that twelve million dollars, right, and it is the single
wealthiest art institution on the planet. And you heard me

(31:08):
correctly when I said that, if you think about that number,
the Louver in Paris, the met in New York, they
are both dwarfed by the Getty. That's right. It's a
bigger institution than the Louver in Paris. So this fortune
didn't simply vanish in the oil wars of the eighties.

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It was restructured, it was shielded, it was protected, and
it was rebranded into this cultural supremacy as they did
in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
So if you drive up into the hills above La
you can see it, the Getty Center while these walls
you know, that are glowing in the California sun perched
up like an acropolis. It opened up in ninety seven,
almost thirty years ago, at a cost of one point
three billion dollars. Now it was designed not simply as

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just a museum, but a fortress of legitimacy. So every
detailed mattered, the architecture by rich Meyer, the gardens, the
research facilities, the conservation labs, and some possibly other nefarious
activities that we'll get to in a moment. But the
message was clear. The Getty name was no longer about

(32:26):
the oil wells. It wasn't about ransom notes. This was
inherently part of their image change. It was about culture,
it was about knowledge, it was about permanence. Right, Let's
talk a little bit about the antique scandals, So just
shortly after the Getty Center opened, there was a lot

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of controversy. At the heart of the scandal was Merry
and True. That's the Getty's curator of antiquities. So for
decades the Getty had acquired Greek and Roman treasures from
shadowy dealers. And again, the art trade, there's so many

(33:11):
nefarious levels to it. It truly is. And by the
late nineties and early two thousands you have Italy, you
had Greece beginning to accuse the museum of hoarding looted antiquities.
One thing that doesn't get taught or talked about enough,
I guess is in two thousand and three when we

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walked into Iraq, the looting that happened of the gold
of the art of the Ziggurats, the email, infamous emails
from Hillary Gilgamesh. I think there was a whether it's

(33:53):
nine to eleven Afghanistan, Iraq. There are so many layers
to these conspiracies. I mean with Iraq, it was oil,
it was gold, it was historical so much. But in
two thousand and five, Marion True was indicted in Italy

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for conspiring to traffic and stolen artifacts in two thousand
and seven, the Getty agreed to return forty objects to Italy,
including a golden funery wreath and marble statues. Now the
Italians wanted even more the prized bronze known as the
Victorious Youth that was pulled from the Adriatic Sea in

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nineteen sixty four, which the Gettys had fought bitterly to keep.
In twenty twenty two, just three years ago, under mounting
legal pressure, the Getty returned a monumental marble group called
Orpheus and the Sirens to Italy. Now each of these
was they considered a wound to the image of the Gettis,

(34:59):
but the timing they went under the radar. Obviously two
thousand and five there was still a lot going on
post nine to eleven stuff. Two thousand and seven, on
the brink of the financial collapse. Twenty twenty two, people
were still talking about vaccines, this and that. So I
don't think it got the attention that it would have
gotten and possibly let's say the nineties, But know this,

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for every statue that it showcased, there was a claim
that it was stolen or smuggled or brought from the
black market. So this institution that styled itself as the
world's art guardian, was accused of being the world's most
powerful fence. Despite the scandals and the accusations, the Gatty

(35:44):
Trust just continued to grow more powerful. They had billions
in its coffers. They funded worldwide conservation efforts and other
activities that we'll get to again. Right, And the wealth
that once came from the neutral zone was now writing
art history text books and deciding which civilizations would be displayed.

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So again, when you're wealthy and you have the opportunity
to rewrite history, which again our children's textbooks from the
public schools, they're very one sided. We talk about that
all the time. So again I do want to very

(36:30):
briefly mention the conspiracy layer about this with Stephen D.
Kelly and I will look, let me put this note
here video I'll go on YouTube to see if that
video is still there. Right, A lot of things have
been scrubbed from the last five years, and I'll leave
it to you to decide. But in the undercurrents of

(36:51):
Los Angeles there was a lot of whispers going on.
One really caught and spread and that was Stephen D. Kelly,
a former CIA nsa contractor turned whistleblower. Now Stephen claimed
that beneath the Getty Museum lied a vast underground complex.

(37:11):
There's tons of reddits and chat rooms and forums about
this since Steven broke that news. I want to say
it was ten fifteen years ago, and again I should
have found the video beforehand, but nevertheless it really caught

(37:32):
some steam. And these network of tunnels were where many
of the elites were conducting child trafficking, and some even
said there was some satanic virtual abuse going on, and
he called the Getty the hub of all evil in
Los Angeles. Now, of course, the mainstream media dismissed the claims.

(37:57):
The fact checkers jumped into action, as they always do,
so the Getty refused to comment. But still today you
can find if you insert that in well, if you
put it in Google, your first twenty hits are going
to be fact checkers. But if you go to alternate
searches and you take the time to research, maybe on

(38:18):
Rumble or do a reverse search on YouTube by date
something of that effect, you will find a lot of
conversation about that. Whether it's the same kind of traction
of people have with the Walmarts, right with the underground
tunnels and the walmarts and the government really controlling them
as a logistic hub. You know who knows. In this

(38:38):
day and age, we can't just dismiss anything without looking
into it in this crazy world we live in. But
the real reason this rumor continues to persist is because
the Getty family checks every box. They have immense wealth.
They have a fortress like secrecy. They use art is

(39:00):
their cover, and we know behind doors closed. When you
have all the money in the world, what is the
one thing you're looking for. You're looking for eternal life.
They want to outlive everyone. They want to defeat God.
And that's.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Man.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
And I mentioned it three weeks ago. You go look
at the numbers of children who go missing in South
America every single year. It's astonishing, it's mind blowing. But
we live in a society where we go, wow, that's horrible,
and then we turn on YouTube a change a channel,
and we move on with their life. There's no accountability
in this world. And listen, maybe Kelly's wrong, maybe he's right.

(39:39):
Know how the governments work in this world. The Getty
is more than just a museum. It's a symbol, right
like Denver, the airport there. So the reason why this
matters is because the Getty Trust is truly the hinge

(40:01):
in our story like everything else. Like again, if you're
new to the podcast, please don't dismiss this. Please take
the time to research what I'm about to say. The
American Cancer Society, Saint Jude's, all of these nonprofit organizations.

(40:25):
When you actually take five minutes and you put in
American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, and then end it
with nine to ninety and Pro Publica shows up and
you click on it, and then you click on their
tax return and you see how much of your donations
and your friend's donations go to salaries, go to galas,

(40:49):
and how little actually goes to benefit the people.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Right.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
And the commercials are the same, the person there with
a tear rolling down their cheek and show children suffering. Right,
you remember the old commercial from the eighties for just
one penny a day. Find out that ninety percent of
that money was going to private jets, to salaries, to
retirement funds. These people retire and get monthly paychecks. This

(41:19):
all goes back to what we started out saying at
the beginning of this podcast is charity is a scam
in this country. When government touches charity, it's corrupted. When
elites touch charity, it's corrupted. And a lot of people

(41:39):
turned a blind eye to it. Like every time I
try to mention the wreaths across America, people get upset
and people don't like to have their traditions interrupted. Right,
It's all about duality. That's what we always talk about,
the duality of this world. That's why the black and
white tiles right Solomon's Temple in the Masonic Halls documented power,

(42:06):
whispered conspiracy. That's what makes the Getty central to the
web of influence that we're facing here in the United States.
The Getty stand is a monument to how wealth is hidden,
how it's you know, withheld from being taxed, how they
transform it, and how they weaponize it against us. And

(42:27):
it's a you know, a culture. And if you look
at the connections, whether it's the rise of Gavin Newsome
and the networks, the oil Germany in the thirties and forties,
the OSS, the Cia, the Jesuits and Rome, they all converge.

(42:49):
It gets much deeper than that. You look at the
early nineteen eighties again, the Getty name at this point
no longer just meant oil wells and marble museums. It
meant Getty Oil, right, And I know people my age
remember the Getty signs. Getty gas stations were on every quarter.
It was one of the largest independent oil companies in

(43:11):
the United States. They sat on tens of millions of
barrels and reserves. They had a stockpile. Their cash flow
was just unbelievable. But after J. Paul Getty's death in
nineteen seventy six, the company was not run by one
shrewd dictator anymore. It was governed by trustees boards, and

(43:32):
of course the heirs had to say in things. And
that's when these type of things happen, and people start
to smell money. That's when the predators really try to circle.
Right now, in the essence of big oil, Getty was unusual. Okay,
This wasn't Exxon, this wasn't Shell out of Britain, this

(43:55):
was agency, It was independent, and it was totally controlled
by a family, right Gordon Getty the sun He emerged
as the largest shareholder after his father's passing. He held
forty percent. It wasn't fifty. I think it was forty
or forty five percent. And here's the thing. Gordon was

(44:17):
not an oil man. He was anything, but he was
a music composer. He was a patron of the arts,
which is why they started to go in that direction.
And when fortunes, you know, falls into hands like that,
Wall Street smells blood and people are apt to be.

(44:40):
Getty Oil had become the crown jewel for corporate raiders
for lack of a better word. Right, Gordon Getty himself
hinted that he would sell to the highest bidder, telling
his lawyers and advisers he was open to offers. Again,
he was into the arts, he wasn't an oil man.

(45:01):
And that signal really sent shock waves through the oil industry.
So a year later there were pretty heated up negotiations
between Getty and pens Oil. Right, still a familiar name today.
They're out of Texas, by the way, run by a
guy named Hugh leedk. I believe it's Toople. So the

(45:23):
deal was Pens Oil would acquire part of Getty Oil,
with Gordon Getty's trust cashing out for billions of dollars. Right,
they toasted the champagne, and the press wrote the story
as if it were done. But Getty Oil, after decades
of family control, was about to be absorbed and then

(45:47):
came in ambush, right Texas or Texaco struck So within
days Texaco at that time, another one of the oil
giants swooped in with a bigger offer, one hundred and
twenty five dollars per share. Now a pennz oils was
around one ten, one twelve, and Getty's board, like any

(46:13):
they are corporate greed, right, we're all familiar with that.
They wanted the maximum profit, so they jumped ship and
overnight Pen's Oil was left hanging. They had a handshake
deal in place, but nothing was signed, so the contract
was snatched away. But led Key was no ordinary oil man.

(46:35):
He was a Texan with a fight in his pocket,
and he hauled Texico into court. And at that time,
if you go back and read the newspapers, if you
ever go to newspapers dot com, get get a yearly subscription.
It's a bit of money. But to be able to
go back and read newspaper articles from the eighteen hundreds

(46:56):
nineteen thirties, how it was written, the way it was right,
and seeing something that obviously goes completely against what your
history book says it's amazing. But at this point, this
is one of the biggest corporate lawsuits in American history.

(47:16):
And it was Pennzoil versus Texaco nineteen eighty five. Texico argued, no,
it was just preliminary. Pennz Oil said, yes, we had
the deal in Texico stole it. The jury listened, sent
Wall Street into a frenzy. Texico was guilty of tortuous

(47:36):
interference and the damages were ten point five billion dollars
and at this time it was the largest civil verdict
in American history. And again this is something nobody talks
about in the history books. It was all over the headlines.

(47:57):
The traders on Wall Street panic. Remember two years later,
in was it October of eighty seven, you had a
huge stock market crash. The company appealed, but the courts
upheld the judgment. So Texico and they filed for Chapter
eleven bankruptcy protection in nineteen eighty seven, and it was

(48:19):
the largest bankruptcy filing in US history to that point.
So you see the Getty family still indirectly involved in
corporate collapse. So what happened? The Getty Airs walk away
with billions. The Getty trust was enriched beyond imagination. Penzoy

(48:39):
would penz Oil, pardon me, would eventually settle with Texco
for somewhere around I think it was three billion in cash, again,
another record settlement for the time. But the oil industry
had really been reshaped, and the Getty name had once
again and rewrite the rules. But I think there's a

(49:02):
darker lesson here. This wasn't just about money. It was
about power without accountability, something we see all the time.
One family's private fortune could trigger the largest corporate lawsuit
in history, bankrupt one of the nation's largest oil companies,
and then walk away with billions in their pocket. So

(49:25):
why does it matter? Because by the late nineteen eighties,
when all this is going down, the Gettys just weren't
oil airs anymore. They were cash rich, They were kingmakers.
They had deep into the politicians. Gordon Getty's billions weren't
trapped in oil fields anymore. They were liquid. They could

(49:47):
flow into investments, cultural institutions, the history books, political campaigns.
This is the war chest that later seeded Gavin Newsom's rise. Okay,
I can assure you, whether it's Gavin Nussen's podcast or
whatever it is, he does, there is Getty money behind him. Okay,

(50:09):
This capital is what turned a San Francisco wine shop
into a political launch pad. This is the leverage that
made Newsom and Getty. You know this connection. The War
of the nineteen eighties, this oil War of the nineteen
eighties was more than a corporate drama. It was the
final transformation of getty wealth, right, and it had a

(50:36):
huge influence on many, many things. Right. So, just as
the dust is settling on Wall Street, that Getty's are
off the new ventures. One of them was backing the
son of his family's trusted advisor, Bill Newsom. And his
son was Christopher pardon me, Gavin, Christopher Newsom, and his

(50:59):
story is just about wine bottles and campaign speeches. It
run through not see intelligence officers recycled by the CIA.
So again, Gordon Getty is more than an air with
a checkbook. You know, he's picking winners now, he's financing winners.

(51:22):
He wants people in place who can affect law. One
of those winners, one of the people he decided to back,
was a young San Franciscan with he had, you know,
a good looking guy, polished grin, talent for networking and
of course it's Gavin Newsom. And again, long before his

(51:43):
son ever ran for office, he was an administrator within
the trust. He carried the money that we mentioned earlier
in nineteen seventy three for the ransom, and he managed
much of their money in legal matters. And this trust
steteship meant access to distributions, investment strategies. Right. He knew

(52:07):
when the Gettys were going to get into something he
knew before he could be a part of it and
enrich himself when the ship needed to be guided, and
in turn, the Getty machine needed someone who's reliable. I'll
tell you whether it's a president or a bank or
a powerful person, there's always a guiding hand nearby. Now,

(52:32):
the European tour is something that never shows up in
the history books. Right nineteen sixty nine, nineteen seventy Bill
Newsom isn't just you know, tending to cases in San Francisco.
He is going across Europe with the gentleman by the
name of Otto Obricht van Bolshwing. See. This guy was

(52:55):
a former ss Nazi guy officer. He worked in the
orbit of Adolph Eichman's Office of Jewish Affairs. Later recruited
by US intelligence during the early Cold War, which we
all know goes by the name Operation paper Clip. Right,
same with Warner Brown, pardon me, Warner von Brown and

(53:19):
many others. Right. Our history books tells us that these
are the most despicable people to have ever walked the
face of the earth. Yet we brought many of them
into our fold and put them in the highest levels
of government. Makes perfect sense, right. So by that late
nineteen sixties, Getty aligned his capital and helped position von

(53:45):
Bolschwing at the top of the California tech ventures at
the very top. And you all know that, you know
Apple in the seventies and all these other Silicon valley
Getty was behind that is well, it was known as
the trans International Computer Investment Corporation TCI, and again Bill

(54:05):
Newsom served as the council and board member. So these
guys go across Europe together. They were tapping his banking,
his business contacts, they were scouting deals. So think about
it this way, a future governor's father traveling with a

(54:26):
you know, the highest level of officer during World War Two,
who we considered the enemy at that time. That's what
we were told in our history books turned into this
US asset and was in service of Getty financed enterprise. So,
if you want to really understand the subterranean plumbing of
American power during the Cold War, how oil money, intelligence assets,

(54:51):
and political families interlock, this is the Rosetta stone, right.
It's a big deal Jesuit formation and how it opened
the doors for the Newsom family. Right, he walked in
this world that was tightly knit to Catholic institutions and

(55:12):
Jesuit influence. And again, remember, you know, I don't remember
if I said this already in the seventeen hundreds, you
could not hold political office, You could not even be
a lawyer if you were a Jesuit. Now, Jesuits are
often called the Pope's shock troops for a reason. They
produce operators who make things happen behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
And then, of course ninety one Newsome enters the arena
as an entrepreneur opens a boutique on Fillmore Street. Right.
His wine, his brand is called plump Jack. It expands
into an apple winery, restaurants, hotel. But you don't get

(55:56):
that kind of investment egg from a bank without putting
up a large share of your own money. You see,
that's where Getty's checkbooks made a difference between you know,
this promising little shop on a corner to becoming the
portfolio that it did. But here's the most important thing
to remember. This was not charity. The Getties never do

(56:18):
anything out of the goodness of their heart. It is
a sponsorship, right. We always say that politicians should be
like the NASCAR drivers and wear these jackets that have
all the little patches of everyone who sponsors them, right,
Apak Pfizer, on and on and on.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Right.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
So it's a big deal. So you know, understanding this
Getty empire from the fifties to today and everything that
is connected is truly amazing. And you look at the
San Francisco connections to the hair you know, Kamala Harris,

(56:56):
Willie Brown, the governors of California, right, the Brown family.
It's a huge deal. So to understand Gavin Newsom, you
have to understand San Francisco. And I'm not super familiar

(57:17):
with it, right, but it is a city of old
lyne Catholic families. You have art patrons, right, Big tech
is in the area. It's a big deal. And you
have the arts and that's a great way to move
the money. Right, you have the Museum gala. They placed

(57:38):
billion dollar patrons at a table with mayors in waiting
with their checkbooks out. You have Willie Brown right. For
decades he was first a speaker in Sacramento and then
the mayor of San Francisco. He ran the switchboards, the commissions,
the appointments, the endorsements. So it's no accident that Gavin
Newsom's first real political foothold it didn't come from some

(58:02):
grassroots uprising. They always make it sound that way, right,
those fraudulent politicians with their tie a little loose and
his sleeves rolled up, like he's actually done some work,
get out of here. But Brown's superpower was stitching money
with votes. He could fill a ballroom with donors on Friday.

(58:22):
He could fill prank sincts precincts with volunteers on a
random Tuesday. But when the gettys leaned in behind Gavin,
that is when things really started to move right. And
lest we forget the connection to Nancy Pelosi, right, and
Nancy Pelosi's rise really forged this national money pipeline that

(58:47):
showed that money in a certain city doesn't just have
to stay within that city. Okay, money from San Francisco
gets funnel to DC through the pelosis, whether it's leadership, packs,
legacy donors, right, it can turn a city mayor hopeful

(59:10):
into a statewide contender, into a mainstay in Washington, d C.
And if you pay pair that with Jerry Brown, governor
Jerry Brown's footprint and their institutional money down there in
San Francisco or up there, I should say, then again
you have it goes from local to city to state

(59:31):
to federal.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
If San Francisco wants to make a governor, they look
to the Gettys. They make it right. Reagan was no different, Harris,
no different. The Getty thread is through it all, right,
from the Neutral Zone oil to the Getty Trust, to
the museum to the campaign accounts. They're behind it all.

(59:58):
You know. Other than the Carnegie Foundation bill and Melinda
Gates money, there are very few trusts that are able
to move the world's scale the way that the Gettys do.
And again it's important to understand the Rome echo, right,

(01:00:21):
whether it's the Jesuit schools, the Catholic sacraments, the god parents,
Rome is a symbol and a seat right the same
city where Bill Newsom carried ransom cash becomes this emblem
of the order that formed Gavin Right. So you know,

(01:00:44):
here we are. It's been seventy two years since Paul Getty,
j Paul Getty, you know, hitched a bet on the
Sodi Kuwait neutral zone in nineteen fifty three, and what
was once pipelines refineries became a monstrous stress. Right nineteen

(01:01:07):
fifty seven, Basking on the cover of Fortune magazine. They
were calling him Caesar, very ruthless guy, very much like Caesar.
Right negotiated his grandson's ransom down to two point nine million,
demanded repayment with six percent interest. And right there was

(01:01:30):
Bill Newsome, father of California Governor Gavin Newsom. We've talked
about trustees, We've you know, we've talked about officers at
the highest level of World War Two who were told
was the enemy the CIA operation pay per Clip von Bouschwing.
It's quite a web and it doesn't get talked about

(01:01:51):
quite enough. And again, whether the museum is a fortress,
whether it is used for more nefarious means, I would
venture to say you should take the time and look
into it for yourself. Understand that the gettys pick and
choose who carries the torch, whether it's a Brown, a Newsom,

(01:02:12):
a Pelosi, a Harris. Right, but know that the very
top people of the government are involved with the very
top people in business. They have different titles, but they
have the same goal in mind, and that is power

(01:02:32):
and control. So again, why is this important Because I
do think that Gavin Newsom is going to be a
part of the presidential ticket in twenty twenty eight, whether
it's VP or president. He's doing the old shucks kind
of thing like a Clinton did, like a George W. Bush,
you know, just a humble, little guy, tough upbringing, which

(01:02:53):
nothing could be further from the truth. He's even having
Republican people on his podcast, right, He's a man of
the people. There's no boundary between Republican and Democrat. And again,
his term ends January twenty seven, in perfect timing for
him to step into the presidential platform and we'll see,

(01:03:16):
you know, the script that they have where he is
going to play on the world stage. But we have
a long way to go before then. We still have
a year and change about what fifteen months before that ends,
and just in the next week we're facing interesting times.
And again, as I said in the beginning of the podcast,

(01:03:39):
is you know, all these people at the top of
the food chain, especially within the government, that are sworn
to protect you, ninety nine percent of them are more
worried about themselves than you. And much of the machine
is planned and intentional. And as we say, keep your
head on a swivel, we definitely are up against interesting times.

(01:03:59):
We'll see once again and is this just a you know,
something to conjure up people, to get people work up,
to spend money, and then tomorrow they say, oh, never mind,
We're gonna take care of snap and everything goes back
to normal. Or are they really going to follow through?
And you'll have voices on both sides saying, you know,

(01:04:19):
armor up, defend yourself, on the other side saying, you know,
raid the stores you shouldn't have to pay. And you know,
with social media, it won't take long for those images
to be on Twitter and TikTok and Facebook, and it's
going to get people riled up. And that's the intent
to divide and conquer and to take the focus off
the parasitic elite that are are doing this intentional so

(01:04:43):
they can bring in more command more control and to
take away more of your freedoms and to eventually bring
in the CBDC. Right, everybody's on a level, a level
playing field, universal basic income, have everything in place. Whether
that happens now we're twenty thirty, we shall see. But
you know, don't at the same time, don't stay in

(01:05:06):
the in the gloom and done. They want you to
be you know, quote unquote low vibrations. They want you
to be depressed, right, so you can get more of
that big pharma in your body. Because if you have
faith in Christ and you have got at your side,
there's nothing to fear, right and Psalm's one eighteen eight

(01:05:27):
says put your faith in God, not in man, because
man is flawed and when he gets the power and
the fame and fortune, like J. Paul Getty, did you
see what it happens to those people? You put payphones
inside your house, you negotiate your grandson's right. It's just

(01:05:49):
it's it's a circus world, and I don't want to
be a part of that world. So I hope everybody
has a tremendous weekend. Again, my friends, take care.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
We'll see him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
I know it's being strug God.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
I know you've had spain. I know you feel tired,
held down by all the way. Yeah, I know you
feel no way, it's my ain't the same. I saw

(01:06:26):
you were gone from you. I feel like you've lost
your way. Don't give up, No, don't give it. But
never is home? Don't they call the primise? It ain't
done yet.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
He's got a plan.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Why it's away?

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Time got up?

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Hemmy? Come?

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Why wait?

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
God?

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Mmy calling? I can see the street beside you. Childs
are putting up fid. Oh you're stronger than anything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
You are.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Yeah, you're gonna be all right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
You're accepting it. A dead found you beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
You're shoving ride. Yeah, you're live and breathing, moveing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
You can hold your.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Head a pie.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Don't give up, No, don't give in, never lose home.
Don't they gone on the primise?

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Me?

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Ain't done Yet's God? I plant wants a way down
the God of Merica. Don't give up, No, don't give in,
never lost? Oh, don't they call the primis?

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
It ain't God like?

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
It's worth than men? What's a way down the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
God even court?

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Why surprise down the godavy colt?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Yes, why surprise? Now the God baby come. Oh yeah,
the god little TV.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Oh, don't give up, no, don't give in never, So
do they go on the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Primis I mean, and yeas got up playing watch a
kind of even coats and don't get it, no dog giving,
never the hold, dogget go the try, it's getting done.
Love's worth living. What's God of any colds?

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
All?

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
The god of needles?

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Why's dog? God of any case?

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You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
Just the facts, ma'am.