This Gay Week: A Global Crackdown on LGBTQ Rights?

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Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's that time of week again, This Gay Week with
Scott Jacobson from The good Man Project. We are here.
I'm the gay He's the week. We're gonna see what
happened for LGBTQ people across the globe. No, hello, my honey, Hello,

(00:51):
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I am Correll. It's time for this Gay Week with
Scott Jacobson from The good Man Project and many other publications,
Rabble and so forth. He is still currently in Ukraine
where they're kind of out of defense missiles, So we're

(01:11):
not going to be so flippant this week. If he
hears a bomb, I'm going to tell him to take cover.
Which last week he heard a bomb and if it
was in our news the next day, But here he is.
It was in the news the next day. By the way,
the one that hit right by your place was in
the news. And I'm like, well, Scott was live on
air with me when this happened. Uh So I wasn't thrilled.
I'm not thrilled that you're in the middle of this.

(01:33):
I know you're a reporter. I know you're doing your job.
I'm still not thrilled. But you know, it's like, when
do you come back.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
It's like, come on, Oh, we've had so many aread
worms today.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's not good.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, no warning is in the next seventy two hours
we're expecting a big attech.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
All right, and speak up just a little. You're a
little you're a little you're a little low in the
war zone. Maybe you don't want to draw attention to you, Selsie,
you're speaking a little low, but be sure you project
child like that wonderful Jeremy Piven comedy in again. Well,
it's that wonderful Jeremy Piven comedy skit where he says
the Rock never had an acting lesson and he's the

(02:16):
richest man in Hollywood. I'm doing a comedy show next
to a Dave and Busters. And then he puts the
mic down and he goes, can you hear me in
the back and they go yeah, and he goes, you
know why because I had fucking acting lessons. It was
a funny Jeremy Piven doing comedy. All right. Before we
begin with the other stories, we'll start with one that

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we reported on first and then became a big, big story,
everyone talking about it, and of course we did it
here first, and that is Turkey not allowing the vessel
with Patty Lapone to dock. I want to say a
few things about that. First of all, for those of
you saying, well, it was an all gay cruise, why
do you have cruises based on sexuality? It was not

(02:59):
an all gay c There were many heterosexuals on board.
It's just a cruise that was marketed to the LGBTQ
community and they got Patty Lapone to perform. But there
were many many heterosexuals on board.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
So that that's the first thing. And then second of all,
I go back to it is time for gays and
lesbians to stop I don't want to say convenience spending,
but it is time for us to flex more of
our financial dollar, and Turkey is not where you should
be spending it. So it is an anti gay country.

(03:36):
Scott and I report here every week about new anti
gay things they do in Turkey. It is not a
place for gay people to be spending money right now.
I'm glad the ship could not dock there. We don't
need to be spending our money there. And you know,
pick a port of a country that actually likes us.
And but it did become a very very big story ship. Yeah,

(03:58):
that that ship has sailed. Well, it became a very
big story. Everyone was like, you know, the gays and Turkey,
and the gays and Turkey. I was too busy watching
Neil the Seal. I'm my whole free time now was
just watching Neil the Seal. Tell me you know who
Neil the Seal is.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I don't know Neil the Seal is. You introduce me
to that young boy who cooks and cooks up a storm, Carter.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, yeah, today, yes, Carter. Carter's on the cruise ship
right now. Carter is on the largest cruise ship in
the world right now, and he's taking a cruise with
his family and he is cooking. He was making mocktails yesterday. Well,
you gotta go find Neil the Seal. He has more
followers than most celebrities. He is an elephants seal that

(04:46):
every year comes to Tasmania and basically destroys the town.
Hates traffic cones, oh can't stand them, destroys police vehicles,
blocks people's way from going to work, lays in the
middle of the highway and they have to close it down.
People love him. The authorities are like, we might have
to euthanize him because people are getting too close. There's

(05:06):
now a petition thirty thousand plus strong to not euthanize
Neil the Seal. He is very famous. He is all
over the internet and I love him. He's a rebel.
He's a rebel. He will not be contained. He's a
teenage boy and he's just thrashing everything in his way.
I love Neil the Seal, so I hope nothing bad
happens to him. But you know, that's how life is.

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The next thing we find out Neil is dead. That's better, okay,
well fame killed. So you know, the more the more
famous he's becoming, the closer people they are getting. And
that's that the locals noted. Just leave him alone, drive
around him. If he's destroying your car, just watch, you know.

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Speaker 3 (06:19):
But as I was saying, it's always the tourists that
have to ruin everything. All right, let's start this whirlwind cavalcade.
Pick a story, spin the wheel, let's go.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
So pick news. So, Senegal's National assembl has amended the
constitution on twenty nine. My marriage is a union man
and a woman. All all underlying nine Assembly members voted
for the change. Same sex marriage is never legal. All
same sex and sexual activity has been prohibited under Penal
Code Article three one nine since nineteen sixty five. So

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they basically just clamp down on try prejudice.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yes, and by the way, my listeners and viewers love you.
They're gonna tell me we couldn't hear Scott. We couldn't
hear Scott, so bump up your if you can. So
here's the deal, Senegal de car that while area, there's
a lot of ist in that region. I used to
work with Vesta Williams, a now deceased R and B artist,

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and she went to Senegal to perform, and when she
got there, she experienced racism like you wouldn't believe. Now.
In America, she was treated like every other black woman,
but in Senegal she was treated like a white person
because she was a light skinned black, and they said

(07:45):
her blood was polluted and that she had slave master
blood in her and all this other stuff. And she
really felt like an outsider in Africa. And yet she's
African American. And so Senegal is ever been a bastion
of acceptance of love for anybody. I am not surprised that.

(08:05):
You know, each week we talk about African nations and
what they're doing in Senegal. They are not instituting a
new band per se as you said. They are really
just tightening up on old hatreds, old bigotries. But again,
I guarantee you this is rooted in American money. Africa

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and African nations have bigger issues than gay One of
their biggest issues is finances, funding and resources. If evangelical
hate organizations from the United States offer them an influx
of cash to do a policy a certain way, they're

(08:47):
gonna take it do I know that's what happened here.
I can't tell you with one hundred percent of surety
that's what happened here, but I will tell you It's
happening all over Africa, so why wouldn't it be happening here.
So again, I truly believe this is the religious right
of the United States influencing policy in an African nation

(09:09):
by incentivizing with cash. With an influx of cash of
some kind, we'll see, that's what it sounds like to me.
These people have no morals or principles. They go where
the cash is. They could care less about. I mean, really, Senegal,
you've got other problems. You've got drought, you've got hunger,
you know, starvation, you've got housing crises' I mean, you've

(09:32):
got more people living in poverty than you do above
the poverty line. The last thing you need to worry
about is who wants to marry who. So the only
reason that they worry about it is because an outside
influence comes in and tells them to worry about it,
and then they do, and they take the donations from
the outside source and go on their merry way.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Another facet is political expedients against a minority population. Another
indicator of Christian space influenced is the use of the
phrase between a man and a woman that is biblical.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
It is not. I mean, the phrase may be biblical terminology,
but nowhere in the Bible does it address same sex
marriage being or marriage being between a man and a woman.
This is all made up.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I heard a great preacher, Scott, I really did, and
that's all. I almost choke on those words. But I
did hear a great preacher, and he said things like,
America is not a Christian nation, so please stop with
all of this. If we were a Christian nation, we
wouldn't have started by murdering twenty million Native Americans and
then making them relegated to a life of poverty. That's

(10:42):
not something a Christian would do. We wouldn't then build
a nation through slave labor, people that we beat and
killed to simply do our chores for us. That's not
a Christian thing to do. In fact, in the Old Testament,
God freed the slave, so I think God made his
position on slavery pretty clear in the Old Testament. So

(11:05):
this preacher said, again, we would not have founded a
nation based on slavery. We certainly wouldn't have gone to
war to keep the right to own a person. That's
not something a Christian would do. And he said, we
would not be discriminating against gays, lesbians, byes, trans or

(11:28):
any person. We would not be judging them or thinking
of them in any other way than they are children
of God and they are perfect the way we are,
because that's what the Bible tells us to do. So
stop calling yourself a Christian and stop calling it a
Christian nation because A you don't behave like Christians, and
b neither does your country. And I think that summed

(11:50):
it up really well. You know, it is not a
Christian thing to do. To legislate against gays. That is
not Christians. It is not something the Lord would want.
It is not something christ would want, and it's just
not something that the Bible demands because the Bible never
mentions homosexuality. The word wasn't even around back in the day,

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and it didn't even come into play in the Bible
until the last century when it was yet again rewritten
by a pope. So it is not a They guise
it as a religious thing, they guise it as a
Christian thing, but it is not, and they are not
good Christians. Anyone that thinks hatred and bigotry against gays

(12:34):
is biblically prescribed is not a Christian. And this according
to a preacher, not just me. Hallelujah, Praise Jesus. I
am ordained. I guess I am a preacher because I
am ordained, so I can perform legal marriages. Hint him,
that's fun. Oh yeah, absolutely, I've done it. I've performed

(12:56):
five marriages.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
I think. I think performed is the right word for
how you do it.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Oh no, oh no, trust me. They were entertained. Uh
it was except at one where I gave away that
the bride was pregnant and the family didn't know.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Well.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, the Some of the most popular programs amongst humanists
in Canada are the Humanists.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
How do you know? You haven't been there in months? Sorry?
Are you even still Canadian? Lava Ukraine?

Speaker 4 (13:40):
That that is? That is an itch people do scratch
when they say, uh, slav Ukrainy, and then the crowd
supposed to say Ukraini Slava. It's sort of a national patriotic,
patriotic thing to me with you also with very yeah, essentially.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Next door I grew up Catholic. We're really good at
you know, repeat. The priest will say something and you
say something and then also with you or blah blah,
blah blah. It's very much a cult type thing, very strange.
Shall we move on to Indonesia? The news isn't much
better there, but but we we could go there, Jesus

(14:20):
true story. Two of my best friends. Speaking of Indonesia.
Two of my best friends now thirty plus years, well
one of them twenty five years and the other thirty
because he met him five years in. They're a couple,
been together, you know, twenty five years. His family is
from Indonesia. And subsequently, my bff of thirty years never

(14:42):
goes on vacation with his husband or partner. They haven't
gotten legally married, but they are married. He never goes
sees the other side. And I asked him why and
he said, well, they're Indonesian. And I said, well, what
does that have to do with it, you know, you're
his partner, and he said, they don't accept his life's
you know, his life at all. They don't. They just

(15:03):
don't talk about it when he's there. They and I thought,
how sad to go back and visit a family that
won't discuss the most important relationship in your life. It's
just it's the family that's missing out. It's you know
then that's always the.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Way you know, they that's with how said and how real.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, a lot of.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
People absolutely, and even in the United States where we're
not Indonesia, but a lot of families here do not
accept it. So Indonesia had the same problem that we
had all of the world, and that is during Pride
Month celebrations. This year there were more attacks than ever.
And in Indonesia there is a surge and abuse against

(15:45):
LGBTQ students during Pride Month, which they say highlight the
need for government action. They're not going to get any
So yeah, it's needed, doesn't mean it's going to happen.
Harassment and attacks against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered university
students in Indonesia escalated during June, a Human Rights Watch

(16:07):
said today, at least ten public universities have recently adopted
discriminatory regulations and are curbing student media coverage and social
media discussions around gender and sexual diversity, undermining freedom of expression.
I wasn't aware they had that in Indonesia. The administration
of these universities should take immediate steps to protect academic
freedom and freedom of expression. They won't. The government should

(16:30):
review and revise laws and policies that facilitate attacks on
gay people. They won't. Indonesian authorities are looking the other
way during the upsurge of attacks on gay people. No shit.
In response to Pride Month celebrations, the Conservative Indonesia Ulima
Council declared that sexual deviations should carry criminal penalties heavier

(16:51):
than adultery. These are people who cheat on their wives.
These are people who are on the down low, who
go out and have same sex sex and just don't
tell anybody. These are people who will dress up as
plushies and screw each other. Okay, that's who they are.
And they're gonna say that I'm a sexual deviant only
when I do it right, So President Proboo Subianto, you

(17:17):
can correct me there. In October twenty twenty five, signed
a decree. Some guy in a silk outfit signs a
piece of paper and suddenly we're all supposed to fall
down and wet our pants. But he signed a decree
concerning Indonesia's National Defense Policy, which stated that national security
threats also come from non military factors, including the spread

(17:39):
of LGBTQ culture. Because somehow a blowjob is a problem
for national defense. I just you know, I'm sorry, I
just you gotta laugh, do you know, come on a

(18:04):
threat to national security? They're afraid we're gonna throw glitter
on the enemy. I what I mean?

Speaker 4 (18:09):
You know, well, I mean the American military is doing
the same. I mean, there's just a lot of framing
that they see it as an ideological attack. They see it,
which means they see it as somehow part of information warfare.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Right, it has nothing to do with national security and
more to do with national public message or messaging of
what is accepted and what is not. Let's see, I
will I feel badly about laughing because ninety four people
were injured in Indonesia over the month of one hundred
and forty one victims. From twenty twenty four to twenty

(18:48):
twenty five, ninety four cases documented a violence targeting gay individuals,
and that, you know, I would say that's unacceptable, but
it's only unacceptable to gay people in their ally. It
is completely acceptable to MAGA and others in the rest
of the world. So I guess it depends on where
you're sitting, whether it's pardon.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Actually can't help pardon. I think there's a wing within
those that can help, but they rarely do that, being
libertarian free speech apps flutists who if they see freedom
of expression being curbed here, well, they don't necessarily have
to be parlgbt but they can be pro free expression.
And you happen to have a common interest of impact here.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
But largely yeah, So Albania has rejected all UN recommendations
when it comes to LGBTQ people. One hundred and twenty
UN members made recommendations for improving Australia's human rights protections.
Recommendations were made for a range of marginalized groups, children, women,

(19:53):
people with disabilities, Aboriginal people as we know in Australia,
and the Torres Strait Islander people. However, gay people were
the only group for which the government did not accept
any of the recommendations They accept of them for the
for the Aboriginals, or for the women and the children.
Heaven forbid any of those marginalized group have gay people
in them. Yeah, the whole thought process escapes me. There

(20:19):
were eight recommendations removing the exemptions that allow religious schools
to legally discriminated against gays, eliminating legal exemptions that allowed
discrimination against trans people, delivering public education campaigns to reduce
stigma and discrimination against the queer community, Introducing a national
ban on conversion practices, banning on necessary surgeries or intersects

(20:40):
on intersex children, or improving systems to allow trans and
gender diverse people to legally change their gender. All eight
of those were rejected by these bigoted morons in I
guess Albania, is it? It says the Albanese, but then
it says Australia. So and this is in Australia's news,
So I'm guessing this is the Albanese of Australia. I'm

(21:05):
not clear on that the Albanese government.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Number of state. So this is probably out of the
universal periodical view of recommendation.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Oh, hold on, now, is show side.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
All right? The Australian Human Rights Commission criticized the government's response, noting,
on average, other countries except seventy five percent seventy three
to seventy six. So the average of that is seventy
five Because I can do math, seventy five percent of
all recommendations. Well, it'd be seventy four point eight five
percent of recommendations received. The government has only agreed to

(22:03):
recommendations for reforms that are already in place or underway.
They essentially are ignoring over two hundred recommendations for new
reforms which would markedly improve the rights, health, and safety
of our first people's, people with disabilities, women, children, people
from diverse cultural backgrounds, gay people, and people in detention.
By the way, I know it's lgbtqya, I just say gay,

(22:24):
Get over it. I'm old. This means the gap between
our international commitments and our domestic practice. I will not
say queer community. It's not that I am bothered by it.
And it's not that I am not a queer. I
just grew up in an error where that word is
not something we just banter around. So yeah, I mean,
yet another example of how they're being very selective and

(22:46):
very targeted in their discrimination. Oh, will accept all of these,
Accept these right here, And there's no reason to not
accept them. No further, yeah, there's no reason to not.
And and they're just they're just doing it to be mean.
Let's just be real, They're just mean, you.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Know, So that I mean a big thing. It seems
to be a status quo government. That's yeah, the big explainer.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
So in Bangladesh, a filthy city. There are anti lesbian
police operations in southern Bangladesh and anti gay vigilante groups
in central Bangladesh, and of course every human rights organization
across the globe is denouncing this. It goes back to

(23:38):
On June eleventh, an adult woman and two adolescent girls
were sent to jail in Barguna, Southern Bangladesh, following allegations
of involvement in a consensual same sex relationship. They also
reported without protest, the fact that a thirteen year old
school girl was placed in protective custody pursue it to
a court order because she was being exposed to lesbian propaganda.

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What they bought a cat, they rented a U hole?

Speaker 4 (24:03):
What?

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Whatever? The detention of adolescent girls raises concerns you think
you think the legal age of consent is eighteen for
women in Bangladesh only sixteen for men. They've got bigger
issues in Bangladesh than gay people. But isn't that the
case in all the places we report on? Gay is

(24:27):
the last thing these places Bangladesh the poverty is overwhelming. Yes,
you know, their economy is in the tanks. Their housing
is horrifying, Their cities are infested with vermin, there's clean
drinking water shortages, climate change is destroying part of their cities.
And what are they worried about? Lesbians?

Speaker 4 (24:47):
It's a scapegoat, It's an easy scapegoat. It's political token.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Well, and we're a threat to national security if we
do it right. All right, what else is on our
our NonStop list.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Of Oh I every week I have to cut short
a substantial number that are present, so I kind of
have to do a irrelevant of the week. But there
is an enormous list I could present each week and
we can have a much longer show or to a
quicker pitter patter skimming a whole bunch. But there's just

(25:25):
an enormous number of stories every week. There's a lot.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Because you want me to jump out of the second
story windows, which you're trying to get me to jump
out there, it's only two floors. I won't really hurt myself,
you know, I'll just maybe break The letters.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Are dwarfed by the positive stories are dwarfed by the
number of negative stories. Each week, I mean, there are
genuine positive stories, but we're definitely in a global period
of regression. There's no question about that.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, But I you know, I want to expand on
that just a little with you because I think globally
we're not just gates educated, progressive, liberal, open minded, tolerant
people are endangered all across the globe. The right is

(26:11):
really rearing their ugly head in every country. Look what's
going on in Great Britain with the fight of Nigel Farage,
and you know, and he's a fucking asshole and he
took five million dollars from Chinese, some Chinese guy, and
now they're saying, hey, you shouldn't have and you should
have reported. So he resigned just so he can run
again and when he wins, which he will because in

(26:32):
his area it's trumpers basically and he's basically maga, so
he will win in his area. He thinks that puts
an end to the five million dollars or five million
pound debacle. It doesn't, but he thinks it will. And
you know, and he's on the very far right. So
you've got a lot of very far right leaders winning,

(26:54):
You've got a lot of their parties winning but then again,
in other parts of the world, you have very enlightened
and very liberal and very left leaning or socialist people
winning as well. So you're right. There is a battle
going on right now for the soul of many nations,
not just the United States. And right now we're in
the period where evil seems to be winning, but we

(27:18):
know it's cyclical and in a year we could be
sitting here talking about how half these things have been
repealed because things have swung the other way. Swinging both ways.
That's the b in LGBT. You just by the way,
just so you know, swing staff, can we have a
long talk about how I'll never understand bisexuality and I

(27:41):
just I won't. You know, I don't. No, I don't.
And this is the truth. I believe there are people
who believe they are bisexual. I do, but I also
maintain that at the end of the day, when it's
all said and done, either you want to lay your

(28:02):
head on a chest with boobs or you want to
lay your head on a chest with hair, unless you're
in Ukraine where the boobs would have hair. But you
know what I'm saying, I sorry. I Either either you
want to be with a man or a woman. At
the end of the day, you are not ambivalent. There

(28:22):
is a gen there's a fifty one percent, so to say,
forty nine percent of you might be fine with a man,
fifty one percent of you wants a woman or vice versa.
Now I'm not by and that might upset by people
that I'm saying that because I don't understand their experience.
I just believe that ultimately, ultimately, at the end of

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the day, you have an overall, an overriding preference you're
not completely neutral about. You could do it, you could
go the other way and have a meaningful relationship and
it would be real and true. But at the end
of the day, you're going to end up with some
of these I only say that because I've dated to
by people and they've ended up with women. They loved

(29:05):
me and we had a great relationship, but ultimately they
ended up with it. And I'm not bidden or am
I We'll be back to discuss my bitterness, Devin. If
you're listening, I'm not naming names. What oh who? From

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a completely different.

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Speaker 3 (30:19):
All right, we are back with Scott Jacobson from the
good Man Project, Rabble and other outlets in Ukraine in Nakiev,
where he told me something really scary, which is that
you guys are out of the missiles. You need to
knock the other missiles out of the sky, and that
that is alarming. I will say that one of the
good things this week that did come out about Donald Trump,

(30:41):
and I wish it was that he had two months
to live. But it was at NATO, at the summit
that he's at. Last year, when he was there, he
kept when he was referencing Ukraine, and he was awake
because he fell asleep with the President of Turkey. Of course,
who wouldn't. But last year when he referenced Ukraine, he

(31:02):
kept talking about Vladimir Putin and what Putin said, and
you know Putin Putin Putin this year and they have
noted this in the press. He talked more of Zelenski
and what Zelenski is saying and what Zelenski is doing.
Although he forgot his name at one point because he's
going out of his fucking mind, but he forgot his name,

(31:24):
but he was, oh, you're the president of Ukraine or whatever.
So it was a nice shift for people that are
observing saying he seems to be more on the side
of and sympathetic to Zelenski now than Putin. I don't
know if that's going to equate to more military help
or more missiles or whatever, but I do know that

(31:47):
it is a positive change for him to not be
so Putin and be more of Zelensky.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
That's incidental. Uh, he likes and that others in questioning
mister Trump have indicated this. He likes winners. If you
are winning or appear to be winning, he will support you.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
True, And he did say that Ukraine has done an
excellent job of winning. He used the word winning against Russia.
So you're right he would change sides at a moment's notice.
He thought he was going to be on the winning side.
So you know, Christian nationalists, which are by the way

(32:27):
here in America. When you hear the term Christian nationalist.
You should equate it to Trader because the Constitution specifically
prohibits Christian nationalism and has amendments in it to stop
Christian nationalism. So when you hear the term Christian nationalists,
just think Trader. Christian nationalist claims God doesn't want gay

(32:48):
people in the Republican Party. Well, on this we can agree,
no gay person should be in the Republican Party. So
I agree with the Christian nationalists. What do you think
about that? Yeah, let's see. Riley Gaines went off against
Elliott Page. I don't know if you saw the picture
of Elliott Page. He's fucking ripped. He's got like a

(33:08):
twelve pack, and you know, is like taking the whole
trans thing to the next level. He's like, you know, uh,
And people tried to deride him and it's sort of
backfired in their faces. What else is going on in
the gay news in the US? Not that we're going
to leave the Globe photo exhibited celebrating queer veterans. It's

(33:33):
kind of nice, nice news. I love when they say
things like drag race, legend, silky nutmeg ganash. Do you
have any idea who that person is? And I'm gay,
I just I don't watch, I don't watch, I do

(33:53):
not watch drag race.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
And I'm gay.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
It was the eighties.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Exactly, And there was a great interview on social media
with a gay Trump supporter who in the middle of
his interview realized that he didn't know what the fuck
he was talking about, and he got so embarrassed by
the interviewer. And it's a classic thing to go look
up it was, you know, it was really quite something
to happen. So, yeah, those are some of the LGBTQ

(34:21):
nation headlines here in the United States. You know, not
all of it is bad, like you said, there is
some good, not much. One thing that we haven't covered
that I have noticed, and now there is a story
at The Advocate about is that queer artists facing widespread
museum censorship according to curators of museums across the country in.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
What appear what is the frame of the type of censorship.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Well, they're talking about it mostly because of financing. Across
the country, Exhibitors with gay art and themes are being altered, postponed,
or outright canceled under tr from UH In February, Washington,
DC's Art Museum of the Americas canceled Nature's Wild with
Endel Dozine because it actually showed LGBT well gayshe which

(35:13):
we have reported on. It showed animals that are gay.

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Speaker 3 (35:48):
So yeah. The Washington, DC Art Museum of the America's
canceled Nature's Wild with On del Gozine. The works were
inspired by Gauzine's twenty twenty one book Nature's Wild, Love,
Sex and Law the Caribbean, which reflected on art, activism
and homosexuality in that region. The same month, Arizona Scottsdale
Museum of Contemporary Art made Eleventh Hour edits to a

(36:12):
traveling exhibition of women, queer and trans artist which had
previously been called Transfeminism, altering the title of it to
a condensed show called There Are Other Skies. In April,
the Smithsonian National Museum of Afrimerica. In April, the Smithsonian
National Museum of African Art postponed a group exhibition of

(36:32):
works by gay African artist entitled Here Pride and Belonging
in African Art, which has been scheduled for a late
May opening to coincide with World Pride. The DC museum
cited budgetary reasons for postponing the show, but the timing
was hard to miss on the heels of the Trump
administration directives to the Smithsonian to remove improper, devisive or

(36:53):
anti American ideology from its museums, as well as the
forest and preemptive relocation of other world cultural events after
the Trump administration's firing at the Kennedy Center for Performing Arts,
So there's a lot of art censorship going on across
the United States. There was a show called Transforming Liberty

(37:15):
tRNS and then Forming, which features a black trans woman
posing as the statue of Liberty, that got pulled after
the cancelation. A spokesperson for the Smithsonian, which oversees the gallery,
disputed the claims and said the institution wanted more time
to better contextualize the paintings. Yeah. In June, across town,

(37:39):
the First Homosexuals. The Art Institute of Chicago opened a
traveling exhibit of nineteenth century French artist Gustave bots Ci
l l e bo Ttes Cayibots, male focused and arguably
homo erotic work, changing the show's name from Gustav's Calibots
Painting Men to gustav Calibots Painting His World. Katz's Association

(38:05):
curator for the First Homosexuals, Johnny Willis, added, we're not
asking him to say that Gustav was gay. We're asking
them to leave open the possibility and the foreground of
blurridness of these questions in the late nineteenth century. The
Art Museum of Americus and Scottsdale Museum of Contemporary Art
did not respond to NBC for request on commenting of
their cancelizations of the art exhibits of the LGBTQ community.

(38:30):
A lot of the museums are privately funded, according to
one of the experts, so they say they worry about
the witch funding such exhibits. One museum director said to
one of the canceled artists, yours is precisely the exhibition
I'd like to show, and therefore it's the one that
I cannot isn't that a powerful statement from an I

(39:00):
want to make a joke because art is gay. I mean,
going to a museum is about as gay as it
can be, and it's good for you mentally staves off Alzheimer's.
But a lot of artists, a lot of artists were
and are gay. So to try to say, I mean,

(39:23):
are you going to take down Caravaggio's he had many
male affairs, you know, are you going to take Are
you going to destroy the Sistine Chapel because he might
have been taking it up the rump while he painted
the ceiling. I mean, you know, there are so many
very famous artists free to callow. Are you going to
take down every free to callow who famously had affairs

(39:44):
with women? You know? So there's so many artists that
were by or gay or trans or whatever. I just
don't see how they're gonna sanitize it, but they appear
to be trying. But again, I rest on art is gay.
So there we go. What else? What didn't we get

(40:09):
to from you? Did we get? We didn't get to everything.
I don't think there's more bad news. Don't worry, there's
more bad news.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Uh, necessarily always bad it's just controversial and it's just
sort of someone's hot take. I guess something like that
as an opad, but it hasn't changed. Therefore it's not
necessarily bad news, just more of that same news. You know.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
The owners of the Stone wall In has said that JK.
Rowlings has damaged gay people across the world. I never
liked Camilla Parker Bulls. She uh had an affair with
a married man willingly and knowingly. She hurt Princess Diana intentionally.

(40:58):
Uh And as far as I'm concerned, she would never
be queen, and the queen didn't want her to be queen.
She had a different name for her, but after the
queen died, they sort of just said started calling her queen.
When she posed the day of London Gay Pride, Camilla
Parker Bowles took a photo with JK. Rowings. So on

(41:21):
the day that London is celebrating pride, you're going to
take a photo with the world's biggest transphobe turf I
believe is the trans exclusionary radical feminist. It does hurt,
and I think it does hurt an LGBTQ movement when
someone that writes books that are so inclusive and so

(41:46):
multicultural and the last person you would expect. Now she,
surprisingly JK. Rollings, has not said anything about gay people
in general, lesbian, gay men, bisexuals. Her beef is only
with trans and only with male to female trans people.

(42:09):
She has never commented about female to male trans people.
She only comments about male to female trans people. And
she says, you know, you don't bleed, you don't have babies,
you're not a real woman, You've just had a cosmetic surgery.
You know, all this other ridiculous bullshit. My whole thing

(42:31):
about it is, when did we start to listen to
the author of Hufflepuff, you know, a woman who created
fantasies for children. When did we start turning to her
for moral guidance on trans issues? You know what I'm saying.
It's like she writes children's books, and good for her.

(42:53):
And she did write some adult books which did okay,
but not so well under an assumed name. She didn't
write them under her own name. But you know, I
could give two farts which she cares about trans people,
you know, And the only reason that I care is
because it hurts them when she makes these statements, and
millions of people read them. You know it. It hurts

(43:14):
the trans community, but I think most in the trans
community could give a fuck what she says. You know,
who is she. She's a billionaire who made money off
of selling children's novels. She's not a great thinker, she's
not a great scientist, a great theologian's she's a children's
book author. So as far as I'm concerned, her opinion
on the matter. And a quarter will get you, well,

(43:35):
not much anymore. For a quarter. We used to say,
get your phone call, but there's no more pay well,
there's no more payphones. It used to get you a
phone call.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
But payphones, I mean as you can buy a paper
clip and some gum and your mcgarre where you can
go pretty far. But most of us aren't.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
So yeah, so, but I mean it is sad. But
the owners of the stonewall in have come out and
said that that they feel that, you know, she is
hurting people across the globe. I think they're giving her
a little too much credit. But who knows. And that's
the thing. A lot of these stories that we talk about,

(44:13):
these people are so self important. They act like, like
I said, like this guy signing a document suddenly erases
all the gay people in his country. No, it's done nothing,
you asshole. You know, so you got in your silk
robe and you signed a piece of paper with a pen.
Big fucking deal. Gay people are still going to be there.
They're still going to live. They'll avoid your police, but

(44:36):
they're going. We're not going anywhere, and especially to Turkey.
But you know, so this, these people are so self important.
How self important is JK Rowlings that she thinks her
opinion on trans people actually matters? I mean, how self
important is she? She's not a legislature, she doesn't make laws.

(44:59):
She doesn't you know, you know, she might donate to
campaigns that make laws and thus can change outcomes, but
she herself has never run for a public office. She's
not held in high public esteem. Most thirty year olds
are under have no fucking clue she is, unless they
watched the new series on HBO. But you know, so,

(45:21):
I haven't watched it because you know, there's one Harry
Potter and that's Daniel Radcliffe. That's it. No need to
redo it. It's perfect the way it was, even though
she did write it. I read all her books. I
don't have them anymore. I got rid of them, but
I read them all. You know, they were good books.

(45:42):
She's a good author. Her opinions on trans people suck balls,
trans balls fake silicon balls. I'm assuming that.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
She was always nope, being almost sexual, being heterosexual. These
are part and parcel of being a human species. As
I was noting in the last week session, that is
part of the human species. It is ancestral. And so

(46:18):
the question isn't what one famous person has in terms
of an opinion about it or not. The question is
what does fundamentally say about the diversity of human expression
of sexual orientation and desire.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
I think the hardest thing for a human to do
is to say my opinion doesn't matter. That you know,
when asked a question, Oh, when I was on CNN
and they asked my opinion on abortion. It was in
the news and they wanted me to talk about abortion,
and I said, my opinion on abortion doesn't matter, and
they said, what do you mean, of course it matters.

(46:53):
I said, no, it doesn't. I'm a man, I don't
have ovaries, I can't get pregnant. I'm never going to
impregnate a woman. My opinion on abortion does not matter.
It has no relevance in any conversation. I'm not involved,
I'm not a woman, I don't have ovaries. My opinion
on it doesn't matter. They were shocked on CNN that

(47:16):
I would say such a thing.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
If I may. And when there's a derivative from those
it's actually quite nuanced, quite subtle. It's not that you
don't have an opinion, it's that relative to a releatant
to the legislation and policy and so on. In healthcare,
it doesn't matter. And similar for mine and my general
position on a lot of these things is to defer

(47:40):
to the people that have the relevant training and expertise,
and it's their full time job.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
It's why I'm here and you're here. You are a
straight man talking about gay issues. So you bring in
someone who has the lived experience of a gay man
to actually help you find depth to these stories, you know,
because you haven't lived my life, although you could. I mean,
my viewers think would make a cute couple, Well they

(48:06):
just said you were cute. I'm assuming they mean would
make a cute couple. But all that Scott is cute,
hands off, early, hands off.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
So for twenty seven months I worked seven days a
week at the Question farm and a Question facility of
about sixty six five works, depending on how full whe
were that season. I did ranchannel labor, landscaping, gardening and
so on and so forth. Pretty much the only full

(48:35):
time male staff are there. Most of the clients are women.
Most of the staff are women part time at full time.
I remember near the ending of my time in duration
there before then transitioning to the work in traveling to Europe,
particularly in Ukraine and the war. I remember talking to
the stable manager. We talked about things, a very very

(48:59):
nice lady, very hardworking, and we started talking and basically
apparently every staff member and every client had gone to
her because she said intermediary with regards to the full
barn manager and so on. It's a very famous family
accent them. And it basically came to the point of saying,

(49:23):
so like, so everyone literally everyone has asked, so Scott SKay,
you know every like everyone has asked every I had
no idea. Everyone had asked based on how I am.
I guess and no one asked and no one asked

(49:43):
you no, these are It's.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
You can tell I didn't work there, because I'd have
walked right up to you and said, so men, women
are horses. What's your pleasure?

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Well, there's there's there's things that can be discussed only
in certain context. Although that bar some Barnes can be
running that weird way where they separate workers and clientele,
particularly if they're WEALTHI or quite distinctly, and this one
they did quite a mix where regular workers and clientele

(50:18):
and trainers had consistent and common interactions, so there was
more of a lateral set of relationships between.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
And they all wanted to They were asking because they
wanted to ask you out, dude. That's the reason. This
morning at the park, cute man on wheelie cmow as
I call him. He's a cute guy on a wheelie
and he has two Dobermans and he knows I called
him n hello to him every day. So today I'm
although there a missus, cute man on wheelie? Is there

(50:46):
a girlfriend, cute man on wheely or boyfriend?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Now it show.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Side because I am of the generation where you couldn't
really ask, if that makes any sense, you just you
just didn't ask, uh, And now I think to myself
that that those days are gone. You know, you want
to know about someone ask, you know, don't don't just

(51:28):
play coy. But I still think people are taken aback
if you just walk up to them and say, are
you gay? You know this morning at the park? Yes, pardon.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Two things about horse burns. One one are the clients.
I first asked, so, is there such a thing as
barn drama? She paused, She looked at me slyly and
said yes, okay, And that's a the tone for the
next two and two years and three months of work there.

(52:01):
Another thing is gossip and horse girl. Gossip is an
enormous part of horse life equestrian life, and so asking
indirectly is part of the gossip culture there. Also, you
don't want.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
To any man that rides massage is gay. Come on, hello,
let's just me. Come on, you're on a prancing, fucking horse.
Come on.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
I have a jacket from the Major League Show Jumping World,
which is like five star, which is four stars is
Olympic fluestars. I did something really nice for a women,
and an Olympic trainer gave me this very nice and
they have some desert park in California, and I remember
us talking to one of my the person who gave

(52:47):
me the jacket, and he just said at some point, oh,
at least half of the trainers were gay.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Yeah. Hello, it's like fashion, these straight guys that go
into the fashion world and get all upset when the
photographer hits on them. Dude, you're a fucking model. You
know you're in the fashion world. Half of you are
gay and the other half will sleep with anybody to
get a job. So you know, just ask uh. Here

(53:19):
in the United States, twenty one hospitals chest Here in
the United States, twenty one hospitals have ended or restricted
trans care for minors since January. This will be one
of the ones we closed with because this illustrates that
every week when we talk about this stuff, it's not
just policy, it's people's lives. Those twenty one hospitals provided
a valuable service for the trans community, kids, young adults, teens,

(53:44):
and now for twenty one hospitals, that's like saying twenty
one hospitals no longer treat heart attacks. You know, it's
like you're a hospital. You're supposed to provide care, and
they're deciding which care is okay and which care is
not based on the administration in Washington. That is a
dangerous dangerous policy for any hospital to have about anything.

(54:05):
You know, that's like a hospital saying we're not gonna
do the COVID vaccine because we think ivermectin works better
or whatever. You know, it's it's a dangerous, dangerous thing.
And that's why, yes, and that's why policy matters, and
why the tone of the country matters. It's been okay,
and I mean we can close with this because it

(54:27):
is now okay to bash gay people in a way
that it was not okay to do prior to Donald Trump,
you know, just period. I mean under Reagan it was
bad and all of that, but it did get better
in the United States and the world. You know, Ireland.
I bring up Ireland, what is it now? Twelve years ago,
maybe maybe even longer. They passed same sex marriage with

(54:49):
an eighty six percent approval rate in a Catholic country,
a country that identifies as eighty five percent Catholic. And
why how did they get it passed by treating it
as a national pride issue, by saying, these are our people.
They are our children, our uncles, our aunts, These are

(55:12):
Irish people. These are Irish people, and they deserve the
same rights as every other Irish person and they played
to the national pride of the country and that overrode religion,
you know. It did. People that you would have never
thought would have voted for same sex marriage in Ireland did.
And the beauty of a country like Ireland, it's fucking law.

(55:34):
Move on, they don't go back and revisit it. Like abortion,
abortion's legal there a Catholic country, it is legal there.
I don't know. I believe that they have adopted the
EU's vision of trans so I believe that in Ireland
that trans rights are also pretty okay. I did see
some ify stuff there after Trump, after Trump, after Trump

(55:58):
came in. I don't think people realize how long it's
going to take to undo the damage of Donald Trump
Nash internationally, you know, to make it so again. It's
that's why I have this movement now to just laugh
at MAGA, just pity them, feel sorry for them, their
cult members. They're brainwashed there. They worship a felon who
today got told to pay the five million dollars to

(56:20):
Egene Carroll that he owes for practically raping her. You know,
so I feel sorry for them, and soon we will
start laughing at them and making them the pariahs they
once were. And when that happens, anti gay sentiment will
swing back again to pro gay sentiment because young people
your age, you're young young people by far and away,

(56:44):
no matter what the media tries to tell you, approval
for gays and lesbians amongst gen Z, gen y and
millennials off the chart, it's overwhelming, like sixty seventy eighty
percent all think that gay people are fine and should
have rights and all of that. So when the old
farts start to just truly die, we'll start to see

(57:05):
a generational shift. It's going to take ten to fifteen years,
but it's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
I should have a quick footnote of him.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Ay oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
There's two false narratives in American media. One is a
Christian revival among young men. Not happening. No, any statistical
I said that.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
How funny I said that yesterday. I said, turning point
USA would like you to believe that there's this whole
generation of young men turning into this radicalized Christian I'm all,
it's not happening. That's not happening.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
No. I would look into the research of people like
Ryan Burg or other professions who spend all their time
looking at the stuff. That'so point one point two is
in similar in tone run the idea of a conservative
resurgence as well also not true. We have seen that
younger men in say eighteen to twenty five, eighteen to

(58:03):
twenty four are less liberal a bit than prior generations,
but overwhelmingly the trend is progressive orientation.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
And women, I would go further, I would say they
they're not less liberal. Actually, I'd say they're more socialists.
The young people are loving democratic socialist. In this country,
Mandami is a hero. They're loving Mendami and in Colorado
a democratic socialist. Just one, all right, Scott Scott Jacobson
live in the Ukraine. This Gay Week. Tune in every

(58:35):
week for it. Talk about self important broward Republican congressional candidate.
You cannot be born gay because he knows everything. Oh,
thank you so much. Stay safe, please please just just hie.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
No heroics, right, So in more serious tone, it's from
a completely difference.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
No, No, we're gonna go back, forget forget here, let
me let me off. I want to there we go
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Uh yeah, I remember, well the word around the fact
that you wake up and thirty people are killed from
the bombardments. July second was like that, it was thirty
one killed, and obviously it's more injured. I mean then
now hearing we don't have defensive missiles, we have defense

(59:31):
for drones. That's a different story. But the ballistic missiles
cause real damage.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
Right.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
But if I'm not mistaken, aren't like seventy percent of
the attacks drone attacks?

Speaker 4 (59:44):
I probably?

Speaker 3 (59:45):
I mean, how often is Russia lobbing the ballistic missiles?
They're expensive and Russia's running out of money.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Yes, and no, I mean there are overly optimistic interpretations
of the context by some Western media. I don't want
to make a mistake that it's a block obviously, but
in general I thinks are more in the Ukrainian favor
right now, particularly with what they call informal sanctions by
bombing oil refiners and such. Again, that's a whole other conversation.

(01:00:16):
But if you take the May twenty four bombings, if
I remember off the top of mine, please fact took
me if anyone's getting this far into the session today,
about ninety ballistic missiles and sixty drone six hundred drones.
So that's probably about correct. In terms of the seventy
percent number just ballparking, but it varies attack to attack,
and the big attacks were ones like May twenty four,

(01:00:39):
June second, speaking of the mornings, June fifteenth, July second,
July sixth, and likely in the next seventy two hours
as well. This time, though, there are no defensive missiles.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I mean the other day, well, Trump just gave Ukraine
permission to and license to produce the Patriot Defense Missile system.
But isn't that sort of a long term I mean,
it's not like you guys, you guys like I like
your Ukrainian Now, It's not like Ukraine could They couldn't
create that like in a week. You know, it's going

(01:01:14):
to take months to get that up and running or
even a year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
Well, my first preface, I am not a military armament expert.
My first indication is yes, in terms of specifics, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
I'm looking at specific It's going to.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Be very clear when I'm my being here. A couple
of things that are foundational. One, I'm here on the
basis of human rights. I'm here on the basis of
independent reportage. The moral frame here is more clear than
a lot of other wars where there are far more
crimes committed against Ukraine's in vice versa, although there have

(01:01:55):
been crimes committed by Ukrainians. That's part of one part
two eat basis as I am here as a foreigner,
and I'm very mindful of the fact that the future
of Ukrainian society should be determined by Ukrainians. It is
very important to them, and it should be acknowledged because
they're being imposed militarily and propaganda wized by the Russians

(01:02:20):
and being given hello with strings.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Well, what Trump said on Wednesday at NATO was he
was asked directly, would the US send additional Patriot interceptor
missiles until Ukraine can build the system, and he said
the word some. Some could be sent immediately, but he
says the US needs more for itself too, and that

(01:02:46):
the Ukraine could begin to produce its own quote quickly
unquote according to Trump, what that means in the article
it doesn't really say how fast quickly is so he said,
we could say so. It sounds like he's willing to
entertain some in the bridge as a bridge, but we're

(01:03:10):
out of them too. We've used a lot of ours
in Iran, and we're we're running out of that report
cannot yesterday. We're running out of Patriot missiles and they're
something like one point three million dollars each to build.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
So on the pricing and the weapons itself, that's fine
to use at a university across both cases, both cases
in a war context are not the same. The Israeli
American war with run America has.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Oh by the way, I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's four
million dollars per Patriot missile to produce and predace four million's.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Amazingly expensive and probably goes up in price when he
gets shipped and sold externally. Although these ones are going
to be produced a mess. That's that's a different story.
But America has two big anti missile ballistic missile defense systems, Yes,
two oceans on either side. Yes, Ukraine does not.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Right, many a US president has said that we have
been protected from a lot of what the arrest of
the world experiences because of the safety of our oceans.
You know that Europe has had to deal with us, right,
and you know, Europe has had to deal with a
lot of different invaders that we haven't because we have
big bodies of water between US and China. And Russian

(01:04:31):
Europeans shit, you know, as you all melt over, there
six hundred and ninety million dollars to stock a battery
with missiles upon purchase, it's four hundred million for the
physical radar launchers and command components for one single battery
of Patriot missiles, and then it's six hundred and ninety

(01:04:53):
million to stalk that battery. So you're looking at one
point one billion dollars for a fully stopped battery of
Patriot missiles. And because of the highly complex supply chain
involving hundreds of vendors, each missile takes over two years
to build, So that answers our question. There's no way

(01:05:14):
Ukraine can start building their own and and you wouldn't
have them for two years.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
I mean, it would probably need to be something along
the lines of the long term plan of peace when
your contiguous border is enormous with a long time, multi
generational aggressive right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
It's not gonna help the war right now, but it
could help future wars from breaking out, yes, because they
would have these Patriot missiles. All right, Well, Scott, you
stay safe. Every time I fucking wake up and it's
you know, eighteen people dead in Kiev. Oops, he's gone.
Oh well, it is the truth. Though. Every time I
wake up and I see like ten or twelve people

(01:05:59):
dead in Kiev, I worry. And just now he just
disconnected very abruptly. Did he get hit by a missile.
It's really weird when you have a friend in a
war zone. All right, I am Karel, be who you
want to be, son and hurt anybody. Thank you for
joining us on this gay week plus our Ukraine update
with someone that is in Ukraine. I will see you
today is Thursday. I will see you back on Monday

(01:06:21):
unless I am in Tucson with my niece. Her kidney
function was at nineteen percent on Wednesday today. I don't
know what it's at yet, but that's not good, so
I may have to get out there. All right, be safe.
I love you, and until next week, until Monday, I
try to enjoy life. Oh is he back? So I

(01:06:42):
hope he's back. He didn't get hit by a missile.
Oh no, it popped in like he was back. Obviously
he's not hit by a missile because it popped in
Scott I can try to let me see because I'd
like for him to say goodbye. Did you pop back in.

(01:07:03):
We can't hear you or see you if you're there.
Oh no, he popped back out again. I think he's
trying to reconnect. I'm kind of curious, what's going on?
Are you okay? We thought a missile might have come
and bombed you before you said goodbye? Okay, that's acceptable.
It can die. You can't just remember that. But hasn't

(01:07:42):
hasn't that always been in every aren't we isn't that
the same for healthcare in the United States? Why don't
we have universal health care?

Speaker 5 (01:07:51):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
The costs? Well, how much is a human life worth?
You know, I'll close with this story to you to illustrate.
I'll close with this to illustrate how that works. My
sister her partner a man, because now, dasn't you say partner?
Everyone wonders like, oh, is it a girl? Her male

(01:08:12):
partner that she's been with for twenty plus years. I
don't like him. And obviously, now that's a scorpion because
a scorpion bid him. They live in Arizona. Three days ago,
he was out gardening and he reached down and a big,
ugly scorpion bid him. His hand immediately started intense pain.
It moved to his wrist, it went to his elbow.
That's obviously the toxin moving its way up. They rush

(01:08:35):
him to the hospital. By the time he gets to
the hospital, his shoulder is in huge pain. His right
his left rib cage is in huge pain. The doctor
walks in and almost like good news, bad news. I've
got good news. There is an anti toxin for this bite.
But do you have insurance? And he said no, I

(01:08:57):
don't have insurance. And he said, then I can't give
you the anti tooxin because it's fifty thousand dollars. It's
ten thousand dollars a vial, and it will take five
vials over the next two hours to treat you. And
so they're like, well, what's going to happen, And he said,
I have to do palliative care on you for eight

(01:09:17):
hours to treat whatever symptoms pop up. And if you code,
or if you start drooling, or if you lose vision,
or if you start twitching uncontrollably, then I can give
you the antitoxin. But whereas you don't have insurance, that
is the only way I can give it to you.

(01:09:40):
So his life was worth fifty thousand dollars. That's how
much his life was worth. I told my sister to say,
I said, you should have said, just give him the shot.
We'll pay for it. And then when you get the bill,
do what everyone else doesn't file bankruptcy. But you know,
so that's what a human life was worth in Arizona,
fifty grand. So we're constantly faced with that question.

Speaker 5 (01:10:02):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
And unfortunately a human life thing worth much that you
know they're willing to sacrifice them for to be cannon fodder.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
And it's really sad. Yeah, there are many people in
this country that will slit your fucking throat for five dollars.
You know, I watch all these murdered death kill shows.
We I mean, I don't want to keep you, but
we talk about not being a Christian nation. I just
found a show on Netflix called Worst Neighbor Ever. And

(01:10:32):
it's all these stories where a neighbor kills another neighbor
and I thought, and I bet they're Christians. I bet
I bet their Christians. But what happened to love thy neighbor?
You know? I just watched one last night. This lady
across the street was a nut and the other neighbor

(01:10:52):
couldn't take it anymore, went across the street and slapped
the shit out of her, didn't harm her, just knocked
her down. She are arrested and put in jail for
eighteen months. But the cops were like, this is simple assault.
She's going to get anger management and probation. That wasn't
enough for that woman, so she picked up a gun,
walked across the street and shot them both and then

(01:11:14):
blamed the system, said it was the system's fault. And
I've seen many shows where they go rob someone and
they get five or ten dollars and they killed one
or two people for five or a car. They hijacked
them in a car and they kill them to take
their car, which is worth you know, ten grand. It's
just it's the cost of a human life isn't much

(01:11:36):
these days, particularly a gay life. And we'll just leave
it at that. I am kral be who you want
to be selling to hurt anybody. Scott stays safe. We
will see you next week.

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