June 19, 2026 • 30 mins
THIS GAY WEEK: Turkey Cracks Down, Japan Opens Up — LGBTQ Rights Head in Opposite Directions
THIS GAY WEEK | June 19, 2026
The fight for LGBTQ equality is taking dramatically different turns around the world.
This week, Karel and Scott Jacobsen of The Good Men Project join forces live from Kyiv, Ukraine, to break down the biggest LGBTQ news stories making headlines worldwide.
⚾ Pride Night controversy is exploding in professional baseball. After high-profile clashes involving Pride celebrations, some players are drawing attention by displaying Bible verses while teams struggle to balance inclusion, religion, and fan expectations. One team made headlines by choosing LGBTQ inclusion over competition, even forfeiting a game rather than abandoning Pride Night.
🌍 Turkey is moving sharply backward on LGBTQ rights, advancing harsh new laws that critics say could criminalize even discussing or acknowledging LGBTQ identities.
🇯🇵 Meanwhile, Japan is taking a very different path. The government has launched a nationwide effort to increase understanding and acceptance of LGBTQ people, raising questions about how societies learn to embrace diversity.
Plus: global LGBTQ headlines, culture, politics, and the stories impacting our community right now.
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THIS GAY WEEK | June 19, 2026
The fight for LGBTQ equality is taking dramatically different turns around the world.
This week, Karel and Scott Jacobsen of The Good Men Project join forces live from Kyiv, Ukraine, to break down the biggest LGBTQ news stories making headlines worldwide.
⚾ Pride Night controversy is exploding in professional baseball. After high-profile clashes involving Pride celebrations, some players are drawing attention by displaying Bible verses while teams struggle to balance inclusion, religion, and fan expectations. One team made headlines by choosing LGBTQ inclusion over competition, even forfeiting a game rather than abandoning Pride Night.
🌍 Turkey is moving sharply backward on LGBTQ rights, advancing harsh new laws that critics say could criminalize even discussing or acknowledging LGBTQ identities.
🇯🇵 Meanwhile, Japan is taking a very different path. The government has launched a nationwide effort to increase understanding and acceptance of LGBTQ people, raising questions about how societies learn to embrace diversity.
Plus: global LGBTQ headlines, culture, politics, and the stories impacting our community right now.
Join the conversation live and let us know where you think the world is heading.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here, no time to fear.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Corrall is so near because show time is here.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
So on with the show.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Let's give it a go. Corrella is the one that
you need to know.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Now it's show side.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It is time for a special half hour edition.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Of This Gay Week, including professional baseball teams are canceling games?
Why what the hell is going on in Turkey? We'll
talk about that. Will Margaret Thatcher's policy come under review?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Finally? Yes? And so much more?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
All right, it is This Gay Week with the at
the Correl Show with Scott Jacobson for the good Man Project,
normally in Canada, but now he is in Ukraine. Uh,
And we do this every week to entertain you all
and tell you what's going on in the world of gayness,
one of us being gay, the other being gay adjacent.
I'll let you figure out which one is which. But
(01:13):
he'd be a cuter gay than me. You'd be a
bigger hit in the gay community than I am. Actually,
but hey, that is correct. Yeah, no, I believe me.
I know I'm gay. I know I know these things.
All right, let's kick right into it. There's a couple
of things going on and I know that. I'll let
you I'll let you lead and I'll give you my
(01:33):
comments on the stories, but I did want to start
with this. We have touched upon this on a couple
of weeks now, and I'm starting to see an alarming
trend on social media of gays and lesbian gay men
mostly who are out there saying I don't want to
be part of the alphabet anymore. I don't I don't
have anything in common with trans people. You know, I
don't have anything in common with queer people. I don't
(01:55):
even know what intersecty is or you know, blah blah blah.
I would just like to go on record here with
you and everyone else is saying, shut the fuck up.
The reason that we have all banded together, which escapes
your young, warped little gen X gen Z gen y minds,
millennial minds, is that there's power in numbers. If gays
(02:17):
are a small percentage of the population, we need a
group in order to have a voice, to have a
voting block, in order to have economic power, and that
means we have to have allies. When gays became gays
and lesbians, I have nothing in common with lesbians. I
don't have plat and I don't have cats, and yet
(02:38):
we were a larger voting block with lesbians on our side.
The same thing with the trans community. We are a
voting block, we are an economic block, and we are
stronger together, which is why the marginalized communities of sexuality.
There's many marginalized communities, but the marginalized communities that deal
with sexual orientation or sexuality have banded together. And that's
(03:03):
because we're all in the same boat. And we need
a larger voice in politics and a larger voice in
corporate America. And we're not going to get that if
all the letters are off fractioned on their own. So
for those of you that don't think we need the
T in LGBT, you don't know crap about your history.
For those of you that don't think you out don't
(03:24):
have anything in common with trans people, or with lesbians
or with by people, then you've never met any. So,
as far as I'm concerned, that is an infuriating argument.
It's an infurigating, infuriating group of stories. And I say,
any gay person that is out there talking this shit
needs to shut up and do some history lessons. But
(03:47):
that's just me. That's just me, all right. Now to
the story as at hand. Pick your play roulette, pick one,
let's talk.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think we should go with yours first. I think
it's a perfectly fine story. So sf Gate by Alex Simon,
Sports editor, noting that San Francisco Giants saga has been
lingering in the indie team forfeits Pride game over player protests.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
The title reads, Yes. Now.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
The saga, by the way with the Giants is that
the Giants having a Pride night, and several of their
players objected, didn't want to wear the costumes. Blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Uh, And so
there was drama and the Giants had to do things
and and so now another team was going to have
a Pride night, the York Revolution, it's called uh, And
(04:36):
they were going to have a Pride Night and they
were gonna wear rainbow colored outfits and everything. Several of
the players decided to be homophobes and say, we don't
want to do it. We don't want to do it.
So instead of having the game and not having the
Pride night, they canceled the game. They said, you know what,
and and I say, good for the for the the
franchise because instead of compromising or instead of you know whatever,
(05:01):
they said, no, our values are we support the gay
and lesbian community, and if you players don't want to
support the community, then we're not going to let you play.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
We just won't even have the game.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
So I support what they did when several of their
players refused to wear the scheduled Pride Night jersey, and
the club decided that hosting the event is more important
than forcing players to wear jerseys they are not comfortable
with and playing the game as a result. Out of
respect for the Pride community and the York community as
a whole, the York Revolution has decided that the game
(05:33):
on Thursday, June eighteenth, which is tonight, yesterday, actually yesterday evening,
will be forfeited and that Pride Night will continue on
as the featured elements of the evening at the Wellspan Park.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
So they still had the Pride Night at realcill dot com.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
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Speaker 3 (06:02):
Show Time is here.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
No time to fear.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Correll is so near because showtime is here.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
So on with the show let's give it a go.
Correll is the one that you need to know.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And I say good for this team. They still had
the pride night. They just said to the players, Hey,
you don't want to play, then guess what. You're not
gonna play. We'll forfeit the game. You'll lose the game.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Uh. Now, the Revolution and the Blue Crabs.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Who they were going to play? Which if your name
is the Blue Crabs, how could you be anti gay?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Play in the Atlantic League of Professional Baseball are not
affiliated with any major league clubs. But this is some
of the drama. The Dodgers had a pride night. Some
of their players objected, didn't want to play, didn't want
to wear the outfits, and some decided to wear Bible
versus on their baseball caps. And when the when the teams?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
They when the team in San Francisco and the team
in LA decided that they were going to find any
players that did that. Several Christian organizations and Christian stars
came forward and said they would pay the fines of
those players because their homophobia knows no bounds either. But
(07:15):
congratulations to the Revolution. At least they still had the
pride night. Even though they didn't have the game, so
the players lost out, but not the gay people, so
good for them. I don't know how in Canada do they,
like do your sports team celebrate pride at all?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I don't think much bones are made about it one
way or the other. A do weekly series with the
Color from New York's currently traveling, and we've done it
for at least a half a year now, and every
time there's more prominent stories around anti Semitic violence than
(07:55):
anti gay rhetoric or activities particular on sports. That doesn't
tend to come up as much.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I mean because obviously, look, I've never understood pride, Knight
should baseball this and that. I'm not a sports fan,
and while I know there are gay and lesbian sports fans,
I don't know many. However, for some reason, softball and
baseball seems to be like a sport the gays play.
There's tons of gay softball teams, so I can see
gays going to a baseball thing, you know. I mean,
(08:27):
I thought we would be attracted to things like I
don't know, WWE or some you know, half naked men
and speedos, but but they they there is a large
group of gay men and women that like, you know baseball. Now,
the communications director, someone high ranking in the Dodgers, is
actually a friend of mine. He used to be the
program director at KBC Radio uh and and he is
(08:50):
gay and his husband and he got married on the
field at Dodger Stadium because they you know, he's high
ranking there in their in their ranks, and so I
know they they have many pro gay people they're working
in the Dodgers. I know the Dodgers try to be
pro gay, but their history with it is kind of bad.
They canceled an event with the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
(09:12):
and got flack for that a few years back. So
the Dodgers have been iffy on gay rights. The Giants,
you would think, the San Francisco Giants. Hello, you're in
San Francisco and you're called the Giants. That attracts gay
people right there, you know, So you would think there
wouldn't be any of their players that were homophobic, But
obviously there are. I'm religious phobic. So they want to
(09:37):
go out there and spread their religion and keep that
off the field. But this is happening. Look, Pride Month
is under attack from politicians who are passing you know,
family month, their nuclear family month from sports teams who
are now allowing their players to rebel. And it's directly
(09:58):
related to Donald Trump and the anti trans, anti gay
rhetoric that Donald Trump and his ilk are putting out there.
But this month, we need pride more than ever, and
it appears to be being canceled more than ever. So
that's I haven't from gay people. I just read an
editorial at Salon from a gay guy who thinks that
Pride doesn't include him because he's not quote a typical gay.
(10:20):
I'm like, does this young queen even know what the
hell he's talking about?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
He just did a two thousand word essay and I
read the entire thing and I thought, this man, he's
blowing about his ass. He doesn't know a thing. Oh
but pride is now become a commodity and it's not
a protest, and yes, it's commercial now, but that doesn't
mean it's not a protest, and it doesn't mean that
it's not needed. So anyway, next story, the principle.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yeah, exactly, motivation all right.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Next next one, Human Rights watches in morning that Turkey
uh is reviving proposals to criminalize LGBT expression, restriction from
in care, race surgical eligibility two twenty five, require sterilization,
and penalize providers. Human Rights Watch has been saying that
(11:11):
this visure's of violate privacy, health, legal recognition, equality, and
international human rights obligations. Turkey is one of those in
between countries, and we're seeing some significant repression coming out
of them. What are your thoughts on these and does
this buck any trend that well?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
As Hungary is going in the opposite direction getting rid
of their anti gay laws here, we have Turkey going
in the exact opposite direction. So it's sort of a
yin and a yang. We're winning over here, we're.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Losing over here, which is fine.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
First of all, Turkish prisons are synonymous with gay sex.
I saw the movie Midnight Express, So I don't know
what they're all up in arms about over in Turkey.
And your country is called Turkey for the love of God,
you know, gobble gobble hello, But anyway, you would think
they'd be welcome. Name of gays, we gobble. But it's
(12:05):
it's religion, okay, And it's it's religion that's been entrenched
for thousands, you know, of years, which is odd because
Turkey back before you know, when we let's go back
to Istanbul if you'd like, or Constantinople or whatever.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
But Turkey used to be a very liberal, very.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Arts centered country, you know, in ancient history and was
very accepting. It's only of late that Turkey has decided
to go the other direction. Uh, And that is because
of the influenced religion. Religion is having on their politics.
Also the countries that Turkey allies itself with and their policies. Remember,
(12:47):
you know Turkey, sometimes they're friends with Russia, sometimes they're not.
But we know that Russia's anti gay, h you know,
Turkey and China. So it's not just what's going on
inside of Turkey, it's what do the leader have to
gain geo politically by being anti gay. So if by
being anti gay Turkey gains political allies, they'll do it.
(13:10):
It's sad and if you're gay and you live in Turkey,
leave But that's the way it is right now. And yes,
everything that the Human Rights Watch has said it's true.
In other words, it will do all of those things.
It will cause harm, it will cause damage, it will
cause but the Turkish government doesn't care you know, and
then the question is going to become are the courts
(13:31):
going to enforce these laws?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Are they going to mandate sterilization? You know?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
How how far is this going to go? But it's
going in the wrong direction. And if I were gay,
I'd think twice about living in Turkey right now.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I just would. I would take my money.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
And but there are some who seeing that, we always
talk about this, and I flippantly say, why don't they
get out? As you know, I'm trapped in America. I
can't leave. I don't have the money to leave the
United States. I have a couple hundred dollars if I
sell my house, that's not enough to go start a
life anew somewhere. So I relate that if you're gay
(14:08):
in Turkey, what are you going to do? I mean,
because you can't leave. I get it. The sad statement
is that you're going to suffer right now until you're
able to rally enough people and until it is politically, well,
until there's an advantage politically for them to change their rules.
(14:28):
Right now, there isn't. They're headed in a very conservative direction.
They're happy to be headed in that direction. They're getting
support from other nations to go in that direction. So
they're going in that direction. When the money pendulum swings
and suddenly it's more profitable for Turkey to welcome gays,
they will. But until it's profitable and until some of
their allies do it, they're going to keep making anti
(14:49):
gay loss.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Another effectors both as now so think are important. Typically,
a lot of these countries they don't share audiological governance systems.
North Korea necrocratic, Russia, autocratic, China, communist, ron Islamic, theocratic
with a bit of plasers public Turkey Islamic. A primary
(15:14):
key factor in all those things that unite them are
powerful men who don't have necessary term limits, or they
get the term limits extended, and so they can really
impose these policies over a longer period of time. That's
part one, Part two. A lot of these domination based
systems come associated with rigid gender identities. Yeah, so any
(15:38):
deviancy is then punished, and this.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Which is ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I've never understood why governments concern themselves with sexuality or
sexual orientation. I will never understand that they have other bits. Look,
Turkey has bigger fish to fry than who's dork and
who I mean, you know, basically a lot of them
live in mud huts. The economy is not great. One
of their biggest exports is hazel nuts, believe it or not,
and those crops are failing, so economically they're not doing well.
(16:04):
They have child labor picking the hazel nuts, which is
why vegans are protesting against hazel nuts. I'm not I
love nutella, well, vegan nutellah, but you know they're using
child labor to pick this, so they have child labor
issues there. They have a lot of issues in Turkey
that they could be addressing to help their people.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
This is not one of them.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
I mean, in May, they they they literally prosecuted a
singer in May. He was acquitted, but he stood trial
for a song that he's saying that alleged same sex desire,
and they arrested the guy and he had to go
to court.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
They acquitted him.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I guess it wasn't a good song, but you know,
it certainly wasn't I'm too sexy for my shirt. But
you know, they as a singer they had, you know,
they put a singer on trial, so right now it's
bad to be gay in Turkey. I hope that some
of the people there seek asylum in other countries and
can get out any way they can until it gets better.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Do you want to pick the next two on me too?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
You go, it's technically your segment. So I like this
one of Pink News.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Ah, we're recording out a petition seeking a public choir
into section twenty eight. Yes, Margaret Thatchers, we're HARKing way
back anti LGBT law thinking schools.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Hey watch it, dude. I remember when they when they
put that in place. I was in my twenties.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
You're still in your twenties.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, well, you know, boy George, Boy George had a lot.
Boy George had a.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Lot to say about Section twenty eight back when he was,
you know, twenty, because he was in his twenties.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
As well.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Part of Boy George and Lee Boweries, who boy George
copied entire persona, was to flip off Margaret Thatcher. The
roof of punk music are in the youth rebellion to
Margaret Thatcher and section twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
So we owe a lot to the anger.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
That came about after Section twenty eight and because it
was such a ridiculous law, which we report here on
laws in other countries that were like this law. Section
twenty eight said you couldn't promote LGBTQ causes.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
They wanted books removed from schools. You know. It was
basically a gay band.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And the backlash to Section twenty eight has now made
the UK one of the best places in the world
for gays. So I don't want to say they kind
of owe that to Margaret Thatcher being such an ass,
but because she went so far to the right. Now
in the UK, gay rights are very much to the left,
and so, you know, again a pendulum. She swung it
(18:59):
this way and then it swung back this way. But
I think it's great that they're going to do an
inquisition into it because it really damaged.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
People over there.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Kids were harmed, people were violence was perpetrated, benefits were denied.
You know, bad things happened under section twenty eight, and
there should be some sort of repercussion for that. She's
long gone, but others aren't.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Sure. Yeah, set fired at that true roof.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, well it was.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Remember it went from eighty eight from when I was
twenty six years old until two thousand and three. It
was only repealed twenty three years ago.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
So that's yes, I believe it was Tony Blair. Yes.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Students then were not able to get supported schools, staff
were forced to hide their identity fearing they'd be sacked.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I mean it was bad. It was a witch hunt.
Next one sure, okay.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Oh by the way, Scotland repealed it in two thousand
before the UK.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Go Scotland, Yeah, go Scott.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I've always held that Scottish people with their accent are
the best storytellers.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
I will tell you right now. There's a scott guy
on Apple Fitness Plus main Dan. Oh my god, Oh
my god. I'd moved to Scotland just to marry him.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So The Guardian has reported or described as sole Pride
sore during tens of thousands, despite LGBTT plus protections, religious
opposition and continued exclusion from Soul Plaza, participate celebrated visibility
much to support legal progress while urging lawmakers and companies
to stop ignoring queer Koreans publicly.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Well and the mayor of Seoul said he can't support homosexuality.
He said that holding pride at the city's main square
is not desirable, but the organizers of the event said,
just stop pretending. We don't exist. We're here work, we
get used to uh. And so they turned out in probe,
tens of thousands.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Of people board into central Soul to celebrate.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
And I don't see why he doesn't like that. That's
a shit ton of money just got bored into Soul
in first dollars and hotels and food and everything else lubricant.
Uh so you know, I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
State no is show.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
So they couldn't have it in the town square, but
they did have it at a festival ground in another location. Uh,
they had university clubs, Diplomatic missions, including the British Embassy
came and days earlier a Soul court had offered a
rare step forward for these people, ruling that a same
sex couple who had their lives and finances constituted a
(22:02):
protected legal union, even as same sex marriage is not
legally recognized in South Korea, which is odd because South
Korea is progressive it is, and it's odd that this
is still. Of course, it's the Asian world, and there
are two places where it's really tough to be gay,
the Asian world and the Muslim world, and those two
(22:23):
worlds overlap. A lot of South Asians and such are Muslim,
and so there's a heavy Muslim and believe it or not, Buddhist,
who are supposed to be all non mio horng gay
kill and all of that, there have not been that
accepting of gay people.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
They are now, you know, the Dali Lama.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Has sort of evolved, but he wasn't always so pro gay,
which is odd for a group of people who wear.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Orange dresses that they wouldn't, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
But so in Southeast Asia and Korea and other places,
it's still rough. It's well, it's a rough every where,
but it's rough in South Korea, and it shouldn't be
because they're very progressive there.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Should add, we don't necessarily have the strength of numbers
with regards to the religious in South Korea because as
one of the largest atheist, no no religious affiliation populations
in the world. And so it's.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
It's yeah, but it's still the Protestants there, who are
only one fifth of the of the population, who are
the ones that are the most vocal in their opposition
to pride. So interesting, so the Protestants are the ones
who are causing the problem. And even though there are
only one fifth of the population, they're allowed one fifth
and others listen.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Next right, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Them reports that the Trump administration is going to restore
nine eight eighths specialized LGBTQ plus youth crisis land by
year's end after eliminating it official site congressional direction, but
advocates remained skeptical as implementation clashes with federal policies denying
transgender recognition and in collusion. So we're seeing again, as
(24:10):
you're noting international pendulum swings, we're also noting domestic.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
No, if they're allowing this, it's because they're afraid of
getting sued or they're afraid of a court compelling them
to do it. They would not do it out of
the goodness of their heart or because it's the right
thing to do. The Trump administration wouldn't know the right
thing to do if it jumped up and bit them
in the ass.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
So that it's not the Christian's love for us that
prevents them from burning us at the stake, it's the
impotence of their love.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Right.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
So this was based on a lawsuit, and you know,
instead of you know, fighting the lawsuit, they decided to
let's go ahead and do it. And also a lot
of them are running and dead kids aren't a good
platform to run on, So you know, I mean, I
mean truly, the HHS spokesperson said, working with the nine
(25:05):
eight eight network administrator Vibrant Emotional Health to reactivate PRESS
three operations. It was Press three if You're gay by
the end of the year. The spokesperson described the effort
as part of Congress's Fiscal year twenty twenty six directive
to restore the services. So Congress had to tell them
to do it, and Congress already had the money allocated,
so they're like, do it. This was not something they
(25:26):
wanted to do, but a bipartisan group of lawmakers obtained
earlier by the advocate the Substance Abuse and Mental Health
Service Administration set on behalf of the HHS Robert Kennedy
Junior that is evaluating how to restore the nine eight
eight lifeline Specialized Services for LGBTQ youth, commonly known as
PRESS three, following Congress's direction, and I believe that Congress
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put a caveat in there. I'd have to double check
in the story where the other funding was tied to this.
So if they didn't do this, they weren't going to
get other money. So they said, oh, fuck it, we'll
just do it to get this money. So but believe
me if they were forced to buy Congress and it
was over money, but they did it. However, don't get
too happy, because the agency said that restoration would need
(26:12):
to comply with Donald Trump's executive order, which requires federal
agencies to recognize only two genders and reject federal recognition
of transgendered identity. So how are you going to set
up a not a press three option for people who
are trans and questioning if you can't talk to them
about being trans in questioning. So again, this will probably
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end up in court.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
We'll see. But you know, but good for Congress legislative
to raise people.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Well yeah, I mean, at least, look, Congress is pretty
useless at this point, but at least Congress could not
have been clearer. The Trump administration must restore the nine
eight eight lifeline.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
They must.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Congress did not leave them, you know, they said the
president cannot executive orders, cannot override FED law, and Congress
already settled this question. So Congress already set up this hotline.
They already said it was going to be for trans people,
gay people, by people, and his executive order can't override that,
which I'm sure he's pissed about.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Next.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Next, good news from UCA News talking about faith leaders
welcoming Japan's first National LGBT Awareness Plan. Cabinet approved framework
calling for training, research, public education, consultation systems, will affirming
unjust discrimination is unacceptable across businesses, governments, schools, local communities
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and workplaces nationwide.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Did you see the Buddhist monk in the story that
was interviewed declined to give his name. The Buddhist leader
cautioned that changing social attitudes would take time. Okay, I
applaud Japan for this, I do. It's just kind of
insulting as a gay man that you have to actually
counsel people and tell people how not to discriminate against gays.
(28:11):
I mean, it seems pretty simple. Just treat everybody like
you want to be treated fairly, period, end of story.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
So it's kind of odd to me.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
That the national Cabinet's decision to adopt a plan aim
to promoting public understanding of gay people and other sexual minorities.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
What is there to understand?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
You know, we're human, and instead of going when people
of the opposite gender, we go with the people of
the same gender.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
That's not hard to understand.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
So I don't I get it, and good for them,
But I think all across the globe we make far
too much about.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
The complex issue of day. It's not hard.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Treat us like you treat anyone else. There you go,
that's it.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
If I could peat anybody.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yet also footnote it don't have to understand something.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
So parts well, we'll end with that.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
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All right, it is This Gay Week with the at
the Correl Show with Scott Jacobson for the good Man Project,
normally in Canada, but now he is in Ukraine. Uh,
And we do this every week to entertain you all
and tell you what's going on in the world of gayness,
one of us being gay, the other being gay adjacent.
I'll let you figure out which one is which. But
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he'd be a cuter gay than me. You'd be a
bigger hit in the gay community than I am. Actually,
but hey, that is correct. Yeah, no, I believe me.
I know I'm gay. I know I know these things.
All right, let's kick right into it. There's a couple
of things going on and I know that. I'll let
you I'll let you lead and I'll give you my
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comments on the stories, but I did want to start
with this. We have touched upon this on a couple
of weeks now, and I'm starting to see an alarming
trend on social media of gays and lesbian gay men
mostly who are out there saying I don't want to
be part of the alphabet anymore. I don't I don't
have anything in common with trans people. You know, I
don't have anything in common with queer people. I don't
(01:55):
even know what intersecty is or you know, blah blah blah.
I would just like to go on record here with
you and everyone else is saying, shut the fuck up.
The reason that we have all banded together, which escapes
your young, warped little gen X gen Z gen y minds,
millennial minds, is that there's power in numbers. If gays
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are a small percentage of the population, we need a
group in order to have a voice, to have a
voting block, in order to have economic power, and that
means we have to have allies. When gays became gays
and lesbians, I have nothing in common with lesbians. I
don't have plat and I don't have cats, and yet
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we were a larger voting block with lesbians on our side.
The same thing with the trans community. We are a
voting block, we are an economic block, and we are
stronger together, which is why the marginalized communities of sexuality.
There's many marginalized communities, but the marginalized communities that deal
with sexual orientation or sexuality have banded together. And that's
(03:03):
because we're all in the same boat. And we need
a larger voice in politics and a larger voice in
corporate America. And we're not going to get that if
all the letters are off fractioned on their own. So
for those of you that don't think we need the
T in LGBT, you don't know crap about your history.
For those of you that don't think you out don't
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have anything in common with trans people, or with lesbians
or with by people, then you've never met any. So,
as far as I'm concerned, that is an infuriating argument.
It's an infurigating, infuriating group of stories. And I say,
any gay person that is out there talking this shit
needs to shut up and do some history lessons. But
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that's just me. That's just me, all right. Now to
the story as at hand. Pick your play roulette, pick one,
let's talk.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think we should go with yours first. I think
it's a perfectly fine story. So sf Gate by Alex Simon,
Sports editor, noting that San Francisco Giants saga has been
lingering in the indie team forfeits Pride game over player protests.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
The title reads, Yes. Now.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
The saga, by the way with the Giants is that
the Giants having a Pride night, and several of their
players objected, didn't want to wear the costumes. Blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Uh, And so
there was drama and the Giants had to do things
and and so now another team was going to have
a Pride night, the York Revolution, it's called uh, And
(04:36):
they were going to have a Pride Night and they
were gonna wear rainbow colored outfits and everything. Several of
the players decided to be homophobes and say, we don't
want to do it. We don't want to do it.
So instead of having the game and not having the
Pride night, they canceled the game. They said, you know what,
and and I say, good for the for the the
franchise because instead of compromising or instead of you know whatever,
(05:01):
they said, no, our values are we support the gay
and lesbian community, and if you players don't want to
support the community, then we're not going to let you play.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
We just won't even have the game.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
So I support what they did when several of their
players refused to wear the scheduled Pride Night jersey, and
the club decided that hosting the event is more important
than forcing players to wear jerseys they are not comfortable
with and playing the game as a result. Out of
respect for the Pride community and the York community as
a whole, the York Revolution has decided that the game
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on Thursday, June eighteenth, which is tonight, yesterday, actually yesterday evening,
will be forfeited and that Pride Night will continue on
as the featured elements of the evening at the Wellspan Park.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
So they still had the Pride Night at realcill dot com.
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Speaker 5 (06:18):
And I say good for this team. They still had
the pride night. They just said to the players, Hey,
you don't want to play, then guess what. You're not
gonna play. We'll forfeit the game. You'll lose the game.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Uh. Now, the Revolution and the Blue Crabs.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Who they were going to play? Which if your name
is the Blue Crabs, how could you be anti gay?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Play in the Atlantic League of Professional Baseball are not
affiliated with any major league clubs. But this is some
of the drama. The Dodgers had a pride night. Some
of their players objected, didn't want to play, didn't want
to wear the outfits, and some decided to wear Bible
versus on their baseball caps. And when the when the teams?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
They when the team in San Francisco and the team
in LA decided that they were going to find any
players that did that. Several Christian organizations and Christian stars
came forward and said they would pay the fines of
those players because their homophobia knows no bounds either. But
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congratulations to the Revolution. At least they still had the
pride night. Even though they didn't have the game, so
the players lost out, but not the gay people, so
good for them. I don't know how in Canada do they,
like do your sports team celebrate pride at all?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I don't think much bones are made about it one
way or the other. A do weekly series with the
Color from New York's currently traveling, and we've done it
for at least a half a year now, and every
time there's more prominent stories around anti Semitic violence than
(07:55):
anti gay rhetoric or activities particular on sports. That doesn't
tend to come up as much.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I mean because obviously, look, I've never understood pride, Knight
should baseball this and that. I'm not a sports fan,
and while I know there are gay and lesbian sports fans,
I don't know many. However, for some reason, softball and
baseball seems to be like a sport the gays play.
There's tons of gay softball teams, so I can see
gays going to a baseball thing, you know. I mean,
(08:27):
I thought we would be attracted to things like I
don't know, WWE or some you know, half naked men
and speedos, but but they they there is a large
group of gay men and women that like, you know baseball. Now,
the communications director, someone high ranking in the Dodgers, is
actually a friend of mine. He used to be the
program director at KBC Radio uh and and he is
(08:50):
gay and his husband and he got married on the
field at Dodger Stadium because they you know, he's high
ranking there in their in their ranks, and so I
know they they have many pro gay people they're working
in the Dodgers. I know the Dodgers try to be
pro gay, but their history with it is kind of bad.
They canceled an event with the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
(09:12):
and got flack for that a few years back. So
the Dodgers have been iffy on gay rights. The Giants,
you would think, the San Francisco Giants. Hello, you're in
San Francisco and you're called the Giants. That attracts gay
people right there, you know, So you would think there
wouldn't be any of their players that were homophobic, But
obviously there are. I'm religious phobic. So they want to
(09:37):
go out there and spread their religion and keep that
off the field. But this is happening. Look, Pride Month
is under attack from politicians who are passing you know,
family month, their nuclear family month from sports teams who
are now allowing their players to rebel. And it's directly
(09:58):
related to Donald Trump and the anti trans, anti gay
rhetoric that Donald Trump and his ilk are putting out there.
But this month, we need pride more than ever, and
it appears to be being canceled more than ever. So
that's I haven't from gay people. I just read an
editorial at Salon from a gay guy who thinks that
Pride doesn't include him because he's not quote a typical gay.
(10:20):
I'm like, does this young queen even know what the
hell he's talking about?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
He just did a two thousand word essay and I
read the entire thing and I thought, this man, he's
blowing about his ass. He doesn't know a thing. Oh
but pride is now become a commodity and it's not
a protest, and yes, it's commercial now, but that doesn't
mean it's not a protest, and it doesn't mean that
it's not needed. So anyway, next story, the principle.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yeah, exactly, motivation all right.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Next next one, Human Rights watches in morning that Turkey
uh is reviving proposals to criminalize LGBT expression, restriction from
in care, race surgical eligibility two twenty five, require sterilization,
and penalize providers. Human Rights Watch has been saying that
(11:11):
this visure's of violate privacy, health, legal recognition, equality, and
international human rights obligations. Turkey is one of those in
between countries, and we're seeing some significant repression coming out
of them. What are your thoughts on these and does
this buck any trend that well?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
As Hungary is going in the opposite direction getting rid
of their anti gay laws here, we have Turkey going
in the exact opposite direction. So it's sort of a
yin and a yang. We're winning over here, we're.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Losing over here, which is fine.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
First of all, Turkish prisons are synonymous with gay sex.
I saw the movie Midnight Express, So I don't know
what they're all up in arms about over in Turkey.
And your country is called Turkey for the love of God,
you know, gobble gobble hello, But anyway, you would think
they'd be welcome. Name of gays, we gobble. But it's
(12:05):
it's religion, okay, And it's it's religion that's been entrenched
for thousands, you know, of years, which is odd because
Turkey back before you know, when we let's go back
to Istanbul if you'd like, or Constantinople or whatever.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
But Turkey used to be a very liberal, very.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Arts centered country, you know, in ancient history and was
very accepting. It's only of late that Turkey has decided
to go the other direction. Uh, And that is because
of the influenced religion. Religion is having on their politics.
Also the countries that Turkey allies itself with and their policies. Remember,
(12:47):
you know Turkey, sometimes they're friends with Russia, sometimes they're not.
But we know that Russia's anti gay, h you know,
Turkey and China. So it's not just what's going on
inside of Turkey, it's what do the leader have to
gain geo politically by being anti gay. So if by
being anti gay Turkey gains political allies, they'll do it.
(13:10):
It's sad and if you're gay and you live in Turkey,
leave But that's the way it is right now. And yes,
everything that the Human Rights Watch has said it's true.
In other words, it will do all of those things.
It will cause harm, it will cause damage, it will
cause but the Turkish government doesn't care you know, and
then the question is going to become are the courts
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going to enforce these laws?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Are they going to mandate sterilization? You know?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
How how far is this going to go? But it's
going in the wrong direction. And if I were gay,
I'd think twice about living in Turkey right now.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I just would. I would take my money.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
And but there are some who seeing that, we always
talk about this, and I flippantly say, why don't they
get out? As you know, I'm trapped in America. I
can't leave. I don't have the money to leave the
United States. I have a couple hundred dollars if I
sell my house, that's not enough to go start a
life anew somewhere. So I relate that if you're gay
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in Turkey, what are you going to do? I mean,
because you can't leave. I get it. The sad statement
is that you're going to suffer right now until you're
able to rally enough people and until it is politically, well,
until there's an advantage politically for them to change their rules.
(14:28):
Right now, there isn't. They're headed in a very conservative direction.
They're happy to be headed in that direction. They're getting
support from other nations to go in that direction. So
they're going in that direction. When the money pendulum swings
and suddenly it's more profitable for Turkey to welcome gays,
they will. But until it's profitable and until some of
their allies do it, they're going to keep making anti
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gay loss.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Another effectors both as now so think are important. Typically,
a lot of these countries they don't share audiological governance systems.
North Korea necrocratic, Russia, autocratic, China, communist, ron Islamic, theocratic
with a bit of plasers public Turkey Islamic. A primary
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key factor in all those things that unite them are
powerful men who don't have necessary term limits, or they
get the term limits extended, and so they can really
impose these policies over a longer period of time. That's
part one, Part two. A lot of these domination based
systems come associated with rigid gender identities. Yeah, so any
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deviancy is then punished, and this.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Which is ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I've never understood why governments concern themselves with sexuality or
sexual orientation. I will never understand that they have other bits. Look,
Turkey has bigger fish to fry than who's dork and
who I mean, you know, basically a lot of them
live in mud huts. The economy is not great. One
of their biggest exports is hazel nuts, believe it or not,
and those crops are failing, so economically they're not doing well.
(16:04):
They have child labor picking the hazel nuts, which is
why vegans are protesting against hazel nuts. I'm not I
love nutella, well, vegan nutellah, but you know they're using
child labor to pick this, so they have child labor
issues there. They have a lot of issues in Turkey
that they could be addressing to help their people.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
This is not one of them.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
I mean, in May, they they they literally prosecuted a
singer in May. He was acquitted, but he stood trial
for a song that he's saying that alleged same sex desire,
and they arrested the guy and he had to go
to court.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
They acquitted him.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I guess it wasn't a good song, but you know,
it certainly wasn't I'm too sexy for my shirt. But
you know, they as a singer they had, you know,
they put a singer on trial, so right now it's
bad to be gay in Turkey. I hope that some
of the people there seek asylum in other countries and
can get out any way they can until it gets better.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Do you want to pick the next two on me too?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
You go, it's technically your segment. So I like this
one of Pink News.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Ah, we're recording out a petition seeking a public choir
into section twenty eight. Yes, Margaret Thatchers, we're HARKing way
back anti LGBT law thinking schools.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Hey watch it, dude. I remember when they when they
put that in place. I was in my twenties.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
You're still in your twenties.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, well, you know, boy George, Boy George had a lot.
Boy George had a.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Lot to say about Section twenty eight back when he was,
you know, twenty, because he was in his twenties.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
As well.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Part of Boy George and Lee Boweries, who boy George
copied entire persona, was to flip off Margaret Thatcher. The
roof of punk music are in the youth rebellion to
Margaret Thatcher and section twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
So we owe a lot to the anger.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
That came about after Section twenty eight and because it
was such a ridiculous law, which we report here on
laws in other countries that were like this law. Section
twenty eight said you couldn't promote LGBTQ causes.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
They wanted books removed from schools. You know. It was
basically a gay band.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And the backlash to Section twenty eight has now made
the UK one of the best places in the world
for gays. So I don't want to say they kind
of owe that to Margaret Thatcher being such an ass,
but because she went so far to the right. Now
in the UK, gay rights are very much to the left,
and so, you know, again a pendulum. She swung it
(18:59):
this way and then it swung back this way. But
I think it's great that they're going to do an
inquisition into it because it really damaged.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
People over there.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Kids were harmed, people were violence was perpetrated, benefits were denied.
You know, bad things happened under section twenty eight, and
there should be some sort of repercussion for that. She's
long gone, but others aren't.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Sure. Yeah, set fired at that true roof.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, well it was.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Remember it went from eighty eight from when I was
twenty six years old until two thousand and three. It
was only repealed twenty three years ago.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
So that's yes, I believe it was Tony Blair. Yes.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Students then were not able to get supported schools, staff
were forced to hide their identity fearing they'd be sacked.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I mean it was bad. It was a witch hunt.
Next one sure, okay.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Oh by the way, Scotland repealed it in two thousand
before the UK.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Go Scotland, Yeah, go Scott.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I've always held that Scottish people with their accent are
the best storytellers.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
I will tell you right now. There's a scott guy
on Apple Fitness Plus main Dan. Oh my god, Oh
my god. I'd moved to Scotland just to marry him.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
So The Guardian has reported or described as sole Pride
sore during tens of thousands, despite LGBTT plus protections, religious
opposition and continued exclusion from Soul Plaza, participate celebrated visibility
much to support legal progress while urging lawmakers and companies
to stop ignoring queer Koreans publicly.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Well and the mayor of Seoul said he can't support homosexuality.
He said that holding pride at the city's main square
is not desirable, but the organizers of the event said,
just stop pretending. We don't exist. We're here work, we
get used to uh. And so they turned out in probe,
tens of thousands.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Of people board into central Soul to celebrate.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
And I don't see why he doesn't like that. That's
a shit ton of money just got bored into Soul
in first dollars and hotels and food and everything else lubricant.
Uh so you know, I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
State no is show.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
So they couldn't have it in the town square, but
they did have it at a festival ground in another location. Uh,
they had university clubs, Diplomatic missions, including the British Embassy
came and days earlier a Soul court had offered a
rare step forward for these people, ruling that a same
sex couple who had their lives and finances constituted a
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protected legal union, even as same sex marriage is not
legally recognized in South Korea, which is odd because South
Korea is progressive it is, and it's odd that this
is still. Of course, it's the Asian world, and there
are two places where it's really tough to be gay,
the Asian world and the Muslim world, and those two
(22:23):
worlds overlap. A lot of South Asians and such are Muslim,
and so there's a heavy Muslim and believe it or not, Buddhist,
who are supposed to be all non mio horng gay
kill and all of that, there have not been that
accepting of gay people.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
They are now, you know, the Dali Lama.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Has sort of evolved, but he wasn't always so pro gay,
which is odd for a group of people who wear.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Orange dresses that they wouldn't, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
But so in Southeast Asia and Korea and other places,
it's still rough. It's well, it's a rough every where,
but it's rough in South Korea, and it shouldn't be
because they're very progressive there.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Should add, we don't necessarily have the strength of numbers
with regards to the religious in South Korea because as
one of the largest atheist, no no religious affiliation populations
in the world. And so it's.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
It's yeah, but it's still the Protestants there, who are
only one fifth of the of the population, who are
the ones that are the most vocal in their opposition
to pride. So interesting, so the Protestants are the ones
who are causing the problem. And even though there are
only one fifth of the population, they're allowed one fifth
and others listen.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Next right, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Them reports that the Trump administration is going to restore
nine eight eighths specialized LGBTQ plus youth crisis land by
year's end after eliminating it official site congressional direction, but
advocates remained skeptical as implementation clashes with federal policies denying
transgender recognition and in collusion. So we're seeing again, as
(24:10):
you're noting international pendulum swings, we're also noting domestic.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
No, if they're allowing this, it's because they're afraid of
getting sued or they're afraid of a court compelling them
to do it. They would not do it out of
the goodness of their heart or because it's the right
thing to do. The Trump administration wouldn't know the right
thing to do if it jumped up and bit them
in the ass.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
So that it's not the Christian's love for us that
prevents them from burning us at the stake, it's the
impotence of their love.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Right.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
So this was based on a lawsuit, and you know,
instead of you know, fighting the lawsuit, they decided to
let's go ahead and do it. And also a lot
of them are running and dead kids aren't a good
platform to run on, So you know, I mean, I
mean truly, the HHS spokesperson said, working with the nine
(25:05):
eight eight network administrator Vibrant Emotional Health to reactivate PRESS
three operations. It was Press three if You're gay by
the end of the year. The spokesperson described the effort
as part of Congress's Fiscal year twenty twenty six directive
to restore the services. So Congress had to tell them
to do it, and Congress already had the money allocated,
so they're like, do it. This was not something they
(25:26):
wanted to do, but a bipartisan group of lawmakers obtained
earlier by the advocate the Substance Abuse and Mental Health
Service Administration set on behalf of the HHS Robert Kennedy
Junior that is evaluating how to restore the nine eight
eight lifeline Specialized Services for LGBTQ youth, commonly known as
PRESS three, following Congress's direction, and I believe that Congress
(25:50):
put a caveat in there. I'd have to double check
in the story where the other funding was tied to this.
So if they didn't do this, they weren't going to
get other money. So they said, oh, fuck it, we'll
just do it to get this money. So but believe
me if they were forced to buy Congress and it
was over money, but they did it. However, don't get
too happy, because the agency said that restoration would need
(26:12):
to comply with Donald Trump's executive order, which requires federal
agencies to recognize only two genders and reject federal recognition
of transgendered identity. So how are you going to set
up a not a press three option for people who
are trans and questioning if you can't talk to them
about being trans in questioning. So again, this will probably
(26:34):
end up in court.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
We'll see. But you know, but good for Congress legislative
to raise people.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Well yeah, I mean, at least, look, Congress is pretty
useless at this point, but at least Congress could not
have been clearer. The Trump administration must restore the nine
eight eight lifeline.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
They must.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Congress did not leave them, you know, they said the
president cannot executive orders, cannot override FED law, and Congress
already settled this question. So Congress already set up this hotline.
They already said it was going to be for trans people,
gay people, by people, and his executive order can't override that,
which I'm sure he's pissed about.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Next.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Next, good news from UCA News talking about faith leaders
welcoming Japan's first National LGBT Awareness Plan. Cabinet approved framework
calling for training, research, public education, consultation systems, will affirming
unjust discrimination is unacceptable across businesses, governments, schools, local communities
(27:42):
and workplaces nationwide.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Did you see the Buddhist monk in the story that
was interviewed declined to give his name. The Buddhist leader
cautioned that changing social attitudes would take time. Okay, I
applaud Japan for this, I do. It's just kind of
insulting as a gay man that you have to actually
counsel people and tell people how not to discriminate against gays.
(28:11):
I mean, it seems pretty simple. Just treat everybody like
you want to be treated fairly, period, end of story.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
So it's kind of odd to me.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
That the national Cabinet's decision to adopt a plan aim
to promoting public understanding of gay people and other sexual minorities.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
What is there to understand?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
You know, we're human, and instead of going when people
of the opposite gender, we go with the people of
the same gender.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
That's not hard to understand.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
So I don't I get it, and good for them,
But I think all across the globe we make far
too much about.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
The complex issue of day. It's not hard.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Treat us like you treat anyone else. There you go,
that's it.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
If I could peat anybody.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yet also footnote it don't have to understand something.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
So parts well, we'll end with that.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Because that said it all yant gotta understand me. Don't
distinct from the Ukraine. The good Man Project got Jacob
from this day week. I am Karelbee who you want
to be, so long as it doesn't hurt anybody.
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Speaker 5 (29:28):
Yours.
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Listen daily to the corel cast on your favorite streaming service.
You're listening to the corell cast driving you home or
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