Kristen Hagopian Show - 10 22 25

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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a two. Hey, guys, looking out the window, it is
a gorgeous, gorgeous October out there. I hope you guys
are having a fabulous fall, getting all ramped up for hell,
all the fun stuff you gotta love it. And so
many things popped up in my news feed this past
week that I knew would lend themselves well to show segments.

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I could not wait to leap into this week's show.
In no particular order, the various news items that popped
up that really got my attention that I thought we
could chat about today. Also, because we're doing this in
our own house, this segment home upgrades that you can
do it yourself for under fifty bucks. Now this is
ringing true for me because I'm doing a bunch of

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stuff around the house. But when I put the word
out via social media, I got a fantastic response from
very creative listeners coast to coast. So we're diving right
in here with great things you can do to your house.
And when I mean do it yourself upgrades, I'm not
talking about the getting dirty and sweaty and wanting.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
To punch a hole in the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
By the time you're done with it, you're exhausted, you're
kind of mad, you don't know why. No, I'm talking
about fun, easy projects that costs less than fifty and
pack a huge punch in your house. I've done this
to my all these various projects, so many of them
rang true for me, going over in no particular order.
Number one, add some path lighting because it's getting dark

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at like two pm now here in the Philadelphia area
and we haven't even turned back the clocks yet. That's
coming back next week. I think, when is it? Yeah,
Tony's so it's not this week, it's next weekend. It's
right after think right after Halloween. There you go, So
before you know it, it's gonna start getting dark then
what one o'clock in the afternoon. And in all seriousness,
outdoor lighting, I'm finding is something I'm getting very hooked on.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I love the look of it.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
And with today's solar lighting out there, you can have
it look like your entire backyard, your driveway, your front walk,
anything around your house basically inside and out can be
put together with solar lighting. If it has access to
solar power, if it has access to sunlight, it can
soak in all the rays it needs to and then

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at night.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Put this beautiful light.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
So, in all seriousness, you guys know the story of
when we put in the back patio. It's beautiful. It
was done with pressurized two by fours. It's huge. It's
like a fifteen x twenty five patio, filled them with
wood chips, and now it has around the entire outside
perimeter every six inches a gorgeous solar light that I
got at the dollar store for a buck, So for

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less than fifty bucks. I now have beautiful nighttime lighting
around this patio for next to nothing. It didn't require wiring,
didn't require anything, and it works fantastic. It just looks classy,
it looks elegant, and it only took me about an
hour to put in. So there you go, easy, inexpensive
packs a punch.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Gotta love it.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Next up, this is for people like my husband who
have actual skill in growing things in a garden.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I myself do not.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
This is the time of year planning for next year
to build some raised garden beds. Why because again, if
you have more of a skill for this than I do,
and that's ninety nine point nine percent of the population,
go and put those pressurized two by fours, or you
can make it even taller if you want to, and
then dump in all of your leaves and your mulch

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and your grass clippings and anything else organic that you
can just load in there. Overflow it, because it's all
going to start weighing down over the winter, a couple
of good snows or rainstorms wherever you're located, and it's
going to compact down into this glorious nutrient rich mulch
type stuff and then in the spring it'll be waiting

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for you, for you to just drop those seeds in
and go gangbusters on a fantastic new garden for next year.
So this is the time of year to do this.
And I gotta be honest when I go home this
evening and I take a look outside the kitchen windows
Victor's garden. He's been doing this gardening now for decades
and he's really good at it. When he put in
the raised beds, this was about God, I want to say,

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five years ago. I saw him out there doing this
and I was thinking, that is a lot of work
just to add a couple of extra inches to your
soil for plants. I mean, I thought his plants were
doing great. The next year it was night and day difference.
Those raised beds were unbelievable. So if you have a garden,
whether it's for yourself, for someone you love, if it's

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for vegetables for the guys, flowers for the ladies, anything
for anybody, think long and hard this next week before
the weather starts to get a little too cold to
do it and put in some raised beds, because not
only are they pretty inexpensive to put in these days,
they are going to reap you huge rewards with unbelievable progress.

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I mean next year's produce and flowers and anything you're
going to grow in that garden. You were going to
find that a few hours put in now is going
to net you, is going to yield you huge increases
on whatever you plant their next year. So just think
about doing that next up. Oh my god, do this.
If you do nothing else on this list in this segment,
do this. Please listen to the sound of my voice

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and learn from my mistakes. Insulate your water pipes if
you have not already. Yes, the weather is still pretty
decent down here in the Philadelphia area, probably where you
guys are as well. And admittedly this upgrade is wicked
fall asleep, standing up boring, But it's easy and it's
not only going to save you money, it's going to

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save you some serious hassle and some serious blood pressure
with what it does for your house. Insulate the pipes.
Go to your basement, go to your crawl space wherever
it is, and insulate the pipes that carry hot water
through your cold basement or your crawl space with these
pre slit the hollow core, the flexible sleeves, they call
them made of polyethene or polyethylene, or the neopreme. What

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do you call it, neoprene. That's what I'm looking at,
neoprene foam. Now, before you go shopping again, learn from
my mistakes. Make sure you know the diameter of the
pipes you're insulating. Just go there and measure it. Oh
you know, it's a half inch to a quarter inch,
it's three quarters of an inch, it's two inches, whatever
it is. Have those numbers on you before you buy
the piping, before you buy the sort of insulation. Go there,

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buy as much as you need, put it on there.
Oh my god, this next winter you will be so
glad that you did. I'm telling you that right now.
All right, next up, Yes, you know what, when the
weather starts to get really crummy and the weekends, it
becomes more and more fun to stay in rather than
go out. No more long walks, no more nature this,
no more, you know, really even going out more than

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you have to. You're going to be in your family room,
your living room a lot more. Take a look at
your sofas when you get home, or maybe you're home
right now, look at them. I just redid my sofas
and this was after this was after researching so many
hours of my life that I will never get back,
because I wanted to do different sofas in our family room.

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We've got two sofas, each of them three cushions each.
They were hotchpodgy, completely different selections, completely different cl elections,
different makes, different everything. They had a couple of you
know colors in common. They both had a burgundy base
with different stripes and patterns and blah blah blah. And
when I shopped and shopped looking for new ones, I
could not find ones that everybody in the family liked.

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That's code for ones that I couldn't get Victor to
sign on for. And that's fine, I dig it. He's
got certain ideas about his you know, the couches that
he wants. I totally respect that. What I wish I
could go back in my way back machine and do.
Because this worked perfectly, Get yourself a couple of couch
covers from any of the couch cover companies out there.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Google it.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
The quality of the fabric is so gorgeous. I covered
all of the parts of the sofa. You take the
cushions off, you cover your sofa with this beautiful now
matching background. It's gorgeous. It's like this dark coffee chocolate brown. Okay,
Then for the cushions you sit on, that has its
own sleeve that you put things in. It zips along

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the back. You tuck that into your couch, then you pull.
You can do this by hand. You can do this
however you want to do it. I did it in
an hour with my sewing machine. I got this gorgeous
fabric that really popped with what I wanted to do
in that room. It's a burgundy. So now I've got
brown couches with brown seated cushions and burgundy back cushions.

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Both of these couches now match beautifully, flawlessly, elegantly, classily
for the first time in decades. Yes, I've had these
couches for decades. They look fantastic. I did it for
next to nothing. I did it for less than fifty
bucks with the Joeanne Fabrics fifty percent off sale. It's
cool and there's tons of guys in there too. I'm
here to tell you because a lot of these fabrics

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that you're using are for like deep upholstery projects, manly stuff.
Get in there, redo your sofa for easily fifty bucks
or less. Keep that money in the bank. It's a
beautiful thing. We got about a minute left. Here's one
of the biggest things I would highly recommend do yourself.
And this is not for the fun of it, because
it's not fun. It is deeply, deeply satisfying. Go through
and deep clean your house. You've heard of the spring

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house cleaning. I'm talking about a fall house cleaning, where
you get everything out of your house that you know
you're never going to use. You get a truck, you
take it all to the Goodwill, and you write off
every delicious scent of that. And what you've done is
just free up tons and tons of square footage in
your house. Start thinking about some new anything. Deep clean
those carpets. Watch the color change on even the most

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well kept carpets. The vibrancy that comes back. It's going
to inspire you. You'll get maybe some bedroom sets at
your local Goodwill. You'll put those in instead. Start cleaning
out the closets. Now you've got closet space. Everything going on.
A deep cleaning in your house, or just pick a
wing of your house, maybe just your garage. It does
a body good guys, the time is flying more right

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after this.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Not too.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
And we are back with a Christen Agopian show. And
I mentioned in an earlier block about how there were
so many news stories out there that just grabbed my
interest because they were all so applicable to the show.
I couldn't wait to break it out into various segments.
And one of the things that seemed to kill you know,
just all the time in my various news feeds and

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various search engines, whatever it is, kept popping up, eating
for your thyroid health.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
And as soon as the words just came.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Out of my mouth this moment, I just envisioned half
of our listening audience. You know, half of them are
going to be looking at the what is she talking about?
Rolling their eyes, and the other half you're going to
be like, everybody, shut up. I got to hear this,
because you guys know what I'm talking about. When it
comes to thyroid if you are over the age of eighteen,
basically it's something that you have read up on or

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had interest in. And myself as a fifty year old,
my husband's fifty five. I've got parents who are, of
course a couple of decades older than I am. And
you're hearing more and more in the news about thyroid
health because it is a big thing. And when I
was eighteen and you know, younger, I'd hear about, you know,
hormones or thyroid and I'd roll my eyes like, okay,
could this be any more boring? And now I am

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fascinated with the subject because now that I ramped up
into my fifties extremely healthy, feeling very grateful for my health.
But my fifties have hit me like a mac truck.
And where I didn't used to pay much attention to
other people talking about their ailments and their fifties, now
I'm like, oh my god, I get it. With regards
to your sleep quality and your energy quality and bouncing

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back from fall or allergies. Suddenly you never had allergies
in your life. Now you've got allergies and you're finding
out that so much of it is tied to your thyroid.
And you hear about kids these days who are having
you look back and you're like, I didn't have those
kind of problems. I don't remember a lot of classmates
with problems like that when I was their age. And
you're hearing more and more about the thyroid. And when

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you hear about this, I know a lot of people
who have with great success, gone the route of connecting
with their doctors and getting on some sort of a program,
a prescription program that addresses their thyroid, and some of
them have absolute gold stars for their doctors for it.
A lot of other people out there are attempting. They're
in charge of their health, they're speaking to their doctors,

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but they're not getting the results they want off of
thyroid medication. They're not there yet. And then there's people
like me who are generally cowards about any pharmaceuticals. And
this has its pros, but it has its cons, you know,
emphasis on the word coward. But in all seriousness, I'm
a big fan of when you have certain issues in
your life, whatever they are, whether they're your house or

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your car, or clothing or shoes or food or whatever
part of your budget, pharmaceuticals can take up a huge,
huge bite out of your budget. I hear it from
people right and left, coast to coast. And if there's
any way you can address a thyroid issue without the
use of extremely pricey and sometimes not so reliable pharmaceuticals,

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I say we go for it. So I was putting
the word out from various people, what are you finding
works best for your thyroid? And I've got a huge
amount of chime in with here as well, because I
have found phenomenal results with inexpensive non pharmaceutical solutions. We
had to do a segment on it. So, in no
particular order, thyroid friendly foods and other items with regards

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to juices or other stuff that I used to think
was so hippy dippy now not so much for any budget.
And here's the order. If you have anything going on
with regards to weight gain, or sleep quality or mood quality,
or anything going on in your life and you just
flat out no, it's got to be thyroid related. Either
you've been diagnosed with it or you strongly suspected after

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your own research. One of the best things you can
do for your body, this is something that mimics or
even surpasses the effects of pharmaceuticals. Pick out these foods.
These the foods that you want to use on a
regular daily basis when it comes to healing your own
thyroid from the inside out. Number One, high quality protein.

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I am not talking about, you know, discounted lunch meat,
which I really don't ever eat anyway. I'm talking about
high quality protein out there. The high quality protein you
will always find in my house, and it's a real
statement as to my cooking abilities is rotisserie chicken. I
will have chicken at least once every two days. It's
a high quality protein, it's inexpensive, and when it comes

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to your thyroid, it is a very important source of
amino acids. There's a couple I'm going to go a
little scientific on you here, but you've heard these terms before. Glutamine, altyrazine.
There are amino acids in high quality protein, like rotisserie chicken,
like turkey, like a lot of other meats. They repair
gut cells and they create thyroid hormones, the ones that

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we are losing in droves as we get a little older,
and not just as we get older. I'm hearing from
people these days where I'm like, how could a teenager
have thyroid problems? Mean other than the usual you know,
hormone problems that we all went through. But in all serious,
no chuckling, there are kids out there much younger than
in generation's past with thyroid problems. A lot of times

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they're finding that they are caused by stress. A lot
of times, they're caused by sleep deprivation, a lot of
times they're caused by well intended pharmaceuticals. So you've got
people of all ages, basically over the age of twelve,
god forbid, maybe a little younger, where these thyroid friendly
foods could be far more beneficial than say, even a pharmaceutical.

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So go for the high quality protein. And I'm not
talking about you know, the fresh alusque and sim and
just flown in. I'm talking about cracking open a couple
of cans of tuna, okay, which my son could eat
on his own. I'm talking about rotisserie chicken, which my
daughter could eat want at a sitting Okay. Next up berries. Now,
berries are expensive, more expensive than say the pounds of apples,

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oranges and bananas that I buy. However, when it comes
to berries, they're one go to move that is hugely inexpensive.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I highly recommend it.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Go for the frozen wild berries, most specifically the wild blueberries.
We will always always have bags of those that I
usually get from BJ's. They cost next to nothing per pound.
My kids love them, I bake with them, I use
them in all kinds of stuff. Sometimes you just put
them in a bowl with some whipped cream. It's a
beautiful thing. Next up with the berries, I consider cherries

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to be a big part of the berry kingdom. I
have no idea if that's scientifically correct. But when it
comes to weight loss, first of all, cherries don't slow
me down much. And in all seriousness, cherries are one
of the They might be the highest quality melatonin, which
is a lovely, soothing, calming, all natural agent that as
far as I know, nobody is allergic to, and it

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works great. It has worked phenomenally for me. I've mentioned
it in past segments. Cherry juice. Cherries in general, concentrated
cherry juice with not one different chemical and it just
cherry juice has been a sleep aid for me that
I didn't know was possible. I have not slept so
well since before Katie was born. Cherries, blueberries, high quality meats.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Next up.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Okay, here's something people were sending this in. I cannot
subscribe to this because I've never tried them. Green smoothies.
These are never going away. I keep seeing green smoothies everywhere.
They have penetrated the food court of every mall in America.
Clearly they have some sort of a standing here. I
think I would probably run screaming if I were to
try a green smoothie. I am not green smoothie material. However,

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they have tons of micronutrients, these green smoothies with the
kale and everything else in them, and people like them.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
If you like them and.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
They're helping your thyroid, guess what, go for it. Next up,
this is something Victor's huge into and more than when
person texted me about this. Sauer Kraut fermented foods. They
can be bought in jars for a reasonable price, but
apparently there's this whole underground movement of making your own
fermented foods. Main making your own saur krawd. Go for it,

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God bless America, make your own, find it online anywhere.
So you got high quality meats, high quality berries. Drink
a ton of water. Drink water like the incredible, free,
unbelievable body helper that it is. There is nothing like
water and people don't get enough of it. Want to
help your thyroid keep your system clear with a ton

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of water. Next step, I gotta get this in bone
broth or what I do is you do the bone
broth for collagen. I do powdered collagen in my coffee,
my beloved coffee, which I would normally not taint with anything.
Here's the cool thing. You can't taste it. I put
a couple of tablespoons in my collagen of collagen in
my coffee every day and it is phenomenal. My nails

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have never been this long. My hair is growing back
in ways.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
I didn't think possible. It's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Go get some more after this, and we are back
with the Christian Agopian Show. And I've been looking so

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forward to our next guest because this is something that
affects so many of us, our household. Included in here
at the studio as well, a federal case against the EPA,
the Environmental Protection Agency, over the safety of adding fluoride
to the public water supply has just come to a head,
with the court handing out its ruling. Right, okay, So

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the presiding judge ruled the EPA did not prove how
much fluoride is safe to drink.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
So there's number one bombshell and has ordered the EPA
to take further action. And here to break it down
for us into little bite sized pieces that we can
all appreciate is doctor Griffin Cole, a biologic dentist who
better to do it. Welcome doctor Cole. How are you
doing that?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, it's a pleasure to have you on.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
And I've been looking so forward to this because you know,
I was raised on floridated water. We've got fluoridated water
all over the place here in the Philadelphia area. Further
out you've got more well watered that kind of thing
going on, and I don't know the exact numbers, but
it has to be you know, easily hundreds of millions
of Americans and people living in this country that are

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affected by floridated water. So what does this decision mean
with regards to floridation? Is this the end of floridation?
And break it down for us if you.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Would, hopefully, Kristen, You know, the court doesn't actually have
the legal authority to force the EPA to ban it,
to end it, but the judge issued an incredibly strong
decision based on a very careful assessment of all the
scientific evidence, and he ruled that floridation poses quote an
unreasonable risk of reduced IQ and children. And the one

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thing that the EPA cannot do in the face of
the court's finding is to ignore that risk. So this
the first time that a judge took the time to
listen to everything and indeed found arm at the current
levels and sent the EPA back to re examine the
safety and efficacy of the entire floridation policy.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
That is fascinating.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
And I'm taking notes as we're talking here, because you know,
we all know we love to point fingers, we love
to do whatever else. I'm queen at that, but we
know that science is an ever evolving art and you've
got a lot of great, well intended people at the
forefront of it, and all of us appreciate that so much.
But we have done a full one point eighty on this.

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I mean, it was promoted so heavily for decades. What
science was pointing us in that direction?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Well, and that's a great question. And here's the thing.
If you look at what the American Dental Association is saying,
is they're basically negating this entire finding and saying we
still say it's safe and effective, and that's just not true.
You are correct. Science, you know does come along as
time goes on, and you know, most of these studies.
There's about eighty two worldwide studies that have happened over

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the past ten years or so. And they were focusing
on the children's brains because they knew already that drinkin
florid affects our thyroid gland, it calcifies our pineal gland,
it affects our kidneys, every enzyme system in the body.
I mean, they already knew all these things. Even though
they were saying it's still safe and effective and great

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for the teeth, it's just not true.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
That is remarkable, And this is where your work is
so important too, and so appreciated. And this is the result.
This has been in the works for a while now.
It's a result of a seven year lawsuit. And you
know me, I mean I want things instantly, if not sooner.
I mean, it's impossible to please me with patients or
impatience whatever. And I realize sometimes the cogs of the

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wheels of justice have to, you know, they have to
take their time and dot the i's and cross the t's.
But why did this case take so long with the
ever increasing science working against it.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, there were several delays. Honestly, it was mostly about
the judge needed time to hear all the scientific evidence,
and there was extensive expert testimony by some the world's
FOREMO scientists, and then he wanted to allow the EPA
a chance to try to counter all of it, which
they failed to do. And in addition, he was waiting

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for the latest results from the National Toxicology Programs review
of all the published evidence on fluoride neurotoxicity and it
overwhelmingly showed harm to children's brains.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Unreal, that is remarkable. And again jotting down notes as
we're talking here, what and I've realized every kid is different,
Every beautiful kid is coming from a different background, a
different part of the country, different age parents when they're
having their kids.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
That kind of think.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
There are so many moving parts to this model. But
did the court's decision say how much fluoridation lowers children's IQ?
Is there are a range going on here something we
should be keeping an eye on for Yes.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
In fact, the court concluded that, based on the best
available evidence, pregnant women drinking Floridad water at the current
US recommended levels that presents a risk of a decrease
in IQ, ranging from low end of two and a
half points up to almost seven IQ points and children,
and just for context, the court noted that an average

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loss of just one IQ point was associated with reduced
educational attainment, employment status, productivity, and even earned wages. And
of course all of these are substantial public health concerns.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Isn't that remarkable? And that again makes the work that
you're doing so important here, And it's a lot to
take in. You've got people who are thinking, you know,
they're wanting to rewind the clock there, you know, Monday
morning quarterbacking.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm the queen at that. I'm lucky in that.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Where I live, you know, the studio here, we've got
regular public water, which is of course fluoridated here at
the station, but at home we're on well water. And
you've got a lot of people thinking, Okay, how do
I thread this needle? Where I take this science, I
become proactive, I handle this. You know, this is life,
this is adult thing. How do you go about Is
there any way to remove the fluoridation in public water?

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Is there any kind of a filter that we can
put on there to take care of that? What are
the next steps? Where do we go with this? What
happens next?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Well, the best thing that you can do, honestly, is
for all these cities, you just turn off the fluoride spicket.
I mean, that's the quickest answer to This solves all
the problems. That's probably going to take some time, you know,
because you know, at the very least, the EPA has
to re examine the safety and efficacy of fluoride. And
we're hoping that they're not going to try to appeal

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this ruling because it'll just drag it out for years
and it's such an important issue. If the EPA does
choose to use law fare instead of doing their job,
which is to protect the health of Americans, then unfortunately,
hundreds of thousands of children will continue to be harmed
by fluoride. So in the meantime, to answer your question
very directly, there are filters, you know, there's like the

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Burkey filters, and you can do reverse osmosis and things
like that. The problem is it's expensive and it's time consuming,
and we shouldn't have to do that. They just need
to turn off the Fluoride's bigot.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Now is that on a nationwide level or is that
town to town? How does that work when the fluoride's
added to water These days doctor.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
So great question. So this is a federal lawsuit, okay,
and of course the EPA is in charge of the
entire country. But you know, every city can make that determination,
every municipality, and that's already happening, by the way, just
based on this decision, there's been at least five towns
that have said, you know, we're done, we've heard enough.
We're turning it off. We're hoping that that that that

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bandwagen gets rolling and it keeps happening.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're going to
find that it really kind of the more the word
gets out, I think you're going to find that it
just kind of sweeps the nation. I think it's going
to become the new hashtag, you know, and fluoride or whatever.
And again, I you know, I was raised on it.
You know, I have so many friends that are still
on it. So many people in our station's coast to
coast they're still on it. It's nothing to panic about.
But knowledge is power. So and you you know, we're

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all in charge of our destinies and our futures. And
if it means getting loud about this, then so be it.
Where do our listeners nationwide go for more information on this.
Where do you recommend?

Speaker 3 (28:10):
So there's a couple of great sources. One is the
flori Action Network, which was one of the plaintiffs in
this case. Their website is Fluoride Alert dot org. And
then a great international academy of dentists and other doctors
is called the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology
and their website is IAO MT dot org.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Excellent from your you know, unique vantage point you have
like a master's degree in all of this information. You're
a well educated, you know, professional dentist. You've got a
knowledge level on this that's that's very unique and very appreciated.
Where do you see this going?

Speaker 3 (28:50):
You know, I really hope that we see the end
of fluoridation. You know, if florid did everything that the
pro floordationists have been saying for all these years, it
reduces cavities at all these different levels, then perhaps it
would be a valid treatment and a top ten health achievement,
as the CDC has claimed. But oral health reports from
all over the world show that fluoride is ineffective, and unfortunately,

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groups like the CDC and the American Della Association honestly
have ignored decades worth of studies indicating harm from fluoride,
so they were so busy promoting the health of the
twos over the health of children's brains.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Amazing, And then again, the work that you're doing is
so important. On behalf of people who are chicken at
the dentist's office all the time.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
And I have a fantastic dentist.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
He is so gentle and fabulous, and I'm still like,
you know, claws in the air when I'm in that chair.
He's just he's got the patience of a saint. And
you've got the same kind of fantastic voice. You do
the same thing where you just help people get so
chill and just give them the info. It's just you're
worth your weighting gold. And we love all the work
that you're doing here. I knew the time would fly.
This is fantastic stuff, doctor Cole. You've got an open

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mic anytime. Continue the great work that you're doing. Thank
you on behalf of people who have teeth everywhere. We
greatly appreciate your working and all seriousness. I think you're
saving lives here, go get them and thanks again for
your time.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Thank you so much. For your kind words.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
You bet we'll be right back gang right after this
to the best of all circumstance.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Just got.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
And we are back with the Kristen Goophian Show.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
And I've been looking so forward to our next guest
because anybody that works on a computer every day is
used to complex authentication systems, you know, the protocols. And
then there are the new technologies like AI that a
lot of people are comfortable with. I'm not one of them,
you know, I'm fascinated by it, but I'm not comfortable

(31:19):
with it quite yet. And AI in particular seems to
me make cybersecurity even less user friendly. Okay, However, a
recent report shows that only thirteen percent of security pros okay,
as opposed to people like you and I, security pros
prioritize the user experience when creating cyber safety measures. Okay,

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So where's the disconnect here? And joining us to discuss
this cybersecurity challenge and where they think it's going in
the future is Avante Senior VP David Shepherd, joining us
via our newsmaker line. David, welcome, how are you Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Good, Thanks you We're doing good.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Thanks Okay, So tell us a little bit about this
latest survey. It sounds fascinating and kind of break down
some of the findings. People just might be surprised to hear.
What did you find in this?

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, this was something we've been interested in for quite
a long time. We wanted to see we ran the surveys.
We wanted to see how organizations strike a balance between
securing the company environment and ensuring the users have a
positive experience. So look, we went out globally. We went
to twenty thousand individuals, executives, it leads, IT professionals, and

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security experts themselves and ask some questions. The overwhelming stat
that came back that kind of we're paying most attention
to is eighty six percent of IT professionals said poor
user experience leads to unsafe workarounds being employed by workers.
So if we think about that in kind of context,
that's an employee encountering some tech friction or some frustration

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with the tools they're using in the workplace and thinking
I can probably work around this. And in fact, in
the survey, one in two workers admitted to using personal
devices for work activity. So they encounter a problem and
they think I can get around that with my own device,
and thirty two percent said when they did that, their
organization did not know. So a really really big security

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problem for organizations to deal with. And then the stat
you mentioned when we focused on the security professionals, they've
got so much on their plate that they haven't really
got time to look at user experience as a priority
because they need to fix the workarounds and make sure
that the organization's secure, so they kind of discount user experience.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, and this is really fascinating. I knew it would be.
And I'm jotting notes down as you're talking, because this
is something that's going to affect us all. I mean,
we are all consumers. We all want to be at least,
you know, moderately capable of handling these new technologies as
they come out. You know, in our spare time, hardy
hor horror, but in all seriousness, this is a real

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concern for people of all levels because you want to
make sure you're safe online, you want to make sure
the people you care about are safe online. But when
you feel like all of these technologies are jumping one
step ahead of us, it's tough to know that you're
on top of it. You know, what are we doing here.
So when you see all of us various consumers out there,
and we want to ensure that we're going to keep

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everybody safe online, stay away from the latest cyber attack,
make sure that you know we're not part of the
next big news story out there. What can we realistically
do as consumers to ensure you know that consumers are
safe online and stay away from the latest cyber attack.
How do we get that done?

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yeah, I think I think from a personal standpoint, there
are things that we can do. We you know, unsolicited messages,
if we're receiving anything that is that we don't know
where they're coming from, and this could be on our
work device sort of personal device by the way, then
if anything's asking for your personal information, if anything is
asking you to share credentials, if anything comes from the unknown,

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you've just got to ignore. You've just got to walk
away from it. Passwords, as an example, we need to
keep them strong, like organizations enforce how they want their
passwords to be. Your work password is always a certain strength,
but your personal passwords must be the same. They also
must be long in length and randomized, and also use
the multitude of keys that we've got on the keyboard

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in front of us as well. So those two steps
to start with are a really good way from a
personal point of view of securing your environment. And then
what you find in the business world a lot of
the time is these things are happening.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Already, you know what, And you bring up another good point.
I was going to talk about something else, but now
you kind of jog some memories that I'm having here,
Because one of the important points when it comes to
cyber security is I feel like certain ages are way
more on top of this kind of intrinsically than we are.
I am the proud owner of a twenty year old

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and a seventeen years and they are fantastic with the electronics,
with the cyber everything, and I'll be doing something where
they're suddenly like, oh, mom, you know you don't want
to touch that, don't enter anything whatever. So I feel
like the next generation has a handle on this that
maybe us adept fifty somethings and ups might not. You know,
not everybody, but certainly in general. Are you finding that

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from a demographics standpoint, there are certain demographics out there
that have a bit more to worry about. And you've
got these younger kids that just know this. It's in
the mirror of their bones. You know, are there certain
demographics that are really struggling with this and other ones
that are doing well? How do people my age compare
with people like the next generation coming up? What are
you finding out there?

Speaker 4 (36:39):
You know it's accurate you're saying, and you know, being
the proud owner of two teenage boys also, it's it's
definitely that they are more astute. For example, they will
always be updated, they will always be using the latest
and the greatest applications and devices because they're the most secure, right,
So they do drive us in the oldest generation to

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stay ahead there. I think our statistics also show in
the industry that we do probably need more young people
coming through into organizations to drive that. I think there
is that is always a challenge with organizations how you
bring people through. But I think you're right, Yeah, the
younger generation of fully immersed in this culture, definitely immersed
in how to be secure in an application, how much

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information to put online, how much of that that we
we've had to learn kind of later on. So it's
a it's a good it's a good point you make
there and very valid actually, and it does give hope
for the future that that balance of security and being
online will be will be, will be in good hands.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, spot on.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's so good to know that I've got you know,
friends out there with the same things going on. Now
we just have to teach them how to clean their room.
You know, it's a double edged sword, it really is.
But and I knew the time would fly. Where do
we have our listeners coast to coast go for more
information on this? Where do they find the answers to
the questions and maybe a little more in depth discussion
on everything we just talked about.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Yeah, if you go to a anti dot com forward
slash Secure Experience, We've got all the details of the survey,
some really interesting pieces around something called secure by Design
that we deployed to make sure our customers are more secure.
And also, yeah, just some more in depth stats on
this whole subject. So a anti dot com forward slash
secure by Secure Experience.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Sorry, fantastic stuff. We'll put a link on all of
our social media as well. This has been so much
fun and I knew the time would fly. David, Thank
you so much for taking time out of your very
busy schedule to talk me down out.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Of my tree. You've got an open mic anytime. Please
join us again when you can.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Thanks well, I appreciate the time. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
You bet until next week, save those pennies, pay with cash,
and you all stay frugal out there.