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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the end. I thought podcast. Yes,
I am aware that I did not fumble over my
own podcasts. I feel like that's a good thing. I'm
very proud of myself because you know, we have four
of them, so like remembering which one you're recording for
is always a thing. Yes, okay, now I'm done. That
was supposed to be my funny bit. That was actually
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that's the whole funny bit for day, and that's probably
the part that's hilarious because it wasn't that funny and
will know it by the way. Oh wow, good job
to me. Yes, I remember to introduce myself, because y'all
know I've gone through entire podcasts and forgot the good
job to me. I remember to introduce myself. And I'm
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I can talk about me and my books all day,
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but you're not here to hear about me. It's kind
of said that you're not here to hear about me.
Made a whole podcast so I could talk, and you're
not here to hear about me. You're here to hear
from our wonderful guests. Wonderful guess. Would you like to
introduce yourself?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I after that, I think I'm boring compared to you.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I have no books, a couple of articles I've written,
but that's about it. So my name's Joe Matheson Lamarka Mathison,
and I am the co executive producer of The M Factor,
Shredding the Silence on Menopause. Before that, I was the
executive producer of the fourth hour of Today with Hoda
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and Jenna, and before that, I worked with Hoda and
Kathie leean Hoda, and I am a leadership management coach
in my day job.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
And those are three things you should know about me.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That's how I feel like my resume is seriously lacking.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Now your resume with eighteen bucks, did you say you're
not lacking anything?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And how many podcasts for ward did you say? Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You were like when you got finished, I was like,
and when I grow up, I'm going to be just
like her.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, then you're gonna need this a fan for your
hot flashes.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You cannot wait to be well warm because I don't
want to go I don't want to have hot flashes,
but warm.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yes, don't drink yourself. I said the same thing. And
it's not good. It's really not good.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Okay, it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
It works where you're either like push, the fire from
within is burning until it hits the outside and you're
dripping in sweat and then it goes away and you're freezing.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Okay, this really really so fuck So I am I
am the group narcissist, So you know I'm want to
talk a bit about me, Joe. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Good, I'm glad to learn about you, so talk away.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So when I was young girl, apparently the hormones did
a flip thing and I had hot flashes for an
entire like month. For a minute there, I would have
like one a week, and I was like, what is this?
This is internal hades, Like it's like all of a sudden,
you caught on fire from head to toe and there's
nothing you can do about it. And there's no amount
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of cold. You could walk into a freezer, but I'm
not a stitch on and you're still gonna be warm,
so like you're gonna melt ice. And then they told
me and I was like, oh no, I refuse to
come back to you ever again. I changed doctors because
I'm never having that up. I'm never gonna have that
diagnosis again. I'm not that old.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
How old are you? And I ask, or would you
rather not say? Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I never say it, lad, he never tells, right.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
It depends. But if you like to remain a mystery,
I totally hear you.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I definitely would prefer to mystery. Okay, but how did
you get involved in the IM factor as like a
play right.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
No, it's a documentary.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Documentary is the documentary that is airing on PBS, and
it has UH.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And it's actually been all over the world. It's made
its way all over the world.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So it started because my hot flashes were awful and
I had this terrible pain in my ankles and I
would go running and I'd come home with hives and
I would take a hair brush and just scratch my
entire body with the hair And I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I thought I didn't know what was happening to me.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I thought I was falling apart, and I'm I met
a friend who I met a mutual friend introduced me
to tams And Fidel, who is my partner in this
along with Denise Pines and Kobe Atlas, and Tamsen said,
I'm going through the same thing. I tried this, I
saw this doctor. I was like, Okay, let me try that.
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I'll see this doctor. And we would go back and
forth and compare notes. When we realized it was menopause.
And if we didn't know about it, because we were
both journalists, if we didn't know about it, then probably
there were lots of women like us who didn't know
about it. So we decided to make a documentary. And
then we met Kobe and Denise, and Denise has a
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tea company that it was a menopause It is a
menopause tea company called Tea Botanicals, and she's been throwing
these huge events in La called wise Pause, so she
knew what she was talking about. We were learning and
we the four of us, got together and we made
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this documentary help other women and are. At the beginning,
we thought, okay, we're going to throw this up on
YouTube and hope that, you know, some of our friends
see it, and then some of their friends see it,
and they just keep spreading the word. And we came
up with this documentary and it just took off like wildfire.
And it is largely self funded because people said, oh.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
There's no audience for menopause.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
But you know what, in the last four months, we
have done about five hundred screenings and more than forty
countries all over the world.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, don't understand. Some people always say things like no
one wants to see that, and you're like, well, considering
that like almost half the world are women, yeah, we
might want to see something about us. Yeah, more the
world has a similar vestiage interest, and you.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Know, yes, and if you live with a woman and
if you love a woman, you need to know these
things because it just helps you. You know, there are
menopause affects the brain, and there are and then it
affects everything, right. The brain affects your sex drive, the
brain effects your memory, brain effects a ton and there
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are a lot of divorces that happened in the menopause years.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So I don't know about these things where I'm sure
learning I was like taking notes.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I've recently learned that menopause hits the brain at about
thirty five and then or perimenopause, and then perimenopause continues
into your forties.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And it just kind of like creeps up on you.
Right Like I had this ankle pain.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I couldn't get out of bed in the morning without
pain in my ankles, and then as soon as I
went down the stairs the first time, it would disappear.
And that lasted for a couple of months, and then
anxiety set in and I thought, oh my god, what's
happening to me? Why am I so nervous doing things
that I never thought about before? And then that kind
of went away, like just things creep in and they
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creep out, and they creep in and they creep out,
and so it's good to learn about it when you're
your age and young, because then you know what and
when this things start happening to you, you're not like,
oh my god, am I dying? You're more like, ah,
I got this, uh huh.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I think it's important to learn, especially if I'm going
to decide to do this like a career at the
age that I am, then I definitely need to think about, well,
am I am I going to be slowing down? I
heard about brain fog. Yes, I did a writer's retreat
and this lady was like, I didn't know what was
wrong with me because my brain fog was just so bad.
And I I just like at the top of my
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career and it was a great professional and all of
a sudden, I just could not like get it together.
And it took her two years for someone to be like, oh,
this is peri menopause, and I'm like, oh no, not
that I can't have that, And I everything from my
head and.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You always say it's not gonna happen to me, and
then somehow it just does happen to you because we're
only human.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I assume it will happen. I'm one of those people
like when I was younger, things that would not happen
to anyone happened to me. And I'm going to share
a funny story about me, because you know, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Sit back and listen to your funny story. Tell me.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
For instance, I even wrote about this in our Misfit
Guide where I one day I went to go pump
some gas and somehow I got my skirt caught up
wrapped around in the gas host still don't know how
that happened, So triple loop in my gas hose, and
the only way I could pump gas was to lift
my skirt because it was stuck in the gas holes
(09:44):
like that, and I I had I had a friend
of mine get out the car and cover the backside
so I could pump the gas. I was like, we'll
figure it out later. I just need gas own guard.
These guys don't happen to anyone else but me, So
I assume this will happened to me.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It will happen to you. As jactor Sharon Malone says,
if you were born with a uterust, it will happen
to you.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You know, it will happen to you, Like for anyone
out there listening and they heard the gat story, that
won't happen to you.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Unless you were born with a skirt.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
So I do have to ask about your other profession
as well. Sure, so you're the former producer for the
fourth hour of the Today Show. I don't know all
my writing people on there are going to want to
know what does it take to get on the Today Show.
So let me just get that out the way already.
To get on the Today Show as a guest, the
guest are to have something featured. They're just gonna want
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to know that well.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
To get on as a guest, whether you've got like
a book, or you have a product, or you have
I don't know, you've done something special and you want
to tell your story, you would pitch it to one
of the producers on the Today Show and wait for
them to get back to you. If you've got a story. Now,
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keep in mind, about two to five percent of the
story's pitched to producers actually make it to the air.
So there are so many things that the show has
to do before they take stories. First of all, the
producers who are on the show, it is their jobs
to come up with ideas to program the show with.
(11:27):
So there's that, and then there's the stuff you kind
of have to do when you're on the show. You
kind of have to do the you know, the promo
for whatever movie NBC Universal has coming out or music
or whatever it is, So there's that or TV show,
So there's that, and then there are the regular segments
that are on and that takes up about, I don't
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know about a third of the programming of the show.
If you've got a book that you want to get on,
you have to have a very special reason why you
want to not go. Most of the books are read
with Jena books, so they are books that she chooses
for her book club, and they're usually novels. So if
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you're an author, you go through the book editor and
whoever the book editor is now have been gone three years,
so I'm not sure, but you go through the book
editor who decides, Okay, we're going to pitch this to
the eight, or we're going to pitch it to the nine,
or we're going to pitch it to the ten, depending
on the topic. If you have a product, it's hard
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because MB because the Today Show is considered news, and
you can't come on to sell your product. Now, if
you're a celebrity and you're and you're Sarah Jessica Parker
and you have your shoe line, but you also have
other things to talk about. Yes, you can mention your
shoe line, but you can't just do a segment on
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shoes unless. Of course, there's also new situations in where
the NBC News or the Today Show will get a
commission on products that are featured on the show and
they'll disclose that.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So, in other words, if you're you.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And you decide, okay, I want to do the ten
best sunscreens because.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I just want to. I'm you know, I'm an expert.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I'm a dermatologist, and I can do the then often
the show will try to figure out how to get
some sort of commission off those sunscreens that are sold
on the show.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And they do this because years ago, before.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You were born, there were only like seven stations on
the air, so there wasn't a lot of competition. But
now nobody's watching television anymore more. People are you know,
They're turning to their phones for news or entertainment or clips,
and so the networks have to come up with a way.
All the networks have to come up with a way
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to figure out how they're going to pay their staff.
And so this is one of the ways that all
the networks are working now. So they're out there with
it and they'll say, we may earn a commission from
some of the items that we're talking about, but it's
the way things are done. So getting your product on
is hard unless you know someone and you're willing to
(14:22):
If you just have a product right and you're willing to.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Kick in a little.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Thank you, See everyone's happy.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Now, Oh you're good, we accomplish that.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You'll accomplish that. One more question about that today show.
Then we're going to write back to the impactor. So
what is it really fun being there? And do you
get to eat the food that the chefs prepare?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yes, it's so much fun being there, number one. Yes,
you get to eat the food the chef's prepare, which
is so good. Even better is you get to drink
the cocktails that the chef's prepare, And uh, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
And you know what, when you work there, you kind
of live there.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You're you're you're with everyone for so many hours a
day and early mornings and you're kind of in the
trenches and everyone becomes family and it's really a wonderful,
wonderful place to work. It's very hard for me to
leave and uh, but it's a wonder it's a wonderful
place to work.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's side of process. Okay, now back to the M factor.
As I promised, what was the hardest challenge about getting
the M factor together and then moving it forward.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
To the audience that where it needed to be the
hard The biggest challenge, I'd say was funding it because
we literally started shooting it with my phone and.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And and some of that, and some of the film
is shot with the phone, and then we basically as
we went along.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
We started to get more interest.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
And it took us three years to do so we
started to get more interest and more interest in it,
and we did get some funding, which was amazing because
we never would have been able to.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Finish the film if we didn't get enough funding, but
we did.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And then in the case and then getting it on
PBS was another challenge, but our partners have had different
documentaries that aired on PBS, so they had already a
way in and I honestly don't think that PBS was
ready for the success and the demand there was going to.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Be for the M factor.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I mean, when you think we live in an aging
population and really anybody over forty is affected by perimenopause
or menopause, and this answers a lot of questions that
we just never got and we don't we didn't get it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You know why we didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Take a guess why we don't have the information because
there's no funding for women's health, not none, but a tiny,
little minuscule funding for women's health. Now there might even
be less. I don't even I don't know, but there's
no funding. And because of no funding, there's not a
ton of research. And in fact, more than seventy percent
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of our doctors are not educated in menopause. So it's
so hard to find a doctor who knows what they're
talking about. And if you can find one, hold on
to that doctor and appreciate their knowledge because it's really difficult.
But more and more, we'll, hopefully we'll see that change.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Now I definitely know that you're going to be one
of the stepping stones to getting to that change. I
want to thank you so much for coming on today.
But first of all, we need to know, yes, where
we can watch the M Factor and support it and
let our other friends know that we should be watching this.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Oh thank you. Okay, well you can watch it at PBA.
Go on your PBS.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Every station is different, every local, every city has a
different PBS station. So go on PBS dot org find
out where it's airing, and you can go to the
M Factor film dot com and you can host your
own screening. And there are whole directions in there if
you want to get your friends together and host a
screening or whatever it is you want to do.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But you can see it that way as well.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Side point, are you making an Emmy run for this?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Well? I like to say, should Well.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
We've entered the nomination process so hotly.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yes, okay, that's what I wanted to know. Yes, let's
just go with let's manifest it out there when you
get nominated. What are you wearing?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I was gonna say, what should I wear? I don't
think black.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I think maybe a bright futia color because that's the
colors that are in the.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yes, I so so so agreed. I don't be caring
This year to them is the exact same thing I
wore last year. JOm is no, no, I have a
very long, pretty gown and I was like, I paid
for it one time. I will be wearing it to
the Emmys for the next five years.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Do you go to Do you really go to the Emmys? Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You go?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I watch them on TV. That's why you watch them
in my pajamas.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Oh my god, that must be fun. Well you better
do that instead. No, I'm not gonna go this day.
I'm gonna watch one pajamas. It's just a lot easier
with a fire and it's just oh, oh, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
And I expect to hunk from you when we win
and you're there.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh, I will definitely, definitely all right, So you guys
remember that you can watch the show again. Just go
ahead and tell us one more time the.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
M factorfilm dot com.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And then you can find out everything that I'm up
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Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Remember that wisdom is all around you if you're opening
to finding it and accepting it. So peace in love
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