Behind the Scenes: Debbie Matenopoulos & Andy Paige on General Hospital and Beyond

Listen to this special episode of The Locher Room featuring two incredible guests— Debbie Matenopoulos and Andy Paige.

Debbie, a five-time Emmy® nominee, has been a staple in the entertainment industry for nearly three decades, known for her work on Home and Family, The View, and much more. Andy, an actress, beauty expert, and inventor, is currently appearing as Pearl on @General Hospital.

We dove into their impressive careers, their appearances on General Hospital and the unique collaboration between Knocking and the show that’s bringing Port Charles into the homes of fans like never before. Fans can shop officially licensed products inspired by the show, including the Deceptor skincare wand and more (https://shophomeandheart.com).

Don’t miss this chance to connect and hear from two dynamic personalities and learn more about how you can bring a piece of Port Charles into your life.

Episode Transcript

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Good afternoon, everybody. Thanks for joining me in the locker room. I'm Alan Locker. Joining

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me today are two incredible guests, Debbie Matt and Apollis in Andy Page. Debbie is a five
time Emmy nominee and has been a staple in the entertainment industry for nearly three decades,
known for her work on home and family, the view, and so much more. Andy is an actress, beauty
expert, and inventor. She has appeared on "Starting Over" and how do I look with General

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Hospitals for no-one use to name a few? Both ladies appeared on ABC's General Hospital
last week to kick off a brand new one-of-a-kind partnership between knocking the content and commerce
marketplace and the show. I've seen within the show itself as the shopping channel based
in Port Charles, shophomeandheart.com will offer real products inspired by the show's beauty

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brand deception. Shophome and Heart will also offer handbags, jewelry, makeup, inspired and
worn by the show's characters, allowing viewers to immerse themselves into the world of General
Hospital beyond the screen, creating an unparalleled connection between them and their favorite
daytime drama. Please, help me welcome to the locker room Debbie Mattenopoulos and Andy

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Page. Hello, everyone. Hi, Alan. So good to see you. Hi, ladies. Thank you so much for
being here. Really? What a fabulous introduction. Well, let's start with you, Andy, since you've
been tapped as a spokesperson for this partnership between knocking and GH and you're playing
Pearl on Home and Heart. Tell us about the idea behind this partnership.

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Well, so deception is actually the real, well, it's a storyline of a cosmetic company within
General Hospital. And for years, the fans have been asking for deception to come to life.
And so my understanding is that knocking an ABC got together and they felt that this was
a really good opportunity to bring the fans something that they've wanted for a long time

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within the Home and Heart storyline as well. So deception is becoming real. And this is
all really fan generated. The fans really want it. So there is the Deceptor, which is a
red light therapy wand and there's the deceiver, which is the serum. And we've got makeup and
foundation. And recently we were at a fan event and we had some fans name some of the

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lipsticks. And so all of deception is coming to life. So that's coming to life. In addition
to, you know, handbags that you see on the show and jewelry and there's lots coming. But
all of it is really fan generated. They're listening to the makeup artist and the people
on the crew as well as the cast and the fans and they're creating this experience that

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really you can't find anywhere else. I love that. And deception is a great name for
you know, product line. Debbie, I loved your little nod to the view in your dialogue.
Was that was that written on the page? Well, it was back and forth. My character initially

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was supposed to be coming on Home and Heart with Morgan Fairchild and selling a caria
because my caria, my beauty, my skincare line is actually in the shop home and heart website.
Yeah. So that's initially how it was going to be that I was going to be on there and I was
going to see the ladies from Deceptor from the Deceptor and Deception and I was going to

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be fan-girling on them and I was going to say, oh my gosh, did you, you're the ladies who
created Deceptor? The Deceptor, right? And I was going to pull it out of my purse and
say, I don't go anywhere without it. Okay. So that's how it started. And then the amazing
executive producer Frank Valentini who's you know been there for gazillion years and
is so awesome and so lovely to work with. It was like, you know what? No. I want you to

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be the producer of the show. And I thought, well, you know what? It can't get any easier than
that. How many sets have I been on in my entire life and all I can do is carry a clipboard
and put on a headset and I got it. Well, if I'm not playing myself, that's about as close
to myself as I can play. You know? So when we were going back and forth of the dialogue,
we initially was just going to be like, you know, a throw away and know nothing like

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that. And then somebody said, wait a minute, you guys, you can't have her on the show. The
view is an ABC show. It's synergistic. You can't have the original co-host of the view
on your show and not say something about it because if you do, the audience was going to
go, wait a minute, why did they have her on there? And they're not mentioning it. So they
did it as a sort of like wink, wink. But you know, it was very clever writing, I would

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say. I definitely thought absolutely, absolutely. And I understand there are other products that
they have in the works as well. Do you know what some of those are? I do. There's the Disruptor
Moisturizer, I believe, is one of the ones that is going to be next kind of on the docket.
But you know, the thing about the storyline or the deception cosmetic company storyline

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has been a part of the show for almost half of the show for over 30 years. So if you have
watched, you know, I believe it's been on for 61 seasons. I mean, the longest running show
in television history. So for 30 years, they have developed everything you can imagine.
So they're working to create everything that you have seen them develop within the storyline

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in real time is for the audience. So the Disruptor Moisturizer, like I said, the Deceiver Serum,
I think is next. All of the cosmetics that they've developed will actually be brought to life.
But right now what you can get is the Deceptor Red Light Therapy one, which I actually love.

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Is it credible? It's so good. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And first of all, if you go to a dermatologist's
office to get red light therapy, it's super expensive. Yes. Exactly. By the way, I'm in Florida
right now at a dermatologist's office because I'm doing something with a choreo, which is kind
of how I feel. Anyway, trust me. It's not at all. Absolutely. How appropriate. I should

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just go back and ask them if they'd like to sell the Deceptor here. But if you are able
to take that red light therapy with you, and I'm used a lot of different red light therapy
ones. And this one for whatever reason, I can speak personally from my own experience.
I can feel the heat. And I see it working almost immediately. It's so good. Well, and I love

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it because most of the time you only get a mask. So the fact that this is a wand means you
can use it on your hands or your neck or your kneecaps or whatever. You're never wrong.
And everything is discounted right now, right? Everything is a discount on the website. So

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the website is up right now. What was it like? Well, first of all, Debbie, I know you grew
up watching general watching. My baby's sister used to watch. So I remember I'd, you know,
I would watch with her and then which hooked me as a child. I was probably too young to
be watching that to be honest with you. But you know, I've been there and care. If you
were in the crib, you're just watching it. And then I would come home every day after school

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at four o'clock is when general hospital would air on ABC. And I would raise, raise, raise
home after high school to watch it. And I was obsessed with Luke and Laura obsessed. And
I remember I ran in to Luke at the Emmys. And I thought I was going to pass out. That
was my first year on the view. And I was like, Oh gosh, you're my dream, man. I mean,

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he was so sweet and kind. And he thought it was a spherical and whatever. But yeah, I have
watched for years. So to be on the show is really like, it's full circle. Because again, it's
ABC. It's like coming home again. And it was also almost surreal. I was like, am I really
on this head? This is wild. And the set is not like anything else. I mean, you know, Debbie

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and I have both been in television. And we think that we work hard. Those people work so hard.
Oh my gosh, Andy, it's wild. I mean, 12 hour days are normal. And they memorized like 18
pages like that. I'm like, okay, hold on, slow down. I usually use my own words. So this
is a little harder for me. I mean, unbelievable. So, so Ellen, the day that I was there, I was

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in scene 47 and 49 of 52 that day, that day, 52 scenes. I mean, that's banana. Yeah. And what
time did we wrap that day? I mean, Andy, we thought we were going to be done by we said,
oh, yeah, by two or three at the very latest. I think we walked out of there at 8 30

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p.m. Yeah. And they were still there. They were still there when we left. Yeah. And filming.
Like people were just, I mean, it is they work so hard. Anyway, I have a whole new appreciation
for really a day time. So, I mean, 250 hours a year that create approximately. And I were
talking backstage. I used to work on As the World Turns and Guiding Light and PR. And my

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shows went off the air in 2009 and 10. And it was becoming fast back then. Today, what
there it because of budgets and things, it is at a lightning speed that is mind blowing.
And I, you know, I gave them credit back in the 70s when they did so because they still
did a lot in a day. They did one show a day. And now they're sometimes doing multiple shows

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in a day. It's really the writers. They probably don't sleep. They're writing on the block. Yeah.
The other thing that's crazy, you want to talk about pressure. Okay. So I was so excited
to do this. But so they gave me my lines. And I was literally told that you get one rehearsal
and one take. And that's it. Right. I was in my dressing room like practicing and practicing.

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I'm like, Oh, my gosh, because you don't use your first day, right? Debbie, you don't want
to screw everybody up. I know. Second take. They'll be like, Oh, great. Don't invite them
back. They couldn't even get the words out of their mouth. And they do it so much to them.
It's like second nature. But Andy, how about I again, coming from daytime television and
I live being quite a bit. Yes, we read a prompt or yes, but prepare. We know where we need

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to sail the ship. But the ship doesn't need to be sailed exactly the way that you're told
it needs to be sailed. Just needs to get into port. Port Charles, for instance. And
generally, you know, when you're reading, when you're doing someone else's line that someone
has written, you really have to stick to the script. So I was like, Oh, whatever. I'm just
going to add a little bit. So I start ad living. And suddenly, Bernie, welcome, everyone

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goes, look, we love you. And that's really good. But you have to say it exactly as a three.
I was like, Oh, okay, I'll do it exactly as a three. Sorry. Yeah. That was in our first
time. It's photo three, throw away because I did it wrong. So then the second take that
they took, I had to do exactly what they said. I'm like, Oh gosh, I hope it's good.
Do you remember who is directing Linda? Okay. Good memory. Good memory. Yeah. Talk about

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Jane Elliott, Amanda Sutton, Debbie, you saw Morgan Fairchild, who he used to work with.
I am obsessed with Warren Fairchild. Morgan Fairchild and I did a show together years
ago called He's a Lady. Yes, it was a big hit. No, nobody saw it. But it was a fun show.
If you blinked, you missed the show. But it was, by the way, way ahead of its time, right

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now, it'd be very appropriate to do a show like that. And it was where we took a bunch of
men who were straight men and romantic relationships. And we made them dress like a woman for a
week to see what it was like to live in our shoes. And we made them go to their work, dressed
as women. We made them go back to their hometown. They all live in the house together. And

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at first, they were like, not into it. And by the end, I had some of the guys crying that
were cut from the show. They're like, I think I did such a good job. Why are we being cut?
Anyway, so Morgan Fairchild was before its time. Wasn't it? Yes. So Morgan Fairchild and
myself and John Sally were judges. So we had to cut these poor guys. Anyway, so we had
the greatest time. We shot this for like probably two months in LA. And it was fantastic.

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So to see her again was really wonderful. I'm like, Morgan, just like, oh my gosh, remember
that show? By the way, it has an age, a day. Looks exactly the same. I want whatever
she's having. She's using the deceptor clearly. She's phenomenal. She's phenomenal. And all
the other ladies are just, I mean, they're all gone. All of them. Kirsten, Amanda, Lucy,

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like everyone's there. I'm just so in awe of and my goodness. What is a genius?
How beautiful is she, by the way? She's the grand
I'm obsessed with her. I told her I went to grow up to be her. And she had a funny

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thing to say to me, Angie, I don't know if you heard her. She was like, well, I didn't like
you when I saw you. Oh my gosh. No, I did not hear that. Jane, why? I was like, oh my gosh,
I was so scared to meet you because I'm such a fan of yours. I think you're so beautiful
and you've aged so gracefully. She was like, well, that was my plan. I wanted to age like
Humphrey Govar, Bogard or Catherine to do it for any of those. I said, well, you've done

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it. You've done it. You're gorgeous. Okay. So anyway, she said, I didn't like the look
of you. And then I realized why? I'm like, okay, she said because your show, The View,
came in and canceled one of our shows for ABC. She was on a soap opera. Again, I cannot
remember the name of the soap opera. She was like, but you guys came in and stole our studio.
We didn't have studios. I said, well, I mean, I wish I had that kind of power, but I promised

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you I had nothing to do with your contribution. So anyway, we became fast friends after that.
And she said, you're great. So that's a great two. She's fantastic. Obsessed.
Yeah. My time with Jane was not quite as lovely. So you should know that I've watched her
my whole life. And I know her. Were you a fan as well? Oh, yeah. So growing up, I

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was so fortunate. My great grandmother lived right across the street from me. And at my great
grandmother's house, she had Coca-Cola, which I was not allowed to drink. And she had another
butters. And like, yeah, all the good stuff. And so I would go over there and we would, we
would watch the soap. And I would eat bad junk food and drink Coca-Cola. But I, that's

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how I got hooked on the soap is I, because she had the good stuff, right? So I would go
to my, I would call their big memo. So I would watch the subs with big memo and I knew Jane.
But I didn't know, I knew her characters, but I didn't know her name. So let me just tell
you how this went. Oh, no. I'm Andy Page. I am so excited to meet you. And she goes, it's

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lovely to meet you. Welcome to the show. And I was like, thank you. And then I said, and
your name is, oh, that was like, it was so bad. And everybody just looked at me like, you
didn't. And I'm like, I'm sorry. And she goes, I am Jane. And I was like, I'm so happy to
meet you. I've watched you for years. Please forgive me. But anyway, it was like, you could

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tell it was an arrow to the heart. And I felt so awful. I wish that I could just sucked
the word back in and gone and ask a PA what the heck her name was. We all have been there.
We all have been there. So many times I've put my foot right in my mouth and I thought,
that was so not good. And you are. Oh, that was bad. Oh, gosh. It was so bad. But anyway, she

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was lovely. And everything Debbie said was true. She's the grand dom. You can tell. This
is her space. She owns it. She fills it in a really elegant way. She's off. I love that.
I love that you both watched. Well, speaking of General Hospital, Debbie, you you spent
10 years with Drew King and Cameron Mathis and not home and family. What is he like as a

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co-host? Oh, my gosh. He is the best co-host ever in history. I mean, he's such a good guy.
I think anyone that knows Cameron or is even seeing Cameron hosting anything really understands
that that is the person who you see is who you get. It's like, so when I see him as Drew
King, I die laughing. I'm like, this is so funny because he couldn't be more different. I mean,

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he is the kindest, sweetest soul that meditates before the show. But he meditates. I go get him
out of his dressing room and like, they're calling us. What are you doing? He's all. He's so sweet
and calm and always brings everyone back to center. And he wouldn't hurt a fly. Now working
with him side by side is also a joy because Cameron and I had known each other and have been

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working together since literally my first year on the view. When we started the view, all my
children and the view were in the same building on the West Side Highway, 66 West Side Highway.
So all my children was in the basement and we were on the third floor. Cameron and I were the youngest
people in the building. We started the same month in August of 1997 when we both started. So we

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became fast friends because they were like, oh, the babies in here, the babies. Babies a few years
older than me. But even so, we were still the youngest people. So anytime we had a baby, see a
vent, we were always hanging out. I have known Cameron longer than any other man in my life besides
like my brother and my dad. Like, I've had a longer relationship with him than any other man.
It's so funny. We die laughing. And he's the same thing with him for me. Like, he's like, I've

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had a longer relationship with you than any other woman. It's wild. We've known each other that long.
So he and I did a show together called Instant Beauty Pageant where do you remember style network?
There's another great gem of the small screen. There's something that you do for the meal and

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other things you do for the real. That's great. But it was super cute. So what we would do is we would
meet across the country in different malls in America every weekend that we had free because he
was still doing the soap opera and I was on e. And so on the weekends would be like at the
mall of America or somewhere in Dallas or whatever like the big mall. And we would find girls in the

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mall and we would give them 500 bucks and we say you have three hours to go to even down a bathing
suit and come up with a talent. We're building a stage right there and you remember and we hosted
that show. It was so fun. We did that for four seasons. I mean, we were looking at how you ended
up. You know, you worked in the same building and then worked on multiple shows to, you know, so

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right. So then after we're at it's so we're like the universe keeps bringing us back together. I said
to him, we must have been related in another life or something. You must have been my brother or
something because it's just we're so close. So then when I was at insider and entertainment tonight,
they were looking for a new host and when the producers comes to me and goes, what do you think of
Cameron Matheson? I said, don't even ask hire him right now. Hire him. He's amazing. And then he

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was working there like a week later. And then when I go over to home and family from the insider and
I was doing both shows. Cameron was still at ET. And then they were looking for a new host for home
and family. And I said, I'm just going to tell you right now who I do really well with. You don't
even have to. We don't have to do a chemistry test. Sorry, built in. This is the man you should hire.

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And they said, well, let's just test it. Test it. So after a month and a half of me sitting next to
people for literally a month and a half and then saying, no, no, they brought in Cameron and they go,
oh gosh, you were right. I said, that is really why I love that. I love that. Andy, you've been giving
beauty and style tips for years. Where did your love of beauty and fashion first into your world?

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Oh, well, I'm from Alabama. And so by the age of 13, like I was told that I was expected to wear makeup
and I was if my makeup wasn't right, I was sent back upstairs. Was that my mom or grandma?
All of you. All of you. I was taken to the mall. I was sat down at the clean counter. I was bought

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this array of cosmetics and I was expected to go full size from that day forward. So like, okay.
So, um, but then I was, you know, I was really fortunate. I mentioned New York by the time I was 17
and, you know, God made me tall. I was 5'11" by the time I was 10 years old. I don't remember.
So I have been, you know, a modeling around beauty and style for a long time. But really, you know,

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you mentioned very briefly that I was on starting over. So that was the first reality soap opera.
I don't know if your members are starting over. So I was in the very first cast of starting over,
like 21 years ago. And it was basically the show was about six women who were coming together to
jumpstart their life and to change and they were living together. And it was a daily strip. It was

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literally tagged as the very first reality soap opera. And so on that show, I naturally just kind of do
what I do as I was like, I don't know if you know this lady, the we're on TV and you look like that
being a cracker. So I'd be like, "Fig's in their hair." And I'd try to groom her. And so, you know, I had

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thought that my career was going in a different direction. I had planned to do, you know, different
things. And before I knew it, I was kind of helping them out. And then I became the Beauty and
Starlake expert on the show. So I was a Beauty and Starlake expert on that show. And we were nominated
for Emmys and like the whole thing. And then that led to me having my own show on A&E for like a
minute and doing lots of other things. But yeah, I did 180 episodes of Starting Up. Wow. Wow.

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Wow. It's incredible, you know, the trajectory. You know, you weren't planning it, but something led.
I mean, talking about, you know, being raised in Alabama. And then at 17, you said move to New York.
Was that a shell shock? Well, sure, Ellen. It was either, you know, be the number one checker at the

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Pigley Wiggly. Oh, you know, use this five foot 11 frame that like came out of nowhere, right? So, I
mean, it was a toss up. I was like, well, I could be, you know, I could work. I'm going to be like,
"I'm going to be the DQ." You could have worked at the DQ too, girl. I could have we were going to

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the Burger King. The Burger King. We had the World Corner. I grew up in Virginia, I know.
But, you know, it's so funny that Debbie talks about plucking girls out of the mall. I was literally
plucked out of the mall. Like, there was a scout who saw me and was like, I know, have you ever
thought of modeling? I'm like, are you kidding me? Everybody thinks I'm the ugliest creature that
walks the planet. And I, within like a year, I, a few years actually, I was, I went to Atlanta and

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then I was one of those basic girls. I dropped out of high school. I got my GED. I moved to New York,
I immediately got into college. And so I moved to New York in 1987. I got my education there and
just started to work and kind of, yep. I mean, you also got your masters, right? You also got your
masters. I do. I have two of those, Alan, because you know, being from a dirt road in Alabama,

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you really need to over educate yourself to prove yourself to the world. So I made sure that I have
a mortgage on my brain. But, you know, I'd hate for people to think I was barefooted for the first 10
years of my life. Wait, what are those two masters in? Media studies and broadcast journalism.
That's awesome. I was also going to say, by the way, the fact that she said that people thought
she was an ugly duckling, I mean, that it's insane to me. The first thing I said to Andy was,

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now, I really, I think I remember you winning Miss Universe. And I know I legitimately thought that.
And she goes, are you crazy? I did. I go, no, I'm sure of it. She goes, I think I remember if I was
so stunningly beautiful in person, it is like jarring. Was this dark when you two met?

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It's the first time we met. And I became fast friends like sisters, as you can imagine. We were in
trouble in the back talking, but the executive producer and directors would be like, can you
start talking? Oh, sorry, you think we know as many sets we've been on. But we went, I went and I
found a Greek restaurant and I had a total Greek figure. I know, sweetie, I was so excited. You

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were sending me pictures. We'll have to go next time. I don't even know where that restaurant is in LA.
You found a new gem. It was to the set. I just was like, literally, after our time together,
I was like, I don't know why, but I need to scream, Opa, possibly break a dish and have some stuff,
like something great. We have a new Greek place in my house. We have a new Greek place near my house.

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That's phenomenal. A little tiny gem. I'll have to cook for you guys sometime.
Lord. I'm coming. That's a promise I'm going to make you keep.
Oh, I love it. I love to cook. I love it. It calms me. My safe space. Wow. And I bet you're good
since you love Greek food. Tell us about, I carry that you mentioned earlier, your Greek,

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your skincare products that are based natural organic and indigenous ingredients. What prompted you to
forge this road? Forge this road. Initially, what the reason I even started, you know, even going
down this road is because necessity is the mother of all invention, right? I have a massive allergy,

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massive to paradins, to anything that is like a preservative, in-haired products or makeup,
whatever. So in this took years for doctors to figure out what it was. Like from back in the
few days, if they used to make up on me that didn't, you know, agree with me, I would have a
hyper allergy wherever they put it and then my whole body goes up and hives and they get red and

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bumps. And by the way, did you not see me Andy on the day that we shot? Remember I said, look at my
side. I'm just thinking the same thing. Yeah. So this has happened many times, but it usually happens
on my set. So I don't care because my director is no, my producer is no, everyone that works,
he knows. So you're protected and they'll protect me and they'll put on a soft lens or something.
Well, when you go to another set for the first day and your face is doing this, this is what happened

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the day at General Hospital and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, I'm not a monster. I have a
massive allergy. So that's what prompted me to initially set out to create something because for
years, doctors are giving me steroids. I'm a writer of Cortezone Creams. This and that, they put me on
allergy medicine. It just never stopped where I didn't want to band-aid. I actually want to fix it.

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So I decided that I would try to use the method that my mother, my grandmother and my aunts and
Greece had always been talking about for years. Like when I would have some of these allergies,
they'd be like, oh, honey, we'll put some cucumber on your face or put the grigio,
and you know what, they're right. Put some olive oil. It worked. And I wouldn't just laugh it off.

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It'd be like, oh, these ancient Greek remedies, whatever. This is old school. Nobody does that anymore.
Well, I went back to my roots. I figured out that at the end of the day, it was olive oil and Greek
yogurt and cucumbers and holy basil and chamomile tea that was really helping my skin. So I found a
lab in LA and I go, you know, can we try this? And they said, yeah, we'll do like a test run and

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let's see if it works. So I was in there with the guys, the scientists that make the vitamins and
make all kinds of stuff. And I said, let's just try this. Let's put a little bit of this a little bit of that.
And I have to tell you, it is so good. It is, in my opinion, and in a lot of, you know, my fans' opinions
of the people that buy the product, it is the best thing that I've ever put on my skin for sensitive

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skin. It is probably one of the most proud things I've ever done in my life. I'm more proud of
making this, even if I don't make a penny, because it costs a lot to produce, by the way. Like when you're
doing things like this, especially if you're sourcing from organic places, especially if you're sourcing
from Greece, you know, look, there's a lot of creams and you could put fillers in it in whatever, but then

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what am I doing? I'm putting the same stuff on the market that makes me allergic. So why would I do that?
And you know, a lot of people would be like, just put your name on it. It's fine. I said, I'm not
going to put my name on something that isn't authentic and isn't really good. It's something that I
wouldn't be proud of, especially like, you know, I forget the critics. The Greek people wouldn't eat me alive.
Like a Greek mafia. The meat of the...

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The Greek media mafia is coming for you, girl.
I wouldn't be able to show my face at church. I can bear this my family name. So anyway, yes, it's been
a labor of love and it has been like a long road, but I'm so proud of it and I'm now in Miami.
And oh, it's being sold on shop home and heart. I'm now in Miami meeting with...
I mean, I don't know how much I've been able to. But a Greek, another Greek that is I'm going to partner with

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who is a very, very big, he's big in the medical community. And we got, we met and he said,
I think this is great. And I think I would use this for my patients. And I said, okay, let's see how it goes.
That's not so. Tell us about the name and the isle. Is that where your family is from?

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My god sister is from Igaria. How you say it in Greek is Igaria, but it's Korea and English.
And it is one of the only, it's one of the five blue zones in the world. And if you know anything about
blue zones, it's, you know, the blue zone. Oh, blue zones. Oh, yeah, you can watch the, you can watch the
documentary on Netflix. There's one on Netflix right now about blue zones. But blue zones are

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the five places on the planet where people live well into their 80s and 90s and 100. And scientists
have studied them for years and they don't understand why. They're like, is it the soil? Is it the lack of
stress? Is it the lack of pollution? Is it the food? What it's going on? It's usually a combination of
all it's usually community and feeling, you know, connected to something as well as all these other

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factors. And Igaria happens to be in Greece and one of those places. And so, you know, my god sister's
from there. And I was like, you know what? It's like the island where people forget to die.
It's one of the most incredible beautiful places. So we source honey from there because honey is also
very therapeutic and, you know, I mean, also medicinal. Yeah. So that's where the honey comes from. And

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it, you know, I felt like what a better name than a place that is, you know, steeped in my roots
where people literally live to 100 years old. I mean, the name is perfection when you, when you,
you know, give that explanation. Like that, that's your elevator pitch right there. Yeah. And there's

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it. There's a funny thing in Igaria when I was talking with my god sister about it. She's like,
you know, one of the things that they do there that is kind of very odd for any other place in the planet
is like if you go in to get a business loan, usually in any other country or any other city, you go
get a business loan, they usually cut you off at a certain age, right? Because they don't think they're

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going to get their money back. You know, they go, well, a few of those persons coming in their 70 and
they want to get a business loan. I don't think we're going to give it to them because the truth is,
are we really going to recoup? So Igaria, the cutoff for loans when you go to the bank of business
loans is 85 years old because they, they, they assume that you'll live to be a hundred and they'll get
their money back. So these are people that live like they're not like old and yeah, yeah.

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I'm going to look up this documentary. Yeah, it's really cool. You're known as a centenarian.
So a centenarian is someone who lives to be a hundred and you need to decide right now that you,
Alan Loker, you are going to live to be a hundred years old. You can be a centenarian. I'm going to be a

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centenarian. Debbie is going to be a centenarian. Okay, I'm going to be a centenarian. Tell my husband,
he's got to take care of me. The oldest woman in the world or in America just passed away at 117,

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just a few days ago. Yes, yes. 117. That, I mean, it is a, I mean, people are living longer. Yeah.
So, but we're figuring it out. So it's, it's wonderful, but it's true. You should watch that documentary
and Blue Zones are a huge thing. I've studied all the Blue Zones. I, I was determined. I actually saw

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this 60 minute documentary about centenarians like in 1982 and I decided in 1982 that I was going to
be a centenarian. So I have been researching and doing all this stuff. I'm determined to live to be
a hundred. It's like one of those things that I'm like determined to do. Me too, girl. I love that. I
mean, I mean, you, you really do have to put things in the universe. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I've had a

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big life, but I ain't done like I just started. Yeah. I can't wait to start my 85 year old business.
We'll start something together in a quarrel. Absolutely. Well, talk about Andy some of the things.
I mean, you are an inventor and you hold 19 patents that are available in 20 countries and in

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6,200 retailers. That is. Yeah. Wow. That is so impressed. And I love, you know, because this wasn't
what we set up to do. So that's even more impressive. Well, so what happened was is, you know,
doing a daily reality show and living in a house, you were constantly wearing a mic pack. And so,

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and Dave, he's going to know you put it on your bra, you put it in your bridges, you're strapping
like, you know, they're putting it everywhere. And so when you're wearing a mic pack, 24 hours a day,
Alan, you start to get water blisters and like all these things. And I'm like, this is bananas.
So for like six months, I had to have a mic pack on 24 hours a day. So I invented something called
the Girlie Go Guardor, which is a hands-free purse that you wear on your leg. But the patents are,

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of course, the application, but also I hold patents on the adhesive because it works with the heat of
your body. So it will hold up to three pounds. So like this morning, I was on QVC. And so I used the
Girlie Go Guardor wraps around your legs. There's pockets. And I can hold, you know, two mic packs. I can
hold my lipstick, a powder puff, anything that I need, strap to my leg. You don't have to go into,

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you know, my bras are your, you know, it's very easy to access to change the battery to turn it up.
So I started out just developing it for television and film. But then people realized you they could
use it for insulin and insulin prompts. You could use it for all sorts of medical devices. And then
the pockets are just so perfect. It's great for your cell phone or your milk, your money ID,

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lipstick, cell phone keys. So girls wear it to go to concerts or prom or weddings. We have a whole wedding
line. And so one thing led to another. And yeah, that's, it's been like this achievement. I never dreamed
of a million years. But the Girlie Go Guardor, I've got three lines. It's the Girlie Go Guardor,
the Glitzigo Guardor and under wraps. And it's three competing lines. And you can find them

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and everywhere from, you know, a high-end wedding store to CVS. Andy, I saw you wearing that on your
leg at the day we're together. I didn't know that was yours. I thought, oh, how cute. That is such a
good idea that she's got that around her mic pack, runner leg. I mean, you should tell me that was
amazing. It's beautiful too. It was super cute. It was pink. We just show it to the General Hospital

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Audio Department. Of course I did. But you know what's very interesting is you do not wear a
mic pack on that show. Everything is boom. Right. Everything is boom. But sometimes they go out.
So you never know. Well, I do do ABC studio services. We have an account with them. We do lots of
the sitcoms and all that stuff. Lots of movies. We've been featured in lots of movies. But,

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they use them at QVC, like I said, I was just there today. And, you know, they're used,
they're used up. I mean, you wouldn't know our largest client is actually Bloomberg TV.
Whoa. Well, those people love it. I don't know why. Anyway, we sell them like, I don't want to know

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are there that many women on the island? I was just going to say the same thing. I think they're male
hosts are wearing them under their pants. Yeah, I just expect Bloomberg. When I think of Bloomberg,
for some reason, it's male. I don't know. Yeah, it is. But I don't mean that in any, you know,

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factors and weather people and like all of that because it's just it's perfect, especially if you're
in the field and you have to wear the, what is it? The eye. I think. Yeah, yeah. Which is another reason
that we were talking about earlier when you're like, where your ear pods? Another reason I don't like
to wear ear pods is because I had to wear an IFB for 20 years almost. And I was, I can't, anything in my

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ear starts to bother me as you saw with itching earlier. I am so impressed at that, Andy. I mean,
just to be born out of necessity, but to the level of where you've taken it. Bravo. Bravo. I appreciate
that. I appreciate that. There's one little thing that you're missing. So 15 years ago, literally two

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weeks before I was heading out to film the next season of my, my then television show, which was 10
years younger, I was in a very bad accident and I cut off my right foot. What? What kind of
accident? I was cliff diving and I missed the water. Oh my god. So I cut off, I know I cut off my foot.

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And as I'm laying in the hospital bed, I had had three surgeries to put it back on. I didn't
was able to go back to the show. The whole thing. And I they didn't know if I was going to walk. If
it was going to work, I thought, well, what am I supposed to do next? Jesus, like, give it to me, God.
And like, I had had this idea. I had made one for myself and I just started working from the hospital

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bed because I didn't know if I was going to be able to walk again. So I just started again this
Saturday. That's right. You know, right. I mean, you really, yeah. So I walked fine out. Debbie,
didn't even notice that I like, oh, I was with you all day. I do really well. Most people would

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never know. I mean, I, you know, I am 15 years out. It's been a really, really long struggle. But the
years that I, you know, was kind of getting myself back together, going through lots of surgery, lots of
rehab. It was just my, my project. And so, yeah, I'm so happy that it's done so well and it continues
to do well. But I had a lot of time to dedicate it because I dedicate to it because I was definitely kind

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of taking care of a different part of my life. What do you get through that the most? Well, that's
very interesting. There were lots of changes. And if I'm, if I'm completely honest, it would be my faith.
Because I was at a point in my life where I just needed things to change a little bit. And so what I

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promised God is that I'm going to listen better and he does not have to cut anything else off.
And so far, he's kept his promise. Yeah, I was just going to say, he's
got my fingers, got my ears, everything's good. Oh my goodness. He's so much.
Yeah, my life changed literally within a second within a second. Do you do less of cliff diving and

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things like that are you still an adventurous? Well, I am an adventurous spirit. I mean, before that,
I was a triathlete. I was a marathoner. I jumped out of airplanes. I would do all the things because
I was that was my, I loved it. But I don't jump out of much now. I, you know, I'm very happy to,
I want to live to be a hundred. And I actually said that to the very first surgeon. He was like,

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putting it back on. I was like, listen, I want to live to be a hundred. So you do this good. And he
just looked at me. I'm like, I'm not kidding. I'm living to be a hundred. And so I just had a great
belief that I was going to make it through. I know I mentioned that a few years ago, but I really
are a few minutes ago. But I really do believe I'm supposed to be on the planet a long time. And I have

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faith in, you know, the big guy. I love that. Yeah, beautiful. Thank you for sharing that story.
Really seriously. I mean, we need to go to dinner girl. Yes. Oh my gosh. I mean, we spent
all that entire day together. It's only 24 hours. It wasn't enough. It was just the tip of the
iceberg. All right. Just beginning. Just beginning. Can we come stay with you, Alan? We need

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sure anytime anytime. If if Debbie's cooking Greek, my husband will make, he'll give up our bedroom.
And I was thinking, we're staying about a week. Debbie, I can't believe it's 27 years ago

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when you landed the gig of a lifetime. You were 20 working at MTV, going to NYU journalism.
Yep. Where? I mean, is Barber the reason you went into journalism or like what drove you into
journalism? No, I I wanted to go into journalism because I have been, you know, just naturally

(42:44):
inquisitive my whole life. I was that kid. My mom said it would always go, but why? What's over there?
Tell me more. What is this about? And you know, I mean, I have, I now have that child and I understand
how difficult that can be because they thank you have every answer and you just don't. You just don't.
So that's the right way of following in your footsteps. Yeah. So anytime I say something like,
oh my goodness, like I'll say to Alexandra's teachers, I'll say, I know she likes to talk a lot

(43:08):
and the teachers would say to me, I wonder where she got that. That was just bizarre. So, you know,
obviously making fun of me, but I'm like, look, I turned it into a career. So thank goodness,
they used to sit me in the corner when I would talk because when you were a kid, you know, they'd punish
you at school and put you in the corner. I don't think there are lots of do that anymore, but I would
literally have to stare at the corner from talking and I now see some of my old teachers like from

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elementary school that go to our church and they'll be like, we knew you turned it into something good.
But not so I think I was just always naturally inquisitive and truthfully, my goal was that far
lower than than what it actually ended up being. I don't even think I knew how to dream as big as what

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I happened to and what happened to me and what opportunities were, you know, presented to me. I
just wanted to work at MTV like every other kid my age at that time. Like all the end all be all for
me was to be a journalist at MTV. That was it. That was the journey McCarthy days when it was about

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cool. Yeah. I only see you. That was my first job. So my first job at 17 was MTV and I was with Kurt
Loader and Tabitha Soren and gosh, who are the other ones that were over there? Allyson, something or
another. Anyway, it was incredible. It was after Martha Quinn and all of them, but Jenny was there and

(44:37):
that go MTV wraps was on and cribs and I mean it was wild and the real world, another reality show,
yeah, yeah, yeah, the first reality show. Yeah, yeah. So I started there and I thought, oh my gosh,
I have made it. I was going to NYU and working at MTV at the same time. I went to do an internship
at MTV and they hired me and I thought, I have won the lottery and I told my parents that I've been

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hired at MTV so I don't think I need to finish NYU. And my father looked at me and said, well,
then you should probably never come back home. And I was like, what? Because that's what you
want to do. That's your path. So I went to school full-time and worked at MTV full-time for three years

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until I graduated. All summers, the whole thing. So, you know, we're a lot of people
having like the time of their life at college and a lot of people having the time of their life at
MTV. I was basically like doing two jobs and just juggling it just to get through.
So I literally thought, well, I'm where I want to be. I graduated. I was about to graduate and I went

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to a going-way party for a friend of mine. And this casting director there said, you know, we're
doing the show for ABC and I'd love for you to come audition for this. And I had pink hair because
they had just dyed my hair pink at MTV. I'm Todd Olden from House of Style dyed my hair pink.

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And he goes, I'd let him dye my hair pink. Oh, he was incredible. I want the coolest guy's ever.
So he's like, he goes, well, I so I think he should come meet Marvel Walters and Bill Getty. And I say,
wait, Marvel Walters, why in the world would Marvel Walters want to do a show with me? I have pink hair.
He goes, oh, because there's a bunch of different girls, different generations, whatever.

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I said, okay, so I don't think anything of it. I'm like, this guy has had one too many cocktails and
he's saying crazy things. I'm whatever. The next day I go to school to NYU in the morning,
rushed to school, then rushed to MTV. He had already called my roommate who worked at MTV and
said, hey, I told them to expect her. Is she coming up here? I hadn't showered that morning. I was wearing

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a black mini skirt and boots to my knees and a baby t-shirt, a little baby t-shirt, which is
appropriate for MTV, you know, fashion. Not Barbara, but definitely for MTV.
It had John Dervolta's face on it and it said, "Bobbarino." Do you remember walking back
not her? Of course. I thought it on the street in St. Mark's place in New York City. I was like,

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this is the coolest shirt ever. Anyway, so this is how to meet Marvel Walters and Bill Getty.
I was mortified. So I go up to the ABC building and I'm going up the escalator and I'm looking at
all these people dressed like executives and I'm thinking, they're looking at me and wondering who
this person is and am I like a singing telegram? Who is this human entering the building?
So anyway, I go in there and I just try to keep it together and I just need to remember,

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I'm very young, I'm young. So, you know, they have to, and they got a kick out of it. I think they
just appreciated the honesty and just like, well, I show up here, I am sorry. I wasn't trying to be
anybody except for who I was. And they said, "Great, will you come back in audition in two weeks?"
And I did. And it was like, and again, I did the same thing. I was dressed a little nicer and,

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you know, pulled it together. But that's just kind of how that happened. It was wild. Yeah.
That's amazing. Yeah, I love that. Both of you, the journeys you've been on. I mentioned in the intro,
Andy, working. You worked with Fernola Hughes and you were also on Soap Talk. Tell us about

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Fernola and tell us about Soap Talk because a lot of viewers here, I'm sure watched you on Soap Talk.
That's, well, that's true. That was, talk about, that was also on the style network. And they're
way back when Fernola is lovely in every way. And she has a beautiful sense of style and she's

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so calming. I did like four or five episodes of her show because they would always bring in a new
stylist. And interestingly enough, two of the ladies that I made over stayed in contact with me for
a long time. Like they would, they would reach out to me and say, "What should I wear to this?
What should I wear to that?" So, yeah, it was, it was lovely. She is amazing. And I love the fact

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that she's still in the Soap World and she is still making it happen. Talk about an inspiration.
Right? She's gonna need a loan at 85.
She's beautiful. Beautiful woman.
Totally gorgeous. And then, I mean, the whole reason that I am now pearl on General
Hospital and I'm working with knocking is because of Soap Talk with Lisa Rina and Ty Tredway.

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Because it was working, yeah, it was working with producers on that show that now work at knocking
that remembered me and that's how that whole thing happened. So, I mean, that was amazing. So,
working there was wonderful. As a matter of fact, I did my first marathon in Los Angeles
the day after shooting Soap Talk with Lisa Rina and Ty Tredway and Lisa actually rooted me on.

(50:03):
I'll always remember that. I know. It was so, it was amazing. But anyway, I love doing style segments
and because I wasn't a traditional Soap coming from starting over, but I was doing that with the women
and as a part of it, it was just a natural transition for me to do it on other shows. And as you know,

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makeover shows in the 2000s even up until a few years ago were just like the thing. I mean,
they disappeared. Thank you social media. But at one point, it was very easy to be booked on,
you know, a dozen among. So, I'm really fortunate that I had so many. And the other interesting thing

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about starting over is because it was a daily reality show, there were every single day,
there were five producers on a show. So, I did that show for three years and every day, there were
five producers and all of those producers when this show ended, went somewhere. So, I got to follow.
That's fun. Thank me one who enjoyed, you know, I enjoyed working with or they would bring me along.

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So, I'm so fortunate in the way that, you know, as those producers went on to do different things,
they kind of brought me along, which is, it's making an impression, you know, because if you were
difficult or not pleasant or not a great personality, they would not, you wouldn't have all followed
each other. And it's always to remember that, I think, is for anybody watching, you know, you meet the

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same on the way up as you know, Barbara said to me one time, these are words to live by, exactly
just Ellen said. She said, darling, be careful the toes you step on today, because they're connected
to the toes, she'll be kissing tomorrow. That's so good. She's right. She's so good. Yeah.

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Well, and I always was taught that, you know, you don't eat the fruit the day you plant the seed.
So, every day, you want planting seed. Yeah, every day you're planting seed. So, you want to show up,
you want to be kind, you want to put your best foot forward, you want people to be able to rely on you.
And so, I've always believed that, you know, that's just in life, you know, for everything life,

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what are what you're doing, right? Yeah.
Beautifully, beautifully said, you know, Andy, you've been doing this for so long and sharing
tips with people. Is there a tip advice you've given that you always hear like when you bump into
somebody that they say, thank you for, like, is there a specific. Yeah, they're definitely

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is the biggest tip that I have for women periods. And I get a lot of pushback on this, but I'd truly
believe it. It's to wear lipstick. I know. And the reason I say that is because lipstick for women,
it number one, it paints a ring around your your your voice. It paints a ring around your

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information box. It makes people watch your mouth. It makes you brighten your whole, even if you do
nothing else, it brightens your entire face. It makes you look younger. It makes you appear to be
pulled together and polished, even if that's the only thing that you do. And lipstick is the one thing
that can change everything. I love the description of the voice box because we do. We pay attention.

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Yeah, attention. This is where the information comes. So why not like paint a red ring around it?
I love it. I'm so.
I'm going to start before I let you who are some of the mentors who've helped you along the way.

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That's a. That is, you know, if I didn't say. What did you learn from her? Oh my gosh. What did
I learn from her? Except the. Except the Tush comment. Well, I mean, I it was like a master class
in television sitting next to her every day. You know, I learned she she told me things and taught me

(54:08):
lessons that way, but she also just taught me lessons by watching it. It was so amazing to sit there
for two years with her. You know, I learned. Oh, okay, I'll tell you, I learned when to talk,
but more importantly, I learned when not to talk. Where we would do interviews and she'd say,

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and she was tough. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not, you know, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. Babs was tough,
but it was tough love in a good way. She never did it to try to make it feel insecure or the get,
you know, it was it was only to make you better, you know, because after all she was the one who hired me.
So she she, I think, took sort of full responsibility if I was good or if I was bad. She really took it

(54:53):
on herself. She's a master in you. Yeah, like a parent would with a child where you don't want to,
but you have no choice but to really be like, oh my gosh, internalized if your child doing something
that may not be the best thing. So that was one of the things and I also learned to trust myself
before I didn't. Like, she one time, I'll tell you the story. Oh, I don't think I've ever told this
room. Right before we went on camera. She, we all had blue cards. She took my cards and ripped them

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up. This is a live show. Okay. I was freaking out. It was a child. Everyone else had their cards. Why?
couldn't I have my cards? She took them up, ripped them up and threw them on the ground. She said, no cards
today for you, baby. And I was like, I thought I was going to vomit. The stage room was going 10, 9, 8.
And I know my eyes are welling up. I'm ready to cry. She said, no cards. You're better without them.

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Trust yourself. Wow. Wow. And I, because she was right. I would take the cards and I'd study, study,
study, study, and I'd read. Okay. This is my question and this is the question. From that day forward.
And by the way, it was probably one of the best shows I ever did. And afterwards she said, what
I tell you, she goes, I don't care about the questions on this card. Listen, listen, because you always

(56:01):
get a better question if you're just listening to the person who's talking to you. And that question
you wrote doesn't even matter. And she's right. So I learned a lot of lessons, but those were probably
the ones that have been the most helpful for my job. Well, I love what, you know, coming from both of you.
I mean, you know, I started as a page at ABC. I worked on Regis and Kathy Lee. And they hired me

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right out of college, but those are unique opportunities. We're all given, you know, to listen and watch
and observe and do better from those, you know, we just, you're given that opportunity. Or is
amazed me when people didn't really stand around like you just said, Debbie and watch. Like watch

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the things you learn in those studios by just sitting on the sidelines is an education you don't get
in college really. Yeah, it's, you can't put a price on that. It's incredible. You know, no, no
degree from NYU could have taught me any of the stuff I learned those first two years of the year.
Yeah, I was absolutely. Andy, for you, some of your mentors along? Oh, definitely. Without a doubt,

(57:12):
my number one mentor is Rhonda Brittney, who was actually my life coach on starting over. And she
changed my life in a thousand ways. So Rhonda is the founder of the Fearless Living Institute.
And she's done over 600 episodes of TV herself and has had, you know, great success, five books. But
she was my life coach on the show. She is my friend today. And she changed my life in a hundred ways.

(57:37):
Because again, you know, I talk about, you know, kind of the mortgage on my head and chasing the fact that,
you know, I was barefoot up until I was 10. I thought that there was a lot that I had to overcome.
And just like Debbie talks about, you know, not trusting yourself, I was always just afraid that
I was not enough or I wasn't good enough or I was a hillbilly or whatever it was, you know.

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And she's the one who actually taught me that the more of myself that I was, the better I was,
which is very similar to what Barbara actually did for you, Debbie. So in many ways, she changed my
life on the show and she changed the trajectory of my life in television and what I thought I was going to do.
So without a doubt, Rhonda Brittney, who is still writing books and still, you know, changing lives today.

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Yeah. It's lean into it as opposed to run from it, lean into it.
Yes. That's right. And don't like deny your past or who you are, whatever, because, you know,
what, just be you and be the best you can be because everyone else is taken. Yeah.
I don't want to be somebody else. I want to be me.
Oh, let me tell you this. Alan, Alan. Okay. So I have to share the thing that changed everything for me.

(58:48):
This was the advice that Rhonda gave me that changed everything for me because when people were saying,
"Oh, you should do this. You should do that." I'm like, there's like a thousand people doing this in
that. Like, why do it? It's going to listen to me. She said, "A third of the people are going to love you,
a third of the people are going to hate you, and a third of people are not going to give two poo poo's
about you." So do not focus on those two thirds. If you have one third loving you, that's a plenty.

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You can build a business. You can build a life. Yep. Oh, she's brilliant. Invite her to dinner.
Yes. She's invited. She is invited. You know, one last thing to both of you,
if piece of advice you would give to your younger selves today.

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Debbie, you have to go first. Oh gosh. So much, Alan. How about don't eat awful junk foods?
Then less time in the sun. How many others stop staying up so late? Don't do things that will
abuse your body. So the 20 years later, you're paying for it. You know, I mean, be kinder to yourself

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and be kinder to yourself, most importantly, mentally. Give yourself a break. Be okay with it.
Know you're going to make mistakes. It's not the end of the world. You know, don't be so hard on
yourself. Things should not be taken so seriously unless they are serious. And 9-10-10, they're not.

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Don't be so good. You know, I mean, you're going to look back and say, "Honey, why did I shed those tears
for that stupid guy or for that stupid job or for, oh my goodness, that you know, somebody said
something mean to me. Why? Life is too short. Just be kind. Try to make yourself as happy as possible.
And don't do anything like I said to abuse your body because you want to live to 100.

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That is none of me, Alan. If I could go back, I would have a lot more sex with the people that I
did not have sex with. Because all of us sexual overgrads are the people that I have sex with.
Oh my gosh. Oh gosh. I love you so much. So much. We can more now. I can give you the list of people

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that I did not have sex with. Oh yeah, let's put that out. Let's get the chirore I'm going.
I did not have sex with a lot of people I could have had sex with. But I was too scared and I was
a girl from Alabama. So I was, man, when I look back now, I'm like, I really should have done that.
Oh my gosh. I did not have sex with that woman.
Like really? I mean, so think about it. I was a model in the 80s and there was a lot going on.

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And if I were to tell you the list of people that I was either kind of like set up with or
went on one day, and then I got like freaked out, you would not believe the list. But yes,
if I could go back, I would tell myself to have sex with those people.
Well, you'll have to tell us that dinner. I know. That is a good. We'll pour some wine.

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Ladies, this has been such a polite. I agree. We'll end it. Right. It doesn't get better than that.
Does not. Does not. Thank you both so much. Such a pleasure. Well, it's so good to see you. Love you.
I guess we soon. Okay. Bye guys. Bye everybody. Thank you so much. Don't forget to go to shophomeinhart.com

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