January 16, 2026 • 47 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jon Pemberton, Jeff Grant, Harry McCallum, Tony Collins and Jacob Duffy.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Last night our harvest stream A very good morning. Welcome
along to the best of the muster, a collaboration of
interviews that took our attention during a hectic week here
at Hockenu e HQ. My name's Andy Muer, Thanks for
your company. Was starting off the hour by chatting with
John Pembleton, who farms it means his faery and recently
finished his year as enough Field scholar and tells us
all about what being this as part of the scholarship
(00:27):
program has told him about New Zealand agriculture. Very interesting insight.
Jeff Grant, Northern Southland farmer and business owner, talks about
election year and why the minority parties they have a
bigger say than normal, so it's all go as we
lead towards a general election later on in twenty twenty six,
Harry McCallum of Tiana Young Farmers is on the show
(00:49):
as well. Young Farmer's segment just goes gangbusters. You speak
to a lot of individuals passionate about the farming game,
but as well about the Young Farmer's organization. And Harry's
a pretty understated guy, but you listen to him as well.
Don't be fooled. That guy is very clued on on
what he's talking about. It just looks at young farmers
from a tiannial club's perspective. Tony Collins of the AA
(01:11):
talks fuel prices, gore prices for fuel in general are
cheaper than pretty much the rest of the country, and
he goes into detailers why as to why this occurs
and what we're going to see for the foreseeable future
in the fuel game down here in the Deep South.
And finally, Jacob Duffy Black Caps bowler. Of course his
origins were based in Lumsden. We caught up with him
(01:33):
yesterday's on yesterday's show just before he went to the
airport to go over to India as he prepares for
the T twenty World Cup. So without further ado, we'll
start the yell of John Pembleton. You're listening to the
best of the muster. John Pemberton of Menzies Fairy joins
(02:03):
us in the Sergeant Dan Farming round up. Thanks for
Sergeant D and stock foods here in good John, good afternoon,
and welcome to twenty twenty six on the Mustard.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I hope you had a good new year. Andy Yeah,
it was a good New year.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Spent it up in Tiannil. The weather was sometimes a
bit schizophrenic, but there were a few warmer days and
a few cooler days, but certainly this morning the latter.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, but hey, if it's bringing moisture, will take it.
Was desperately needed that rain. Then down in south and
by the locks. I think everybody's quite pleased to see it.
But you know, jeezu at sense like Targo, look at
cand of Revere's getting the fair drink of water. Actually
it seems to be when never see I think gets
ten mills, the rest of the country is given something
to twenty. Been an interesting season, that's for sure. But yeah,
(02:47):
grass growth is picking up and we're feeding out a
fee bit of the moment. We sort of open size
stick on Christmas Day, thinking of ten days, will close
it after that accumulation of close to sixty mills over
that week leading up for Christmas. But it's sort of
screened the plate up and we only really started growing,
really started growing grass the last three days with the
follow up rain.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Is it a common occurrence for you to be feeding
out at this time of year?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, it can be a yep, yep, you know, you
always you get the Christmas is always a dry period
leading up to Christmas. You know, we ever made hay,
it's always been normally able to get a December, to
be honest, if you're knocking around doing that. So Jimmy
camb be a whit month normly, can't it? So yep,
(03:32):
back on having having to feed out in december's pretty
normal in South.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So milk flowing the likes, has it been afected?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Milk's not too bad. Look, we took a wee bit
of a check around that cold front that it came
through after the storm that took all the trees out
and cut power back in October November. That that cold
week sort of just the cows of cranking really well,
and just ever since that week sort of they just
(04:02):
sort of stepped off down to what they were sort
of doing the previous year. So the our milk flowers,
you know, not complaining, they're still taking away pretty well.
So yeah, things are tread along reasonably to plan interesting
getting in calves. It's the main thing.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And a pleasant surprise last week with the GDT backing
the trend. I think of what the previous eight auctions
are A six point three percent rise. Whole milk powd
are going up seven point two percent.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, look Domond gloom talk from the travels last twelve months,
I've seen so many other avenues that for dering other
than just running, just keep reducing until until it becomes
a problem of seeing subsidies been lifted in the UK.
In Europe we're seeing beef as an alternative. So a
(04:50):
file was the US or European farmer, I'll be thinking
twice about putting replacement youth a semen into my cares
when you get one thousand dollars US for for d
old angus cross calf. So my I was sort of
always an opinion that overseas are yet quicker than New
Zealand A because their dollars were keeping us. We do
(05:11):
plan a different market. We're not fresh milk. We are
quite a different market.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I haven't quite had the answer in relation to a
Fontier is a big shift to the ingredients market like
open country plays and what does it now mean for
New Zealand around when the world is too much fresh
milk sloshing around? What is that does it? We's a
pinch point and so in the cost of production. You know,
(05:34):
the cost of productions compete to New Zealand has been
climbing overseas recently. I would have said three years ago
New Zealand was an expensive place to make milk, But
looking at what's happening now and the constraints around resources,
like we struggle with New Zealand around labor and such like,
it's no different overseas and they having to write a
big cheeks and stuff to work on farms. So nobody
wants to handle chicken shit, big shed or care ship
(05:58):
these days. As an employee want to drive track to
the GPS. Saw that in every single place I went to.
So no, I think opportunities for young people to get
into deering globally are still there because it's just people,
not people willing to work in that space. So no,
I'm not surprised to see it left. Well, we'll we'll
see what happens with the Yeah, I guess from now
(06:21):
on it's going to be a bit of a decider.
But having a dip before Christmas is probably to have
benefit all the thoughts and signals to the market straight
away that there's too much milk, So hopefully in the
spring we don't see a big tap turning on the
northern hems there.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Interesting that talk about the fecal terminology there, john O.
But what are you referring to in general regard to
young people in technology. They're just not prepared to roll
their hands their sleeves up as in previous generations.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Perhaps is it that or is it just societies are
so comfortable these days that when they started doing it tough,
there's still some luxuries in their lives. And you know,
I'm not saying that's just for young people, as even
the owners and the businesses aren't willing to adjust that.
I don't think there's been enough pain go through to
(07:08):
make people really assess what they're trying to where they're
heading for their business, to be honest. You know, you
see grain growers still buying machinery, and jeez, that whole
machinery discussions blowing up in the last twenty four months.
It just keeps climbing the price of replacing gear and
(07:28):
price of inputs. And you know, when I look at
a lot of these grain outfits overseas, I just don't
understand why they're integrating poultry or walk into their system
and having more circular system on farm and protein is
only going to head one way again, is my belief.
The year en is such like are realizing that animals
(07:49):
are required for food security for the world because they
are batteries. As far as they can crank production, you
can store it. You great crops, you've got to have
it off at a certain point, much shorter shelf life
and such like, so as far as in the paddock.
So I just think I don't think it's just about
(08:10):
young people. I think it's about NAG sector in general.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Based on that your years enough fields scholar has been
in gone. What's the biggest takeaways we'll get. What's the
biggest things you've learned from kipy perspective, I suppose.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think New Zealand is no difference anywhere else in
the world. I think I guess where I'm at at
the moment. I think he's on eggs a little bit
like the All Blacks. We've gone overseas, we've shown everyone
else how to do it and probably not just making
sure we're keeping going forward ourselves and some of that development.
And now we've got other countries that certainly can challenge
(08:48):
us around efficiencies and performance. I think New Zealand's sort
of got to bring back a bit more of the
underdog attitude rather than the look at us where the
best that's us saying to be the rhetoric coming out
of central government and the farming sector, which I don't
think there does anyone any favors around challenging having constructive
(09:13):
discussions to improve it for the next generation. I think
that's probably the biggest piece we're missing, and that's Yeah.
I guess you could probably correlate a lot to what's
happening with all Black's last four or five years, and yeah,
I think we just need to be a bit more
focused on outcomes and not doubling up resources. We can't
(09:34):
afford what the EU can, so what we do, we're
going to be smart. And I just wonder if we
need more cohesiveness around funding for science and research to
be more than one place run and scattered across different sectors,
and then politics being are to leverage off that. I
just think we need to protect me. I think I
(09:55):
Dfield's going to have me looking more at how do
we have more folk us on the outcomes and reacting
at the speed we need to to meet markets, environment
and let the science decide how that operates rather than
the politics.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Designing just quickly to wrap up National Lamb Day happening
Southern Field Days at way moment next February or next month,
I should say, so that's coming around quickly.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, it is this year bit more organized. We've got
FMG and rather Bank back on board supporting us, which
is fantastic to have this relationship building around funding because
it's allowing us to be far more organized each year.
This is a bit of a repeat of last year,
bit of a rinse and repeat thing that last year
was on a Saturday, the fifteenth of February. This year
(10:38):
it's on a Sunday, Southern Field Days once again helping
promote the day, which is fantastics on the Friday thirteenth.
As long as that celebration is happening and that's what's
been consumed on the day, I think it's a real
big success for Lamb Day if I can carry that
much broader message for the holding yonder celebrate good.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Only johnn to leave it there. Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Thanks Andy, tell me what.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Ever, tell me what welcome back. This is a muster
on Hockinui. Jeff Grant business owner, farmer as well and
former REMP joins us, amongst other portfolios that he's head
over the years. Joins us once again in the political
round at this Monday afternoon. Get a Jeff and welcome
(11:30):
to the new year.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Thanks Andy, and welcome to you and the listeners. It's
it's nice to see the sun out in twenty six hey.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Straight off the bet as well the passing of Sir
Tim Shedbolt. It didn't matter where you lived, almost in
Australasia for that matter, but everybody knew who the mirror
of inm for cargo was for quite a.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
While well, without any doubt at all. Someone was a
legion in the sense that he put in the cargo
on the map. He said he would when he first
stood as a quite a young flight as mayor, and
he made a huge contribution to local governor those years.
But more especially I think nobody could deny the passion
and enthusiasm he had for the role. And as well,
(12:14):
you know, he was a person that in a public
persona always bought jewelry and that was probably the thing
that I recognized the most in the years that I
had the opportunity and privileged to work with him was
that he could put the smile on people's faces and.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The passion and the unbridled joy that he shared for
not only in the Cargo but the Southland. It was
there was nobody, especially back in the mid nineties in
a political scenario, who had even come close.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, And the lovely thing I liked about him was
you knew you never left the room wondering what he
was thinking.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
He was always a boisterous enthusiast and somebody who had
the tenacity to read the room pretty good and always
had that capacity to you argue for different ways of
doing things, looking at things in a different way. And
I think that that was his major contribution over the years. Look,
(13:12):
he would he was like all of this, he had faults,
but the reality was if you look at the long
term and overall contribution, it was a mark on him,
the cargole that we won't forget for decades.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Rest and peace. Sir Tom Shrebolt. That is election year
the coalition and you're thinking they need to get a
few things right if they want to stay in government.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I think it's going to be this is going to
be the toughest year and it probably always is. An election,
but for the Coalition in the sense that there's a
lot promised to be done and you know, things like
the IRMA reform, while announced prior to Christmas, these are
major policy issues that need to be betted down. But
I think in the the reality is people will be
(13:55):
wondering where they're economics look like for them, and it's
old back pocket politics in the sense that if people
are feeling like the country is on the way up,
that'll be a positive for the Coalition, But if they
are still feeling like, you know, as we get to
the end of twenty six, that we're in a still
in the recession or the things that are not moving,
(14:17):
it's going to be tough.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Are you pretty positive that we're going to see a
lot of economic recovery this year?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Look, we Central tag has definitely noticed it, and even
parts of Southland in terms of the tourist industry, but
most of this is written on the back of international tourists.
You know. Domestically, people are still making that decision to
have five day holiday rather than a ten day holiday.
I think that people are still waiting to come out
(14:46):
of their mortgage rates at a lower aspect from where
they were two years ago, and so you know there's
not a cash around. I think provinces like Southland and
the Tagore probably benefiting hugely by the commodity prices across
all of the sectors and that shielded us a bit.
(15:06):
But look, the cities like christ Us, Wellington and Auckland
are still struggle.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
What would be your one piece of advice to Prime
Minister Lucks in an election, Ye're given that the vote
between the right is more or less going to be
spread between acts New Zealand. First, it seems a national oh.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Well, espresentially, I think you have to take your head
off to that. Here's a three way coalition that looks
like it's going to last the term. So that's a
reasonably good positive because that's the first I think the
second part of it is that you have to make
sure as the leading party that you put a stamp
on what the National Party is going to do in government,
(15:47):
because you've got to be careful that you don't lead
into the election looking like the tails being wagged by
the two minor parties. And that's going to be the
hard part.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Changes to the Alliance Group Chief executive Willi Visa is
stepping down from the role been an under eating twelve
months for Alliance overall.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yes, and look, I you know, Willie made a huge
contribution in the three years that he was the chief
executive and trying to turn the company around. While I
don't agree with the sort of outcome in terms of
the sale, the reality is doing Meat is probably the
best option they had in front of them. I think
that Willy has without any doubt, can leave knowing that
(16:30):
he had stayed with the company in whatever form you
may call it. But this is an indication of door
Meat's really going to start to ramp up in terms
of their ownership.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, that seems to be what I'm hearing around the traps.
What's happened has happened with the Lions. Now it's a
matter of just getting on with it and doing farming.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Absolutely, And you know, they've got to get they've got
to get back to the supply they had probably four years,
four or five years ago. They've got to make sure
they get confidence within farmistic apply them and that's that's,
you know, that's the hard job in front of them now.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
International unrest hangs over twenty twenty six. US President Donald
Trump doing what he's done with Venezuela. This question marks
as well regarding Columbia Greenland as well, which Denmark has
none too impressed about, as well as the rest of
the EU and Iran for goodness sake, over the past
couple of days. So as Bill Laurie used to say,
it's all happening.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Look, I think we thought twenty five was originally unsettled
in terms of that international politics. And look this. You know,
we're a trading nation. We export, you know, seventy percent
of what we produce and manufacturer and it and all
those sort of things, highly reliant reliant on the tourist numbers,
and so we are impacted hugely by this international prospect.
(17:51):
I think newsantourism ironically is benefiting as a place that's
safe to come and visit. I get the impression that
a lot of kiwis and the strains of avoiding going
through the US if they're transiting somewhere. So I think
we're going to see quite a bit of this. It's
the uncertainty that creates the difficulty and so on that basis,
(18:14):
I think, you know, both from commodity prices through to
how people are feeling, twenty six is going to be tough.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Do you see any positive ZI regatting this US stance
that can help in New Zealand?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Look, I think increasingly we are probably still a bit
of a favored nation, and you know we're seeing that
in a reduction of the tariff originally proposed across the sectors.
I think they had their capacity to export into the
US that we find but you know, you just need
to get you know, little least is becoming a for
(18:49):
the meat industries as an example, is a reasonably reliant
market with the decline in China, and so any well
it might be an Irn, it does field across the
the border, and that unsettling situation that could arise in
Iran will have some impact. I think that Europe still
feels very unsettled with the US in terms of their
(19:12):
relationship from NATO through to Ukraine, and so those things
will keep bubbling along, which just just creates that nervousness.
People don't buy forward in terms of wholesaling for product
to the extent they would have done three or four
years ago. So you just continue to have that.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Just finally, as well, Jief, forget your comment regarding these
beef tariffs. New zeal has avoided them, China's implemented them
on Australia and the likes, So that makes for interesting reading.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, look, without any doubt, you know all the good work.
Don't play foreign a fears some years ago, especially in
terms of getting a pre trade agreement with China, but
also just our international relationship across all ranger countries. This
is when it's in good stead for us. You know,
we've seen to be able to hold the line. And
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on that basis, we're seeing is not a country because
of the size as much as anything, but we're not.
We're not somebody that's gonna sit the international water. So
that for that reason, I think that helps us tremendously
and make it long continued.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Jeff Grant, always appreciate your time on the Muster. Happy
landscaping this afternoon. Harry McCallum, Tiana Young Farmers joins us
next for our weekly round that regard to young farmers
(20:41):
as we do here on the Muster. Harry, good afternoon,
and welcome to the new year. And pretty good. Hells
things up in the basin.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Not too bad. Wendy overcast Nah, just yeah, he up
with wedding drafts and what today.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Look, it's all been happening on the farm, like you say,
the waning season. You're getting through it now, it's gone
pretty well.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, it's not too bad now the numbers of the year,
which is quite good for us considering the spring that
we had this year. Just another week one and yeah,
new conditions, good, go your way a few lems away.
Just be another season really, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Sounds like that middle bowl of porridge. Your feed levels
are about right.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Yeah, you're not too bad. Yep, a bit of a
bit of feed, he'd sort of poking up all around
the place. So going the care of something to left
under the winter. But everything's looking pretty good, sos prety sharp.
You're right.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
No, it's now, of course the regional for the regional
finals for the Attiger South and Young Farmers. That's happening
in Gore, being hosted by a tiny and well in
the next couple of weeks truth be known and you've
got your name forward and you're one of the finalists.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah yep, now winning competing in Clinton last year and
must have he must have answered the questions right, So
now looking forward today, well.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I think you're under yourself. You've probably done pretty dumb
well to get through like you have.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Yeah, that's good, good, good group of leads and ladies
and that and that top eight group which is awesome
to see.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
But as well, there's going to be sibling rivalry. Your
brother Max is involved too, as he was with yourself
in the missbell For competition that happened near the end
of last year. Now you managed to get through a
place there in that mess of night, so he might
be up for a bit of redemption in this you reckon.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Yeah, it's not really something to sort of go on
a bit. We sort of just want to leave that
last year. But oh, that's really cool that you're competing
against my brother and competition not that So no, really
looking forward today, is.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
He asking you for a few tips, because of course
you were saying off here just briefly before, mate, that
you're involved a couple of years ago. So what do
you tell them?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I'm probably asking him for tips because he was involved
last year, to be fair, it was too Yeah, yeah,
so oh it's always competitive, But that's looking forward to.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, that's hit me in a few weeks and gore,
so we'll be all over that too. Now, as far
as young Farmer's up there on the basin. That's pretty active.
What's been going on?
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I would have been up to last year. We had
a bit of a Christmas dove down in Blackmount and
the Baker's there with griggering Vick and it was good
to have a bit of a debrief there. And then
well it's been happening on a few of the young
farmers showed face down of the Pcago races and the
Thornberry Nightcare Young Farmer's Tent.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I don't really know.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I'm gonna find out tomorrow night what's sort of wintering
up there. And yeah, and other than that, we're going
to first meeting tomorrow night. We're going to hold out
at the dog Troll Club, just somewhere a bit different
than the pot luck, and sort of discussed the next
for what's the next three four months? We'll see for
us ay.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So what what do you envisaged the next three or
four months holding?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Well, we've got we've got a company people helping out
the speed shears. This Friday's wall shed, so that'll be
cool for young farmers to flooded. Bit of a bend
of the year. Got a Golden Standard competition on the
twenty third, it's night case the hold on it and
it's going to be a bulls and bowls night, but
of tweet and Sheese cdotheined evening and then yeah, I
(24:14):
think we're just going to take a dusty bunch of
krillers up to the regional final and go from there.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
That's the bunch of critters just.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Pretty much that's involved, anyone that's involved from family at
the moment. She's an unreal cricket line out there for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Oh you're really selling it, man, it'll give it to you.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
That's good, good, good good. It's a real good group
of people. So yeah, we haven't really changed changed numbers.
Two matches on the club. But in all the time
you're coming back, so must be doing something right in
the club.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah. Well you guys have been uping and running again
since you came back from hiatus a few years ago.
And just go over those numbers again. You're getting at
your at your meetings, Harry.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Yeah, So I think we kept going about twenty twenty two,
started at Bear carp and we're and there's teen twelve
for about and then yeah, people got a bit of
wind and yeah, I think we're sort of sitting around
that thirty. I think we're about twenty five to thirty
paid up, but we're sort of some meetings we're about
thirty thirty five. Han't quite cracked the four. Oh but no,
(25:16):
it's it's real positive as it's awesome for some of
these young fellows to come and show face and sort
of get a part of our club, which is quite
a community club as well. So yeah, it's gives everyone
a good excuse to get off farm essentially.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, and I like how you say it's a community
club too. So from your perspective, what do you bring
to the community.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Well, we try it. Well, we asked a lot. We've
asked a lot to help out with community events just around.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
So.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
We've been asked to help you out with the Don
Trials a couple of years ago, asked to help out
at the Mavor Explore. I think they're running again or
they are running again this year. That's the running race
to support the Narrow Primary School. Yeah, a few other things.
We've marsh with a few boat ramps at the at
the Labor Working Fishing Camp. We've got to ask to
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be in a float for the Christmas too. That it
was gonna be a hard note because I know what's
sort of caliber of people we've got in their club. Yeah,
and also like not just the our community, the other
community as well, like obviously that yeah, that must be Alfa.
A few of us went down there and helped out
with that and all the proceeds so that went to
the Alpha Wole for a new kitchen. Just I think
(26:35):
we're definitely doing something positive, which is good. Don't worry,
we do make it up with a few niggertives as well.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, then you're sa cond tribute to the bad takings
around the area as well. Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Oh? Yeah, now I've definitely got to definitely got to
tell it keeps the dusty n Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
No, it's always good to cat chat with you guys
and see what's going on there, Harry, because there's a
lot of great things going on. But you also just
before we go as well, you guys enjoy picking up
rocks for club activities, don't you.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I don't think enjoyable with the right word. We don't
want to spend the money that we earn from it,
that's for sure, but it's it's a bit of a
tough one to get people too mind you. Our last
rock picking fundraiser, we excellingly had twenty.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It's a lot.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I had about eighteen people turn up with the sleezer
Head three trickers Gan three Yeah, three trickers Gon. So
I don't know. Yeah, I'm trying to talk about like
it's real.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Fun, but it's just you're picking up rocks.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
That was strictly character building.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, character building, like digging up a race for reading
and airs on the mate. But hey as well, before
you go, give a bit of a plug Tianni rugby.
You're after a couple of players, here's your chance.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah, okay, Rugby we're going to be playing dev two
this year, singing out the front rowers. But at the
same time, if you're back with a bit of carrying
a bit from Christmas, then yeah we're looking for those
as well. But now we're going to be a pretty
good team this year. And yeah we're going to start.
We having a barbecue this Friday the Rugby Club, just
a bit of a meet and greet with the new
(28:01):
coaches and the team players and yeah, now we're really
looking forward to the season, but definitely looking something like
the rest of New Zealand, just looking for those three
in the front, big lead, big chest for taking us through.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Good on your Harry, all the best for the read
for the disk, for the regionals that is, and we'll
catch up in due course. Always good to catch up.
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of goal this stone. Welcome back to the muster. Now, well,
before we wrap up, this is going to be a
really interesting chat. Terry Collins is Principal policy advisor for
the AA. He's on the line and you may have
noticed fuel down here in the South is pretty cheap
compared to arguably a lot of the rest of the country.
(29:15):
We can talk about the South service stations, how they've
come into the mainstream pretty much over the past four
or five years, But what exactly is it about the
South that gives us these prices for fuels and what's
going to happen over the next year or so. Terry,
thanks for joining us on the muster.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
That's great and good to be here.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Firstly, why is Gore arguably a hotbed for fuel prices?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
One word competition? What's happened over the last few years.
A decade ago maybe two, we had something known as
the Gull effect, and that was a model, low cost
model with a pump, about a card reader, nobody on site,
and some lights and they had low overheads what basically
had of getting traction in the market. And then MPD
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came along, Tomo came up, some of the big guys
like z Look rechange the logos as you go, VP
of Mobile and now doing other sites that are just
following it model. So what model is is they reduce
the costs as much as possible to deliver it to
you and they rely upon volume, small margin, big volume.
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That creates competition because that's fighting with everybody in your
area for there to get my fill up when you
go to the service station. And they're doing that by
trying to off on the cheaper posts.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Because off the top of the head, we've got at
least five self service fuel stations and Gore two of
the big boys who are big players in there as
such as well. So this will pretty much be the
reason around that, I suppose very much.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
And everybody's copping the model. Turns out, funnily enough, we
all like buying chip Hill. You know, it's a fairly
homogeneous product. Doesn't really matter who makes it. It still
powers our car the same way. And so what you
can lie upon if you've got a similar standard of fuel,
nearly the big determinant is the price you pay for.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
So let's proposed merge of between gallon MPD for example,
if it goes through, they've got separate stations here in Gore.
Is that going to have any effect at all?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
The Commerce Commission will look at the locality of those stores.
There are a couple of round it. We've got one
and CV and Wellington when the two of them are together,
and what they'll try to do is just divest themselves
and perhaps one of them. That may be what they
call requirement is so that they don't have it and
immediately the same area. But potentially it makes common sense
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is kind of merger. What happened was Goal was z
owned by an investment company that they had to sell it.
When Z bought Z was purchased by Ampol, which was
Celtic's Australia and if they hadn't sold the Goal, they
would have a fifty one percent in the market and
the Commerce Commission wasn't going to about it, so they
had to sell Goal. Investment Company brought it. They're in
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the business level and making investments MPD. He has a
fifty year old self WHILEGN company with a long experience
of running petrol ones. So you've got a relatively management teams.
You've got all the logistics mainly in the south for
MPD and mainly in the north of Goal. You've got
timer oial services or the depoting and Timarua MPD, and
you've got the depoting and mount or for Goal. Also
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when they sold Goal, they had a five year contract
to have well supplied to them from Ampole Australia. That's
halfway through that contract. So combining these two smaller companies
into a larger companies means they have more buying power
and the Singapore binaries so they can get cheaper fuel.
They'll have a lower overheads. Pictures of to use the
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logistics and trucking and their storage units more efficiently and
hopefully all those savings that they're going to make gets
passed on to us for notice.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Terry, would you say there's still room in the market
for smaller players, independent players to come into the fuel game.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I think there's not a barrier to entry. I think
basically if you can secure your fuel source, there's actually
building and the resource consent for the service station. They're
not particularly difficult technologies there. It's a card reader, it's
the thousands, which we've been making for years and just
connittuing all and making it easy to use.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Regarding the price of fuel, is a geographic location that
effectively makes New Zealand to captive market, hence our pricing.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, what we find when we look at all the
analysis of the fuel is that we get put variances
price within regions and between regions, and really it just
comes down to that competition and what day of the
week will so you bought it. So you can talk
about an average price, we really no such thing because
they very up and down. But if you added them
all up, you would get an average. What the companies
do on certain days of the week, they offer good
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discounts and gulets on tuesdays, and so what you tend
to find is that Monday, Tuesday cheap fuel, Tuesday Wednesday
chup fuel. But then the prices wouldn't they go up,
that they go back to the original level over the weekend,
because we know that we've got the weekend off, we
might from the vote up and take the car out,
do all those other things. So they know that market,
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that sustainable volume is going to be there over the days.
It's only those other quieter days in the beginning of
the week they offer a good discount, so you want
to fill up the pace to fill up look around
on those ULIE parts of the week, around Tuesday, around Tuesday,
those kinds of days, and they usually the best price office.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
As far as the conflicts that are occurrying around the world,
how much does that impact on air pricing.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It can. We saw it was the Russian Ukrainian one,
but remember Russia was the third largest oil producer at
the time, and so that we had to begin pack.
We didn't see the same with this master attack on
Israel because neither was a oil producer. The current issue
around Venezuela. Venezuela has got the world's largest oil reserves
but they can't really turn on production that their production
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has been declined in about a third of what they
did a decade ago. They put out less in a
million barrels a day, and rural demand right now is
about one hundred and two millions, so they were an
insignificant player. The last couple of days, I've seen the
price of international oil go up because of the chest
beating from Trump. With Iran around as an oil supplier,
and so the kind of the gambling in the market,
(35:00):
so to speak. I've just been pricing in a little
bit of risk around that. We've got plenty of oil
out there in the world. There's no shortage of it,
and so these prices rarely, we hope, and particularly in
the swast quarter of twenty twenty six, will be about
what they are here.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
They shouldn't go up, so it should stay pretty relative
for where we are. Because considering what's happened with Venezuela
and Donald Trump saying he's taking over the oil reserves
and the likes for the interim anyway, we're not going
to see much of a rebound of markets around the
world because that was a big concern.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
No, not particularly look at the other thing about that Venezuela.
That's what's known as heavy and seer, so it's got
a lot of solt for in it, and you taxa
specialized refinery to crack it. They have those refineries a
bit fined them around Louisiana and Texas. The US have
optimized the ones so it will be handy and benefit globally.
(35:54):
We'll do globally. Would be had a bit of a
tight supplier around diesel. Hopefully that will put more diesel
on the market and drop the processes of a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
As far as Marsden Point refinery closing, what impact has
that had.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It's had done.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Really what did?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
It's took away some of our security of supply, But
we were never refining New Zealand. Will we produce a
world which is called light and sweet. It's good for
making gasoline and it doesn't have much sulfur, which makes
it a really handy fuel. And we were seeing it
to refineries in Australia, not to Marsden Point because Marsden
Point was optimized to refine a heavier type of crude.
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Now all we're doing is going up to Singapore, Korean.
None of the Asian refineries and saying here's the specification
of our fuel. Who can give you the best price?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
So regarding the fuel that's supplied by the companies is
not a lot of you know, they talk about the
quality of the fuel certain players being better than others.
Is that just a myth?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah? Look, if there's a little is about two cents
libert lest some two cents called the engine oil monetary
levy and that goes towards trading standard. I used to
be a trading standards officer, so I know this one
for many years. And they go out and they sample
the fuel, and every sample I've seen so far that
the publicly disclosed usually means the octane level of the
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fuel is greater than what it's been disclosed.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Now, underesting insight there, Terry. Thanks for your time, And
like we say, you just got to go into your
due diligence and find out when these fuel the prices occur,
because like you say, the starting near the end of
the week is when you're going to find them, right.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, And I'll just get the right fuel for the car.
And you've got a high compression bodyn so it tastes
used to sleep because you need it for the high compression,
so yeah, vehicle does it knock. Other than that, there's
not a lot of calorphic values, a lot of energy,
but difference between the two it's only around what your
compression oates the car is what fuel you should be using.
The soupers are a bit cleaner, they've got a detergent
in it, so they'll run it, but realistically the standards
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all the same. The fuel is pretty much the same.
And unless you've got a classic car which fifty sixty
years old or something where you might need to run
an added because of the valve steams they used to
put lead in petrol lubricate your build. That's a bit
the only thing to worry about.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
There's plenty of those vehicles running around. Gord Terry Collins,
AA Principal Policy Advisor, Thanks very much for your time
on the muster.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Thanks Avy, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
That de nights gotta be a good night. That to night's.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Gotta be a good night.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
This is the Muster on Hakanui. Jacob Duffy black Caps
Bowl are about to head over to India for a
few months. That's the truth. But of the truth snow
and he's got the Black Caps t twenty World Cup
campaign and then the OPL following Not long after. He's
had a bit of a breakover summer and joins us
once again for a chat. Jacob, good afternoon today. Here
(38:46):
you going, Yeah, pretty good. We'd just like to sort
the weather out. I mean you're a cricketer. You know
what it's like when you're board there waiting for the
sun to come out.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Yeah, crets a funny on it. Sometimes you want to
end sometimes as the worst trainers. Don't know if you
saw the game and you say we had this mizzly
crap that just hang around. We're on and off and
deciding what to do. So either pissed down or the sunshine,
that makes how.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I like it?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
So what's it like though? If you're a bowler and
the weather's doing what it does and it's not playing
ball as such? Does it? Does it just gus frustrating?
You just want the umpires to make a call one
way or the other so you can just get on
with stuff.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Yeah, it is, especially you know, like the warming up
warming down. We had a lot of that at the
start at the well in the springtime for October November,
so that Australia England series has a lot on off
and just it's no, it's not good for anyone like
you lose your rhythm as a bowl though the betters
don't like it. It's just frustrating. But that's the weather, mate.
I know you're on a farming show, so I think
(39:42):
you probably talk weather quite a bit. But yeah, it's just, yeah,
something you can't control the crackit, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, it's fair to say Weather's a bit of a
conversation started down here mate. Now we talk about the
stelly year you had last season, especially your breakout season
with the black Caps as such, especially in the Test arena.
Did you managed to get a bit of a rest
over summer because you must have been sick of the
side of a red ball.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
The whole year really, there was no real gaps in
the calendar. So after that test serious sort of Rob
just said you just go chill for a little bit,
which was quite nice. So the boys left for the
twenty ODII series on. I think it was the fourth
of January, so I've been lucky enough to have I
got that series off, which you know, I never thought
I'd be choosing to rest, you know, International cricket. But
(40:29):
I guess just without how everything is going and the
time away I got coming up, it just kind of
made sense. So have that time off and just you know,
I had a Christmas at home, which for a cricket
is pretty radic at that time. Just chilling my family,
which was cool. And then yeah, just gear enough and
spend some time with the wife and now off today
and read to go again for a big shift over
an India.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
And of course you got to play a couple of
games for your beloved vaults.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Yeah, yeah, it was cool. There was more. Yeah, it
was just I feel like I'd get rusty quite quick,
so just to blow some cob web was out and
get the feel for you know, twenty twenty again. So
you're boling your change ups in New Yorker's which obviously
after a month of test cricket haven't had much to do,
haven't had been able to do much of that, So
just to get a bit of game, bit of game time,
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and and then hopefully had a ground running in India
in a few days one.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Now, of course, the vaults are the vaults now, not
the Otago vaults as they have been for white form
White bull cricket. That is, you are one of the
main drivers for this, along the log and Savory and
the Light, so you'll be pretty chaffed with the outcome
than the change the name.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Yeah, man, I'm super proud of that. I guess there's
the conversation for South of that's going up down there,
and you know you're planning for the arch nemesis to
Tago teams the pinnacle of the area, which yeah, I
still don't quite sit well for me and a few
of the other kids down there. I know that for sure.
So it is it's a starting point, I guess. I
guess there's only the twenty twenty teams dropped the Targo
(41:50):
tag down to the vaults, and yeah, even that I
don't think capsulates what the region represents. I guess my
my end goal would be to like maybe a Southern
or something for across the board in terms of you know,
your age group cricket. You've got your underservent teams. You're
under nineteens girls and boys growing up in South and
trying to make the Southern team instead of the Ottager teams.
So that's my pipe dream and that's my that's where
(42:13):
I want the listening to get to But I guess
it's one step at a time and it's a starting
point that I guess the associations realize.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Realized.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
You know, the Otago things a thing I guess for
Southenders it.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Is a big thing to have a name change, to suppose,
and you think of the history that goes back in time.
But I mean you look at the Highlanders and Super
Regular franchises and such. To get more engagement with the franchises,
that's why they did it. So arguably the case is
there for the Vaults. If you're going through to Dunedin,
you want to be part of a team that encumbents
as a year. You're not just the province right exactly.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
I know the Hahanders did it. Yeah a few years
back their song and everything changed, But you're right around
the history and tradition cricket obviously goes along a lot
further back than the Hinds compted, So you know there's
I guess when the when the Attago first class team
first started playing, I think a southing didn't even exist
at the time, so that actually was the Otago region.
(43:06):
So there is history and you know there's talks about
maybe the itager. The first class team remains a Targo,
but there everything else changes to Southern or whatever it
might be. I guess we're open to the suggestions and ideas,
but like I said, it's a starting point, so we'll
go from there and figured it out as we go,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
So as far as preparing to go over to India,
And how long did you actually get off about touching
a cricket battle ball.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
That's the thing as a.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Bowler, you can't stop. So even though you know I
had had a break, I was still bowling through that
break and albeit just probably a little bit half ast
if monus. So just you know, taking a ball by
the lads are rough and central Targo for the twenty twenty.
So when it popped onto a couple of training for
beers and just didn't do it, you know it didn't
take it too seriously. Just keep the body ticking over,
(43:53):
you know, bowling loads, and I'm sure you've heard about
injuries and stuff that's happened in the in the Black
Kip's environments. The bowling loads are a hot topic at
the moment. Even if you get through a truck kind
of work you've still got to set sort of keep
ticking over, so you can't exactly go cold turkey. So
I sort of bowling once or tice a week. And
S and C trainer also likes a seek view that
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time is a nice wee window to get some listening
and running into. So it was a working hole. They
put it that way.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
No backyard cricket through the Christmas season.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
They wore the.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Actually, yeah, there was the brothers and nephews and nieces
chand to drag us out there.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
So we did.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
That's always good fund down on Christmas Day out in
the back lall and that was yeah, that was good,
fun enough and fortually, well.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Let's be honest, you're able to bring the check because
you can, Okay.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
So but through brothers they handing up. Yeah, yeah, they
brought they brought some good.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Y to it.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Okay. So you're going to India for quite a while,
truth to be known, how do you prepare for something
like that? It was almost a case into the unknown,
I suppose.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
Yeah, yeah, it is a little but we're going some
through got five twenty twenties before the World Cup, and
they're all on pretty random places that I'll be Honest,
I've never heard before, so I've got no idea what
we're walking into in that, Regardo. I know it'll be India,
so it won't be too seen the friendly But yeah,
I've played a couple of games with the Vaults obviously,
which is good just to buy some cobbles out and
(45:16):
get a bit of that game time back and feel
the rhythm again. Any I guess it's a twenty twenty series,
but I guess there's an element of sort of gearing
up to the World Cup, which is the main goal.
So I got five internationals to compete and try a win.
But I guess in the back of your head we're
sort of preparing and getting ready for a World Cup.
(45:36):
So in India against India, you can't get a bit
of prepped that.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
When I thought, yeah, and Darryl Mitchell getting there earnings
the other day, do you get it to your feet
when you're watching the black Caps on Telly at the
moment considering you're part of the setup?
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Definitely? Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Sitting there home with my wife the other day and
obviously happy to be home and she's happy to hit
me there, But the little part of me it feels
like they're missing out. You know, the boys are steaming
and falling over in India and some cool crowds and
stuff that looked like So, yeah, it doesn't feel right.
I guess I had the option to be there and
not to be there, and to choose not to be
(46:09):
I I didn't. Yeah, it's a funny one. Like I
guess I've never thought that situation would occur to me,
But I guess with what's coming out that sort of
just mean and WhatsApp and it sort of just made sense.
So but there's definitely a part of me sat there
and man, I wish I.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Was there now going over to India, Shane Warn infamously
once got to heave a baked beans shipped over there
because he wasn't a fan of the calinary delights locally.
How are you going to go with for the food
situation because it is different to what will be used
to being Westerners obviously, let's be honest.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Yeah, I've been here a few times now and you
can sort of get what you want to be fear
the foods. It's amazing food experiences over there. I Ratch
and Revenge seems to have a lot of contacts, so
I think we get looked after pretty well, and a
lot of the places that he's been to before in
their account and stuff. So that's always fun to get
experience and try some of that stuff. But I have
also you know where it's really or Pakistan or India.
(47:01):
I do it seemed to get sick every time, so
I'm sure there'll be one time of the next four
months I'll be I'll be hugging a toilet bowl. But yeah,
I don't know. You you've got to You've got to
take the good of the beat, I guess, because there
are some bloody good stuff there too.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
It's not I'll have the strangers dream. Jacob Duffy, Bear
of the black Caps, wrapping up the best of the muster.
Enjoy the weekend if you're playing a bit of sport,
hopefully the way that plays ball. We'll see what mother
nature does over the next forty eight hours. And so
my name is Andy Bwert. See you Monday, as
Last night our harvest stream A very good morning. Welcome
along to the best of the muster, a collaboration of
interviews that took our attention during a hectic week here
at Hockenu e HQ. My name's Andy Muer, Thanks for
your company. Was starting off the hour by chatting with
John Pembleton, who farms it means his faery and recently
finished his year as enough Field scholar and tells us
all about what being this as part of the scholarship
(00:27):
program has told him about New Zealand agriculture. Very interesting insight.
Jeff Grant, Northern Southland farmer and business owner, talks about
election year and why the minority parties they have a
bigger say than normal, so it's all go as we
lead towards a general election later on in twenty twenty six,
Harry McCallum of Tiana Young Farmers is on the show
(00:49):
as well. Young Farmer's segment just goes gangbusters. You speak
to a lot of individuals passionate about the farming game,
but as well about the Young Farmer's organization. And Harry's
a pretty understated guy, but you listen to him as well.
Don't be fooled. That guy is very clued on on
what he's talking about. It just looks at young farmers
from a tiannial club's perspective. Tony Collins of the AA
(01:11):
talks fuel prices, gore prices for fuel in general are
cheaper than pretty much the rest of the country, and
he goes into detailers why as to why this occurs
and what we're going to see for the foreseeable future
in the fuel game down here in the Deep South.
And finally, Jacob Duffy Black Caps bowler. Of course his
origins were based in Lumsden. We caught up with him
(01:33):
yesterday's on yesterday's show just before he went to the
airport to go over to India as he prepares for
the T twenty World Cup. So without further ado, we'll
start the yell of John Pembleton. You're listening to the
best of the muster. John Pemberton of Menzies Fairy joins
(02:03):
us in the Sergeant Dan Farming round up. Thanks for
Sergeant D and stock foods here in good John, good afternoon,
and welcome to twenty twenty six on the Mustard.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I hope you had a good new year. Andy Yeah,
it was a good New year.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Spent it up in Tiannil. The weather was sometimes a
bit schizophrenic, but there were a few warmer days and
a few cooler days, but certainly this morning the latter.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, but hey, if it's bringing moisture, will take it.
Was desperately needed that rain. Then down in south and
by the locks. I think everybody's quite pleased to see it.
But you know, jeezu at sense like Targo, look at
cand of Revere's getting the fair drink of water. Actually
it seems to be when never see I think gets
ten mills, the rest of the country is given something
to twenty. Been an interesting season, that's for sure. But yeah,
(02:47):
grass growth is picking up and we're feeding out a
fee bit of the moment. We sort of open size
stick on Christmas Day, thinking of ten days, will close
it after that accumulation of close to sixty mills over
that week leading up for Christmas. But it's sort of
screened the plate up and we only really started growing,
really started growing grass the last three days with the
follow up rain.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Is it a common occurrence for you to be feeding
out at this time of year?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, it can be a yep, yep, you know, you
always you get the Christmas is always a dry period
leading up to Christmas. You know, we ever made hay,
it's always been normally able to get a December, to
be honest, if you're knocking around doing that. So Jimmy
camb be a whit month normly, can't it? So yep,
(03:32):
back on having having to feed out in december's pretty
normal in South.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So milk flowing the likes, has it been afected?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Milk's not too bad. Look, we took a wee bit
of a check around that cold front that it came
through after the storm that took all the trees out
and cut power back in October November. That that cold
week sort of just the cows of cranking really well,
and just ever since that week sort of they just
(04:02):
sort of stepped off down to what they were sort
of doing the previous year. So the our milk flowers,
you know, not complaining, they're still taking away pretty well.
So yeah, things are tread along reasonably to plan interesting
getting in calves. It's the main thing.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And a pleasant surprise last week with the GDT backing
the trend. I think of what the previous eight auctions
are A six point three percent rise. Whole milk powd
are going up seven point two percent.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, look Domond gloom talk from the travels last twelve months,
I've seen so many other avenues that for dering other
than just running, just keep reducing until until it becomes
a problem of seeing subsidies been lifted in the UK.
In Europe we're seeing beef as an alternative. So a
(04:50):
file was the US or European farmer, I'll be thinking
twice about putting replacement youth a semen into my cares
when you get one thousand dollars US for for d
old angus cross calf. So my I was sort of
always an opinion that overseas are yet quicker than New
Zealand A because their dollars were keeping us. We do
(05:11):
plan a different market. We're not fresh milk. We are
quite a different market.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I haven't quite had the answer in relation to a
Fontier is a big shift to the ingredients market like
open country plays and what does it now mean for
New Zealand around when the world is too much fresh
milk sloshing around? What is that does it? We's a
pinch point and so in the cost of production. You know,
(05:34):
the cost of productions compete to New Zealand has been
climbing overseas recently. I would have said three years ago
New Zealand was an expensive place to make milk, But
looking at what's happening now and the constraints around resources,
like we struggle with New Zealand around labor and such like,
it's no different overseas and they having to write a
big cheeks and stuff to work on farms. So nobody
wants to handle chicken shit, big shed or care ship
(05:58):
these days. As an employee want to drive track to
the GPS. Saw that in every single place I went to.
So no, I think opportunities for young people to get
into deering globally are still there because it's just people,
not people willing to work in that space. So no,
I'm not surprised to see it left. Well, we'll we'll
see what happens with the Yeah, I guess from now
(06:21):
on it's going to be a bit of a decider.
But having a dip before Christmas is probably to have
benefit all the thoughts and signals to the market straight
away that there's too much milk, So hopefully in the
spring we don't see a big tap turning on the
northern hems there.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Interesting that talk about the fecal terminology there, john O.
But what are you referring to in general regard to
young people in technology. They're just not prepared to roll
their hands their sleeves up as in previous generations.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Perhaps is it that or is it just societies are
so comfortable these days that when they started doing it tough,
there's still some luxuries in their lives. And you know,
I'm not saying that's just for young people, as even
the owners and the businesses aren't willing to adjust that.
I don't think there's been enough pain go through to
(07:08):
make people really assess what they're trying to where they're
heading for their business, to be honest. You know, you
see grain growers still buying machinery, and jeez, that whole
machinery discussions blowing up in the last twenty four months.
It just keeps climbing the price of replacing gear and
(07:28):
price of inputs. And you know, when I look at
a lot of these grain outfits overseas, I just don't
understand why they're integrating poultry or walk into their system
and having more circular system on farm and protein is
only going to head one way again, is my belief.
The year en is such like are realizing that animals
(07:49):
are required for food security for the world because they
are batteries. As far as they can crank production, you
can store it. You great crops, you've got to have
it off at a certain point, much shorter shelf life
and such like, so as far as in the paddock.
So I just think I don't think it's just about
(08:10):
young people. I think it's about NAG sector in general.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Based on that your years enough fields scholar has been
in gone. What's the biggest takeaways we'll get. What's the
biggest things you've learned from kipy perspective, I suppose.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I think New Zealand is no difference anywhere else in
the world. I think I guess where I'm at at
the moment. I think he's on eggs a little bit
like the All Blacks. We've gone overseas, we've shown everyone
else how to do it and probably not just making
sure we're keeping going forward ourselves and some of that development.
And now we've got other countries that certainly can challenge
(08:48):
us around efficiencies and performance. I think New Zealand's sort
of got to bring back a bit more of the
underdog attitude rather than the look at us where the
best that's us saying to be the rhetoric coming out
of central government and the farming sector, which I don't
think there does anyone any favors around challenging having constructive
(09:13):
discussions to improve it for the next generation. I think
that's probably the biggest piece we're missing, and that's Yeah.
I guess you could probably correlate a lot to what's
happening with all Black's last four or five years, and yeah,
I think we just need to be a bit more
focused on outcomes and not doubling up resources. We can't
(09:34):
afford what the EU can, so what we do, we're
going to be smart. And I just wonder if we
need more cohesiveness around funding for science and research to
be more than one place run and scattered across different sectors,
and then politics being are to leverage off that. I
just think we need to protect me. I think I
(09:55):
Dfield's going to have me looking more at how do
we have more folk us on the outcomes and reacting
at the speed we need to to meet markets, environment
and let the science decide how that operates rather than
the politics.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Designing just quickly to wrap up National Lamb Day happening
Southern Field Days at way moment next February or next month,
I should say, so that's coming around quickly.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, it is this year bit more organized. We've got
FMG and rather Bank back on board supporting us, which
is fantastic to have this relationship building around funding because
it's allowing us to be far more organized each year.
This is a bit of a repeat of last year,
bit of a rinse and repeat thing that last year
was on a Saturday, the fifteenth of February. This year
(10:38):
it's on a Sunday, Southern Field Days once again helping
promote the day, which is fantastics on the Friday thirteenth.
As long as that celebration is happening and that's what's
been consumed on the day, I think it's a real
big success for Lamb Day if I can carry that
much broader message for the holding yonder celebrate good.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Only johnn to leave it there. Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Thanks Andy, tell me what.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Ever, tell me what welcome back. This is a muster
on Hockinui. Jeff Grant business owner, farmer as well and
former REMP joins us, amongst other portfolios that he's head
over the years. Joins us once again in the political
round at this Monday afternoon. Get a Jeff and welcome
(11:30):
to the new year.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Thanks Andy, and welcome to you and the listeners. It's
it's nice to see the sun out in twenty six hey.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Straight off the bet as well the passing of Sir
Tim Shedbolt. It didn't matter where you lived, almost in
Australasia for that matter, but everybody knew who the mirror
of inm for cargo was for quite a.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
While well, without any doubt at all. Someone was a
legion in the sense that he put in the cargo
on the map. He said he would when he first
stood as a quite a young flight as mayor, and
he made a huge contribution to local governor those years.
But more especially I think nobody could deny the passion
and enthusiasm he had for the role. And as well,
(12:14):
you know, he was a person that in a public
persona always bought jewelry and that was probably the thing
that I recognized the most in the years that I
had the opportunity and privileged to work with him was
that he could put the smile on people's faces and.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The passion and the unbridled joy that he shared for
not only in the Cargo but the Southland. It was
there was nobody, especially back in the mid nineties in
a political scenario, who had even come close.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, And the lovely thing I liked about him was
you knew you never left the room wondering what he
was thinking.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
He was always a boisterous enthusiast and somebody who had
the tenacity to read the room pretty good and always
had that capacity to you argue for different ways of
doing things, looking at things in a different way. And
I think that that was his major contribution over the years. Look,
(13:12):
he would he was like all of this, he had faults,
but the reality was if you look at the long
term and overall contribution, it was a mark on him,
the cargole that we won't forget for decades.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Rest and peace. Sir Tom Shrebolt. That is election year
the coalition and you're thinking they need to get a
few things right if they want to stay in government.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I think it's going to be this is going to
be the toughest year and it probably always is. An election,
but for the Coalition in the sense that there's a
lot promised to be done and you know, things like
the IRMA reform, while announced prior to Christmas, these are
major policy issues that need to be betted down. But
I think in the the reality is people will be
(13:55):
wondering where they're economics look like for them, and it's
old back pocket politics in the sense that if people
are feeling like the country is on the way up,
that'll be a positive for the Coalition, But if they
are still feeling like, you know, as we get to
the end of twenty six, that we're in a still
in the recession or the things that are not moving,
(14:17):
it's going to be tough.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Are you pretty positive that we're going to see a
lot of economic recovery this year?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Look, we Central tag has definitely noticed it, and even
parts of Southland in terms of the tourist industry, but
most of this is written on the back of international tourists.
You know. Domestically, people are still making that decision to
have five day holiday rather than a ten day holiday.
I think that people are still waiting to come out
(14:46):
of their mortgage rates at a lower aspect from where
they were two years ago, and so you know there's
not a cash around. I think provinces like Southland and
the Tagore probably benefiting hugely by the commodity prices across
all of the sectors and that shielded us a bit.
(15:06):
But look, the cities like christ Us, Wellington and Auckland
are still struggle.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
What would be your one piece of advice to Prime
Minister Lucks in an election, Ye're given that the vote
between the right is more or less going to be
spread between acts New Zealand. First, it seems a national oh.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Well, espresentially, I think you have to take your head
off to that. Here's a three way coalition that looks
like it's going to last the term. So that's a
reasonably good positive because that's the first I think the
second part of it is that you have to make
sure as the leading party that you put a stamp
on what the National Party is going to do in government,
(15:47):
because you've got to be careful that you don't lead
into the election looking like the tails being wagged by
the two minor parties. And that's going to be the
hard part.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Changes to the Alliance Group Chief executive Willi Visa is
stepping down from the role been an under eating twelve
months for Alliance overall.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yes, and look, I you know, Willie made a huge
contribution in the three years that he was the chief
executive and trying to turn the company around. While I
don't agree with the sort of outcome in terms of
the sale, the reality is doing Meat is probably the
best option they had in front of them. I think
that Willy has without any doubt, can leave knowing that
(16:30):
he had stayed with the company in whatever form you
may call it. But this is an indication of door
Meat's really going to start to ramp up in terms
of their ownership.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, that seems to be what I'm hearing around the traps.
What's happened has happened with the Lions. Now it's a
matter of just getting on with it and doing farming.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Absolutely, And you know, they've got to get they've got
to get back to the supply they had probably four years,
four or five years ago. They've got to make sure
they get confidence within farmistic apply them and that's that's,
you know, that's the hard job in front of them now.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
International unrest hangs over twenty twenty six. US President Donald
Trump doing what he's done with Venezuela. This question marks
as well regarding Columbia Greenland as well, which Denmark has
none too impressed about, as well as the rest of
the EU and Iran for goodness sake, over the past
couple of days. So as Bill Laurie used to say,
it's all happening.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Look, I think we thought twenty five was originally unsettled
in terms of that international politics. And look this. You know,
we're a trading nation. We export, you know, seventy percent
of what we produce and manufacturer and it and all
those sort of things, highly reliant reliant on the tourist numbers,
and so we are impacted hugely by this international prospect.
(17:51):
I think newsantourism ironically is benefiting as a place that's
safe to come and visit. I get the impression that
a lot of kiwis and the strains of avoiding going
through the US if they're transiting somewhere. So I think
we're going to see quite a bit of this. It's
the uncertainty that creates the difficulty and so on that basis,
(18:14):
I think, you know, both from commodity prices through to
how people are feeling, twenty six is going to be tough.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Do you see any positive ZI regatting this US stance
that can help in New Zealand?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Look, I think increasingly we are probably still a bit
of a favored nation, and you know we're seeing that
in a reduction of the tariff originally proposed across the sectors.
I think they had their capacity to export into the
US that we find but you know, you just need
to get you know, little least is becoming a for
(18:49):
the meat industries as an example, is a reasonably reliant
market with the decline in China, and so any well
it might be an Irn, it does field across the
the border, and that unsettling situation that could arise in
Iran will have some impact. I think that Europe still
feels very unsettled with the US in terms of their
(19:12):
relationship from NATO through to Ukraine, and so those things
will keep bubbling along, which just just creates that nervousness.
People don't buy forward in terms of wholesaling for product
to the extent they would have done three or four
years ago. So you just continue to have that.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Just finally, as well, Jief, forget your comment regarding these
beef tariffs. New zeal has avoided them, China's implemented them
on Australia and the likes, So that makes for interesting reading.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, look, without any doubt, you know all the good work.
Don't play foreign a fears some years ago, especially in
terms of getting a pre trade agreement with China, but
also just our international relationship across all ranger countries. This
is when it's in good stead for us. You know,
we've seen to be able to hold the line. And
(20:02):
on that basis, we're seeing is not a country because
of the size as much as anything, but we're not.
We're not somebody that's gonna sit the international water. So
that for that reason, I think that helps us tremendously
and make it long continued.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Jeff Grant, always appreciate your time on the Muster. Happy
landscaping this afternoon. Harry McCallum, Tiana Young Farmers joins us
next for our weekly round that regard to young farmers
(20:41):
as we do here on the Muster. Harry, good afternoon,
and welcome to the new year. And pretty good. Hells
things up in the basin.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Not too bad. Wendy overcast Nah, just yeah, he up
with wedding drafts and what today.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Look, it's all been happening on the farm, like you say,
the waning season. You're getting through it now, it's gone
pretty well.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, it's not too bad now the numbers of the year,
which is quite good for us considering the spring that
we had this year. Just another week one and yeah,
new conditions, good, go your way a few lems away.
Just be another season really, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Sounds like that middle bowl of porridge. Your feed levels
are about right.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Yeah, you're not too bad. Yep, a bit of a
bit of feed, he'd sort of poking up all around
the place. So going the care of something to left
under the winter. But everything's looking pretty good, sos prety sharp.
You're right.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
No, it's now, of course the regional for the regional
finals for the Attiger South and Young Farmers. That's happening
in Gore, being hosted by a tiny and well in
the next couple of weeks truth be known and you've
got your name forward and you're one of the finalists.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah yep, now winning competing in Clinton last year and
must have he must have answered the questions right, So
now looking forward today, well.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I think you're under yourself. You've probably done pretty dumb
well to get through like you have.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Yeah, that's good, good, good group of leads and ladies
and that and that top eight group which is awesome
to see.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
But as well, there's going to be sibling rivalry. Your
brother Max is involved too, as he was with yourself
in the missbell For competition that happened near the end
of last year. Now you managed to get through a
place there in that mess of night, so he might
be up for a bit of redemption in this you reckon.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Yeah, it's not really something to sort of go on
a bit. We sort of just want to leave that
last year. But oh, that's really cool that you're competing
against my brother and competition not that So no, really
looking forward today, is.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
He asking you for a few tips, because of course
you were saying off here just briefly before, mate, that
you're involved a couple of years ago. So what do
you tell them?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I'm probably asking him for tips because he was involved
last year, to be fair, it was too Yeah, yeah,
so oh it's always competitive, But that's looking forward to.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, that's hit me in a few weeks and gore,
so we'll be all over that too. Now, as far
as young Farmer's up there on the basin. That's pretty active.
What's been going on?
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I would have been up to last year. We had
a bit of a Christmas dove down in Blackmount and
the Baker's there with griggering Vick and it was good
to have a bit of a debrief there. And then
well it's been happening on a few of the young
farmers showed face down of the Pcago races and the
Thornberry Nightcare Young Farmer's Tent.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I don't really know.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I'm gonna find out tomorrow night what's sort of wintering
up there. And yeah, and other than that, we're going
to first meeting tomorrow night. We're going to hold out
at the dog Troll Club, just somewhere a bit different
than the pot luck, and sort of discussed the next
for what's the next three four months? We'll see for
us ay.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So what what do you envisaged the next three or
four months holding?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Well, we've got we've got a company people helping out
the speed shears. This Friday's wall shed, so that'll be
cool for young farmers to flooded. Bit of a bend
of the year. Got a Golden Standard competition on the
twenty third, it's night case the hold on it and
it's going to be a bulls and bowls night, but
of tweet and Sheese cdotheined evening and then yeah, I
(24:14):
think we're just going to take a dusty bunch of
krillers up to the regional final and go from there.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
That's the bunch of critters just.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Pretty much that's involved, anyone that's involved from family at
the moment. She's an unreal cricket line out there for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Oh you're really selling it, man, it'll give it to you.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
That's good, good, good good. It's a real good group
of people. So yeah, we haven't really changed changed numbers.
Two matches on the club. But in all the time
you're coming back, so must be doing something right in
the club.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah. Well you guys have been uping and running again
since you came back from hiatus a few years ago.
And just go over those numbers again. You're getting at
your at your meetings, Harry.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Yeah, So I think we kept going about twenty twenty two,
started at Bear carp and we're and there's teen twelve
for about and then yeah, people got a bit of
wind and yeah, I think we're sort of sitting around
that thirty. I think we're about twenty five to thirty
paid up, but we're sort of some meetings we're about
thirty thirty five. Han't quite cracked the four. Oh but no,
(25:16):
it's it's real positive as it's awesome for some of
these young fellows to come and show face and sort
of get a part of our club, which is quite
a community club as well. So yeah, it's gives everyone
a good excuse to get off farm essentially.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, and I like how you say it's a community
club too. So from your perspective, what do you bring
to the community.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Well, we try it. Well, we asked a lot. We've
asked a lot to help out with community events just around.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
So.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
We've been asked to help you out with the Don
Trials a couple of years ago, asked to help out
at the Mavor Explore. I think they're running again or
they are running again this year. That's the running race
to support the Narrow Primary School. Yeah, a few other things.
We've marsh with a few boat ramps at the at
the Labor Working Fishing Camp. We've got to ask to
(26:12):
be in a float for the Christmas too. That it
was gonna be a hard note because I know what's
sort of caliber of people we've got in their club. Yeah,
and also like not just the our community, the other
community as well, like obviously that yeah, that must be Alfa.
A few of us went down there and helped out
with that and all the proceeds so that went to
the Alpha Wole for a new kitchen. Just I think
(26:35):
we're definitely doing something positive, which is good. Don't worry,
we do make it up with a few niggertives as well.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, then you're sa cond tribute to the bad takings
around the area as well. Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Oh? Yeah, now I've definitely got to definitely got to
tell it keeps the dusty n Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
No, it's always good to cat chat with you guys
and see what's going on there, Harry, because there's a
lot of great things going on. But you also just
before we go as well, you guys enjoy picking up
rocks for club activities, don't you.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I don't think enjoyable with the right word. We don't
want to spend the money that we earn from it,
that's for sure, but it's it's a bit of a
tough one to get people too mind you. Our last
rock picking fundraiser, we excellingly had twenty.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It's a lot.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I had about eighteen people turn up with the sleezer
Head three trickers Gan three Yeah, three trickers Gon. So
I don't know. Yeah, I'm trying to talk about like
it's real.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Fun, but it's just you're picking up rocks.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
That was strictly character building.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, character building, like digging up a race for reading
and airs on the mate. But hey as well, before
you go, give a bit of a plug Tianni rugby.
You're after a couple of players, here's your chance.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah, okay, Rugby we're going to be playing dev two
this year, singing out the front rowers. But at the
same time, if you're back with a bit of carrying
a bit from Christmas, then yeah we're looking for those
as well. But now we're going to be a pretty
good team this year. And yeah we're going to start.
We having a barbecue this Friday the Rugby Club, just
a bit of a meet and greet with the new
(28:01):
coaches and the team players and yeah, now we're really
looking forward to the season, but definitely looking something like
the rest of New Zealand, just looking for those three
in the front, big lead, big chest for taking us through.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Good on your Harry, all the best for the read
for the disk, for the regionals that is, and we'll
catch up in due course. Always good to catch up.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
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of goal this stone. Welcome back to the muster. Now, well,
before we wrap up, this is going to be a
really interesting chat. Terry Collins is Principal policy advisor for
the AA. He's on the line and you may have
noticed fuel down here in the South is pretty cheap
compared to arguably a lot of the rest of the country.
(29:15):
We can talk about the South service stations, how they've
come into the mainstream pretty much over the past four
or five years, But what exactly is it about the
South that gives us these prices for fuels and what's
going to happen over the next year or so. Terry,
thanks for joining us on the muster.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
That's great and good to be here.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Firstly, why is Gore arguably a hotbed for fuel prices?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
One word competition? What's happened over the last few years.
A decade ago maybe two, we had something known as
the Gull effect, and that was a model, low cost
model with a pump, about a card reader, nobody on site,
and some lights and they had low overheads what basically
had of getting traction in the market. And then MPD
(29:58):
came along, Tomo came up, some of the big guys
like z Look rechange the logos as you go, VP
of Mobile and now doing other sites that are just
following it model. So what model is is they reduce
the costs as much as possible to deliver it to
you and they rely upon volume, small margin, big volume.
(30:18):
That creates competition because that's fighting with everybody in your
area for there to get my fill up when you
go to the service station. And they're doing that by
trying to off on the cheaper posts.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Because off the top of the head, we've got at
least five self service fuel stations and Gore two of
the big boys who are big players in there as
such as well. So this will pretty much be the
reason around that, I suppose very much.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
And everybody's copping the model. Turns out, funnily enough, we
all like buying chip Hill. You know, it's a fairly
homogeneous product. Doesn't really matter who makes it. It still
powers our car the same way. And so what you
can lie upon if you've got a similar standard of fuel,
nearly the big determinant is the price you pay for.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
So let's proposed merge of between gallon MPD for example,
if it goes through, they've got separate stations here in Gore.
Is that going to have any effect at all?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
The Commerce Commission will look at the locality of those stores.
There are a couple of round it. We've got one
and CV and Wellington when the two of them are together,
and what they'll try to do is just divest themselves
and perhaps one of them. That may be what they
call requirement is so that they don't have it and
immediately the same area. But potentially it makes common sense
(31:27):
is kind of merger. What happened was Goal was z
owned by an investment company that they had to sell it.
When Z bought Z was purchased by Ampol, which was
Celtic's Australia and if they hadn't sold the Goal, they
would have a fifty one percent in the market and
the Commerce Commission wasn't going to about it, so they
had to sell Goal. Investment Company brought it. They're in
(31:50):
the business level and making investments MPD. He has a
fifty year old self WHILEGN company with a long experience
of running petrol ones. So you've got a relatively management teams.
You've got all the logistics mainly in the south for
MPD and mainly in the north of Goal. You've got
timer oial services or the depoting and Timarua MPD, and
you've got the depoting and mount or for Goal. Also
(32:14):
when they sold Goal, they had a five year contract
to have well supplied to them from Ampole Australia. That's
halfway through that contract. So combining these two smaller companies
into a larger companies means they have more buying power
and the Singapore binaries so they can get cheaper fuel.
They'll have a lower overheads. Pictures of to use the
(32:34):
logistics and trucking and their storage units more efficiently and
hopefully all those savings that they're going to make gets
passed on to us for notice.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Terry, would you say there's still room in the market
for smaller players, independent players to come into the fuel game.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I think there's not a barrier to entry. I think
basically if you can secure your fuel source, there's actually
building and the resource consent for the service station. They're
not particularly difficult technologies there. It's a card reader, it's
the thousands, which we've been making for years and just
connittuing all and making it easy to use.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Regarding the price of fuel, is a geographic location that
effectively makes New Zealand to captive market, hence our pricing.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, what we find when we look at all the
analysis of the fuel is that we get put variances
price within regions and between regions, and really it just
comes down to that competition and what day of the
week will so you bought it. So you can talk
about an average price, we really no such thing because
they very up and down. But if you added them
all up, you would get an average. What the companies
do on certain days of the week, they offer good
(33:36):
discounts and gulets on tuesdays, and so what you tend
to find is that Monday, Tuesday cheap fuel, Tuesday Wednesday
chup fuel. But then the prices wouldn't they go up,
that they go back to the original level over the weekend,
because we know that we've got the weekend off, we
might from the vote up and take the car out,
do all those other things. So they know that market,
(33:56):
that sustainable volume is going to be there over the days.
It's only those other quieter days in the beginning of
the week they offer a good discount, so you want
to fill up the pace to fill up look around
on those ULIE parts of the week, around Tuesday, around Tuesday,
those kinds of days, and they usually the best price office.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
As far as the conflicts that are occurrying around the world,
how much does that impact on air pricing.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It can. We saw it was the Russian Ukrainian one,
but remember Russia was the third largest oil producer at
the time, and so that we had to begin pack.
We didn't see the same with this master attack on
Israel because neither was a oil producer. The current issue
around Venezuela. Venezuela has got the world's largest oil reserves
but they can't really turn on production that their production
(34:39):
has been declined in about a third of what they
did a decade ago. They put out less in a
million barrels a day, and rural demand right now is
about one hundred and two millions, so they were an
insignificant player. The last couple of days, I've seen the
price of international oil go up because of the chest
beating from Trump. With Iran around as an oil supplier,
and so the kind of the gambling in the market,
(35:00):
so to speak. I've just been pricing in a little
bit of risk around that. We've got plenty of oil
out there in the world. There's no shortage of it,
and so these prices rarely, we hope, and particularly in
the swast quarter of twenty twenty six, will be about
what they are here.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
They shouldn't go up, so it should stay pretty relative
for where we are. Because considering what's happened with Venezuela
and Donald Trump saying he's taking over the oil reserves
and the likes for the interim anyway, we're not going
to see much of a rebound of markets around the
world because that was a big concern.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
No, not particularly look at the other thing about that Venezuela.
That's what's known as heavy and seer, so it's got
a lot of solt for in it, and you taxa
specialized refinery to crack it. They have those refineries a
bit fined them around Louisiana and Texas. The US have
optimized the ones so it will be handy and benefit globally.
(35:54):
We'll do globally. Would be had a bit of a
tight supplier around diesel. Hopefully that will put more diesel
on the market and drop the processes of a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
As far as Marsden Point refinery closing, what impact has
that had.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It's had done.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Really what did?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
It's took away some of our security of supply, But
we were never refining New Zealand. Will we produce a
world which is called light and sweet. It's good for
making gasoline and it doesn't have much sulfur, which makes
it a really handy fuel. And we were seeing it
to refineries in Australia, not to Marsden Point because Marsden
Point was optimized to refine a heavier type of crude.
(36:32):
Now all we're doing is going up to Singapore, Korean.
None of the Asian refineries and saying here's the specification
of our fuel. Who can give you the best price?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
So regarding the fuel that's supplied by the companies is
not a lot of you know, they talk about the
quality of the fuel certain players being better than others.
Is that just a myth?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah? Look, if there's a little is about two cents
libert lest some two cents called the engine oil monetary
levy and that goes towards trading standard. I used to
be a trading standards officer, so I know this one
for many years. And they go out and they sample
the fuel, and every sample I've seen so far that
the publicly disclosed usually means the octane level of the
(37:12):
fuel is greater than what it's been disclosed.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Now, underesting insight there, Terry. Thanks for your time, And
like we say, you just got to go into your
due diligence and find out when these fuel the prices occur,
because like you say, the starting near the end of
the week is when you're going to find them, right.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, And I'll just get the right fuel for the car.
And you've got a high compression bodyn so it tastes
used to sleep because you need it for the high compression,
so yeah, vehicle does it knock. Other than that, there's
not a lot of calorphic values, a lot of energy,
but difference between the two it's only around what your
compression oates the car is what fuel you should be using.
The soupers are a bit cleaner, they've got a detergent
in it, so they'll run it, but realistically the standards
(37:48):
all the same. The fuel is pretty much the same.
And unless you've got a classic car which fifty sixty
years old or something where you might need to run
an added because of the valve steams they used to
put lead in petrol lubricate your build. That's a bit
the only thing to worry about.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
There's plenty of those vehicles running around. Gord Terry Collins,
AA Principal Policy Advisor, Thanks very much for your time
on the muster.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Thanks Avy, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
That de nights gotta be a good night. That to night's.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Gotta be a good night.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
This is the Muster on Hakanui. Jacob Duffy black Caps
Bowl are about to head over to India for a
few months. That's the truth. But of the truth snow
and he's got the Black Caps t twenty World Cup
campaign and then the OPL following Not long after. He's
had a bit of a breakover summer and joins us
once again for a chat. Jacob, good afternoon today. Here
(38:46):
you going, Yeah, pretty good. We'd just like to sort
the weather out. I mean you're a cricketer. You know
what it's like when you're board there waiting for the
sun to come out.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Yeah, crets a funny on it. Sometimes you want to
end sometimes as the worst trainers. Don't know if you
saw the game and you say we had this mizzly
crap that just hang around. We're on and off and
deciding what to do. So either pissed down or the sunshine,
that makes how.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I like it?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
So what's it like though? If you're a bowler and
the weather's doing what it does and it's not playing
ball as such? Does it? Does it just gus frustrating?
You just want the umpires to make a call one
way or the other so you can just get on
with stuff.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Yeah, it is, especially you know, like the warming up
warming down. We had a lot of that at the
start at the well in the springtime for October November,
so that Australia England series has a lot on off
and just it's no, it's not good for anyone like
you lose your rhythm as a bowl though the betters
don't like it. It's just frustrating. But that's the weather, mate.
I know you're on a farming show, so I think
(39:42):
you probably talk weather quite a bit. But yeah, it's just, yeah,
something you can't control the crackit, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, it's fair to say Weather's a bit of a
conversation started down here mate. Now we talk about the
stelly year you had last season, especially your breakout season
with the black Caps as such, especially in the Test arena.
Did you managed to get a bit of a rest
over summer because you must have been sick of the
side of a red ball.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
The whole year really, there was no real gaps in
the calendar. So after that test serious sort of Rob
just said you just go chill for a little bit,
which was quite nice. So the boys left for the
twenty ODII series on. I think it was the fourth
of January, so I've been lucky enough to have I
got that series off, which you know, I never thought
I'd be choosing to rest, you know, International cricket. But
(40:29):
I guess just without how everything is going and the
time away I got coming up, it just kind of
made sense. So have that time off and just you know,
I had a Christmas at home, which for a cricket
is pretty radic at that time. Just chilling my family,
which was cool. And then yeah, just gear enough and
spend some time with the wife and now off today
and read to go again for a big shift over
an India.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
And of course you got to play a couple of
games for your beloved vaults.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Yeah, yeah, it was cool. There was more. Yeah, it
was just I feel like I'd get rusty quite quick,
so just to blow some cob web was out and
get the feel for you know, twenty twenty again. So
you're boling your change ups in New Yorker's which obviously
after a month of test cricket haven't had much to do,
haven't had been able to do much of that, So
just to get a bit of game, bit of game time,
(41:11):
and and then hopefully had a ground running in India
in a few days one.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Now, of course, the vaults are the vaults now, not
the Otago vaults as they have been for white form
White bull cricket. That is, you are one of the
main drivers for this, along the log and Savory and
the Light, so you'll be pretty chaffed with the outcome
than the change the name.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Yeah, man, I'm super proud of that. I guess there's
the conversation for South of that's going up down there,
and you know you're planning for the arch nemesis to
Tago teams the pinnacle of the area, which yeah, I
still don't quite sit well for me and a few
of the other kids down there. I know that for sure.
So it is it's a starting point, I guess. I
guess there's only the twenty twenty teams dropped the Targo
(41:50):
tag down to the vaults, and yeah, even that I
don't think capsulates what the region represents. I guess my
my end goal would be to like maybe a Southern
or something for across the board in terms of you know,
your age group cricket. You've got your underservent teams. You're
under nineteens girls and boys growing up in South and
trying to make the Southern team instead of the Ottager teams.
So that's my pipe dream and that's my that's where
(42:13):
I want the listening to get to But I guess
it's one step at a time and it's a starting
point that I guess the associations realize.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Realized.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
You know, the Otago things a thing I guess for
Southenders it.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Is a big thing to have a name change, to suppose,
and you think of the history that goes back in time.
But I mean you look at the Highlanders and Super
Regular franchises and such. To get more engagement with the franchises,
that's why they did it. So arguably the case is
there for the Vaults. If you're going through to Dunedin,
you want to be part of a team that encumbents
as a year. You're not just the province right exactly.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
I know the Hahanders did it. Yeah a few years
back their song and everything changed, But you're right around
the history and tradition cricket obviously goes along a lot
further back than the Hinds compted, So you know there's
I guess when the when the Attago first class team
first started playing, I think a southing didn't even exist
at the time, so that actually was the Otago region.
(43:06):
So there is history and you know there's talks about
maybe the itager. The first class team remains a Targo,
but there everything else changes to Southern or whatever it
might be. I guess we're open to the suggestions and ideas,
but like I said, it's a starting point, so we'll
go from there and figured it out as we go,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
So as far as preparing to go over to India,
And how long did you actually get off about touching
a cricket battle ball.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
That's the thing as a.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Bowler, you can't stop. So even though you know I
had had a break, I was still bowling through that
break and albeit just probably a little bit half ast
if monus. So just you know, taking a ball by
the lads are rough and central Targo for the twenty twenty.
So when it popped onto a couple of training for
beers and just didn't do it, you know it didn't
take it too seriously. Just keep the body ticking over,
(43:53):
you know, bowling loads, and I'm sure you've heard about
injuries and stuff that's happened in the in the Black
Kip's environments. The bowling loads are a hot topic at
the moment. Even if you get through a truck kind
of work you've still got to set sort of keep
ticking over, so you can't exactly go cold turkey. So
I sort of bowling once or tice a week. And
S and C trainer also likes a seek view that
(44:13):
time is a nice wee window to get some listening
and running into. So it was a working hole. They
put it that way.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
No backyard cricket through the Christmas season.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
They wore the.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Actually, yeah, there was the brothers and nephews and nieces
chand to drag us out there.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
So we did.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
That's always good fund down on Christmas Day out in
the back lall and that was yeah, that was good,
fun enough and fortually, well.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Let's be honest, you're able to bring the check because
you can, Okay.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
So but through brothers they handing up. Yeah, yeah, they
brought they brought some good.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Y to it.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Okay. So you're going to India for quite a while,
truth to be known, how do you prepare for something
like that? It was almost a case into the unknown,
I suppose.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
Yeah, yeah, it is a little but we're going some
through got five twenty twenties before the World Cup, and
they're all on pretty random places that I'll be Honest,
I've never heard before, so I've got no idea what
we're walking into in that, Regardo. I know it'll be India,
so it won't be too seen the friendly But yeah,
I've played a couple of games with the Vaults obviously,
which is good just to buy some cobbles out and
(45:16):
get a bit of that game time back and feel
the rhythm again. Any I guess it's a twenty twenty series,
but I guess there's an element of sort of gearing
up to the World Cup, which is the main goal.
So I got five internationals to compete and try a win.
But I guess in the back of your head we're
sort of preparing and getting ready for a World Cup.
(45:36):
So in India against India, you can't get a bit
of prepped that.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
When I thought, yeah, and Darryl Mitchell getting there earnings
the other day, do you get it to your feet
when you're watching the black Caps on Telly at the
moment considering you're part of the setup?
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Definitely? Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Sitting there home with my wife the other day and
obviously happy to be home and she's happy to hit
me there, But the little part of me it feels
like they're missing out. You know, the boys are steaming
and falling over in India and some cool crowds and
stuff that looked like So, yeah, it doesn't feel right.
I guess I had the option to be there and
not to be there, and to choose not to be
(46:09):
I I didn't. Yeah, it's a funny one. Like I
guess I've never thought that situation would occur to me,
But I guess with what's coming out that sort of
just mean and WhatsApp and it sort of just made sense.
So but there's definitely a part of me sat there
and man, I wish I.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Was there now going over to India, Shane Warn infamously
once got to heave a baked beans shipped over there
because he wasn't a fan of the calinary delights locally.
How are you going to go with for the food
situation because it is different to what will be used
to being Westerners obviously, let's be honest.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Yeah, I've been here a few times now and you
can sort of get what you want to be fear
the foods. It's amazing food experiences over there. I Ratch
and Revenge seems to have a lot of contacts, so
I think we get looked after pretty well, and a
lot of the places that he's been to before in
their account and stuff. So that's always fun to get
experience and try some of that stuff. But I have
also you know where it's really or Pakistan or India.
(47:01):
I do it seemed to get sick every time, so
I'm sure there'll be one time of the next four
months I'll be I'll be hugging a toilet bowl. But yeah,
I don't know. You you've got to You've got to
take the good of the beat, I guess, because there
are some bloody good stuff there too.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
It's not I'll have the strangers dream. Jacob Duffy, Bear
of the black Caps, wrapping up the best of the muster.
Enjoy the weekend if you're playing a bit of sport,
hopefully the way that plays ball. We'll see what mother
nature does over the next forty eight hours. And so
my name is Andy Bwert. See you Monday, as
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