January 11, 2026 • 7 mins
Andrew Welsh of Tefrom Genetics catches up for a chat.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
This is the muster on Hakynui Andrew welsh Our Twin
Farms in Nenix, a home of Tiff from sponsors of
the five day forecast here on Hockanue Radio joins us
once again. Snow, good afternoon and welcome to the new year.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, afternoon the same to you. Andy. It's a bit
of a breezy afternoon out here in the Wymere Valley again.
Sort of rain's been threatening around but not really coming
to much as of you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, we were talking before, just briefly about the situation
around the weather. So where you're based there at the
Waymere Valley, you're after a good drop.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, it was sort of just a wee isolated pocket there.
We're still nice and green, but there's just not the
bulk of feed you sort of. Yeah, the old lambs
are getting moved around on a bit of scenery, which
they're doing really well on at this stage. But it's
a fine line between them. Yeah, running out of that
tucker in front.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Of them close to a green drought, would you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Say it's on that borderline. Yeah, Like we're probably for
a normal January. We're probably about the right spot. It's
just that the lead in yeah, into Christmas. We never
had that big flush of feed in November early December
to get any bailage or hay or anything like that
made for winter supplements. So that's just yah chewing away
(01:24):
in the back of your mind at the moment that
that could be an issue going forward if we do
go into a normal Yeah, January, February March being drawer months, and.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
That's the case of the unknown.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I suppose midway through January snow as you look forward,
like you just talked about and just trying to figure
out what you're going to get for Rail four, it
might be few and far between, or it might be
totally different scenario.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You're just trying to farm to it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Right, Yeah, that's right, that's all you can do. Andy. Yeah,
we look pretty closely at the weather forecast nowadays that
you get all excited. You look sort of three or
four days out and you see there might be twenty
meals coming and Yeah, at the moment, it's just been
petering and going around us. But that's part of the
joys of farming and one of the challenges we look
forward to. Stock are doing really well at the moment.
We've just finished doing a big week last week on
(02:09):
shearing lambs. So we've got all the feathers off them
now and this week we'll push on and do a
bit of drinching and they're all due for their second
five and one, so yeah, a few jobs on the go.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Do you normally see your lambs around now?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, we have for the last couple of years. We've
done it and it seems to work really well. Seem
to get a fine spell of weather now and they
recover really well. Push on and you get the premiums
at the works and that for heaving them sean now
they don't really want the wool on them there, so yeah,
it certainly pays for getting it off.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Did you crutch your lambs pre Christmas?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
No? No, we don't crutch anything. Or we did running
through and just caught out a hand for dirty one
before they went up to the shears. They want to
crutch and costs there. The lambs are nice and clean
at this early stage, and yeah, they seem to keep
them right.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So the lambs are getting away to the work, So
you're happy with your weights.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, we've been averaging just over nineteen's at the moment.
Were actually skim ween the hill they killed twenty ones
off the hill and we put everything else strengths and
we put them back on mum. So it's Wednesday's job
is to get them all down. And they're looking fantastic
as well. There hasn't been an abundance of feed, and
the hill's very short. It's just at that sweet stage.
(03:22):
I think that we might have just timed it perfect.
But we certainly need to start and unload some moles
because it's drawing off up there flat out at the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, it's just like you say, the good weights to
go with good prices.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yes, exactly, and it's great to see the schedule busy holding. Yeah,
so I see lambs though at that teen eighty and
mutton actually went up before Christmas, which is pretty much
unheard of. I don't think I've ever seen mutton go
up before Christmas.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I don't think we've ever seen prices like this full
stop though.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
No, that's right, But to be fair, like we needed andy,
there's been some tough years out there for sheet and beef,
so yeah, these prices need to hang around for quite
a few years hopefully.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, it's the yon farm inflation and much is the kaker.
I supposed know, and you just wind over the next
couple of seasons a happy medium and these prices so
in just so we're not going to see mess of fluctuations,
I suppose, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Exactly, yep, but are certainly going forward. He was actually
having a discussion about some some grain prices and things
where that's going to sit next year, and yeah, my
theory is there expenses haven't come down, so yeah, just
I know the dairy payot's looking a little bit shaky,
but their expenses haven't gone down. So I certainly won't
be signing anything that's under under the last year's prices.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Have you got confidence in the great industry?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Absolutely, yeah, it is. It is quite good Andy, Yeah,
Well for us, it's given us a bit of diversity
and needs their workload a bit and it is one
of those sort of you've got to be in the
right area to be able to grow it. Yeah, So
going forward, I think it should be quite good. But
that that is a backup. I've got my sleeve, and
in the back of my mind, I'm thinking that we
might end up whole cropping some of the area that
(04:57):
we're going to harvest for balley, So do have buffers
there and leave us that we can pull.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So he's been sharing on the go and the likes,
what do you find you're doing this afternoon?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
What's happening?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We've just loaded out a loaded deer. I've gone out
as well, so yeah, I could have some of those
tided up, some of the stags that weren't performing, and
the older boys and your last handful of spikers that
we had on are all gone now, so it's freeing
us up. Because we're only two months away we'll be
looking at weaning the other fauns bringing them down, So
need doneload a few.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Miles Venison's schedule holding true?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, yep, No, it's still looking pretty good at the
moment too, which is very good. It's only the velvet
that hasn't really performed. And I see all the velveting
sales are going on at the moment, so I haven't
followed any of those yet to see how they've gone,
but that'll be interesting to see where they sit.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, pretty much, that's just the way velveting has been unfortunately,
as we've documented towards the end of last year. So
what's your primary focus seeing over the next three to
four weeks. Is it more or less about efficiency in
your lambs and getting the weights up?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It is, yep. Push those lambs. Yeah, we're moving them
around every two days. Just keep them moving, keep them
growing as fast as we can, because obviously you have
sort of in the back of your mind, you've got
dates that you want to have certain numbers gone by,
and the weight's just an aided bonus. So the more
that we can push now give us the be ability
to either push weights higher or get more lambs away earlier.
(06:23):
So that's the key, and that's why we put these
other ones, all the hill ones back on Mum. It'll
be interesting to see how they go. They might not
yield just quite as good with Mum's probably eased up
for milking ability boy now, but they look fantastic and
they'll be heavier weights no matter what we do with
them than if we win them earlier.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, certainly a lot of positives going on in the
red meat set to snow how we'll leave it there.
Twin found Genetics a home of tiff from you other
sponsors of the five day Forecast here on Hawkinnui, and
we always appreciate catching up with you guys.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Good as go with Indy and hopefully everyone's had a
great breakaway over New Year.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Laugh out loud with AG Proud because life on the
land can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Brought to us by Sheerwell Data working to help the
livestock farmer.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Cannon balls used to be stored to aboard the ship
and piles on a brass frame or a tree called
a monkey, and very cold weather the brass would contract
spilling the cannon bulls. Hence very cold weather is cold
enough to freeze the bulls off a brass monkey, supposedly.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Anyway, that's us over and done with Day one, Done
and dusted, im Andy Muir. This has been the muster
on Hokanui thanks to Peter's genetics. Enjoy the afternoon podcast
going up shortly see it tomorrow one o'clock
This is the muster on Hakynui Andrew welsh Our Twin
Farms in Nenix, a home of Tiff from sponsors of
the five day forecast here on Hockanue Radio joins us
once again. Snow, good afternoon and welcome to the new year.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, afternoon the same to you. Andy. It's a bit
of a breezy afternoon out here in the Wymere Valley again.
Sort of rain's been threatening around but not really coming
to much as of you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, we were talking before, just briefly about the situation
around the weather. So where you're based there at the
Waymere Valley, you're after a good drop.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, it was sort of just a wee isolated pocket there.
We're still nice and green, but there's just not the
bulk of feed you sort of. Yeah, the old lambs
are getting moved around on a bit of scenery, which
they're doing really well on at this stage. But it's
a fine line between them. Yeah, running out of that
tucker in front.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Of them close to a green drought, would you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Say it's on that borderline. Yeah, Like we're probably for
a normal January. We're probably about the right spot. It's
just that the lead in yeah, into Christmas. We never
had that big flush of feed in November early December
to get any bailage or hay or anything like that
made for winter supplements. So that's just yah chewing away
(01:24):
in the back of your mind at the moment that
that could be an issue going forward if we do
go into a normal Yeah, January, February March being drawer months, and.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
That's the case of the unknown.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I suppose midway through January snow as you look forward,
like you just talked about and just trying to figure
out what you're going to get for Rail four, it
might be few and far between, or it might be
totally different scenario.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You're just trying to farm to it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Right, Yeah, that's right, that's all you can do. Andy. Yeah,
we look pretty closely at the weather forecast nowadays that
you get all excited. You look sort of three or
four days out and you see there might be twenty
meals coming and Yeah, at the moment, it's just been
petering and going around us. But that's part of the
joys of farming and one of the challenges we look
forward to. Stock are doing really well at the moment.
We've just finished doing a big week last week on
(02:09):
shearing lambs. So we've got all the feathers off them
now and this week we'll push on and do a
bit of drinching and they're all due for their second
five and one, so yeah, a few jobs on the go.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Do you normally see your lambs around now?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, we have for the last couple of years. We've
done it and it seems to work really well. Seem
to get a fine spell of weather now and they
recover really well. Push on and you get the premiums
at the works and that for heaving them sean now
they don't really want the wool on them there, so yeah,
it certainly pays for getting it off.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Did you crutch your lambs pre Christmas?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
No? No, we don't crutch anything. Or we did running
through and just caught out a hand for dirty one
before they went up to the shears. They want to
crutch and costs there. The lambs are nice and clean
at this early stage, and yeah, they seem to keep
them right.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So the lambs are getting away to the work, So
you're happy with your weights.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, we've been averaging just over nineteen's at the moment.
Were actually skim ween the hill they killed twenty ones
off the hill and we put everything else strengths and
we put them back on mum. So it's Wednesday's job
is to get them all down. And they're looking fantastic
as well. There hasn't been an abundance of feed, and
the hill's very short. It's just at that sweet stage.
(03:22):
I think that we might have just timed it perfect.
But we certainly need to start and unload some moles
because it's drawing off up there flat out at the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, it's just like you say, the good weights to
go with good prices.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yes, exactly, and it's great to see the schedule busy holding. Yeah,
so I see lambs though at that teen eighty and
mutton actually went up before Christmas, which is pretty much
unheard of. I don't think I've ever seen mutton go
up before Christmas.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I don't think we've ever seen prices like this full
stop though.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
No, that's right, But to be fair, like we needed andy,
there's been some tough years out there for sheet and beef,
so yeah, these prices need to hang around for quite
a few years hopefully.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, it's the yon farm inflation and much is the kaker.
I supposed know, and you just wind over the next
couple of seasons a happy medium and these prices so
in just so we're not going to see mess of fluctuations,
I suppose, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Exactly, yep, but are certainly going forward. He was actually
having a discussion about some some grain prices and things
where that's going to sit next year, and yeah, my
theory is there expenses haven't come down, so yeah, just
I know the dairy payot's looking a little bit shaky,
but their expenses haven't gone down. So I certainly won't
be signing anything that's under under the last year's prices.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Have you got confidence in the great industry?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Absolutely, yeah, it is. It is quite good Andy, Yeah,
Well for us, it's given us a bit of diversity
and needs their workload a bit and it is one
of those sort of you've got to be in the
right area to be able to grow it. Yeah, So
going forward, I think it should be quite good. But
that that is a backup. I've got my sleeve, and
in the back of my mind, I'm thinking that we
might end up whole cropping some of the area that
(04:57):
we're going to harvest for balley, So do have buffers
there and leave us that we can pull.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So he's been sharing on the go and the likes,
what do you find you're doing this afternoon?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
What's happening?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We've just loaded out a loaded deer. I've gone out
as well, so yeah, I could have some of those
tided up, some of the stags that weren't performing, and
the older boys and your last handful of spikers that
we had on are all gone now, so it's freeing
us up. Because we're only two months away we'll be
looking at weaning the other fauns bringing them down, So
need doneload a few.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Miles Venison's schedule holding true?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, yep, No, it's still looking pretty good at the
moment too, which is very good. It's only the velvet
that hasn't really performed. And I see all the velveting
sales are going on at the moment, so I haven't
followed any of those yet to see how they've gone,
but that'll be interesting to see where they sit.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, pretty much, that's just the way velveting has been unfortunately,
as we've documented towards the end of last year. So
what's your primary focus seeing over the next three to
four weeks. Is it more or less about efficiency in
your lambs and getting the weights up?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It is, yep. Push those lambs. Yeah, we're moving them
around every two days. Just keep them moving, keep them
growing as fast as we can, because obviously you have
sort of in the back of your mind, you've got
dates that you want to have certain numbers gone by,
and the weight's just an aided bonus. So the more
that we can push now give us the be ability
to either push weights higher or get more lambs away earlier.
(06:23):
So that's the key, and that's why we put these
other ones, all the hill ones back on Mum. It'll
be interesting to see how they go. They might not
yield just quite as good with Mum's probably eased up
for milking ability boy now, but they look fantastic and
they'll be heavier weights no matter what we do with
them than if we win them earlier.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, certainly a lot of positives going on in the
red meat set to snow how we'll leave it there.
Twin found Genetics a home of tiff from you other
sponsors of the five day Forecast here on Hawkinnui, and
we always appreciate catching up with you guys.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Good as go with Indy and hopefully everyone's had a
great breakaway over New Year.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Laugh out loud with AG Proud because life on the
land can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Brought to us by Sheerwell Data working to help the
livestock farmer.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Cannon balls used to be stored to aboard the ship
and piles on a brass frame or a tree called
a monkey, and very cold weather the brass would contract
spilling the cannon bulls. Hence very cold weather is cold
enough to freeze the bulls off a brass monkey, supposedly.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Anyway, that's us over and done with Day one, Done
and dusted, im Andy Muir. This has been the muster
on Hokanui thanks to Peter's genetics. Enjoy the afternoon podcast
going up shortly see it tomorrow one o'clock
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