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Andy Muir talks to Jason Herrick, Nigel Woodhead, Tori Tremaine, Grant McMaster, Josh Willis and Sam Riley.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Good afternoon and welcome to the Muster on Hakanui. My
name is Andy Muher. You're listening to the Muster of
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Wednesday shells of breezy soal westerly seven and fifteen. Thursday
afternoon showers with breezing or westerly's ten and nineteen. Friday
scattered thunderstorms, yikes with breezing or westerly eight and twenty four,

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and Saturday afternoon showers of light weterlys eleven and twenty five.
So Temperatures ahead Clinton thirteen point eight, Harriet twelve point four,
Northern South and thirteen point one, Riverton thirteen point nine,
t on Ow fourteen point three, tallor Row thirteen point six,
Winton thirteen point one, at Woodland's twelve point six. Well
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we start the owl with Jason Herrick, he's president of

(02:18):
Southland Federated Farmers. Quite a few things have been on
the table since we spoke to Jason Lass so we
have a good chin wag. Nigel wardhead Farming in South
Otago between bout Cluther and Milton after the big shout
that occurred it his place last Thursday. Housing's looking on
the ranch grant disaster McMaster at Close Friends Station. The

(02:39):
tailing's over and done with, see how that's still panned out.
Tory Tremaine from Bannerman Crookshank Pride to the Lawyers is on
the program, and Josh Willis from Tiana Young Farmers aka
Miss balf for twenty twenty five has a chat Sam
Riley from PGG Rights and gives a rundown on the
stock sale report from Marville. And then we start the

(02:59):
y hour with Jason Hereck this is a muster room
til two o'clock thanks to Peter's geninis.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Take it on.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Jason Herick as president of south In Federated Farmers and
we catch up once again. Good afternoon, Jase. We haven't
spoken for a while. Hell's things.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, good afternoon, a year living the dream. You know
that this good old southern weather's starting to deliver some
good results at the end of spring, beginning of summer.
But no, I've been galivanting around the country, to be honest,
and having a chat with a lot of people, so
I don't really enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I'll pull you up on that weather talk straight away.
People have fires that last, and what for Pete's sake?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Really, yeah, oh well, I can't say I'll have my
fire on, to be.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Honest, we've picked up our fire and we've already for center.
I'll just put that out there.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Hey, look, we've headed in the past too, right where
we've litten the fires in the first week of December before,
and don't forget some of our largest snow dumps we've
had has been in that November period as well. The
weather is the weather, and you just take it one
day at a time and deal with it as it comes.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
From a federative farmers perspective. Over the past three or
four weeks, Jase has been quite a bit going on.
We'll acknowledge the weather events of coming up six weeks
ago and trees still down a lot of places. You
see it every week, especially when I went through to
Nudge what Heads at South Totago last week. It's unbelievable
the scenes that were seeing. What's the story from what

(04:37):
you're hearing?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, same deal. So I've been on a few farms
and talked to quite a few farmers and you know,
there's still a lot of trees down there and still
have a lot of issues, and people still don't know
where to start. But it's going to take a lot
of a long time to clean a lot of it
up because you know, we're at that time of year
where landing is coming to an end for a lot
of the high country, tailing still happening in other areas,

(04:59):
and you got making going on for dairy farmers, and
obviously the arable boys are in full swing getting all
the spring and stuff done. So cleaning up trees his
secondary job at this point in time.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
So people have menaged in the gate the last month. Okay,
you'll things considered, would you say, oh?

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Like southernd resilience is pretty pretty high man like. Seriously,
Southern people they all get around one another and look
after one another. And to be honest, that the confidence
is still pretty high out there.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, you look at sold temperatures and like everything's above
twelve degrees as you'd expect for the first week of December.
But it's certainly been another tailing spring.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I definitely like the difference between the spring and last
is last spring it was wet right across Southend, where
it's been quite spread like this year in certain areas.
So northern South has been pretty good wet wise, whereas
the lower coast has been hit again, you know, with
a lot of wetness, So you know, at least it's
spread about and everyone has different different issues with the weather,

(05:59):
whereas last year it was right across the board and
you know, the whole community was affected. So you know,
that's the difference between one year to the next, and
again it'll be different again next year.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Now council changes the way that we do were local
democracy down here. You're all for this occurring. The government's
made noises about this happening over the next couple of years.
Are you entirely happy of what they've proposed?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Not fully happy with what they're proposing. Definitely like the talk,
and to be honest, we've been leading it down here
in South and as well. Rob Scott put a proposal
on the table and you know it's not one hundred
percent you know, what we would like, but it's definitely
in the in the same realms and around the amalgamation
of councils and having two unitaries, one for the city

(06:42):
one for the role. But I definitely didn't like what
the government announced of getting rid of our councilors around
the regional council table in the next eighteen months and
replacing them with the mayors. Not for that, because while
we've still got regional council operating, we need to make
sure we've got good representation around that table. And to
be honest, you know, not all of them as are
royally focused either, So you know, it wasn't happy with

(07:04):
that announcement and I honestly think that the government jumped
a gun on that and they released it at the
wrong time. They probably should have put the changes out
in the RMA first what they're proposing there before they
went down this road, so people had a little bit
more clarity on what's being proposed. And at the moment
everyone's sitting in Limba not knowing whose job is going
to be what.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
But remembering Jaceban advocate for change as far as the
local councils, is it a case would be careful what
you wish for?

Speaker 3 (07:31):
No, No, definitely not. So we do need change because
we can't carry on in the same path right because
the system is broken, extremely broken, and if we carry
it on the same trajectory, who will be able to
afford to pay rates by twenty thirty five, you know,
So things definitely need to change and if nothing changes,
nothing changes. So definitely for the change of the councils.

(07:52):
But it needs to be done right, and I think
we've got the opportunity in Southland here to lead from
the front and you know, and make sure we do
it right.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Rates phrases, well, this is all well and good in theory,
but they'll just be add ons anywhere and even where
else unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, exactly, so, I mean you could almost use that
phrase by keeper what you wish for there, but all
for rates definitely decreasing because to be honest, it's a
lot of the rate increases for unnecessary spending. And when
you see all these little like to have projects that
councils put out there instead of concentrating on the core

(08:29):
core business and around infrastructure and doing what they're what
they're set up to do. They tend to spend money
on stupid stuff. So definitely it'll it'll put a big
spotlight on on those unnecessary expenditures because then the councils
are going to have to really rain down in their
spending and really and decide what's important.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Because James Meger on the show yesterday talking about changes
to the ARI may will become a de fruition and
then we'll see things start to happen.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
But are you convinced, not fully convinced, like I mean yet,
we need definitely a new roma and we do need
changes in there and we'll just wait to see where
that lands and then we can push back on what's
not good enough from there and then we'll go We'll
go through the consultation period like there is a process
to go through and it's going to take some time
to land and they reckon to implement the whole ma.

(09:20):
It could take two to three years.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Now as far as the Watonal Lagoon, what's the latest there?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
So the decision landed on the Watuna where a consent
was granted, and to be honest, the farmers' voices were
not listening to whatsoever, nothing coming up in that. So
all fifty three conditions that landed in that consent, which
is owned by es DOC and EWE pretty much unworkable,
and you get to the point where the lagoon will

(09:46):
never be opened because they wouldn't be able to meet
all conditions to open. So we have put an appeal
in and appealed to the full consent, all fifty three conditions,
and we'll work forward with the three parties, hopefully go
into mediation first, but if we end up having to
go to court, then that's where we have to go.
We've got to get a good outcome for the locals

(10:07):
in the wide turn of lagoon, because as it currently stands,
they haven't got any outcome whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
But realistically, how likely are you to get a positive
outcome out of something like that if you do happen to.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Go to court a lot that the dialogue within the
Council at the moment is pretty good with us and
they agreeing with our concerns, so they're very very keen
to sit down at the table and talk about things
and go to mediation. So we'll start that process first
and then we'll move forward from there and we won't

(10:39):
be doing anything until after the second of February is
the date I've been given, and then we'll head into
next year and go through mediation and as it currently stands,
while it's while it's all happening, we just carry on
as we are where environments south and we'll have the
right to open the lagoon under emergency powers of need dialogue.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
It's almost like the word of the year for fear
iterated farmers. Jason. Now we talk about this with other organizations,
but then we look at the situation with South of
Fishing Game. We go back twelve months and it was
not a very it wasn't a good situation. It all
this be fair regarding access to riverways and the likes,
But this year is a totally different situation.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
So obviously there's been some huge in arounds and huge
games there where Fishing Game is concerned, and a lot
of personnel changes. So communication has been pretty good from
Fishing Game and fairly positive and sort of working in
the right direction. And we have got a meeting coming
up with them soon, just they haven't quite determined a
time and date for that yet, but we want to

(11:41):
talk about duck numbers coming into next year and how
we can get farmers issued permits for duck control, especially
through that crop establishment phase, and making sure that they
have the ability to cut off some ducks if need be.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
So, a lot of bridges have been mended.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
To coin a phrase, I'll say bridges have been put together. Okay,
I won't say they've been fully mended, but definitely we've
had a few band aids put on, and like I said,
conversations and it's a work in progress, but we'll get there.
I'm positive of that. And because dialok is actually open

(12:17):
now and the discussions are going both ways, and we'll
never agree to We'll agree to disagree all the way through.
There's no toys about that. We won't agree on everything,
but at least we're talking and they are listening to.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Us as well.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
So the runners are on the bridge as sleepers are
on their way, and that means it's time for us
to go. Jason Hererick out of south and Federated Farmers.
Always appreciate your time.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
You're welcome. Have a good alfnoon, Eddy.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Jason here of Southland Federated Farmers. This is the muster
next we're heading to catch up with Nigel Woodhead and
levels flat halfway between Balclusa and Melton. This is the

(13:03):
muster and Hakaui Niger would he had farms between bell
Cleuther and Milton and joins us this afternoon. Good afternoon, Nige, Yeah,
afternoon Andy, a big event that you will placed last Thursday.
Of course you had the tiny Emerson's tiny pub there.
The spaces bar was there as well and a number
of punters. It was a great afternoon.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
It was an awesome afternoon. Actually, yeah, I had a
bit of a count up and Reagon. There was about
one hundred, so a hundred odd people here, which was yeah,
it was awesome, and yeah, it was a it was
a great event and each obviously ch used all the
sponsors he run who chipped in and the lions and
things for doing the food and I'll see you and

(13:42):
the lads were coming up and yeah it was it
was real good, awesome, and you know, good to catch
up with a few people weren't seen for a while
and meet a few new people and yeah, some familiar
faces and some faces I hadn't seen before. So it
was good. That's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
That's the big thing about these events, just connecting and
taking a bit of a chance to bag her off
off the tractor for half an hour and doing what
you need to do because everything's just pretty much a
rush at the moment.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's plenty going on all right, but no,
it was.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
It was.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
It was great way to sort of to relax and
not think about all the heat pit stuff going on
on a farm at the moment. But yeah, she was
a slow on Friday.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah that's understandable. But like we say, did everybody who
got the event together, thank you very much. It was
it was appreciated as nice. Just alluded to. So that's
your main focus on the farm at the moment.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
I've been doing but I had been stuff in office
this morning. So yeah, we've got an insured fat plus
audit coming up, so just trying to get a bit
of stuff organized around that and making sure the recal
keepings up the scratch and put some pieces. So yeah,
it's always a bit of a scramble before your audit
to make sure you where you need to be. I
think I'm sort of nine extend. Boy, there is a

(14:54):
week you detail things organized, but it'll it'll happen. Yeah,
stop with just making sure everything's well feed at the moment.
It's important time a year and the leading to weaning,
making sure we sort of keep pasta covers about right,
make sure everyone's got enough to eat, but not too
much so grasped, I can get away on you and yeah,

(15:14):
gets one to feed and hopefully so hopefully my contract
is coming to morrow with his drick drill to the
petica swedes, three peedis feet and a couple of last
couple of pedus kale and manybody there'll be all the
winter feeding. So yeah, sort of like I say, it's
sort of stock working crops at the moment, but E
really has enjoyed that we rain with it. You say,

(15:36):
see you that for free?

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, you were saying that you've head close to ann
show over the past twenty four to thirty six hours.
You'll appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, I think year twenty odd meals over
the last couple of days, which is fantastic, quite timely,
quite timing. We were just just starting enjoy it a wee.
But really you could see it on some of the
some of the sort of were the not so much
tops or the dry knobs were starting to go we
with brown, so quite good, and we'll yeah, you know,

(16:04):
once we get someone to feed in the next couple
of days, we'll be we'll be off hopefully.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
So how late do you leave your waning.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
As late as possible. It all depends. It all depends
on what's going on with pasture covers and you know,
you condition and if the land is still growing and things.
So we'll we shure some freezer or the three hundred
freezers last week and we'll get you know, we'll kill them.
I think they've bopped them for the week at the
fifteenth of December, so that'll be good to get them

(16:33):
away in December. And we usually throw a wee handful
with a week skin draft on then too, just to
add a sort of them and out of the singles.
So we'll look to do that again this year. You
get as many away before Christmas as we can and
then you know, last couple of years, it's vary between
before Christmas and between Christmas and New Year for weaning.

(16:57):
But in an ideal world, would you would leave the
on mum well into January to make the most of
the little bit of milk they'll get off mum and
keep them nice and fat, But we'll see it all
depends on how much feed we've got. If we're tied
for feed, then we'll just wing and try and get
some good tucker into those lambs and get some weight
onto the use, but use. You know, I drenched all

(17:20):
the lambs here about two weeks ago. I think I
finished up, and you know there's some of those us
are still big and fat and around, and they had
the gutters, so they're obviously milking well. They haven't probably
a huge amount of condition.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
Off their back.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
So if we can look after that body condition and
look after you feed covers and feed quality, then we'll
try and leave lambs on as long as possible.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yet, is your stock staying clean.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
There's a few dirty bums starting to run around year,
which sort of happens this time of year, you know,
with that lush green feed, and there'll be the odd
worm floating around. I would have thought, you know, there
was you know, I rushed in and drenched all the
lambs on because you had that sort of nematodorus, you know,
smiley faced around the bomb of a few lambs. So

(18:07):
I got in and got them drenched, and the nemati
dorus and the heads. So yeah, that some of the us,
especially the lighter ones, will be struggling away from from
worms too. But then they're not too bad to be
fee we crutch over the three lambs, so you know,
like they're not they're not running around big eggs on
the on the baking.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
So you're pretty confident in your drinking program. You've got
it nailed down pretty good.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Uh, things to work, Yeah, we've got We do have
possesstmance to over met like the mild and family. So
and we know that we've heard that for a while,
so we Yeah, we we do every three or four
years to a peaqually account reduction taste so that we

(18:51):
know what's going on with their drenchers and we see like, uh,
I think the last one we did was a couple
of years ago, and it was it was actually like
the numbers were better than they were the previous time
we've done it, which the event sort of said, don't
look into too much. That's sort of a rounding era,
but it was still good to know that we weren't
getting worse with their drench resistance in the worms. So yeah,

(19:15):
try like I use fine large, don't get drench, so
we've got a big portion of air stock on farm always,
you know, essentially on drenched we might give the odd
light one a squirt pre lam and potentially even pre touch,
but just they're a bit skinny, but you know, probably

(19:35):
use don't get touched after after two. So yeah, and
we're using more and more summer crop as well. For
the past probably six or eight years, we've had a
lot of i'll turn it crops in apart from ryegrass,
you know, like the flavor and plantain, and then lately
we've gone to the kale and plantain, and after weaning

(19:57):
this year, depending on what the crops look like, we
should have sort of I've been under lambs, just go
straight on to crop for six weeks and that takes
a mess of worm burden off all that parsture.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
So yeah, in.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
Hopefully going forward we'll having a few more kettle running around,
which eases the worm burden the weaver as well, So
we sort of try and do a few things. We've
got to big quick counting kit and we see one
with the neighbors, which I probably don't use as much
as I should, but I do use it a bit
in the summer time, just to keep an eye on things.
And yeah, it's quite good to see. Yeah, and numbers

(20:34):
aren't looking to a bed considering the dry season.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Hey, good on your night. You better leave it there.
We'll catch up one last time for twenty twenty five
and like we say, great event last week, and all
the bits for the unit coming up as well.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
No worries chesny'll ketch leather.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Nigera wordhead farming in South Oftigo between cloth and melts.
And you're listening to the muster. Victoria Tremaine out of
Bennerman prock Shank Pride to the lawyers is up next.

(21:12):
Welcome back to the muster on Hakanui Toy Tremaine joins us.
Now out of Bannerman Crookshank Pride the lawyer's tory. How
are you?

Speaker 8 (21:20):
I'm good? Thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Indeed, so today we're talking about enduring power of attorney.
Tell us in the nuts and bolts what this is exactly?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, So an enduring power of attorney is any important
documents or documents that we recommend that anybody who essentially
owns property, has an interest in property, should have in place.
So there are two different types of powers of attorneys.
There's one nets in relation to your property and one

(21:50):
that's in relation to your personal care and wealthare so
you can appoint different people to have those roles, and
they can have certain terms thinks incorporated into them as well.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Do you find many people actually have different power of
attorneys though for these two things is that common?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
It can be because a lot of people with having
other family members living all over the place, not necessarily
or being local. Often people will want to appoint somebody
as they're enduring power of attorney for personal care and
wealthy for example, to someone who is local, who are
sort of on the ground, who can help them get
to medical appointments and be part of that decision making

(22:31):
process and has more of a feelful what is going
on day to day. Whereas a property mened of turning.
In relation to property metas, that can be someone who's
a bit more further afield, who still knows what property
metas are important and what needs to be dealt with.
But the way that technology is these days, that can
be done from the far, so there are sometimes some

(22:53):
differences and appointments due to that. Other times people keep
it simple and they have the one person or one person,
and then that person and another person appointed in relation
to property and they all work harmoniously together. So it
is an individual decision around that, but there's no vital
wrong answer.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Really.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Now you talk about personal care or welfare, which more
or less talks about mental capacity. So this is just
in case something goes astray as far as mental well being.
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yes, that's right. So during power of attorney, appointment can
only come into effect if somebody loses their mental capacity.
So there's lots of ways that can happen. Unfortunately, whether
it's biomedical event or traumatic accident, or you know degenerative

(23:47):
causes dementia, Alzheimer's which are becoming more and more common
these days. It only comes into effect when there's been
a relevant medical person provide their certification. Basically the use
this person has lost the mental capacity and is an't
able to understand or make decisions about their personal care

(24:07):
and wealthare So that's when the attorney who's appointed in
relation to personal care and wealthy can start taking over
that decision making. They still have to consult with the
person who is needing the decisions made about them, but
they essentially have the final word because or final decision
because they obviously do have the mental capacity and can

(24:29):
understand the consequences and implications more than the other person.
In terms of the property power of attorney appointment, you
can actually select that you want to give your attorneys
the part to be able to make decisions and sign
things on your behalf, even if you do have mental capacity,

(24:52):
so that Traditionally people have used if they're going overseas
or no, they're not going to be available for quite
some time to be able to sign documents, but they've
got things still happening. From a property perspective, they can
have somebody sign that on their behalf. That there's some
options around that where you can just have it to
come into effect if again you've become mentally incapable and

(25:13):
can't man as your property met as yourself anymore. So
you've got options around that one.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
And what you can do power of attorney, especially in
mental capacity. Can it be challenged, Yes, it can be.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
There is provision within the Protection of personal and property
right back for people to do that, and it's essentially
going a court application if it gets to that point.
Often a lot of it is because of miscommunications or
misunderstandings around who's appointed, who can do what, and when
they can do what they can do. So often any

(25:47):
misunderstandings or disputes that arise can generally be resolved before
they get to that point where courter's intervention is required.
But a lot of it comes down to being transparent
and everyone knows.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
So a property power of attorney, what's the difference main
difference between the two?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Then a property power of attorney means that your decision
making these attorney can only be in relation to property measures,
so that would be buying or selling a house, or
managing bank accounts or investments, you know, that physical kind
of property, whereas the personal tre and welfare is more
about the day to day care needs that somebody may have,

(26:26):
So that could be signing the documentation for somebody to
enter into RESK home care, or signing them up to
receive particular medical treatment or ongoing medication. All of those
sort of day to day more personally related to your
health and wellbeing is compared to property.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
So the property is more or less a follow on
from the personal care and wealthy side of things.

Speaker 8 (26:51):
I suppose they do go hands in hand to an
extent because often if you've got deteriorating health, your property
is often needed to be able to help you manage
that deteriorating house.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
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So they often do go hand in hand. So the
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Tippy you're listening to the mustard Welcome back to the

(28:17):
muster on Hakanui Grant disaster. MacMaster joins us once again,
of course, thanks to Batman and the TM at RB
Rural Gide Grunt.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yeah, good afternoon, Andy Graft and and everybody.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
How's everything in the basin on this fine afternoon.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Well, you know, it's a bit of snow at the
tops this morning. We were out last night up the
road at a barbecue and it was bloody cold. And
there's a reason for that. There was a little bit
of rain during the night and number five mills at
ten Mills on Saturday while we're tailing, but we'll get
to that. And I see this morning cross at Cecil
Peak and right along the remarkable is quite a good

(28:50):
skiff of snow which is still there at the moment.
So yeah, it's that's the reason it's been a bit cool.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
It's predicted. It is predictably unpredictable the weather at the moment,
and really this pattern, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Sure, but I think that, and you know I was
speaking of here. It looks as the weather pattern is
very similar to what it was last year. And you know,
I think we've spoken about it, but you know, rained,
rained up until just sort of about now stopped and
then went into Christmas and that we didn't get the
rain until all the rain we've just got at the
end of August, September, October, November. So it's looking pretty similar.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Andy Dennis talking about the ground being too soaked to
get the iron horse out into the paddock. How are
you looking there then?

Speaker 4 (29:31):
In that respect, oh the same, Like it's there's still
water running off off the hill that I've been banging
on about since it first started. But you know, it's
just it's wet. The fact head shepherd Brian dag got
the vehicle stuck just going along the track to the
end of a block to muster and that's that's on
the moat Lake Flats, and you know it's that we

(29:53):
haven't had that before. So it's just it's just pretty
wet at times. But the over the hell block we've
got ground ready to well we've had given the grass
the new grass patting a cup there a while ago
and it's due for another one now, so but it'll
be a couple of days before we get back onto
that because it was I said, we had ten mills

(30:14):
on Saturday and in another four or five last night,
so it and it's been a bit of one. At
times it dries up and then it's just sort of
that rain and not heaving me. Wasn't particularly cold over
the weekend, not like this morning. But yeah, just things
are ready to go and it's would be good to
get that grass and the and the and the raven

(30:38):
so get that done. But they've locked up a couple
of blocks over the hills that Forbade it is now
they're just you know, one they're just getting away.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
So the feast of famis so it's a pretty good
synergy having the Hills block running alongside close barn.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Ye, it's really good. And you know it's a sort
of we buy in certain bailage each year and about
one hundred and fifty bales and we don't you know,
we don't have any flat land here as such to
make bailage. So we thought, right, well, we've gone the
bailage way for about the last fifteen years and with

(31:14):
the with the Hills Bogle, we hadn't had in mind
that we get this new pasture and and a bit
of clover and it what have you, and then we
might be able to use that bring that, make that
bailage there and cart it back, you know. So it
was about thirty five ks. So I think that's what
we're going to be able to do this year because
the two good paddocks are really into it and got

(31:36):
other paddocks now coming along with new grass that have,
you know. For the main reason was always to get
the hogits going and get them up to speed. So
we've got enough paddocks to do that. So yeah, shut
up a couple of paddocks there a couple of weeks ago.
Well they did it themselves. Really, they couldn't handle the
rotation was getting back quick. So yeah, we're going to

(31:57):
do that. So that'll that's sort of the plan we've had,
you know since we've had the hells five or six
years ago, and that's sort of come to fruish now,
so that we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Okay, So tailing occurred at the weekend. Tubby and crew
were up there. I dare say, you're all drinking hot
chocolate and bed tucked up at nine point thirty.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Tubby's a hard man to get tucked into bed. There's
a fair few blinks to go over, but there's a
middle attention and the coiling team because you mentioned and
mentioning Tubby, you see, and it's always been Hunty's Hunting's
project to get he invited Tubby up there. Tubby's taken over,
so it's a mute point there, so please you mentioned it.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
But no, the usual.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
The usual team were there and that was quite interesting.
This year. We've we've always had one of our local girls,
Grace Hasty. She's up studying at the university in christ
Church now and she's been coming since she's about seven
or eight and she's twenty or twenty one now, so
she and she's good rugby player, Grace, and he's ill
in the university. He's played for Otago and she's bought it.
She bought a friend pass along and she's in the

(33:00):
and and the Chiefs women's team Super twelve what do
you call it for next year? So both both forwards
and both complained the front rows. It was quite interesting.
We put it we've got a scrum down and because
you know Tubby and Honey great great hookers in their
day and like to tell you about it. And I'd
just like to say that the few girls just about
blew them into moat lakes. So there's a lot they

(33:21):
said for that. Having females in your and your tailing group.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Well, it just keeps everybody else in line, does it not, Well,
they do, and.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
You know those people will take a bit of keeping
in line. So no, a good crew, couple of grandkids
again and a couple of son in laws and then
the usual guys that come along. And so no, we
had a good We had a good run away, got
going by sex in the morning on the Friday. On
the Saturday, Brian dag and I had mustered up with
few the day before. But then we just have a
couple of Daggy and Teagle, just bring the mobs in

(33:50):
and will hold them on the hell and so yeah,
going by six o'clock and a bit of rain came
in about oh, sort of about half us eleven, I
guess we and looked as I was going to set in.
We finished that that that pen and we just carried
on because they had lambs sitting in the using lambs
and a couple of hill blocks, so we got to

(34:10):
them and whipped them out and stopped. We had a
bit of lunch and it sort of came out and
got round the back and finished a couple of big
mobs there and only left sort of a couple of
hours on Sunday morning, So it was it was a
bit like it was a bit like a holiday.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
You said Tiger was helping Daggery. I take it this
isn't David Tegle Morrison.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Oh no, no, this is this is Tigle the This
is justin Brian Wallace, the headman of Peter's Genetics. So ah, yeah,
so I know we've got we've got very skilled people,
you know, from like the stud masters through to the
guys that run the freezing works and all the hunt
towers as he does, and Tubby that just sort of
runs around south and doing everything.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Ye don't know how Tigle Morrison are going and tailing
I supposed to be all right, but it's a beautiful
thing about Sorry.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
You're going to say, yeah, well, he probably go right,
because Chris squal I came up a couple of years
ago and he was very good on the gin and
he first day but like when he was playing Rubby
went out pretty hard and topped the shoulder, but he
was a bit more. He was a bit quiet of
the second day.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
But you know, so that you know there's a bit
of the first night Blues is always a concern, right, yes,
but it's all about Look, we talk about the camaraderie
or the tailing pen and will you talk about it
every year disaster and there's always something that occurs as
a curve ball get thrown onder, the B twelve or
the something gets left at home, the scratch and well

(35:32):
that happened a couple of years ago, didn't it.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah, that was again Hunting, and that's what he took
over to be fair, But you know Smithy down there, batman,
he you know, he's living on close friends. All the
stuff I get through him. So it was actually Hunting
redeemed himself this year and picked it up. But he
had about fifteen reminders, so you know that that was
there's always something happenings a bit. You know, it's a

(35:55):
it's a great it's a great job to then turned
to get out of the way, but you've got to
have a bit of fun on the way through. And
the certainly penny of Vanda and bullshit, so that's why
everyone keeps coming back.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
That'd be a great name of a band, Banter and
Bullshit Disaster, but we better leave it there mate. We
always appreciate your time.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Mate.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
We're doing a bit of singing the other night we
could go on the road.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
The one and Amy Grant disaster McMaster thanks to Batman
of the team at RB Rural. Good on your tab
and co if you guys are listening. Hap next Josh
Willis out of Tian Young Farmers. Welcome back to the
muster on hok and now we we were away out
to the Fjordland basin this afternoon catching up with Josh Willis,

(36:39):
although he's talking to us from over at the Manapuri
power Station where he works of course in the Young
Farmer's segment, Josh, good afternoon and welcome to the muster
and me on here you are, yeah, pretty good. I
think the question is though we'll talk about the power
station surely that's a whole different subject. But you are
the well, you are the current winner of Spell for

(37:00):
It taking over the rain of Michael Lee from Saturday night.
It was a great fundraiser for the Balfer hallt under
Balfa Young Farmers and everybody involved with that. But you
took out the chocolates, you took out the top prize.

Speaker 7 (37:13):
Mate, Yeah, yeah, this is a tough little battle, but.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
It was an interesting battle. I'll say that, seventeen contestants
putting their names out there to be judged as Sash.
Did you find it intimidating going on stage, getting out
of your comfort zone?

Speaker 7 (37:31):
It was at the start of it, and mean, yeah,
I just found out it was quite relaxed and yeah,
just got on the crew with things.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I suppose probably a couple of Bevies helped. I suppose, yeah, it.

Speaker 7 (37:42):
Definitely did help come the nerves a bit.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
So is this the kind of thing? Is it just
a once? I felt like everybody, I suppose, just getting
into the spirit of the occasion. But yeah, what one
for you? Do you reckon?

Speaker 7 (37:56):
I think I'll have to think Harry McCallum's day I
gave her set me over the top.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yes, that was intriguing and I'll say that shout out
to Harry obviously you're still mates.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's his idea.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
So oh yeah, I wonder what we were up against then,
But yeah, look like I say to those who underwhere
Miss Balfour was held by the balf of Young Farmers
and the Balfal Hall on Saturday night, raising funds for
the Balfa Hall for restoration efforts. I need to go
on there, hey, Josh, But obviously you're based up in
the basin. Like I say, Tiana, Young Farmers, how long

(38:34):
you've been involved with the club?

Speaker 7 (38:38):
Been involved since they kicked back up in twenty twenty
one to will be four years now.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
That's pretty good going. Well, what's the appeal of a
four year you reckon? Oh?

Speaker 7 (38:48):
Just great crowd of people, A great crowd.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Of people, Tiana. Young Farmers was dormant for quite a while,
like I said, Harry and people of that where they
were driving force for getting you to go along there
and get involved. Josh, what was the go.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
I've always always been into the Young Farmers, And yeah,
when I moved back down here, it hadn't quite started up,
so when it did start up, sort of just got
stuck straight in.

Speaker 7 (39:15):
Yeah, that's been real good.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
So you say you moved down south? Where were you
before this?

Speaker 7 (39:20):
Before that I was, I was shippeting all around South
Island all sorts of places. Originally from down here though, Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
We find it these days. You're involved with the Melopori
Palace as hydro station power station as such, what's what
are you doing over there, I'm a sparky. Yeah, did
you go back and retrain as a sparky after being
a shepherd or what was the story?

Speaker 7 (39:46):
Yeah, so I only quit farming about eighteen months ago
and started up here still in an apprenticeship, so just
over halfway through it.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
It's a pretty big change going from working on a
farm to getting a traders Suppose it is.

Speaker 7 (40:02):
Definitely different, definitely different, going from seeing all sorts of
weather above ground to not seeing any below ground.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Well, obviously you don't suffer from being claustrophobic.

Speaker 7 (40:15):
No, No, it's not too bad down here.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
So how far down do you go? Actually? When you're
on the tools? How far underground?

Speaker 7 (40:23):
So the tunnel is just over two k's long, which
is about straight down. It's about two hundred beaters.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
And how many of you involved with the job as such?

Speaker 7 (40:38):
Well, I'm a contractor, so there's four of us here
full time, and then there's about twenty fifteen twenty meridian stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yes, certainly bit of work stories. And I did say
you'd be able to come home with some pretty gnarly
ones on a Friday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (40:55):
We always play it safe.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I don't know what you're on about.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I'm not doubting your judgement, I know, but I'm just
saying working working in an environment like that isn't just
your average above ground job though, right, Yeah, it.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
Can be can be pretty interesting. Yeah, been in some
interesting days, like a few weeks ago, coming back on
the boat with it wind and rain it hit.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
That would have been a nightmare.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 7 (41:22):
It's quite gnarly heaven one and a half two meter
breakers on the lake.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Young farmers. You're a real active club there, and actually
Harry was telling me about the numbers you were getting
to the meetings and a lot of people think about
a third of the members or something. He said, we're
actually from from an urban environmental jobs outside of farming,
which is pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
Yeah, it's quite quite an array of different different jobs
in your club, from Sparky's and teachers and so you.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Guys are out picking up rocks last night by the
looks of it on your socials.

Speaker 7 (41:56):
Yeah, yeah, interesting one to do after work.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Nothing like going from the palace. Nothing like going from
working at an underground paler station to picking up rocks
and checking them on a load of backer. Right, Yeah,
I wasn't just.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
Packing them up. We're taking them from about six feet
deep some of them.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Oh, it's called internal fortitude. There's nothing wrong with it,
is it exactly? Just Finally Josh as well, Tia young
farmers like I say, going great guns, But when do
you guys meet up?

Speaker 4 (42:27):
When?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
What are the details people need to know?

Speaker 7 (42:30):
So we usually made up on Wednesday, first Wednesday of
every month at seven o'clock at the club and Tian now,
but this week we're not having a meeting this week.
It's next week. We're just merging it into where Christmas done.
If anyone wants to come along, they can hit the
club up, hit Harry mckillum or me up and then

(42:53):
we'll get you down there for If not, so.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
What are you doing for your Christmas?

Speaker 7 (42:56):
D I just go into a wall sheds over mountain.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
A debrisf I.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Suppose I was just about to say that is exact
word a debris from Verdict Commas.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Hey, good on you, Josh, thanks for your time on
the Mustard Saft and he congratulations as well on the
title of Miss Bealfa Antiana young farmer is always good
to catch up with you guys and enjoy the work today.
It sounds like a really cool job.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Yeah no, she silip.

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Speaker 1 (43:36):
So young fellow goes and visits his grandpa and hoss
and a nursing home. He goes, how are your grandpa?
He goes, I'm feeling fine. Young fellow goes, what's the
food like? He goes, terrific, wonderful menus, And the nursing
grandpa says, couldn't be better. The nurses really take care
of you. Young fella says, what about sleeping? Do you sleep? Okay?
He goes, no problem at all hours, nine hours solid.
Every night at ten o'clock, they bring me a cover

(43:58):
of hot chocolate and a vice Aggra tablet and that's it.
I go out like a light. The grandson's puzzled in
a little alarm, so he asks the sister in charge,
what are you people doing giving a ninety five year
old viagra on a daily basis? That can't be true.
Oh yes, it is, replied the nurse. Every night at
ten o'clock we give them a cup of chocolate and
a Viagra tablet, but where it's wonderfully well. The chocolate

(44:19):
makes them roll, makes them sleep, and the Viagara stops
them from rolling out of bed. That's us over and
done with for the afternoon, remembering hit up the muster page.
Muster on Hakanui page regarding mainland minerals go on like
the page of mainland minerals as well. We're going to
draw the winner of the five hundred prizzy card five
hundred dollars prizezy card on Friday afternoon. I'm Andy Muller.

(44:41):
This is the muster on Hakkinnui. Thanks for Peter jenetix
enjoy the abbot said, Tom right, hey, well all right too,
he'll go there. And what did it go on again
for him? I'm a twenty five stock selling action occurred
this morning at the Laundvil sale yards. Thanks of course,
the PGG writes Ince the Sam Riley's on the phone
to tell us all about the good afternoon, mate. It

(45:01):
sounds as though the kettle sales were just as positive
as a sheep side of things.

Speaker 9 (45:05):
Tell us more, Yeah, evil, it's pretty selling pretty well
down here today. That yeah, nice day turned out. It's
not sure whether where it's going to come talking about
or not, but we'll take the sunshine at the moment.
From kettle today, just a small yarding today. Those stairs
four fifty to six hundred kgs four dollars sixty to
four dollars sixty six, the head is at one inner

(45:26):
fifty kilos four dollars sixty three, and the cows five
to six hundred cag's They were two dollars eighty. This
the small yarding of store kettle in today made up
mainly of calves to mar one beef cross head steers
at two undred and sixty six k's with one thousand
and ninety to mar one beef balls at three hundred

(45:46):
and thirty eight k's. They range from fifteen hundred to
fifteen fifty dollars and into the calves and when a
Sharley cross fallcalves one hundred and twenty two hundred and
fifty kilos seven sixty to eight forty and the sharley
cross heads at one hundred and twenty five kg seven
hundred dollars free and balls one hundred and seven kilo
freeing ball six and thirty dollars even selling all right

(46:09):
there andre the sheep we move lambs. Last year's lambs
still hand all those coming through with the lambs teeth,
so the tops of those of two eighty to three thirty,
the medium's two twenty to two sixty, and the loighter
and stuff at one hundred and eighty to two hundred
and ten. The spring lambs the best of those were

(46:31):
two forty to three h eight, and the medium's spring
lambs at one seventy to one nineties are selling very
well there. The heavy use one hundred and eighty and
two hundred and thirty dollars on the tops of those,
and one hundred and forty to one hundred and seventy
five on the mediums and local trade rams the heavy
rams eighty to ninety dollars and the loitering rams at
sixty dollars. A few lines of store lambs in today,

(46:56):
and there were things selling very well there, the tops
of those one hundred and fifty five to one hundred
and eighty dollars on the top of the store lands,
the medium's one thirty five to one fifty, and the
lottery in stores at one hundred, one hundred and thirty dollars,
and that wraps up, one waits. Everything's reasonally positive there.
We do have coming up on Thursday our charity auction,

(47:17):
so that's teen thirty on Thursday the Lawngal sail Yards.
There is approximately one hundred and fifty deterinary carves for
ic Gunberent Friday in hospice, so that's run by visitor
Arsington Carfields and the sale is on Bitter as well,
so Bitter have donated their time to come down and
do that, so anyone wants getting them behind that charity

(47:38):
auction that is on Thursday eighteen thirty up
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