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Andy Muir talks to James Edgar, Steve Henderson, James Burrows, Robin Greer, Jason Pine and Mark Calder.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
DYEA good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakanui.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
My name is Andy Muller. Were here until two o'clock
this afternoon, of course thanks Peter's genetics on an afternoon
which has just been full of positives. Firstly the GDT
option going up five point seven percent overnight, but as well,
we finally have an All Blacks coach. Dave Ready has
got been given the nod over Jamie Joseph Jason Pine

(00:33):
from New Stig ZIBB. We're going to talk about this
later on in the y hour. But finally sinceretainy for
the Ull Blacks eighteen months or so out from the
Rugby World Cup. Music for Hunt Day rock Setshkanui's.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Five day forecast with twin farm teff from and soft
text The Proofs and the Progeny tear from dot co
dot inz.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
This afternoon, sunshine of count variable wins in twenty two
Thursday sunny, We're breezing your Westeries fourteen and twenty three,
Friday sunny, We're breezing your Westerlies twelve and twenty five.
Saturday cloudy with sou Westerly's forming twelve and twenty and
Sunday's going a little bit cat graying with breezy sow
westeries five and fourteen. So our temperatures Clinton thirteen point nine,

(01:22):
Harry at eleven point nine, Northern South and thirteen point
seven Ribond and twelve point three Tian Now fourteen point one,
Tidorrow thirteen point five, went in twelve point three of
Woodlands at thirteen point three. James Egger of mar Flatt
starts us off this afternoon looking at the price of
red meat and how are we going to go if
you're trying to get stall lambs? What does it mean

(01:42):
for you given the way the prices are at the
babent and just the positivity around the sector. Steve Henderson,
he's on tour this so afternoon. I think we catch
him up on the West coast. James Barrows from darien
Z's On the program is Robin Greer from PGG Rights
in real Estate and Jason Pine weekend sports host Newstalk
ZB talking about Dave Rinny's appointment, which only happened in

(02:04):
the last nineteen minutes or so. Mark Calder from PGG
writs and gives a rundown about Cluth to stock prices.
Then we'll start the yel with James Egger. This is
the Mustard until two o'clock. Thanks to Peter's genetics. James

(02:26):
Egger joins us this afternoon farming at moa Flat. James,
Good afternoon, rock Sette. That's a pretty cool song. Dangerous.
They were massive back in the day.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, No, I do actually like ros set It gets
you going for the day, and there's been happening. So yeah,
one of your better choices, I suppose over her different.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Musical I was just about to say that you've been
pretty cynical about some of my song selections for you,
which is fair enough. Music is open to interpretation. But
you're pretty scathing.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I have been in the past, Andy, But that's that's
the way things go.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
James. Let's talk about the situation we're seeing at the moment.
There's a whole lot to decipher if we're honest about
the situation. Firstly, though, the price of Lamb. These rumors
about Spring contracts for Lamb.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah no, I've heard probably rumors like you have, and
it'll be interesting. I mean, what can we take out?
We can take out them once again, this is my opinion.
I think we'll set it about ten dollars fifty somewhere
around there for the mid season price. As we're already
a long way through, I have always suspicion that there
might not be as many lambs round as what may

(03:35):
be forecast as well, But once again, that's that's just
my suspicion. I guess if we look at mile Flat
like a next door dabor, big two seven hundred and
he years has just been planted into pine trees, and
we have other land use changes around the place, and
just for the difficult season two, I certainly see more

(03:55):
cattle around the place as we've sort of changed through,
you know, probably a product of the two years ago
when the land price was so low. There's there's certainly
been a lot of land use change. So I just
wonder if not the beef and land forecasts have really
keyed into just how many farms have gone to forestry.
I mean, you only get drifted to the need, and
don't you so No, I think if it said it

(04:16):
was there, and then you possibly think that maybe there's
two dollars on plus to the winter contract. But I
mean time will tell, won't it.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
These forecasts that come out of November I'd question it.
I wonder how they get the accuracy around them.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I know they've got Montor farmers and then they wring
them up and then they forecast. I think possibly they
were right that then there has been a higher lemming.
But I think what maybe they haven't forecast or really
got there was probably some of the land use change.
I mean, yeah, maybe per head per year the performance
was up because we did have two dollars thiabolical springs
in a row. But yeah, I just wonder where maybe

(04:54):
though haven't quite accounted for the fall and sheer numbers
of breeding use will be one one thought of mine.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, that just doesn't the lambs around that just seems
to stick out o the proverbial no.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
And they haven't done that well this year, Like it's
been a bit of a battle some of the crop lambs.
They haven't been quite as bad it's been the first year.
So we usually share a lot of lambs at the
start of Feedbruary and there's certainly, you know, sixty or
seventy percent of the years they really fly. You get
that warm weather in Feedbrury and quite often you're getting

(05:27):
a bit dry and the lambs just really round up,
and I personally think this year we saw them and
I think they sat. I don't think they went as
well as even the lambs that stayed wooly. So yeah,
it's just sort of been a little bit of a
battle lamb finishing in general this year. But even driving
around for how far behind the kill we are, like,

(05:48):
you just don't see massive volumes of lambs.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, especially for store lambs, hearing likes of five dollars
up to five dollars fifty and some instances I do believe.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, And that's fantastic, isn't it. Well, I hope there's
an industry like one thing that's sticking out. We're talking
off the earlier about Iran, but one thing I can
see is I personally don't see the land price changing
all that much for the next couple of years. But
I mean it's really looking like we're going to get
some more cost inflation, so which is yeah, when they
say inflation doesn't nobody wins. But you know, there's been

(06:24):
been emails sent out from the fertilizer co ops already
and they and then we're going to see some oil
price pressure and no doubt the rates and various things
the other councils will have to put in there five
cents too, So you can see that sticking away from
mile Away. There's just the cost pressure on which will
impact their margin for the high prices. You know that's
sticking out of mile Away.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, if Trump be doing what he's doing in Iran
is short and short, do you think perhaps it'll only
be a short term correction?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
No, I don't. No, No, I think when they say
fifty percent of the whole world's food is directly counted
for from nitrogen fertilizer, and most of the nitrogen fertilizer
has come from the gas in terms of like oil
and gas production basically. So no, I think even a

(07:13):
short term shot there and places like China and you're
trying to shore up your own food supply by using
more nitrogen fertilizer, I really see that going up to
a new level, if I'm honest.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So farm gate inflation comes into the equation once again.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yes, I think it's slipping out. It's definitely something I'm
thinking about ready, and we'll probably start pricing into my
business going forward for the next couple of years. I
just don't see anyway it's not going to be quite
a substantial amount of it. As I say, the good
news is the product prices have been higher. But yeah,
it's pretty hard to see that going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
So how are you going to work out a budget
for your stop for next season?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I'll be using the same numbers as this season, and
that's what I'm going to be using.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
YEP.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I think there's going to be a reflection. There's nothing
there I can see that's fundamentally going to change one
of the things I actually look at. So when you're
looking at the kettle prices, I know the old saying
was always keep an eye on the American kettle herd.
So when they're in rebuilding face phases, basically the kettle
price was always strong, and when they're selling down, you

(08:20):
know their herd the kettle price dropped. And from what
I've seen, I just watched the Australian sheep herd. For
the sheep when they're heading up towards one hundred million sheep,
at some stage they liquidate the flock and their and
their lamb price goes substantially backwards. And when they end
up back down towards sixty million sheep. In Australia, they

(08:40):
start accumulating them again and you usually find the price
is strong. So that's a thing that I can see.
And yeah, I think the cattle herds just starting to
rebuilding America, but that won't change for next year, I
don't believe in. And the sheep liquidations probably stopped in Australia,
but they're still a few years away from getting back
up towards a hundred million ship.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yes, certainly fascinating times when you look around the world
is what's going to happen regarding food security? The EU,
the UK for example, very parochial around buying locally and
the likes. But yeah, I mean these are different times.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, absolutely they are. I think that it still doesn't
phaze me so much. Like the fundamentals of just being
a good farmer and a good business owner, they really
haven't changed, whether up the price is up or down.
You know, you know argue it's not easy when the
price is up, and you've got to capitalize when the
price is up to try and set the business up

(09:37):
for the next time that the prices are poor.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Is a yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
So then that it still comes back to the basics
and fundamentals, and and that won't change very much.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
You talk about the dairy being look of gold at
the moment, well, way Kaka gold mine is limited. This
what's happening over there, This is a good news story.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Oh absolutely, it's stall Pugnis Andy and the more old
mines and the more farms and the more excellence I
would call it that the South of the Otago districts
can do down here is just absolutely key in my opinion.
I think New Zealand's got really strong laws about how
they have to leave it after they've finished gold mining

(10:18):
or coal or whatever it is or farming. So like
there's some really strong rules there that you can't just
pillage the land. But I'd argue in some circumstances that
the land actually gets left in a more useful way
than when it started. Plus we've had this great economic
boost for the for the district down here, So absolutely

(10:40):
the more we can do, the better. And you know,
and I actually take my hat off for the people
that have invested in it and put everything on the line,
I guess and got over and yeah, I just hope
you know the next thing with the gold miner farming
as you're in there for twenty or thirty years, So
I hope if there's chains of governments or there's yeah,
different councils coming that maybe there's less flip flopping and

(11:05):
changing like you'd like to think that I've now got
signed off and they got to go for the length
of their resource consent.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Just finally, how are things looking on the farm at
mar Flat.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
We're the tails two farms and ten kilometers apart, and
their higher farm that's more towards the east. It's having
probably the best season we've had for a long long time,
and the one that's more towards the west getting towards
White Caires were now really quite dry, lost most of
their pastry cover, yes, and really a towel of two tapes.

(11:39):
But equally we changed their farming system for the last
couple of years. So now we've just started exiting bulls.
We're well through the lambs. Ironically, the lambs have done
a lot better on the dry farm. We'll probably had
the best lambs and all three from the drier farm
with less feed, but it's probably just been a bit
warmer there maybe. So anyway, we're exiting those and yeah,

(12:02):
so we'll be right down to the least amount of
numbers we can probably in two weeks, and yeah, hopefully
we get a good autumn because it's going to be
quite a long winter on that block especially, But if
we don't get a bit of corners, because we had
a big frost the other day and it was boardline
trying to snow about two days before that. So yeah, no, no,

(12:23):
she's a long winter if we start from February.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Andy good only James chat again, Thank you, James Eggor
farming at Maha Flat the tail of the tape. Two
farms ta kilometers apart and totally different regarding pasture cover.
Steve Henderson's up next, farming down at our row. We
catch him on maneuvers this afternoon somewhere. Welcome back to

(12:55):
the master. Steve Henderson farms down at our aura. Here's
the chair of the Southern Field days and he's been
around on maneuverus today. By the sounds of it, stave
you good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Half an end of year our joy ride song. Yeah,
we yesterday or day before actually went for a joy
ride from cross Shirts to Kerama, of all places. So yeah,
hell of a joy ride for five years and a care.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'll talk you out there.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
To Industry Awards at this time of the year. So
for the regional round of judging, they take outside of
the region people. So here's myself. Then you're inzed in
a banker cruising around and we've got there three well
actually all contract markers to judge over here on the coast.
So yep, that is me for the next couple of days.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
So where do we find you today?

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Right now I'm back in Reefting. Oh wow, here with
Caramea And then we've just judged two in the around
reeft and so yeah, coo part of the country and
we're looking at like twenty three degrees today, So yeah,
has been ploody good, actually.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Has Reefed And help describe restern.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
If you were around fifty years ago and saw rested
still looks like that today, it's just a it's just
a wicked, cool mining town. And and that's the beauty
of the coast. They've all got so much history and
you probably spend more time rubber nicking all the buildings
and the mines that are still going and the rail
network and everything else that happens over here, and then

(14:19):
actually keeping the eyes on the road. So yeah, it's
a it's a pretty wicked town. And during the summertime,
like right now, the kemp of end parks full, and
the amount of kemp of ends we see on the road.
Your tourists just keep this neck of the woods alive.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Is it? Looking over their feed wise in the wads,
Obviously rain's never an issue over that way.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
Funny you say that.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
So we've just got off just literally five minutes ago,
and yeah, they've got two things to pivots, so they
do get dry being in rest. But on the coast,
we're up at Caramea and they've got irrigation up there too,
so there's a what is it longer true la the
true the one that goes sideways. So caram is the
same as a capity coast Wellington, So you are quite

(15:02):
high and you don't get all that rainfall likes of
Hearst and Fox does. So yeah, top top of the
South is quite different, and they had a rough spring.
There's plenty of flooding and plenty of pugging, probably similar
lots south in the head and they're humming the others.
There's good covers and they're looking like the talent of
the season is going to be pretty good.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
So when you're back down south here, because you've had
quite quite a bit of leave over the last month
or two.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I mean your leave might be endeavor it for a
few years now. So yeah, I get back tomorrow and then, yeah,
there's a good time on the farm, though nothing's like
what do you call it? Time critical? So we're protesting
Friday morning when I'm back, and you've got a couple
of petals to get back and grass out of turnips,
and the autumn's going pretty darn good for us too,

(15:47):
like grass covers. You know, we'll be twenty two fifty
sort of covers, and the cows are just making cheap milk.
Just yeah, grass into the vat, which is good at
this time of the year, and we're pushing grass in
front of us. So yeah, it has been a good
time to get away and do these things. And yes,
Al it's good to put back to the community what
you've got out of it too. So I think that's

(16:08):
sort of a stage of life. We're it. You're trying
to put back as much as we got out of it.
And you know, five ten years.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Ago, after the field days concluded, how long did it
take you to get back into a normal routine again.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, it's a funny one. On the Monday morning obviously,
wake up Sunday. You know, it's not really to motivated
the Monday morning you sort of woke up and walked
around not really knowing what to start again, but then
only took a coup layers and yep, you just get
back on the swing of things, catch up the stuff
and we've got a pretty good team. So nothing really
went out astray and he needs to get back into it.

(16:40):
We've tried to make some hay. We've got some haydown
we're trying to get on Friday and harbor of trainers
and bits and pieces. But like I say, it's a
good time for you to be away. There's nothing too
critical and yeah, thing if it goes wrong when you're away,
it was found to day wrong when you were there anyway,
so now you just bet it sorted and carry on.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
So you're all set up for autumn properly.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Here we are. Yeah, yeah, there's really there's really nothing
to too crazy on the radar. A bit of fencing
but a weak control and sort of just keep an
eye on cows body conditions score. Really so we're gonna,
like I said, skiing Friday, it'll tell us their empties.
We won't need to get rid of them, you know,

(17:23):
in the short term with the covers we've got, but
you've got to be mindful that you don't use those
carrot with us. We'll have a care over the empties
and keep on and then your covers drop down and
then you're in a predicament. So well, that'll be the
first to move. And the schedules still looking pretty good.
So you know, as a selop, you might be better
to get rid of your cowls right now and bit

(17:44):
all yours rather than half you milk. So yep, those
decisions to make. And as a whole way, it's looking
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well if the schedule looking the way that it is
at the moment, like you're talking about, Steve, though, if
you want to get rid of your curls, there's no
harm in it.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
No, No, you did right, and you the auction went
up again, and milk price is still going to look
pretty strong. But you you're looking at the next season.
You're not trying to make milk that you haven't already
made this season. They're sort of done and dusted, so
protect next season, yes, milk and the vet looks good
and good pub talk, but it can be detrimental the
next year. So yeah, if you if you're looking like

(18:18):
you're getting a bit lowing past to cover and important
feed is going to be more than what you think
it should be, you get ready.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
You get ready of read meat.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
And kissing the bank, and you don't don't sacrifice and
start the next season by trying to keep KOs on
for too long.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
This season, regarding the GDT result overnight you touched on
it a five point seven percent increase. It's looking pretty rosy.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah it is. And what are we now were now March,
so it's probably looking a little bit rosy for next
season too. So historically, a lot of the milk products
being sold, you know, host Christmas, all this product's being
sold and catered for anyway, so a lot of us
is pushing into next season. It gives pretty good certainty,
you know, not just for the guy putting the cups

(19:02):
on it. It's a certainty around contractors and suppliers and
all the other associated businesses that run with the Darius
farming in general. So yep, it looks pretty rasy for
the next time new months. And he had just try
and take those opportunities to run with it where you can.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Is it as positive as positive as what you've seen
the secretary during your farming career, I.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Would say it probably is. We were pretty positive it
would have been twelve years ago when it was eight
thirty and in comparison, I don't know what they would beat,
could be up around twelve bucks, and then it did
go to three nineties, So that risk is always there.
But as long as you sort of protect that risk
with you know, you've got milk futures out there, you
can opt in for that, so there's a lot more

(19:43):
risk protection out there now. But yeah, I think it
has been positive and we've prob'll be talking three years
in a row now it's been positive, So yes, it's
sound to that question.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
It is.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
We'll obviously scan draft cows in the body condition score preference.
You feed those ones that are early carvers and need
condition score brought up to you know, if we can
drive off at five gets the job done and we
just need to maintain them over winter. And obviously if
it gets a bit weak, we need to look after
pastures too, because I've taken a hiding the last two springs,

(20:14):
so if we you know, pug up more than we
should this autumn, roll through the spring too, so you know,
you just got to keep it on the weather, keep
an on cow condition and yeah, winter comes around pretty
quick and there's not really too much more to it.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
You've got Sweden this year again, haven't you.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah we do. Yeah, all ours on briskers and we've
got grass and bailage for the about fourteen days transition
period before their caves, so that's the plan. Yes, we've
got sixty days for them and then near grass and bailage.
So crops are looking really well. I've I've had a
ripper of a season. We've just sprayed twenty on heats

(20:53):
for a bit of a six and weed pressure. Other
than that, I've been up for the two pist croptive
of the ground and that's purely you know, rainy o
the sky which is creating a lot of grass.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
Now.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Tuesday given us something good in bailage with hitting head
to buy webdon but that's available this year, which is good,
and it's on power with last year the year before past.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Wise too good on you, Steve, enjoy beautiful reef thing
and we'll talk to you when you're back. Down south.
We will, thanks Eddie, Steve Henderson haven't reefed in this afternoon.
People are everywhere these days, aren't they? Why not? James
Burrow is up next from Derry and Z. Then Robin
Greer from PGG Rights in real Estate and Jason Pine

(21:35):
of New Stork ZB talking about the Zelbecks announcement. Welcome back.
This is the muster on Hakanui. James Burrows of Derry

(21:56):
and Z joins us next, based on Alexandra James good
to need how things over in Central Target today?

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Yeah? Good sun shining. It wasn't a frost this morning. Yeah,
a good day any day at the moment that there's
not snow on the hill and there's not frost on
the ground, it's a good start. She wasn't very pleasant
Monday Tuesday she was pretty cool over this way. Not
great for autumn grass growth, but touch wood was sort of.

(22:27):
We might be getting a few more warmer days heading
into the middle of March, so they keep telling.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Us hopefully things warm up like the global dairy trade.
Great figures released overnight, a five point rise of fourth
rise in a row, and another substantial one at that.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
Yeah, nobody can be too unhappy about that. It's definitely
heading in the right direction, and I think we need
to take those wins while we can a bit a
doom and gloom around elections and may perform and whatnot,
So we need to focus on the little things. And
that's well, it's a pretty big one to be fair. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Do you notice that when you're speaking to farmers and
the likes that they're pretty happy with the situation at
the moment, all things considered.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
Yeah, by and part Yeah, largely. I mean, at the
end of the day, it's the milk companies who decide
the whether the payout is going to change and whatnot.
But it certainly provides a bit of optimism going forward,
especially for the conclusion of this season, sort of takes
a little bit of pressure off as we draw down

(23:35):
into autumn and winter.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Now, the dairy in Z Levy vote this closes Friday
next week.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
Yep, it does indeed, yet, so all Levy paying milk
supplies should have been sent a Levy vote pack, So
that would have either been as a hard copy in
the mail or to your email from ellect Vinz and
that should have been recent out this morning. Just a

(24:05):
reminder on that one.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
To you.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
It does close on Friday the thirteenth, next Friday, So
we're just wanting everybody to get out and have their day.
The main main thing we're wanting is people to vote.
That's what we want to see. So you had to
remind everybody it's easier to do online. So yeah, please
get out there.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
And vote now. This is a great chance to show
democracy at place. So if you've got the capacity to
go and vote on this, I seould you just go
and do it? Right?

Speaker 6 (24:35):
Yeah? Yeah, definitely. I mean so he give a lot
easier to vote than what it is to vote for
local elections and whatnot, because it's there's no picking and choosing.
It's pretty straightforward. And if you have any any questions
on any of the information that's provided, there is an
eight hundred darien Z number. There's also a lot of

(24:56):
information on the website, so if you have any questions
about anything, feel free to get in touch with the
local rep the website or to call into the one
hundred serian Z and we'll do our best to answer
both questions for you.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Genetic gain workshops genetics highly relevant on the farm yep.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
No, very relevant. So we've got two genetic gain workshops
happening down in South and one up in North Otago
that I'll be running. So we've got some really neat
host farmers for those doing some really interesting and cool things.
So end of the day, genetic gain is one of

(25:38):
the Well, the genetics is the future, you heard, and
putting a bit of security around your herd is improving genetics.
So anything that we can do, whether it's from full
selection or understanding progeny testing and DNA testing a bit better.
If you're wanting any of that kind of information, come

(25:59):
along for these field days day are the seventeenth and
eighteenth and Southland and nineteenth in Northicago. All that information again,
as I Mederian said, website.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
So people need to enroll, well, just turn up.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
In an ideal world, people would register on the website,
but you can turn up on the day. Registrations are
taken on the day. So yeah, but it's up to everybody.
But an ideal world would have everybody signing up online,
just so we know what we're dealing with when we
turn up.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, let's remember the biggest walk up crowds in the
country go to Rugby parking and the cargo right you
don't pay before you get there.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
No, no, exactly, exactly, that's always the case. But you
don't want to be that person that's left without a
ticket when everybody else is inside and you're sitting outside.
Got to listen from the listen to the commentary or
the screams from outside.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
So auto management, we're starting to see, well, at least,
be honest, the days are shortening right up now, we're
getting into that cycle.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yep, No, definitely. And again there's some really good tools
available on the darien Z website if you go into
the Autumn smart section. So I guess really focusing on
body condition score targets leading into dryoff. We all know
how critical they are for the twenty six twenty seven season,

(27:24):
so we don't want to be compromising on that now.
And again just looking at equa management, attracting good staff
and setting up basically setting up for an easy and
successful winter. It all starts well. It starts back when
you're putting crops and whatnot. But having strategies and plan A,

(27:44):
B and C and place if things don't go well
is critical, so you're not running around panicking. The things
do go pear shaped.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Good on you James always got to catch up with
the team from darien Z enjoy.

Speaker 6 (27:56):
The RVO perfect, Thanks and talk to you later.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
James Barrows of Diary and Zi. Your really relevant point
there regarding crowds going to Rugby Park for example. I
mean you can see that a block of chocolate and
the mail and get people to pre order the attackers,
but they probably just rock up there. That's just the
South i'n persona. But like James said, if you're going
to these workshops as the Likes, always pays just to
put your name down on paper, organizing sussy roles and

(28:22):
the likes. It makes life a lot easier.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Robin Greer is up next from PGG Rights in Real Estate.
The Mark Kelly's going to round out the y hour
talking if you talking about the wars kicking off the
season this weekend. Robin Greer of PGG Rights in Real

(28:45):
Estate joins us next on the muster, Robin, good afternoon.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
How have you been very good things?

Speaker 7 (28:51):
Andy here? Yeah, and enjoying the great smell of weather
and great grass grows and all positive things that are
happening and the province at the moment.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, we just needn't need to knock these frosts on
the head at least for a couple of weeks though.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
Yes, that was a bit of a shock yesterday there
you're going out to shift the head as that was,
to put an extra jacket on. That was a bit much. Yeah,
we got a heap of boiler spail today like this
last while, and it's been really great. Yeah, we caught
up on any growth that we missed out on earlier
on this season.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
That's the thing about the South at the moment, there's
a lot of positive stuff going on. We hear about
the gold mine that it's going to happen at wai
Kaka and the Southern field days have been and gone,
but there were a great success and just a lot
of good news stories to celebrate at the moment.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
Oh, like, Southland's in a great spot. I think in
my thirties through thirty four years here, I don't think
I've ever seen everything as positive as what it is now.
It's really great to see. You know, there should be
so many people benefiting from what's going on at the moment.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, it's just a really good place to be. And
I suppose this just flows on to the real estate
side of things as well.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
Yeah, like that, that's very positive. I guess the biggest
challenge we have at the moment is needing more dairy farms.
To listen, there's certainly people out there wanting to buy
dairy farms. That's been very positive.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Is that the biggest difference you've noticed to say, twelve
months ago.

Speaker 7 (30:20):
Yes, Like there's genuine buyers out there now, genuine buyers
with the resources to do things at the moment. Yeah,
it's very positive, that's for sure. And like you know,
when you look at the auction last night and all
what's going on, you've got no reason not to be optimistic,

(30:41):
have we.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Well, the rise of five point seven percent last night,
it's certainly put dairying up in lights once again. Regarding
the Kiwi economy, yeah, ah.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
Look what it does for the country. Heck, I guess
there's a lot of people just don't appreciate just well
where the country would be if it wasn't for a
diary at then.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah. I think especially in a tiger in South and
the numbers regarding GDP too, we can never understate these.

Speaker 7 (31:06):
Oh it's South and it's always hold more than it's weight,
well far more than its weight, but at the moment
it must be coloss or compared to the rest of
the country. So if you put it on a per
head of population, there's no use in the country would
match us come anywhere near us.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Okay, sheep beef units, what are we seeing there?

Speaker 7 (31:28):
Well, it's certainly positive, but it's not as vigorous as
the dairy thing. Like, if there's someone in the area
that wants to expand, definitely, you know, very positive. But
if there's not someone that wants to expand, you know,
it is a bit of a challenge still.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
So like to somebody who wants to lease maybe four
hundred acres looking at a fattening block or whatever, what
would your words of advice be.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
It's challenging to find lease blocks.

Speaker 8 (31:59):
And three turns the way they are. I'm working on
one that might come up, but yeah, they are challenging
to find because, like you know, you gray head like
me and don't want a farm forever. There's probably I
don't believe there's been a better time to get out,
you know, if you look at land prices and stock prices, Like, gee,

(32:23):
in my farming career forty five years, I don't think
I've ever seen it like this before, well not for
a long long time anyway.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
PGG rights in real estate. If somebody wants to get
in touch if you regarding real estate, what do they do?

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Yeah, they can give me a bell on two seven
four three three two five eight, or certainly look up
PGD wrights in this website. Get in touch with.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Us, Get on your robin noise good to catch up.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
Hey, thanks very much. Andy.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Jason Pine joins US next weekend sporting hosts on Newstorg
ZB Piny Good afternoons, straight off the bat, we have
an All Blacks coach, Dave Riddy has got a gig.

Speaker 9 (33:01):
Yeah, look what you were told I think earlier in
the fact that we were getting towards the conclusion, Andy,
and here we are. Look, it was a two horse race.
I don't think there was any secret about that. It
was either Dave Rennie or Jamie Joseph. And I think
most All Blacks fans, most New Zealand rugby fans would
have been pretty beppy with either of those two candidate. Tandy,

(33:24):
you know, they both come with a good CV, both
with any national experience. Jamie Joseph of course with Japan.
Dave Rennie with Australia. But yeah, look, I think there'll
be a there'll be a general satisfaction in this decision.
Good that they've finally done it as well. I mean,
when we're out to go onto a week four of

(33:45):
Super Rugby, we're a way down the track. There's a
Rugby World Cup next year, so hopefully Dave Rennie has
an up running way to get to get himself sorted
for this year and then make a bit of a
charge at Rugby World Cup twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Did you really think we'd see the day were a
sack Wallaby's coach would be in charge of the old Lacks.

Speaker 9 (34:04):
It's a very good framing of it. No, No, I didn't.
But then again you look at the circumstances around Dave
Rennie's exit from the Wallabies, and I don't. I don't
think history will judge that decision very kindly at all
on the behalf of ragby Australia because of course, of
course they brought Eddie Jones back in and he just
created an absolute dumpster fight which he has since departed.

(34:29):
So look, I think Dave Reddie was starting to get
a bit of traction with the Wallabies. He was clearly
deeply popular with the players, and yes, the result hadn't
gone his way. And you look at the the win
loss ratio and it's certainly nothing to be you know,
to to jump jump around and jump and celebrate. But
I think if you go a little bit deeper, you

(34:51):
find a very solid human being. For starters, you know,
a guy who's who's been involved in the game of
rugby for goodness only how long Jeffers Andy, I remember
when Dave Rennie was the coach when willing to be
in the year two thousand. You know, that's over a
quarter of a century ago. He's been around a lot
of rugby teams in the time since, you know, coach

(35:13):
the Chiefs to success at the start of the twenty teens,
and as I say it, had a lot of experience
both internationally and in club coaching. So yeah, when you
stack it all up, I think it's a very good
appointment from New Zealand rugby.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Well you think about the year two thousand, that's where
willing Toon won the NPC, of course, and yeah you
fast forward to the prison that's a lot of now
sunder the old coaching manner.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
Yeah, and I think that's a too, and he is.
He is very worldly when it comes to coaching. And
if we learned anything from the Scott Robertson era, it's
that you know, that is important. And I'm not saying
that's the only reason it didn't work out for Razor.
There are other factors that play as well. But not
having any experience off shore, you know, there's clearly something

(36:04):
they wanted to remedivate this time around, and in both
candidates and Jamie Joseph and Dave Rennie, they had that
they had coaches who had had coached beyond these shores,
had done it outside of super Ragby, had done it internationally.
I just wonder, you know, whether the fact that Tony Brown,
who had been inextricably linked with Jamie Joseph in the past,

(36:25):
during their time in Japan and briefly at the Highlands
as breath, well, I just wonder whether whether his unavailability
played a little bit against Jamie Joseph. I'm sure that
wasn't the only reason he didn't get the job, But
but Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown together, I think is
a far more compelling proposition than Jamie Joseph by himself.

(36:47):
If you get madrips. So look, we wait to see
who Dave Rennie brings in as his assistance. You know,
that's the next step. Now, which of those who are
currently in the roles you know, left behind by raiser
will be retained. Who will gave Anny want to bring
in to be alongside him. That'll be the next thing.
But yet it's a wide body of work and I

(37:10):
think that is probably the most encouraging thing here.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Is this effectively a free pass for Dave Renny eighteen
months out from the X Ragby World Cup.

Speaker 9 (37:19):
I don't think so. This is the All Blacks Andy,
you know, no free passes here. I think if you were,
if you were taking charge of the All Blacks one
month before the Rugby World Cup, you would still be
expected to win it, you know, So no no free
pass here. It's you know, every All Blacks team is
expected to win every time they play, and that's a

(37:41):
massive ask. If you look at the year ahead, I
mean that the tour of South Africa, four tests, three
of them in the Republic, and then that won in Baltimore,
the Rugby Championship, the New Nations Championship. Of course, there's
a massive, massive body of work I think the All
Blacks play seventeen times in twenty twenty six. Have you
include the midweek matches in on teeth of course, but

(38:02):
the midwek matches in South Africa. That is a massive,
massive year heading into a World Cup year. So no,
I don't. I don't think, not all there will be
any any sense that there's a betting in here. I
think he'll come under the same scrutiny as as any
a Blacks coaching and that and that's and he'll expect that,

(38:23):
he'll he'll he'll mellish that, I'm sure Dave Bruly. So no, no,
I don't think there's any any sense that that there's
a free parts here in any in any sense of
that phrase.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Now it's been a week while now since the departure
of Scott Robertson. What is the future hold for him?
I see he's got a Barber's geed coming up in
the not too distant future. Resci Oraspus has come out
with some very encouraging words. Obviously those two go back
for a very long go back from a very long
time ago. But what happens Theresa now, Oh, look.

Speaker 9 (38:54):
I think he'll find himself his next gig. I'd be
staggered that he doesn't have several of was on the
table already. Andy, He's probably just just trying to work
out when the time is right and which of those
opportunities is the right one for him. You know, Scott
Robertson hasn't become a bad rugby coach. It just wasn't
the right time for him to be all blacks coach.

(39:15):
And who knows. I mean, as you say, if we
can take a bloke who's been sacked as well of
his coach, you know, who's to say we can't even
have a guy come on, who's who's had the job
before and not not worth Look at Wayne Smith, you know,
he came back for a second go in a slightly
different capacity and was very very successful you know, in
the in the Graham Henry and Steve Hanson era. So look,

(39:38):
I think he'll pop up somewhere. I doubt it would
be internationally Initially, I could be wrong. It might be that,
you know, like a team like a Scotland or Italy
or even a Japan. I don't know. Mike quite like
the look of race and that might be quite attractive
to him, and that you know, he would gain a
bit more international experience. Take all of those lessons out

(40:01):
of his two years at the All Blacks and apply them,
you know wherever he goes, be it international or somewhere else.
So look, I don't think Scott Robinson's going to be
out of work for long. It's really I gets up
to him to decide when he wants to come back.
You know, as I say, he'll have offers. It's just
a matter of which one he decides upon.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Good on your pony. Always appreciate your time, and especially
at short notice. It's a big day for All Blacks rage,
but you always appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
Pleasure Andy.

Speaker 9 (40:26):
Let's see how Dave Rennie goes looking forward to the
seeing how twenty six and twenty seven play out with
him at the helm.

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(41:08):
for the afternoon, Piney putting it into context. Here there
the eminent arrival of Dave Rinney is all Lex Coast.
Leave it there for the afternoon. I'm Andy Mure. Thanks
to Peter Genetics. You've been listening to the muster. Enjoyed
the afternoon podcast up shortly? Hey, well I'll right to
have got there and how did he go on again?
PGD write some of stock selling action that occurred at
the Bowcluther sale yards this morning, chatting with Mark called

(41:31):
a good afternoon. How do we go?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Mark?

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, get over and here we go, and you're not
too bad.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Today we had a reasonably big yard and then today
big yard of stall ends. And here the market afflictedly
in the demand that I will get into the prices first.
So the prime they am still going very well. They
finture trying to inflict, trying to see me sucks with
your big top lines through twenty to forty for your
good medium primes in one two hundred for your laughter

(41:56):
and primes, get into the stall ends, your big ports
stores one forty one sixty, your mediums one ten to
one thirty and your tail enders, your spring lambs fifty
one hundred dollars. Under the years at the large prime
YUS they went very well still two hundred and thirty,
two fifty one seventy, two hundred and seventy dollars to

(42:16):
one thirty. For your very lottery news memes, there are
quite a few rams and today they went pretty well
fifty to one hundred and thirty dollars for them, so
that's good. But yeah, the problem market remains strong while
the demanding the store markets east. Today everything's sold the
money for where it should be. So that is us
today in the South Icago. Thank You's be
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