The Muster Full Show: 05/06/26

Andy Muir talks to Jamie Mackay, Geordie Eade, Phil Duncan, Matt Ward and Morgan Mitchell.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nathan evanneath your regional for Joyces once again on the muster,
as he does every Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Giday, Nathan, Yeah, good afternoon, Andy. Beautiful day it is too.
She's a stunner out there, so it's a good day
to be sort of outside and organizing all these cars
on the yard. And look, things are really busy. There
is a lot of new stock coming on. And actually,
I know, probably a few months ago I was saying
we're a little bit light and second hand vehicles. Well,
certainly we're not the case. Now we've got plenty of them.

(00:24):
We've got a huge range of trucks, anything from twenty
twelve sixtieth Anniversary V eight single cab Land Cruis have
just come in the doors of wine red with silver
flares and the full bumper replacement on the front of it.
One hundred and thirty four thousand k's or thereabouts for
fifty nine nine ninety including GST really nice truck just
in the process of getting getting groomed up. We've got

(00:47):
next gen Ranger just come in in the last couple
of days as well, which is that all new shape,
whereas a new one is sort of round that sixty
or early sixties. This one he has traveled about fifty
thousand k's three years old and for forty one nine
ninety including GST. That's a full drive EXLT Diesel in
the latest model. That's a really nice truck in a
sort of a burnt orange sort of a color with

(01:08):
tobar and toftick. So look, there's plenty of them, and
we've we've got Mitsibishi Triton full drive double cab just
coming out on the yard today. I think it's something
like seventeen nine to ninety including GST full drive, flat deck, bullbars, manual.
There'd be a really good truck for the farm for
somebody without outlaying a whole lot of money. We've got
other Tritons coming in too. We've got three or four

(01:30):
high axes here at the moment. We've got navaras, we've
got everything. We got tons of Rangers. But as well
as that, a huge lineup with forty everest here at
the moment as well, ranging from I think thirty one
thousand dollars upwards. So great vehicles for the family, great
vehicle for hocking the boat on or whatever. They tow
really well and yeah, and just really really well priced
so there's plenty of it Andy, So if anybody's around

(01:52):
today or thinking about doing something with the cars, we've
got tons of them for you to look at. We've
got finance on the spot that Cody can make that
really easy for you.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Come on in.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
There's always the doors. Will we open and have past
nine in the morning, pick up the phone if you
can't get in and we'll take care of you.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Good on your Nathan, enjoy the RVO YouTube.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Thanks Eddie.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. My
name's Andy Mueller. We're here until two o'clock, of course
thanks to Peter's genetics. Welcome along to fry yay, and
a really warm one at that too. We'll look at
the forecast sooner and later with Phil Duncan from weather Watch.
But it's looking pretty good for the next seven days.
It continues on Craig straight on to it today anyway,

(02:42):
the late Greater VICI. It's the tunes for a Friday
to give you that Friday feeling.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm tear from and
suft text.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
The proof is in the progeny tear from dot Co
dot in ze, partly cloudy, would like northwesteries and fifteen.
Saturday afternoon showers of breezy westerlyes five and eleven. Sunday
mostly cloudy, we're breezing nor westleys ten and twelve. Good grief.
Monday a little bit of rain with breezy to risk
westerly six and twelve. Tuesday partly cloudy, the breezy westerly

(03:18):
winds five and twelve, and Wednesday mostly sunny, will like
northwestleyes three and thirteen. No sort temperatures to speak of today,
so he cranks straight into it. Jamie McKay and the
Country Crossover. Jeordiyed Farms of the River, Era of the
South talks today about sharing given the crease and wool

(03:39):
over the past month or so. Geordie just talks about
open sharing versus contract sharing and what are you still
a fan of the Vangar press? Phil going in a
weather watch. He gives us a rundown on the weather
for the next seven days and what we can expect
down here in the deep South. Matt Ward, we have
catch up with Matt if you're do on a regular basis,

(03:59):
and more. Mitchell retiring Southman Stagg Morgie's in studio to
talk about finishing up with the Stags and what the
future holds room next, so looking forward to it anyhow,
Without further due, we get on and start the show
next to Jamie McKay and The Country Crossover. You're listening
to the Mustard and it's brought to you by Peter's
Genetics cheer r Backes. Jamie McKay joins us for this

(04:38):
week's edition of The Country Crossover. Good afternoon, Jamie, John
Rolls just for you.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
You're a pest, Andy me, or you're a pest, Well,
you're not meant to be playing, John Rolls on.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
You brought that on yourself.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
We didn't.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
We didn't in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well this isn't the nineties. Times have moved on. You
might just have to build a bridge and get over yourself.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
No, she still owes me to hunt what not? He
does his lawyer or his manager still owes me to
me and PieP at two hundred and forty bucks. Haven't
never forgotten that Andy, it was the principal who.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Was the individual involved? You know who?

Speaker 5 (05:12):
It was? No, some smart ass, as I said on
yesterday show, because it came about completely by accident. We
were playing some sort of music and mus who's a
regular texter from Hawk's Bay, came in with I thought, Jamie,
you'd be more of a John Rolls guy, and that
just sort of yeah, lit a flame and away I went,

(05:37):
I hope I don't get sued, but you can't sue
somebody for telling the truth. And it's not John Roles
probably doesn't even know about it, but as greasy, smart
ass manager, and I haven't forgotten it till this day. Andy,
he was gonna pay, he was gonna pay, he was
going to pay. It was a profit share thing, and
we've done one with John haw grenew I think the
week or two before that he had sold out the

(05:58):
Saint James Theater and ended up a good earner for us.
They win, we win, same deal for John Roles. No one, well,
not as many people turned up. Our share was only
two hundred and forty bucks, and we'd thrown the kitchen
sink at it in terms of advertising. And I'm thinking, well,
the least you can do is pay that, and then
he went, yeah, I'll I'll pay it. I'll pay it.
And I was in charge of credit control and sixty days,

(06:19):
ninety days, one hundred and twenty, and then I ring
them up for the umpteenth time, and he just tells
me to go and get stuffed. And I said, well,
I'm never playing John Roles again on Hokanui Gold. He says, well,
I don't care. It is the shitty little radio station
in Gore. Who cares if you're not playing John Roles?
And I said, well, one day, one day, I might
be broadcasting to a bigger audience. I had no plans

(06:41):
at all in those days, but as fate would have it,
I ended up broadcasting to a bigger audience. And maybe
he might have been listening yesterday in Auckland, I hope.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
So oh you haven't played John Rolls, but I have
Jamie just for you. Look these UF tariffs that have
been proposed from the US government, obviously twelve and a
half percent, because New Zealand is using basically slave labor
for goods produced and from goods that have been produced
in countries overseas. I don't know they're trying to find

(07:09):
loo scenes here out.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
They are absolutely looking for an excuse forced laborers. I
think the word he used, which is rich coming from America.
They basically most of their labor has done forced labor
by Mexicans and South Americans coming up legally or illegally.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
And doing the work there.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Look, he's just looking for an excuse. It's I find
it rather pathetic. I find Trump rather pathetic to be
perfectly honest with the way he's behaving. But this is
he got the PIP because he got blocked through the
Senate or the Congress or whatever, and he's just looking
for another way to impose these tariffs. But once again

(07:48):
you'll note that beef and keyw fruit are immune from
these forced labor tariffs. There's no forced labor in New Zealand.
People come here, people come here RSC workers from the
Islands because they can earn more money than they can
back home, and they can send it to his families.
So no, I don't know how he'll go with this one.
I just hope he can get some sort of deal

(08:11):
done in the Middle East. I'm not holding my breath
on that one. And I don't know whether you caught
up with yesterday's show, Andy, when Jen Corkran from Rabobank
was talking about Michael Avery and the Rabobank Global Team
have changed their forecast. They're saying the strait off a
Moves might not be open till September. Oil could go

(08:31):
from one hundred and twenty and one hundred to one
hundred and twenty. I look, I honestly hope they're wrong,
because this thing's dragging on. Even if it finishes tomorrow,
the lag effect is going to be at least till
the end of this calendar year, probably more.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Trump's in trouble for the midterms, pretty much, isn't he.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
He is in trouble unless well, he's got the mid
terms coming up. He remember fourth of July, he's got
the two hundred and fiftieth celebrations. And I was watching
a bit of Fox News it's almost comedy channel these days, Andy,
and how important it is for him and his ego
that he gets some sort of deal or gets something
sorted in time for these two hundred and fiftieth year celebrations.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Fourth of July.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
And you've got to remember, also, he's got the cycle
or football World Cup beginning what next week is it?
And he wants to display America and all its fineries
with the United States. So he's got a lot of
pressure on him now to cut a deal. But I
don't know those Iranians, they're Nali. I don't think they're

(09:33):
going to give up, and I hope he doesn't just
go in and blow them to smithereens. I don't know
what's going to happen there. There's going to have to
be compromised from both sides to reach some sort of deal.
And then even if they do, you've got mad Netnyaho
bombing the hell out of Lebanon and vice versa, and
that seems to be a part of the Iran US

(09:54):
peace deal. So I don't know. The Middle East is
the most unsettled. It always has been the most unsettled
geopolitical region.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
In the world.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
It's just a shame, Andy, that they didn't put the
oil under Scandinavia or one of those sensible regions and
we would all be happy. But instead it's all sitting
under those nutjobs. In many cases in the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
The only thing that is certain here is the uncertainty.
Now next week, Field Days, you're making the tree cap
with Michelle to Mystery Creek.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, I am.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
I'm a bit of a veteran now thirty years of it, Andy,
I've started going to Mystery Creek about the same time
as I was fighting with John Roll's manager. That's how
long ago. That's how long I've been going. Look, I'm
disappointed you didn't make the cut this year. There were
some media it would be fair to say, some wrangling
in the media over partnerships and all that sort of stuff.

(10:51):
And look, I'm just going up there to do my
job and go home again. But I will be I
will really be looking forward to that. And I think
you were there last year. Weren't you the Rural Industry
Leader's debate.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
No I wasn't. I was on the couch at home.
He came home. Did you not get an invite?

Speaker 4 (11:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I wasn't. I think I was watching cracket on the telly.
You got home and you were just grumpy because the
PEM flogged you off.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
You might want to rephrase that. Okay, oh no, no,
the PM got a good one liner on me. But
look this year, and they had great debating teams last year,
but they've gone up a level this year. They've got
the Prince of the Province as Shane Jones up against
Karen MacNulty. There's Terader Sue's redmain Hamish MacKaye is sitting

(11:36):
in for Tovah O'Brien, and there's Jessica much McKay. So
I can't, as I said yesterday, I can't use the gag.
I was going to use the old Jacinda one liner,
Jessica Tovah, Tovah, Jessica who wants the next question? So
we will get Jessica much mackay there, who's these days
is doing pr I think for a m Z.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
It's a cool event. Michelle's going up for the first time,
So you need to tell the protoco about having to
be at the Bombay four square by set time so
we can get the sex back before you do your
cross with Heather.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
While it's always the same flight up there, we've learned.
I've learnt over the years that you put your feet
into your own hands if you try and fly directly
into Hamilton and then you've got to go on a
it sounds like the shitty little Radio station and Gore
in the nineteen nineties, the shitty Little ATR. But then
you run the risk of fog. That's the problem with
Hamilton at this time of the year. So we just

(12:30):
go direct to Auckland and drive down it's only about
like ninety minutes if you get through the traffic, but
we won't at that time of the day. Remembering that
the airport at hamilton's out by mystery creeks, so you're
twenty or thirty minutes from the airport to get into Hamilton.
So it's just as easy to go and to go

(12:50):
through Auckland and you're dead right six fifteen Tuesday and
Thursday evenings. I have to do the cross with Heather
Duplessy Alan she's on breakfast this week. So it's Andrew
Dickon and our marker for that point for that trip.
As you've found out over the past couple of years,
we need to be at the Bombo four Square to
stop at the top of the hill, do the cross

(13:10):
and get the six pack to get us to Hamilton.
That's one of the highlights. That's one of the highlights
of the trip.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Andy, Well, you've got Big Riley Kennedy on board, so well.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
There we might with Big Riley from Business tesk on
on there. That man is a sponge, he's aged, he
is a legend, and I think the six pack, well,
that would be would be lucky to get him from
the Bombay Bombo four square to Hamilton. But look, I
still enjoy field days, Andy. The only hassle is getting

(13:44):
there and getting back. And then obviously, depending on what
time of the day you go or have to go,
you can spend a lot of time sitting in traffic,
although I think we've got early morning starts with the
likes of a Rabobank breakfast. And then there's the situation
and the MPI, the Soapy report, situation and outlook for
primary industries.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Just finally as well, you'd like to acknowledge the passing
of Pauline Heron.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Look, Pauline Heron obviously well known in Northern South and circles.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
She's stune.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
It absolutely just one of those wonderful people. And I
sent the text to a daughter, Tartis Shallon, and I said,
you know, we should nominate I hope I'm not speaking
out of turn here Pauline posthumously for like a King's
Service Medal, because you know, you get the New Year's honors,
and you see a lot of people Andy getting a
New Year or a King's Birthday honor, and they're getting

(14:40):
recognized for doing a job. It might be an all
Black captain it might be a broadcaster, but they've been
really well paid for doing it. And I think the
best part of the honors system is the community awards,
the Queens and King's Service Medals, because they're actually going
to the people like Pauline Heron who do all the

(15:00):
hard yards in their community. And Pauline's case, she was
a bellfer girl, saw the light, moved to Riversdale. I'm
only joking there, but did so much in that community.
In both of those communities, you know, the community center
of the RSA, you name it, Pauline was running everything.
She's I walked to Milford Track with her two or

(15:20):
three years ago, like she was wonderfully fit. Unfortunately, time
catches up with everybody, and Pauline Heron's passed away, and
I'd just like to pass my condolences on to the
Heron and wider families because she's a wonderful person. She's
it's a life very well lived.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, well you of those sentiments. Jamie Rodio, We'll catch
you again, je Jamie McKay and the Country Crossover. You're
listening to the muster up next away to the River
Era of the South. We catch up with Jordiyed just
a little bit more John Rowles just for Jamie Fly

(16:06):
Welcome back to the muster on Hakanui. It is the
season of the hay and baileach competitions, the Tour Tarpre
District Lions happening this afternoon. Actually three pm is when
they're doing the auctioning. So if you want to get
along to that, you've got a wee bit of time
up your sleeve to get along to Turtar Pri happening
at rap Coo Contracting one thirty four Groveburn Road, and

(16:26):
of course all the proceeds are going back to Hospital
Southland and the Tour Tape Free Ambulance. That's the District
Lions over there. Mlita Tapri. We're away to the River
Era of the South next, Jordi Yd, Good afternoon. I
have you got your sonnies on?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, no, it's just about and it's a bit like that.
It's certainly the last three weeks or months has been
really the river here of the South really. Yeah, it's
a bit scary, but you know, well I suppose we
just take it.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
You'll still temperatures there. You message me last week saying
you can hear the grass grow still the case.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yes, no, that's still the case.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
We we drive off last weekend, so anything that grows
on the dairy farm now it's money in the bank really,
so yeah, it's just unbelievable really to have June like this. Yeah,
we'll wait and see your.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Dairy farm would have just come up no house pretty
much this season, Yeah there is.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah we did. We did record production to finish
the year as well, so that was icing on the cake.
And you in Frontier came out with a good strong
price for next year. And you know, Lamb is very
positive and beef, you know, probably another six years according
to sign Cruelty for the beef, So yeah, positive six years.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
You'll take that, yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, well he's in his eyes there's a seven year
run and we're in near one of it. So yeah,
six years ago. So you know, at that out the
Gate conference he told people that beef was going to
go up last year and some beef. Some people left
that conference and went and bought beef, and they are
going near the year, sitting near this year. That he
was right on the money.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
You'll be grinning like a chesshar cad if you bought beef.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent, because you know they would
have catched in and the where me release. But yeah,
so I think these prices of carbs and not are
definitely going to be that, you know, seven hundred plus.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
They have to be, really, I think the only thing though,
and James Eggert touched on this last week. I'm asking
a few people about this as well. Jordy is regarding
the future of all it's not where it needs to be,
but hey, it's an improvement.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, it is an improvement. But I still you know,
if you're a dairy farmer, I still say if it
was in the dairy industry, you would have wiped it
right out the back door because you know, you got
no time for it. But you know that's the she
and bee farmers. We're passionate and we still hang it
in there. So for it to probably be paying a
bit of pocket money, it's probably a bit of a bonus.
But how it's got a long way to go yet,
and I mean, if it does keep going on this,

(18:41):
a bit of quality will probably come back into it.
But I would have said probably the industry's lost a
bit of quality because of the performance over the last
few years.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
What are you like when you're doing the skirting and
the shed. Are you telling the team there the rouses
and the likes to just do a light skirts or
what do you do?

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I am telling light skirt. But it was quite surprising
at the Beef and Lamb Council meeting yesterday about the
farmers and the group there have gone back to putting
it over a table, which I don't think is quite
the coin and it to be doing that yet. But yeah,
my rowsies just do a light skirt. But you know
that industry too, there's probably not the quality of the
rousies too of what there used to be. It's more

(19:18):
just who can turn up on the morning that gets
the job now, so you know there's not the not
the training for them is what they used to be either,
So you know it's got to go a full circle
really if we're going to up wall prices a wee bit,
but they've got to be better trained too.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I think do you think there's an industry wide problem
around us or wasn't aware of that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:34):
No, I think it is industry wide around there. I
mean the fine walls get set up, they've certainly got
probably good classes they're like we were even talking about
yesterday for the beef and lamb if we wanted. There
was sort of some thought people suggesting maybe some wool
classing workshops we run. Who do you get there's only
one probably less steading of the odd one or two
will buyers and mchayl.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Still, that is a great point you're raised there, and
I think the one that needs to be looked at curiously.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yes, yes, I mean that. You know, if we're going
to start maybe getting seven dollars nor for seven dollars
a kilo for it, you know, we there will probably
start to be a difference of two or three kilos
between a perfectly clean fleece and one that's been roughly chucked,
everything chucked in the press off it.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
You don't even have the table up, second pieces, first pieces,
no such thing.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
No, no such thing of In my whole life career
went from pure omnies. We never even throw it overboard.
It's just there's never been the demand for the quality.
And I mean some people say, oh yeah, that's ten
to twenty cents, but that you play a rousie, you know,
forty forty five dollars an air. You're not going to
get that back.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Just the reality of the nature of the game, I suppose.
But like you say, we're just looking at wall and
I mean, yes, it isn't exactly where we want it
to be. But these positives that we can take from it,
I think that we can disagree on that one a't Yeah, Yeah,
And then.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I would say probably the positives is the shares have
got better. There's no doubt about that. The shares have
got really good at their job. And I, you know,
I get on really well for sears. I still do
open shear, and I still press, you know, and get
on Muslim and enjoy the occasion. But yeah, probably the
Rousey side of things is were we've probably been let
down of. It is not the training for those younger
ones coming into the.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Tell me you've got an old vanguard for a priest,
not a trendless prissy.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I ever been guard and I double being it, so
I consistently get those within or that one hundred and
eighty hundred and eighty five. Yeah, So it's yeah, one
of the old school. I don't think there's too many
bitter still around, but at least it's a big advancement
on the crank.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Be honest, how often have you priced the pins?

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Ah? Hell, I've nearly never done it in my life.
I've always sort of the pins. But every employee I've had,
I think they've had one go at doing the pins.
So yeah, so I have got pretty good at straightening them.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Well, it's in nature of the vista, suppose, and it's
a right of passage almost in a wallshet. But before
the days of having to just use the pins to
tighten up the bailor your head to sew everything, Oh yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
And that's when I was a teenager. I was just
coming around and learned to sew as well. The cats,
So you know, the advent of the club some of
the cats on the that was a big up. You know,
you could actually really cover some ground pretty quite fast
and you don't have to throw the top up.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
So is it a bit cheaper when you're doing it open,
so you're supplying the meals and the likes I take it.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, it's about dollar a head for us itself. So
you know, if they're doing a three stand shed, you
do nine hundred to one thousand, it's sort of you
saving themself one thousand dollars a day, which years is
still probably, you know, if it's in the whole picture
of things, it's still you know, if you've got seven
or eight days sharing in the whole year, it's still
seven or eight grand at the bottom line, What about yourself?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Have you've done much time on the hand piece and
all journey or just what you need.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
To No, I've just done what I need to on reasonably.
I'm pretty good at crutching. I can keep up with
pretty good at the Crutching's a lot of sharing. I've
just really had to do what I've had to do, really,
but I enjoy it. I'm pretty good at bellying because
over the years of having to do that for the works.
But you know, in terms of sharing, I'll leave that
to the professionals.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Well, what's upon a time when the bellying premium came out,
it was just one strip down the middle and that
was that. But these days it's pretty much the whole
belly's got to come off, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Well, something I did see I might be alliance. So
back to the one strip this year, which I was
surprised because idea that came out about twenty years ago,
that one stripes a racing strike. Really what you called it.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
But yeah, so that's all there after, now, didn't You're
not too worried about the rest of the rest of
the wall.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
No, not after, not all of it at all. But
you know, sply blue sky, you don't have to take
anything off off it, So that's the way to go release.
You can serve your body and everything full stop.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, oh well that's certainly I'm a saving grace. Okay,
it's coming up to the weekend. Are you getting of
it a time my farm or what's the game?

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
I not really No, I've got cows here, three hundred
old coals here. We've got a new employee, so sort
of just working. The given him weekends off, so he's
working all during the week and they give the weekends off,
lay the day off, you stay off the beef lam Council,
RDP and gore so here, so kids sport over the weekend.
But other than that, whether forecast looks good going forward
to the next week, so yeah, there won't be much
done other than the stockwork being shifted at the weekend

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of due course.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Though you're not nothing wrong with that, Jordy. Hey, good
on your mate, we'll catch up again. You have a
good weekend you two any years think Jordy aid, it's
the self proclaimed rivery era of the South, which is Riverton.
This is the muster on Hakanui. What is the river?
What is the weather doing at the river Era? For
the next week, let's ask Phill Duncan and weather Watch next.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Live.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
You remember this is the muster on Hakau Time to
catch up with full Duncan out of weather Watch coming

(24:50):
up five years and five years of Alanas Morris said
on the muster a full Duncan of weather Watch, the
premium weather presenter of New Zealand.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Get a thank you, Hello, good to be with you.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
It's good to catch up mate. Look it's so it's
bamie almost for four hour. I was going to say summer.
It feels like summer. We're only a couple of weeks
out from the winter solstice aka the shortest stay thill.
Are we going to see a change of this weather
system because it is unseasonally warm and eerily warm. Yeah
it is.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
It's certainly mild across the country and we've seen you know,
Wellington broke their June maximum record. They got to nineteen
degrees both on June first and June second warmest that
they've ever been in June since records began. And part
of the reason for that is we had a high pressure,
very strong, high precious system out east of the Chatham Islands,
and because it was such a large system, it was

(25:39):
pulling down all this subtropical air followed by low pressure
leaving Australia, which is doing the same thing, and it's
doing that today bringing down this warm and northerly flow
across New Zealand. Now well changed this weekend. We get
a colder change this weekend and in fact, you guys
in Southland get brushed by the polar boundary, so that
means there'll be a little bit of snow on the
mountains and a temperature drop the windshill. You'll notice that

(26:02):
going into the weekend, going through Saturday in particular and
Sunday morning. But yeah, the overnight temperatures are not that bad.
I mean that they go down. The lowest temperature is
three degrees on Wednesday night next week and the warmest
overnight low is ten degrees which is this Sunday.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Ten degrees overnight low.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
Overnight low is ten maxim members eleven on Sunday and
then the overnight low is ten, so that's you know,
that's again the Northwest are picking up on Sunday night
before the next cold change comes through on Monday with
a little.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Bit of wet weather.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
But yeah, it's very mild. It's mild all over New Zealand.
And we've had this incredibly settled May, which from a
nationwide point of view is very calm. We have yet
very few severe weather warnings issued and it was just
a very dry month in most regions, drier than normal
and many many places. And now we're getting a bit

(26:57):
of a change. We're getting low pressure out of Australia
just brought a whole lot of rain and thunderstorms across
Australia and some severe gales as well. But that low
is falling apart as it moves over the South Island today,
so we've got it's it's a bit of a woozy
kind of autumn going into winter. And because these always
talk about our Nino, wondering now how much that's playing

(27:20):
a role in the weather that we're getting, because our
Nino tends to encourage more high pressure in the Tasman
Sea and that's not always a warm place to put
it because we're on the west, the southwesterly wind side
of high pressure when it's parked in the Tasman but
if it's a little further northwards, and they have been late,
they've been centered north. In fact, without a high pressure

(27:40):
system at the start of this week that was up
right up near Fiji, which is unusual, and it does happen,
but it's unusual, it doesn't happen very often, and so
we are getting a bit of a change. And so
while with our Nino, you measure the sea temperatures at
the equator north of Tahiti and so in that area
it's much warmer than average, and west north of Vanuuatu

(28:03):
it's cooler than average. And what that tends to do
is create more high pressure around eastern Australia northern New Zealand,
and so we get a lot of west to southwest
winds with al Nino. That's what causes the trout because
the rain getting pushed into the west coast and not
much getting over into the east coast. And at the moment,
I think because we're in neutral still, we're not officially

(28:24):
yet in al Nino, but we're getting the building blocks
starting to show up, and I think that's part of
the reason why we've had fairly settled weather with these
highs crossing us, and also not a lot of really
polar weather coming into us, not yet anyway one to solve.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So, Sam, what are we looking at? Are we starting
to getting cooler in a couple of weeks spans.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
Right now? My mat that I'm looking at goes out
to the twentieth of June sound round about then, and
that forecast looks a little bit ol Nino like where
you've got high pressure building around Tasmania, and it looks
like maybe a polar change coming into the South Island.
But a lot of leagues, so west coast heavy rain.
Southland gets clipped by some of that, especially coastal parts

(29:05):
of Southland. It fades up more as you go into
northern Southland, but the temperature is going down, so we
are getting a variety of weather. But that same weather
map also shows heavy rain for the North Island and
low pressure before all that coming through. So I think
western areas are likely to get more rain and eastern
areas are likely to just perhaps see more of a dry,

(29:27):
dry sort of theme coming through.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Are we going to get unseasonable winds at the moment
as well, does that come into the equation with us.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
I'm not really seeing anything too out of the ordinary
at the moment. With the wind there is, like this
time of year is usually windy, especially autumn. The autumn
side of things been pretty quiet this year. But the
high pressure zones are very powerful. Some of the one
that's forecast Monday, the fifteenth of June is expected to

(29:55):
be once ten forty four Hector pascals east or southeast
of you guys, so between sort of the Chatham Islands
and Stuart Island, but a little bit further to the south.
Now that's still a long way out. That could still change,
but the fact that the modeling is saying, you know,
ten forty four Hector pascals, that's really it's a powerful

(30:15):
high pressure system and that's about about as strong as
they get in New Zealand. And so when you've got
big highs like that, it can be very windy around
the outer edges of it. So we could get some
wind and we could get some easterlies. I think at
the moment, you know, when we talk about our Nino,
that's based on what we know from the past and
we haven't had loads of our nino that you've got.

(30:37):
You know, it's not like we've had one hundred ol
Nino events and we can go through all the data
and go, this is what happens. We've had, you know,
in our lifetimes, a handful or two, and so you've
got limited kind of data on that. And New Zealand
has very limited data anyway, because we commercialize it, we
don't make it public so much, and that means we
actually don't really learn a lot from these events. And

(30:59):
on top of that, the world is warming up, so
you've got a warmer ocean and warmer air around us,
and that could really change what our neino means. It
could be a positive thing because it could mean we
get better chances of rain. That's what usually happens when
it's warmer. So I do still see more variety coming
through this month. I think we're going to be another

(31:20):
month away before we can really kind of get a
feel for what our nino might do, because I think
it is likely to be happening. I think the modeling
is pretty certain of that, pretty sure of that, but
whether or not it actually is as bad as previous
ones or some sort of hybrid you know, that's what
we're not really sure of. And I'm noticing that even
Niwa or Earth sciences in New Zealand are saying similar things.

(31:43):
You know, they used to be quite ahead of these
events and that be quite certain of what was going
to happen. I've noticed that their language around this is
similar to mine, which is that there's a little bit,
you know, it's a little bit murky water on this one.
We're not really sure what it means for New Zealand.
Maybe we'll have to wait until it's formed officially for
us really be able to know a bit more.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Phil dun Can, always appreciate your time. Good Night Seattle.
Remember Phil Duncan. I were to watch Fraser Crane reference
there Mad Fraser fan is Phil Duncan and weather Watch
go and follow him on social channels as well. Does
a fantastic job regaining the forecast for Southland up next

(32:22):
matt Ward and before the end of the year with
Morgan Mitchell retiring South and Stagg time.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
My father to me.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
So wiggy and when he.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Where am I?

Speaker 1 (32:44):
This is the muster on Hakanui mett Ward Farms at
Morton Mains and joins us this afternoon, on this mild
once again afternoon here in the deep cell. We keep
saying it, Matt, but this is certainly the start to
June that a lot of people would like for their stock.
Good afternoon, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Good, Andy, how's it?

Speaker 5 (33:01):
God?

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah, it's it's good, isn't it? Jesus good? It's I
got on. I transitioned my yews on to crop there
a couple of weeks ago, just trying to make the
most out of the fine weather. And it's still it's
still sunny, Like Jesus, it's good. Yeah, No, definitely nothing
to complain about at the moment.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Hoggets waite know what matters?

Speaker 4 (33:19):
No, No, No, that grass wintered actually, so that I was.
I was sort of well, I don't get too worried
about it, because they don't need a hell of a
lot to keep going through winter. But the amount of
grass that's threshening up in front of them, so I
need to start thinking about putting some fences up in
front of them. And yeah, tidying peedic's up a bit better,
I think.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
So do you put any winter crop in?

Speaker 5 (33:41):
It?

Speaker 1 (33:41):
All matter? Everything's just on a grass system.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
No, I've got I've got swedes in for my us,
all my user on crop for about sixty seventy days,
so they're all transitioned on hoggets are grass wintered, and
then my kettle were in the wintering shed, so it's
all yeah, all pretty safe. Really. I almost one regret.
I've almost got with putting my maintenance firt on there

(34:04):
six weeks ago. I would have loved to now, in hindsight,
would have been good to put a wee bit of
en on with it as well and just push a
bit of feed through into spring. I think would have
worked a treat, especially the way it's all temps. They're
holding up and were still ground seven in Klos was
it a couple of weeks ago, So it's still still
grind at a good rate for us, and yeah it's
good ground tradition. You can't complain. My swedes were a

(34:25):
precision drink drilled this year too, and jeez, there's no mud,
the bulbs are out of the ground and utilization through
the roof and it's and everything's looking really good.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
So how heavy would you corup your swedes?

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I was bought in in a half ton, which on
beck a ton. This is the first year precision drink
drilling them. So I'm beck a ton on normal, but
I've still got like a twenty day surplus in them.
Like I don't need big swede crops. I sort of
put in enough ground to kick me. My goal was
to put in enough ground to have like ten percent

(34:58):
renewing each year. So as long as I sort of
hit that, then yeah, the swedes are just a bit
of a bonus to.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Be fair tended to get some lambs for that spring contract.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah I am to be. I normally carry through about
one hundred hundred and fifty lambs through the winter and
still a one hundred and twenty one at the moment,
and that due to go next week, just to cash
in on them. But oh yeah, I'm sort of The
money's good and all, but I sometimes get worried about

(35:30):
that feed come early spring, Like I sometimes wonder if
I carry my lambs through again, like I saying on
my hogits the grass winter, so I try to have
a bit of feed there and at the start of spring,
and if I'm tight, it just jeopardizes those years milking
at the start and that can impact next season. So
it's I think I'm gonna cut my losses on my
lambs next week, I still have any dry hoggits will

(35:51):
go straight to the works and they, jes I'll kill
like twenty four twenty five kilos normally, So that's sort
I sort of treat them. Any drygs is my winter
lambs anyway, Andy, Well.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Let's face it, I mean over two hundred dollars ahead
is what you'll be getting. I mean you can't lose
on those figures.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
No, no, no, not at all, Like I'm everaging to
twenty two hundred and twenty dollars over everything for the season.
So you put those winter lambs on top of it, well,
those Troy Hoggetts on top of it, like it's yeah, no,
it's good money.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
So what did you badge it on for the season?

Speaker 4 (36:26):
I was working on a ten dollar lamb, so what
would that be? Would that be about two hundred bucks
or sort of veraging on? So I'm over. I'm over
in the because I've had this re clover and two
my lambs have been yielding a lot better. I'm about
about a kilo up carcass weight over everything than what
I normally am is well, just because everything's been killing
out so well loft that clover. So it's yeah, it's

(36:49):
paid its way massive, like a kilo, a kilo over
everything on a ten dollars ten dollars seventy ten dollars
eighty might even be more than that.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Might it just keeps going.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, yeah, like it's a lot of money. Yeah, so
it's yeah, so that paid its way pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Now, Beef and Lamb's Southern Farming Council. You're a member
of this. We spoke to Jordia Yid earlier in the hour.
How are you finding it?

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yeah, no, I'm really enjoying it. Yeah, no, I'm really
enjoying it. Im. We had an RDP build there yesterday
and I've got quite a lot just the more learning
from me. How they go. They plan out the year
and went up to the Farmer Council conference a couple
of weeks ago and out the gate and oh yeah, no,
it's good, it's good. I'm not, to be completely honest,
I'm not sure what I'm offering, but I'm getting a

(37:37):
hell of a lot out of it. Just the people
you meet. And I've been always been a big fan.
I put yourself in a room of all those smart
people and you get You're getting quite a lot out
of it. So that's been it's been really enjoyable.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Has governance something you consider.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Yeah, it is. It is down the track, Yeah, it
is down the track. Once I get everything at home
sorted first, I do. I do want to, especially after
doing my Keloord, Like we got to through the whole
kell Ord process last year. We got to have a
good insight into governance and what it's about. And it
does sort of spin the wheels a wee bit. I'm

(38:11):
not sure whatevenue i'd go down just yet, but Yaada
is definitely something I want to look into in the future.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Eden d Rugby, you're the manager on the sideline there
and your my mo must say, a spectacular hat when
you're at Pioneer. What was that hat you've got on?
Something from nineteen eighty two?

Speaker 4 (38:29):
My head? That's a good I couldn't tell you what
I was.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Were the hat just stuck out on that tull frame
of yours?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Yeah, yeah, well he does stuck out above the clouds.
But yeah, going, we're going good. We're taking Albion to
Materire actually tomorrow we've got a home your home game tomorrow,
but we're going to take it to Mataire to support
a few of the Materia boys. We have an air
team and support the Materira club too. We've always had

(38:57):
a good, good rivalry with them, in a good connection
between the clubs, so it'll be quite cool to take
a home game home game there. And we've got Big
DT's fiftieth game tomorrow too, and he's he's a Blazer
player from the Tire as well, so it'd be quite
cool to see him run out on as well what
used to be is home home field playing his fiftieth
game for us as well, so i'll be yeah, special
moment for him. Then. I think we might have five

(39:19):
or six boys in a team that have played for
the Tear in the past, so it'll be quite a
cool moment for all those Fells.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
You congratulations that Eden Dell just helping out the Sale
clubs and all the best of the Terror to Murray
Matt always going to always appreciate your time as well.
Enjoy the weekend.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, no, good man, anything, you very much for that,
Matt Ward.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
There based on Morton Mainz you're listening to the master
before you wrap up. Morgan Mitchell retiring south from Stagg
and Studio. We have a chin wag. Welcome back to
the muster, Morgan Mitchell. I fare to say he's a
Stagg's legend and he's decided over the PAS week or

(40:00):
so that the time has come to hang up as
boots after eighty two games for the Stags a couple
of years over in Japan, he's still going for the
barber's mind, Joe, and that's why it's going to be
for the foreseeable future. Morgie. Great to catch up once again.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
Hey, thanks for having me on and looking forward to
having a good convo with you.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah. Look, you've achieved a lot over your career. It
goes back quite a while now to when you make
your Stags debut in twenty fourteen. I suppose when you
look back and you just you're in that reflective state
of your career at the moment, and you've achieved quite
a bit, to be fair.

Speaker 7 (40:33):
Yeah, as soon as I've announced that I was going
to retire or actually yeah thought thought a lot what
I've done past of my career, never actually done that before,
and yeah, amaze, some amazing memories and lifelong friends and people. Yeah, no,

(40:54):
I'm very proud what I've achieved and what I've done. Yeah,
no regrets. It's been a hell of a chapter, just
another chapter on the book. So yeah, we grateful for
self and eveyone really who has helped me you.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, so no regrets on the Stags jersey. Nothing if
you could go back and change anything.

Speaker 7 (41:18):
Oh yeah, a lot to win more games when that
tough period was. But nah, I thought we did selphone proud.
Just keep wearing it for that jersey with pride, so
that's all you could ask for. It was tough, but yeah,
I wouldn't have I wouldn't change the jersey.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, that lane, that lane run. It was a few games,
was it hard to stay motivated?

Speaker 7 (41:44):
I think we just got caught and that losing stroke
and we just couldn't get the monkey off our back.
And yeah, we were just going through that cycle of
rugby selflon. Yeah, nothing was really coming through. But they're
in a great place now. Got some young talent comes through,
We got some guys saying on and we've got some

(42:06):
older guys still there. So that's what sort of helps
the wheels turning. You know, the young ones coming through
put their pressure on the old guys. You can't beat that.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Well, that's one thing that Southam has going for it,
and a lot of us to be feared as down
to boys high in their system going through and all
these likes of making all the AENA for example, these
younger players coming through the ranks and there's some real talent.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
Yeah, he's definitely one of them, and there's a few
more others too. So I'm actually looking forward to watching
them on TV and see how they go. So it'll
be quite cool.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Oh you'll be on the terrace, won't you.

Speaker 7 (42:39):
Yeah, bloody, So we'll be having a space.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I haven't no other way because you look back in
your career straight away and the first thing I think
of is likes of they're pretty shield last year that
comes to mind, right, I mean that must all for
Infinity's sake, for like yourself and the team, and you'll
think of anything and everything that comes that was that
you got the ten year anniversaries and the likes to
look forward to.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
Oh yeah, they just really topped off everything just what
we've been through with cellphone, just more for the appearance
what they've been through. It's more of a thank you
for them, for everyone fans and everything. So yeah, it
was a very much highlight of the career. I never

(43:28):
knew how big it was until you won it, so yeah,
it was pretty special, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Were you involved with the team when they came close?
I think it was twenty fourteen they drew a Hawk's
bay is that right? Yes?

Speaker 7 (43:39):
I was there, but I never got on. But yeah, no, Yeah,
I've been involved quite a few of them, but never
quite corrected until it last one. So like you said,
last one comes when it met us, so absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
So how would you describe the Stags fans?

Speaker 7 (43:56):
Probably the beast in New Zealand. That's we can well,
they just turn up, we can weak out no matter
what the weather or who are we playing. Yeah, it's
pretty special, pretty special province. Southland's got.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, because I went to Real Sport before the Stag
Day last year and you couldn't get a Stag's jersey
at Rebel they were all gone. And by the sounds
that you would have heard all this anyway, But the
amount of apparel that Southland sounds sounds our salves around
the country is second or none.

Speaker 7 (44:29):
Even when you go away play away games, sometimes we
out numbered them, you know what I mean. Just yeah,
It's crazy how many Southland does are out the province,
but they still turn up with this deg jersey on
and they all i mean they don't know each other,
but they all try and get into a group, and

(44:50):
so you can't beat that.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, now you're working for a rural livestock you're a
stock agent. These days, it sounds as that's going pretty good.
So I mean this honest, The industry is on a high.
But nonetheless, when you were going into your last year,
it would have been a new thing to do.

Speaker 7 (45:07):
Yeah, absolutely loving it. Yes, like a bit of a
rugby game. Every farmer thinks differently. It's like another team,
you know, we prep up and then change tactics and
play play the team. So farmer he farms differently, so
got to work around him and make the best best

(45:29):
thing for them. So yeah, it's very awesome, lovely people
out there. Yeah, actually loved working with farmers. Wanted to
want to be a farmer, but yeah, I can't beat
this job. It's pretty pretty cool, pretty cool to see
people out there.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
And the thing about south Ward cockies, you're not backwards
and being forwards either.

Speaker 7 (45:50):
You'll learn that, correct they Yeah, no, that's they are
special people. Yeah, yes, yes, special people actually.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
So you're playing for the Barbers Eastern Northern Barbarians and
so that'll continue for the foreseeable future. You're still going
to be involved.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I'll finish off this season. Hopefully
we finished off on a high, and you know, we'll
see what happens. Yeah, we're going to focus on the
job and yeah, it's just chapters close and open up
another chapter. So yeah, looking forward to it. But still
got four more club games ago and then hopefully see

(46:31):
me some finals. But yeah, not camping the Ducks yet,
so we'll just take it week by a week.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
So it's a case of getting the gal rope would
really top things off you you reckon, you could leave
the game on a high.

Speaker 7 (46:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that will be very nice if we
do get it, just to sign off everything. Yeah, but
it'll be what will be when we come to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Just finally Morgie as well, because you've had issues with
your hearing over you area as well and basically deaf
and you've overcome that as well. What's that been like
for you?

Speaker 7 (47:07):
It was it was very tough at the start, but yeah,
credit to my stubborn stumbatimes, but yeah, I've overcome it. Yeah,
you just got to get over that first part and
then your way laughing. So that's what I put it down.
Yeah it was tough, but here I am now loving life.

(47:28):
Ye can't beat it.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
So it worked out pretty well.

Speaker 7 (47:31):
Oh yeah that's it. Yeah it's pretty special. What's the
technologies out there? So not only just me as people
people around New Zealand, around the world get to hear.
So no, it is pretty special to be one of
those people too, So yeah, it is what it.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Is, absolutely right I mate, we'll leave it there. Thanks
for coming in on behalf of all Stags fans. Thank
you for what you've done for the Golden for the
Golden is on the tip left it, and yeah you're
going to be You're going to go down yourself on
folklore for what you've achieved for the Jersey and you've
got a job to do for the barbers tomorrow. So yeah,
all the best for the rest of the season.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Mate.

Speaker 7 (48:07):
Nah, awesome, Thank you very much. Thanks for the people
who help me. They know who they are, you know,
it's a mess of thanks even one in you. Thanks
for havving me on and looking forward to what the
future brings in you.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Thank you feel that way, Laugh.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Out loud with ag proud because life on the land
can be a laughing matter.

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Great to catch up with Morgi Mitchell, wishing him all

(48:53):
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