June 7, 2026 • 47 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jamie King, Eric Roy, Ben Dooley, Richard Kyte and Greg Erickson.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. Andy
Muer here until two o'clock and of course the show
is brought to you by Peter's Genetics. Welcome along to Monday.
It's cold and gore, let's be honest about it. Although
it's still nine degrees which is pretty good. It's just
a bit cooler than what we've experienced over the past
week or so. But looking at the forecast it has
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short lived. But like I say, if you're coming into
town this afternoon, put the jacket in the wagon. You
might need it. It was a good weekend. Grassroots Rugby
went along to Belfer Wyndham played Belfer. Tell you what,
grassroots rugby, there is absolutely nothing better at the moment.
I mean you look at Super Rugby. You've got four
Kiwi teams in the semis. That's great, but it's not
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doing a lot for Australian rugby at the same time.
Or is it meant to be doing anything for Australian rugby?
Is it is its responsibility? But Grassroots Wind against Bouth
a great game. Coincidentally, thanks very much to Matt and
the windhom guys for beving me going up to the
Lando Marine on the window bus. It was an awesome
night out the sudden Seal and South and Sharks continued
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their juggernaut ways, but the black Cats not getting the
job done on a dodgy pit over at Lord's Pitch. Sorry.
And the problem is is when you look at you
seeling going the black Caps going over to the Boxing
day test at the MCG so, I don't know, it's
a bit of a concern for me. It's a bit
of a mindset. I don't know. Celine Dion as well.
(01:31):
There's always the first time for everything. A couple of
weeks ago was Michael Jackson today for one of our guests, Celine.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Dion Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm teff from
and soft text The proof is and the progeny teff
rom dot co dot inz.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
This afternoon, Raymond breezy to brisk sell westerlies west sall
westers that is in twelve Tuesdays sunshine were breezy westlies
three and eleven. Wednesdays Sunday with variable wins one and thirteen.
Thursday party cloud to me like Northerlei's eight and thirteen
and Friday morning showers of calm, variable wins once again
three and eleven, so Tambages Clinton eight point two, Herriet
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eight point three, Northern Southland nine, Riverton ten point five,
tianw eight point eight, Winton seven point nine and Woodlands
at nine point one. Jamie King of Lake Heroco starts
us off from the Southern Farming round up Thaksa Sageant
Dan Stop Foods talking about the bull selling circuit. Eric
Roy talking politics and the Labor Party. Where are they
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going to release some policy? I mean they brought up
their list today, the numbers there, So when do we
start seeing spiritual policy from the Labor Party? Ben Dooley
sheep beef and YouTube farmer or do we call them
a social media influencer? A sevy album deals and find out.
Richard Kite out of Thriving Southland has a chat and
then Greg Erickson, our Canadian correspondent, talking about the Aberta revolutions,
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Well not really but referendums. Why do they want to
become an independent state away from Canada? It south So
I'll start the old next to Jamie King. You're listening
to the Mushroom til two o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics
seven after one Jamie King Farms of laker Oco and
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joins us in the Satin Dam Farming ground up, thanks
of course the Sergeant d and sockfoods. Here on the
main street of Gore. We speak to different farmers around
the Southern province each and every Monday.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Get a Jmie gooday, mate, what a tune for a Monday?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You rate it?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Depends on suppose mate, it was a good song.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I suppose that day.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
But yeah, what we call it?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But yeah, yes, Well, once upon a time, Eric Rois
said some of the music I played was okay, but
he was a fan of Selean Dion, so I thought
I'd just played ball for Eric. I never played Michael
Jackson before ten days ago on the show either.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Oh look at yougo, mate, it's any there.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Absolutely, Hey, we catch you on tour today. You're where
are you at? A kai kura?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yet? I'm the start getting into corcor on the lot
of road, just tacking around, heaving look at some some
here for some sables, because obviously we've got some redges
to Hereford. So yeah, just sort of SARTs tugging the
ball season and then getting through them and having squiz
around the country. You see what everyone else is up to.
It's been really strong obviously off the back of a
very strong meat schedule and looking really very positive going forward.
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So now it's all pretty good mate, and me personally
know I had a good, good day of full clearance,
no big money, but clearly everything for a very good average.
So really happy boys. So it's good to see people specing,
besting in a bit of positive around the whole industry
made it's it's really good to see for a change.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Was that the key thing you took away from the day, Jamie,
people just talking about farming, giving a smile on their
face when they do as well, because there's been a while.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, I suppose this old person so but cheapers about
partying heads up too far. But just at the moment
we're going good end. You know, we've needed this. We've
been getting, yeah, getting in the bottom of dole drums,
getting kicked on the backside for you know, the last
couple of three years. So it's good to see a
bit more, a bit more steady optimism, I would call it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, and just across most of sectors as well, depending
on who you speak to. Yes, war hasn't been flashed,
but hey, it can't be any worse than what it's pain.
And you're starting to get more than a couple of
twenty four pegs.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
For your for your clip too, oh one hundred percent, mate,
And everything's sort of paying some paying some money, you know. Yeah,
so and even on a huge genational level what the
government coffers, you know, there won't have been a lot
of great deal of tax being paid out of the
egg cecutor while the read meat sector in particular the
last two or three years, so they'll probably been for
a couple of good years possibly going forward. So it's
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all going to help the economy a bit, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So what about yourself? You're pretty positive going and head
looking twelve months into the future.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Perhaps yeah, I under think, well we've got to mate,
But yet now everything's looking pretty rosy again. Look, you know,
four casts out six eight months and sort of you'll
probably stop chewing your fingernails wondering how long it's in
a last. But it seems to sort of found a
bit of a bit of steadiness on that note that
don't I don't think it can afford to for a bit,
because yeah, there was we'll all have nothing to do. Yeah, no,
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no really looking looking forward to the next next twelve
months anyway, any for sure?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So how did you land budget finish up this year?
I dare say you would have been in the positive?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah yeah yet no note for sure for sure yet No,
we're well well, into're the positive. On that note, I have.
We have spent plenty two but sel story when you're
going to play to catch up a bit more ferret
and a couple of pieces of infrastructure and of plant updated.
So yeah, you know we're going real good, Yeah, real good.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So how's the start of winter? Being a Laker Roco?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Outrageously good? Like I said, I haven't been here for
the last couple of days, but like from so we
got those for you already frost and it was a
little bit no, where's this going to go? And then
it's sort of here would happen if I had a
pettic of cultivator ground signed down in the winter? Cereal
well in the lower and valley Mate, we don't really
genuinely put a plow on the ground in May. But
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I got away, thank god. So really good. Has got
wet underfoot the last week.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Though, outurageously good that's not something you hear very often.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
No, no, and it's some of my crops probably not
quite up to scratch. So it's been a blessing in
the skies. I see we're talking about nel Nino coming in,
so we could have been for a bit of a
wet to winter. But at the moment we'll just take
you for as it comes and box on.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So your colors are looking up to party, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yep, yep. No, we're just yeah you. We're just jogging along,
just nice in a real good, good place at the moment.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Right, I've got to throw this one at you, Jamie Counsel.
Amalgamation has been all the talk recently. What do you
make of all of this? What's your preference?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Blah, not too phase mate. I mean they're all sharks.
I've all got their hands out. I've got my owner
shoes with districtfications and roading. But some pieces, if they
all make, the best thing we see is get rid
of some of it fringing Maine that gets gold up
and all the Edmond and horse crap. What that would
be the result. It's the one good thing to come
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of it, and that'll be probably what they're steering towards
but if it happens or not, good Lord only knows.
But yeah, I don't know. It'd be nice to get
with some bureaucratic bureaucratic stuff from in the middle, But
then some of those people have to go and get
real jobs, won't they.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So in other words, you're trying to say mainstream, just
trying to streamline services provided.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
One hundred percent. Yep, just mop it up. We've got
a hek of a slip on our road, mate, It's
been there for eight months and yeah, like between council
and contract there's there's just nothing being done with it.
It's absolutely the headache. And there's them currently forty log
trucks going over every day.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
How often do you see a greater on your road?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Not probably Well, generally it's pretty good, but we've got
a lot of long traffic at the moment, so it
probably needs to be up kept that we get on
the phone and bring the people that do it and
say chop, chop, get you gone, because the road is
an empty of abortion like it is at the moment.
But yeah, it's just I know, we seem to get
forgotten about. In the Beaconoma spokes all population based, isn't it.
(09:04):
But hell, Andy, we pay your rates too, mate.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Do you think perhaps the owners should be on the
logging companies and these vehicles that are putting extra weight
on these country roads to be paying a bit more.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I used to know that those logging companies they pay
rates on all their land too, so you know, like
it's we're all in the same pot. So it's still
at the council level. What you know, who's doing the
budget and who's doing the friggin' upkeep.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Hey, how's ground conditions up and North Canterbury? I suppose
you're in too. How's that looking out there?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
They're looking good, mate, Yeah, looking real good. And where
I'm going to they're grinning from you to two. And
they had a really good summer and it's still green
and quite more outside actually, so they're looking looking pretty rosy.
I don't know, we run the country's got any where
they contain a bit of the moment and even I
just come back from the West Coast and they are
really good over there too.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Hey, A bitter news out of theyr Blacks this morning.
Tony Brown's going in there as a coach after the
twenty twenty seven Rugby World Cap. I'm not sure if
you've caught up on this, Jamie, but it's a bit
of a coup for the RBS teaching. For the ORBS
coaching staff, I'd.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Say, yeah, right now, I didn't have much. Well there
you go a couple of days. But it's interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well that's a big question from the box perspective because
he's such a technical mice Jo do you hang on
to him to the Rugby World Cup? And he probably
has a good rapport going with Rescie arrestmus or the
noise going to be out for him in the Republic
saying put him on guarding ly if you don't want them,
get him gone. He's got our secrets.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, it'll be very interesting, won't it.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That is a big cool So as far as this trip,
how long are you away for? When do you bet
home doing some work?
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Roll back on Wednesday night? Mate, So beck my tools
on Thursday. So you a couple of bull cells up
here and want to name Lee tomorrow another one there
that make aroa and then Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Night, So no doubt you're in bed nine thirty every night.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
We'll probably be the nightmak because I've had a couple
of late ones the last couple, so a couple of
late nights and early starts. But that's what Heaven's tours
the season, just at the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Good Jamie, always good to catch up.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Thanks, thanks so much, mate.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Jamie King Aleka Oko in the Satin Dan farming round up.
Thanks the saturdy and stop foods here on the main
street of Gore. Speaking of Eric Croi, we catch up
next in the political roundup. This is the muster on
(11:32):
Hokanui Celen Dion as the artist, especially for our next guest,
Eric Roy, former MP, wore many hats over the years
and continues to do so. Here a good afternoon, Selean Dion.
I'm glad you approved.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Well do you've picked my That's my favorite listen to,
whether I'm in the checker, in the car or trying
to go to sleep or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So thank you, so much, very special.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
As long as you don't go to sleep over the
next day or nine minutes, we doing well.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
I'm sure you'll keep the awake. That's all going to
a bit of a winter blast come through today this morning.
It was a bit evil overnight, so I think there's
something we've got to expect at this time of the year.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, it had to happen eventually, And the truth be known,
those overnight temperatures apart from Wednesday are still pretty good.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Well, we haven't had a serious frost yet and you know,
within a fortnight of the solstice, that's pretty good. We've
had a great autumn and there's a lot of people
haven't really started their winter programs yet and we're one
of them, so that's very good. I'm kind of picking
we might have a late spring, So the later we
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start on the wind program, the better we're going to
be equipped to have something going into the spring, because
the last couple of years that's been a real.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Test for us.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Dare I say, Eric, are you going into the start
of the winter grazing season with too much grass?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
No?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
No, no, never have too much greater but our rocks
for property is just horrendously bere We're going to have
to shift some stock out of there.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
And it's just run.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Country, so that lower TV country just is the driest
part in New Zealand, I think, so we're going to
have to But good thing is that we do have
some feed at Tianni or so we'll get the lighter
end of our breeding cows down to look after them
over the winter and carve them out and then take
them back.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Eric, the government's holding back half a billion dollars as
a so called contingency fund. Has us common practice for
a government an election year.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Well, yeah, Well it's a bit hard to know exactly
what's involved here. They may be just holding some funds
back to come out with a real sweetener before the election.
But I heard Nikola Weller saying they're still doing the
detailed work on it and they weren't ready to announce
it yet. But I don't think we should get too
upset about that because we haven't had any policy at
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all from Labor apart from the Capital games tech, So
who know what else are they going to come out with,
or if they're going to come out with anything, or
just rely on the polls to actually get them there.
I have a bit of a concern about one of
the coalition members lining themselves up to be a coalition
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partner with Labor. One of their coalition members have said
they won't join with Labor while Tipping is the leader
of the party. So I think at the end of
the day if Labor and New zill first have the numbers,
and Winston goes and says, I can be your leader
if you want a coalition. So that's also another complexity
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that might be approaching since we get near the election.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Do you honestly think that will happen.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
I think it has a potential. I don't know if
it will happen, but I'm just putting it out there
and saying, look, MMP is a strange beast. And when
Bill English won the election, Winston won the coalition talks
last time when Jacinda got put in, So who knows
where we'll go. And he's just said no, I won't
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be there if Jimmy he's the leader. But he hasn't
said I won't be there full stop. So just make
your own decisions about what that might mean.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Interesting Labor coming out of policy this week during Field Days,
although I don't think they'll be doing the announcements of
mystery Creek. I'll be very surprised given that they're pretty
flippant about the reural vote.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, well, I think they look.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Everybody just has to notice the importance of our agriculture
and primary industry in terms of what it actually means
to New Zealand. And there's been a shift from pretty
much every party actually about that like sixty percent of
our foreign earnings comes from the primary industry. Well that
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was before this year's left in red meats, so it's
probably going to be a bigger percentage. You might be
sixty five or sixty eight percent now. And And look,
the reality is, if we just want to be able
to afford hospitals and education and social welfare and age
beneficiaries or whatever else we're doing, we've just got to
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generate money. So the reality is this is what we do,
and we need to find the best way of doing that.
So there's been a bit of a focus, and I
think Labor have lifted their game in that regard to
engaging with the sector in a way they haven't done
for quite a while.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Are you expecting much though, when Labor does finally release policy.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Oh no, I'm open to listen to what. I don't
think I'm going to change my vote, but funny interesting
to see where that goes, that's for sure. But I
think they're a big deficiency at the moment of Damien O'Connor.
It's out who they might get as a spokesman or
of primary industries who will be the Minister of Agriculture
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if they get near the treasury benches, because that's the
biggest concern I've got. It's not much the policy, but
how much lever and strength that person has in a
future cabinet of the left. When you consider what someone
like Todd McCay does with the amalgamation of trade and
agriculture and where we've gone with that, it could be
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a pretty sad day if they don't have a really,
really good person to slot into that should the eventuality
of them killing the treasure events occur.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Wayne Langford on Q and A with Jack Tamy say
talking about farm plans that Wayne lanf has been pretty
prolific in the media as of late this week as well,
mister Craig, he'll be there as well the politicians, as
you understand. But interesting takes regarding these, isn't it?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Well? It is, and look, I I believe we've just
got to say this is way forward. We've made the
shift over the last couple of decades from being a
commodity trader to you know, be a branded process person,
and there are issues out there that could blow up
in their face and nitrate levels, and a few other banks,
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animal welfare, all of those things. So if we're wanting
the top price in the market, we've got to have
a bankable system of assuring the public consumer that we've
got these things in hand. So we've got two roads
we can take. We can take let's get a consent
for every farm in the country, or let's hand us
back to the farmers and say you come up with
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a farm plan. Now already most of us have got
at least plant one lot of farm plans. I've got three.
I'm going to have an assurance program on velvet, on
supply to the meat works I supply, and on a
breed thing with angus. What I think we need to
do is sell the advantages of farm plans, and not
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that it's a punitive thing, but this can add value
to what you're doing. One of the banks is already
saying we've got a discounted infrastrate for people who've got
be Cabalt green environmental policy, and we just need to
keep working on that stuff. Unfortunately, if we want to
be in that top price market operation around the world
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getting the best price we can, we've got to have
an assurance program. Otherwise we risk scrutiny that will see
our product. Now glad that's my view. So I'm pleased
that Wayne's come out and said this is the alternative.
We're either going to have a consent or farm plans.
We back farm plans, which is what our regional council did,
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but we need to sell it on the basis this
is an advanced this isn't punitive.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
But do banks have the right to come out there
and say what they want to what you're going to
have to pay in phase depending on what you're doing
on your farm regarding the environment.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
One of the banks has already done that, and they see,
as I said, their consumers will say, hey, I.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Like this bank.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
They're taking a bit of a view of our environments.
So they're reacting to public opinion. And as I said
couple of times, if you want the top price, you've
got to listen to public opinion and you've got to
manage that. It's unfortunately how it is. You We are
price takers, we're not price makers. So we have to
do everything we possibly can to be the best price
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taker that there is out here.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
And just quickly to wrap up, you're speaking at the
VET conference tomorrow, not the veteran conference, but definitely regarding
the vets who do a good job around the animals.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, that's looking forward to.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
That because I want to sit in and hear what
they're saying and what they're doing because they're an integral
part of the of the agricultural sector and you know,
I got invited to come along and talk, so they
just more or less said be interesting and tell us
about challenges. So that's a pretty wide field, so looking
forward to that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Can Eric Roy always appreciate your time on the muster.
Enjoyed the VET conference tomorrow?
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Yeah, well done, Thank you, Eric ROI going to.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Catch up with Ben Dooley next sheep beef YouTube farmer
and is your media influencer especially in the rural landscape.
We find out next.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
The Muster on the farm with Southland District Council woking
together for a beta Southland.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Welcome back to the Muster. Sheep and beef farmer, YouTube farmer.
You can almost put social influencer in there as well.
Ben Dooley, good afternoon, No.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Please don't put that in there, Andy, but get out.
Here's a gown.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, good good mate. Well you're not an influencer, No,
we don't.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
We don't like that term.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
What do you call yourself?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I don't know. I'm just a farmer that does a
bit of filming.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I guess a social media man of the people.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
We'll try it. We'll try and downplay it as much
as possible.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Okay, we'll leave it at that anyway, Down near Windham,
how are things going.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, first, first real wintry feeling day today. I got
a it's weird, it's cold, it's blowing, had to put
the jacket on, couldn't get the truck round everywhere this morning.
So a bit of a shock to the system, but
it was always going to come right, and she's been
a pretty good lead and so far, so yeah, very
very hard to complain. We do kind of want to
get winter in winter. It'd be nice if we just
didn't get winter at all, but that's not going to
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be the case. So yeah, yeah, Well we're just looking
at that forecast thinking, shit, we've had a bloody good
run and it looks like the US are going to
get a few more breaks on crop before it really
gets over yet. So she's all promising.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So everything's on the crops underway.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Pretty much everything Now I've just gotten a two year
old kid or we're just going to have a sort
up and we will get them, get the remainder of
them up in the feet pad. And the hoggits have
just gone on for the last time. They've just had
their three or four days of transition, and the early
mob stay on grass for winter. But yeah, otherwise everything's on. Yeah,
just got to pull them off this week to get
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the rams out, but then they'll go straight back on
and that's everything's sort of locked into scanning at the
very least. So yeah, looking pretty good. Plenty of feed around.
Swedes are done well, so I think we're we're gonna
be okay this winter.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
The stock could be looking a pretty reasonable to what
imagined ideals.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, no, no, we're pretty happy with here. Everything's looking
this year. There's always the odd light one around. You
always seem to get them. It's just a matter of
pulling them off. But in general everything's looking very good.
You lands are probably on par with some of the
best overheads, So got a bit of a job ahead
of me this year, just with hoggets and swedes. I
want to keep them that way. But like I say,
we've got plenty of feet around, so we'll just keep
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pumping it into them. And yeah, keeping eye on those
feed budgets, make sure they're still stacking up. But yeah,
enough things are things are looking really good.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You say that hoggets are as good as what you've
seen them. What live weight would you anticipate?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
What we we We took everything under thirty eight out
I want to say mid March, late March maybe, so
they're probably well. We drenched them to sixty five k
they're probably sitting at about fifty two before they went
on crop as an average for the mob, but with
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a bit of a spread through there. So now for Romney,
you lambs that they've done pretty really well. But then
I mean our average kill wait for the season, we'd
finish just on twenty kilos again, so yeah, they've Yeah,
the lambs have done well this year.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Well talking about talking about that kill, wait, twenty kg.
You'll be really happy with that, considering as you keep
telling about telling us that your lambs mature later in
the season.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, absolutely, and just just bearing in mine with that lot.
We killed half of our lambs. Our works lambs went
the last week of April in the second week of May,
so that just fits with that. We sort of struggle
the whole way through summer and then we get to
autumn and they really start growing. That said, we were
ahead on average kill the whole way through with a
higher than average early kill. Wait, but we did change
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a few things around this year. We left the terminal
lambs on month for an extra three weeks, which the
last season anyway, definitely made a big difference. Got a
few more away off mum that way at bigger weights,
and diminished to sort of hold that the whole way through.
But yeah, it's just the Romney thing. They are never
an early killing animal in the sort of climate. But
like I've always said, we have shit springs and horse
and moortums. I hope you don't want me saying that
(25:12):
word on here.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You've already seen the US word twice in the last
five minutes, so I'll let you out here.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
We go, there, we go.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Just may have it to continue.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
But yeah, so that's what we always say about here.
So to capitalize on that, that's how we do it.
We just we just run the lambs later and make
use of that autumn feed and as long as we've
got penny to get through winter. We just push things
as far as we're game.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Do, especially looking at these spring contracts. We've talked about
it before, but we'll continue to talk about it as
a thing of beauty. And if we can get this
twelve dollars thirty or forty whatever they're talking, that could
perhaps be the tip of the iceberg. Who knows.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yeah, absolutely, Look, it could become a procurement war and
we could pay for that later on. But from what
I understand at the moment, there's no huge inventory sitting
in stock. Product is selling for the prices they're paying,
you know, it's not the companies are struggling to offload it.
So yeah, at the moment, things are certain looking very
promising for next season. I like to be a bit
of a realist in these situations and say we'll count
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our blue things when the money's in the bank. But yeah,
the outlook is better than it's been for a long time.
So yeah, fingers crossed on that one.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Ben, Winter grazing plans is that time of year to
give us a bit of an update, how have you
found it?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Just just the winter grazing plans that we have to
that we do just to get through. What do you
mean or yeah, yep, yep, So hopefully everyone's got one
done if they're grazing on crop. Just just a general
layout of your intent of what you plan to do,
grazing directions, buffer zones, all that sort of stuff. We
have one, we just have it. There's one on resolution,
(26:44):
but we have it just drawn up on paper and
then uploaded into there. Yeah, so just just a general
idea of what you meant to what you're intending to
be doing with grazing. I don't like the idea of
people trying to pencil one out and lock everything in
because obviously the weather plays a ball a big part
in how long breaks last and how much you feed
stuff and everything like that. But yeah, it is a
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good tool just to have there, just to refer back
to when you're getting through your windo grazing and just
see how things are going, and just to have those
I guess environmental protections later in front of you, more
so so that if something goes wrong and the council
do come in, you can show that you've, you know,
you've had an intent here to do the right thing
and obviously understanding things do happen breakouts happen, things can
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go wrong, but no, they are a good tool just
to just to cover yourself. I guess a bit.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I guess would you say that everybody's on board regarding them?
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Yeah, I think so. And I think when you see
the I don't say behavior, when you see the practice
has been taken out with wonder grazing around the province
these days, I think most people are pretty understanding of
what's expected and the vast majority of actions taken seem
to be the right ones. Bear in mind, we've still
got to make this a profitable venture and we've still
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got to, you know, make it work to get through winter.
But yeah, I think the vast majority of people are
doing a pretty good job when it comes to the
environmental aspect of winter grazing.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
And Brenton Hounden made a really relevant point on this
show about ten to twelve days ago, saying that don't
you know, just don't give these groups anti farming groups anymo.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
No, don't give them any ammo. And that's a double
edged thing. On one side, just do your best. We
understand sometimes it doesn't look the best when the weather
turns to crap, and that's just the way it is
just do your best to do the best boy stock.
But yeah, the other side to it is, I'm quite
big on this. When you see those posts put up
on social media, don't interact with them, don't take the bait,
(28:40):
don't go in and start an argument with that certain person,
because that pushes his post to more people. And you'll
quite often see the posts that he doesn't get interaction with.
They don't get a lot of likes, they don't get
a lot of views, and that's what we want. We
want that all to be suppressed. Whereas if we all
go in and he gets one hundred comments from one
hundred farmers argue with them about hell is wrong, which
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I do agree is wrong, you'll all of a sudden
see a lot of other people from around the world
that have no clue what we're doing, all of a
sudden commenting in favor of him. So just be mindful
of that. Just one other thing I wanted to touch
on as drones, if you do happen to see a
drone flying over at your farm, please don't shoot it down.
(29:22):
That is a criminal offense under the civil aviational authority,
and you do not want to piss them off. They're
very strict with their rules and they don't tend to
listen to the other side very much. But if you
do happen to see one flying around, if it's under
four hundred feet, it is absolutely illegal. There is a
special license that you can obtain to do so, but
(29:44):
to my knowledge that only people that have those in
New Zealand are the military and the police, no one
else does I forget what the license is called. Yeah,
but if you could find because generally speaking, it'll be
getting flown from a roadside somewhere, if you could call
the police and find the person flying the drone and
just obviously within the rules, try and stop them from
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leaving till the police get there, it would be great
because the CIA would really like to know about people
flying drones over private property under that four hundred foot ceiling,
and if they go above four hundred foot there is
a gray area there in between. But if they go
over five hundred they're into proper airspace and they are
definitely not allowed to be there either, because then you're
(30:27):
a collision risk for bigger aircraft. So yeah, just if
you do hit someone flying over, try and get the
police to actually find the person who's flying the drone
and they'll take the rest of it from there.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Can only Ben do we always appreciate your time? And
if I start seeing your ads coming up and my
yours sacram feed, I'm going to start charging you.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I know you are not.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Ben Deally, Ben Deally, Ben Dewey sheep beeping YouTube farmer.
And I can say this because I've kind of off
social media influence based out there at Windon. This is
the muster up next, Richard Kite out of Thriving Southland.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Can you kill this?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Welcome back to the muster On Hakanui Seline Dion power
ballad Central. It's all coming back to me now. I
think that song was around nineteen ninety six. Off the
top of my head. Richard Kite, project lead of Thriving
south and catches up once again, Richard, good afternoon, Welcome
to June on the muster.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Good afternoon, and he is rolling around, isn't it journ
already exactly?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And I made it's a couple of weeks since everything
to gain event has been and gone. But I'm just
hearing a lot of positives around this. When we spoke
to Tania regarding this event, I was only expecting to
hear good things and certainly it delivered.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Oh yeah, we.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
I won't say it's surprised, but actually the level of
turnout and farmer turnout was really really good. Uh And
to be to be fair, we had some really good speakers,
so it's great and I think they they were the
you know, they see the importance of the South and
in what we do. So it was a great event
and really some really great messages, you know, for for
(32:25):
real positive stuff. When we looked at look at going forward.
I know it's always change is always challenging, but actually
I think there's a lot of opportunities here and yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, see talk about those opportunities. What what do you
thinks proceeding itself at the moment?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
I suppose my takeaways were basically, you know, we had
a range of speakers here. We had Hamish Maho who
was the Agricultural Trade Envoice, so he just finished his.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Time there.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
He I mean, his message was, you know, we're in
a we're in a good, good position. We've seen we're
seen well, but we're also one of many. And then
we had Ben Galas Fatalis, so he's working he works
on the trade negotiation side. And I suppose he was
pointing it that the world's changed a bit, so it's
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changed from a rules based trade perspective to power based
and and that's why it's really important that we're we're
you know, we're picking up these bilateral agreements. So and
he talked about India. That's I mean, that's a big
opportunity there. You know, they've got one point I think
it's one point four seven billion populations. So sometimes we
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look at those agreements and go, you know, are we
getting enough out of it? But because of the scale,
and that was his point, because of the scale, not
not a lot needs to change. It makes a massive
difference to us and under need to be in there
and to be on board as other nations are in
there as well.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, okay, so we look at India in a free
trade sense, Richard just being a humble farmer in Southland,
there's a lot of this to be positive about, well
excited about almost oh.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Well, without a doubt. I mean one of the points
made was in the shape shape meet space. You know,
Australia they got we had eighty five percent of the
market and Australia got their free trade agreement dropped about
nine percent, so you know, actually getting back in there
and moving that will ship the doll again, even even
(34:30):
in the dairy space. You know, he's sort of I mean,
Bengalis was saying the you know, they even dropping thirty
three percent on the infant formula and looking at you
know that they've got a they've got a few winds here.
I wasn't aware of it. Like nobody's got into India.
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They were expecting the Americans would get in there with Deary.
Nobody's got in with Deary, and we we're picking up
little winds in Dewy, but we call them little but
you look at the scale and actually they start adding up.
So not might not be what everybody was wanting, But
across the board, Apple's hought key we fruit might not
(35:12):
be that relevant dying here at the moment seat food
though you know there's very you know, there's a lot
of opportunity there. And the other key messages that really
came through what were the Indians with a look at
our market were really really small compared to them, But
they actually know we deliver and we know we support
(35:33):
what we do there. So I mean that's a really
positive messaging that I was I picked up.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Now, the panel presentation and discussion. One of the discussions
based on trading on New Zealand's reputation, the changing global
climate at the moment we've seen them in the Middle East.
It's been a couple of weeks, but I'd say it's
pretty relevant and on point what would have gone through.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
Yeah, I think from that panel perspective, it is it
is we're in a place of change and that's why,
you know, our market diversification is really important. But also
what came out from the panel is the need, you know,
we've got to get in behind sidcation of of our
product and what we've got, and that begins on fan
(36:19):
and that that message came from both the farmers and
the other panel members and it's and it's not kind
of from a compliance perspective, it's from a we've got
to tell our story and when when the LOCs of
in Garlas is selling us into a free trade agreement
and selling what we've got, he can he can back
that up and that's something we're really good at. So yeah,
(36:40):
I think that was the key message from the panel.
You know, we sometimes we don't like all the compliance
and farm plans, et cetera. But they're starting to become
I think it's changing from compliance to really just relevant
to getting access into the market. So they're real positive space.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So farmer feedback regarding the event was pretty much in
the was pretty much in the positive. Imagine.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
Oh look, the feedback was excellently and I think it
was actually you know, talking talking to the people who
have to have to make the change and they're looking
for the information, so talking from you know, from from
the water's mouth as it were, like the likes of
men Garlas talking to farmers with those messages and yeah,
(37:29):
just they're available to everybody. Andy. We put them up
on the website and I think, you know that really
positive feedback from farmers who were there, So I think
well worth getting on the website and actually having a
look at some of those.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Videos.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, good on your richer. Congratulations once again on an
event that seemed to capture the farmer's interest given that
there were so many people attending.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
You enjoy the afternoon, Okay, cheers, Andy, appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Richard Kite, projects lead of Thriving Southland. We're away to
Canada next to wrap up. Greg Rickson, a Canadian correspondent
formerly Away Moomy, we have a chat.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
So I can tell you, well, can you kill me?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Welcome back to the Muster. We're away over to Millicon, Canada,
where we catch up with Greg Ericson, formerly of Boy Moomy.
Good afternoon, Greg. I was explaining the rash now behind
Celean Dean today and of course Eric Croy requested it. Now,
Eric used to be your neighbor up at Way Moomy.
You told me a pretty cool story about him going
for a run.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah, good Andy. Yeah, Eric was there a neighbor and
when I was growing up, and he used to run
down the road with a backpack on full of twenty
kilograms of cement and like nothing, just run along.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
That's just the old school mentality, I suppose, doesn't that
You know what I mean. It's spelt like a bullet
to be fat.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, he's he was a brick back then, and I
mentioned it's still a big guy now. But yeah, he
was just a different breed, just absolute strong man.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
You're based over there in Canada. Last time we spoke
to you, it was starting to warm up. It was
in the negatives. But you'll be right, Well, technically you're
starting summer.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Yeah, some of the summer's just kicked off, and all
the seeding was all finished up a week ago or so,
but all just in time for all the rain to come,
because we were pretty dry during seeding and well all
spring really, and then we got one hundred mills of
rain or one hundred and ten meals of rain in
about seventy hours.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
What would be your average rainfall there, It's.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
About four hundred and fifty ish mills.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
There's not a lot of rain. It's very much central
a targo.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
That doesn't include the snow melt, so the snow. Yeah,
so that's that. That's all just just rainfall over summer.
If we get no, say, three feet of snow, that
works out to be another however much rain. I think
it's nine nine nine mills of snowfall equals one mill
of rain.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
So snowfall is such so because we get wed a
good fall in south and that's just the law layer
of the land and the law of averages. But what
do you work on for snowfall over there?
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Well, it varies yet a year. We get most of
our snowfall in the spring, so during the winter, it's
we'll get the odd storm and then it just sort
of settles in and doesn't go anywhere. But average snowfall
can be might be two feet, I guess, but some
some springs we might get three feet, and some spring
springs it might get six.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
It's just it just varies.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Are frosts pretty prevalent, well they are.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
So we get we get frost, the frost saws start
coming in September the where the stations will still put
out frost warnings for the crops and whatnot, and then
once the once probably November by the time the frost
comes and then doesn't leave.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
So how's the growing conditions been? Yes, you said you
had a bit of rain recently, but it was required
all the crops in the ground. So how's the feel
around there considering the growing conditions.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Well, all the crops are in the ground, and they
were most of them were up before we got the rain,
and the ones that were up were looking quite stressed,
they were getting a bit yellow. But this rain has
really pracked things up. And now you look at the
canal that's coming out of the ground, it's looking just lovely.
So it's starting to get that there's extra big leaves
on the bottom there, so we're looking pretty So how are.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
The prices for arable holding up over there?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Greg, Well, Barley's come up slightly, so it's it's sorry
to talking bushels again, but used to that. It's around
it's around the five to fifty mark Canadian but the
wheats dropped and then the canoal is sitting probably where
it was over the last ten years average around the
(41:59):
thirteen dollars, maybe fourteen dollars.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
How did it take you to figure out the spilaki
around bushels and imperial versus metric. We talked about it again,
but it's still confusing when you hear it confuses me.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Still, I just give up and I just sort of
just got beaten his submission, and now I just deal
with bushels basically.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
But you do deal in cents, dollars and kilometers.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yes, absolutely. Now, also, if you buy a contract with
one of the big companies, you are probably buying in
tons or selling in tons.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Right, gotcha, makes no sense? What's it's as clear as mud?
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
So in general, though you're based in the province of Alberta,
how's the feeling around.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
There, feeling Alberta's a little bit next to the moment.
So I think I told you last time that Alberta's
thinking about doing the separation thing.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's right from.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Well we now have a date for so we're having
a referendum in Alberta to one option is to stay
in Canada and the other option is to if the
referendum gets over fifty percent, the Province of Alberta will
officially look into having a referendum to separate from Canada.
(43:14):
So to to clarify, we're having a referendum on a referendum.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
It's as clear as a bushel.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
It's it's confusing, and it's it's it's silly, and I
think all signs lead to us, well Alberta staying in
Canada and everything going smoothly and just status quo. But
the option is there for Alberton's to vote to have
a referendum to put pressure on Ottawa that we might leave,
(43:48):
just to threaten we might leave. I think that's a
bad idea because it's threatening business won't invest in Alberta
while it's unclear what our future is.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Scult had a referen in him a couple of years
ago about trying to break away from the UK. What's
the reason for Alberta wanting to go alone?
Speaker 4 (44:07):
So, well, it's to do with taxes, basically, a lot
of people and Alberta think, we pay a lot of
taxes and then it gets sent to Ottawa and then
that gets redistributed around the country and Alberton's think we
get a unfaired deal out of that.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
It's a very resourceful county. You suppose a province.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Oh yes, Alberta is the most wealthiest province, well so wealthiest,
the most resource rich of all the provinces. And we
may Alberta makes a absolute fortune off the oil and
that because of that, the oil companies pay a lot
of money to have Alberton's work for them, and so
(44:51):
they pay more taxes because of it. And we don't
get the services that say eastern provinces get because they
don't have as much. So the Ottawak gives money to
the have not provinces before they give it to the
have provinces.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
So in that case, would Alberta to be an independent
stay to such? How would it work?
Speaker 4 (45:13):
That is the great question? Andy, No one knows.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
So what does a rural community make of all this,
I dare say they want to stay as this and
the status quo.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
You would think so, but no, the rural community is
the is where the bulk of the separatists are. So
the folk in Edmonton and Calgary read there. They are
typically more left leaning and so they want to stay
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in Canada, whereas the very far right I'm more prone
to want to leave.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
It's interesting, Hey, it's coming up to springtime. This is
very much New Zealand thing to say. But is there
a concern around rentlesnakes and the lights coming out at
this time of year? I've made me when you first
went over there was it a concern where you just like,
how do you just deal with them? Because they they
are scared of you, then you're scared of them.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
So when I first came over here, I was down
the States. I mean I went straight down to the
States to do the harvest, and I was very ignorant
to them, and we were running around through cornfields and
bare feet and didn't think much of it. And yeah,
up here in Canada, there's only rattlesnakes in this in
southern parts, like sort of southeast and east of Calgary
(46:31):
and up where I am, just towards Edmonton, there is
nothing but the odd garter snake, though harmless, and you
don't see them. Yeah, there's the rattlesnakes and those hazardous
creatures aren't really here unless you're talking bears and moose,
right and.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
The rest of you. See how that's going to pan
out as well, as well as this referendum on our birder. Hey, Greg,
thanks for your time once again. And next time we chant,
we'll see if we can decipher this bushel talk around
your government.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Sounds good mate, Thanks Eddie, laugh out loud with agg
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Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. Andy
Muer here until two o'clock and of course the show
is brought to you by Peter's Genetics. Welcome along to Monday.
It's cold and gore, let's be honest about it. Although
it's still nine degrees which is pretty good. It's just
a bit cooler than what we've experienced over the past
week or so. But looking at the forecast it has
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short lived. But like I say, if you're coming into
town this afternoon, put the jacket in the wagon. You
might need it. It was a good weekend. Grassroots Rugby
went along to Belfer Wyndham played Belfer. Tell you what,
grassroots rugby, there is absolutely nothing better at the moment.
I mean you look at Super Rugby. You've got four
Kiwi teams in the semis. That's great, but it's not
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doing a lot for Australian rugby at the same time.
Or is it meant to be doing anything for Australian rugby?
Is it is its responsibility? But Grassroots Wind against Bouth
a great game. Coincidentally, thanks very much to Matt and
the windhom guys for beving me going up to the
Lando Marine on the window bus. It was an awesome
night out the sudden Seal and South and Sharks continued
(01:11):
their juggernaut ways, but the black Cats not getting the
job done on a dodgy pit over at Lord's Pitch. Sorry.
And the problem is is when you look at you
seeling going the black Caps going over to the Boxing
day test at the MCG so, I don't know, it's
a bit of a concern for me. It's a bit
of a mindset. I don't know. Celine Dion as well.
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This afternoon, Raymond breezy to brisk sell westerlies west sall
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three and eleven. Wednesdays Sunday with variable wins one and thirteen.
Thursday party cloud to me like Northerlei's eight and thirteen
and Friday morning showers of calm, variable wins once again
three and eleven, so Tambages Clinton eight point two, Herriet
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eight point three, Northern Southland nine, Riverton ten point five,
tianw eight point eight, Winton seven point nine and Woodlands
at nine point one. Jamie King of Lake Heroco starts
us off from the Southern Farming round up Thaksa Sageant
Dan Stop Foods talking about the bull selling circuit. Eric
Roy talking politics and the Labor Party. Where are they
(02:32):
going to release some policy? I mean they brought up
their list today, the numbers there, So when do we
start seeing spiritual policy from the Labor Party? Ben Dooley
sheep beef and YouTube farmer or do we call them
a social media influencer? A sevy album deals and find out.
Richard Kite out of Thriving Southland has a chat and
then Greg Erickson, our Canadian correspondent, talking about the Aberta revolutions,
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Well not really but referendums. Why do they want to
become an independent state away from Canada? It south So
I'll start the old next to Jamie King. You're listening
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Uh?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Depends on suppose mate, it was a good song.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I suppose that day.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
But yeah, what we call it?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But yeah, yes, Well, once upon a time, Eric Rois
said some of the music I played was okay, but
he was a fan of Selean Dion, so I thought
I'd just played ball for Eric. I never played Michael
Jackson before ten days ago on the show either.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Oh look at yougo, mate, it's any there.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Absolutely, Hey, we catch you on tour today. You're where
are you at? A kai kura?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yet? I'm the start getting into corcor on the lot
of road, just tacking around, heaving look at some some
here for some sables, because obviously we've got some redges
to Hereford. So yeah, just sort of SARTs tugging the
ball season and then getting through them and having squiz
around the country. You see what everyone else is up to.
It's been really strong obviously off the back of a
very strong meat schedule and looking really very positive going forward.
(04:26):
So now it's all pretty good mate, and me personally
know I had a good, good day of full clearance,
no big money, but clearly everything for a very good average.
So really happy boys. So it's good to see people specing,
besting in a bit of positive around the whole industry
made it's it's really good to see for a change.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Was that the key thing you took away from the day, Jamie,
people just talking about farming, giving a smile on their
face when they do as well, because there's been a while.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, I suppose this old person so but cheapers about
partying heads up too far. But just at the moment
we're going good end. You know, we've needed this. We've
been getting, yeah, getting in the bottom of dole drums,
getting kicked on the backside for you know, the last
couple of three years. So it's good to see a
bit more, a bit more steady optimism, I would call it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, and just across most of sectors as well, depending
on who you speak to. Yes, war hasn't been flashed,
but hey, it can't be any worse than what it's pain.
And you're starting to get more than a couple of
twenty four pegs.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
For your for your clip too, oh one hundred percent, mate,
And everything's sort of paying some paying some money, you know. Yeah,
so and even on a huge genational level what the
government coffers, you know, there won't have been a lot
of great deal of tax being paid out of the
egg cecutor while the read meat sector in particular the
last two or three years, so they'll probably been for
a couple of good years possibly going forward. So it's
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all going to help the economy a bit, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So what about yourself? You're pretty positive going and head
looking twelve months into the future.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Perhaps yeah, I under think, well we've got to mate,
But yet now everything's looking pretty rosy again. Look, you know,
four casts out six eight months and sort of you'll
probably stop chewing your fingernails wondering how long it's in
a last. But it seems to sort of found a
bit of a bit of steadiness on that note that
don't I don't think it can afford to for a bit,
because yeah, there was we'll all have nothing to do. Yeah, no,
(06:09):
no really looking looking forward to the next next twelve
months anyway, any for sure?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So how did you land budget finish up this year?
I dare say you would have been in the positive?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah yeah yet no note for sure for sure yet No,
we're well well, into're the positive. On that note, I have.
We have spent plenty two but sel story when you're
going to play to catch up a bit more ferret
and a couple of pieces of infrastructure and of plant updated.
So yeah, you know we're going real good, Yeah, real good.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So how's the start of winter? Being a Laker Roco?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Outrageously good? Like I said, I haven't been here for
the last couple of days, but like from so we
got those for you already frost and it was a
little bit no, where's this going to go? And then
it's sort of here would happen if I had a
pettic of cultivator ground signed down in the winter? Cereal
well in the lower and valley Mate, we don't really
genuinely put a plow on the ground in May. But
(07:00):
I got away, thank god. So really good. Has got
wet underfoot the last week.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Though, outurageously good that's not something you hear very often.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
No, no, and it's some of my crops probably not
quite up to scratch. So it's been a blessing in
the skies. I see we're talking about nel Nino coming in,
so we could have been for a bit of a
wet to winter. But at the moment we'll just take
you for as it comes and box on.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So your colors are looking up to party, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yep, yep. No, we're just yeah you. We're just jogging along,
just nice in a real good, good place at the moment.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Right, I've got to throw this one at you, Jamie Counsel.
Amalgamation has been all the talk recently. What do you
make of all of this? What's your preference?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Blah, not too phase mate. I mean they're all sharks.
I've all got their hands out. I've got my owner
shoes with districtfications and roading. But some pieces, if they
all make, the best thing we see is get rid
of some of it fringing Maine that gets gold up
and all the Edmond and horse crap. What that would
be the result. It's the one good thing to come
(08:03):
of it, and that'll be probably what they're steering towards
but if it happens or not, good Lord only knows.
But yeah, I don't know. It'd be nice to get
with some bureaucratic bureaucratic stuff from in the middle, But
then some of those people have to go and get
real jobs, won't they.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So in other words, you're trying to say mainstream, just
trying to streamline services provided.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
One hundred percent. Yep, just mop it up. We've got
a hek of a slip on our road, mate, It's
been there for eight months and yeah, like between council
and contract there's there's just nothing being done with it.
It's absolutely the headache. And there's them currently forty log
trucks going over every day.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
How often do you see a greater on your road?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Not probably Well, generally it's pretty good, but we've got
a lot of long traffic at the moment, so it
probably needs to be up kept that we get on
the phone and bring the people that do it and
say chop, chop, get you gone, because the road is
an empty of abortion like it is at the moment.
But yeah, it's just I know, we seem to get
forgotten about. In the Beaconoma spokes all population based, isn't it.
(09:04):
But hell, Andy, we pay your rates too, mate.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Do you think perhaps the owners should be on the
logging companies and these vehicles that are putting extra weight
on these country roads to be paying a bit more.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I used to know that those logging companies they pay
rates on all their land too, so you know, like
it's we're all in the same pot. So it's still
at the council level. What you know, who's doing the
budget and who's doing the friggin' upkeep.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Hey, how's ground conditions up and North Canterbury? I suppose
you're in too. How's that looking out there?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
They're looking good, mate, Yeah, looking real good. And where
I'm going to they're grinning from you to two. And
they had a really good summer and it's still green
and quite more outside actually, so they're looking looking pretty rosy.
I don't know, we run the country's got any where
they contain a bit of the moment and even I
just come back from the West Coast and they are
really good over there too.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Hey, A bitter news out of theyr Blacks this morning.
Tony Brown's going in there as a coach after the
twenty twenty seven Rugby World Cap. I'm not sure if
you've caught up on this, Jamie, but it's a bit
of a coup for the RBS teaching. For the ORBS
coaching staff, I'd.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Say, yeah, right now, I didn't have much. Well there
you go a couple of days. But it's interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well that's a big question from the box perspective because
he's such a technical mice Jo do you hang on
to him to the Rugby World Cup? And he probably
has a good rapport going with Rescie arrestmus or the
noise going to be out for him in the Republic
saying put him on guarding ly if you don't want them,
get him gone. He's got our secrets.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, it'll be very interesting, won't it.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
That is a big cool So as far as this trip,
how long are you away for? When do you bet
home doing some work?
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Roll back on Wednesday night? Mate, So beck my tools
on Thursday. So you a couple of bull cells up
here and want to name Lee tomorrow another one there
that make aroa and then Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Night, So no doubt you're in bed nine thirty every night.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
We'll probably be the nightmak because I've had a couple
of late ones the last couple, so a couple of
late nights and early starts. But that's what Heaven's tours
the season, just at the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Good Jamie, always good to catch up.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Thanks, thanks so much, mate.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Jamie King Aleka Oko in the Satin Dan farming round up.
Thanks the saturdy and stop foods here on the main
street of Gore. Speaking of Eric Croi, we catch up
next in the political roundup. This is the muster on
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Hokanui Celen Dion as the artist, especially for our next guest,
Eric Roy, former MP, wore many hats over the years
and continues to do so. Here a good afternoon, Selean Dion.
I'm glad you approved.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Well do you've picked my That's my favorite listen to,
whether I'm in the checker, in the car or trying
to go to sleep or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
So thank you, so much, very special.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
As long as you don't go to sleep over the
next day or nine minutes, we doing well.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
I'm sure you'll keep the awake. That's all going to
a bit of a winter blast come through today this morning.
It was a bit evil overnight, so I think there's
something we've got to expect at this time of the year.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, it had to happen eventually, And the truth be known,
those overnight temperatures apart from Wednesday are still pretty good.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Well, we haven't had a serious frost yet and you know,
within a fortnight of the solstice, that's pretty good. We've
had a great autumn and there's a lot of people
haven't really started their winter programs yet and we're one
of them, so that's very good. I'm kind of picking
we might have a late spring, So the later we
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start on the wind program, the better we're going to
be equipped to have something going into the spring, because
the last couple of years that's been a real.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Test for us.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Dare I say, Eric, are you going into the start
of the winter grazing season with too much grass?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
No?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
No, no, never have too much greater but our rocks
for property is just horrendously bere We're going to have
to shift some stock out of there.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
And it's just run.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Country, so that lower TV country just is the driest
part in New Zealand, I think, so we're going to
have to But good thing is that we do have
some feed at Tianni or so we'll get the lighter
end of our breeding cows down to look after them
over the winter and carve them out and then take
them back.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Eric, the government's holding back half a billion dollars as
a so called contingency fund. Has us common practice for
a government an election year.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Well, yeah, Well it's a bit hard to know exactly
what's involved here. They may be just holding some funds
back to come out with a real sweetener before the election.
But I heard Nikola Weller saying they're still doing the
detailed work on it and they weren't ready to announce
it yet. But I don't think we should get too
upset about that because we haven't had any policy at
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all from Labor apart from the Capital games tech, So
who know what else are they going to come out with,
or if they're going to come out with anything, or
just rely on the polls to actually get them there.
I have a bit of a concern about one of
the coalition members lining themselves up to be a coalition
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partner with Labor. One of their coalition members have said
they won't join with Labor while Tipping is the leader
of the party. So I think at the end of
the day if Labor and New zill first have the numbers,
and Winston goes and says, I can be your leader
if you want a coalition. So that's also another complexity
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that might be approaching since we get near the election.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Do you honestly think that will happen.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
I think it has a potential. I don't know if
it will happen, but I'm just putting it out there
and saying, look, MMP is a strange beast. And when
Bill English won the election, Winston won the coalition talks
last time when Jacinda got put in, So who knows
where we'll go. And he's just said no, I won't
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be there if Jimmy he's the leader. But he hasn't
said I won't be there full stop. So just make
your own decisions about what that might mean.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Interesting Labor coming out of policy this week during Field Days,
although I don't think they'll be doing the announcements of
mystery Creek. I'll be very surprised given that they're pretty
flippant about the reural vote.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, well, I think they look.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Everybody just has to notice the importance of our agriculture
and primary industry in terms of what it actually means
to New Zealand. And there's been a shift from pretty
much every party actually about that like sixty percent of
our foreign earnings comes from the primary industry. Well that
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was before this year's left in red meats, so it's
probably going to be a bigger percentage. You might be
sixty five or sixty eight percent now. And And look,
the reality is, if we just want to be able
to afford hospitals and education and social welfare and age
beneficiaries or whatever else we're doing, we've just got to
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generate money. So the reality is this is what we do,
and we need to find the best way of doing that.
So there's been a bit of a focus, and I
think Labor have lifted their game in that regard to
engaging with the sector in a way they haven't done
for quite a while.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Are you expecting much though, when Labor does finally release policy.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Oh no, I'm open to listen to what. I don't
think I'm going to change my vote, but funny interesting
to see where that goes, that's for sure. But I
think they're a big deficiency at the moment of Damien O'Connor.
It's out who they might get as a spokesman or
of primary industries who will be the Minister of Agriculture
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if they get near the treasury benches, because that's the
biggest concern I've got. It's not much the policy, but
how much lever and strength that person has in a
future cabinet of the left. When you consider what someone
like Todd McCay does with the amalgamation of trade and
agriculture and where we've gone with that, it could be
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a pretty sad day if they don't have a really,
really good person to slot into that should the eventuality
of them killing the treasure events occur.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Wayne Langford on Q and A with Jack Tamy say
talking about farm plans that Wayne lanf has been pretty
prolific in the media as of late this week as well,
mister Craig, he'll be there as well the politicians, as
you understand. But interesting takes regarding these, isn't it?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Well? It is, and look, I I believe we've just
got to say this is way forward. We've made the
shift over the last couple of decades from being a
commodity trader to you know, be a branded process person,
and there are issues out there that could blow up
in their face and nitrate levels, and a few other banks,
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animal welfare, all of those things. So if we're wanting
the top price in the market, we've got to have
a bankable system of assuring the public consumer that we've
got these things in hand. So we've got two roads
we can take. We can take let's get a consent
for every farm in the country, or let's hand us
back to the farmers and say you come up with
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a farm plan. Now already most of us have got
at least plant one lot of farm plans. I've got three.
I'm going to have an assurance program on velvet, on
supply to the meat works I supply, and on a
breed thing with angus. What I think we need to
do is sell the advantages of farm plans, and not
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that it's a punitive thing, but this can add value
to what you're doing. One of the banks is already
saying we've got a discounted infrastrate for people who've got
be Cabalt green environmental policy, and we just need to
keep working on that stuff. Unfortunately, if we want to
be in that top price market operation around the world
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getting the best price we can, we've got to have
an assurance program. Otherwise we risk scrutiny that will see
our product. Now glad that's my view. So I'm pleased
that Wayne's come out and said this is the alternative.
We're either going to have a consent or farm plans.
We back farm plans, which is what our regional council did,
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but we need to sell it on the basis this
is an advanced this isn't punitive.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
But do banks have the right to come out there
and say what they want to what you're going to
have to pay in phase depending on what you're doing
on your farm regarding the environment.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
One of the banks has already done that, and they see,
as I said, their consumers will say, hey, I.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Like this bank.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
They're taking a bit of a view of our environments.
So they're reacting to public opinion. And as I said
couple of times, if you want the top price, you've
got to listen to public opinion and you've got to
manage that. It's unfortunately how it is. You We are
price takers, we're not price makers. So we have to
do everything we possibly can to be the best price
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taker that there is out here.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
And just quickly to wrap up, you're speaking at the
VET conference tomorrow, not the veteran conference, but definitely regarding
the vets who do a good job around the animals.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, that's looking forward to.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
That because I want to sit in and hear what
they're saying and what they're doing because they're an integral
part of the of the agricultural sector and you know,
I got invited to come along and talk, so they
just more or less said be interesting and tell us
about challenges. So that's a pretty wide field, so looking
forward to that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Can Eric Roy always appreciate your time on the muster.
Enjoyed the VET conference tomorrow?
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Yeah, well done, Thank you, Eric ROI going to.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Catch up with Ben Dooley next sheep beef YouTube farmer
and is your media influencer especially in the rural landscape.
We find out next.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
The Muster on the farm with Southland District Council woking
together for a beta Southland.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Welcome back to the Muster. Sheep and beef farmer, YouTube farmer.
You can almost put social influencer in there as well.
Ben Dooley, good afternoon, No.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Please don't put that in there, Andy, but get out.
Here's a gown.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, good good mate. Well you're not an influencer, No,
we don't.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
We don't like that term.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
What do you call yourself?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I don't know. I'm just a farmer that does a
bit of filming.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I guess a social media man of the people.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
We'll try it. We'll try and downplay it as much
as possible.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Okay, we'll leave it at that anyway, Down near Windham,
how are things going.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, first, first real wintry feeling day today. I got
a it's weird, it's cold, it's blowing, had to put
the jacket on, couldn't get the truck round everywhere this morning.
So a bit of a shock to the system, but
it was always going to come right, and she's been
a pretty good lead and so far, so yeah, very
very hard to complain. We do kind of want to
get winter in winter. It'd be nice if we just
didn't get winter at all, but that's not going to
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be the case. So yeah, yeah, Well we're just looking
at that forecast thinking, shit, we've had a bloody good
run and it looks like the US are going to
get a few more breaks on crop before it really
gets over yet. So she's all promising.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So everything's on the crops underway.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Pretty much everything Now I've just gotten a two year
old kid or we're just going to have a sort
up and we will get them, get the remainder of
them up in the feet pad. And the hoggits have
just gone on for the last time. They've just had
their three or four days of transition, and the early
mob stay on grass for winter. But yeah, otherwise everything's on. Yeah,
just got to pull them off this week to get
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the rams out, but then they'll go straight back on
and that's everything's sort of locked into scanning at the
very least. So yeah, looking pretty good. Plenty of feed around.
Swedes are done well, so I think we're we're gonna
be okay this winter.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
The stock could be looking a pretty reasonable to what
imagined ideals.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, no, no, we're pretty happy with here. Everything's looking
this year. There's always the odd light one around. You
always seem to get them. It's just a matter of
pulling them off. But in general everything's looking very good.
You lands are probably on par with some of the
best overheads, So got a bit of a job ahead
of me this year, just with hoggets and swedes. I
want to keep them that way. But like I say,
we've got plenty of feet around, so we'll just keep
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pumping it into them. And yeah, keeping eye on those
feed budgets, make sure they're still stacking up. But yeah,
enough things are things are looking really good.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You say that hoggets are as good as what you've
seen them. What live weight would you anticipate?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
What we we We took everything under thirty eight out
I want to say mid March, late March maybe, so
they're probably well. We drenched them to sixty five k
they're probably sitting at about fifty two before they went
on crop as an average for the mob, but with
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a bit of a spread through there. So now for Romney,
you lambs that they've done pretty really well. But then
I mean our average kill wait for the season, we'd
finish just on twenty kilos again, so yeah, they've Yeah,
the lambs have done well this year.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Well talking about talking about that kill, wait, twenty kg.
You'll be really happy with that, considering as you keep
telling about telling us that your lambs mature later in
the season.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, absolutely, and just just bearing in mine with that lot.
We killed half of our lambs. Our works lambs went
the last week of April in the second week of May,
so that just fits with that. We sort of struggle
the whole way through summer and then we get to
autumn and they really start growing. That said, we were
ahead on average kill the whole way through with a
higher than average early kill. Wait, but we did change
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a few things around this year. We left the terminal
lambs on month for an extra three weeks, which the
last season anyway, definitely made a big difference. Got a
few more away off mum that way at bigger weights,
and diminished to sort of hold that the whole way through.
But yeah, it's just the Romney thing. They are never
an early killing animal in the sort of climate. But
like I've always said, we have shit springs and horse
and moortums. I hope you don't want me saying that
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word on here.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You've already seen the US word twice in the last
five minutes, so I'll let you out here.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
We go, there, we go.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Just may have it to continue.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
But yeah, so that's what we always say about here.
So to capitalize on that, that's how we do it.
We just we just run the lambs later and make
use of that autumn feed and as long as we've
got penny to get through winter. We just push things
as far as we're game.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Do, especially looking at these spring contracts. We've talked about
it before, but we'll continue to talk about it as
a thing of beauty. And if we can get this
twelve dollars thirty or forty whatever they're talking, that could
perhaps be the tip of the iceberg. Who knows.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yeah, absolutely, Look, it could become a procurement war and
we could pay for that later on. But from what
I understand at the moment, there's no huge inventory sitting
in stock. Product is selling for the prices they're paying,
you know, it's not the companies are struggling to offload it.
So yeah, at the moment, things are certain looking very
promising for next season. I like to be a bit
of a realist in these situations and say we'll count
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our blue things when the money's in the bank. But yeah,
the outlook is better than it's been for a long time.
So yeah, fingers crossed on that one.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Ben, Winter grazing plans is that time of year to
give us a bit of an update, how have you
found it?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Just just the winter grazing plans that we have to
that we do just to get through. What do you
mean or yeah, yep, yep, So hopefully everyone's got one
done if they're grazing on crop. Just just a general
layout of your intent of what you plan to do,
grazing directions, buffer zones, all that sort of stuff. We
have one, we just have it. There's one on resolution,
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but we have it just drawn up on paper and
then uploaded into there. Yeah, so just just a general
idea of what you meant to what you're intending to
be doing with grazing. I don't like the idea of
people trying to pencil one out and lock everything in
because obviously the weather plays a ball a big part
in how long breaks last and how much you feed
stuff and everything like that. But yeah, it is a
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good tool just to have there, just to refer back
to when you're getting through your windo grazing and just
see how things are going, and just to have those
I guess environmental protections later in front of you, more
so so that if something goes wrong and the council
do come in, you can show that you've, you know,
you've had an intent here to do the right thing
and obviously understanding things do happen breakouts happen, things can
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go wrong, but no, they are a good tool just
to just to cover yourself. I guess a bit.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I guess would you say that everybody's on board regarding them?
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Yeah, I think so. And I think when you see
the I don't say behavior, when you see the practice
has been taken out with wonder grazing around the province
these days, I think most people are pretty understanding of
what's expected and the vast majority of actions taken seem
to be the right ones. Bear in mind, we've still
got to make this a profitable venture and we've still
(27:57):
got to, you know, make it work to get through winter.
But yeah, I think the vast majority of people are
doing a pretty good job when it comes to the
environmental aspect of winter grazing.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
And Brenton Hounden made a really relevant point on this
show about ten to twelve days ago, saying that don't
you know, just don't give these groups anti farming groups anymo.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
No, don't give them any ammo. And that's a double
edged thing. On one side, just do your best. We
understand sometimes it doesn't look the best when the weather
turns to crap, and that's just the way it is
just do your best to do the best boy stock.
But yeah, the other side to it is, I'm quite
big on this. When you see those posts put up
on social media, don't interact with them, don't take the bait,
(28:40):
don't go in and start an argument with that certain person,
because that pushes his post to more people. And you'll
quite often see the posts that he doesn't get interaction with.
They don't get a lot of likes, they don't get
a lot of views, and that's what we want. We
want that all to be suppressed. Whereas if we all
go in and he gets one hundred comments from one
hundred farmers argue with them about hell is wrong, which
(29:01):
I do agree is wrong, you'll all of a sudden
see a lot of other people from around the world
that have no clue what we're doing, all of a
sudden commenting in favor of him. So just be mindful
of that. Just one other thing I wanted to touch
on as drones, if you do happen to see a
drone flying over at your farm, please don't shoot it down.
(29:22):
That is a criminal offense under the civil aviational authority,
and you do not want to piss them off. They're
very strict with their rules and they don't tend to
listen to the other side very much. But if you
do happen to see one flying around, if it's under
four hundred feet, it is absolutely illegal. There is a
special license that you can obtain to do so, but
(29:44):
to my knowledge that only people that have those in
New Zealand are the military and the police, no one
else does I forget what the license is called. Yeah,
but if you could find because generally speaking, it'll be
getting flown from a roadside somewhere, if you could call
the police and find the person flying the drone and
just obviously within the rules, try and stop them from
(30:06):
leaving till the police get there, it would be great
because the CIA would really like to know about people
flying drones over private property under that four hundred foot ceiling,
and if they go above four hundred foot there is
a gray area there in between. But if they go
over five hundred they're into proper airspace and they are
definitely not allowed to be there either, because then you're
(30:27):
a collision risk for bigger aircraft. So yeah, just if
you do hit someone flying over, try and get the
police to actually find the person who's flying the drone
and they'll take the rest of it from there.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Can only Ben do we always appreciate your time? And
if I start seeing your ads coming up and my
yours sacram feed, I'm going to start charging you.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I know you are not.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Ben Deally, Ben Deally, Ben Dewey sheep beeping YouTube farmer.
And I can say this because I've kind of off
social media influence based out there at Windon. This is
the muster up next, Richard Kite out of Thriving Southland.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Can you kill this?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Welcome back to the muster On Hakanui Seline Dion power
ballad Central. It's all coming back to me now. I
think that song was around nineteen ninety six. Off the
top of my head. Richard Kite, project lead of Thriving
south and catches up once again, Richard, good afternoon, Welcome
to June on the muster.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Good afternoon, and he is rolling around, isn't it journ
already exactly?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And I made it's a couple of weeks since everything
to gain event has been and gone. But I'm just
hearing a lot of positives around this. When we spoke
to Tania regarding this event, I was only expecting to
hear good things and certainly it delivered.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Oh yeah, we.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
I won't say it's surprised, but actually the level of
turnout and farmer turnout was really really good. Uh And
to be to be fair, we had some really good speakers,
so it's great and I think they they were the
you know, they see the importance of the South and
in what we do. So it was a great event
and really some really great messages, you know, for for
(32:25):
real positive stuff. When we looked at look at going forward.
I know it's always change is always challenging, but actually
I think there's a lot of opportunities here and yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, see talk about those opportunities. What what do you
thinks proceeding itself at the moment?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
I suppose my takeaways were basically, you know, we had
a range of speakers here. We had Hamish Maho who
was the Agricultural Trade Envoice, so he just finished his.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Time there.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
He I mean, his message was, you know, we're in
a we're in a good, good position. We've seen we're
seen well, but we're also one of many. And then
we had Ben Galas Fatalis, so he's working he works
on the trade negotiation side. And I suppose he was
pointing it that the world's changed a bit, so it's
(33:15):
changed from a rules based trade perspective to power based
and and that's why it's really important that we're we're
you know, we're picking up these bilateral agreements. So and
he talked about India. That's I mean, that's a big
opportunity there. You know, they've got one point I think
it's one point four seven billion populations. So sometimes we
(33:38):
look at those agreements and go, you know, are we
getting enough out of it? But because of the scale,
and that was his point, because of the scale, not
not a lot needs to change. It makes a massive
difference to us and under need to be in there
and to be on board as other nations are in
there as well.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, okay, so we look at India in a free
trade sense, Richard just being a humble farmer in Southland,
there's a lot of this to be positive about, well
excited about almost oh.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Well, without a doubt. I mean one of the points
made was in the shape shape meet space. You know,
Australia they got we had eighty five percent of the
market and Australia got their free trade agreement dropped about
nine percent, so you know, actually getting back in there
and moving that will ship the doll again, even even
(34:30):
in the dairy space. You know, he's sort of I mean,
Bengalis was saying the you know, they even dropping thirty
three percent on the infant formula and looking at you
know that they've got a they've got a few winds here.
I wasn't aware of it. Like nobody's got into India.
(34:52):
They were expecting the Americans would get in there with Deary.
Nobody's got in with Deary, and we we're picking up
little winds in Dewy, but we call them little but
you look at the scale and actually they start adding up.
So not might not be what everybody was wanting, But
across the board, Apple's hought key we fruit might not
(35:12):
be that relevant dying here at the moment seat food
though you know there's very you know, there's a lot
of opportunity there. And the other key messages that really
came through what were the Indians with a look at
our market were really really small compared to them, But
they actually know we deliver and we know we support
(35:33):
what we do there. So I mean that's a really
positive messaging that I was I picked up.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Now, the panel presentation and discussion. One of the discussions
based on trading on New Zealand's reputation, the changing global
climate at the moment we've seen them in the Middle East.
It's been a couple of weeks, but I'd say it's
pretty relevant and on point what would have gone through.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
Yeah, I think from that panel perspective, it is it
is we're in a place of change and that's why,
you know, our market diversification is really important. But also
what came out from the panel is the need, you know,
we've got to get in behind sidcation of of our
product and what we've got, and that begins on fan
(36:19):
and that that message came from both the farmers and
the other panel members and it's and it's not kind
of from a compliance perspective, it's from a we've got
to tell our story and when when the LOCs of
in Garlas is selling us into a free trade agreement
and selling what we've got, he can he can back
that up and that's something we're really good at. So yeah,
(36:40):
I think that was the key message from the panel.
You know, we sometimes we don't like all the compliance
and farm plans, et cetera. But they're starting to become
I think it's changing from compliance to really just relevant
to getting access into the market. So they're real positive space.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So farmer feedback regarding the event was pretty much in
the was pretty much in the positive. Imagine.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
Oh look, the feedback was excellently and I think it
was actually you know, talking talking to the people who
have to have to make the change and they're looking
for the information, so talking from you know, from from
the water's mouth as it were, like the likes of
men Garlas talking to farmers with those messages and yeah,
(37:29):
just they're available to everybody. Andy. We put them up
on the website and I think, you know that really
positive feedback from farmers who were there, So I think
well worth getting on the website and actually having a
look at some of those.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Videos.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, good on your richer. Congratulations once again on an
event that seemed to capture the farmer's interest given that
there were so many people attending.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
You enjoy the afternoon, Okay, cheers, Andy, appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Richard Kite, projects lead of Thriving Southland. We're away to
Canada next to wrap up. Greg Rickson, a Canadian correspondent
formerly Away Moomy, we have a chat.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
So I can tell you, well, can you kill me?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Welcome back to the Muster. We're away over to Millicon, Canada,
where we catch up with Greg Ericson, formerly of Boy Moomy.
Good afternoon, Greg. I was explaining the rash now behind
Celean Dean today and of course Eric Croy requested it. Now,
Eric used to be your neighbor up at Way Moomy.
You told me a pretty cool story about him going
for a run.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah, good Andy. Yeah, Eric was there a neighbor and
when I was growing up, and he used to run
down the road with a backpack on full of twenty
kilograms of cement and like nothing, just run along.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
That's just the old school mentality, I suppose, doesn't that
You know what I mean. It's spelt like a bullet
to be fat.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, he's he was a brick back then, and I
mentioned it's still a big guy now. But yeah, he
was just a different breed, just absolute strong man.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
You're based over there in Canada. Last time we spoke
to you, it was starting to warm up. It was
in the negatives. But you'll be right, Well, technically you're
starting summer.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Yeah, some of the summer's just kicked off, and all
the seeding was all finished up a week ago or so,
but all just in time for all the rain to come,
because we were pretty dry during seeding and well all
spring really, and then we got one hundred mills of
rain or one hundred and ten meals of rain in
about seventy hours.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
What would be your average rainfall there, It's.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
About four hundred and fifty ish mills.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
There's not a lot of rain. It's very much central
a targo.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
That doesn't include the snow melt, so the snow. Yeah,
so that's that. That's all just just rainfall over summer.
If we get no, say, three feet of snow, that
works out to be another however much rain. I think
it's nine nine nine mills of snowfall equals one mill
of rain.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
So snowfall is such so because we get wed a
good fall in south and that's just the law layer
of the land and the law of averages. But what
do you work on for snowfall over there?
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Well, it varies yet a year. We get most of
our snowfall in the spring, so during the winter, it's
we'll get the odd storm and then it just sort
of settles in and doesn't go anywhere. But average snowfall
can be might be two feet, I guess, but some
some springs we might get three feet, and some spring
springs it might get six.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
It's just it just varies.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Are frosts pretty prevalent, well they are.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
So we get we get frost, the frost saws start
coming in September the where the stations will still put
out frost warnings for the crops and whatnot, and then
once the once probably November by the time the frost
comes and then doesn't leave.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
So how's the growing conditions been? Yes, you said you
had a bit of rain recently, but it was required
all the crops in the ground. So how's the feel
around there considering the growing conditions.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Well, all the crops are in the ground, and they
were most of them were up before we got the rain,
and the ones that were up were looking quite stressed,
they were getting a bit yellow. But this rain has
really pracked things up. And now you look at the
canal that's coming out of the ground, it's looking just lovely.
So it's starting to get that there's extra big leaves
on the bottom there, so we're looking pretty So how are.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
The prices for arable holding up over there?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Greg, Well, Barley's come up slightly, so it's it's sorry
to talking bushels again, but used to that. It's around
it's around the five to fifty mark Canadian but the
wheats dropped and then the canoal is sitting probably where
it was over the last ten years average around the
(41:59):
thirteen dollars, maybe fourteen dollars.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
How did it take you to figure out the spilaki
around bushels and imperial versus metric. We talked about it again,
but it's still confusing when you hear it confuses me.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Still, I just give up and I just sort of
just got beaten his submission, and now I just deal
with bushels basically.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
But you do deal in cents, dollars and kilometers.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yes, absolutely. Now, also, if you buy a contract with
one of the big companies, you are probably buying in
tons or selling in tons.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Right, gotcha, makes no sense? What's it's as clear as mud?
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
So in general, though you're based in the province of Alberta,
how's the feeling around.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
There, feeling Alberta's a little bit next to the moment.
So I think I told you last time that Alberta's
thinking about doing the separation thing.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's right from.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Well we now have a date for so we're having
a referendum in Alberta to one option is to stay
in Canada and the other option is to if the
referendum gets over fifty percent, the Province of Alberta will
officially look into having a referendum to separate from Canada.
(43:14):
So to to clarify, we're having a referendum on a referendum.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
It's as clear as a bushel.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
It's it's confusing, and it's it's it's silly, and I
think all signs lead to us, well Alberta staying in
Canada and everything going smoothly and just status quo. But
the option is there for Alberton's to vote to have
a referendum to put pressure on Ottawa that we might leave,
(43:48):
just to threaten we might leave. I think that's a
bad idea because it's threatening business won't invest in Alberta
while it's unclear what our future is.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Scult had a referen in him a couple of years
ago about trying to break away from the UK. What's
the reason for Alberta wanting to go alone?
Speaker 4 (44:07):
So, well, it's to do with taxes, basically, a lot
of people and Alberta think, we pay a lot of
taxes and then it gets sent to Ottawa and then
that gets redistributed around the country and Alberton's think we
get a unfaired deal out of that.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
It's a very resourceful county. You suppose a province.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Oh yes, Alberta is the most wealthiest province, well so wealthiest,
the most resource rich of all the provinces. And we
may Alberta makes a absolute fortune off the oil and
that because of that, the oil companies pay a lot
of money to have Alberton's work for them, and so
(44:51):
they pay more taxes because of it. And we don't
get the services that say eastern provinces get because they
don't have as much. So the Ottawak gives money to
the have not provinces before they give it to the
have provinces.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
So in that case, would Alberta to be an independent
stay to such? How would it work?
Speaker 4 (45:13):
That is the great question? Andy, No one knows.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
So what does a rural community make of all this,
I dare say they want to stay as this and
the status quo.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
You would think so, but no, the rural community is
the is where the bulk of the separatists are. So
the folk in Edmonton and Calgary read there. They are
typically more left leaning and so they want to stay
(45:42):
in Canada, whereas the very far right I'm more prone
to want to leave.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
It's interesting, Hey, it's coming up to springtime. This is
very much New Zealand thing to say. But is there
a concern around rentlesnakes and the lights coming out at
this time of year? I've made me when you first
went over there was it a concern where you just like,
how do you just deal with them? Because they they
are scared of you, then you're scared of them.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
So when I first came over here, I was down
the States. I mean I went straight down to the
States to do the harvest, and I was very ignorant
to them, and we were running around through cornfields and
bare feet and didn't think much of it. And yeah,
up here in Canada, there's only rattlesnakes in this in
southern parts, like sort of southeast and east of Calgary
(46:31):
and up where I am, just towards Edmonton, there is
nothing but the odd garter snake, though harmless, and you
don't see them. Yeah, there's the rattlesnakes and those hazardous
creatures aren't really here unless you're talking bears and moose,
right and.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
The rest of you. See how that's going to pan
out as well, as well as this referendum on our birder. Hey, Greg,
thanks for your time once again. And next time we chant,
we'll see if we can decipher this bushel talk around
your government.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Sounds good mate, Thanks Eddie, laugh out loud with agg
proud because life on the land can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
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