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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One mortar Why time, Good afternoon, and welcome to the
Mason Hakanui. My name is Andy Muher. We hear him
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so too this afternoon, and the show is brought to
you by Petersonetics. On a cool, crisp afternoon, which has
been the same for the last few days. But that's
exactly what we're seeing here in the main street of Gored.
The temperature is hovering around three to four degrees a
minus one to three one degree frost this morning, rather cool.
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Phil Duncan of weather Watch is up shortly to give
us an understanding of the weather for the next seven
days here in the Deep South, but nonetheless we crank
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Speaker 1 (01:22):
This afternoon is partly cloudy. You have calm variable wins
zero and seven. Friday very similar partly cloudy with variable
winds zero and seven. Saturday sunshine with variable winds around
you again minus three and eight. Sunday sunshine with calm,
variable wins. That's the theme. You've got that by now
minus one and eight and on Monday partly cloudy. We
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lot north easterly three and eleven, so tempages to hand
for a Thursday. Clinton two point three, Harriet four point six,
Northern south On five point two, Riverton seven point seven
to on our four point nine, Tataroa not available today
one to three points seven and Woodlands at six. Phil Duncan,
like I say of weather Watch, giving us a rundown
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in the southern weather for the next seven days, and
what we can expect as far as he's frost, are
we going to see a run of them? Certainly cool
enough in the mornings to expect that. Steve Henderson FARMI
at Abadu or we catch up with Steve O see
how things are down there, getting towards the bottom of
the South. Best Donderman is in the Beef and Lamb
slot talking about a workshop that's coming up at the
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Lodge with Beef and Lamb, all about leadership, Michelle Watt
and the country Crossover and then Nathan Brand and our
resident sporting guru. The Galbraf Shield is on the line
on Saturday. It is the Barbars of course, up against
pirates old Boys, and the Stag Squad has been released
and a lot of names in there are unfamiliar to
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people in the South, so what can we expect there?
And as well, before we crack into a special mention
at Juane Kyle playing his fiftieth game for Kiwi on
fifty Well done, Sonny. Hopefully you make some tackles this week. Right,
we'll crank and do it. Starting off for Phil Duncan
out of weather Watch. This is the muster on Hakanui.
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This is the muster on Hakanui. Time to catch up
with the wheeler many.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Check.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I know, good afternoon, Phil Duncan of weather Watch. Do
you tip your feet when you Alanas Morrissey?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
It comes on the right, Oh, of course they do
crank up the volumes.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
How the house things been? I mean from a meteorological perspective,
it's been a hectorqueak around New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
It has been a very very busy week this week
with all the weather. You know, we've had this big
low up around the top of the country, which didn't
cause a lot of severe weather in the north of
New Zealand, but is the reason why we saw that
flooding going as fast south as Otago and certainly affecting
north Canterbury and parts of Marlborough. So yeah, it was
busy and slow.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
This rain started at the start of the week and
it's still falling today around Canterbury and it has eased
a lot though, and now most of the heavy stuff
is up around Norman Hawks Bace. So it's been a
long week and of course going into a long weekend
means there's a million people ask what's going on?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, what is going on on the million on the
one million? Some first yes, right.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Well, not a lot going on for you guys, to
be honest with you. But it's going to be I
mean it is cold already, but it's not going to
get colder necessarily, but it's going to lock it south
in and so a bit of a cloudy day today.
Maximum have only around six degrees, so I haven't said
that to you.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
I don't think this year.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
And yeah, like I say, fairly cloudy. So if you're
wanting to look at the stars tomorrow morning for Masadiki,
Southland's actually Northern Southland's one of the better places in
the country to go stargazing if you want to get
up early in the morning and do that. Tomorrow maximum
around seven and Saturday around eight and similar to Sunday,
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but the overnight temperatures plummet this weekend, so you've got
zero around zero minus one for tonight and Tomorrow night,
but around negative three negative four going into Saturday night
Sunday morning, So pretty heavy frost coming true for Sunday,
but Sundays looking like a beautiful day. Sun should be
out and then when we all sort of go back
to work or those farmers never stop. As you go
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back on Monday, the temperatures warm up into the double
digits and they do that for a couple of days.
So it's going to get a little warmer early next
week and that'll remove the frosts. But yeah, frosty conditions
expected if the clouds break up enough tonight and will
last right through until Monday morning.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, the thing about having a frost in the morning,
foll and you'll know this pretty well being based where
you are, is that you get a fantastic afternoon full
of blue sky and sunshine. It's cool and crisp, and
you'd expect nothing less.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Yeah, exactly beautiful weather. You know. I think we get
very few complaints about frost, you know, it's quite interesting.
That's one of the things unless you're a grower and
you're growing stuff and you know, don't want to frost
at certain times of the year. But most people don't
mind a frost and they quite enjoy it. Actually, even
as far north as where I am up in Auckland,
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you'll probably hear a lot more people moaning about the cold,
but they still love a frost. That there's something about
a frost on a sunny day that really wakes you up,
makes you feel good about life, all that kind of stuff.
It depends on what you do for a living though,
of course, and what you can I think if I
was a plumber, I don't know if I would like
your frost that you get in northern Southland. That might
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stress me out a bit. Rather than sleeping in I've
got to go and deal with first water pipes and stuff.
But yeah, they're beautiful. And the only downside of the
frost is if you get that cloud that rolls in
just after the sun's come up, and that is possible.
That is possible tomorrow around parts of Southland, which can
make it very bleak whether it.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Is like that.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
So yeah, you need the sun to be after the frost.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
There's nothing like a slurry tanker cranking up a minus three.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, right, yep, Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
As far as wind's, Easterlys and the likes, we've had
a bit of a chill over the past couple of days,
just part and parcel of the weather system.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah, I mean you've been on the edge of what
was going on further up to the South Island, and
that was a cold wind. I mean, Easteries often are
in the South Island. They are in the North Island
too quite a lot of the time. So yeah, cold
cold winds blowing through. The wind's not going to be
much of a feature over the next several days. They're
pretty light. When high pressure is actually building, it's very
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very slow moving coming.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Out of Tasmania.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Here's a fun fact about the high that's rolling in
though it is highly likely that it has broken the
record in Australia for their highest ever air pressure that's
been recorded, beating the last record, which I believe was
around nineteen sixty seven or sixty nine, sometime around then,
so it's been a long time. They nearly broke that
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record a few years ago or a couple of years
ago with a very powerful high that also I think
might have broken some records in New Zealand. So winter
is the time of year we get our most powerful
high pressure zones. In summer. You know, a lot of
people think we get them they're more powerful in summer.
They're actually not. But what happens in summer is they
all tend to link up and so you get one
high after the other. In winter, they're a lot more individual,
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kind of like a mountain, like Mount Taranaki. It's just
this big thing that sticks up, you know, on the
weather mat. So the one they had in Tazzi is
coming your way. It is weakening those it moves in
and it's slower moving, but it means that the winds
won't be very strong, so you're probably not going to
really notice whend until the end of next.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Week, describe air pressure and a bit more detail.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Oh, it's kind of hard to do it. You get
these sort of bubbles of high pressure, so like the
planet's always got the air pressure always balances itself out.
So if you end up with a whole lot of
high pressure in one area, there'll be another area getting
a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Of low pressure.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
As we've mentioned last week, the waterbed scenario where if
you lean on one side, the other side pops up,
so we get a lot of that highs. They're very
The way I see them in my mind is like
if you're at the bottom of a waterfall and you
see all the bubbles that the waterfall makes, and they
all sort of bubble up and then they float along
with the current and then they dissipate. That's a little
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bit like what we get with high pressure zones. They're
kind of like these bubbles of high pressure, and they're
tracking along with the current, the westerly current that goes
around the southern hemisphere, and so they float along and
they're always a different shape. They always pop up in
different areas and then they disappear again, and so it's
a fluid kind of thing, and that's always changing. So
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when people say to me, oh, we've never had a
winter like this because we're getting, you know, a southeasterly
wind for three weeks in a row, that's usually because
of a high pressure zone that's just in a different position,
or it's stuck somewhere. It's not necessarily a sign of
anything else major that's changing with our atmosphere or where
the most of the wind and rain we get is
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all about where is the high pressure. So the loads
bring the wind and the rain, but high pressure zones
kind of decide where that will be roundabout like a
roundabout in the sky kind of thing. The traffic goes
all around it.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
That's a good way to put us like the Jetsons
came to life. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Phil Dugan of Where the Watch, we always appreciate your
time when the muster. Enjoy the long weekend.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Cheers man, you too.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Pill Dungan of Where the Watch go and check him
out on his social channels to an outstanding job regarding
the meteorological situation for the Deep South. This is the
muster up next, Steve Henderson, We're up together, lucky. This
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is the muster on Hakanui as we head down to
Aldora and catch up with Steve Henderson Dairy farming down
that way. Good afternoon, Steve A daft Punker's the yartist.
That song there a lot of people won't be familiar with,
to be perfectly honest, but it was their breakout called
Defunk in nineteen ninety seven and twenty nine years young.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
Yeah, he was eleven toe tapping at them and what's
that form one in the school discuss college?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, wow, passing behind the pe shead.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
It's a bit of history.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Heren't it pretty much?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Mate? Look, how are you faring down there? It's been
crazy weatherwise around the south. How are you going?
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I think it has.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
It's sort of been a winter that has been winter,
but not really type thing. So we've had one or
two frosts, you know, not long long frosts. They've gone
by nine o'clock. But we've sort of had reasonably mild
temperatures with quite a bit of rain and near this'east
to these stuff coming through which the east to these
usually a spring or even a late spring, and you
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can often.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Get a week of it.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
But yeah, we're just we're just we're just wet, no
real drying during the days, but it is winter, but
we haven't had those you know, those real hard froth
which I'm not sure for the this of the Selton
is getting. But yeah, we're sure that you can't get in.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Them minus one this morning talking to Phil Duncan just before,
we've got a run of them going up.
Speaker 8 (12:40):
So yes, we hear, oh yeah, no, I don't mind
them as long as it doesn't go overcast and makes
for a dreary day. But it sounds trying to pave
the seat out today and yeah, well what are we almost?
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Mid July?
Speaker 8 (12:52):
Days are getting you know, progressively longer, and you do
notice it.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
So that was to curving and the birds are trueping
them the background. There's a nice little bit of ambience
you've got for us today.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
Yeah, pretty heavy birds. Must be the sun they got
them all up. So now we do things right down
here and keep the birds in the trees.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So your swedes this year you have been grass winteringly,
grass wintering previously. Sorry, hell are they going? I suppose
well this time of year and it's been a but
we've probably been pretty good.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Yeah they have been. Yeah, yeah, were you'd have presonably
well were is expected, I should say for their crops,
so they're holding up pretty good. And yeah, although it's
been the utilization of swedes is always quite good. You
could get there the next day and the ol chaos.
They've hoovered up all the remaining bulbs and they do
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a pretty good job. So no, the swede certainly have
a purpose high in me feed and you walk transition
back on the village. But as early carv is try
and get it seen the fourteen days. I think it's
what we're trying down for. And they have a k
calving down as best transmissions at weekend and here.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So are you mentally preparing yourself for carving?
Speaker 8 (14:04):
Yeah, I think every year you go heat calv is
a busy time of the year. You've got to be
really endure these things. But as long as your calfsheds
are ready in your cow sheeed's really just been round
around or hearing going open the gates at the front.
It's a bit as real as you can be. And
then it sort of just slowly winds into it and
August is actually not the busy month of September we
find the busiest with almost all your replacements on hand
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and you're starting to think about put a third on
paddocks and all those other jobs around. So don't don't
mind it unless you know what you're doing. And if
you're not, really you've still got a bit of time
up you leave early August to get those other week
jobs done. It you've forgotten about.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
So what's your major focus at the moment then, I mean,
we're still going through the winter cycle, for sure, but
you look at what needs done. You've got your cheek clist,
like Center goes through his list two or three times.
I presume Steve O's are same. Just make sure everything's
underway for carving.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Here we do.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Yet we had to catch up with the team a
couple of weeks ago to see what we want to
have the best winter, and there will be no different
to any other dary farmers. Tapegates, pair on fences and
calsh sheats, so we're getting around on truly through the casheds.
We're putting up. Actually a bit more wind break at
the means of sheets this year, just well with the
easterly is we're just head and you get those easterlies
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in the spring, so a bit of wind break going
up the chips in and probably just going around winding
up reels that have been holding fences up where they
don't need to be. So, you know, a day with
a post driver and again behind you with some flies
and a bit of wire, you know, makes those jobs
a lot easier in spring when you knock down past
those gates that you need to team to really fixed again.
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So yep, if we get a let downe by d July,
I think we've done a pretty good Imagine it here.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
How often do you find a team me becomes a
hazy Yanti is saying, I just I've been doing this
day in, day out for months, but I don't understand.
Why do you ever find real or understand that they're
not on the same page as what you're thinking? Does
that occur often with you?
Speaker 8 (16:01):
Na, We're probably pretty lucky. So I'll get our straight
away while we're doing it, or I don't understand, Yeah,
there's not too many. We'll keep doing it for a
while and then go keep why are we doing this so?
And I'll often question it too. So I'll start right
at the start, is to you know, what we're trying
to get out of the outcome, and then and then
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how it all works and why we're doing it, and
then even back to you know, the math behind it.
So when that person leaves, they've got a full understanding
of why you're doing it, what conditions score the care
wants to be it, so to speak, and why it's
important and follow that story through for a couple of
minutes to carving down, getting back in car milk production
and the longevity of the care. So as long as
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they know the full story, it doesn't have to take
ten years to tell it, but you know, a couple
of minutes to give the whole picture. Yeah, it literally
means a thousand words, but you can probably do it
in twenty. So that's what we're trying to do. And yeah,
eitherbody knows when they leave.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So one of the biggest things you find on the
farm with your team communication how far does it go?
Speaker 9 (17:04):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
They we're catching up now and we use a chat.
So you will use a resolution chat, which is really
good for just those quick queries or the old while
you're out there. This has popped up, so you could
do that while you're out there type of thing rather
than getting back and going I'm all done and I'm
keeping up. Actually have a job that could have been done,
so that that chet's pretty good. But also the phone call.
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You know, I don't spoon feed anyone. So if they
ring and it's a question that they could answer themselves,
you sort of hint that they can work it out themselves,
and they and they will, then they go, oh that's right,
carry on. And then in springtime where we run our
tes because they're so instant in springtime you need to
be where's the instant with kels going past the gate
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or you know, grabbing that warrior there. So the communications
key our.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Teas are a great tour on the farm. We used
to have them what's a bottom time had a cattle flatten.
They are a fantastic tool just for getting instant messages
there as well, especially when the ages of cell phones
were in their early infant were in their early stages.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Yeah, you're right, Yeah, yeah, I mean also, you know,
you suthing in your top pocket under two parkers and
your hands are wet and they don't work so good.
But the old irt you can grab it and sort
of mumble something and most people understand what you're trying
to say. So, yeah, we use them and they work.
YEA God's especially over those two months, and when people
are starting to leave them behind or you only use
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them once or twice a day, we pullp in and
kick them up and go back to cell phones. So yeah,
we've done that for quite a few years, and I
don't think we'll change it this year.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
It seems to work.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
And yeah, there's not too much other technology out there
that can be that instant. Perhaps yelling, but half the
time it's two out of yelling. I wouldn't listen to
some bug of it yell at me, so I wouldn't
listen to it either.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I've always seen that. I'll never forget. Once upon a
time mustering with Dad and we're on two separate ridges
and just yelling across at each other. And we got
home that day and I thought my lungs were going
to a film. My voicebox is going to drop out
of my head.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
You can do it a great attention, but it should
be a long day. If kids are bloody good yelling all.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
The time, and it alks are good to yelling at kids.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
I'll have the story for another day.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It is Steve, Hey, get on your mate, we'll catch
up once again. Enjoy the afternoon. Always appreciate your chat
to Steve Henderson Bay stat Alro You're listening to the
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Speaker 1 (19:55):
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Croyd and Ldshare and going a couple of weeks called
Strong Leadership, Great People, all about empowering people in your
workplace environment. Good afternoon, Becks and welcome good a.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah? Pretty good? Now this workshop is pretty relevant for
a lot of people. You look at leadership and different
leadership qualities and a lot of things to look at.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, there is. It's certainly a complex beast, and I
think you know, we can often over complicate it.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
It's just about doing.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
The things really well that we do every day and
taking our people along that process with us. So you know,
it's focusing what happens inside the farm gate first before
we worry about being leaders outside the farm gate.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I mean, are leaders made or are they raised?
Speaker 11 (20:51):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Look, leaders are certainly made.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
There's plenty of things we can encourage, and in part
from our experience.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Along the way.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
You know, people need to be motivated and they need
to see a pathway that they can follow. So I think,
you know, there's plenty of opportunity for our farm owners
and managers to encourage younger people coming through.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
One of the things is about exploring work styles and
personality types. I mean, we've all heard about the Maya
Briggs test that people could do. These various things around
are very similar to that. Is what can people expect
toward turning up?
Speaker 11 (21:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Sure, So you know.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Personality is are always It's a really interesting part of
any workshop, and we have a lot of fun looking
at different personalities. But what it comes down to is
firstly understanding our own personality and that gives us some
important information about why.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
We react the way we do in certain situations.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And then it's about understanding the personalities of people and
our teams and knowing how they're going to react or
might react in certain situations. It's about it's about preparing
us for having good conversations so that when things may
be change or don't go to plan on farm, we're
much better prepared for how our team will react.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
A big thing for people as well was regarding an
introvert versus extrovert scenario. Now with introverts as well, I've
seen it before. I've got mates who are very quiet, unassuming,
unassuming characters. You go along and do something, you ain't
hear boo out of them for the afternoon, but they'll
say what a good time they've had. I mean, that's
just how people operate. So it's horses for courses as well.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, Look, that comes down to really understanding our people, right,
So if.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
We know that that's what they're like, then it means,
you know, we.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Might have a conversation with them at the end of
the day to see how they're getting on rather than
throughout the day, because we know that they're not going
to speak up in a group. They're not you know,
they're not going to be the first one to put
their hands up. And then on the flip side, there
will be those people that are quite happy to triple
in chipping along the way. So it's about really understanding
who we've got working around.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Us, because leadership is something you need in a team environment.
Now want of coming up very close to carving, you're
not too far away from lambing, still a wee way away,
but nonetheless, look, you've got to get the dynamics right
and it's all about getting everybody on the same page.
So I suppose a question is, what's one thing off
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the top of your headbecks for somebody who's listening regarding
those team dynamics, what's one thing you should focus on.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I think it's it's really good question, Andy. You know
it comes back to understanding your people. So what conversations
can you have with your team before you get to
that busy period to know how they like to work,
what things they like around them, how they don't like
to work, So that when you're planning and you know it,
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putting together processes and systems for lambing and carving, you
know each individual team members going to suit a slightly
different way. And while it feels like, well maybe everyone
should just slot into the way I want to do things,
I think it's important to remember as a leader, we
have to operate in all those different personalities to get
the best out of our people.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
What happens if there's too many leaders?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Well, I guess yeah, you know, too many leaders is
a really is that a real thing?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I think.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
It's about everyone understanding their roles and where they fit
in the team. So everyone can be a leader of
different aspects of a business. So if people understand where they.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Fit, sure, let them go. Let them lead that part
of part of the farm or part of the system.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
So essentially is that your work what you're doing in
the workplace. It's about identifying strengths and weaknesses and understanding
how they work.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Absolutely, that's a key element of being a leader is
understanding your people, know what their strengths are, know where
they need to develop some skills and make.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
It happen for them. You know, that's our job as
a leader.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
So anybody who attends this workshop, what are they going
to learn during the course of the afternoon or the day.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, so we will work around a little bit of
that personality stuff. We're going to look at stages of
team development, so how teams.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Form and a cycle that they go through as they
develop and grow.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
They're going to come home with some really cool practical
team plates around how to have good conversations and how
to plan well.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
So you know, those are the.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Key things how different people will communicate, team stages and personalities.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Now, the workshop's happening on the twenty first of July
at the Croydon Lodge Becks. People need to register it
or turn up on the day. What's preferred absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
If people could register, that's really helpful for us in
terms of material and catering.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Of course, which is always important.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But yeah, so if they can register through the Beef
and Lamb website on the events page.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
That'd be wonderful. I know we've got quite a.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Number registered already, so it would be great to lock
it in. I'm really looking forward to getting down to
Gore and meeting.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Some more people.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So your register. We call it the cheese roll factor
in Southam because you don't want to be too many
cheese rolls short.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
No, absolutely not. I wouldn't want to miss out.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Hey, beg Sanksy time on the must of this afternoon
and yeah, all the best. It sounds like a really
interesting course and I mean if people would know about leadership,
sounds like the perfect revenue. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Excellent, Thanks very much, Andy, Come.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Thanks Donderman regarding the Strong Leadership Great People Workshop happening
at the Croyd and Lodge on the twenty first of
July at one pm. Of course, Beef for Lair New
Zealand beeflaminz dot com slash events to receive the e
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Next Michelle, What and the country Crossover? This is the
Muster maybe the.
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daft Punkers the artist. The song is around the World.
Where in the world will Mark Dylan's tractor end up? Next?
Speaker 11 (27:42):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Who knows?
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Isn't this just such a crazy story? Imagine booking your
equipment to go somewhere and then finding out it hadn't
even left the port where you originally had it packed up,
but it's still sitting there.
Speaker 11 (27:55):
I believe.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
So it's absolutely crazy. I mean I was talking to
him on the phone earlier this morning and I said
I had a similar situation, but mine was a lot
less dramatic in the way of equipment with losing my
road bike in transit going to an event, and I
can tell you from peeding overseas is nothing worse and
losing your gear especially you know, things that are absolutely
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pivotal that you cannot borrow. And I completely understand, you know,
and the im mediately so saying that borrowing isn't really
an option, I can completely understand that when you're competing
at that level, it's not ideal and it's really puts
a lot of stress on you.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
For competition, you wouldn't expect that kind of thing to happen,
especially with a tractor like that movie you do Were's
Ma Car. Well, this is the next level up. But look,
you've got air tags and the likes of e tags
these days. You can hook them on here and see
where things are going. But you think of the track
that you wouldn't need it.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Well, you think a track to would be a fairly
obvious thing, wouldn't it. It's not exactly small like losing
a bag and Hestro Airport. It's a large piece of equipment.
You think it would be fairly obvious where was found
or where it was located. But we'll watch the story
with interest. Hopefully they get some help with this through
public publicity across the media. Of course, he was on
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HOSS this morning as well, so hopefully they managed to
get their equipment over there in time, because of course
they're competing in September, so it doesn't leave them much
time now to get the equipment over there, and obviously
they have to go through checks and all that sort
of stuff like you do with any sort of world
championship with that equipment as well, so it's quite a
it's a big.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Deal, and to get over there this year for Vibe,
it's pretty important because he's got a coach. He has
a plowing coach, and it is a thing.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
Oh this is cool, isn't it. I never realized people
had plowing coaches, But you've coaches for everything, and I
guess you do need coaches for It's a sport just
like any other sport, isn't it, where you need someone
to sort of help fine tune your ability, fine tune
what you're doing. Plowing is not just jumping in the
tractor at this level and driving along and plowing a
trying to plow a straight line. There's a lot more
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to it than that.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Where did you take your bike overseas?
Speaker 9 (29:58):
I went to Europe. I've been over there a couple
of times. One time was to Denmark and I've lost
my bike. I think on the way home we lost
a bike, and on the way over there we lost
a bike as well once and my bag got lost
and Heathrow Airport for over a week once. So yeah,
I'm the Queen of lost luggage.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I know I have an individual that's got pink suitcases,
so as luggage doesn't get lost. The Greens and economics,
you go to school and learn education, right, And unfortunately
the Greens, when they've come out of some policies over
the past couple of days, you wonder if the school
we actually worked for a few of these individuals, I
mean the synthetic fertilizer band which they wish to implement
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over time, getting rid of cows and the likes. And
I talked about the example yesterday. You think of Sri
Lanka back in twenty twenty one, did the same thing
they ended up reversing at six months later and it
cost the government their jobs.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
Oh, it's just absolutely insane, isn't it. I was listening
to Heather during the week about the synthetic fertilizer thing.
I already knew about it. There was we got we
get heady releases and all that sort of stuff. I
read it and thought, well, that's a bit weird and
sort of carried on, and you know, went into investigating it,
looking at getting something on the show at a later
a later day or this week sometime, because it was
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near the start of the week. And then the thing is,
it is just so it's so weird and such a
crazy policy. I think most people looked at it because
either was wondering why they wasn't more made out of it.
But I think people most people read it and thought,
well that's a bit odd and just carried.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
On with life.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Or maybe we're desensitized to these policies coming out now, Andy,
do you.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Think Chris Hopkins must sit there and shake his head.
Even Damian O'Connor, he must understand that this won't work.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Oh, it'll be interesting actually to catch up with Damien
hopefully next week. Jamie's back in the hot seat, and
we'll catch up with Damien about this and obviously the
Why Tucky issue as well with their rates. But this, yeah,
it'd be interesting to hear his take on it, because
he's all about sustainable farming, but I don't know that
he would want to take it that far. And I
do want to how the Labor Party feel about this policy.
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The fact they've moved Steve Able further down their list
on the Green Party list kind of surprised me as well,
because he's the one person that actually has a connection
to farming in that party. So it was very interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
What was your favorite subject to school? Was it economics
or maths of the likes?
Speaker 9 (32:18):
Neither of those two really. No, maybe a bit of science,
but mainly English, believe it or not, was my top subject.
And obviously the good old pe sports and stuff like that,
that was my thing.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I enjoyed economics. So I remember back in forth form,
back in on Marudsis and Kevin's and mister Stad with
a deep English accent talking about commodities, and it's just
stuck with me to this day. John pimb And, of
you're listening, you know exactly what I'm talking about there,
how do you find AOI, Michelle, Because there's a lot
of good around it, but is it progressing too fast?
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Is it taking away your ability to think?
Speaker 9 (32:55):
I think that's probably the scary thing about it, is
relying on it too much. I think a lot of
it is around education with artificial intelligence, so it's more
it's not always one hundred percent correct, So you do
need to check stuff. You can't just throw something in
and think it's right, especially when it comes to the likes.
We've done a lot of discussion on this this week
on the show with Innovation Week. The likes of farming
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is a good example. So there's some reliable sort of
AI sources with Bala with Beef and lamb website they
have their own one, and in darien Z have their
own one as well, and they're reliable sort of sources
of being able to gather information. But however, if you
go into just some of the others, you don't know
what information where it's going to pull it from. So
you might ask, I want to be able to grow
a certain type of grass at a certain type of year,
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how much of X y Z do I need? You
need to go through and double check all that information
because you don't know if they're pulling it from America,
from England from somewhere else. It still needs to be checked.
But it is a very valuable tool. And like I
pointed out, those two that I mentioned, the one on
darien Zed and the one on Beef and lamb great
for being able to consolidate information from that website and
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work out some knowledge in a shortened way, but you
still have to check stuff. It is a great tool,
but I think people just need to be weary of
it and not fear it, but learn more about it
and not just plow on ahead. It is a worry,
like you said that we're going to stop using our brains,
and it's something that I'm very aware of the creativity
side of it. Are we going to lose that? That's
what I'm worried about. There's a lot of AI posts
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out there right and posters and all that sort of stuff.
Now are we going to lose that ability to be
able to create things?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
The Tour de France. You're a tragic for this. You
stay up all night watching it.
Speaker 9 (34:32):
Not a tragic I get up early in the morning
because of the time difference. Andy I was up this
morning watching the stage through Po. Beautiful city Po. If
you ever get the chance to go there, it's probably
around the same size as the Need and it's the
entrance to the Pyrenees. Pretty much beautiful part of France,
right down the south of France, near the border or yeah,
reasonably far enough away from the border of Spain but
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not too far. But beautiful part of the world. They
love their rugby down there. Worth a visit. But this morning,
of course, we were watching that stage. It was fantastic
and I really enjoyed just the.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Drama of it.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
We're only in day I think it's stage four. I
get mixed up because of the time difference, so still
a few weeks to go yet, but exciting times. I
really enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Did you see that crash the other day? They are
going towards in the sprint, towards the line. Some old
lady drives out on her mobility scooter and just is
a mess of crash.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
Oh, there's some There's been some crazy stuff over the years.
There's been horses run. A horse got loose one ear
and running amongst them on the highway somewhere in the
south of France. There's been dogs. That was probably more
recent one where a dog ran out into the platon. Now,
just to put into context how dangerous this is, Andy,
in a crash, those guys in the ploton are sometimes
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getting up to speeds of over fifty kilometers an hour
depending on what kind of road they're on, so they're
going pretty fast. To crash your bike at that speed
into something is not great. And you think about, I'm
just comparing this to the football players, Andy. The football
players right sort of go down, someone stands on their
big toe. These cyclists have these massive crashes, get back
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up and still bike to the finish line.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Michelle Watt enjoy the long weekend.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
Yeah, go England in the World Cup. No Norway, no
England support England.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
No, it's coming home. It's coming home for Chell White
and the country Crossolder thanks to bioactive soils. Up next,
Nathan Burdon.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
One more.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Welcome back to the muster. Nathan Burden as our residence
sporting guru. Nathan, good afternoon. How's in the cargo today?
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Yeah, it's a lovely.
Speaker 11 (36:43):
Blue sky day, mate, And we'll definitely take that, won't
we With all this sort of weather that's happening up country.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
The Southern Stag squad twenty twenty six is released. I've
got one word regarding it, unproven.
Speaker 11 (36:56):
Yeah, it looks like a young, unproven. It's a young
looking squad, isn't it, especially when you when you look
at that backline as well, and you know the likes.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
Of there's some obviously some gaps here.
Speaker 11 (37:09):
Fuller Toy Penny, who's been such a such a comer,
I guess in that in that midfield for the Stags
the last couple of years, obviously one of the victims
of that Mawana Pacificus situation.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
So yeah, there is there's some players there. I guess.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
We've seen them come up, you know, they've been coming
up through those development ranks.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
There's been some great.
Speaker 11 (37:31):
Work done by the likes of Scott ad Marty McKenzie,
Matt Saunders before him to sort of bring these young
players through, and there was always going to be a time,
I suppose, when they had to start actually proving themselves
at the NPC level, and it looks like it's going
to be twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
A couple of Japanese players in there. I found it
interesting on the Stags on the social channels saying this
does great things for the Invercago Kumagaya relationship, of course
being sister cities. But my initial reaction was, what has
that got to do with rugby?
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Yeah? Interesting angles that one, isn't it.
Speaker 11 (38:03):
I'm not sure I completely disagree with you, to be honest,
look to be honest, and I don't think this is
a massively controversial call. But the Stags are an interesting spot.
I guess as a as a franchise or as a
representative team, I don't think we put the same sort
of heat on the Southland Sharks or the Southern Steel
(38:24):
in terms of, you know, are they bringing young, young
talent through.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
We do expect that that's what the Stags will be.
Speaker 11 (38:29):
It'll be it'll be our Southland based team. But where
there's holes, you know, we need to bring players in
that can provide that framework around our young players. When
I say this, I guess the locally developed young players
to give them a chance to shine. So that's just
the reality. And we're a small union. We have to
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do that if we want to be competitive against the
big unions. So and that's what we see, I guess,
especially late in the season, you see a number of
these players that are coming in for them from basically
all over the world.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Galbray's Shield final on Saturday, Pirates Old Boys against Eastern
Northern Barbarians are repeat of the final from two years ago.
Pobs have been there or thereabouts I think the last
four seasons or something ridiculous. Barbars won the title their
only title in twenty sixteen. What do you think's gone unfold?
Speaker 11 (39:21):
Yes, it's gonna be really interesting And to be honest,
I mean Pirates Old Boys they just have such great
depth across their club. They've set up a great culture
there and they've they've created a clubrooms that people want
to be a part of. And because of that they've
got they've just got players across the board. I guess
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the outcome of that is that, as you say, they
are there or thereabouts when it's when it's come to
finals rugby in recent years, can they get across the
line in this one?
Speaker 7 (39:52):
You know, the Barbers dove set the pace all year.
Speaker 11 (39:55):
I think they've only dropped one game and they've got
potentially a talent for them. Morgan Mitchell, but this could
potentially be his last game of last game of rugby
so what a swan song it would be for him.
I was actually really surprised when you think about when
I think about the Barbarians. You know, they have been
a pacesetter for Club Rugby for some time. The fact
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that they've only won one Gabro's Shield title and it
was ten years ago, actually surprised me. But yeah, I'd
put a dollar each way to be fair.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I mean, the Barbars there Lucy's, they're proven, they've got
a good bench as well this weekend. But you look
at the other side of the coin and Greg Dyer
quite simply sits in the pocket. And that final two
years ago he just kicked them into submission and he
kicked for territory and found it every time. So he's
so pivotal to this POB side.
Speaker 11 (40:47):
Yeah, and we saw that in the semi final. The
pob we're in a little bit of trouble potentially against
Woodlands early early in that game, and then Greg Dye
obviously they're coming off the farm out at window them
and coming into town. I think he kept sort of
three penalties in the space of five to ten minutes.
It's to turn the momentum of that game towards Pirates.
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Old boys and they and they got the win. So
you're right, a little general with plenty of finals experience.
He's played all around the world as well, so you know,
so vital out out there at Least George. They'll have
a they'll have a nice dry track, there'll be there'll
be a big thing. Obviously, good move by Rugby South
and to move that away from Rugby Park which is
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a bit damp at the moment and send it out
to Least George. It'll be a great atmosphere. It's a
real amphitheater, a real bowl out there, so i'd imagine
it'll be packed with supporters from the country and from
the town.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Is Rugby Park that bad at the moment.
Speaker 11 (41:46):
I haven't trot across it myself, but I would imagine
things in town are actually reasonably went under foot, So yeah,
I would say it's you know, and obviously with NPC
just around the around the corner, they won't want to
be doing too much damage to it at the moment.
But less George, I actually think that it's a great
scene for for a Gabro Shield final to be honest,
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as I say, that sort of amphitheater effect that you
get all the cut, all the cars pulled up.
Speaker 7 (42:13):
And that sort of thing.
Speaker 11 (42:14):
You forget a decent enough afternoon, it'll be a great
place to be.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
So what's your call? Who wins?
Speaker 7 (42:20):
I thought I was doing my best.
Speaker 11 (42:23):
To sit on the seat there on the sit on
the fence.
Speaker 7 (42:26):
Look, I guess I'll go.
Speaker 11 (42:27):
I'll go back to my country, Pirates roots, and I'll
and I'll go, I'll go the bar Bars.
Speaker 7 (42:33):
But I've got a good.
Speaker 11 (42:34):
Friend of mine, Andrew Morton, who puts a hek of
a lot into that Pirates old Boys club, so so
he'll be hating that call.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
But yeah, I'll go bar Bars.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I'll go Bars by seven now. Origin. Last night the
Blues break their duck. They won up in Brisbane, which
is pretty surprising and we're pretty convincing in the end
of it.
Speaker 11 (42:51):
Yeah, broke my heart to be honest at Queensland supporter,
and I guess it was all set up for the
for the Marines to take the take the series win
last night and see they just but that that Blues
team just played, played really well. And to be honest,
when they scored that long range trying the second half way,
you decided that I was hitting.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
For bid that was That was game over for me.
So yeah, just a mess of performance.
Speaker 11 (43:15):
Nathan Cleary was huge, wasn't he.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, go and count those four fingers on your left
hand as you go and salt mate. Hey, good on
your life and leave it there. Always good to catch up.
Speaker 11 (43:24):
A lovely thanks mate, laugh out loud.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
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(43:51):
for the week. Matto Riki is being observed tomorrow the
best of the must of five am Saturday morning. And
like we heard on the Country before, we talked about
in the Country crossover the situation with Mark Dylan and
as tractor and plow on the New Zealand team. Hopefully
he's a resolution we can find over the next couple
of days. We'll talk about this on the program next week. Nonetheless,
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I mean demure the muster's brought to Youbops gets enjoy
the weekend, and I'll say this one last time up
the bars one more. Hey, well I'll right too, heybic
go there and what did he go on again? PGG
Wrights and once again present stock selling action from the
Charlton sale Yard. It's with Dave Morrison on the ground
to give us a rundown of prices. Good afternoon, teagle, how.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Do we go afternoon? And yeah, present morning down to
the frning to start for the lambs. This lens three
forty three fifty three Hibbie Lembs Minyon them sort of
two forty two seventy of the light of the prime
lambs sort of wordy five to two hundred into the
muttin strong button market this day best used to forty
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milliam sort of one eighty one ninety with the light
of the prime scan. This is skin dry use obviously
sort of and thirty one hundred and fifty dollars stall
Aims and you can see you adding stall Avene here
today best of lambs through twenty three thirty milliums one
soon one ninety off the smaller blames one hundred and
thirty hundred and forty dollars. That pretty much wraps the
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morning up
Speaker 1 (45:17):
A thirty nine Who would a better than a thirty
nine dollars