March 9, 2026 • 47 mins
Andy Muir talks to Harriet Bremner, Laurie Margrain, Graham Butcher, Andrew Welsh, Richard Whyte and Sam Riley.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Good afternoon. Welcome to the muster on Hakanui, brought to
you by Peter's Genetics. My name's Andy Mueller. Thanks to
your company. Hope everything's going well as we face a
reasonably warm afternoon down here in the South. We'll say
reasonably warm. It's still only about seventeen or eighteen degrees
by the sounds of it, but it's better than a
kick out the butt with a hot poker, right considering
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the way the weather's been quite a bit to get
through for the hour, so we'll creep straight into it.
The music today is Foreigner.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm teff from and
soft text. The proof is in the progeny tear from
dot co dot inzead.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
This afternoon cloud with breezy easterlies and eighteen Wednesday cloudy.
You have come variable winds eleven and twenty one. Thursday
very similar cloudy. You have breezing. Your west is forming
eleven three. Friday Raybard breezies how westerly seven and seventeen
and Saturday afternoon showers of northwest is forming eleven and fifteen,
so temperatures clinton fourteen northern south on twelve point eight
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Riverton fourteen point seven to our thirteen point five, tonorow
A twelve point six, eleven point one at Woodland's thirteen
point three. Quite a busy week around the just no
matter what you're up to at the moment. We're speaking
to Harriet Remda shortly to start the show. Now she's
up at the Impact Summit which is happening in christ
(01:33):
Church and they're announcing the winner of the Zanda McDonald
Awards tonight. She's a previous winner, so he catch up
Harriet to see what the move's like up there and
what it means to be a winner of such a
prestigious award. Laurie Mark Graham's Chair of Open Country, We
catch up Graham Butcher Farm Consultant talking leasing. What you
need to know if you're looking at doing a lease
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for the first time. Good time of the song Actually
Andrew Wilsher twin Farm Ddix, a home of tear from
We catch up with Snow to see how things are going,
and Richard White and way Tani Young Farmers has a
young Sam Riley a PGG Rising gives us an update
on the stock sal of at occurred a lawn for
this morning just to remind her as well. The Wonker
Show The Muster broadcasting from the Wonker amp Show on Friday.
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Sheer where New Zealand's going to be there Alan McCleary
and co. They're going to be at site number fourteen
to Wanaka show. So go and catch up with Alan
Chew the Fat. You might even give you a coffee cup.
Who knows he's a good bugger. Anyway, we'll carry on
with the show now we're starting off with Harriet Bremner.
You're listening to the Muster until two o'clock thanks to
Peterson DDIX.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Checko see I got able hungrede.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Harriet Bremner joins us next. Now. She's worn a number
of hats over the years. She's a farmer and author
as well as being an advocate rural health and safety.
She was a Xander McDonald Award winner in twenty twenty
three and we talked to her this afternoon while she's
up there at the Impact Summit where the name means
the new Xander McDonald recipients tonight. So Harriet, great to
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chat once again.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Good ay, Andy, Yeah, it is thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Firstly, being up in christ Church before the alumni from
previous sand McDonald's must be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Oh look, it's really special. I actually grew up going
to school and things in christ Church. It's lovely to
be back and it's really neat to see six fresh
new faces here at the summit, awaiting the exciting unveiling
of the news tonight and of course catching up with
you know, what we see as a family. And you know,
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you're always reminded when you come to these things how
important it is to actually stop, take some time off
farm and come and connect with all these wonderful people
in here about what everybody's been up to. It's one
of those pinch yourself moments that you know, it actually
happened to you and I still still feel that way.
And just to have the privilege of being in the
same room of you know, everybody is just such a great,
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forward thinking, innovative person and you've there's so much to learn.
You know, you've got Shane mcmanaway leading the ship, and
people like himself to be able to tap him on
the shoulder and ask questions and you know, and get
a helping hand and a listening air is just you know,
something that money couldn't pay for, so it's a very
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special andy, Harriet.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
What was a catalyst for you entering the awards?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Oh, look, it was something that I'd followed for a
while and it was really you know, it was an
award that really spoke to me. It was actually my
mother in law who gave me the push and said,
you need to do this. My husband's brother was a
finalist early on in the piece when the award first started,
and I had heard how it was just such a
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special for people to be part of. And you know,
it's so different to other awards. It's so much more
than receiving a trophy and having a nice photo and
a trophy on your sideboard. It is about becoming part
of this family that you're a part of forever, and
the connections that you make and the mentorship that you receive,
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and it just encompasses so many things. I'd be here
all day if I could tell you about them all.
But yeah, it's definitely something that I would say to
people if they're thinking about it, if they're interested in it,
just have a go, because becoming part of the Alumni
is a life changing thing that will change the world
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and how you move forward in it forever.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, I suppose, and to narrow it all down, the
biggest takeaway from being involved with it was just the
opportunities that arose.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Ah, absolutely, and I would say the connections and relationships
with people. You know, it puts you in a position
where you can pick up the phone and wring somebody
across the ditch in Australia or anyone here in New Zealand.
They will open their doors to you, sit you down,
have a good chat, help you nut out any issues
or problems or challenges that you're facing, and also celebrate
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the ones with you as well. So you know a
lot of us are on the lookout for great mentors
and people that we can be under their wing with
and the award just offers all of that, you know,
a big buffet of it that I suppose.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Now this is all part of the Impact Summit where
the awards are happening tonight. What was the theme there
is such this year?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, it's an extremely special theme. We're in christ Church
and d fifteen years on from the earthquakes, which speaks
to me as I was here for those from solid foundations.
We rise as our theme this year and look we
had an amazing afternoon yesterday with the alumni with Elizabeth McNaughton,
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who actually four fronted and ran the relief group for
the christ Church earthquake after it happened. So she took
us through you know, disasters, how we can learn to
lead through them, how we can get through them, you know,
preparing ourselves for us an other disaster arose. Are we
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prepared for that? Do we know how to get ourselves
and our people through that? And so many amazing nuggets
of gold there and rich Green is currently talking to
us at the moment how we set up our businesses
to win. So yeah, it's going to be a jam
packed couple of days. So many wonderful people that are
presenting to us, and tonight we get to find out
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who this is one of us. So very exciting.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Fifteen years on from the earthquakes. You say you were
in christ Church when they occurred. What was your what's
your biggest memory about the event?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Oh goodness, it was actually my very first day teaching
in a classroom. I had five year old students. We obviously,
like everybody else, didn't know what really was going on,
but we had children that were not picked up from
school till quite late in that evening, and a child
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came up to me and said, excuse me, miss, My
mom and dad work in town. Do you think they're okay?
And I was, you know, twenty one years old, and
had this little face looking at me. We had only
heard what we had heard. We knew it wasn't good.
And I stood there and thought, my goodness, no one
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has prepared me for answering this question. You know, it
was not how I first saw my first day and
classroom teaching going. Yeah, and then from there after graduating
with my primary teaching the Plima, my first job into yoga.
Asked if I could handle pressure, and I could quite
confidently tell them that I survived through that year training
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to be a teacher amongst all the earthquakes, and you know,
children latching onto door frames every time there was a tremis.
So I felt that, yeah, I had learned some tools
by that stage to deal with pressure.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well, that must have been pretty confronting.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, look it was. And you know yesterday sitting in
that room sharing stories about the earthquake, and it's amazing
how your body and your mind you can take you
right back to how you felt in those moments. We
were living on anxiety and fear and no sleep for
a long time here in christ Church. And yeah, it's
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really quite hard to believe that it was fifteen years ago.
But it's great to come back to the city and
see what the city is. A community's done to try
and rebuild, you know, and that's what we're looking at
at summit here. How we rebuild, how we move forward,
and you know, how you surround yourself with the right
people in life that when you come to a tricky
situation and disaster, whatever that may look like for you,
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if you've got those right people around you, then you know,
it makes it that bit easier to put one foot
in front of the other and move forward.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Now, Harriet, you're based at black Mount. You were telling
me before we had a chat that you've had four
scenes in one day weather wise, and nothing's been normal lately.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Look, I think it started in spring andy on my
Lemming beat worth a eight hundred old miles of rain
in about six or seven weeks. I think that was
fairly depressing. And then we've actually had a great, a
great season summer wise. It hasn't been great boating weather,
but we haven't had time for that anyway. And you
know last week we had snow on the mountains in
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the morning, frozen windscreen, and then it was twenty eight
degrees in the afternoon. So it's take a jacket and
a pair of shorts to work at the moment, I think,
and it's feeling awfully all to me already. So I'm
not sure what you think, but we're not sure what
is in store for us this winter. Maybe another mild one,
maybe a cold one. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Harriet Bremner, Thanks very much for your time on the
must of this afternoon. It sounds like a fantastic occasion
up there of networking and just connecting with people in
the farming industry. It'll be great to see who the
winners are for the Xander McDonald Award this evening. Thanks
for your time.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Thanks Andy, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Harriet Bremner, farmer, author and advocate feral health and safety,
amongst other things. As well regarding the Xander McDonald Award,
which is being announced tonight. Lorry Margrain joins us next
from Open Country. Welcome back to the muster, Lorry Margrain,
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his chair of Open Country. We catch up with a
team on a regular basis. Murray, good afternoon. It is
autumn down here in the deep South up where you
were based up north. How's the season been pretty good? Andy?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Thank you welcome and nice to hear from you. No,
been a good year, I mean across the country south
of Otaga is no exception. There are sort of geographic
poppets which are different. But the milk flow has been strong.
It's been consistent, and it's hanging on very well into autumn,
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early autumn, in the beginning or winter in a few months.
I guess people are getting many cuts. Feed stops are high. Say,
milk supply is still good, and the price is not
disappointing people.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, the price will talk about that surely. But as
far as the milk supply compared to say this time
twelve months ago, Laurie, where would you say, it's that?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Oh, rup a few percent? I mean, I always I'm
always reluctant any to compare milk flows to prior years,
because you can have you have periods of a prior
year which are particularly bad or disappointing, and then you
compare a reasonable average year to that and it looks
like a flow's really up. I would say milk flows
are where you will expect within reason with the hard
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numbers we've got, the production per animal we've got, and
the grass conditions we've been getting, so we're not unhappy.
I think farmers really good at net Net as a
better than average year.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
We're saying good conditions for growing grass predominantly and a
lot of the province at the moment. Laurie, what's it
been like at North?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, pretty good? Any pretty good white cat o by
have plenty king country, et cetera. We don't go to
North and obviously Taranaki Mino or two you're pretty good.
I mean again, there are there are differences. I mean,
one of the weird things we get with these weather
patterns these days, you could get pretty healthy or even
substantial rains in one area and then ten k down
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the road you're getting richer nothing. But consistently it's been good.
I mean everybody. I think when you talk to farmers,
how are things? The answer usually begins with the word too.
It's too warm, it's too wet, it's too dry, it's
too windy, it's always too something. But net when you're
lean across the farm fence, I think the farmers are
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pretty happy and the grass grows where we've kind of
hope they'll be at the summer year.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
That's a farming prerogatives though. Lorry, though, is either one
of the other. It can't be the middle bowl of
porridg Oh hell.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
No no, because when you when you're when you're running businesses,
these farmers do with so many ponderables that you can't control.
You can never have perfection, you can never have things
exactly how you want to have them. Just doesn't work
that way. That's why our guys, our farmers, are so
good at what they do, because they know it, they
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understand it, and they deal with it.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, the Southern Field Days was a few weeks ago now, Laurie.
But from an open country viewpoint, how was it?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Oh fantastic. I mean the attendance. I don't know what
the official numbers were, andy to be Frank, I was
there for two days, never left the stand, well left
the stand once a day out of the bathroom, but
never left the stand, So it didn't get a chance
to do any wandering. But people were pouring in and
out of our marquee, our stand constantly. I just it
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was a fabulous couple of days. I really I can't
say enough positive things about it. The atmosphere was good,
were happy. Yeah, I mean, you only learn why you're listening.
And when you go to these field days and you
spend the time with the people that make it count
for farmers and you listen, Jesus, you learn a lot,
you hear a lot, and it helps us make better decisions.
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It was just a terrific, terrific couple of days.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Forty two thousand, five hundred was the official figure for
the three days.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Whoa, WHOA pretty good on the first day, I think
the Wednesday morning, you've got that right. The Wednesday morning
I attended the first Wednesday morning, it was pretty bleak,
pretty cold, pretty damp, pretty muddy. By Wednesday afternoon the
sun was out. That was scorching. Thursday was a scorcher.
People were pretty buoyant, as also thought they were. If
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what I heard was correct, around for circumspect about how
they're spending, how they're planning, how they're running their balance sheets.
I still note, which is very encouraging, a very good
approach to good fiscal management. So, in other words, take
advantage of the good times, but don't overextend yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Was that. The thing that seemed to stick out for
you speaking to Supplies Lourie was that they were happy
with the season, but fiscally responsible the space. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Absolutely. I don't know how many good years in a
row you need to have andy before people start to
forget if you're hoping the lessons of the past. But
I don't feel in that position yet. We've had some
good years in succession. But farmers are being, for the
most part, I think, very pragmatic, very sensible, very conscious
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of balance sheets, very con conscious of debt. It seems
that the banks are more open for business now than
there were two years ago. But debt is debt, and
you know, debt, as we all know, can often be
called in when you least expect it or when you
least want to pay it. So I think I think
the high degree of pragmatism very very encouraged. I think
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it's a healthy sign for our industry where.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I just need to look at the GDT results this
year to date, after what was at nine consecutive false
is it about four rises on the trot now and
everything's looking pretty healthy for the sector. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I mean, we never we never had our full year
a full season number. We never had it go below
I think about nine twenty eight, nine to thirty, So
we never we never fell as low as nine dollars
as some others did. We didn't. We didn't see it
as a long to them trend, and we've been proven right.
We're not always right, obviously, but we've have a priven
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right this year.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I think.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Hard to say at this point. I mean, a lot
of things happened in the world and he aren't there,
but you'd say right now, there's as much chance, there's
probably a better chance to have been a little bit
higher than nine fifty.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
For the year.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
There's more chance of that, and it is been lower
than nine fifty.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Regarding the situation overseas, Lourie, what does that do for
New Zealand as an exporting nation.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Well, it's a cost issue. Obviously, costs will go up.
The search yards are starting to flow through now. The
the reality is it will take longer to get some
goods to some markets, which slows down the payment schedule
or regime if you like. So it pushes up working
capital for processes. Not an issue for us. We've always
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run such a conservative bellot sheet. We've always planned for
this sort of stuff. We plan for these contingencies and
we won't bat an eyelid. But for the industry, it
slows down the process of goods getting the market, slows down,
the return of capital to Dizena or funds to working
capitals in the zeal And cause a lot more logistical headaches.
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But touch Woods, so far as you would expect, is
what we're paid to do. We're coping.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So you think we'll be able to absorb these costs
that we're going to see as a result.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well, the answer with anty is your choice. We will
between ourselves, the supply base and the customers, all those
costs shared in proportioned somewhere. There are no choices, so
we have to cope with it, and we do.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Just finally, Luriy, we know you're a great North Harbor fan.
The Blue is doing the business over the Saders at
the week here, But you've got the local derby against
my Wanna Pacifica. That'll be a good game.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, it will be. I mean, gee, I saw the
Crusaders game last week. I think I've got this right. Andy.
We've only beat the Crusaders twice down in the last
eleven games.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, something ridiculous at Eden Park.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Litt Alone in christ Church. So it was a significant win. Yeah,
I mean it should beat Myna Pacifica on current form
and I think I don't know what the bookies are saying,
but there'd be a significant level of disappointment in the
Blues camp if they don't. But they got tipped up
by them last year and any team coached by Tana
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I wouldn't underestimate. So looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Larry Margray, Open Country cheer. Thanks for your time when
the master is always enjoyed the afternoon pleasure and take
care Larry Margrain of Open Country. He is cheered. Great
to catch up with the team like we do. You're
listening to the muster up next and studio Graham Butcher.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
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Speaker 1 (20:30):
Graham Butcher Farm consultant joins us once again in studio.
How are you. I'm very well, indeed got your jersey
on today.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I have had to dig it out at the bottom
of the coboard.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Leasing. Talking about leasing today quite a bit to entail.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Oh, leasing's always a topic that comes up. I get
frequent calls from people saying what's a lease worth? And
basically you say, how long have you got to discuss that?
So I just thought i'd talk briefly about leasing, about
how you should go about doing things. So what I
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did is took the beef and lamb Class six and seven,
as U said, as a base for what production levels
are like and all that sort of thing in gross
incomes and what have you. Because it's been around for
quite a while, that leasing probably should be around twenty
to twenty five percent of your gross farm income, right,
So that's a base that's been there for a number
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of years, and as we know, gross incomes are gone
up quite a bit. So got hold of the Class
six and Class seven latest report, and they have lambs
still at one eighty one fifty six, stores at one
hundred and twenty six, use at one hundred and five,
well at two thirty or two dollars thirty three, quite
a bit below where they actually are at the moment,
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but that's not unusual for the beef and Lab seven.
They take a weee while to catch up with what's
actually happening, because they're not there every day doing stuff.
So I looked at it and I said, they're probably
twenty percent below actually out right now. So we're a
Class six farm and that's the bigger Hill country farm.
Your stock unit income, according to Beef and Lambs, one
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hundred and sixty four a stock unit. This is your
gross farm income, but really it's probably closer to one
hundred and ninety six. So take that, take that as
a figure and apply your twenty to twenty five percent
of your gross farm income. So we actually need to
think about what stock units are running on the farm
to do that. So at ten to the heck Dere,
At to twenty percent mark, it's three ninety two the
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hec Dere. Well, if you're thinking acres, that's one hundred
and fifty eight an acre. If you go to twenty five,
it's four ninety and that's one hundred and ninety eight
and acre.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
How many people still work in acres.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Well, well I can count one. I still think better
in acres.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Than just a default mechanism almost although Greg Erickson now
correspondent in Canada from my movement, they work in bushels
over there, for measurement. Well, there you go anyway.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
So well, if you take that Class six farm and
go up to the eleven stock units, we range from
four thirty eight to five thirty nine a hec there.
If we go to twelve stock units, it was probably
a bit unusual for a Class six it's four sixty
eight to five eighty eight. So on that particular Class
six farm we have depending on what stock units are
caring and depending on whether you use twenty to twenty
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five percent, could be anywhere between one hundred and fifty
eight and two thirty eight and acre. If we go
to a Class seven farm, the gross farm incumber stock
units one hundred and eighty eight eighty I reckon it's
closer to two twenty six for that class seven farms.
And if we go through that whole drama again, going
from ten to twelve stock units in twenty to twenty
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five percent, it could be anywhere between one hundred or
four fifty two a hect there and six hundred and
seventy eight a hectare. So when we look at the
class six and seven farms, and sometimes they overlap, but
it's a bit hard to decide which is which The
range we get for our twenty to twenty five percent
gross income could be anywhere between three ninety two a
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hectare and six seven eight a heck debt, right, and
that depends entirely on the stocking rate. If you think
an acre is better, it's one hundred and sixty to
two seventy five an acre. So if people bring me
up that's probably going to be my standard response is
what's the least worth I'll say anywhere between one hundred
and sixty and two seventy five an acre. So I
suppose the most important thing about tendering for release is
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not to think about what other people are bidding. You're
not trying to outbid a neighbor who's got perhaps has
to fill up a labor unit from point eight to
one and all that sort of stuff. We need to
sit down and do a very serious budget on what
you can do. You've got to work out what stock
you can carry, what it's going to cost you to
run it, what your necessary profit is. And but that's
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left over as the lease, and it'll probably forward between
our somewhere between one's sixty and two seventy five and acre.
But you can't tender for a lease on the basis
that you need to outbid someone else to get it.
Very dangerous ground to.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Start on Dutch oction.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Well, well, it is because you take a case of
a neighboring farmer, it's on the boundary the lease.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
He might have.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Two stock units on the farm at work for one
point eight he can run that farm a lot more
efficiently than you can if you're fifty k's away or
have to shift or have to align an income from
that farm for drawings. So don't outbid, be very serious
about how you do your budget, and a few other
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things are taken into account too. If you're leasing, it's
a bit of a risk when you have to buy
stock and sell stock at the end of a lease.
If you buy them, If you have to go in
and buy stock now to do a lease, what's the
price going to be when you need to sell or
can't do anything else with them but sell at the
end of say five years. You could take a bit
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of a hiding. In other cases, if you were if
you least five years ago I bought stock and selling
them now right, probably have money in the bank. So
that's always a fact you to consider. So the key
point is do your own budget. Make sure you allow
for a profit, because the only point about having a
lease is having more cash at the end of the
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days than when the lease started. So be very critical.
See if you can get stockholding capacities of farm. Look
at the farm. What are the sal tests like, what
are the pastures like? What can I reasonably do on
this farm and make a profit. Don't think about what
someone else can do on the farm because it won't
work and.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The opportunity may arise least to buy down the line.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Well, yeah, that can be case. Often lisas have right
a first option to purchase at the end. Yeah, on
two minds about that. From the less horse point of view,
it's probably a bit of a hindrance having something like
that in there, But from the less e's point of view,
it's probably quite good.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well, these thinking benefit both parties as well.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Well, it's got to be a win win, that's what. Well,
that's my other comment about leasing. It's got to be
a win win. The less has got to make is
got to achieve his objectives and so does the less see.
So yeah, it's quite interesting to look at the option
of leasing and to purchase. Got some FIGUREC here somewhere.
If we if we say lands worth fifteen hundred a
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hectare about thirteen fifty a stock unit, all about eleven
fifty or thirteen sixty three are stock unit. There's a
hectory of land to lease that let's say it's five
to fifty year stock unit. There's your annual cost of
the of cost of your ability to farm that land.
If we go and buy it, and we have sixty
percent equity, so we've got nine thousand we can put in,
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and we borrow six thousand to buy it, five and
a half percent on the six thousand you buys three
hundred and thirty, and there's an opportunity cost of that
cash you're putting into it. You're sixty percent, you're nine
thousand a hect there, and it's probably around about three percent,
which is two twenty a hectare, which is five fifty
a hectare, which is exactly the same as the annual
running cost of leasing. So if we only got forty
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percent equity in the cost of owning that land and
the ability to farmers six seventy five a hectare, which
is more than the cost of leasing. So leasing is
a pretty serious option. For a farm that wants to
expand that hasn't got capital. It's also a very good
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vehicle for young people we haven't got haven't got a
lot of capital, but want to get into farming. But
it all comes down to doing your budgets.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Properly, due diligence. Absolutely can only gram always relevant. Good times,
really good, Graham Butcher, Farm Consultant. You're listening to the
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Haku joins us. Next, Colder's ice. Probably a little bit
of a frost down the way Mere Valley this morning,
I'd say, snow good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, I've known there Andy, no touch wood. We had
a sort of a heavy or sort of what we
do this morning, but no frost. So we're actually just
we've been through the all of you lamb yesterday and
to their final cold down because they're toxo and campo
vaccine all the rives this afternoon. So nothing like leaving
until the last minute to sort them out. So now
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we're actually in the wall shed just not too hot afternoon,
and we're actually smacking off a few bellies. Just tidy
them up for the works.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
He'll be pretty handy on the handpiece on imagine, I.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Know enough just to be dangerous.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Well, the problem with a hand piece is like riding
your bikes, you never forget.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
That's right, yep, and you can. Yeah, it's quite good
to teach the stuff. You can show them a few
tricks as you go. So yeah, but yeah, the longer
we talk, the less I have to do andy, So
this is great.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, there you go, just a little bit for the
economy out there, that wave mere valley down conditions though
it has gotten nippier and noticeably, So how are you
holding up?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
We're still we had nineteen meals of rain there on Sunday,
which was really good. We're what we're calling a green
dry still, so we definitely want more moisture yet, but
we don't want these the days a shortening up, and
we haven't had a couple of week tigles across so far,
so we don't want those just to kick them just
yet because we need a few bit of growth to lead.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Us in the winter because not far away from you,
they're actually in need of a good rain.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yes, that's right, yep, No riversdoal down there where to
drive over there on the weekend and it's yeah, they're
definitely dry. And we noticed that the further out the
Riversdale side of the farm we get, the dryer gets.
So we've actually opened up the silo stack and we're
feeding out to use just to try and create a
bit of a buffer with lambs because we're having to
bounce them around every day at the moment, just to
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try and give them a bit of fresh scenery and
the greenness pick we can.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
So it's noticeably drier than what you'd normally have this
time of year.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
It's a funny one because if you'd asked me, we've
probably had enough moisture for the season, but we just
seemed to have those never ending winds there and it
just sucked the small dry and it's never had that
real chance to give us a real flash of feed
to come away. So yeah, we're actually brought in managed
to buy twenty hectors of standing grass and brought in
some bailage and I've managed a whole crop one paddic
(31:24):
of her barley I was going to take through the harvest,
and I'm sitting on the fence at the moment trying
to do a bit of a budget and decide whether
we're going to do another one new too.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And of course you've got some lambs running around on
kale tops.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yes, yep, that's right, so there. Actually it's the next job.
As soon as we've finished spelling these coal u lambs,
we're going to bring them in today and braddle them
off and weigh them off the kale. They're looking fantastic,
so I've been on there a month now, so I'm
suspecting that most of those will go for chuck seven
hundred up there at twenty of the hectare, and they're
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looking really good. You can only just see the last
week that they've actually got lambs on the kale. Usually
they'll go and then smack out a bit of a
corner of the paddock or something, but this year they
seem to have just yeah, timed it right and they've
spread through nice and they just see them starting to
strip off the odd pature leaves in the in the
middle of a paddock on a ridge now.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
So how pecky are you when it comes to you
lamb selection.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Oh very yeah. That that's your key time, that's your
genetics going forward, what you want to do. The studs,
of course, so we've got a lot more information behind them.
So we've got all their data loaded on the on
the laptop and we go up the race and I
visibly look over every single one up the race and
wind up their figures and you decide what we keep there.
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Technology is fantastic. You can go through with your computer
at night and sit down and mark out anything you
don't like in the figures, or just have it come
up with an alert or the bottom bottom twenty percent
of your flock, anything like that. So that is really
good having that ability with the studs, and then the
commercials we rattle them through. We're already done a color
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earlier on to sort of have them tied it up
to just about the numbers we need anyway, and then
we just go through the race again and have the
staff of the chalk in the hand at the back.
If there's anything with DAGs or anything we don't like,
they'd put a we read on it. And then I
have that split second on the drafting gate to decide
whether you like them or not coming up if you
had a million miles in air.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So pre today's of technology, you reckon. It's a game
change of what you present them with these days.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Oh absolutely, But at the end of the day, the
tag's fantastic, but it doesn't store any information, So it
still comes down to your ability to be able to
use that information and store it. And I'm really lucky.
Kevin's fantastic on the computer and I just tell her
what it is that I want to have done and
she somehow manages to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So how many Lambs did you have left compete to normal?
Were you pretty much on par?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
We're pretty much on par to be fair. Even though
the season i'd say has been a good couple of weeks,
if not a month, and behind where we normally are,
Lambs have still done really well. If anything, we've had
to chuck a wee bit more cobalt hit than this year,
I think, just they had that yeah, you see if
you're coming on with their scally years and that sort
of thing. So they've had two jebs that be twelve
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now just to sort of keep them going, and they've
got that nice color and they are doing really well.
It'd be great, like fantastic season price wise. Just need
to try and yeah, get those weights up as much
as we can with yeah factoring and how far through
the season we're getting now and only about a month
away from looking to put the first of the.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Ramseel Now the crop side of things there, have you
got that harvested yet or was it to be announced?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
No, we're all spring so and BALI, so we're still
probably nearly a month away for that. But yeah, it
would certainly be keen to get some of that off
if we can and get some back into young grass
going forward to trying to ease that winter pressure or
weave so well.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You know, you sound like everything's pretty much at the speed.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
There's always jobs to do on the list standy, I've
been running behind the technology where we're saying it's great
on one. On the other hand, of my records for
the ram lambs, getting them cold down was a bit
later this year. Getting through so has put the pressure on.
So I should really be into selling rams this week,
but we're sort of going to put it off and
be into next week. Get the Wonica show out of
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the way and yeah, rip into it.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Then as far as this price of fuel, with what's
happening in the Middle East, how are you viewing this
as obviously you're gonna have a lot of diesel on
the farm, that's a given when you're a cocky. Are
you having to change your approach at all?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
It's more just a nervous wait and see at the moment,
obviously we've gone through, We've filled up all the tanks
that we can. If there's some magic way that you
could sort of try and fix the price and just
sort of locking a few of those costs that we
know are going to be big ones going forward, would
be fantastic. But I haven't got the magic bullet for
getting around that one this yet.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Any you talk about the one that can show you're
heading up.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Yeah, I'll try and get up there for a day
anyway and just have a bit of a look around.
And we're not going to have a stand or anything there,
Just try and get around and catch up with a
few clients. And I think much most of people and
see eton tend to go up to that one of
for showing how it is just a nice one, especially
after the southern field goes down here, Momo, we're as
seen to be run around like a headless truck trying
to do jobs. To just go there and relax and
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watch other people run around a lot better.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, it's a bit more relaxed after being on the
other side of the corner space.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
It is all right, but you find yourself going around
and sort of looking for week things that we could
do better with here one too, So yeah, you're always
going to learn something to any Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Coincidentally, the Muster's broadcasting live from Wanka on the Friday
snow Hey, thanks for your time once again. I don't
want to know your time on the hand piece to
show the young ones how it's done, so I'll let
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Speaker 4 (36:46):
I got a GOALKI Thenny.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Andrew Welsh of twin Fan Genetics a home of Tiff
from Richard White. Is that next in our Young Farmer's
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(37:10):
to know what lovers the power ballad from back in
the day as we chat with our young farmers every Tuesday.
Richard White of Bay Tany Young Farmers joins us this afternoon. Richard,
good afternoon, hell says.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Not made yourself Andy?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Pretty good? That song there, I asked you before if
you do of it? Do you know of it now?
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (37:29):
I do now that I've heard it.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yep. How's everything on the farm out there? You're based
out of chatting, aren't you? Yeah? We are, yeh, yeh
getting how's the season been?
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Oh yeah, it's been being up and down really, there's
been a you know, we're looking pretty dry there around
Christmas time, but that's yeah. We've got the right rain
at the right time and everything's looking pretty good.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
To be fair well. So mother nature's providing for you
in autumn.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
It is yep. Yep. Could just deal with a bit
more son and a bit more wonder to get the
crops dry and what sort of stuff they'd be quite handy.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Are you having to match crop?
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Oh yeah, we've had to dry weab it. Yeah, it
hadn't been too too bad. We're just sort of blending
a webit of stuff. It's sort of been fifteen percent,
which sort of blending it with twelve percent stuff to
try and even how to weave it too.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Right, Hey young farmers at wait Tana, you're involved here.
It's been a pretty busy couple of months. We had
the regionals there. Well that's probably about a month ago now,
which is in the past, but that was a pretty
cool occasion.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Yep. No, the club's been very busy lately.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Last month was a very busy month for us yep,
with regionals and then also helping with doing a lot
of fundraising for the field Days and all that sort
of stuff like helping set up and pack down Sony
Creek and doing stuff with the Field Day's committee, and
also cable pulling at the end of the day as
well on the Friday, which was also a pretty big job.
(38:46):
But yeah, we've got plenty of people there and got
in and got it done.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So the field Days at south Side, did you men
as yet have a bit of a look around? Yep.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Yeah, I went down on the Friday and had a
look round, and yeah, spend a wea bit of money
and bought a couple of things here and there that
we're now and sort things that looked good. And yeah,
everything was looking real good.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Actually, Yeah, any major purchases for the farm were just
we for a jacket and it was about it.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Ah.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
Oh, we brought a couple of chainsaws and priced up
a spreader and a couple other bits and bobs here
and there, and just yeah, it had a good look around.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Really well, it sounds like the gorses out of the
pockets and you.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
Were buying Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, someone else has been going on with the club.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Oh, it's been the way it happened. Now it's sort
of slowed down, weave it with everyone being busy with
at this time of the year. But we're sort of
planning a Stewart Island trip at the moment, going to
go over to Stuart Island for three days and do
a bit of fishing, so that'll be cool. Other than that, yeah,
just trying to find a bit of fundraising to doing that.
And then yeah, we just had a pretty busy month
last month, so we're just going to take it easy
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this month and do a bit of planning and try
and get a weave of the fundraising under our belt.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Have you been down there before?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Yeah, the club went on a trip down there in
twenty twenty two and we had a bloody awesome time.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Actually, I quite believe that knowing you lost. Hey, that's
one thing about why Toney, you guys are always out
and about being proactive. It's almost twelve months since you
went to uz He you're going down to Stuart Island.
So yeah, if you play to you guys, you're doing stuff.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yeah, well, you know, you've got to keep people interested
and going out and doing things. You know, for the
amount of work that the people in the club put in,
you know, no, we've we've got to reward them and
you know, no better thing than going on trip together
and doing things, going out fishing and all.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
That sort of stuff. So yeah, so fundraising wise for
these trips, what do you do? You've had the field
days obviously, likes of wood splitting or anything. What have
you got up in the pipeline.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
We haven't got anything sort of lined up for this one.
We had a couple of fundraisers lined up that they
fell through that we haven't got anything lined up for
this one yet. We're just trying to find a way
bit of fundraising now to do for this Stuart Island trip.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
So yeah, well here's your opportunity. What kind of fundraising
are you after? Anything, right, anything required for fundraising's out
of young farmers there your team, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
Yep, we'll do Farwood and well we had a turn
up pulling thing lined up, but that fell through because
the seed has already dropped. But yeah, no, we'll do
anything that we can get a hands on.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Really, when do you guys hold your meetings?
Speaker 6 (41:17):
So we've got a meeting on next Monday on the
sixteenth at the Town and Country Club.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Nice, you guys get out in the bount for your
meetings as well, You're just not in the one place.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Yeah, no, we lot this shit around. You get a
good different crowd from everywhere so that people are from
different places around the place can come and join our meetings.
So you know, we've got a few members down sort
of Eden Dolls ways. It's bit harder for them to
drive allway to Gore of other sides, so we go
down to b Ton sometimes and Thomas Green as well. So, yeah, how.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Many members would you have turning out to meetings so
to day to suppose, because he's quite a few of you.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Yeah, no, we get pretty good turnouts anywhere between twenty
to thirty members depending on how busy how busy the
year is and all that sort of stuff and what
time of the year it is.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
As far as tail twisters for the next meeting, can
you give us a taste of what to expect.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Oh, there'll be just a lot of talk about this
trip coming up.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Really, no tail twists. Name in Shane someone he's coughed up.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Oh, I suppose you'll just have to come along to
the meeting and find out and listen to the who's
going to get the wooden spone? I suppose that is.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
A great answer. But the wooden spoon? What is the
wooden spoon?
Speaker 6 (42:27):
So the wooden spoons what you get if so you
get nominated and we'd go around the club and whoever's
had a bugger up for the month they get take
the wooden spoone home. It's just a piece of wood
with a spoon on it, a golden silver spoon on it.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
So that's what a wooden spoon generally is.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, just a bit of a
shame really that when you get it. I've had it
funny enough finds the South. It's pretty good laugh to
hear what people have been up to.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
So yeah, right, so social channels all be sway to
get in touch, Richard, I'd.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
Say Facebook, get on Facebook and look us up on Facebook.
We're on TikTok as well, and Instagram and all sort
of stuff, So you just an anything like that.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, TikTok, you little hipsters. Good on your Richard, Thanks
to the chat. All the best in the harvest of
this week that.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
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Speaker 1 (43:20):
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Speaker 7 (43:56):
Hey, well all right too, he go there and what
are you going again?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
It is time for stock selling it some thanks for
PGG right some. The Louisville sale occurred this morning, so
Sam Riley's on the line to talk these prices. Gida, Sam,
will we looking up for down today?
Speaker 7 (44:10):
Pretty similar to to last week, I'd say, mate, But
everything's very positive out there, so it's good to see
lamb prices today. There's good heavy lambs two forty eighty,
the medium's two hundred to two thirty five, and a
lot of primes at one ay one ninety five.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
Sean news.
Speaker 7 (44:27):
The best of those are two hundred to two seventy,
the medium is one seventy to one ninety and the
lottery in use at one thirty to one sixty, with
the tail end us at eighty to one hundred and
ten dollars. Handful of rams and today eighty tw one
hundred on the tops of those in sixty to seventy
on the mediums into the stare sheet probably just the
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medium yarding of store lambs and today, but of course
it is similar to last week. One seventy to one
eighty five on the tops of those one fifty one
sixty five on the mediums and one thirty to one
forty on the lotter, and stuff into the kettle, very
large arching of kettle. I think we had one pen
left in the in the sale over the stalk primes
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and store. So he's plenty plenty kettle in here mainly
made up of empty gairy heifers and still quarter fe
store kettle. Sir quotes on the prime kettle steers heapers
five hundred cag's plus they were four dollars eighty four
hundred and four to fifty kilow stuff four dollars. Forty
cows five four hundred and fifty kg plus three dollars
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three dollars twenty, and those lighter cows at three fifty
four fifty kilos at two dollars eighty dairy heifers four
hundred kg plus dairy heipers they're still holding up at
four dollars to four dollars twenty. The medium heapers at
three fifty to four hundred kg's probably slipped back a
yebit to three sixty three eighty, and the lighter end
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heapers at three hundred to three and fifty kilos they
were three dollars to three dollars thirty, So that light
of stuff probably slipped back all over there into the
store kettle. We move, and you said largely adding a
store kettle mainly made up of calves and if you're
adding a month of kettle here for cross tars at
four hundred and twenty kg's twenty one to twenty. Here
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for cross heafer is at three hundred and sixty kilos
seventeen fifty the Murray Gray cross heafers at three fifty
three kilos seventeen forty into the calves here for cross
bull calves one hundred and eighty five kg's they were
one thousand dollars. Saray across four calves at two hundred
and twelve kilos twelve hundred dollars, and freezing balls at
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one sixty to two twenty kilos they were nine hundred
thousand and fifty so a very good demand on those
better type of store of yelling kettle. And that wraps up.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
We'll mate.
Speaker 7 (46:44):
We do have a number of sales coming up this week,
clearing sales, that is. Just check the Facebook prey rights
and Facebook page or Saturday's paper for all the details.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
On Mars.
Speaker 7 (46:55):
We'll give you local rights and eight in the ring
if you need to know anything else.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
Drummer
Good afternoon. Welcome to the muster on Hakanui, brought to
you by Peter's Genetics. My name's Andy Mueller. Thanks to
your company. Hope everything's going well as we face a
reasonably warm afternoon down here in the South. We'll say
reasonably warm. It's still only about seventeen or eighteen degrees
by the sounds of it, but it's better than a
kick out the butt with a hot poker, right considering
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the way the weather's been quite a bit to get
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Speaker 1 (00:49):
This afternoon cloud with breezy easterlies and eighteen Wednesday cloudy.
You have come variable winds eleven and twenty one. Thursday
very similar cloudy. You have breezing. Your west is forming
eleven three. Friday Raybard breezies how westerly seven and seventeen
and Saturday afternoon showers of northwest is forming eleven and fifteen,
so temperatures clinton fourteen northern south on twelve point eight
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Riverton fourteen point seven to our thirteen point five, tonorow
A twelve point six, eleven point one at Woodland's thirteen
point three. Quite a busy week around the just no
matter what you're up to at the moment. We're speaking
to Harriet Remda shortly to start the show. Now she's
up at the Impact Summit which is happening in christ
(01:33):
Church and they're announcing the winner of the Zanda McDonald
Awards tonight. She's a previous winner, so he catch up
Harriet to see what the move's like up there and
what it means to be a winner of such a
prestigious award. Laurie Mark Graham's Chair of Open Country, We
catch up Graham Butcher Farm Consultant talking leasing. What you
need to know if you're looking at doing a lease
(01:55):
for the first time. Good time of the song Actually
Andrew Wilsher twin Farm Ddix, a home of tear from
We catch up with Snow to see how things are going,
and Richard White and way Tani Young Farmers has a
young Sam Riley a PGG Rising gives us an update
on the stock sal of at occurred a lawn for
this morning just to remind her as well. The Wonker
Show The Muster broadcasting from the Wonker amp Show on Friday.
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Sheer where New Zealand's going to be there Alan McCleary
and co. They're going to be at site number fourteen
to Wanaka show. So go and catch up with Alan
Chew the Fat. You might even give you a coffee cup.
Who knows he's a good bugger. Anyway, we'll carry on
with the show now we're starting off with Harriet Bremner.
You're listening to the Muster until two o'clock thanks to
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Speaker 3 (02:44):
Checko see I got able hungrede.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Harriet Bremner joins us next. Now. She's worn a number
of hats over the years. She's a farmer and author
as well as being an advocate rural health and safety.
She was a Xander McDonald Award winner in twenty twenty
three and we talked to her this afternoon while she's
up there at the Impact Summit where the name means
the new Xander McDonald recipients tonight. So Harriet, great to
(03:15):
chat once again.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Good ay, Andy, Yeah, it is thank you so much
for having me.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Firstly, being up in christ Church before the alumni from
previous sand McDonald's must be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Oh look, it's really special. I actually grew up going
to school and things in christ Church. It's lovely to
be back and it's really neat to see six fresh
new faces here at the summit, awaiting the exciting unveiling
of the news tonight and of course catching up with
you know, what we see as a family. And you know,
(03:50):
you're always reminded when you come to these things how
important it is to actually stop, take some time off
farm and come and connect with all these wonderful people
in here about what everybody's been up to. It's one
of those pinch yourself moments that you know, it actually
happened to you and I still still feel that way.
And just to have the privilege of being in the
same room of you know, everybody is just such a great,
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forward thinking, innovative person and you've there's so much to learn.
You know, you've got Shane mcmanaway leading the ship, and
people like himself to be able to tap him on
the shoulder and ask questions and you know, and get
a helping hand and a listening air is just you know,
something that money couldn't pay for, so it's a very
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special andy, Harriet.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
What was a catalyst for you entering the awards?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Oh, look, it was something that I'd followed for a
while and it was really you know, it was an
award that really spoke to me. It was actually my
mother in law who gave me the push and said,
you need to do this. My husband's brother was a
finalist early on in the piece when the award first started,
and I had heard how it was just such a
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special for people to be part of. And you know,
it's so different to other awards. It's so much more
than receiving a trophy and having a nice photo and
a trophy on your sideboard. It is about becoming part
of this family that you're a part of forever, and
the connections that you make and the mentorship that you receive,
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and it just encompasses so many things. I'd be here
all day if I could tell you about them all.
But yeah, it's definitely something that I would say to
people if they're thinking about it, if they're interested in it,
just have a go, because becoming part of the Alumni
is a life changing thing that will change the world
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and how you move forward in it forever.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, I suppose, and to narrow it all down, the
biggest takeaway from being involved with it was just the
opportunities that arose.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Ah, absolutely, and I would say the connections and relationships
with people. You know, it puts you in a position
where you can pick up the phone and wring somebody
across the ditch in Australia or anyone here in New Zealand.
They will open their doors to you, sit you down,
have a good chat, help you nut out any issues
or problems or challenges that you're facing, and also celebrate
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the ones with you as well. So you know a
lot of us are on the lookout for great mentors
and people that we can be under their wing with
and the award just offers all of that, you know,
a big buffet of it that I suppose.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Now this is all part of the Impact Summit where
the awards are happening tonight. What was the theme there
is such this year?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, it's an extremely special theme. We're in christ Church
and d fifteen years on from the earthquakes, which speaks
to me as I was here for those from solid foundations.
We rise as our theme this year and look we
had an amazing afternoon yesterday with the alumni with Elizabeth McNaughton,
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who actually four fronted and ran the relief group for
the christ Church earthquake after it happened. So she took
us through you know, disasters, how we can learn to
lead through them, how we can get through them, you know,
preparing ourselves for us an other disaster arose. Are we
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prepared for that? Do we know how to get ourselves
and our people through that? And so many amazing nuggets
of gold there and rich Green is currently talking to
us at the moment how we set up our businesses
to win. So yeah, it's going to be a jam
packed couple of days. So many wonderful people that are
presenting to us, and tonight we get to find out
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who this is one of us. So very exciting.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Fifteen years on from the earthquakes. You say you were
in christ Church when they occurred. What was your what's
your biggest memory about the event?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Oh goodness, it was actually my very first day teaching
in a classroom. I had five year old students. We obviously,
like everybody else, didn't know what really was going on,
but we had children that were not picked up from
school till quite late in that evening, and a child
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came up to me and said, excuse me, miss, My
mom and dad work in town. Do you think they're okay?
And I was, you know, twenty one years old, and
had this little face looking at me. We had only
heard what we had heard. We knew it wasn't good.
And I stood there and thought, my goodness, no one
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has prepared me for answering this question. You know, it
was not how I first saw my first day and
classroom teaching going. Yeah, and then from there after graduating
with my primary teaching the Plima, my first job into yoga.
Asked if I could handle pressure, and I could quite
confidently tell them that I survived through that year training
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to be a teacher amongst all the earthquakes, and you know,
children latching onto door frames every time there was a tremis.
So I felt that, yeah, I had learned some tools
by that stage to deal with pressure.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well, that must have been pretty confronting.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, look it was. And you know yesterday sitting in
that room sharing stories about the earthquake, and it's amazing
how your body and your mind you can take you
right back to how you felt in those moments. We
were living on anxiety and fear and no sleep for
a long time here in christ Church. And yeah, it's
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really quite hard to believe that it was fifteen years ago.
But it's great to come back to the city and
see what the city is. A community's done to try
and rebuild, you know, and that's what we're looking at
at summit here. How we rebuild, how we move forward,
and you know, how you surround yourself with the right
people in life that when you come to a tricky
situation and disaster, whatever that may look like for you,
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if you've got those right people around you, then you know,
it makes it that bit easier to put one foot
in front of the other and move forward.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Now, Harriet, you're based at black Mount. You were telling
me before we had a chat that you've had four
scenes in one day weather wise, and nothing's been normal lately.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Look, I think it started in spring andy on my
Lemming beat worth a eight hundred old miles of rain
in about six or seven weeks. I think that was
fairly depressing. And then we've actually had a great, a
great season summer wise. It hasn't been great boating weather,
but we haven't had time for that anyway. And you
know last week we had snow on the mountains in
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the morning, frozen windscreen, and then it was twenty eight
degrees in the afternoon. So it's take a jacket and
a pair of shorts to work at the moment, I think,
and it's feeling awfully all to me already. So I'm
not sure what you think, but we're not sure what
is in store for us this winter. Maybe another mild one,
maybe a cold one. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Harriet Bremner, Thanks very much for your time on the
must of this afternoon. It sounds like a fantastic occasion
up there of networking and just connecting with people in
the farming industry. It'll be great to see who the
winners are for the Xander McDonald Award this evening. Thanks
for your time.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Thanks Andy, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Harriet Bremner, farmer, author and advocate feral health and safety,
amongst other things. As well regarding the Xander McDonald Award,
which is being announced tonight. Lorry Margrain joins us next
from Open Country. Welcome back to the muster, Lorry Margrain,
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his chair of Open Country. We catch up with a
team on a regular basis. Murray, good afternoon. It is
autumn down here in the deep South up where you
were based up north. How's the season been pretty good? Andy?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Thank you welcome and nice to hear from you. No,
been a good year, I mean across the country south
of Otaga is no exception. There are sort of geographic
poppets which are different. But the milk flow has been strong.
It's been consistent, and it's hanging on very well into autumn,
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early autumn, in the beginning or winter in a few months.
I guess people are getting many cuts. Feed stops are high. Say,
milk supply is still good, and the price is not
disappointing people.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, the price will talk about that surely. But as
far as the milk supply compared to say this time
twelve months ago, Laurie, where would you say, it's that?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Oh, rup a few percent? I mean, I always I'm
always reluctant any to compare milk flows to prior years,
because you can have you have periods of a prior
year which are particularly bad or disappointing, and then you
compare a reasonable average year to that and it looks
like a flow's really up. I would say milk flows
are where you will expect within reason with the hard
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numbers we've got, the production per animal we've got, and
the grass conditions we've been getting, so we're not unhappy.
I think farmers really good at net Net as a
better than average year.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
We're saying good conditions for growing grass predominantly and a
lot of the province at the moment. Laurie, what's it
been like at North?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, pretty good? Any pretty good white cat o by
have plenty king country, et cetera. We don't go to
North and obviously Taranaki Mino or two you're pretty good.
I mean again, there are there are differences. I mean,
one of the weird things we get with these weather
patterns these days, you could get pretty healthy or even
substantial rains in one area and then ten k down
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the road you're getting richer nothing. But consistently it's been good.
I mean everybody. I think when you talk to farmers,
how are things? The answer usually begins with the word too.
It's too warm, it's too wet, it's too dry, it's
too windy, it's always too something. But net when you're
lean across the farm fence, I think the farmers are
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pretty happy and the grass grows where we've kind of
hope they'll be at the summer year.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
That's a farming prerogatives though. Lorry, though, is either one
of the other. It can't be the middle bowl of
porridg Oh hell.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
No no, because when you when you're when you're running businesses,
these farmers do with so many ponderables that you can't control.
You can never have perfection, you can never have things
exactly how you want to have them. Just doesn't work
that way. That's why our guys, our farmers, are so
good at what they do, because they know it, they
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understand it, and they deal with it.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, the Southern Field Days was a few weeks ago now, Laurie.
But from an open country viewpoint, how was it?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Oh fantastic. I mean the attendance. I don't know what
the official numbers were, andy to be Frank, I was
there for two days, never left the stand, well left
the stand once a day out of the bathroom, but
never left the stand, So it didn't get a chance
to do any wandering. But people were pouring in and
out of our marquee, our stand constantly. I just it
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was a fabulous couple of days. I really I can't
say enough positive things about it. The atmosphere was good,
were happy. Yeah, I mean, you only learn why you're listening.
And when you go to these field days and you
spend the time with the people that make it count
for farmers and you listen, Jesus, you learn a lot,
you hear a lot, and it helps us make better decisions.
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It was just a terrific, terrific couple of days.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Forty two thousand, five hundred was the official figure for
the three days.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Whoa, WHOA pretty good on the first day, I think
the Wednesday morning, you've got that right. The Wednesday morning
I attended the first Wednesday morning, it was pretty bleak,
pretty cold, pretty damp, pretty muddy. By Wednesday afternoon the
sun was out. That was scorching. Thursday was a scorcher.
People were pretty buoyant, as also thought they were. If
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what I heard was correct, around for circumspect about how
they're spending, how they're planning, how they're running their balance sheets.
I still note, which is very encouraging, a very good
approach to good fiscal management. So, in other words, take
advantage of the good times, but don't overextend yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Was that. The thing that seemed to stick out for
you speaking to Supplies Lourie was that they were happy
with the season, but fiscally responsible the space. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Absolutely. I don't know how many good years in a
row you need to have andy before people start to
forget if you're hoping the lessons of the past. But
I don't feel in that position yet. We've had some
good years in succession. But farmers are being, for the
most part, I think, very pragmatic, very sensible, very conscious
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of balance sheets, very con conscious of debt. It seems
that the banks are more open for business now than
there were two years ago. But debt is debt, and
you know, debt, as we all know, can often be
called in when you least expect it or when you
least want to pay it. So I think I think
the high degree of pragmatism very very encouraged. I think
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it's a healthy sign for our industry where.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I just need to look at the GDT results this
year to date, after what was at nine consecutive false
is it about four rises on the trot now and
everything's looking pretty healthy for the sector. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I mean, we never we never had our full year
a full season number. We never had it go below
I think about nine twenty eight, nine to thirty, So
we never we never fell as low as nine dollars
as some others did. We didn't. We didn't see it
as a long to them trend, and we've been proven right.
We're not always right, obviously, but we've have a priven
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right this year.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I think.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Hard to say at this point. I mean, a lot
of things happened in the world and he aren't there,
but you'd say right now, there's as much chance, there's
probably a better chance to have been a little bit
higher than nine fifty.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
For the year.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
There's more chance of that, and it is been lower
than nine fifty.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Regarding the situation overseas, Lourie, what does that do for
New Zealand as an exporting nation.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Well, it's a cost issue. Obviously, costs will go up.
The search yards are starting to flow through now. The
the reality is it will take longer to get some
goods to some markets, which slows down the payment schedule
or regime if you like. So it pushes up working
capital for processes. Not an issue for us. We've always
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run such a conservative bellot sheet. We've always planned for
this sort of stuff. We plan for these contingencies and
we won't bat an eyelid. But for the industry, it
slows down the process of goods getting the market, slows down,
the return of capital to Dizena or funds to working
capitals in the zeal And cause a lot more logistical headaches.
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But touch Woods, so far as you would expect, is
what we're paid to do. We're coping.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So you think we'll be able to absorb these costs
that we're going to see as a result.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well, the answer with anty is your choice. We will
between ourselves, the supply base and the customers, all those
costs shared in proportioned somewhere. There are no choices, so
we have to cope with it, and we do.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Just finally, Luriy, we know you're a great North Harbor fan.
The Blue is doing the business over the Saders at
the week here, But you've got the local derby against
my Wanna Pacifica. That'll be a good game.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, it will be. I mean, gee, I saw the
Crusaders game last week. I think I've got this right. Andy.
We've only beat the Crusaders twice down in the last
eleven games.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, something ridiculous at Eden Park.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Litt Alone in christ Church. So it was a significant win. Yeah,
I mean it should beat Myna Pacifica on current form
and I think I don't know what the bookies are saying,
but there'd be a significant level of disappointment in the
Blues camp if they don't. But they got tipped up
by them last year and any team coached by Tana
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I wouldn't underestimate. So looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Larry Margray, Open Country cheer. Thanks for your time when
the master is always enjoyed the afternoon pleasure and take
care Larry Margrain of Open Country. He is cheered. Great
to catch up with the team like we do. You're
listening to the muster up next and studio Graham Butcher.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
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Speaker 1 (20:30):
Graham Butcher Farm consultant joins us once again in studio.
How are you. I'm very well, indeed got your jersey
on today.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I have had to dig it out at the bottom
of the coboard.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Leasing. Talking about leasing today quite a bit to entail.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Oh, leasing's always a topic that comes up. I get
frequent calls from people saying what's a lease worth? And
basically you say, how long have you got to discuss that?
So I just thought i'd talk briefly about leasing, about
how you should go about doing things. So what I
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did is took the beef and lamb Class six and seven,
as U said, as a base for what production levels
are like and all that sort of thing in gross
incomes and what have you. Because it's been around for
quite a while, that leasing probably should be around twenty
to twenty five percent of your gross farm income, right,
So that's a base that's been there for a number
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of years, and as we know, gross incomes are gone
up quite a bit. So got hold of the Class
six and Class seven latest report, and they have lambs
still at one eighty one fifty six, stores at one
hundred and twenty six, use at one hundred and five,
well at two thirty or two dollars thirty three, quite
a bit below where they actually are at the moment,
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but that's not unusual for the beef and Lab seven.
They take a weee while to catch up with what's
actually happening, because they're not there every day doing stuff.
So I looked at it and I said, they're probably
twenty percent below actually out right now. So we're a
Class six farm and that's the bigger Hill country farm.
Your stock unit income, according to Beef and Lambs, one
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hundred and sixty four a stock unit. This is your
gross farm income, but really it's probably closer to one
hundred and ninety six. So take that, take that as
a figure and apply your twenty to twenty five percent
of your gross farm income. So we actually need to
think about what stock units are running on the farm
to do that. So at ten to the heck Dere,
At to twenty percent mark, it's three ninety two the
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hec Dere. Well, if you're thinking acres, that's one hundred
and fifty eight an acre. If you go to twenty five,
it's four ninety and that's one hundred and ninety eight
and acre.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
How many people still work in acres.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Well, well I can count one. I still think better
in acres.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Than just a default mechanism almost although Greg Erickson now
correspondent in Canada from my movement, they work in bushels
over there, for measurement. Well, there you go anyway.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
So well, if you take that Class six farm and
go up to the eleven stock units, we range from
four thirty eight to five thirty nine a hec there.
If we go to twelve stock units, it was probably
a bit unusual for a Class six it's four sixty
eight to five eighty eight. So on that particular Class
six farm we have depending on what stock units are
caring and depending on whether you use twenty to twenty
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five percent, could be anywhere between one hundred and fifty
eight and two thirty eight and acre. If we go
to a Class seven farm, the gross farm incumber stock
units one hundred and eighty eight eighty I reckon it's
closer to two twenty six for that class seven farms.
And if we go through that whole drama again, going
from ten to twelve stock units in twenty to twenty
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five percent, it could be anywhere between one hundred or
four fifty two a hect there and six hundred and
seventy eight a hectare. So when we look at the
class six and seven farms, and sometimes they overlap, but
it's a bit hard to decide which is which The
range we get for our twenty to twenty five percent
gross income could be anywhere between three ninety two a
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hectare and six seven eight a heck debt, right, and
that depends entirely on the stocking rate. If you think
an acre is better, it's one hundred and sixty to
two seventy five an acre. So if people bring me
up that's probably going to be my standard response is
what's the least worth I'll say anywhere between one hundred
and sixty and two seventy five an acre. So I
suppose the most important thing about tendering for release is
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not to think about what other people are bidding. You're
not trying to outbid a neighbor who's got perhaps has
to fill up a labor unit from point eight to
one and all that sort of stuff. We need to
sit down and do a very serious budget on what
you can do. You've got to work out what stock
you can carry, what it's going to cost you to
run it, what your necessary profit is. And but that's
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left over as the lease, and it'll probably forward between
our somewhere between one's sixty and two seventy five and acre.
But you can't tender for a lease on the basis
that you need to outbid someone else to get it.
Very dangerous ground to.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Start on Dutch oction.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Well, well, it is because you take a case of
a neighboring farmer, it's on the boundary the lease.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
He might have.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Two stock units on the farm at work for one
point eight he can run that farm a lot more
efficiently than you can if you're fifty k's away or
have to shift or have to align an income from
that farm for drawings. So don't outbid, be very serious
about how you do your budget, and a few other
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things are taken into account too. If you're leasing, it's
a bit of a risk when you have to buy
stock and sell stock at the end of a lease.
If you buy them, If you have to go in
and buy stock now to do a lease, what's the
price going to be when you need to sell or
can't do anything else with them but sell at the
end of say five years. You could take a bit
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of a hiding. In other cases, if you were if
you least five years ago I bought stock and selling
them now right, probably have money in the bank. So
that's always a fact you to consider. So the key
point is do your own budget. Make sure you allow
for a profit, because the only point about having a
lease is having more cash at the end of the
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days than when the lease started. So be very critical.
See if you can get stockholding capacities of farm. Look
at the farm. What are the sal tests like, what
are the pastures like? What can I reasonably do on
this farm and make a profit. Don't think about what
someone else can do on the farm because it won't
work and.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The opportunity may arise least to buy down the line.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Well, yeah, that can be case. Often lisas have right
a first option to purchase at the end. Yeah, on
two minds about that. From the less horse point of view,
it's probably a bit of a hindrance having something like
that in there, But from the less e's point of view,
it's probably quite good.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well, these thinking benefit both parties as well.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Well, it's got to be a win win, that's what. Well,
that's my other comment about leasing. It's got to be
a win win. The less has got to make is
got to achieve his objectives and so does the less see.
So yeah, it's quite interesting to look at the option
of leasing and to purchase. Got some FIGUREC here somewhere.
If we if we say lands worth fifteen hundred a
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hectare about thirteen fifty a stock unit, all about eleven
fifty or thirteen sixty three are stock unit. There's a
hectory of land to lease that let's say it's five
to fifty year stock unit. There's your annual cost of
the of cost of your ability to farm that land.
If we go and buy it, and we have sixty
percent equity, so we've got nine thousand we can put in,
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and we borrow six thousand to buy it, five and
a half percent on the six thousand you buys three
hundred and thirty, and there's an opportunity cost of that
cash you're putting into it. You're sixty percent, you're nine
thousand a hect there, and it's probably around about three percent,
which is two twenty a hectare, which is five fifty
a hectare, which is exactly the same as the annual
running cost of leasing. So if we only got forty
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percent equity in the cost of owning that land and
the ability to farmers six seventy five a hectare, which
is more than the cost of leasing. So leasing is
a pretty serious option. For a farm that wants to
expand that hasn't got capital. It's also a very good
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vehicle for young people we haven't got haven't got a
lot of capital, but want to get into farming. But
it all comes down to doing your budgets.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Properly, due diligence. Absolutely can only gram always relevant. Good times,
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Haku joins us. Next, Colder's ice. Probably a little bit
of a frost down the way Mere Valley this morning,
I'd say, snow good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, I've known there Andy, no touch wood. We had
a sort of a heavy or sort of what we
do this morning, but no frost. So we're actually just
we've been through the all of you lamb yesterday and
to their final cold down because they're toxo and campo
vaccine all the rives this afternoon. So nothing like leaving
until the last minute to sort them out. So now
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we're actually in the wall shed just not too hot afternoon,
and we're actually smacking off a few bellies. Just tidy
them up for the works.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
He'll be pretty handy on the handpiece on imagine, I.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Know enough just to be dangerous.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Well, the problem with a hand piece is like riding
your bikes, you never forget.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
That's right, yep, and you can. Yeah, it's quite good
to teach the stuff. You can show them a few
tricks as you go. So yeah, but yeah, the longer
we talk, the less I have to do andy, So
this is great.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Well, there you go, just a little bit for the
economy out there, that wave mere valley down conditions though
it has gotten nippier and noticeably, So how are you
holding up?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
We're still we had nineteen meals of rain there on Sunday,
which was really good. We're what we're calling a green
dry still, so we definitely want more moisture yet, but
we don't want these the days a shortening up, and
we haven't had a couple of week tigles across so far,
so we don't want those just to kick them just
yet because we need a few bit of growth to lead.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Us in the winter because not far away from you,
they're actually in need of a good rain.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yes, that's right, yep, No riversdoal down there where to
drive over there on the weekend and it's yeah, they're
definitely dry. And we noticed that the further out the
Riversdale side of the farm we get, the dryer gets.
So we've actually opened up the silo stack and we're
feeding out to use just to try and create a
bit of a buffer with lambs because we're having to
bounce them around every day at the moment, just to
(30:52):
try and give them a bit of fresh scenery and
the greenness pick we can.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
So it's noticeably drier than what you'd normally have this
time of year.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
It's a funny one because if you'd asked me, we've
probably had enough moisture for the season, but we just
seemed to have those never ending winds there and it
just sucked the small dry and it's never had that
real chance to give us a real flash of feed
to come away. So yeah, we're actually brought in managed
to buy twenty hectors of standing grass and brought in
some bailage and I've managed a whole crop one paddic
(31:24):
of her barley I was going to take through the harvest,
and I'm sitting on the fence at the moment trying
to do a bit of a budget and decide whether
we're going to do another one new too.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And of course you've got some lambs running around on
kale tops.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yes, yep, that's right, so there. Actually it's the next job.
As soon as we've finished spelling these coal u lambs,
we're going to bring them in today and braddle them
off and weigh them off the kale. They're looking fantastic,
so I've been on there a month now, so I'm
suspecting that most of those will go for chuck seven
hundred up there at twenty of the hectare, and they're
(31:58):
looking really good. You can only just see the last
week that they've actually got lambs on the kale. Usually
they'll go and then smack out a bit of a
corner of the paddock or something, but this year they
seem to have just yeah, timed it right and they've
spread through nice and they just see them starting to
strip off the odd pature leaves in the in the
middle of a paddock on a ridge now.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
So how pecky are you when it comes to you
lamb selection.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Oh very yeah. That that's your key time, that's your
genetics going forward, what you want to do. The studs,
of course, so we've got a lot more information behind them.
So we've got all their data loaded on the on
the laptop and we go up the race and I
visibly look over every single one up the race and
wind up their figures and you decide what we keep there.
(32:40):
Technology is fantastic. You can go through with your computer
at night and sit down and mark out anything you
don't like in the figures, or just have it come
up with an alert or the bottom bottom twenty percent
of your flock, anything like that. So that is really
good having that ability with the studs, and then the
commercials we rattle them through. We're already done a color
(33:00):
earlier on to sort of have them tied it up
to just about the numbers we need anyway, and then
we just go through the race again and have the
staff of the chalk in the hand at the back.
If there's anything with DAGs or anything we don't like,
they'd put a we read on it. And then I
have that split second on the drafting gate to decide
whether you like them or not coming up if you
had a million miles in air.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So pre today's of technology, you reckon. It's a game
change of what you present them with these days.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Oh absolutely, But at the end of the day, the
tag's fantastic, but it doesn't store any information, So it
still comes down to your ability to be able to
use that information and store it. And I'm really lucky.
Kevin's fantastic on the computer and I just tell her
what it is that I want to have done and
she somehow manages to make it happen.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So how many Lambs did you have left compete to normal?
Were you pretty much on par?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
We're pretty much on par to be fair. Even though
the season i'd say has been a good couple of weeks,
if not a month, and behind where we normally are,
Lambs have still done really well. If anything, we've had
to chuck a wee bit more cobalt hit than this year,
I think, just they had that yeah, you see if
you're coming on with their scally years and that sort
of thing. So they've had two jebs that be twelve
(34:12):
now just to sort of keep them going, and they've
got that nice color and they are doing really well.
It'd be great, like fantastic season price wise. Just need
to try and yeah, get those weights up as much
as we can with yeah factoring and how far through
the season we're getting now and only about a month
away from looking to put the first of the.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Ramseel Now the crop side of things there, have you
got that harvested yet or was it to be announced?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
No, we're all spring so and BALI, so we're still
probably nearly a month away for that. But yeah, it
would certainly be keen to get some of that off
if we can and get some back into young grass
going forward to trying to ease that winter pressure or
weave so well.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You know, you sound like everything's pretty much at the speed.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
There's always jobs to do on the list standy, I've
been running behind the technology where we're saying it's great
on one. On the other hand, of my records for
the ram lambs, getting them cold down was a bit
later this year. Getting through so has put the pressure on.
So I should really be into selling rams this week,
but we're sort of going to put it off and
be into next week. Get the Wonica show out of
(35:14):
the way and yeah, rip into it.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Then as far as this price of fuel, with what's
happening in the Middle East, how are you viewing this
as obviously you're gonna have a lot of diesel on
the farm, that's a given when you're a cocky. Are
you having to change your approach at all?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
It's more just a nervous wait and see at the moment,
obviously we've gone through, We've filled up all the tanks
that we can. If there's some magic way that you
could sort of try and fix the price and just
sort of locking a few of those costs that we
know are going to be big ones going forward, would
be fantastic. But I haven't got the magic bullet for
getting around that one this yet.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Any you talk about the one that can show you're
heading up.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Yeah, I'll try and get up there for a day
anyway and just have a bit of a look around.
And we're not going to have a stand or anything there,
Just try and get around and catch up with a
few clients. And I think much most of people and
see eton tend to go up to that one of
for showing how it is just a nice one, especially
after the southern field goes down here, Momo, we're as
seen to be run around like a headless truck trying
to do jobs. To just go there and relax and
(36:12):
watch other people run around a lot better.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, it's a bit more relaxed after being on the
other side of the corner space.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
It is all right, but you find yourself going around
and sort of looking for week things that we could
do better with here one too, So yeah, you're always
going to learn something to any Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Coincidentally, the Muster's broadcasting live from Wanka on the Friday
snow Hey, thanks for your time once again. I don't
want to know your time on the hand piece to
show the young ones how it's done, so I'll let
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Speaker 4 (36:46):
I got a GOALKI Thenny.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
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(37:10):
to know what lovers the power ballad from back in
the day as we chat with our young farmers every Tuesday.
Richard White of Bay Tany Young Farmers joins us this afternoon. Richard,
good afternoon, hell says.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Not made yourself Andy?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Pretty good? That song there, I asked you before if
you do of it? Do you know of it now?
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (37:29):
I do now that I've heard it.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yep. How's everything on the farm out there? You're based
out of chatting, aren't you? Yeah? We are, yeh, yeh
getting how's the season been?
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Oh yeah, it's been being up and down really, there's
been a you know, we're looking pretty dry there around
Christmas time, but that's yeah. We've got the right rain
at the right time and everything's looking pretty good.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
To be fair well. So mother nature's providing for you
in autumn.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
It is yep. Yep. Could just deal with a bit
more son and a bit more wonder to get the
crops dry and what sort of stuff they'd be quite handy.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Are you having to match crop?
Speaker 6 (38:01):
Oh yeah, we've had to dry weab it. Yeah, it
hadn't been too too bad. We're just sort of blending
a webit of stuff. It's sort of been fifteen percent,
which sort of blending it with twelve percent stuff to
try and even how to weave it too.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Right, Hey young farmers at wait Tana, you're involved here.
It's been a pretty busy couple of months. We had
the regionals there. Well that's probably about a month ago now,
which is in the past, but that was a pretty
cool occasion.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Yep. No, the club's been very busy lately.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Last month was a very busy month for us yep,
with regionals and then also helping with doing a lot
of fundraising for the field Days and all that sort
of stuff like helping set up and pack down Sony
Creek and doing stuff with the Field Day's committee, and
also cable pulling at the end of the day as
well on the Friday, which was also a pretty big job.
(38:46):
But yeah, we've got plenty of people there and got
in and got it done.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So the field Days at south Side, did you men
as yet have a bit of a look around? Yep.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Yeah, I went down on the Friday and had a
look round, and yeah, spend a wea bit of money
and bought a couple of things here and there that
we're now and sort things that looked good. And yeah,
everything was looking real good.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Actually, Yeah, any major purchases for the farm were just
we for a jacket and it was about it.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Ah.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
Oh, we brought a couple of chainsaws and priced up
a spreader and a couple other bits and bobs here
and there, and just yeah, it had a good look around.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Really well, it sounds like the gorses out of the
pockets and you.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
Were buying Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, someone else has been going on with the club.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Oh, it's been the way it happened. Now it's sort
of slowed down, weave it with everyone being busy with
at this time of the year. But we're sort of
planning a Stewart Island trip at the moment, going to
go over to Stuart Island for three days and do
a bit of fishing, so that'll be cool. Other than that, yeah,
just trying to find a bit of fundraising to doing that.
And then yeah, we just had a pretty busy month
last month, so we're just going to take it easy
(39:47):
this month and do a bit of planning and try
and get a weave of the fundraising under our belt.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Have you been down there before?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Yeah, the club went on a trip down there in
twenty twenty two and we had a bloody awesome time.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Actually, I quite believe that knowing you lost. Hey, that's
one thing about why Toney, you guys are always out
and about being proactive. It's almost twelve months since you
went to uz He you're going down to Stuart Island.
So yeah, if you play to you guys, you're doing stuff.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Yeah, well, you know, you've got to keep people interested
and going out and doing things. You know, for the
amount of work that the people in the club put in,
you know, no, we've we've got to reward them and
you know, no better thing than going on trip together
and doing things, going out fishing and all.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
That sort of stuff. So yeah, so fundraising wise for
these trips, what do you do? You've had the field
days obviously, likes of wood splitting or anything. What have
you got up in the pipeline.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
We haven't got anything sort of lined up for this one.
We had a couple of fundraisers lined up that they
fell through that we haven't got anything lined up for
this one yet. We're just trying to find a way
bit of fundraising now to do for this Stuart Island trip.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
So yeah, well here's your opportunity. What kind of fundraising
are you after? Anything, right, anything required for fundraising's out
of young farmers there your team, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
Yep, we'll do Farwood and well we had a turn
up pulling thing lined up, but that fell through because
the seed has already dropped. But yeah, no, we'll do
anything that we can get a hands on.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Really, when do you guys hold your meetings?
Speaker 6 (41:17):
So we've got a meeting on next Monday on the
sixteenth at the Town and Country Club.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Nice, you guys get out in the bount for your
meetings as well, You're just not in the one place.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Yeah, no, we lot this shit around. You get a
good different crowd from everywhere so that people are from
different places around the place can come and join our meetings.
So you know, we've got a few members down sort
of Eden Dolls ways. It's bit harder for them to
drive allway to Gore of other sides, so we go
down to b Ton sometimes and Thomas Green as well. So, yeah, how.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Many members would you have turning out to meetings so
to day to suppose, because he's quite a few of you.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Yeah, no, we get pretty good turnouts anywhere between twenty
to thirty members depending on how busy how busy the
year is and all that sort of stuff and what
time of the year it is.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
As far as tail twisters for the next meeting, can
you give us a taste of what to expect.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Oh, there'll be just a lot of talk about this
trip coming up.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Really, no tail twists. Name in Shane someone he's coughed up.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Oh, I suppose you'll just have to come along to
the meeting and find out and listen to the who's
going to get the wooden spone? I suppose that is.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
A great answer. But the wooden spoon? What is the
wooden spoon?
Speaker 6 (42:27):
So the wooden spoons what you get if so you
get nominated and we'd go around the club and whoever's
had a bugger up for the month they get take
the wooden spoone home. It's just a piece of wood
with a spoon on it, a golden silver spoon on it.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
So that's what a wooden spoon generally is.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, just a bit of a
shame really that when you get it. I've had it
funny enough finds the South. It's pretty good laugh to
hear what people have been up to.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
So yeah, right, so social channels all be sway to
get in touch, Richard, I'd.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
Say Facebook, get on Facebook and look us up on Facebook.
We're on TikTok as well, and Instagram and all sort
of stuff, So you just an anything like that.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, TikTok, you little hipsters. Good on your Richard, Thanks
to the chat. All the best in the harvest of
this week that.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
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Speaker 1 (43:20):
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(43:43):
a good one, mate, love your work. We'll leave it
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the afternoon.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
Hey, well all right too, he go there and what
are you going again?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
It is time for stock selling it some thanks for
PGG right some. The Louisville sale occurred this morning, so
Sam Riley's on the line to talk these prices. Gida, Sam,
will we looking up for down today?
Speaker 7 (44:10):
Pretty similar to to last week, I'd say, mate, But
everything's very positive out there, so it's good to see
lamb prices today. There's good heavy lambs two forty eighty,
the medium's two hundred to two thirty five, and a
lot of primes at one ay one ninety five.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
Sean news.
Speaker 7 (44:27):
The best of those are two hundred to two seventy,
the medium is one seventy to one ninety and the
lottery in use at one thirty to one sixty, with
the tail end us at eighty to one hundred and
ten dollars. Handful of rams and today eighty tw one
hundred on the tops of those in sixty to seventy
on the mediums into the stare sheet probably just the
(44:48):
medium yarding of store lambs and today, but of course
it is similar to last week. One seventy to one
eighty five on the tops of those one fifty one
sixty five on the mediums and one thirty to one
forty on the lotter, and stuff into the kettle, very
large arching of kettle. I think we had one pen
left in the in the sale over the stalk primes
(45:09):
and store. So he's plenty plenty kettle in here mainly
made up of empty gairy heifers and still quarter fe
store kettle. Sir quotes on the prime kettle steers heapers
five hundred cag's plus they were four dollars eighty four
hundred and four to fifty kilow stuff four dollars. Forty
cows five four hundred and fifty kg plus three dollars
(45:30):
three dollars twenty, and those lighter cows at three fifty
four fifty kilos at two dollars eighty dairy heifers four
hundred kg plus dairy heipers they're still holding up at
four dollars to four dollars twenty. The medium heapers at
three fifty to four hundred kg's probably slipped back a
yebit to three sixty three eighty, and the lighter end
(45:50):
heapers at three hundred to three and fifty kilos they
were three dollars to three dollars thirty, So that light
of stuff probably slipped back all over there into the
store kettle. We move, and you said largely adding a
store kettle mainly made up of calves and if you're
adding a month of kettle here for cross tars at
four hundred and twenty kg's twenty one to twenty. Here
(46:10):
for cross heafer is at three hundred and sixty kilos
seventeen fifty the Murray Gray cross heafers at three fifty
three kilos seventeen forty into the calves here for cross
bull calves one hundred and eighty five kg's they were
one thousand dollars. Saray across four calves at two hundred
and twelve kilos twelve hundred dollars, and freezing balls at
(46:33):
one sixty to two twenty kilos they were nine hundred
thousand and fifty so a very good demand on those
better type of store of yelling kettle. And that wraps up.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
We'll mate.
Speaker 7 (46:44):
We do have a number of sales coming up this week,
clearing sales, that is. Just check the Facebook prey rights
and Facebook page or Saturday's paper for all the details.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
On Mars.
Speaker 7 (46:55):
We'll give you local rights and eight in the ring
if you need to know anything else.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
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