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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good afternoon and welcome to the Mustarine Hakinnui. My name's
Andy Muher. Here until two o'clock. Of course, the show
is brought to you by Clayton and the team at
Peter's Genetics. Welcome along to a blue sky filled afternoon
here and goore. It is rather cool, a temperature of
around nine degrees, but look still pretty good for what
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are we first through a June over and done with.
So we're not really complaining, right, We're going to head
up all everything going to plan to catch up with
Associate agminis to Mark Patterson some stage during the hour
to talk about the SOAPI report that was released this morning,
and we're just hearing as well the wall saal that
occurred in christ Church. Another real positive soil I think
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possibly at the top of my head maybe around seven percent,
so certainly something to keep an eye on there. Prince
for the music, This original name was Prince Rogers Nelson.
He changed his name to symbol and then the love
symbol and then he went back to Prince.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm tef from and
soft text. The proof is in the Progeny tear from
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Speaker 1 (01:13):
This afternoon cloudy are like northerleas at a higher thirteen. Friday,
partly cloudy, we come variable wins zero and twelve. That
says frost. Saturday partly cloudy become variable wins to and ten.
Sunday afternoon shalls of breezing or westleyes seven and sixteen.
That's not bad. And Monday shallers of Briege sou westerlyes
zero and nine. So temper just to hand Clinton seven
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point nine, Harriet seven point fort northern south and six
point six Riverton nine point eight, six point five Tidoroa
eight point eight Winter and five point nine of Woodlands
at eight point one. Nigel, what it gets us underway?
Excuse me? Farming in South Otago, like I say, all
going to plan. Mark Patterson's going to be having a
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yarn to us. Rachelle Smith and the beef lamb Slot
talking about what we're Amy's workshops Andrew Walsh twin farm
Genetics at home of tif Frong, we catch up the
snow to sell things are along the way Mere Valley
and our resident sport in Gury. Nathan Burden the whole
ben Stokes saga from a Quacker's viewpoint or a fans
viewpoint as well, and yeah, very talented crack of but
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unfortunately just a few issues went out on the lash.
Dave Morrison and PGG right soon gives a rundown on prices.
Sounds like things have been pretty positive and then we
get things underway with Nigel Woodhead. You're listening to the
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Speaker 2 (02:37):
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Speaker 1 (02:53):
Nidia Wadhead Farms in South Otago between Balcluther and Milton
ah nyd. Good afternoon, now you just come back Stuart Island.
Sounds like a good trip.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah afternoon. Yeah, on the you just got home on Saturday,
so yeah, it was good. Actually it was a bit
of a rough, rough introduction being back home Sunday Monday.
The old weirder wasn't too fresh. But it's all good.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I was playing ball, it was.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
We were leaving Bluff on the way over and Tye
who was taking as overseat ar it's not the worst
I've seen, but it won't be real comfortable. And we
Getty had a bluff and up down, up down, splash,
bit of water flying around, but in actually it was
in his bed, even heaty, not as dead as I
thought it was going to be, but it was probably
probably worse on the way back, to be fear. But
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that was nothing, nothing serious, to be honest. I yeah,
I was a weir, a average on the way over,
but I was finding the way home.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I was going to say, what do you see leagues
like they.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Have the moments they come and go. Sometimes I am
absolutely sweet, and other times, like on the way over
last year, then I was no good. I was a
very unhelpy little boy. But then this year I just
got my got the obligatory vomb out of the road
real quick, and then he just went downstairs and lay
on a bead and I was happy years after that.
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So yeah, I think that's the key in those big
boats that I've got got a bead, Just go down
stairs and and get as close to water level as
you can and take some of that rocking out of it.
And for me, anyway line down helps me. But like
I say, on the way home, yeah, we'd speed a
fever at a time on the boats cruising round while
we're down there fishing and diving and stuff, so you
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start to get you start to get used to it
a bit by the time we come home. But then
you know, like I say, even when we go fishing
up here, sometimes I'm all right and sometimes I'm no good.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
My say, legs are terrible. I mean, once upon a
time I was up north with Shen and her family,
were literally twenty meters off shore, and I got crooked
here and they just say, just keep looking up, keep
looking up, and what bagger looking at? I just need
to lie down. But it didn't work that way. I hit,
I hit terra firm, but I just lay on the
ground like any defrayme getting out of the prison I was.
I was out of there.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah. I've had moments like that too. But usually usually
if I feel average, I'll usually throw up and then
I'm all right, okay, yeah, make myself carry on, because
there's nothing worse than being no good and then just
being a second ship for the whole trip. Even to
day we went for a dive and then went out
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Firs shinging, and I felt a bit average. Then yeah,
same thing, just force your horse yourself to carry on.
But some's a state of mind.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Anyway, a bit of work stories on the must mate.
How's everything on the ranch.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, it's been the first ten minutes about holidays. Yeah,
you really got the ranch awesome. Actually, I'm out and
about the moment, just winding up some hot wise and
your ground conditions are really good. User utilise on the
graph and giving a bit of baylage. Count two mobs
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of ballcarbs on for the bat the same thing. Yeah,
I utilization is really really good, I thinks today. And
one more that really hooking through eating a lot more
eerie than what I thought they would be, and that
being reasonably, I'm pretty much fully feed. So yeah, I
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might just captain back a little bit and just poke
a bit more bailage under them to to try and
push that crop out of But it's just early enough
in the season to be doing the mess and the
myths not hiding up. So yeah, now we took along
really good. Actually the plane was for the mix. I
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used to go and crop probably early next week, but
we don't have to have to shoot, right, we're right
at the back at the moment. Shoot home to the
front of the farm and to chew some blocks out.
We've got some pretty big rabbit shoes and some petdocks
near the house, so we'll chew all of them out
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and get some poison on later in the month, I think.
So you will take the use home now and get
those paddocks chewed out and eat some grass now that
was probably going to be eating later on, but then
they can go and crop a bit later and just
shuffle over the grounds. That's sort of what we're up to.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
How bears the ribbit population here? Population where you are, ah.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Here's an't a problem, but rabbits in certain parts of
the farm are like play proportion, like really really really bad.
We've got a pedicky young grass just near the house
that was planted in February. The other two paddicks that
were planted on the same day with grazed, one of
them twice and one of them once. And this one
with the rabbits is beer. It looks like a bowling
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green lot. There's just absolutely nothing there is. You know,
you drive out there in the in the evening and
then the early evening there's probably trying to rabbits on
a four heap. Your petit maybe even more like it's
bad and no amount of shooting can keep them and
they control you sort of cruise down there, even walking
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with the rifle. You let one shot off, shoot one
rabbit and the rest of them are in the trees
in a way. So the only way we're going to
make it done to themes with poison. And yeah, we'll
get into that later in the later in the month.
So in certain parts of the farm it's really bad.
There's farms down below, so you spend teams of thousands
every year trying to control rabbits around here. It's yeah,
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they're they're really bad.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's plague like proportions.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Oh yeah, like I say, losing a four he panic
young grass. Yep, that's not good. Yeah. I was going
to poison last year and then it was a bit
slack and then kind of forgot about and thought, oh no,
it'll be right. Well, man, I wish ahead because I
don't know if it would have made a big difference,
but it would have done something to knock that knock
the numbers down in the once a year.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So what's a possim pop lation?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Like the on the rivers, the possums are climbing. But
when we come home ten years ago, you go out
at night rabbit shooting, shooting, and if you hit one
or two possums, you're doing well. Most of the time. Now,
if I go to a lamp of all the hot
spots around the farm, it'll be well under double figures
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twenty sometimes thirty. And yeah, so in like the forestry,
we're going to well, probably two caves of forestry boundary
at the back, and the company are working their way
around towards us harvesting. So probably in months two years
they'll be on our boundary. So that's going to push
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all the the possums. Just work your way in front
of the harvesters, obviously, So in a couple of years,
I do say we'll have a wave of the little
bucker's turning up. But I try and get out for
a shoot as often as I can in just try
and keep a little on things. And you know, like
I say, you know, twentythre earlier night, if we can
keep it at that, then it's all right. But if
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we go out and there's waves of them, it'll be
it won't be good.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, there's big numbers. You're talking like, is there any
funding available to have you guys out or is that
just the lord of the land what you're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'm not sure if there's funding or not. Blaming the
Tuger Regional Council missed the track. There a couple annual plan,
a couple of long term plan rounds ago and they
didn't put possums in the pest list or in like
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for a very small amount of money they could have
your head funding available to control possums. I was talking
the old man about it. There was some thing about it.
They didn't put it in the in a specific ranking.
So now the regional council don't do anything about it.
It's really annoying. So I don't know if there's funding available. Well,
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I mean, I don't mind shooting them. We'll just keep
on trying to keep a lid on them. But I
know that it's coming. There's definitely funding for rabbits. I
know these guys around us have head funding for rabbit
control and rabbit feaching and things. We're probably not quite
at the next stage du but we keep losing younger
as it might get to there. But I don't know
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fencing fencing with rabbit meeting around this four he coopedity
I was talking about. It's got about nine hundred meters
of forestry boundary on one for hepopedit. So trying to
keep rabbits, trying to rabbit feenchdad'll be an absolute nightmare.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Good on you, Ige'll leave it. They're good to see
you back on ground tier further after a good holiday.
Way and we'll catch up in due course.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Got it. Cheers Andy.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Noger want here in South Tago having real issues with
rabbits won't be the only one. Either you're listening to
the muster or going to plan next. We're catching it
with Mark Petterson on the ground up at National Field Days.
(12:06):
Welcome back to the muster on Hocken We mark Patterson
as Minister of Rural Communities. Here's the Associate Minister for Agriculture.
He's on the ground up at Mystery Creek Field Days,
the National Field Days. Mark. Good afternoon. A lot of
positives for the rural sector going by the Safe Sophie Report.
Soapie report out this morning.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
After Andy, Yeah, look really positive. Up another couple of
billion from what we were predicting at Christmas time the
last time we updated this. We got a bit of
background noise there, Sorry, but yeah, that really positive. The
odd billion dollars three billion dollars method.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
This will be expected though, mark given that the industry
is still thriving with the prices.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, yeah, not unexpected. You know that rare, rare events,
isn't it. We've had a great growing season and a
really strong commodity pricess, so you know, we'll take that
any day long. But the ford projections are also still
pretty strong, so we're not expecting this to be a bloop.
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We're expecting this to be maintained. And you know, the
forward projections are pretty pretty solid too well.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
For the end of the month, it's projected to be
sixty four point three billion dollars and going up by
twenty thirty to seventy point one billion dollars. So that's
some healthy figures.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, and really important for New Zealand. Like you know,
once again, rural communities are farming sectors dragging us out
of a hole. So you know, we're really grateful for that.
It couldn't have come at a bit of time for
the economy as a whole, and everyone in New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Now dairy export up five meat and wall at fourteen
will come back to that. Horticulture revenue up seven process
food and other products even up five percent as well.
But the key figure there for me is seeing the
wall export too. Because we had the sale and christ
Church Care today. Sounds like that was another good news
story for the industry, but the sector needed it too.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah. Yeah, we're playing a bit of catch. But I've
just come out of the piggy rights and tents and
they tell me the options up eight percent today after being.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Up six percent unreal last.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Week, So we we should have blown through that seven
dollars for the strong wall indicator. And of course those
top fleeces they must be you'd have to think they'll
be pushing up towards eight bucks kilo if it's percent
on last week. So really positive news. So yeah, it's
for those that have biled in, you know, it's well deserved.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I've talked to a couple of farmers though they're expressing
a bit of concerns, saying we just need to be
realistic around red meat at the moment because they've been
burnt in the past or is this just a different
era and we're finally seeing these prices stay pretty buoyant.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Look, I think it's a different era a little bit.
And I know what they're saying. I mean, we seen
these you know, these things do go in cycles. But
I think the fundamentals that's you know, not only is
it a lack of supply you know, around the world,
but actually growing demand and there's a few different drivers.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
At the moment.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
These weight loss drugs seem to be having an impact
in terms of the need high protein diets, more nutrient
dense diets for the food they are eating, So people
on those drugs, So that seems to be a big
macro trend that's emerged that's underpinning the red meat. So,
you know, however we get it, I don't really care.
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It's great news.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The terriffs of the US, this new rounded terriffs of
twelve point five percent possibly higher. Is that a concern?
And more hot air?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Oh, look, it is a wee.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Bit of a concern. You know. It's just an uncertain
world out there, and that's certainly a bit of theme
coming through the field days. The mood is fantastic, but
there's just that little bit of caution because they're hearing
these stories, whether it be tear us, whether it be
you know, the fuel situation and the geopolitics, so you know,
we can't pretend that that doesn't have a bit of
an impact on confidence, but certainly we're writing writing through
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it pretty good at the moment.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Riley Kennedy of Business Desks said, a lot of overseas
envoys at Field Days this year. When you're talking to
these voys, Mark, what are they saying about the event
in New Zealand in general?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I think they're blowing away by it. I mean, as
anyone that's been here will know just the scale of it.
And I think that's always the impressive thing, the bread
and scale. You know, when agriculture comes together and horticulture.
You know, sometimes when you chipping away on your own
farm or your own rural business, it's hard to conceptualize
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you're part of such a major, major industry and you know,
it all comes together here at Field Days like it
does it by murmur and you get that sense of
just how big and powerful it is, and particularly in
the New Zealand context, and indeed in an international context,
as you'll loose just finally mark Mystery Creek Field Days
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as an event that seems to.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Get bigger by the year. How would you describe it
to previous field days.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Oh, look, the crowds are shoulder to shoulder today. The
mood is just brilliant. It really is. What I'm hearing
from some of the exhibitors say the banks as well.
Just still a degree of caution around some of the
big expenditure, you know, for some of the reasons we
just talked about before, but certainly in terms of your
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general inputs your fertilizer and your fencing.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
And all that.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
You know, there's a lot of investment going go back
into farms, which is great news. They're either going to
have you're going to have to spend it on your
own property, or you're going to have to give it
to us in packs. And I know that that's to
be a very secondary aim for most farmers. So yeah,
we're hoping they invest.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It back in their businesses.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Are you seeing many labor or green empeas around on site?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
A rare breed rare breed andy, Yeah, I know that's
been a bit conspicuous by their agents. There is one
or two plating rounds to be fre but I don't
know they've got a stand which is a wee bit
surprising and particularly giving it selection here.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Hey, good on you, Mark. We appreciate your time on
the Muster, especially at short notice. You enjoy Mystery Creek.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Thanks Andy, Thanks everyone, Mark Patterson.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Great news coming out there irrigating the figures with what
the rural sector is doing for the New Zealand economy.
But we all know that right, Great to catch up
with the Minister at short notice. Rachelle Smith's up next
on the Beef and lambslot.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
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Speaker 1 (18:44):
Joining us in the Beef and Lamb slot this afternoon
is Rachelle Smith out of NSFES. But today we're talking
about were in Burton, something that has popped up on
more southern farms more frequently. I suppose it would be
the best way to put it over the last couple
of seasons out and to the Muster.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Hi Andy, thanks for having us look.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The worm bred in situation has been talks about a
lot recently. A few worm Wise workshops have occurred over
the past couple of days and just people wanting to
talk about the problem and how they rectify it.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Yeah, it's we say, a problem, but yeah, it's been
something that's been on everybody's minds for quite a while,
and I think we've sort of we've never thought that
we didn't have a worm problem, but it is starting
to become more to the front of people's minds now,
which is brilliant.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So why is it getting so bad?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah, so it's it's probably always been there, to be fair,
but we do stutch to see a lot more problems
coming into autumn a little bit like now, obviously we're
well into June, but the season's very autumnal still. You know,
we've still got fourteen fifteen degree climates and we haven't
really had very many frosts, so that the conditions are
favoring survival with larvae on the pasture and as well
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by the when we get to autumn. What we're actually
seeing is a bit of a reflection of the drench
decisions and things that were made early in the season
and all the management decisions are starting to sort of
come to a head now and building up on the pastures.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Well, that's probably the big concern at the moment, with
the lack of frost. So I mean, you can ask
you that's the wind to reset where you sterilize in
the ground. If we don't see these run of frost,
that's a big if because this is the South and
we're praying to seeing it happen sooner than later. Is
that just going to exasperate the problem?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yes, the frost is one of the tools that we
have utilized us bose down here to help us control
our parasites. But use it will certainly help slow things down,
but it won't actually kill the worms like weird hopes.
Depending on the species you're talking about, there's definitely some
there that can quite happily survive some free store cycles.
So use it's a tool, and but that's just can't
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be relied on anymore to control our worms.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So what do we need to do? I mean, drenching
programs comes first and forefront to mind. Once upon a
time where there's a drench rotation of a clear white
and a combination maybe are mixed and thrown in for
good measure, but we just can't rely on that these days.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Yeah, absolutely, So we're pretty lucky down here. A lot
of our farmers still have some pretty good eficcies to
our drenches. But bear in mind that something could be
working quite well early in the season and then come
to autumn it can appear like the wheels have fallen off.
So we sort of get people saying, well, you know,
they shouldn't really need a drench yet, but they're starting
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to look a bit wormy, or they're a bit lethargic,
or they're just not quite reaching their target live weights
that they've been doing. Sometimes that's, yes, a build up
of drench resistance over the season, but sometimes it is
a reflection of some of the management and actually those
sheep are just eating too many larvae, So the drench
could be working fine, that by being exposed to a
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high number of larvae that are in the past is
an autumn just that alone can actually drop the repetite
decrease growth rates and then eventually, you know, lead to
major issues like you know, skinny stock and even deaths.
So it's not always drench.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Resistance surpass your management comes under the equation.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Absolutely, yep. And that's a big, big part of what
the wormwise workshops are about, is like, drench is just
one of the tools, but a big, big chunk of
it comes out of on what you can actually do,
you know, to manage that autumn flush, I suppose that
autumn rise. Yeah, so first of all, determining if it
is a worm issue I suppose, and not just you know,
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something with the feed situation. So doing the accounts is
always important just as a bit of a reflection, if anything,
to show you how much the how much contamination is
actually out there. Like it's a tool to say, yeah,
I need to drench or not, but also it's a
tool to say, well, how has my management gone up
to Now? If those accounts start rapidly climbing, you know
that you're in a high contamination environment, so you need
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to an autumn. You've got to get them off that
contaminated pasture. Basically, this is lambs really we're talking about.
So a lot of guys may already have their lambs
on things like kale or rape. But if you don't
then and you're starting to see these problems, then you
really do need to get mostus ordum pasture. And I mean,
if you don't have access to that sort of thing,
you may have to make those decisions on either quitting
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a few lambs, selling to the works a slightly lower weight,
just taking that lower weight you may be selling a
store or you might not have wanted to, and you
may even be having to look at grazing these lambs
somewhere else out off to a place that's got maybe
set up for keeping lambs off pastures.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Richelle, would you say there's an issue with the quarantine
of stock after drenching, so they're not just going back
onto a pasture and reinfecting it.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, So that's another big section that comes into our
worm Wise workshops really is what do we do with
these sheep after drenching. So first of all, you've got
to know if your drench has worked, and as these
drenches may not be working so well, particularly an autumn,
you don't want to be doing our old drench and
put onto clean pasture because you straight away could be
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creating a contaminate environment with worms that are resistant. So
you've turned this clean paddic into a paddict that only
has worms you can't kill on it. So the recommendation
is to put them somewhere where if anything does the drench,
it's going into an already contaminated environment, so and not
going out and seeding the rest of your farm with
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these resistant strains. So that might be either drenching them,
putting them back where they came from, or you might
be shifting them to a cleaner area for a day
or two and then drenching them just so that you're
not getting a variety of those worms out back into
the pasture.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
A lot of people are using kettle in the paddocks
as well as far as controlling pasture. What approach do
you need to take around this as such?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Yeah, so that's an awesome way, Like, you know, you
want to get those lambs off that fee, but something's
going to want to eat it. So what are you
going to put through? Their cattle are a great choice
if you've got access to them, even calves is okay,
a different different species of animal. If you don't have them,
then protect the Potentially you've got some old views or
some mixtage us that could go around there quite happily
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that are in good condition or even good condition too.
If they are in good condition and can handle a
high worm burd and deal with it themselves, then they.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Could go through.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
You know, ideally the older, older ewes would be better.
And also thing about that paddock too, something that I
did want to stress really is what you're going to
do with that in the future, like that paddock is hot,
So yes, you want to grade those other animals through it,
try and clean up those worms that are out there,
but you're probably going to end up lambing out there.
Most of the places will lamb on every part of
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their farm, But you don't want to be lambing any
hoggets or your two dus on that pasture because you're
just going to set up there next to your lambs
for failure. Really, so if you can find your mixt
age used proof forably maybe your singles to then go
and lamb over that pastures that lambs were on in autumn.
If that makes sense, then there are a lower risk.
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And the one thing you definitely don't want to do
is you don't want to wean next year's lambs onto
these passes that you've had lambs on in autumn.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Just finally, the issue of drench resistance if it's not
it's not put under. Just finally, rashell regarding drench resistance,
if it isn't contained, Just how bad could the situation get?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, it can get quite bad if you continue to
think you're going to drench your way out of this situation.
So probably we look to where in North Island people
where it is. It is worse up there, it's fair
to say so, just looking and learning from things that
they have done. But it's not impossible to get yourself
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out of out of a drench resistance hole. But it's
not going to be solved with drench So the management
may even be changing your whole farm system, your whole
mindset around what stock you're going to have, what stock
classes and at what times of the year, and extra
feed that you're going to put in, extra finishing feed
to try and get those lambs. Basically reducing lamb days
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on farm or lamb days on graph is going to
be we You're going to be looking for the future
to be able to keep farming in the face of
drench resistance.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Rachelle Smith, thanks very much for your time on the
master of this afternoon.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Awesome enjoyed it. Thank you mister.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Rachelle Smith, a vet out at riversdalve in his fens
for talking today regarding pasture management and that issue around
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(28:02):
Welsh joins us next. Of course he is part of
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Muster farming along the way Mere Valley not far from
Endivile snow House Eggs.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Yeah, fantastic, beautiful sunny day here on the Wye here
early Andy. We touched a frost this morning, but nothing
we can't handle.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It's a pretty good start to winter.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Yeah, fantastic. Really heard of the radio that there's a
record autumn temperatures, so that would fit with what we're
seeing for the season. Getting really good grass growth still
even right through now into sort of early early to
mid June. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Is this as good a grass growth that you've seen
for the time of year.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Absolutely, yep.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I think that we're but to be fair, the whole
season has been a bit like this. We've sort of
been a month behind all the way through, so this
sort of grass growth will getting now sort of what
we get early May, so that would sort of fit
with how season's gone.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
To be fair, went to transitioning would have been a breeze.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
So far, so good, but don't jinx. So we haven't
got everything on crop yet, but most things are on
now and well and truly into winter mode behind fences
and that sort of thing. I've just got a couple
of mobs of carves on the hill that will bring
down and get them adjusted on the crop the next
next week.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, you can only play what's in front of you.
And yes, the tide wall change, but at the moment,
you know, you just got everything smelling of roses, and
enjoy it while we have it.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yes, yep, that's all we can do. Really carry on
with that, and yeah, you're right, just do the things
you can do.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Well, you're not getting dry or anything ridiculous, No.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
No, if anything, I'd say that we're like perfect conditions.
We've got there's enough moisture in the soil, it's not
too wet. It's yeah, as good as it gets. We
just don't want that white fluffy stuff hanging around the
hills just yet, or otherwise we'll be into real hard
for us.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
So the focus at the moment just went to feeding.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Yeah, we've actually got the dipper in today. So we're
running all the stock through the yard, so it's a
good chance just get the iback over how all the
mobs are doing with adjusted on the crops and everything.
So stock are doing really well, as you'd expect with
nice conditions like this.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
You normally dip around March. Any reason why the change?
Speaker 6 (30:10):
We normally we sort of dipping because the risk of fly.
But this year we never had that wave of fly
come through that we touched you in April, but nothing
too major. So yes, one of those things a sort
of almost forgot about to be fair, and yes we've
been able to get around good practice, just to run
them through and just treat anything that's there or any
life or anything that might be starting to show up.
(30:30):
Not that I think there's anything there, but yeah, just
good practice.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
So you're doing it for fly and lice today, No
just lice.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, No, there'd be a real problem if we are
having to worry about flying the winter, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
As far as life though, has it been in this
year at all? Have you seen anything as such over
the past season or two.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
No, it's been pretty good, probably more the kettle side
of things. We just put them all through and give
them a poor on there. Just last week and I
just saw the odd one just starting to have we
scratch around there around the tip of the tail or,
up at the base of the tail that's where you
sort of start to notice it. So yeah, just good
time and to get that. You get them in the
winter mode and they're close contacts, and if you don't
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treat them that life can explode later on in the
winter if you don't watch it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
The best thing about now is feed utilization. That's pretty
much a capacity.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Yes, yep, it is really so. But as the saying, like,
we're a month behind.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
We never got that.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Real flush of feed, so we've had to buy in
all the bailage. But we're getting really good utilization out
of crops at the moment, so we'll take that of
a bit of a win and hopefully we sneak through
winter a ride.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
At the other end, I remember you're saying that last
time we spoke, things were pretty tight. You tend to
forget these things, it is.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
But yeah, amazing the difference a month makes. So we're
still definitely tight. But the stocker in good condition. The
grass has been growing more than what we budgeted on. Yeah,
winter crops are utilizing more than what we thought they would,
so onwards and upwards, and they're still going to be
tight at the other end, but I think going to
snake scrape through up the stage.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Now you are quite a few deer in your operation
as well. How are they seeming through the winter stages?
So far?
Speaker 6 (32:08):
So far, so good? You always have ups and downs.
We just put them through and drink some yesterday, but yeah,
just went round and round on me. Had three diomies.
So I took them down to the vet yesterday and
we've taken some more topses and some samples and we'll
see see what's going on there. But there was nothing
obvious the vit could notice, but just really randomed all
of a sudden have three really nice replacement yelling star in.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
You that be gee, that's always a freakish occurrence.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
It was, That's what I thought. And yeah, when I
rang the vet and yeah, they said they didn't have
one available on a well, too bad. I'm bringing them down.
Want to find out what's going on with them.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
It's just yeah, that's just one of those things where
you've got live stock, you got dead stock. A lot
of people don't like there saying but hey, this reality
of farming.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
That is one of those things yet and you can't
really do anything about it. But yeah, just for there
wasn't anything obvious that we saw, and even when the
ved autopsy then they couldn't find anything anything that was
obviously wrong that would cause it. But yeah, and all
all all the other ones are looking really good. So
just one of those things. Lung worm's quite bad and deer,
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so that was what we're drinking them four just to
make sure that we keep that riders they're addressing on
the wind crops.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
So how often are you drenching deer as such? I
know cattle is very minimal, what about with those those animals.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Fairly similar to any young stop. Really the life cycle
of that lung worm's only like three weeks, so we
try about about every month that we're looking at drinking
the deer. Yeah, is the real tricky animals to actually
take a feekle weg count from. So we've just tried
that now just to make sure there's nothing there that's
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coming through. Yeah, it's one of those things that just
got to basically stick to that sort of four weeks
and get them through in the young young stage as well.
They're growing and got that risk of lung worm in
the autumn.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Now ahead do we break and Nzie recently as well,
so good chance to get a bit of Arona before
the winter winter grind kicks in for proper.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Mum and Dad actually had their fiftieth wedding anniversary, so
all kids got together and decided we're going to do
something special for them. So we all met on the
Gold Coasts and went away and holiday for a week.
So it was fantastic, just what the body needed to
get away and have that winter break and just free
charge the batteries.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
But busier than Gore.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Yeah, absolutely a lot warmer than Gore too, Like yeah,
weichie twenty two to twenty four degrees all the time
we're over there sitting on the beach and on the
theme parks. So but yeah, just remember that slip slop
and slapped the old sunscreen to come home with a
sunburned back, which I didn't quite need.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
That was an on your bingo card.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
No, it wasn't that much fun. But he drenching the
deer the last few days either with a drench pack on.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Your back oh you poor, So we will.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
That'll teach me though.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Anyway, how's it going with Wonderer? Is this year you're
putting the boots on again?
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Yep, yep, sure, I am still strapping them on and
I near trying to keep up with the young fellas.
So no, we're going really good. We've got a good
young team there this year, so we're just going to
get better and better as a season goes through. So
we're not we're certainly not tabletopping or anything this year,
but yeah, it's a good crew to be part of
and gets you off the farm doing something for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
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Speaker 6 (35:27):
All right, Good to gold Indian near. Good luck with
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Speaker 1 (35:35):
And you Welsch and A. Twin Fan Genetics the home
of Tiff From. Great to have them on board. Nathan
Burden is a resident sporting guru. We have a catch
up next, Welcome back to the Muster. Pauraple Rain is
a song by Prince our resident sporting gurry. Nathan Burden
(35:57):
joins us. Good afternoon, Nathan. He passed away. His anniversary
was this week left a Google WI year it was,
but very recently actually, when you think about it, how
are you?
Speaker 7 (36:08):
Yeah? I'm good mates here the artist formerly known as
how a pretty talented musician.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
That guy out and he was supposed to be taking
Michael Jackson's lead and we are the world USA for
Africa in eighty four, but he turned it down.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Well, there you go, you go.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Speaking of talent, we've got a lot of talent on
show tomorrow night, Friday Night for the ILC South On
Sports Awards. We've got sixty nominees across twenty two sporting codes,
so in about eight or nine categories where we were
going to be announcing, announcing the winners, but also celebrating
some pretty amazing achievements from the last twelve months or so.
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But gee, there's there's some famous names that are going
to be that are going to be read out, some
great stuff to talk about.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
So looking forward to Friday night.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, congratulations to Jacob Duffy who's going to go back
to back for the main award. I'm just putting it
out there. Hey, Ben Stakes, what do we make of
this guy? Very good cricket, are very talented, he's a leader,
but is he really a leader? I mean, he's got
too many blemishes beside his name now for me, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Speaking of talented cricketers, Ben Stokes, I mean I think,
I mean, some of those Sunday sessions can be some
of the best.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Sessions of your life, can't they.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
But I guess when you're the English cricket captain and
the team has been under pressure and under fire for
some time, potentially ever since the last Ashes series, then
this is not a position that you want to put
yourself or your your or your coach Bears McCallum, who's
also been under similar sort of pressure. You know, this
(37:40):
is pretty pretty average timing. So could this be the
thing that sort of spells the end of both of them? Well, potentially,
we'll just have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
The English cricket team is one of the most scrutinized
sporting teams on the planet to the English football team,
courtesy of the Fleet Street Press, which is relentless, but
nonetheless saying these guys need to realize they just got
to toe the line. It just comes as a territory.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, once upon a time, what
went on tour stayed on tour. That's certainly not the
case now in these days of social media and whatnot.
And it was pretty intriguing really to be able to
sit down, you know, only a day or so later
and be able to read a story which was almost
a blow by blow account of the rolling Feast that
(38:27):
was the English celebrations after that, that opening Teast win
over New Zealand. So there's year there's no secrets anymore,
but all the people involved know that's the case. But yeah,
it doesn't always mean that the behavior follows sup.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
But from a black CAP's perspective as a fan, that
was really disappointing. Yes, the purchase below average, but we
both had the equal opportunity to go out there and
make a name for ourselves and all of a sudden,
you're fast forwarding to Australia. We're living in Great Hope.
It's like the Stags and we had a shield challenge
thirty years ago. You're always thinking maybe one day we'll win.
But I don't see what the black Caps are going
(39:07):
I don't see what they take to Ozzie that's going
to scare this Soussie bowling attack.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Certainly need to find some runs, don't we, And and
I guess it's increasingly obvious that that Kane Williamson is
no doubt he's in the twilight of his career, and
what a career it's been. But there's we can't rely
on it on a Caine and a Swan song. Sure
he's probably got you know, he's going to have another
beginnings in him.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
At some stage before he does pull up stumps.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
And there are a number of tests on the on
the calendar for in the next twelve months, so he'll
get a chance to do that. But you know, we've
got to find some find some runs from somewhere. That
that Pitts did look diabolical at times. That ball was
moving all around the place, wasn't it. But as you say,
both teams had to bet on it. I guess we
just needed that one or two players who could dig
(39:55):
in and do something heroic get themselves on that on
his board at Lord's for scoring runs would have been
would have been amazing and potentially that was their best
chance of getting a win in this series. But I
guess if we've learned anything it's never to count this
black Cats team out. I think over the years, as
we've seen different players retire, you turn Bolts and at Seatram,
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we've sort of we thought, well that's it for the
golden era of New Zealand cricket. But they just sort
of keep on keeping on. So you know, they've they've
earned a bit of faith and I guess we'll stand
with them for a bit longer.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Southern Steel they've got the top of the table clash
or nearly top of the table against the Tactic six weekend,
and the Steel need to finish pretty much for us,
don't they Just to solidify your home advantage.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
Just just absolutely everything to play for. You know. I
guess those of us who hark back to to to
a few years ago and can remember those great rivalry
between the Southern Sting and Canterbury Flames Robin Broughton and
Mark Foster back in the day, and the Sting teams
just always seem to have the edge over the over
the christ It's so but you know, it's been eleven
(41:01):
games now since the Steel of beaten the Tactics, what
a what a great time it would be to break
that duck. And as you say, you know, a win,
potentially a win would give them a home qualification final,
depending if results went their way the night before and
the Magic could somehow sneak a win over the Mystics,
(41:22):
it could even give them a home you know, a
home advantage all the way through to a potential Grand final.
And how big would that be? But yeah, I mean
it's gonna be awesome when you Threw hasn't had a
win over Donald Wilkins. Obviously, the two Southern coaches going
head to head doesn't get any better than that, So
you know, it's it's pretty easy to get excited for
this one. Southern Steel do have hit a bit of
(41:45):
a speed bump in terms of losing their captain, can
you're a ploy such an influential player in that team.
But you know they did show against the Stars last
week that there's still plenty of magic there, so you know,
hopefully they can get the job done.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
South and in the NBL the same thing. They're just
going on their winning ways.
Speaker 7 (42:04):
Yeah, it's been an interesting process, I think just over
the last couple of weeks bringing Tobias cameraon and Max
Darling into what was already a pretty strong team. So
I guess that's been their challenge, just to sort of
rework that chemistry within the within the squad. They've they've
got massive depth now and and they've sort of get
it there at that stage where they don't need to
seem Timmins to go out there and score thirty points
(42:27):
and get a whole bunch of rebounds because they can
share that workload around. So I guess they're just working
out how they're going to do that, and they head
up for Nelson this weekend take on the Giants. Giants
sitting well down the table. So but you know, potentially
a bit of a banana skin game too, because you know,
you'd hope that they won't there won't be any complacency.
(42:49):
It's an early afternoon game, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
So hopefully the.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
Sharks can keep on their their winning ways because they
need to keep pace and keep touch with the Auckland
to Atara, it would be lovely if they could, if
we could just knock him off the top of the table.
Towards the end of the round robin and get home
advantage for those finals.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yes, certainly if they will leave it there. Always good
to chat mate.
Speaker 7 (43:12):
Awesome, thanks mate.
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go Theregg writes some present stock selling action. Once again
it occurred at Charlton, say this morning to Dave Morrison's
on the line, tigle, we heard you were you You
were the lucky charm at Lawnville on Tuesday. Did that
continue today?
Speaker 5 (43:58):
It did?
Speaker 9 (44:00):
Yeah, medium size. Yet they to start up the prime lambs,
the best, the very very very best lands three three
thirty million lambs sort of two forty five for two
seventy five. And this was the lighter of the prime lamps,
that the one only five to two hundred, Like I said,
is the top end, the very top of very top
of probably three sexy but exception vams into the ram
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section rams heavy rams, one thirty light rams country dollars
into the US use just a very small yelium user
today the best of the US touchouvertohndred dollars and down
to twenty five hundred and thirty five for the lighter
US for very localist US fifty to sixty dollars into
(44:47):
the store year beside jellium store lams, there's day any
best store lamps are two ten to two twenty mediums
sort of one eighty five to two hundred with the
smaller the of the store lamps. It's the runner's of
one thirty five to one fifty and like I said,
just to be associated made. But once again that's a
pretty strong demand.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
So that landmarket, that's pretty much what we're going to
see for the next wee while I.
Speaker 9 (45:11):
Think so yeah, yeah, it may even strengthen it. But
it's very very good, very good
Speaker 7 (45:17):
Gamebody make it