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Andy Muir talks to Jon Pemberton, Jeff Grant, Ben Dooley, Logan Savory and Andrew Welsh.

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster On Hakanui twenty
twenty six edition. My name is Andy Muer. Thanks for
joining us. Of course, the show is brought to you
by the team at Peter's Genetics. Welcome along after hiatus
of a couple of weeks while we do the holiday thing.
And yeah, it was a good one down here in
the Deep South, although this for yourn it's the weather

(00:35):
has been a little bit jecky and hide all over
the show. We'll talk the weather shortly, so we're just
easing back into the new year with the exponents and
Jordan Luck the song here Victoria Classic.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin Farm teff from and
seftext the proofs and the progeny teff from dot co
dot inz.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
This afternoon knowing cloudy with breezy westerlies and fifteen. Tomorrow
cloudy with breezy Northwesterly's eleven and twenty Wednesday rayvend lights
sou Westerly is on the horizon ten and sixteen. Thursday
cloudy with breeze at sol easterlies ten and fourteen, and
Friday a little bit better, cloudy with breezy south Eastlees
eleven and nineteen so temperatures a hand Clinton fifteen point nine,

(01:22):
Harriet thirteen point eight, Northern South and fourteen point six,
Riveton sixteen point one to now sixteen point three. Top
of the pops, Winton fourteen point eight and Woodlands at fifteen.
John Pembleton of Menzies Fairy starts us off in the
Sergeant Dan Farming ground Up, followed up by Jeff Grant,
Ben Dooley, Sheep Beef and YouTube Farmer. He's got a

(01:42):
positive message regarding fish and game as well. Logan Savery
of the Southern Tribune comments on the passing of Sir
Tim Schabolt and Andrew Welch twin farm Genetics a home
at Tephron. We have to catch up, of course farming
down there in the Waimea Valley, but without further Ado
will start the hour next with John Pembleton. This is
the muster until two o'clock thanks to Peter's Genetics. John

(02:18):
Pembleton of Menzies Fairy joins us in the Sergeant Dan
Farming round Up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan stock foods here
in Gord John, good afternoon and welcome to twenty twenty
six on the mustard.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, I hope you had a good New year, Andy,
It was a good new year.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Spent it up in Tian Now. The weather was sometimes
a bit schizophrenic, but there were a few warm days
and a few cooler days, but certainly this morning for
the latter.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, but hey, if it's bringing moisture, will take It
was desperately needed to rain then down in south and
by the looks, and everybody's quite pleased to see it.
But you know, geez a sense my targo getting their
drink of water. Actually it seems to be when never
see I think gainst ten Mills, the rest of the
can who's given something to twenty been an interesting season,
that's for sure. But yeah, grass growth is picking up

(03:05):
and we're feeding out a fee bit at the moment.
We sort of open size stick on Christmas Day, thinking,
O ten days, we'll close it after the accumulation of
close to sixty mils over that week leading up for Christmas.
But it's sort of just greened the plate up and
we only really started growing, you know, really started growing
grass the last three days. With the follow up, brain, is.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
It a common occurrence for you to be feeding out
at this time of year.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, canba yep, yep, you know you always you get
the Christmas is always a dry period leading up to Christmas.
You know, if we ever made hay, it's always been
normally able to get a December, to be honest, if
you're knocking around doing that, So Jerry, camme me a
wit month, normly, can't it? So yet back on having

(03:50):
to feed out in December's pretty normal South.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
So milk flowing the likes, has it been affected?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Milk's not too bad.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Look, we took a wee bit of a check around
that cold front that it came through after the storm
that took all the trees out and cut pair back
in October November. That that cold week sort of just
the cares of cranking really well, and just ever since
that week, I sort of they just sort of stepped

(04:20):
off down to what they were sort of doing the
previous year. So the our milk flows, you know, not complaining,
they're still taking away pretty well. So Yeah, things are
tread along reasonably to plan interesting getting in calves, that's
the main thing.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
And a pleasant surprise last week with the GDT backing
the trend. I think of what the previous eight auctions
were a six point three percent rise. Whole milk powder
are going up seven point two percent.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, look, doom and gloom talk from the travels last
twelve months, I've seen so many other avenues that for deering,
other than just running, just keep reducing until until it
becomes a problem of seeing subsidies been did in the UK.
In Europe we're seeing beef as an alternative. So a

(05:07):
file was a US or European farmer, I'd be thinking
twice about putting replacement heath a semen into my cares
when you get one thousand dollars US for for d
old angus cross calf. So my I was sort of
always an opinion that overseas are yet quicker than New
Zealand A because our dollars were keepting us. We do

(05:28):
plan a different market. We're not fresh milk. We are
quite a different market, you know. I haven't quite had
the answer in relation to a Fontier. Is a big
shift to the ingredients market like open country plays and
what does it now mean for New Zealand around when
the world is too much fresh milk sloshing around?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
What is it? Where does that fit.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
We's a pinch point and so in the cost of production,
you know, the cost of productions competed to New Zealand.
It's been climbing overseas recently. I would have said three
years ago in New Zealand was an expensive place to
make milk. Looking at what's happening now and the constraints
around resources like we struggle looking using on around labor

(06:05):
and such like, it's no different overseas and they're having
to write a big checks and stuff to work on farms.
So nobody wants to handle chicken shit, big shirt or
care ship these days as an employee. They want to
drive track to the GPS. Saw that in every single
place I went to. So no, I think opportunities for
young people to get into deering globally are still there

(06:27):
because it's just people willing to work in that space.
So no, I'm not surprised to see it left. Well,
we'll see what happens with the Yeah, I guess from
now on it's going to be a bit of a decider.
But having a dip before Christmas is probably to benefit
of the thought send signals to the market straight away
that there's too much milk. So hopefully in the spring.

(06:49):
We don't see a big tap turning on in the
normal hempstead.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Interesting that talk about the fecal terminology there, john O.
But what are you referring to in general regard to
young people in technology that they're just not prepared to
roll their hands the sleeves up as in previous generations.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Perhaps Is it that or is it just societies are
so comfortable these days that when they start doing it tough,
there's still some luxuries in their lives. And you know,
I'm not saying that's just for young people, as even
the owners and the businesses aren't willing to adjust that.
I don't think there's been enough pain go through to

(07:25):
make people really assess what they're trying to where they're
heading for their business, to be honest. You know, you
see grain growers still buying machinery, and Jesus, that whole
machinery discussion is just blowing up in the last twenty
four months. It just keeps climbing the price of replacing
gear and price of inputs. And you know, when I

(07:48):
look at a lot of these grain outfits overseas, I
just don't understand why they're integrating poultry or walk into
their system and having more parstircular system on farm and
protein is only going to head one way again, is
my belief. The yearn is such like are realizing that
animals are required for food security for the world because

(08:09):
they are batteries. As far as they can crank production,
you can store it your great crop, so you've got
to have it off at a certain point, you know,
much shorter shelf life and such like, so as far
as in the paddock. So I just think I don't
think it's just about young people. I think it's about
NAG sector in general.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Based on that your years enough fields scholar has been
in gone. What's the biggest takeaways you'll get, what's the
biggest things you've learned from? Keepy perspective, I suppose.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I think New Zealand is no different anywhere else in
the world. I think I guess where I'm.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
At at the moment.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
I think he's your eggs A little bit like the
All Blacks. We've gone overseas, we've shown anyone else how
to do it, and probably not just making sure we're
keeping going forward ourselves and some of that development. And
now we've got other countries that certainly can challenge us
around efficiencies and performance. I think New Zealand's sort of
got to bring back a bit more of the underdog

(09:15):
attitude rather than the look at us where the best
that's us saying to be the vehtoric coming out of
central government and the farming sector, which I don't think
there does anyone any favors around challenging having constructive discussions
to improve it for the next generation. I think that's
probably the biggest piece we're missing, and that's Yeah. I

(09:37):
guess you could probably correlate a lot to what's happening
with all Black's last four or five years, and yeah,
I think we just need to be a bit more
focused on outcomes and not doubling up resources. We can't
afford what the EU can, so what would we do.
We're going to be smart, and I just wonder if
we need more cohesiveness around funding for science research to

(10:00):
be more than one place rather than scattered across different sectors,
and then politics being how to leverage off that. I
just think we need to to keep me off think
my Knufield's going to have me looking more at how
do we have more focus on outcomes and reacting at
the speed we need to to meet markets, the environment

(10:21):
and let the science decide how that operates rather than
the politics designing.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Just quickly to wrap up National Lamb Day happening Southern
Field Days at way mom next February or next month,
I should say, So that's coming around quickly?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, it is this year a bit more organized. We've
got FMG and Rather Bank back on board supporting us,
which is fantastic to have this relationship building around funding
because it's allowing us to be far more organized each year.
This is a bit of a repeat of last year,
bit of a rinse and repeat thing that last year
was on a Saturday, the fifteenth of February. This year

(10:55):
it's on a Sunday, Southern Field Days once again in
helping promote the day, which is fantastics on the Friday thirteenth.
As long as that celebration's happening and that's what's been
consumed on the day, I think it's a real big
sercuse for the land if I can carry that much
broader message for the holdings you on to celebrate good.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Only Johnny leave it. They always appreciate your time. Thanks Andy,
John Pimbledon of Meansi's theory and the Sergeant N Farming
ground up Peace are Sergeant N's stock foods based here
and Gore Jeff Grand is up next. This is the Master.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Darling.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Tell me what, ever, tell me what?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Welcome back. This is the muster on Hockanui. Jeff Grant,
business owner, farmer as well and former rempeat joins us,
amongst other portfolios at his head over the years. Joins
us once again in the political round at this Monday afternoon.
Jeff and welcome to the new yet.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
Thanks Sandy, and welcome to you and the listeners. It's
nice to see the son out in twenty six hey.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Straight off the bet as well, the passing of Sir
Tim Shedbolt. It didn't matter where you lived, almost in Australasia,
for that matter, but everybody knew who the mirror him
for Cargo was.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
For quite a while well, without any doubt at all.
Tim was a legend in the sense that he put
in Icago on the map. He said he would when
he first stood as a quite a young flight as mayor,
and he made a huge contribution to local government over
those years. But more especially I think nobody could deny
the passion and enthusiasm he had for the role and

(12:43):
as well, you know, he was a person that in
a public persona always bought jewelry. And that was probably
the thing that I recognized the most in the years
that I had the opportunity and privilege to work with him,
was that he could put the smile on people's faces and.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
The passion and the unbridled joy that he shared for
not only in the Cargo, but for Southland. It was
there was nobody, especially back in the mid nineties in
a political scenario, who had even come close.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Yeah, and the lovely thing I liked about Jim was
you knew you never left the room wondering what he
was thinking. You know, he was always a boisterous enthusiast
and somebody who had the tenacity to read the room
pretty good and always had that capacity to argue for

(13:35):
different ways of doing things, looking at things in a
different way. And I think that that was his major
contribution over the years. Look, he would he was like
all of this, he had faults, but the reality was
if you look at the long term and overall contribution,
it was a mark on him. The cargole that we
won't forget for decades rest in peace.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Sir Tim Shearer bolt that his election year the Coalition
thinking they need to get a few things right if
they want to stay in government.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
I think this is going to be the toughest year
and it probably always is an auction, but for the
Coalition in the sense that there's a lot promised to
be done, and you know, things like the I REMA reform,
while announced prior to Christmas, these major policy issues that
need to be betted down. But I think in the
the reality is people will be wondering where they're economics

(14:28):
look like for them, and that's good old back pocket
politics in the sense that if people are feeling like
the country is on the way up, that'll be a
positive for the Coalition. But if they are still feeling like,
you know, as we get to the end of twenty six,
that we're in the still in the recession or the
things that are not moving, it's going to be tough.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Are you pretty positive that we're going to see a
lot of economic recovery this year?

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Look, we Central Tag has definitely noticed it, and even
parts of Southland in terms of the tourist industry. But
most of this is written on the back of international tourists.
You know, domestically, people are still making that decision to
have five day holiday rather than a ten day holiday.
I think that people are still waiting to come out

(15:16):
of their mortgage rates at a lower aspect from where
they were two years ago, and so you know, there's
not the cash around. I think provinces like Southland and
the Tagore probably benefiting hugely by the commodity prices across
all of the sectors and that shielded us a bit.

(15:37):
But look, the cities like christ Us, Wellington and Auckland
are still struggling.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
What would be your one piece of advice to Prime
Minister Lucks in an election year, given that the vote
between the right is more or less going to be
spread between acts New Zealand. First, it seems a national.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Appreecially, I think you have to take your hat off
to that. Here's a three way coalition that looks like
it's going to last the term. So that's a reasonably
good positive because that's the first I think the second
part of it is that you have to make sure
as the leading party that you put a stamp on

(16:13):
what the National Party is going to do in government,
because you've got to be careful that you don't lead
into the election looking like the tailsman wagged by the
two minor parties. And that's going to be the hard part.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Changes to the Alliance Group chief executive Willi Visa is
stepping down from the role. Been an under easing twelve
months for Alliance overall.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
Yes, and look, you know Willie made a huge contribution
in the three years that he was the chief executive
and trying to turn the company around. Well, I don't
agree with the sort of outcome in terms of the sale.
The reality has don me is probably the best option
they had in front of them. I think that Willy
has without any doubt, can leave knowing that he had

(17:02):
stayed with the company and what he re formed you
may call it, but this is an indication of door
Meat's really going to start to ramp up in terms
of their ownership.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, that seems to be what I'm hearing around the traps.
What's happened has happened with the Lions. Now it's a
matter of just getting on with it and doing farming.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
Absolutely, and you know they've got to get they've got
to get back to the supply they had probably four
years four or five years ago. They've got to make
sure they get confidence within farmers to supply them. And
that's that's, you know, that's the hard job in front
of them.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Now. International unrest hangs over twenty twenty six US President
Donald Trump doing what he's done with Venezuela. This question
marks as well regarding Colombia, Greenland as well, which Denmark
has none too impressed about, as well as the rest
of the EU and Iran for goodness sake, over the
past couple of days. So as Bill Laurie used to say,

(17:56):
it's all happening.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
Look, I think we thought twenty five was originally unsettled
in terms of that international politics. And look this. You know,
we're a trading nation. We export seventy percent of what
we produce, and manufacturer and it and all those sort
of things, highly reliant on the tourist numbers, and so
we are impacted hugely by this international prospect. I think

(18:22):
New zeantourism ironically is benefiting as a place that's safe
to come and visit. I get the impression that a
lot of Kiwis and Austrains are avoiding going through the
US if they're transiting somewhere, so I think we're going
to see quite a bit of this. It's the uncertainty
that creates the difficulty and so on that basis, I think,

(18:45):
you know, both from commodity prices through to how people
are feeling, twenty six is going to be tough.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Do you see any positive ZI regatting this US stance
that can help in New Zealand?

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Look, I think increasing we are probably still a bit
of a favored nation, and you know we're seeing that
in a reduction of the tariff originally proposed across across
the sectors. I think they had our capacity to export
into the U S. We find but you know, you
just need to get you know, Little East is becoming

(19:19):
a for the meat industries as an example, is a
reasonably reliant market. With the decline in China, and so
any well it might be an Iran, it does fielder
across the border, and that unsettling situation that could arise
in Iran will have some impact. I think that Europe

(19:39):
still feels very unsettled with the US in terms of
their relationship from NATO through to Ukraine, and so those
things will keep bubbling along, which just just creates that
nervousness people don't buy forward in terms of wholesaling for
product to the extent they would have done three or
four years ago. So you just continue to hear that.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah. Just finally as well, Jiff, forget your comment regarding
these beef tariffs. New Zealand has avoided them, China's implemented
them on Australia and the likes, So that makes for
interesting reading.

Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yeah, Look, without any doubt, you know all the good
we don't played prognerfy is some years ago, especially in
terms of getting a pre trade agreement with China, but
also just a international relationship across all range of countries.
This is this is when it's in good stead for us.
You know, we seem to be able to hold the line.

(20:32):
And on that basis, we're seen there is not a
country because of our size as much as anything, but
we're not somebody that's going to up set the international water.
So that for that reason, I think that helps us
tremendously and make it long continue.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Jeff Grant, always appreciate your time on the Muster Happy
Landscaping this afternoon.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Caul, and you thinks.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Jeff Grant and Political round up, you're listening to the
muster on Hakanui before the end of the year, Andrew
Walsh the Twin Farm Genetics logan severy of the Southern Tribute.
But next Ben Dowey, I.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
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Council working together for a Beta Southland.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
No Jordan Luck and the Exponents. Why does Love Do
This to Me? From nineteen ninety one. The album was
entitled something, beginning with see you're listening to the muster,
We're away down to Windham to catch up with Sheep
Beef and YouTube farmer Ben Dooley. This afternoon, Dills Seasons, Greetings,
Happy New Year. I don't know how long you say

(21:41):
that for us, say that every time whenever I come
back on here starting off a new season. But nonetheless
here we are.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yeah, new season, so we've better say it. Happy New Years.
Everybody tell you what though good inter at song. I
could turn around and say, I don't know what is farming?
Do this to me? Supposed to be a lay to
Green Boo Bay about an hour ago, but we're still
here pecking and doing other stuff because we just couldn't
get away off farm just yet. But that is farming.
I guess isn't it.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Now You hit us Glenn du Bay for a good
week stunt at this time of year normally, so it's
no different this year obviously.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yeah, no, that's right. We're up up today till the
twenty third, so eleven days good we stint, just a
big push to get everything done beforehand, and as usual,
doesn't matter what you do to try and make things
a bit easier getting away, you always find more that
needs to be done. So we're on top of stuff now.
All the farm work has done as of about fifteen

(22:33):
minutes ago, and yeah, we will be on the road shortly.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
So it's been the major focus over the past couple
of the weeks.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
We had a bit of a shift around this year.
We shifted our waning of our terminals. Still did the
maternals in mid December, but shifted the terminals to the
fourth of January just because the fifth was the first
day of the works were open, and that actually yielded
really good results. Normally would get away from that mob
d twelve hundred lambs would get fifty to one hundred

(23:02):
away at sixteen kilos, and we got two hundred and
fifty three. I think it was at eighteen point two,
so definitely worth doing. When you work out the extra
growth roat over the twenty five days, it added up
to a notable amound. Extra just means a few of
theous meals to feed a bit more money in the bank,
and yeah, just put a bit of pressure on us.

(23:26):
We obviously didn't have to wean them in December, but
we did twice to get them crutched and shorn, and
then put them back on Monday next day. Obviously all
that day. But yeah, definitely worth what we're doing. But
just meant we're a bit more under the pump and
then lambs are crutched, everything's drenched. Yeah, we're all pretty
up to date. But yes, the old body's certainly starting

(23:46):
to feel it right now. So quite looking forward to
ten days sitting on the beachicalen.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Do it's sitting on that beach would be a lot
easier knowing that the lamb schedule is not going to
fall down on a big harry either, by the sounds
of it.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Oh, don't say that. Murphy's listening.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
No, well, it'll be a bit more pragmatic about the situation. Possibly, yes,
but what indicators do you see to suggest otherwise.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
No, it's looking very promising out there. No, absolutely, just year.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Like I said, Murphy's well know, Murphy's a little bugger.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
But yeah, no, things are looking really good and we're
that far through now. Even if it does start falling,
it shouldn't fall very much. Fingers crossed, hopefully there's plenty
of ambs been killed. It sounds like the product is
selling pretty well. Yes, so all in all, it's about
as positive as it could be in that space. It's
really good. And tell you what, how good is farming

(24:35):
with that financial pressure just lifted off your shoulders?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
So how are your feed covers looking at the moment?
I understand certain parts of the region are looking for rain,
while others it's a total opposite.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, we were looking for rain. I mean we certainly
weren't desperate. We weren't running out of feed or anything.
But the ground was pretty hard. But the last sort
of three days of bought in thirty two mills, thirty
six meals. Sorry, yeah, there was another way for meals. Yeah,
so that's nice. That's a good week kicking the pants there.
And there was big ones yesterday but they didn't dry

(25:06):
things at real bad. So no, that was a good
wee freshen up air. Grasscover situation is pretty good. We
got that grass seed in the ground as early as
we could, which wasn't actually very early this year. But
it's all online now. Well, there's still two and a
half hectares. It only went in seven or eight days ago.
But the rest of it, the other eighteen hectores is
absolutely cranking. The two tis something out there. They're on

(25:28):
the second time round, and that is just you know
what young grass is like. When it gets going, it
just means that the pressure goes off the rest of
the farm. So yeah, No, grasscovers are good. Everything's in
pretty good nation. There's no big number of light used
or rat big lands running around. Kettle are doing well.
Crops are all pretty much all full kenopy. There's a

(25:49):
few hollows and stuff where they're just to weave a light,
but they all take time to close in. Yeah, So
things are looking in all fairness at the moment, about
as good as they could be.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Fly strike dells is it a problem at the moment.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
It hasn't been so far. Touch wood just genuinely touching wood. Yeah, No,
the crutches of the lambs. There was six or seven
in there that just had a wee bit in the daggs,
and there was a couple that were bad enough that
had been treated, but they're all crutched up now, so
that seems to be not an issue there. The two
so or hoggits as they were at the time, was
shorn either ended November or start of December, so you know,

(26:26):
if they were done mid October, I'll be worried about
flying them now. But they just don't have enough fall
on them at the moment hopefully to be getting that yet.
And the user all shawn too, So nothing there but
the guys around with willy use and with uncrutched lambs.
I am hearing a few reports that flour strikers certainly
rearing it's thing of the head. Seems at the moment
to be the ones in the DAGs or on the bums,

(26:48):
not that horrible thing that strikes up in the shoulder,
but no doubt it will come. Yeah, So just something
to keep an eye out for as wall gets a
bit longer, and yeah, I guess as those lambs get
a little bit dirty again.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
And just finally you want to give a shout out
to Fish and Game, which certainly goes against the narrative
of the previous eighteen months.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Yep. No, they've been issuing permits this year to actually
controlled ducks, which is amazing. On breast crops or on
crops emerging crops. We certainly haven't taken out any big numbers.
I think I've got rid of five is all I've done.
Just leave the carcasses and the paddocks and the hawks
and stuff tend to keep the rest of the birds away.
But no, I just just wanted to say thanks to

(27:28):
them for doing that, because it's been a massive problem
in years gone by, and this year with the ability
to go out and next to controlled ducks, we're not
taking out big numbers, but just being able to go out.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
And do it.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Has just made life so much easier. So just wanted
to say thanks to them for making that happen. And
if you do need a permit to control some ducks,
just just get a hold of Soelf and Fishing Game
and talk to them. They seem to be pretty good
about it.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Now, when you say control ducks, you think of the
obvious as far as eradication, Would I be correct in
that thinking.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, no, you're allowed to use a shotgun to
actually shoot them if need be not. They don't want
us taken out big numbers, and I can appreciate that.
I guess the argument there is that you don't need
to take out big numbers to actually achieve anything. But yeah,
lethal control.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Good on your deals. Let you carry on your way.
All the best up in Glennie by not all the best,
go there and relax and have a couple of quiet
ones and we'll catch up in due course. So I
appreciate your time.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
No, we certainly will. Andy, we'll catch you later on.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Ben Dooley. Yes, shout out the fish and game as well.
Regarding duck control at this time of year, certainly a
problem for a lot of people. Legan Sevri is up
next to the South and Tribune and we'll talk a
bit of cracket, but also we'll talk about the passing
of the late Sir Tim Shedbolt.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
It's been bugging me.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Recognize this is the muster Lagan Sabri of the South
and Tribune joins us as Aften said, good afternoon and
work into twenty twenty six, and it started off on
a rather sad night with the passing of Sir Tim
Shampot last week.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
Absolutely a real end of the era there. And yeah,
I mean I was just I was actually just thinking
about this earlier. You know, I was I was a
kid of the eighties, early nineties sort of of un
the Cargo, and so I was about twelve years old
when Sir Tim got first got elected in the Cargo mayor,

(29:29):
and I was in my forties when he when he
finished up. So that just puts into perspective with the
longevity that he had an um of the cargole, but
not just not just a massive personality of un the Cargo,
but nation wildwide. And I think what was seeing in
the last few days since the announcement of his death,
you know, the amount of attributes and stories and whatnot,

(29:54):
that the flood right throughout the country. It's not surprising,
but it's certainly significant. YEA a massive time, just the
length of era. Not just have enthusiasm for that roles
in theagal, but to keep getting re elected all that time,
he did pretty well to hang in there.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, And Jeff Grant made the observation before that whenever
you've seen Tim in public, it was always a face
of happiness and always out there and just prepared to
be Tim.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, I was thinking.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
When I was in my twenties, we used to have
a Christmas Eve bowls tournament of all things, and it
was basically, to be honest, a bit of a glorifier
Peru guys, guys that were back in the mcago for
the back were back in South for the for Christmas,
would catch up and one of the guys invited me
and Tim to come along one yeah, and he showed

(30:50):
up and I got photos and when he was leaving,
I remember told me the guy said, if he's agreeing,
you know, it was a request through the mirror office.
If he good shot, if he's agreed to come to this,
then what is he turning down? He must have been
a very busy, busy man.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
And that was that was his.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
Strength, with mere his ability to get out there in
the public, shake hands and met the meet the people,
and bed the face of the of the city.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Basically, now you've had a win over the past month
or so, the vaults are now just the vaults, no
otago and there it's like the Highlanders just being the Highlanders.
They got rid of the name of course yourself and
Jacob Duffy, who is doing great things in the wak
Caps at the moment, you've been behind in this push.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
It was a pleasant surprise when we got that was
just before Christmas at the start of the Tea twenty
comp that that the Itaga Cricket Association decided to drop
the Tago tag for the Vaults team for the just
the to Tea twenty competition. Obviously the big thing and
you know, Jacob Duffy's probably been the real big pusher
of it being a proud South and there is that

(31:58):
the Targo name doesn't really reflect the region that they represent.
You know, you mentioned the Highlanders they were once the
target Hollanders, recognized that that probably wasn't reflective of the region.
So now now just the Highlanders and to the Vaults
for the twenty twenty compass gone down that track as well.

(32:18):
You know, I think talking to Jacob about the other day,
he was pleased. But you know, I would probably prefer,
like you know that the wholes maybe the Southern Vaults,
Southern gets included in there as well as like the
Targo age group teams you know, at the moment of
for South and then makes that next level they go
and play for the target under nine teams of under seventeens,

(32:40):
and you know, again.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Is that reflective?

Speaker 7 (32:43):
But anyway, it's a start, and well done for them
for acknowledging that. And I guess in February when they
come down here and play a one day game at
Queen's Park, people will probably need to get out and
support them because of that.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Well notoriously, and he's gone past. The game doesn't occurred
because of the love in the cargo weather.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I know.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
I've covered many of games at Queen's Park where it
felt like for two weeks leading up in this beautiful
weather and then the game arrived and it absolutely pisses
down and all the players look at you go like
this all the time down here, and you sort of
try and make the catch and it's not But yeah,
the drainage is a little bit better at Queen's Park now,

(33:23):
so that sort of helps them.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Weep.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
But if his rain used to be the problem, if
it were rain the day before, it was almost toast
for the next day. But yeah, so there's there's a
chance in February for people to get along and have
a lot now.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Jacob Duffer, we talked about the Great Man before he's
away over to India. Surely he's over there for a
few months as well, not just with the Black Caps,
but with this OPL contract he's got.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
Yeah, that's right, he's got it. Just felt like it's
been absolutely endless for him in two thousand, what was
endless for him in twenty twenty five with amount of
cricket he's paid for twenty twenty six is shaping up
is a really big year. As you mentioned, you know,
he hit over. He's playing for the Vaults today Undernead
and you'll play another game I believe, for the Vaults

(34:07):
and then head over for the twenty twenty series leading
into the twenty twenty World Cup in India, and you'll
come back for a weave it and then as you said,
head back to playing the IPL as well in India,
and then there's a Test series against England and June,
I believe.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
So he's got a real busy.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
Time coming up. I hear he's a big fan of
butter chicken, so so he might be getting a bit
of that put it out over the next few months.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Well, Shane Warren infantsly lives on baked beans for nine weeks.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
Over there, didn't he cut a crat of it over
or something.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah he did. He had a pellet of stuff carted
over there apparently. But look, we talk about next summer
or again already and there's a lack of red bull
cracking in the Black Caps until that English series in June.
But the Bakerhona is on the horizon at the end
of the year, the big Carrot as such, we're going
to Ossie for four Tests. We need we have a
point of difference, so we need to get a fast
bowler in the willow rourk needs to stay fit.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
Well that's right, Yeah, well for once we need to
well for a start, we need to get one of
those quicks that ability to be able to be durable
and play test up to test and some big loads
like it's not you know, it's not just having a
fast bowler, but someone that can do you can roll
out fifteen to twenty overs a day at that pace
and it's not easy. They're not easy to come by.

(35:27):
But I really think that if we're a New Zealand crickets,
certainly anything you know, we've got a twenty twenty World Cup,
we've got a Test series in England and they're all important,
but I think they're real big one is this series
in Australia because we need to go over there and
perform really well and beyond the Australia sites in the
future to have regular prime time Test series against New Zealand.

(35:51):
So a really messive series learning and a big year
for that. So I mean, I think there'll be a
big key week contingent heading over the Boxing day Test
in Melbourne.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I'd imagine now basball or Booze Ball, depending on who
you speak to, telling you everything you do not to
win an Nozzy.

Speaker 7 (36:08):
Yeah, that's that was a really disappointing series and some
of the stuff that's coming out since it's a little
bit alarming and probably stemming back from there. There that
one day series where we blitz and three now over
here and things were traveling that well right from that
point and haven't right through and through the series. And

(36:31):
what happens. I guess when you don't perform on the
field a lot of times there's added spotlight comes after
what you're doing off off the field, and that seems
to there is what's happening with the cricket team that
there's been a favorit of scrutiny going is. But whether
they've given them themselves the best possible chance to be
successful in.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Australia, certainly time will tell them that. One say, hey,
keep out the great job of the South and Trivia
and we'll talk again.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
Big tapes to Andy me.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Wagon Savy of the South mand Tribune. And you're listening
to the muster on Haka Nui before we wrap up.
Andrew welsh and a Twin Farm Genetics, the home of
tef from this is the muster on Haka Nui. Andrew

(37:28):
welsh Ore Twin Farm Genetics, a home of Tiff from
sponsors of the five day Forecast here on Hakanuey Radio
joins us once again. Snow, good afternoon and welcome to
the new year.

Speaker 8 (37:39):
Yeah, afternoon, the same to you. Andy. It's a bit
of a breezy afternoon out here in the Ymere Valley
again sort of rain's been threatening around but not really
coming to much as of you.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, we were talking before, just briefly about the situation
around the weather. So where you're based there at the
Wymere Valley, you're after a good drop.

Speaker 8 (37:58):
Yeah, we're sort of just a wee eye slated pocket
there we're still nice and green, but there's just not
the bulk of feed you sort of. Yeah, the old
lambs are getting to move around on a bit of scenery,
which they're doing really well on at this stage. But
it's a fine line between them, Yeah, running out of
that tucker in.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Front of them close to a green drought. Would you say.

Speaker 8 (38:17):
It's on that borderline. Yeah, Like we're probably for a
normal January. We're probably about the right spot. It's just
that the lead in, yeah, into Christmas, we never had
that big flush of feed in November early December to
get any bailage or hay or anything like that made
for winter supplements. So that's just yeah, chewing away in
the back of your mind at the moment that that

(38:39):
could be an issue going forward if we do go
into a normal Yeah, January, February, March being drawer months, and.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
That's the case of the unknown. I suppose midway through
January snow as you look forward, like you just talked
about and just trying to figure out what you're going
to get for raid four might be few and far between,
or it might be totally different scenario. You're just trying
to farm to it.

Speaker 8 (38:59):
Right, Yeah, that's right, that's all you can do.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
Andy.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
Yeah, we look pretty closely at the weather forecast nowadays
that you get all excited. You look sort of three
or four days out and you see there might be
twenty mills coming. And yeah, at the moment it's just
been petering out and going around us. But that's part
of the joys of farming and one of the challenges
we look forward to. Stock are doing really well at
the moment. We've just finished doing a big week last
week on shearing lambs, so we've got all the feathers

(39:24):
off them now and this week we'll push on and
do a bit of drinching and they're all due for
their second five and one, so yeah, a few jobs
on the go.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Do you normally see your lambs around now?

Speaker 8 (39:36):
Yeah, we have for the last couple of years. We've
done it and it seems to work really well. Seem
to get a fine spell of weather now and they
recover really well. Push on and you get the premiums
at the works and that for having them sean now
they don't really want the wool on them there, so yeah,
it certainly pays for getting it off.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Did you crutch your lambs pre Christmas.

Speaker 8 (39:55):
No, No, we don't crutch anything. Or we did running
through and just caught out hand for dirty one before
they went up to the shears. They want to crutch
and coss there. The lambs are nice and clean that
this early stage. And yeah, they seem to keep them right.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
So the lambs are getting a weight to the works.
Are you're happy with your weights?

Speaker 8 (40:13):
Yeah, we've been averaging just over nineteen's at the moment.
We actually skim ween the hill. They killed twenty ones
off the hill and we put everything else strengths and
we put them back on mum. So it's Wednesday's job
is to get them all down and they're looking fantastic
as well. There hasn't been an abundance of feed, and
the hill's very short. It's just at that sweet stage.

(40:35):
I think that we might have just timed it perfect.
But we certainly need to start and unload some moles
because it's drawing off up there flat out at the moment.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, it's just like you say, the good weights to
go with good prices.

Speaker 8 (40:45):
Yes, exactly, And it's great to see the schedule busy holding. Yeah,
so I see lambs thought that teen eighty and mutton
actually went up before Christmas, which is pretty much unheard of.
I don't think I've ever seen mutton go up before Christmas.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I don't think we've ever seen prices like this for
stop though.

Speaker 8 (41:01):
No, that's right. But to be fear like we needed andy,
there's been some tough years out there for sheet and beef.
So yeah, these prices need to hang around for quite
a few years hopefully.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Well it's the on farm inflation, which is the kaker
I supposed know, and you just find over the next
couple of seasons a happy medium and these prices so
in just so we're not going to see mess of
fluctuations I suppose, yeah.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
Exactly, yep, but are certainly going forward.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
You know.

Speaker 8 (41:26):
It was actually having a discussion about some some grain
prices and things where that's going to sit next year,
and yeah, my theory is there expenses haven't come down,
so yeah, just I know, the dairy payout's looking a
little bit shaky, but their expenses haven't gone down, So
I certainly won't be signing anything that's under under the
last year's prices.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Have you got confidence in the great industry? Oh?

Speaker 8 (41:47):
Absolutely, yeah, it is. It is quite good. Andy, Yeah,
well for us, it's given us a bit of diversity
and needs their workload a bit and it is one
of those sort of you've got to be in the
right area to be able to grow it. Yeah, So
going forward, I think it should be quite good. But
that is a backup. I've got my sleeve, and in
the back of my mind, I'm thinking that we might

(42:07):
end up whole cropping some of the area that we're
going to harvest for balley, so we do have buffers
there and leavers that we can pull.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
So he's been sharing on the Gallander likes, what do
you find you're doing this afternoon? What's happening.

Speaker 8 (42:20):
We've just loaded out a loaded deer. I've gone out
as well, so yeah, I could have some of those
tidied up. Some of the stags that weren't performing, and
the older boys and the last handful of spikers that
we had on are all gone now, so it's freeing
us up because we're only two months away we'll be
looking at weaning the other fauns, bringing them down. So
need download a few.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Miles Venison's schedule holding true.

Speaker 8 (42:44):
Yes, yep, No, it's still looking pretty good at the moment. Too,
which is very good. It's only the velvet that hasn't
really performed. And I see all the velvet and sales
are going on at the moment, so I haven't followed
any of those yet to see how they've gone, but
that'll be interesting to see where they sit.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, pretty much. It's just the way velveting has been unfortunately,
as we've documented towards the end of last year. So
what's your primary focus seeing over the next three to
four weeks. Is it more or less about efficiency in
your lambs and getting the weights up?

Speaker 6 (43:11):
It is, yep.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
To push those lambs. Yeah, we're moving them around every
two days. Just keep them moving, keep them growing as
fast as we can, because obviously you have sort of
in the back of your mind, you've got dates that
you want to have certain numbers gone by, and the
weight's just an added bonus. So the more that we
can push now give us the be ability to either
push weights higher or get more lambs away earlier. So

(43:36):
that's the key, and that's why we put these other ones,
all the hill ones back on mum. It'll be interesting
to see how they go. They might not yield just
quite as good with mum's probably eased up for milking
ability by now. But they look fantastic and they'll be
heavier weights no matter what we do with them than
if we win them earlier.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, certainly a lot of positives going on in the
red meat set to snow. How we'll leave it there
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Speaker 8 (44:06):
How good as gold, Indy and you Hopefully everyone hit
a great breakaway over a new year.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
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(44:43):
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