August 11, 2026 • 43 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jeff Grant, Tom Shallard, Don Moore, Keely Buckingham and Hayden Byars.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hokanui Andy
nearly here until two o'clock. The show is brought to
you by Peters Genetics. Welcome along and hump day. On
a rather hectic hour in New Zealand politics. If you
haven't heard, has just come out in the last five
minutes or so that National Leader Christopher Luxen remains in
charge of a national party and as Prime minister. He
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had some very brief remarks his press confidence lasted all
of seventy six seconds and his statement was, there was
a confidence vote in my leadership this morning at our
caucus meeting. I had the full support of our caucus,
and our caucus is united and is determined to win
this election. And like said Erika Stanford, Christopher Bishop behind
him in a sign of solidarity. So how many times
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can you say caucus in the one sentence? But nonetheless
that is the go there from the beehive, normality resumes
kind of in the political world. Like you say, Christopher
Luxon remains leader of the National Party. Right, let's crack
into it changed today at Glenn Campbell.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Remembering this country.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Wednesday, Hoku's five day forecast with twin farm teff from
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Speaker 1 (01:16):
This afternoon, here we go, rain developing with breezy or
easteries and a high of twelve. Thursday reign developing with calm,
variable wins two and fifteen. Friday partly cloudy were like
northwestles five and thirteen. Saturday morning showers a bree sell
breezy sol west is zero and eight, and Sunday cloudy
with breezy westerlies four and nine.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So temper just a hand.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Clinton's seven point one, Harriet five point seven, Northern south
and five point five, Riverton seven point three to out
our six point six.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Todor row Is six point four one to four point five.
Got do you get to read that any faster?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And woodlands at saxophone chaos Like I say, anyway, we're
starting the show of Jeff krant I spoke to you
about twenty minutes ago just as this decision regarding christ
luxe and was made and just ramifications what it means
and the lead up to the election. Then Tom Shall,
out of Craig's Investment Partners, is on the program. Keeley
Buckingham of Derry in z Don mood dairy farming at Kennington,
(02:13):
A lot of calves on the ground, a lot of farms.
Don tells us how this place is faring. And in
studio Hayden Buyer's Coach of the South and hines there's
another season gets underway for the Heins. But yeah, crank
straight into it, like I say, if you haven't heard
breaking news. Christopher Luxon remains leader of the National Party.
Up next, Jeff Grant.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I've been walking the street.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Jeff Grant is a former National MP and joins us
this afternoon with everything happening up at the Bee Hive
for the wrong reasons for the National Party. Jeff, good, afternoon.
We've recorded this probably about twelve thirty, so we're just
waiting for an announcement which is imminent. Look, you've been
there and done that. What is this doing to the
National Party brand?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Oh? This is not useful, you know, eighty nine days
out from an election. If you look at the history
of local parties and changed leadership, they've been through occasions.
I think that's been successful. Which notice there have been
a lot of dead bodies otherwise. So for that reason,
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I think that'll be why the course is taken so long,
because this is really, in comparison to four weeks ago,
this is much more dangerous territory in terms of surviving
through the election, and it won't be just a matter
whether you keep the current leader and change, or more
importantly is how do you deal with the next eighty
nine days.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And that's the thing I suppose. I mean, these voices
of discontent within the party continue to be heard considering
the coalition government looks odds on to continue, so all
can't be well.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
No, I you know, when you think about the reality
of probably the events of the last three weeks, you look,
we will make mistakes, and I don't think any of
them were material. Yes, they went good sort of situations
suddenly decide we're going to have an MP, butte that
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we're going to introduce dectives and course, this you know,
makes you question sort of the leadership style this has built.
This has been building for us some time and so
whatever they choose to do is still going to make
it very difficult.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And that's the issue.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I suppose with all this discontent going on, I mean,
a flax and continues on. He's got to be assertive
of his action regarding those who are showing all this frustration,
I suppose yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Look, I think the little body seems to struggle on
is the difference between governance and being a chief executive
and not all chief executives transition into a governance role
particularly well. And governance requires leadership that requires you having
all your team on your side, and when you've got
half your team not on your side, it doesn't matter
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what you do, you're never going to pull it together.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Now, as far as the rural lends, one thing.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
About Christopher election Christopher Luxon is he has been good
for the rural sector. Should will we be concerned of,
say Eric Stanford and Chris Bishop perhaps gets the top job?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What does that mean for real?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Well, look, without any doubt the MP has been putting
quite a focus not just on the National Party but
across all the political parties around the rural scene. And
that's because it's an important part of the economy and
has shine through since covid onwards. I think that the
PM has in my view, been quite passionate about the
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rural sector, which you haven't always seen in the leader
of a political And if you shifted to an irven
drift sort of mentality with somebody else, then it does
put some risk. But I think without any any doubt
at all, the current PM has been a strong supporter
of the head culture sector.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I suppose a concerned anything though from the outside of
looking in. Was Christopher Luxen's comment last week on ZIB
talking at reform regarding MMP when he hadn't consulted.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
As caucus saw his party.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's pretty that's pretty disturbing or concerning would be a
better word.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Well, that that tells you somebody operating in a CEO
on a governance leadership role, because if you had, if
you had really good understanding around that whole governance leadership role,
you would know that whenever you say something publicly that
you have your team fully supportive. And the only way
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to find out things fully supportive is to have discussed
it through a caucus or kidnet process prior to announcing.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Joseph Mooney Now, when approached by reporters earlier on, you
see they'd rather be in this electric electorate where a
major central local government deal is expected to be signed
with today that he's had a lot of skin in
the game with didn't actually give a support behind the
Prime minister.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Do we read much under that?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Oh, look at asking MPs as they're walking through an
airport concourse where they where they sit between on a
particular issue or a leadership role. I mean you ain't
even going to get the perfect answer. I think Joseph
said only two days ago that he was supportive of
the Prime minister, so I wouldn't read too much in it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
This won't affect the coalition government though, and the lead
up to the election as such. I mean they can
carry on the way they are currently.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Right, Yeah, absolutely. The coalition agreements are actually between the parties,
not between the leaders So if you had to change
the leadership and one of the coalition partners parties, that
doesn't change the coalition agreement. They still stand through to
an election day and unless the party decides to pull
it out.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now you're a national party chief whip for a term
in the nineties, just described the role and like the
pressure that the Whits will be under today.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Well, I had a challenge around the deputy leagues count riches.
Without any doubt you always go through this bit of
a process. The chief whip requirement is the primary part
of his role is always to keep the end of
the party informed, you know, every twenty four hours. In
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terms of these process the chief Whip wouldn't take a position.
The chief Whip should just be the communicator or the
messenger on behalf of the caucus to the Prime Minister
or the leader of the party and just making sure
factually you're providing the right information and that the leader
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is well aware of the position situation that it is.
When it comes to numbers, it tends to be driven
and in my time it was we removed Winston Peter's
from the party and that started by a range of
MP's writing Leader to the chief Whip and that started
a process. And so that's usually the communication line is
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for these sort of material matters is via the chief Whip.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Chris Hebkez hasn't really released a lot of policy, but
when you see what's going on on the other side
of the beehive, he probably doesn't have to at the moment.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
No.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Look, I you know, there's an old saying in politics.
You know, elections are about governments losing rather than oppositions winning.
And we look to a certain extent, we look like
we're on track for one of those so in an opposition,
you just hold your fire until you get a bit
of clear air and no point in releasing stuff while
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the other side's in a bit of turmoil. Look that
banner away. You will see it in the The polls
won't look good for the next four weeks, no matter
what the outcomers. You know, there's always this belief you
change the leader and you get a bump on the polls.
You might get a bump on the polls, it will
be very short term. People will come back to realization
around things like their income, their ability to feed the family,
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all those things, because you don't go away and they
have become the focus. As you get.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Good on you doff bee leave it there. Thanks for
your time and short notice.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yes it's nice.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Shut out on Jeff gard Fair.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I recorded that probably about twenty minutes ago, and of
course we found out since Christopher Luxon has indeed held
on to the leadership of the National Party and remains
Prime Minister.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Tom Shallard's up next.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
The Muster financial segment with Craig's investment partners in Gore.
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Speaker 1 (11:07):
Tom shell Out of Craig's Investment Partners Joints, is in
studio once again.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Andy. We're getting through the wind,
aren't where? It's starting to starting to feel a bit brighter.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, it is, and you'd like to think so for
the middle of August, and arguably there could still be
a sting in the tail. We won't talk about that today,
but you know, you've got a bit of blue sky
around over the last couple of days, and you just
look for the positives.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
It's probably been pretty pretty good to us so far.
So let's hope that rolls through to September.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
No lambs on the shell up farm yet, No, not.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Yet, Andy, Hopefully the month away.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, that's the way you want it.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Artificial intelligence, how is the story evolving?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, it's a hell of.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
A statement for a start, because straight off the cuff
you just say it's going everywhere.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Here's definitely the pace of changes as rapid artificial eligence
remains one of the dominant themes dominant investment themes globally,
so the Emerging Markets INDEXES is interestingly outperforming many developed
markets here today. That's that that component of that is
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China and South Korea, and they produce a lot of
a lot of semiconductors which have driven markets over the
last year. But a lot of attention has focused on
companies building data centers, as I said, manufacturing semiconductors and
cloud infrastructure. But we think the next phase potentially looks
quite different. So historically, major technological revolutions don't just create
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one investment case, and we're sort of started to see
that that broadened in the market now. They tend to
create waves of opportunities and early winners you know, often
the infrastructure builders, but letter winners tend to be businesses
that successfully adopt the technology.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Is that what you're seeing with a in your line
of work? Is it that relevant? Yep, No, it is.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
It is changing a lot, not sort of something we
tend to use so much. But obviously the companies we
invest in a big adopters, and that's healthcare, innovation, biotechnology, robotics, automation,
and advanced manufacturing. So yeah, there are some parts of
I guess services businesses like product enhancing software which will
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ultimately lead to some form of efficiency gains and the
automation and tasks that humans will no longer need to do.
So yeah, the rate of change across probably all sectors
is very very fast.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What are some scenarios that it can do.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
For example, it's more what it can do to enterprises
and and honestly what will flow through to the bottom line.
So it's not going to necessarily replace people's jobs, but
it should make every unit of labor a lot more
efficient and.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
So effectively place jobs down the line potentially.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
But it should also make the human and control a
lot more efficient, so so every hour of their time
they can achieve more work. But yeah, ultimately you're already
seeing some degree of job cuts and through the likes
of the big banks in Australia. So yeah, that is
a reality commercial reality of AI. But we sort of
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more look at it broadly, and that's site AI solving
healthcare problems and you know, some automation and and advanced manufacturing.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
A big week, a big week of data ahead.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Yeah, look at here. There's there's several important events on
the calendar. So in the United States, inflation data, retail sales,
consumer confidence figures, we'll see all of them this week
and that'll shape or expectations for future federal reserve decisions.
Closer to home reserved being for Australia's releasing a monetary
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policy statement and the New Zealand. Investors continue to monitor
inflation expectations. We've got some manufacturing activity data this week
and net migration data which is always interesting. But yeah, overall,
the market appears increasingly comfortable with the current outlook. Economic
growth remains positive, and corporate earnings are well. They've generally
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exceeded expectations.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
The reporting season in the States I talked about this
David a couple of weeks ago hasn't been favorable yep.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
At technology into things, the corporate earnings have been phenomenal.
So yeah, earnings growth in large cap US tech has
grown by about twenty one percent a year on year.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
All these tech companies and phone companies, they're just going gangbusters.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yeah, tech tech tech generally, but it's not driven by
multiple expansions that it's not the company getting more expensive
to buy. It's driven by the increase in the underlying earnings.
So on a valuation basis that they're actually reasonably valued well,
whilst you know, the headline prices is more expensive than
a year ago.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Right you reckon, we need to take a long term
beyond things.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Yeah, So, as investors, it's pretty easy to be distracted
by the noise of day to day headlines. You know,
we think the last fourteen odd months we've had we've
had tariffs, we've had a war. You know, we've potentially
got higher inflation from increased energy costs, and there's always
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releases of different economic data. But the successful investors are
the ones that understand that that good outcomes don't don't
come from reacting to every headline. Markets will always face uncertainty,
but yeah, that's that's not something to fear. That's sort
of the price to pay for the opportunity to grow
grow wealth over time in the markets. Yes, I guess
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final message there, Andy, take take a long term view,
stay diversified, and you remember, success in markets really comes
from those who predict every twist and turn. It's it's
won by owning good assets at reasonable prices, businesses that
are going to consistently grow the runings over time and
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are supported by long term structural tails.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Question, how do markets react to inflammatory headlines at the moment.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Given what's going on around the world.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
The story of the last two years, Andy has been volatility,
so you do sort of see bigger intra d A
swings than we would have seen in the past. Trump
administrations tend to be headline driven markets and that's that's
holding true.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And you've only said Trump once in this whole interview.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I almost got through it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Craig's ip. You're in that nice new building, pretty warm
at the moment. I'd imagine where are you're located.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Calling to the office at one Street, Gore, or give
me a call on three two o nine.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Tom Shallard always good to catch up, Thanks Eddie.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Tom Shellard of Craig's Investment Partners based here in Gore.
Obviously new world. In that cozy little building they've got,
it's not little, actually nice and spacious. Go and see
the team as well. Regarding anything you want to know
regarding investment.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Don Moore's up next. There's stop falling by the way.
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Speaker 1 (18:38):
He has found Don Moore Farms at Kennington. He's part
of the Fonterra Shreholders Council. Don Good Afternoon. The song
is Southern Nights by Glenn Campbell. But the Southern days
at the moment are pretty busy. It sounds as though
you've got calves everywhere.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, things are pretty busy at the moment. Yeah, we're
probably caught out a little bit. It's we're already just
over twenty five percent in through carving, and I haven't
finished my window projects, so sort of trying to get
some of those ticked off in a couple of hours.
We get free in the afternoon and then and then
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we're back into the next day again. So yeah, it's
a busy.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Time, all right.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Is it chaos at the moment or are you coping?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Yeah, no, we're coping. It's it's organized chaos, I would
I would say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, I like that term. It covers a lot of bases.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just getting processes are coming into place now.
You know, we've got the milky mob and milk going
in the vat and the routines starting to settle in.
It's just that real busy time when you're getting a
lot of carves. You've got a big clossrum mob the
cowshed time as a lot, training heifers and calves coming
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out everywhere. So yeah, no, we're getting there. It's we
are getting We're keeping on top of it, we're keeping
ahead of it. But it's busy yep.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Training the heifers. How's that going on the platform?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Ah, yeah good, it's not so bad in the hearing bone.
We run them through a few times over winter and
and so, and then we bring our springers and so
they so by the time they get to milking, they've
they've been through the road up a few times already,
so that's not too much of a problem. It's just
you know, those cows, those heifers that want to kick
their cups off and things like that. But yeah, that's
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just that's that's carving. It happens every.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Year, so it's kind of like kids at a school play.
They go there and practice and practice. When it comes
to the main event, a few of them have the
opportunity to go about roguan.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
It does happen, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Yeah, Yeah, you get the occasional one, but most of
them are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So as far as you went too projects.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Remembering not long ago you move down to Kennington, what
do you still got to what are you working on
still as such?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Well, all sorts of things. We've got some heifer pins
that are half built. We've got heifers in them and
in the in the two bays that we've almost finished.
And then we're sort of trying to work ahead of ourselves.
And I probably got a bit carried away ripping out
things with the digger over winter, and I've still got
I've still got a few fences to build as well
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while we're while we're there, So I was out yesterday
for a couple of hours getting a fence prepped, and
today I'll go and bang in some posts and get
a lane finished. And yeah, getting power around the farm's
been a bit of an issue. Holt has been a
saving grace for that, but still they you know, you
still need power on those gates and things, and yeah,
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so we're working away at it. I had a good,
good good win yesterday around getting some power around some
more of the farm. So I'll get these, hopefully get
these other to this lane finished today in this afternoon maybe,
and they're all really help things.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
A digger can be a useful yet brutal tool in
the wrong hands.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Look, it's so enjoyable having the digger on farm and
making progress, but then you've got the job of sorting
everything out that you've done after the fact.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
As far as your feed levels, I mean, we've had
a few frosts recently, got cool last week.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Are you happy with your covers?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yeah, yeah, definitely we had some pretty sort of fantastic
winter growth and yeah, we had a bit of a
wit a week and but look, it's it's not been
real with You can still ride around most of the
farm on a two wheeler, which this time of the year,
that's that's that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, it's really good going for the time of year.
And it's the same old story. If you've got too
much tucker in there. There's still the opportunity of frost,
which I think might be forecast over the weekend just
to up the buds off as well.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Yeah yeah, and so yeah, I mean with all the grass,
you sort of you want a bit of a dry
spring that you can actually utilize. It can be a
bit of a challenge otherwise.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
But it's a great problem to have too much tucker.
You've got to be got to matte.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Oh, definitely, yeah, definitely, And we're we're probably oversupplied with
winter bayleage. I think we're definitely not going to finish
all of that, So that's a good thing. We'll we'll
push that through to the next winter.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So would you say it's been a softer winter than
last year if that's possible, will bear in mind you're.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
In a new farming position as well, new spot.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah, I think it has been. Yeah, if you if
you're wet in May, you've got a wet, wet, wet winter.
But we had a really good maid and in June here,
so that's that's helped out a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And of course the g d T last week there
was a slight rise in there which stopped that run
of falls that of seen over the past two or
three auctions before that. And it'll be interesting to see
where it ends up too.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
It certainly will be. And you know, sort of seeing
social media and things of what's happening overseas, there's there's
there seems to be a bit of pressure on milk
production overseas, and and I guess that might start to
play out and we might start to see that in
some of the GDT auctions over the next month or two.
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But yeah, that's something that only time will tell a two.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
People talking about late eight dollars these days for a
break even point, I think last season, just on the
average of what you heard around eight dollars forty eight
dollars fifty was that point. But that extra thirty cents
is quite a concern. If that is the case, are
you seeing that.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Well, I mean it's an interesting one. There's certainly some
amatted costs and things, but there's been you make sure
that you're sort of separate out some extra things that
people have done on farm, you know, and there's been
a lot of investment on farm and some of that,
you know, most of that, yes, that will go into
sort of capital, but some of it will get soaked
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into RNN expenses and increase your farm working expenses that
in that way. But it's a positive move and it's
a positive spend. So as long as they it's being
spent on the right things, then then that's okay.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
So that's how your view this season A hit. Everything's
looking pretty positive. To coin that B word.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah, I'm I'm, I'm I'm positive about how things are going,
you know, And obviously we've taken on a lot more
debt this year with the new farm, and but we're
still sitting pretty positive around what the future looks like
over the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Has it taken you a while to get used to
your new surroundings or you knew what was coming?
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Yeah, it's probably more on the social front, to be fair.
It's been interesting. It's got got its highs and its lows.
And you know, we miss all all of our friends
back and Gore and and you know, we catch up
with some of them occasionally, but you certainly don't see
them daily lot you used to. So that's been the
biggest change, you know, and saying for the kids at
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new school. But but in the cargo's got a lot
to offer and and the kids have been into sports
and things that they never had the opportunity to do,
so so that there's you know, there's some positives and negatives.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You haven't hear the big smoke traffic lights down there,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Oh and look, I was hoping to get out last
weekend and go for a fish even but no, the
way that carving's gone, that's sort of put the cord
wash on that pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, it sounds as though everything's happening at once time.
We'll be you carry on and good luck with the carving.
Sounds like you need it.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Of all these numbers will be good, but thank you
very much.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Done Moore farming at Kennington. Interesting those status he just
talked about. Then over a quarter of his herd already
popped out their calves, and you're hearing it in a
few places too.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So while it's like the end of his guns to
the gun.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Well, hopefully everybody gets through all right, because it is
a busy time of year.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's called carving. Right.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Kenny Backing is up next from darien Ze talking about carving.
Let's have a catch up.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
He's cool. Welcome back to the muster.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Keevy Buckingham joins us out of dairy en Z Keeley,
Good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Carving is around everywhere.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
It is it is. It seems like it's come on
suck and fast too for a few people, which is
good and bad. Right, keeps it over and done with quicker.
That certainly makes us some long days, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, the weather's with you. It's a good thing.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Yeah, totally. Yeah, and it has been relatively nice for
the most part so far.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, I think we do about fifteen degrees with something
ridiculous tomorrow. It seems like the tropics when you get
to those temperatures.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Yeah, I was gonna have to get the old pins
out for the sun like that.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well there you go.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Hey, talking today about ADLB CAF feeding A lot of
calves around and just thinking about all matters are growing.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Yeah, definitely, So the ad LIB system, I suppose it's
one that's come to be more and more popular for
the last few years as people get busier and you
know a lot of mums out there with kids and
toe as well, and twice a day feeding does get
quite busy. So ed lib is definitely one of those
things that is getting pretty hot out here. And so
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we're really fortunate that we've had a bit of insight
to this. Well, you know, our Animal Animals team up
in Hamilton and so there was a lot of chat
around ed lib feeding you know, out there online and stuff,
but not a lot that has been like researched in
New Zealand. And so that team before Carving started coming
(28:39):
together and have developed an ad LIB cart feeding guide. So, yeah,
that's been specifically designed for you know, the New Zealand system.
So that's super cool. That can be found online and
so I guess just some key messages to come out
of that if you haven't seen it and are going
to try EdLib once you get into the sick of
carving this year. There are just a few key things too, Yeah,
(29:04):
I guess make sure that you've got in mind. So
a few of the key points would be, you know,
keeping mobs between ten and twenty calves to and keeping
those groups consistent sized in the providing The other one
around the size is just providing one teat for every
three to five calves and making sure that yeah, they're
(29:27):
getting checked regularly daily, filling up of drums like from
like fresh milk every day rather than putting fresh milk
on top of old milk. There's another key one there,
and making sure that if you are going to be
doing the ad LIB system, to budget for higher milk
use and so cold milk might reduce bacteria bacterial growth
(29:51):
and the milk, but calves might drink more to compensate
for that. So yeah, and the other one just around
ed libbers doesn't it's not a satin forget system. So
we do still need to be making sure and you know,
I'm sure people don't just set in figet anyway, but
making sure that if you are going to try that system,
to make sure you're checking the calves individually and know
(30:13):
the signs of health and illness and so if you Yeah,
there's a guide that has been just released I think
it was in July, and so that can be found
on the darien Zied website around Yeah, it's just called
the ad lib Calf Feeding Guide and there and as well. Actually,
the other cool new resource that was released just before
carving started was the Calf Rearing Guide. And so that
(30:36):
calf Rearing Guide it covers everything from setting up calf pens,
calf sheds all the way through to you know, the
weaning stage and wait and stuff like that. So it's
a massive document, but definitely one I was just flicking
through it this morning and thinking, man, if I had
a new calf rearer on farm, then this would be
(30:59):
exactly what I'd be putting in front of them to
set them up. Well, you know, don't have to read
every chunk of it, you know, the whole thing from
start to finish right now, but as we move through
the phases, you know from colostteral management, I mean eventually
it weened. There's all different sections in there, so really
cool guide and.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
We're going to have a good spring here in the south.
Touch would But you're just looking at all the positives.
Nonetheless having a plan b if you need. It's something
to have in your mind.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Day.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Yeah, definitely. You know, we've still got a lot of
cows on crop, a lot of cows being in spring,
of peddocks on pasture, and it is it has been wet,
and so just making sure that if you have got cows,
you know, outside or potentially still on crop, that we
do need to be making sure if the weather forecast
(31:49):
is coming in bead that you do who a plan
be up your sleeve for taking cows off muddy peedicks,
muddy crop peedicks, giving another option if it's needing to
chat into the direction and once you're grazing, to avoid
wheat patches or where soils might be a bit heavier
than those type of things still need to be maintained.
(32:10):
I know it is tricky when you're in the depths
of carving to remember or to make time for that
type of thing. But still those cows, you know, have
got a heak of a season in front of them,
still in making sure that you know they're not succumbing
to any bad weather and making sure that they're still
(32:31):
being prioritized. Yeah, it is really important.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
You're in good website. I suppose a few more types
of people need them.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
Yes, definitely always on there, especially around that. You know,
it'll all be under the wintering tab or information section
on there around if it's with crop management. But yeah,
the green z website is I think it's home to
like eight thousand resources or something like that, so there's
plenty of infold on there, including all that newcat we'reing stuff.
(33:01):
So check it out and give us a call if
you've got any questions.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You can never have too much info. Keeley, thanks for
your time as always.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Cool.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Thanks Andy for you.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Kelley Buckingham of Derry en Z. This is the muster
before we wrap up. Hayden Buyers is joining US Coach
of the South and Hines. Gwen Campbell providing the tunes
on a Wednesday afternoon Wichita Lineman that one there of course,
(33:33):
Wednesday Night Country happening at seven o'clock here on Hakanui
thanks to regional ford Ism, joined in the studio by
Hayden Buyer's name known to a lot of people down
here in the South but of course his second year
as coach of the Southland Hines.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Good afternoon, Pecker. How are you.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
I'm very good, Thank you, Thank you Andy, thanks for
having me on.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I spoke to you last year about the Southland Hines
and the trials and tribulations of rugby in South and
we all know what's going on with the Stags and
try to get players and the likes. But look the
woman's game straight off the calf, it looks to be
in a pretty good place.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Yeah, it isn't a good place. I mean probably this
year with the club rugby we had one team less
than what we did did last year, but that sort
of galvanized everybody a little bit more and probably made
it a tougher competition because when we got to that
final this year, it was a really good game of
footy to watch and quite proud. It just went to
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another level, which is probably helped the hinds Awee bit
with the start of their campaign this year as well.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know, the emergence of Pioneer making it to the
final start taking out the price, but just to get there.
And one good thing about Star as well, I think
they're putting in women's facilities. A lot of Pioneers already
done that, and you see a lot of recognition by
the clubs regarding the women's game.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
Yeah, absolutely, the ones that do have the women's team,
so certainly are making the facilities a bit more usually
friendly for those women playing, And yeah, it does make
life a lot easier, and we try to use those
socileties as well because the girls know they're there and
like to use that. You know they're there to be used,
so it's good.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Were numbers an issue at all?
Speaker 8 (35:10):
I think it was only about that first round that
we sort of had to buy a mismatch, or I
wouldn't say mismatch a default, but we got through pretty
much the rest of the season. We had a rule
this year that if the team didn't have enough players,
it was game one anyway, and they just had to
match numbers. So I think one time Wakatapho had to
(35:32):
come down to Pioneer with maybe only thirteen I think
it was, and the game still got to be played.
So yeah, that's just you've got to take your hats
off to those rocket girls that do a lot of
traveling sometimes.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, so the hinds as such, you're into pre past preseason,
I suppose not far off kickoff if you haven't done
it already.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
Yeah, we've had one game already against Canterbury Mary Wahini.
It was a good game up there at just at
omor South of omor Mahino And yeah, we had a
good good win at thirty nine points to know, which
is kind of quite good because if we look back
(36:15):
on the team that we had last year, there was
only five players that had come through from last year
that were still playing this year. So a new bunch
of girls and a different sort of ending really for
the same team that we plaid last year.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
So are you pretty realistic about player turnover?
Speaker 8 (36:34):
I think it's just something that happens in the woman's game.
You know, they've got bigger responsibilities than probably what the
males do. On the other side. We males go to
work and turn up and sort of thing where you
get a dear said a woman that falls pregnant, well
playing pregnancy, and you know they've got a lot more
(36:55):
time out of the game than what a male would,
if you know what I mean, in the same same scenario.
And there's a few girls that have gone overseas and
we've lost a few girls to university from last year's team.
So that's just I think that's just what Southern rugby
is going to have to put up with for quite
a while really.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
So the ones who want to play for Southland as such,
for the Hinds, they've just got to be prepared to
put in the effort just realizing it is what it is.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's pretty much. It's just we we
set our goals and we've got our objectives that we
want to achieve type thing, and we run it past them,
and I think we're realistic of where we want to
go and what we want to be as a team
down here type thing. We want to be competitive. That's
probably the first thing. To get a result like we
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did on the weekend was probably a wee bit surprising.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
But.
Speaker 8 (37:50):
It just goes to show that maybe also us as coaches,
myself and my other two we've got we understand it
a bit more better than what we did last year
and are targeting things alley bit you know, differently. So
hopefully I just see the camaraderie and the team and
the feeling and the teams a lot further ahead. It's
(38:11):
where we finished last year and we just started this year.
So it always helps.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
And I dare say you've got a good affiliation with
Rugby South as well off the side.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
Yeah, definitely, there's a lot of support with Rugby South
on behind the women's game. You know, it's part of
what's out there. You see it on Facebook. It just
gets as much part of the club rugby gets as
much as what the premier rugby type carry on does.
That final that we had, you know, Pioneering Star in
(38:40):
the final, there was just the same amount of crowd
as what was there for the Barberian's Old Boys game
and to be fair, they are two bloody good finals
to watch. It was a pleasure to be there.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
So what do you do as far as practice? How
many practices a week? Because I like the old club
routine Tuesday and Thursday or how do you.
Speaker 8 (39:00):
Yeah, it's like our club routine. Last year we shifted
our trainings around, like we'd have a week in Gore,
a weekend of Cargo in a weekend probably Winton. But
this year, we're just staying at Winton. The girls on
their feedback last year just wanted to have one base,
so we're just sticking with that. We're going to Winton
because it just saves a bit more travel for those
(39:22):
Queenstown girls coming down because our travel in the furthest.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
So and we turn up. We trained for an hour
and a half, an hour and a quarter sort of thing,
and on Thursday nights we'll get together and we have
a meal afterwards. We have team challenges that part of
the team's putting a meal on, so it's we call
it dinner wars. And there's a bit of strategic voting
going on at the moment, so it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
You'll bring a bit of venison on the space.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Ah yeah, I got a wee bit of venis in there.
But apparently it's my turn to cut this week and
they've given me potatoes, So sorry, girls, you're just on
potatoes chips. Oh no, it's going to be baked potatoes,
I'm afraid. So there we go.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
So I'm looking at your agenda for the next couple
of for the few games you've got coming up, and
you will say a few games, well, there are a
few on the horizon. This weekend you've got Tasman and
a Target development in Dunedin. Okay, use a target development
as an example. What's the difference between Southland and Otago
and women's rugby?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Is it resources?
Speaker 5 (40:23):
No?
Speaker 8 (40:23):
I think probably to be fair, their club competition is
slightly a wee bit better. You'll probably find that they're
average age with university students bring it down a web.
I don't want to be just slightly a wee bit faster.
They've got the Spirit there type thing. I noticed. I've
seen the two teams come out and a Target Development
(40:46):
squad is not a very big squad. So I'd imagine
we go to play them, we're going to have a
few of the Spirit girls being dropped down to play against.
I think they're backs. They've only named eight backs, so
that's you know, there's seven on a paddock and there's
got to be a couple of three reserves there. Some
way say so it's economy a scale, Yeah, economy a
(41:07):
scale type thing.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
I don't think we you know, you'd look at south
and Rugby, we couldn't name two teams. We know, two
quality teams like they've they've done that there. But in
saying that, if you look at the two teams, there's
a few few Southern girls in those ex Southern girls
that are all in those teams too, So that's good
to see. But it's one of those things that if
(41:29):
we went to the next level, maybe we would have
some of them would filter back into Southern rugby. And
you know we're the NPC's on the cards that that
might that might be something that would boost the Southern squad.
If you understand what.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I'm saying, how are you enjoying the role?
Speaker 8 (41:44):
I I enjoy it. The girls make that enjoyment. Yeah,
it's it is different to the boys type. Carry on.
There's not a lot of egos out there. And the
woman rugby longs. You know, you've got to care about
(42:05):
them and if they know that you care about them,
they'll just about to do anything for you. So No,
I love love the roll to bits, absolutely because the
feedback you get from them, so and the wee bit
of ban is kind of you know, just nice.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Ye Camaraderi will be a big thing.
Speaker 8 (42:22):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, and that pretty quick. When I do
something wrong or say something wrong, put me in my place.
But You've just got to take that with a grain
of salt type carry on because I'm not the biggest
upfront speaker at times and stuff like that. So yeah,
we get there.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Actually speak out of them. Whereas hey, Hayden, thanks for
coming in this afternoon. You get to listen to this,
you lucky bugger, laugh.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
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Speaker 2 (42:54):
Firstly, if you've got a damn joke you.
Speaker 8 (42:55):
Want to do, No, I don't have a Oh no,
I don't have a You should have prepped me a
bit for for that. It would have come up with
something and my kids will be horrified. So now I'll
leave you to you.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
What do you call an army of chales mildiary military?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
And hey you going on your haiden, Thanks for coming
in and all the best for the season that we're
always going to always.
Speaker 8 (43:16):
Appreciate you to nah, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Hate them buyers there. Wrapping up the Master Amandy Mure.
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Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hokanui Andy
nearly here until two o'clock. The show is brought to
you by Peters Genetics. Welcome along and hump day. On
a rather hectic hour in New Zealand politics. If you
haven't heard, has just come out in the last five
minutes or so that National Leader Christopher Luxen remains in
charge of a national party and as Prime minister. He
(00:23):
had some very brief remarks his press confidence lasted all
of seventy six seconds and his statement was, there was
a confidence vote in my leadership this morning at our
caucus meeting. I had the full support of our caucus,
and our caucus is united and is determined to win
this election. And like said Erika Stanford, Christopher Bishop behind
him in a sign of solidarity. So how many times
(00:46):
can you say caucus in the one sentence? But nonetheless
that is the go there from the beehive, normality resumes
kind of in the political world. Like you say, Christopher
Luxon remains leader of the National Party. Right, let's crack
into it changed today at Glenn Campbell.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Remembering this country.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Wednesday, Hoku's five day forecast with twin farm teff from
and seft text. The proof is in the progeny tear
from dot co dot Inza.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
This afternoon, here we go, rain developing with breezy or
easteries and a high of twelve. Thursday reign developing with calm,
variable wins two and fifteen. Friday partly cloudy were like
northwestles five and thirteen. Saturday morning showers a bree sell
breezy sol west is zero and eight, and Sunday cloudy
with breezy westerlies four and nine.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So temper just a hand.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Clinton's seven point one, Harriet five point seven, Northern south
and five point five, Riverton seven point three to out
our six point six.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Todor row Is six point four one to four point five.
Got do you get to read that any faster?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And woodlands at saxophone chaos Like I say, anyway, we're
starting the show of Jeff krant I spoke to you
about twenty minutes ago just as this decision regarding christ
luxe and was made and just ramifications what it means
and the lead up to the election. Then Tom Shall,
out of Craig's Investment Partners, is on the program. Keeley
Buckingham of Derry in z Don mood dairy farming at Kennington,
(02:13):
A lot of calves on the ground, a lot of farms.
Don tells us how this place is faring. And in
studio Hayden Buyer's Coach of the South and hines there's
another season gets underway for the Heins. But yeah, crank
straight into it, like I say, if you haven't heard
breaking news. Christopher Luxon remains leader of the National Party.
Up next, Jeff Grant.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I've been walking the street.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Jeff Grant is a former National MP and joins us
this afternoon with everything happening up at the Bee Hive
for the wrong reasons for the National Party. Jeff, good, afternoon.
We've recorded this probably about twelve thirty, so we're just
waiting for an announcement which is imminent. Look, you've been
there and done that. What is this doing to the
National Party brand?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Oh? This is not useful, you know, eighty nine days
out from an election. If you look at the history
of local parties and changed leadership, they've been through occasions.
I think that's been successful. Which notice there have been
a lot of dead bodies otherwise. So for that reason,
(03:26):
I think that'll be why the course is taken so long,
because this is really, in comparison to four weeks ago,
this is much more dangerous territory in terms of surviving
through the election, and it won't be just a matter
whether you keep the current leader and change, or more
importantly is how do you deal with the next eighty
nine days.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And that's the thing I suppose. I mean, these voices
of discontent within the party continue to be heard considering
the coalition government looks odds on to continue, so all
can't be well.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
No, I you know, when you think about the reality
of probably the events of the last three weeks, you look,
we will make mistakes, and I don't think any of
them were material. Yes, they went good sort of situations
suddenly decide we're going to have an MP, butte that
(04:20):
we're going to introduce dectives and course, this you know,
makes you question sort of the leadership style this has built.
This has been building for us some time and so
whatever they choose to do is still going to make
it very difficult.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
And that's the issue.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I suppose with all this discontent going on, I mean,
a flax and continues on. He's got to be assertive
of his action regarding those who are showing all this frustration,
I suppose yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Look, I think the little body seems to struggle on
is the difference between governance and being a chief executive
and not all chief executives transition into a governance role
particularly well. And governance requires leadership that requires you having
all your team on your side, and when you've got
half your team not on your side, it doesn't matter
(05:14):
what you do, you're never going to pull it together.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Now, as far as the rural lends, one thing.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
About Christopher election Christopher Luxon is he has been good
for the rural sector. Should will we be concerned of,
say Eric Stanford and Chris Bishop perhaps gets the top job?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What does that mean for real?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Well, look, without any doubt the MP has been putting
quite a focus not just on the National Party but
across all the political parties around the rural scene. And
that's because it's an important part of the economy and
has shine through since covid onwards. I think that the
PM has in my view, been quite passionate about the
(05:55):
rural sector, which you haven't always seen in the leader
of a political And if you shifted to an irven
drift sort of mentality with somebody else, then it does
put some risk. But I think without any any doubt
at all, the current PM has been a strong supporter
of the head culture sector.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I suppose a concerned anything though from the outside of
looking in. Was Christopher Luxen's comment last week on ZIB
talking at reform regarding MMP when he hadn't consulted.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
As caucus saw his party.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's pretty that's pretty disturbing or concerning would be a
better word.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Well, that that tells you somebody operating in a CEO
on a governance leadership role, because if you had, if
you had really good understanding around that whole governance leadership role,
you would know that whenever you say something publicly that
you have your team fully supportive. And the only way
(06:52):
to find out things fully supportive is to have discussed
it through a caucus or kidnet process prior to announcing.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Joseph Mooney Now, when approached by reporters earlier on, you
see they'd rather be in this electric electorate where a
major central local government deal is expected to be signed
with today that he's had a lot of skin in
the game with didn't actually give a support behind the
Prime minister.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Do we read much under that?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Oh, look at asking MPs as they're walking through an
airport concourse where they where they sit between on a
particular issue or a leadership role. I mean you ain't
even going to get the perfect answer. I think Joseph
said only two days ago that he was supportive of
the Prime minister, so I wouldn't read too much in it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
This won't affect the coalition government though, and the lead
up to the election as such. I mean they can
carry on the way they are currently.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Right, Yeah, absolutely. The coalition agreements are actually between the parties,
not between the leaders So if you had to change
the leadership and one of the coalition partners parties, that
doesn't change the coalition agreement. They still stand through to
an election day and unless the party decides to pull
it out.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now you're a national party chief whip for a term
in the nineties, just described the role and like the
pressure that the Whits will be under today.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Well, I had a challenge around the deputy leagues count riches.
Without any doubt you always go through this bit of
a process. The chief whip requirement is the primary part
of his role is always to keep the end of
the party informed, you know, every twenty four hours. In
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terms of these process the chief Whip wouldn't take a position.
The chief Whip should just be the communicator or the
messenger on behalf of the caucus to the Prime Minister
or the leader of the party and just making sure
factually you're providing the right information and that the leader
(08:58):
is well aware of the position situation that it is.
When it comes to numbers, it tends to be driven
and in my time it was we removed Winston Peter's
from the party and that started by a range of
MP's writing Leader to the chief Whip and that started
a process. And so that's usually the communication line is
(09:19):
for these sort of material matters is via the chief Whip.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Chris Hebkez hasn't really released a lot of policy, but
when you see what's going on on the other side
of the beehive, he probably doesn't have to at the moment.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
No.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Look, I you know, there's an old saying in politics.
You know, elections are about governments losing rather than oppositions winning.
And we look to a certain extent, we look like
we're on track for one of those so in an opposition,
you just hold your fire until you get a bit
of clear air and no point in releasing stuff while
(09:55):
the other side's in a bit of turmoil. Look that
banner away. You will see it in the The polls
won't look good for the next four weeks, no matter
what the outcomers. You know, there's always this belief you
change the leader and you get a bump on the polls.
You might get a bump on the polls, it will
be very short term. People will come back to realization
around things like their income, their ability to feed the family,
(10:19):
all those things, because you don't go away and they
have become the focus. As you get.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Good on you doff bee leave it there. Thanks for
your time and short notice.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yes it's nice.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Shut out on Jeff gard Fair.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I recorded that probably about twenty minutes ago, and of
course we found out since Christopher Luxon has indeed held
on to the leadership of the National Party and remains
Prime Minister.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Tom Shallard's up next.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
The Muster financial segment with Craig's investment partners in Gore.
This information is general in nature and it's not financial advice.
Craig's investment Partner's Limited Financial Advice Provider Disclosure statement can
be found at craigsip dot com.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Tom shell Out of Craig's Investment Partners Joints, is in
studio once again.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Andy. We're getting through the wind,
aren't where? It's starting to starting to feel a bit brighter.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, it is, and you'd like to think so for
the middle of August, and arguably there could still be
a sting in the tail. We won't talk about that today,
but you know, you've got a bit of blue sky
around over the last couple of days, and you just
look for the positives.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
It's probably been pretty pretty good to us so far.
So let's hope that rolls through to September.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
No lambs on the shell up farm yet, No, not.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Yet, Andy, Hopefully the month away.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, that's the way you want it.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Artificial intelligence, how is the story evolving?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, it's a hell of.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
A statement for a start, because straight off the cuff
you just say it's going everywhere.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Here's definitely the pace of changes as rapid artificial eligence
remains one of the dominant themes dominant investment themes globally,
so the Emerging Markets INDEXES is interestingly outperforming many developed
markets here today. That's that that component of that is
(12:16):
China and South Korea, and they produce a lot of
a lot of semiconductors which have driven markets over the
last year. But a lot of attention has focused on
companies building data centers, as I said, manufacturing semiconductors and
cloud infrastructure. But we think the next phase potentially looks
quite different. So historically, major technological revolutions don't just create
(12:41):
one investment case, and we're sort of started to see
that that broadened in the market now. They tend to
create waves of opportunities and early winners you know, often
the infrastructure builders, but letter winners tend to be businesses
that successfully adopt the technology.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Is that what you're seeing with a in your line
of work? Is it that relevant? Yep, No, it is.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
It is changing a lot, not sort of something we
tend to use so much. But obviously the companies we
invest in a big adopters, and that's healthcare, innovation, biotechnology, robotics, automation,
and advanced manufacturing. So yeah, there are some parts of
I guess services businesses like product enhancing software which will
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ultimately lead to some form of efficiency gains and the
automation and tasks that humans will no longer need to do.
So yeah, the rate of change across probably all sectors
is very very fast.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What are some scenarios that it can do.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
For example, it's more what it can do to enterprises
and and honestly what will flow through to the bottom line.
So it's not going to necessarily replace people's jobs, but
it should make every unit of labor a lot more
efficient and.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
So effectively place jobs down the line potentially.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
But it should also make the human and control a
lot more efficient, so so every hour of their time
they can achieve more work. But yeah, ultimately you're already
seeing some degree of job cuts and through the likes
of the big banks in Australia. So yeah, that is
a reality commercial reality of AI. But we sort of
(14:26):
more look at it broadly, and that's site AI solving
healthcare problems and you know, some automation and and advanced manufacturing.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
A big week, a big week of data ahead.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
Yeah, look at here. There's there's several important events on
the calendar. So in the United States, inflation data, retail sales,
consumer confidence figures, we'll see all of them this week
and that'll shape or expectations for future federal reserve decisions.
Closer to home reserved being for Australia's releasing a monetary
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policy statement and the New Zealand. Investors continue to monitor
inflation expectations. We've got some manufacturing activity data this week
and net migration data which is always interesting. But yeah, overall,
the market appears increasingly comfortable with the current outlook. Economic
growth remains positive, and corporate earnings are well. They've generally
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exceeded expectations.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
The reporting season in the States I talked about this
David a couple of weeks ago hasn't been favorable yep.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
At technology into things, the corporate earnings have been phenomenal.
So yeah, earnings growth in large cap US tech has
grown by about twenty one percent a year on year.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
All these tech companies and phone companies, they're just going gangbusters.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yeah, tech tech tech generally, but it's not driven by
multiple expansions that it's not the company getting more expensive
to buy. It's driven by the increase in the underlying earnings.
So on a valuation basis that they're actually reasonably valued well,
whilst you know, the headline prices is more expensive than
a year ago.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Right you reckon, we need to take a long term
beyond things.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Yeah, So, as investors, it's pretty easy to be distracted
by the noise of day to day headlines. You know,
we think the last fourteen odd months we've had we've
had tariffs, we've had a war. You know, we've potentially
got higher inflation from increased energy costs, and there's always
(16:38):
releases of different economic data. But the successful investors are
the ones that understand that that good outcomes don't don't
come from reacting to every headline. Markets will always face uncertainty,
but yeah, that's that's not something to fear. That's sort
of the price to pay for the opportunity to grow
grow wealth over time in the markets. Yes, I guess
(17:01):
final message there, Andy, take take a long term view,
stay diversified, and you remember, success in markets really comes
from those who predict every twist and turn. It's it's
won by owning good assets at reasonable prices, businesses that
are going to consistently grow the runings over time and
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are supported by long term structural tails.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Question, how do markets react to inflammatory headlines at the moment.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Given what's going on around the world.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
The story of the last two years, Andy has been volatility,
so you do sort of see bigger intra d A
swings than we would have seen in the past. Trump
administrations tend to be headline driven markets and that's that's
holding true.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And you've only said Trump once in this whole interview.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I almost got through it.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Craig's ip. You're in that nice new building, pretty warm
at the moment. I'd imagine where are you're located.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Calling to the office at one Street, Gore, or give
me a call on three two o nine.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Tom Shallard always good to catch up, Thanks Eddie.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Tom Shellard of Craig's Investment Partners based here in Gore.
Obviously new world. In that cozy little building they've got,
it's not little, actually nice and spacious. Go and see
the team as well. Regarding anything you want to know
regarding investment.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Don Moore's up next. There's stop falling by the way.
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Speaker 1 (18:38):
He has found Don Moore Farms at Kennington. He's part
of the Fonterra Shreholders Council. Don Good Afternoon. The song
is Southern Nights by Glenn Campbell. But the Southern days
at the moment are pretty busy. It sounds as though
you've got calves everywhere.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, things are pretty busy at the moment. Yeah, we're
probably caught out a little bit. It's we're already just
over twenty five percent in through carving, and I haven't
finished my window projects, so sort of trying to get
some of those ticked off in a couple of hours.
We get free in the afternoon and then and then
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we're back into the next day again. So yeah, it's
a busy.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Time, all right.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Is it chaos at the moment or are you coping?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Yeah, no, we're coping. It's it's organized chaos, I would
I would say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, I like that term. It covers a lot of bases.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just getting processes are coming into place now.
You know, we've got the milky mob and milk going
in the vat and the routines starting to settle in.
It's just that real busy time when you're getting a
lot of carves. You've got a big clossrum mob the
cowshed time as a lot, training heifers and calves coming
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out everywhere. So yeah, no, we're getting there. It's we
are getting We're keeping on top of it, we're keeping
ahead of it. But it's busy yep.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Training the heifers. How's that going on the platform?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Ah, yeah good, it's not so bad in the hearing bone.
We run them through a few times over winter and
and so, and then we bring our springers and so
they so by the time they get to milking, they've
they've been through the road up a few times already,
so that's not too much of a problem. It's just
you know, those cows, those heifers that want to kick
their cups off and things like that. But yeah, that's
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just that's that's carving. It happens every.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Year, so it's kind of like kids at a school play.
They go there and practice and practice. When it comes
to the main event, a few of them have the
opportunity to go about roguan.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
It does happen, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Yeah, Yeah, you get the occasional one, but most of
them are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So as far as you went too projects.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Remembering not long ago you move down to Kennington, what
do you still got to what are you working on
still as such?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Well, all sorts of things. We've got some heifer pins
that are half built. We've got heifers in them and
in the in the two bays that we've almost finished.
And then we're sort of trying to work ahead of ourselves.
And I probably got a bit carried away ripping out
things with the digger over winter, and I've still got
I've still got a few fences to build as well
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while we're while we're there, So I was out yesterday
for a couple of hours getting a fence prepped, and
today I'll go and bang in some posts and get
a lane finished. And yeah, getting power around the farm's
been a bit of an issue. Holt has been a
saving grace for that, but still they you know, you
still need power on those gates and things, and yeah,
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so we're working away at it. I had a good,
good good win yesterday around getting some power around some
more of the farm. So I'll get these, hopefully get
these other to this lane finished today in this afternoon maybe,
and they're all really help things.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
A digger can be a useful yet brutal tool in
the wrong hands.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Look, it's so enjoyable having the digger on farm and
making progress, but then you've got the job of sorting
everything out that you've done after the fact.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
As far as your feed levels, I mean, we've had
a few frosts recently, got cool last week.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Are you happy with your covers?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yeah, yeah, definitely we had some pretty sort of fantastic
winter growth and yeah, we had a bit of a
wit a week and but look, it's it's not been
real with You can still ride around most of the
farm on a two wheeler, which this time of the year,
that's that's that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, it's really good going for the time of year.
And it's the same old story. If you've got too
much tucker in there. There's still the opportunity of frost,
which I think might be forecast over the weekend just
to up the buds off as well.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Yeah yeah, and so yeah, I mean with all the grass,
you sort of you want a bit of a dry
spring that you can actually utilize. It can be a
bit of a challenge otherwise.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
But it's a great problem to have too much tucker.
You've got to be got to matte.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Oh, definitely, yeah, definitely, And we're we're probably oversupplied with
winter bayleage. I think we're definitely not going to finish
all of that, So that's a good thing. We'll we'll
push that through to the next winter.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So would you say it's been a softer winter than
last year if that's possible, will bear in mind you're.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
In a new farming position as well, new spot.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah, I think it has been. Yeah, if you if
you're wet in May, you've got a wet, wet, wet winter.
But we had a really good maid and in June here,
so that's that's helped out a lot.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And of course the g d T last week there
was a slight rise in there which stopped that run
of falls that of seen over the past two or
three auctions before that. And it'll be interesting to see
where it ends up too.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
It certainly will be. And you know, sort of seeing
social media and things of what's happening overseas, there's there's
there seems to be a bit of pressure on milk
production overseas, and and I guess that might start to
play out and we might start to see that in
some of the GDT auctions over the next month or two.
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But yeah, that's something that only time will tell a two.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
People talking about late eight dollars these days for a
break even point, I think last season, just on the
average of what you heard around eight dollars forty eight
dollars fifty was that point. But that extra thirty cents
is quite a concern. If that is the case, are
you seeing that.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Well, I mean it's an interesting one. There's certainly some
amatted costs and things, but there's been you make sure
that you're sort of separate out some extra things that
people have done on farm, you know, and there's been
a lot of investment on farm and some of that,
you know, most of that, yes, that will go into
sort of capital, but some of it will get soaked
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into RNN expenses and increase your farm working expenses that
in that way. But it's a positive move and it's
a positive spend. So as long as they it's being
spent on the right things, then then that's okay.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
So that's how your view this season A hit. Everything's
looking pretty positive. To coin that B word.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah, I'm I'm, I'm I'm positive about how things are going,
you know, And obviously we've taken on a lot more
debt this year with the new farm, and but we're
still sitting pretty positive around what the future looks like
over the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Has it taken you a while to get used to
your new surroundings or you knew what was coming?
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Yeah, it's probably more on the social front, to be fair.
It's been interesting. It's got got its highs and its lows.
And you know, we miss all all of our friends
back and Gore and and you know, we catch up
with some of them occasionally, but you certainly don't see
them daily lot you used to. So that's been the
biggest change, you know, and saying for the kids at
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new school. But but in the cargo's got a lot
to offer and and the kids have been into sports
and things that they never had the opportunity to do,
so so that there's you know, there's some positives and negatives.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You haven't hear the big smoke traffic lights down there,
you know.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Oh and look, I was hoping to get out last
weekend and go for a fish even but no, the
way that carving's gone, that's sort of put the cord
wash on that pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, it sounds as though everything's happening at once time.
We'll be you carry on and good luck with the carving.
Sounds like you need it.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Of all these numbers will be good, but thank you
very much.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Done Moore farming at Kennington. Interesting those status he just
talked about. Then over a quarter of his herd already
popped out their calves, and you're hearing it in a
few places too.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So while it's like the end of his guns to
the gun.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Well, hopefully everybody gets through all right, because it is
a busy time of year.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's called carving. Right.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Kenny Backing is up next from darien Ze talking about carving.
Let's have a catch up.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
He's cool. Welcome back to the muster.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Keevy Buckingham joins us out of dairy en Z Keeley,
Good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Carving is around everywhere.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
It is it is. It seems like it's come on
suck and fast too for a few people, which is
good and bad. Right, keeps it over and done with quicker.
That certainly makes us some long days, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, the weather's with you. It's a good thing.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Yeah, totally. Yeah, and it has been relatively nice for
the most part so far.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, I think we do about fifteen degrees with something
ridiculous tomorrow. It seems like the tropics when you get
to those temperatures.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Yeah, I was gonna have to get the old pins
out for the sun like that.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well there you go.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Hey, talking today about ADLB CAF feeding A lot of
calves around and just thinking about all matters are growing.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Yeah, definitely, So the ad LIB system, I suppose it's
one that's come to be more and more popular for
the last few years as people get busier and you
know a lot of mums out there with kids and
toe as well, and twice a day feeding does get
quite busy. So ed lib is definitely one of those
things that is getting pretty hot out here. And so
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we're really fortunate that we've had a bit of insight
to this. Well, you know, our Animal Animals team up
in Hamilton and so there was a lot of chat
around ed lib feeding you know, out there online and stuff,
but not a lot that has been like researched in
New Zealand. And so that team before Carving started coming
(28:39):
together and have developed an ad LIB cart feeding guide. So, yeah,
that's been specifically designed for you know, the New Zealand system.
So that's super cool. That can be found online and
so I guess just some key messages to come out
of that if you haven't seen it and are going
to try EdLib once you get into the sick of
carving this year. There are just a few key things too, Yeah,
(29:04):
I guess make sure that you've got in mind. So
a few of the key points would be, you know,
keeping mobs between ten and twenty calves to and keeping
those groups consistent sized in the providing The other one
around the size is just providing one teat for every
three to five calves and making sure that yeah, they're
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getting checked regularly daily, filling up of drums like from
like fresh milk every day rather than putting fresh milk
on top of old milk. There's another key one there,
and making sure that if you are going to be
doing the ad LIB system, to budget for higher milk
use and so cold milk might reduce bacteria bacterial growth
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and the milk, but calves might drink more to compensate
for that. So yeah, and the other one just around
ed libbers doesn't it's not a satin forget system. So
we do still need to be making sure and you know,
I'm sure people don't just set in figet anyway, but
making sure that if you are going to try that system,
to make sure you're checking the calves individually and know
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the signs of health and illness and so if you Yeah,
there's a guide that has been just released I think
it was in July, and so that can be found
on the darien Zied website around Yeah, it's just called
the ad lib Calf Feeding Guide and there and as well. Actually,
the other cool new resource that was released just before
carving started was the Calf Rearing Guide. And so that
(30:36):
calf Rearing Guide it covers everything from setting up calf pens,
calf sheds all the way through to you know, the
weaning stage and wait and stuff like that. So it's
a massive document, but definitely one I was just flicking
through it this morning and thinking, man, if I had
a new calf rearer on farm, then this would be
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exactly what I'd be putting in front of them to
set them up. Well, you know, don't have to read
every chunk of it, you know, the whole thing from
start to finish right now, but as we move through
the phases, you know from colostteral management, I mean eventually
it weened. There's all different sections in there, so really
cool guide and.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
We're going to have a good spring here in the south.
Touch would But you're just looking at all the positives.
Nonetheless having a plan b if you need. It's something
to have in your mind.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Day.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Yeah, definitely. You know, we've still got a lot of
cows on crop, a lot of cows being in spring,
of peddocks on pasture, and it is it has been wet,
and so just making sure that if you have got cows,
you know, outside or potentially still on crop, that we
do need to be making sure if the weather forecast
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is coming in bead that you do who a plan
be up your sleeve for taking cows off muddy peedicks,
muddy crop peedicks, giving another option if it's needing to
chat into the direction and once you're grazing, to avoid
wheat patches or where soils might be a bit heavier
than those type of things still need to be maintained.
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I know it is tricky when you're in the depths
of carving to remember or to make time for that
type of thing. But still those cows, you know, have
got a heak of a season in front of them,
still in making sure that you know they're not succumbing
to any bad weather and making sure that they're still
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being prioritized. Yeah, it is really important.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
You're in good website. I suppose a few more types
of people need them.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
Yes, definitely always on there, especially around that. You know,
it'll all be under the wintering tab or information section
on there around if it's with crop management. But yeah,
the green z website is I think it's home to
like eight thousand resources or something like that, so there's
plenty of infold on there, including all that newcat we'reing stuff.
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So check it out and give us a call if
you've got any questions.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You can never have too much info. Keeley, thanks for
your time as always.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Cool.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Thanks Andy for you.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Kelley Buckingham of Derry en Z. This is the muster
before we wrap up. Hayden Buyers is joining US Coach
of the South and Hines. Gwen Campbell providing the tunes
on a Wednesday afternoon Wichita Lineman that one there of course,
(33:33):
Wednesday Night Country happening at seven o'clock here on Hakanui
thanks to regional ford Ism, joined in the studio by
Hayden Buyer's name known to a lot of people down
here in the South but of course his second year
as coach of the Southland Hines.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Good afternoon, Pecker. How are you.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
I'm very good, Thank you, Thank you Andy, thanks for
having me on.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I spoke to you last year about the Southland Hines
and the trials and tribulations of rugby in South and
we all know what's going on with the Stags and
try to get players and the likes. But look the
woman's game straight off the calf, it looks to be
in a pretty good place.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Yeah, it isn't a good place. I mean probably this
year with the club rugby we had one team less
than what we did did last year, but that sort
of galvanized everybody a little bit more and probably made
it a tougher competition because when we got to that
final this year, it was a really good game of
footy to watch and quite proud. It just went to
(34:28):
another level, which is probably helped the hinds Awee bit
with the start of their campaign this year as well.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know, the emergence of Pioneer making it to the
final start taking out the price, but just to get there.
And one good thing about Star as well, I think
they're putting in women's facilities. A lot of Pioneers already
done that, and you see a lot of recognition by
the clubs regarding the women's game.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
Yeah, absolutely, the ones that do have the women's team,
so certainly are making the facilities a bit more usually
friendly for those women playing, And yeah, it does make
life a lot easier, and we try to use those
socileties as well because the girls know they're there and
like to use that. You know they're there to be used,
so it's good.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Were numbers an issue at all?
Speaker 8 (35:10):
I think it was only about that first round that
we sort of had to buy a mismatch, or I
wouldn't say mismatch a default, but we got through pretty
much the rest of the season. We had a rule
this year that if the team didn't have enough players,
it was game one anyway, and they just had to
match numbers. So I think one time Wakatapho had to
(35:32):
come down to Pioneer with maybe only thirteen I think
it was, and the game still got to be played.
So yeah, that's just you've got to take your hats
off to those rocket girls that do a lot of
traveling sometimes.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, so the hinds as such, you're into pre past preseason,
I suppose not far off kickoff if you haven't done
it already.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
Yeah, we've had one game already against Canterbury Mary Wahini.
It was a good game up there at just at
omor South of omor Mahino And yeah, we had a
good good win at thirty nine points to know, which
is kind of quite good because if we look back
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on the team that we had last year, there was
only five players that had come through from last year
that were still playing this year. So a new bunch
of girls and a different sort of ending really for
the same team that we plaid last year.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
So are you pretty realistic about player turnover?
Speaker 8 (36:34):
I think it's just something that happens in the woman's game.
You know, they've got bigger responsibilities than probably what the
males do. On the other side. We males go to
work and turn up and sort of thing where you
get a dear said a woman that falls pregnant, well
playing pregnancy, and you know they've got a lot more
(36:55):
time out of the game than what a male would,
if you know what I mean, in the same same scenario.
And there's a few girls that have gone overseas and
we've lost a few girls to university from last year's team.
So that's just I think that's just what Southern rugby
is going to have to put up with for quite
a while really.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
So the ones who want to play for Southland as such,
for the Hinds, they've just got to be prepared to
put in the effort just realizing it is what it is.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's pretty much. It's just we we
set our goals and we've got our objectives that we
want to achieve type thing, and we run it past them,
and I think we're realistic of where we want to
go and what we want to be as a team
down here type thing. We want to be competitive. That's
probably the first thing. To get a result like we
(37:46):
did on the weekend was probably a wee bit surprising.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
But.
Speaker 8 (37:50):
It just goes to show that maybe also us as coaches,
myself and my other two we've got we understand it
a bit more better than what we did last year
and are targeting things alley bit you know, differently. So
hopefully I just see the camaraderie and the team and
the feeling and the teams a lot further ahead. It's
(38:11):
where we finished last year and we just started this year.
So it always helps.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
And I dare say you've got a good affiliation with
Rugby South as well off the side.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
Yeah, definitely, there's a lot of support with Rugby South
on behind the women's game. You know, it's part of
what's out there. You see it on Facebook. It just
gets as much part of the club rugby gets as
much as what the premier rugby type carry on does.
That final that we had, you know, Pioneering Star in
(38:40):
the final, there was just the same amount of crowd
as what was there for the Barberian's Old Boys game
and to be fair, they are two bloody good finals
to watch. It was a pleasure to be there.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
So what do you do as far as practice? How
many practices a week? Because I like the old club
routine Tuesday and Thursday or how do you.
Speaker 8 (39:00):
Yeah, it's like our club routine. Last year we shifted
our trainings around, like we'd have a week in Gore,
a weekend of Cargo in a weekend probably Winton. But
this year, we're just staying at Winton. The girls on
their feedback last year just wanted to have one base,
so we're just sticking with that. We're going to Winton
because it just saves a bit more travel for those
(39:22):
Queenstown girls coming down because our travel in the furthest.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
So and we turn up. We trained for an hour
and a half, an hour and a quarter sort of thing,
and on Thursday nights we'll get together and we have
a meal afterwards. We have team challenges that part of
the team's putting a meal on, so it's we call
it dinner wars. And there's a bit of strategic voting
going on at the moment, so it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
You'll bring a bit of venison on the space.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Ah yeah, I got a wee bit of venis in there.
But apparently it's my turn to cut this week and
they've given me potatoes, So sorry, girls, you're just on
potatoes chips. Oh no, it's going to be baked potatoes,
I'm afraid. So there we go.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
So I'm looking at your agenda for the next couple
of for the few games you've got coming up, and
you will say a few games, well, there are a
few on the horizon. This weekend you've got Tasman and
a Target development in Dunedin. Okay, use a target development
as an example. What's the difference between Southland and Otago
and women's rugby?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Is it resources?
Speaker 5 (40:23):
No?
Speaker 8 (40:23):
I think probably to be fair, their club competition is
slightly a wee bit better. You'll probably find that they're
average age with university students bring it down a web.
I don't want to be just slightly a wee bit faster.
They've got the Spirit there type thing. I noticed. I've
seen the two teams come out and a Target Development
(40:46):
squad is not a very big squad. So I'd imagine
we go to play them, we're going to have a
few of the Spirit girls being dropped down to play against.
I think they're backs. They've only named eight backs, so
that's you know, there's seven on a paddock and there's
got to be a couple of three reserves there. Some
way say so it's economy a scale, Yeah, economy a
(41:07):
scale type thing.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
I don't think we you know, you'd look at south
and Rugby, we couldn't name two teams. We know, two
quality teams like they've they've done that there. But in
saying that, if you look at the two teams, there's
a few few Southern girls in those ex Southern girls
that are all in those teams too, So that's good
to see. But it's one of those things that if
(41:29):
we went to the next level, maybe we would have
some of them would filter back into Southern rugby. And
you know we're the NPC's on the cards that that
might that might be something that would boost the Southern squad.
If you understand what.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I'm saying, how are you enjoying the role?
Speaker 8 (41:44):
I I enjoy it. The girls make that enjoyment. Yeah,
it's it is different to the boys type. Carry on.
There's not a lot of egos out there. And the
woman rugby longs. You know, you've got to care about
(42:05):
them and if they know that you care about them,
they'll just about to do anything for you. So No,
I love love the roll to bits, absolutely because the
feedback you get from them, so and the wee bit
of ban is kind of you know, just nice.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Ye Camaraderi will be a big thing.
Speaker 8 (42:22):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, and that pretty quick. When I do
something wrong or say something wrong, put me in my place.
But You've just got to take that with a grain
of salt type carry on because I'm not the biggest
upfront speaker at times and stuff like that. So yeah,
we get there.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Actually speak out of them. Whereas hey, Hayden, thanks for
coming in this afternoon. You get to listen to this,
you lucky bugger, laugh.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
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can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
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Speaker 2 (42:54):
Firstly, if you've got a damn joke you.
Speaker 8 (42:55):
Want to do, No, I don't have a Oh no,
I don't have a You should have prepped me a
bit for for that. It would have come up with
something and my kids will be horrified. So now I'll
leave you to you.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
What do you call an army of chales mildiary military?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
And hey you going on your haiden, Thanks for coming
in and all the best for the season that we're
always going to always.
Speaker 8 (43:16):
Appreciate you to nah, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Hate them buyers there. Wrapping up the Master Amandy Mure.
Of course, the podcast is up shortly annoy Heart Radio.
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