March 12, 2026 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Please uncle parties to the muster on Hokanui, proudly brought
to you by Peters Genetics. Coming to you from the
Farmland Site at the Wonka amp Show. My name's Andy Muer.
Thanks for your company. The weather down south, it sounds
though it was raining first thing. It has cleared up.
We look at the weather shortly. But here up in
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central to Tago, it's one of those phenomenons. As soon
as you hit the road that takes you to the
main drag through the Rais junction and the likes I reckon,
the temperature goes up ten degrees and it was about
twenty four to twenty five on the way up here yesterday.
And yeah, just central Targo vibes. We've got plenty to
get through for the hour. Firstly, we're going to give
you the five day forecast, brought to you by twin
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Farm Genetics, the home of Tefrom this afternoon shower was
a breezy westerlies and eighteen Saturday cloudy with breezing your
westerlies eleven and seventeen Sunday pretty much the same, cloudy
with westerlies eleven and Monday afternoon showers of breezy westleys
ten and eighteen and Tuesday cloudy with calm variable wins
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eleven and twenties stays overnight lows are still playing ball.
So tempages now to speak off today couldn't download them
for whatever reason. And just as well, I shout out
to Sheerwell, New Zealand. Alan mcare at McCleary and co.
They are at They are at the show, but they're
going to be here tomorrow. So Allen and Co. They've
got the site here raise here today. Allen's going to
be on site tomorrow on the show this afternoon. But
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to get through actually Jamie McKay former South and B
fullback in the Country Crossover and we start the hour
very surely.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
A bit a bit of payback here on Jamie after
last night.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Egret Away just hold your horses here, DoD Morrison, Willowbank
farmer and organizing this dinner last night which all went
back to Lincoln Sports Foundation as such. Murray Cobra and
the Mainland minerals Miles Anderson and Joseph Mooney, respective MPs
for Watachi and Southland. We just have we talk about
the situation regarding the fuel what's happening there. This is
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moving by the yell, so it seems hearing about this
situation of station's up north panic buying seems to be
the result. Tim Sharpan of Telford based out of Balcluster,
We're gonna have a bit of a chin wag. Always
good to catch up with those guys. What's happening with
young people getting into the industry and possibly Jeff Grant
not too sure yet, but we'll play that one by air,
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but without further ado, we'll crack on with things. Jamie
mckue starts off next. This is the Muster Live at
the Upper Luther Show, Wanaka showed time six after one.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Welcome back to the Muster on Hakanui.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Coming to you live from the Wanaka Show out of
the Farmland site. Jamie McKay joins us now in the
Country Crossover. Jamie, Good, afternoon. We went to the fundraiser
last night for Lincoln University. It was a pretty cool evening.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, really enjoyed it actually, Andy and I think some
of the guests that we had on the couch were outstanding.
Obviously Andy Dalton could have chatted to him all night.
Garry's stead. The surprise package for me was perhaps the
second celebrity couch contestants and it was Child Patterson. Muster
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listeners will be well aware of child James Patterson, former
went Inside farmer and of course Alan Dippy what an
interesting guy he is. And the other guy's Timbo Morris Deeker,
who's a relation of your next guest, Donald Morrison. And
apparently he's like the biggest thing in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Whine.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I had no idea who the bloke was, but him
and old Alan Dippy had a good debate over politics.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
In the end. It was fascinating you just listening to
it all unfold. But it's interesting two things that are
dividing one acre at the moment seems to be a
new McDonald's as well as a gold mine.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, well the gold mines are weep it down the.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, central Tiger regions such that.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
But I think how he's a wealthy Southland farmer and
he's got the obligatory holiday home up here as you
would expect. But the thing with it is there's a
wee bit of nimbiism around the gold mine and I
honestly sit in the middle. I can see the environmental disadvantages,
I can see the economic advantages and we're going to
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be hopefully in early April, having that live stream debate
between the Prince of the Provinces Shane Jones and Saren Taylor.
And they're both very eloquent men. They're both on opposite
sides of the argument, so it will be really interesting
to see who wins out on that one. In Taylor
very much an entrepreneur, obviously behind animation research, and he
said he's not against gold mining per se, he's against
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this gold mine just because of its location.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Shane James, you made the interesting comment last night about
Shane Jason might have been Winston. Actually you think Winston
wants to be PM.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Of course he wants to be PM. He won't be.
I'm sure he won't be. But put it. I'll throw
a scenario at you. New Zealand First polls really well.
National have get cannibalized a bit from both sides. National
and act, and National will act in New Zealand First.
National will need to improve their polling. But if they
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got to some sort of scenario and this is doomsday
worst case scenario, Bill English, two thousand and two, when
National and how he's nodding his head here, they polled
as low as twenty two percent. Helen Clark kicked their backside.
So I put it to you, if National worst case
scenario was in the low twenties, Winston was in the
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mid teens or something like that, an act might have
been nine or ten. All of a sudden, the dynamics
and who's calling the shots changed. Would National step aside
and let Winston be the prime minister just to get
a center right government across the line? I don't know,
but it's certainly the lesser evil, but you never know.
I mean Chippy and Winston. I don't think they can
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stand the side of one another, but Winston has changed
sides in the past. Yeah, I've got the need MP's
on shortly.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Do you think this poll last week and a bit
of hysteria went on as a result of it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Any think it's just hysteria as one pole?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, it's one pole and the other poles. National has
been in what the low thirties, but they're still struggling
to get their message across, even though some of their
ministers I think are performing pretty well, like Erica Stanford
and would be a good example obviously in education. Winston
he's not National, of course, but he's doing a really
good job as our Foreign Affairs minister. He's a very
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safe set of hands, he's very experienced, and he's got
Shane Jones, the bother a boy going around the country
as the hit man. So they're they're a populist party,
but you know their message resonates with a lot of
New Zealanders. Chippy at the moment is kind of sleep
walking to victory. He's not saying much other than his
capital gains policy. What has he come out with? And
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he is just waiting for National to make mistakes rather
and him to come out with policy. He's polling well,
Labor of polling well. But as I said last night,
and I've said it publicly so I'm not afraid to
say it again. The other two coalition partners to Party
Maori and the Greens of these days activist parties. And
I don't think that's the sort of government we want.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's everything you say that because Steve Able, one guy
who seemed to talk really positive about Wall from the Greens,
he's dropped right down the list.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And Steve Abel we met him at our National ande
barbecue and Wellington and he seems like a nice bloke
and he's certainly a moderate, more moderate than some of
the Greens, so you know, I don't know, but I
mean they're greens. Greens are not pro farming. This right
wing coalition government is pro farming. And we needed it
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because for the previous six years, especially the last three
under Dernham Hipkins, and you had David Parker and Damien
and all sorts of people ripping into farmers. Farmers came,
they became villains and they shouldn't have been farming. Got
us through COVID, or got the economy through COVID. And
unless this government recognizes that, and without people like how
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he and his mates who are doing the hard yards
of the cold face, our economy would be absolutely stuffed.
So we want to encourage the golden Goose. We don't
want to kill it.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
He's just through In the last hour as well, Matt
McCrae has been elected to the.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Board of Beef and Land.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
That's one of your correspondents.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
He is, he goes good, he sweepsaks.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I enjoy, I enjoy all your farmer correspondents. And I
met I just parents of Jamie King. Oh yeah, and
they brought along PJ. Butler who was the South African
guy who finished out my show. So the thing, as
I finally say about Wanica, and I'm staying with the
Riversdale sheep farmer tonight with Mark and Tania Shallon. But
like the DNA of this place is Southland sheep farmers originally,
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probably a few southlandairy farmers now, but half a Wanaica
is populated by Southlanders, which is great. You wander around
here and you can't walk five meters without running into someone,
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, we'll leave it there, but before we do, your
comment last night at the very end of the Lincoln
funnerrais regarding Belfer and females. You just want to quantify that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
No, well, I'm not quite sure that was a bit
of a Shane Jones moment he called Chloe a demonic
egg beater. I just meant it in jest, of course,
but I probably needed to realize that Rachel Stead, of course,
is a porter from Belfa, so it was only tongue
in cheek.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Look, I love Belfer. I used to love beating Belfer
at rugby in the nineteen eighties and I've always loved
Belfer and I think it's just a fantastic satellite village
of Riversdale, the capital of northern South Balfa.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Was only created because even Riversdale needed heroes.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Jack Well, my biggest hero growing up, came from Belfer
Ken Stewart, So we'll leave it. I was gonna say naughty,
Oh well, not well, he's Belfer's most famous icon, but
Kenny Stewart was absolutely my hero.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Right, we'll leave you be, Go and get your nose
in the trough for the afternoon. Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
See Andy, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
McKay and the Country Crossover the Muster on HOCKEYU. You're
coming to you from Oh gee, just don't worry about that. McKay.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Up next, Dohn Howie Morrison on site.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Of course, the time is sixteen after one.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
The Muster with any newer thanks to Peter's Genetics. Every
trip means quite a bit when it's from Peter's genetics.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Though, open what.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Eighteen minutes after one?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
This is the Muster coming to you from the Wonca
Field Days Wonica show. We are based up at you
coming out of the farmland site. Up next, Don Morrison
a Willowbank farmer, former Alliance board director and organized a
pretty good Shingleig last night.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Good hell, we killed it, Andy.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Yeah, we managed to put together a rather stunning night
when in Alan Dippy's tractor shed with some incredible hospitality
and generosity from from Ellen and from his from his
pe who helped us put together so really great night.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's a pretty wicked shed there as far as man's
you know, if you've got a share on that in
your backyard, it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
As a guy, we all love having our sheds Andy,
but when you've got some of that gear and that
was that was really something to see.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So what was the driving force for you getting involved
with Lincoln as such? Obviously being an old boy?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
What was it?
Speaker 7 (11:20):
We had a great get together in May which was
specifically around the Lincoln College Ex Rugby Club, and I
guess was an extension of that. We had a great
we had a great weekend up in christ Church and
decided we needed to spread it out to the provinces
just to go and build on some of those networks.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And we're actually specifically.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Trying to raise some funds for a sports facility available
for all the every sports club at Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
University because it seems to be like listening to the
figures about people playing sport up there, and it's still
good to see in this day and age that people
go into we can still participate.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Quite us stunning some of those figures.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Andy. They said that up to eighty to ninety percent
of of the campus at Lincoln University actually uses the
sports facilities with the average and every other New Zealand
university is in the thirties. And they also revealed the
figures that I had known before that the employment rate
for Lincoln graduate is the highest of any university, sitting
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around eighty three to eighty five percent. So you know,
it turns out a well rounded, written, well rounded young adult.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So a lot of the people you went too Lincoln
with did they go into rural as such, into farming
and still farming, but on a can.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
At the time I went through, when those med eight,
you was two or three clear choices. You're going to
do valuation, you were going to work for the Royal Bank,
or you're going to go farming. And to be honest,
the guys that I went through with, very few of
them actually ended up farming because some of the agribusiness
opportunities are finance. Banking actually presented a bigger opportunity, so
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very few of us still farming.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Were you at Dibby?
Speaker 7 (12:56):
I was an adcom great debate last night from Jamie.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
But Master just peeked his head out of his two
handed two fingers stabbing on the keyboard.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
I was at Colmber, Andy because it let me have
it at you're out with Coy, let me have an
extra year at Lincoln and I love that time. So
that was the advantage of the air Colm. You've got
to spend longer there.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, when you're talking to your old compa, isn't that
When they look at the rural industry these days, how
do they perceive it?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I mean, we're going through good times. Yes, there are rissues,
but there's a lot of positives you can dwell on.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Andy.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
This is the most positive farming year I've ever had.
And it's a bit ironic that, you know, two years
after the most challenging financial year I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And hey, it's just great to be a sheep and beef.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Farmer at the moment, and the optimism that I'm that
I'm hearing from everybody up here is really great. Nice
to celebrate and live in that moment, but I will
temper it. You know, you often say I'm a bit,
a bit of a pessimist with these things. You know
what I read that's coming our way very very shortly,
resupply chain, recontainers, re Singapore shipping. I think we're in
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for quite a challenge environment for both for any of
very export.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That's what I was hearing before about supply chains and
what's happening in the Middle East and ultimately what effect
that has on us. And there's going to be.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
A bit wouldn't you say, Oh, I think it's massive.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
It's actually shipping companies with a constrained options that they
want to actually come to New zealand how do we
move product.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
There's a shortage of containers.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Most of our product goes through Singapore, and I think
if you want to look into the average field days
left in Singapore, you would actually be a little horrified.
And so, you know, I'll go back to my pessimists
hat and say that I think we're in for some
a little bit of challenging pricing, which is a real pity.
You know, we're so vulnerable to those externals that we
don't have any control over.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So We're just going to see that flow on to
the schedules and the works. Perhaps because of the world situation.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I think that's well, that's where you'll obviously see it,
you know, and you've got to make those people leading
those companies have got to make a decision in real
time and you can't wait for you can't wait as
it has happened in the past. You've got to react immediately.
And I think that's what we'll be seeing.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Or does this present an opportunity for New Zealand being
a at the bottom of the world that perhaps we
can be looked at as a trading nation that people
want to deal with a bit more as a result
what's going on.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Does that come into the equation perhaps, Andy, they may
want our product, they may love a product, but you've
still got to move it. And and that's a big
vulnerability supply chain is you know that supply chain logistics.
Don't underestimate that, underestimate the challenge, so you reckon works, the.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Spring schedules and everything. Everyone's talking.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
These fantastic figures just need to come to farm.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
No.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
I think it all goes down to the duration of
that war, and that's going on at the moment, you know,
That's that's absolutely the pivotal thing.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
What the duration is going to be.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Realistically, Donald Trump's Donald Trump is only your tweets away
from either escalating escalating you. That's that's the reality of
what we're having to face. And it's a world situation.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
No, you'd have to argue if he actually actually knows
what the situation is and it is he being fed
the real situation not. Hey, we all can go into
this politics, but it's it's a bit ugly at the moment.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Andy.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Now, as far as you're coming up to I want
to show you're a bit of regular for quite a
few years.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yeah, I've been in the Alliance tent for the last
twelve years, so there's a certain freedom and just getting
out of that ten to being able to wander around.
And we have actually have had years when we've brought
our livestock up here to show it too. But we
had a great we had a great time at the
Wide Movie Field days. So this is just a chance
to get up and relax and look around the show
with Bridget.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So you're just wandering around giving a free feed from here,
there and everywhere because you can now.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
And lots of free feeds and you know how that's
the benefit of being a shareholder, so you know, maybe
that's my pool payment from Balance and Farmlands and Alliance.
That's I'll enjoy the hospitality today. Yeah, fair enough, just
scround conditions as well as well. Sorry Willow Bank, how
are you looking, bearing of mind? Not that far away
from you. It's pretty dry in someplaces. Yes, it's been dry,
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and then we've got some good rainfalls, so we're green.
But there's not a lot of feed ahead. So we
will actually personally be looking at some of those store options.
You're at the time of the year when doesn't quite
make sense, but you can actually kill some you can
actually sell some lighter animals than you can actually kill
them for people that need that for the winter kill.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So we'll be looking at that opportunity this week. So
a majority of your ambs, have you got them gone?
Speaker 7 (17:06):
No, but the big majority by the end of this
next week, we'll hopefully you've gone andy and we'll put
that feed into the US for next year's productions.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
What's your line schedule at the moment, it's a little.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Bit sub eleven dollars, so you know, if you're getting
an eighteen kilo LAMB. You're looking at two hundred dollars
two hundred dollars plus. It's really good compared with what
have budgets have on fun budgets were only four or
five months ago.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I leave you with this sort as well. Alliance
no longer publishing the schedule. We've talked about this in
the past. You're saying, yeah, I get the rest now
behind it. Do do you think Very needs to be
a bit more transparency as far as scheduling and pricing
for farmers?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
I think it's completely transparent if you're an Alliance supply,
because all you've got to do is talk to your agent.
So it's just we're not signaling to everyone else, just
as a lot of those other companies don't signal to
Alliance what they're pricing schedulers.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So you think everybody was facing their schedule for Alliance
is putting out.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Oh, I think there's an element to that, Andy and
you know that. So they're running their own ship now
the new the management have decided that's the way to
do it, and I can freely get what my schedule
is just with with my relationship with my agent.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So in terms of that, nothing's really changed at all.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, fair enough, right, we'll let you carry on. Always
appreciate your time, go at your house in lunch. Cheers, Andy,
appreciate Dom Morrison, wallow Bank farmer and former Alliance board director.
About to go and get a feed and tell you
what the weather here is stifling.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It's in the mid twenties or whatever. And yeah we
carry on though the time is where are we anyway?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Twenty six after one that next, Murray Cobra and from
Mainland Minerals.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
This is the Muster on the road at the one
a ker amp Show.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
The Muster with Andy Muir. Thanks to Peter's Genetics. Every
trip means quite a bit when it's from Peter's Genetics.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Annoy with me, I know, and.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Remember coming up bang on one thirty.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
This is the Muster on Hokkanui live at the Wanica
Amp Show. Murray Cobra and the Mainland Minerals joins us next.
Good afternoon, good afternoon, what a lovely day here in w.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's a beautiful day, may I say you?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Look? It was so much like an air traffic controller.
If you're a splendent hat, you speak to boss and
your little mic when you're.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Hear very much. Does a plane coming as we speak.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, there probably is. It works for you guys, give
you do the top dressing? Hey, well like a show.
You've been a long time advocate on it.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Oh yeah, it was well before my time, and I've
been just coming up twenty years. So yeah, it's thirty five,
maybe forty years will be coming. Yeah, it's been a
long time. I hope it's been going that long, but
I know it's been one heak of a time.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Kevin. You's come along to it for many years before
my time.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
It's evolved a long time. It's evolved a long way
as well.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Oh absolutely. It's just it's an incredible show, isn't it.
It's just I was.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Talking to some guys just before this saying, as they've
changed it up quite a bit this year, but they
were saying it's a little bit different and not so sure,
but then they were saying some really really good things up.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
No, just it's a great way to just catch up socially,
isn't it. You know, everyone comes to town and get
a bit of time out and yeah, awesome, Well.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Half your clients from South will be up here, anyway,
like Jamie said, everybody from south and pretty much coming
right for the weekend.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Correct, they're all they're all popping in for a catch
up and we're having good catch up with them and
lots of Central Tago and Coastal Tago clients.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
So it's a it's a great way to reconnect.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
And while people are pretty laid back, sort of a
sort of a kin to being at your wedding for
two days in a row, you're always catching up with fee.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
It's a bit of a blur, isn't it. But it's good fun. Yeah,
it's a bit like.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Way movie was, but looks mainly minerals. How's everything been lately?
You made a few challenges in the farming landscape. We're
talking about supply chains and that. But what are we
seeing with you guys?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's gone.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
It's it's gone ballistic at the moment, it really is.
It was you know that spring was challenging, so we're
playing a lot of catch up with the with the maintenance.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
But yeah, right now it was with the last last
month six weeks. It's just people would be pulling.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
The trugger with their maintenance and a lot of shep
beef guys that have that have gone quiet in the
last few years for obvious reason. So so that's really good.
And you know, we've got our existing guys and we're
getting a lot of new guys on board, which is
really exciting in the dairy space and also in the
sheep and beef so and dere so. So it's gone
really good. It's just it's i know, it's a the
key thing at the moment.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
It's bit of a log jam.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Were just it's you know, the works backing up and
we're just we're trying to nail as quick as we can.
We've got really really good applicators. Planes down and we'll
be down about three or four more times. The trucks
are going full on, so they're getting it done and bit.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Of helly work as well.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
So and the granular is flying out the door too
as the granular guys into it as well as a
fine particle.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So we found a lot of people who haven't done
maintenance over the past couple of seasons. They're getting back
on board now.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
They you know, for the people held off on one
was the wet spring to it was they just weren't
entirely sure that all the good stories about where the
price is going to be, we're actually going to eventuate
and you've been there, Andy, so it's you know, you
never quite know if that's going to be the case
and something might just change. And but now people were
just getting blind away with what they're getting with incomes.
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They know what we do is great. They trust us,
so they just just get au together and get on
with it.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And the reasoning is Howie Morrison before was just playing
it for straight back. Wasn't prepared to say yes straight
at the moment. But these challenges ahead, do you think
of the moment, we just need to celebrate the positives
that are going on in the sector, all things considered.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Oh, I mean, you know, the big topical thing is
the Iranian war at the moment. But I think I
was saying to you earlier when just on the radio
with another outfit they were talking about just god, the
guy did the classic comment just panic slowly, and I
think that's correct. I think, you know, it kind of
got you know, ironically, I was talking to some people
(22:35):
about the coming coming here. I think it was twenty
and twenty, and that was when the COVID thing was
topical at want of a show when they had those
issues with that. And you know, we've got that little
bit of a feel at the moment. But if you
just you know, just just take a breath, move on,
hopefully and just let it play out and hopefully it's
going to turn out better than we think. But but
(22:58):
you know, humans are very adaptable, adoubtable. People still need
to eat. We need that. We need the food on
the tables, and we've got a very good product. And
people want they want something from a from a great place.
They know New Zealand's a great place.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Are you seeing a change in farming dynamics or such
because of the urban sprawl in an area? Lot Wanica
affected too better.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Well, it's you know, it's gets logistically, yeah, getting through
some of these towns now on the way to the work,
you get a few more guys stopping looking at the
plane the helicopter. But uh and and look at probably
the probably the main thing, Andy, is the with what
we do with the with the fine particle fertilizer less
less water soil will phosphorus, less water soil will we
(23:40):
nine water soil will sulfur. Better utilization of the recyc
down nutrient with the biology that we get, we activate
and and so we're making sure that our clients are
getting product that's not going into the waterways, into the
and I'm I'm a really I'm a big believer in
Lake Wanica and Waktapoo all these region how we're to
(24:02):
have a better solution that's not actually ending up fosterhus
as a key to creating algae in the in the waterways.
We want to look after that. One of my key
things that that's dear to my heart, and we got
a lot of a lot of clients up around these
lakes is looking after those guys long term sustainability side
of it and making sure those guys are good.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
That's real. It's a real key message you bring out
there that people are actually looking at the environmental impacts
and what they're doing.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Oh, absolutely absolutely, it's and they've got a bit more
i'd say, a little bit more scope now to look
outside the box because they you know, there's a margin
there to make it work. So they're doing they are
looking at some of these options now that in the
past there we're probably a bit more hamstrung couldn't couldn't
act on it. Now they're having a crack and they
going with guys like us, and we're overswing and we're
(24:46):
getting more more grazing area into into production, not just
the stock camps. We're grazing hund percent of the blocks
and not letting the new chine go on into the waterways.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Because what are your key phrases? I'll just you've got
a couple like your line, what is it? You're only
as good as you do.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
But understanding soil biology, that's a term you wouldn't have
heard thirty years ago or so.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
No, no, well, well, you know, like the three the
three leagues on the stool, you got, you've got your
biological side of it, you've got your physical side of
your chemical nutrient side of it. So you know, just
think back to school with the three science as you did. Well,
you know, when I got involved, there was so much
focus on just.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
P and P and S and agline. That was it.
That's all you need. But if you've got stock that.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Aren't performing and good grass, you want to make sure
you look after those other areas and just see where
else it might be an issue. And that's what we're
really really good at diagnosing and getting a better solution
out of good value for money.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So events like this, I suppose few business as well.
I'm putting a monetary value on us, you know. It's
it's like what we move we I suppose, like a
lot of businesses say, if I'm not there, the opposition
are So the show circuit, it plays a big thing
down here, especially for.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
The it does.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
And and like I'd be the first one to say that,
I've been tempted to pull right out of its. Social
media is a good way to to u you know,
to promote ourselves. But but you know, the radio side
of it dir't sorry's getting on the radio, but the
things like the radio on the marketing, but but also
getting out to having.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
A chat to guys at these shows.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
You're just even your existing guys reconnecting when they when
they relaxed. That's that's great, that's that's you can't put
a value on that. So it actually turns out really well.
They bring their mates and you get your own into
bloody good.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
The social media is a big deal now.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Oh it's going great, and I think I was talking
about this morning.
Speaker 8 (26:27):
We're getting guys that are rocking and saying, hey, I
want you guys to a fertilizer and that that wouldn't
happen when I first started. It's kind of like they
were trying to stay away from a tent because who
are those weirdos? But now they're actually going these guys
know what they're talking about. They're going to help us.
They're going to give us good service, and they're going
to give us a good product, and they're going to
get us a bloody good result for the for the
money we spent. So that's that's been gold, you know.
That's that's seems to be working.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Murray Cobra and soon to be a TikTok starff.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I don't think so, no shit, No, I try to
stay off it. But yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm never
going to go on that. Suppose Andy there's not more
full team? Yeah no, I can't that.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Hey, good on your Murray, Always appreciate your time, Go and.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Enjoy the say field day. It's just ingrained amp show.
Always good to catch up.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah and you good to talk to.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You, Murray Cobra and of Mainland Minerals. This is the muster.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
The time is twenty two minutes away from two miles.
Anderson is in p for wait Techie we catch up
next twenty minutes away from two but at Jason Derula
on a Friday afternoon MK. Of course, Mark Kelly producing
the must of this afternoon. Of course, we're coming live
from the Wonica a MP show. Miles Anderson joins me next.
(27:38):
I was about to call you Miles Hurrel, but not
the case.
Speaker 9 (27:42):
I don't earn enough to be.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Of course, m P forlewait Techy.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
We caught up with you with Joseph Mooney not that
long ago down in Gorse. So thanks for joining us
on the must have made And of course this is your.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Elite trip yep.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Beautiful part of the country. So what techi is a
huge elect trip? We go from the Ring all the
way down to here and Cromwell sort of zig zag
ground Clyde and Alex and then come out on the
coast halfway between Wackawhite and Palmerston.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
What does it change like that? It just seems like
having to drive like a big zig zag to get
around things when transparency will suggest just make a straight right.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Look it's to do with Every five years there's a
population census. They add up the population of the South Island,
divide it by sixteen and that's how many electorates there are,
or how many people are in an electorate, and so
what they do then is adjust boundaries to fit that
number of people in an electorate. And so coming up
(28:43):
in November, for example, they lose one electorate in the
North Island because the South Island has grown comparatively faster.
And so nowadays we've got seventy one thousand people in
an electorate. Back when MMP first came in and there
was fifty one thousands.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I'm still trying to figure out how the Chattam Islands
comes under wrong atype.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
Yeah, and so are they I think, Yeah, it used
to be part of Being's peninsula.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, I mean talk about having an identity crisis.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. I think the smaller debate in
the in the argument over where they should go.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So, hey, you've had quite a big week, haven't you. Yes,
big week as far as what was it you got
a link to the other day.
Speaker 9 (29:30):
So the new chair of the Primary Production SELEC Committee,
and that's it's a bit of sad story in some
ways because Mark Cameron, the previous cheer, has been very
ill and has he's on leave really from Parliament waiting
(29:51):
for a kidney transplant, and he's had some complications with that.
That means that if he really can' the Parliament and
risks catching any bug, he could really be in serious trouble.
But anyway, so I wish him all the best because.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So, but what's your major role in that? There just
got people a bit of an insight.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
So the.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
Various they are thirteen selectmenies in Parliament and they split
up to look over various issues. So, for example, there's
a Social Services Select Committee, which Joseph Mooney is the
chair of his primary production, so we look at fishing, forestry, farming,
there's the health et cetera, et cetera. So that the
(30:40):
various policies are broken down into various select committees. When
a piece of legislation is going through the House that
relates to that select committee, that select committee is the
one that looks at that legislation, here's the hearings and
(31:00):
makes the changes to this. To the Lieg.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Select committee is a real buzzword for parliament.
Speaker 9 (31:05):
Well, select committee is actually probably seventy percent of my
work in Parliament. So what you see on TV in
the House that's probably only five to ten percent of
members work.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Well, that's probably a big thing that people that understand
the work that actually goes on in Parliament with these
committees and the lights will be interesting to see that
I wouldn't say transparency, but a bit more understanding of
what actually goes on.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Correct.
Speaker 9 (31:30):
And most of those Select committee proceedings are available on
Parliament website when and you can see what's happening at
the various committees, but most people don't because it's not sexy,
I suppose any But that's actually the real most important
part of the job I've got when I'm in Parliament.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Now you've got Davy, you know, kind of going up
against you in the upcoming of links and he's got
his resplendid Red Jersey on today.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
See Carpetbagger been cooling him. Look, I find it quite
amusing that Damien via Dunedin x West Coast is standing
in the Wye Tachi. So it probably indicates to me
that nobody else in the Labor Party wanted to stand
(32:21):
in the electric.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
But that's just the nature of the b So how
many MP's that live outside of their electric these days?
Speaker 9 (32:28):
Not many, but Labor have a few a bit about
that is there ready, I don't think so. I think
I could be wrong, you could, but I'm pretty sure
that we all live within our electorates.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, because that's a big thing for constituents.
Speaker 9 (32:44):
I suppose I think so. And look, Kiwis are pretty parochial.
They don't really like people from outside the area coming
in to stand in constituencies. But you know, Tyree's got
Larry and she seems to spend more time on more
Hickey Island that she does in the Tiri hilleterate, so
(33:08):
we do give her a hard time in parliament call
or the MP for or Hickey. So but you know,
I think Labor figured they could put anyone in there
and they'd still win the seat.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You guys have a whale of a time, and there's
sometimes and let's be honest, you just watched the bites
that come out.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
And yeah, look, there's some very humorous moments within Parliament
when some of those bills are going through and members
are standing up and giving their view on a particular bill,
and there's a lot of sledging. I suppose you'd call
it andy, and it's part of the fun. But it
(33:43):
also keeps you awake because if you just set there
listening to a lot of the speeches, you fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I go back to John Key, and Jamie'll correctly if
I'm wrong. Here we still hear typing with two fingers,
but it's about John Key does a cap that match
the curtains comment?
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah yeah. There are all sorts of
comments like that. A lot of people probably don't hear
on the audio, but someone will say something that's very
pertinent and witty. If they're not witty, they're not worth
repeating anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
So what's the biggest thing you've learned from this term
as an MP?
Speaker 9 (34:18):
I think what I've learned is that there's a lot
more to putting making legislation than I thought the time
time wise. I think people think that, oh, well, you're
going to go in, you're going to change the law
on something, put in your own version of that law. Well,
(34:41):
that actually takes years, because first of all, the idea
has to be turned into legislator to go through and
then correct, and then it has to get on the
order paper, and then it has to go through the
first reading, go through the selectmmittee. All these things take time,
and a lot of people come up to me and said,
(35:01):
how come we can't just do what Donald Trump does
and put in executive orders? And I said, well, that's
because our democracy doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Hey, and just on Donald Trump. We're talking about the
situation in the Middle East. These stations supposedly run running
dry fuel up in the North Island. Up in North Island, Well,
have you heard anything around fuel wrestling?
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Not?
Speaker 9 (35:22):
No, there's obviously there was announcement yesterday around forming a
group that's going to look in all sorts of possibilities.
But I got to remember there's twenty eight days of
fuel on the water as we speak, so we have
about fifty days of fuel supply up at sleeve. And
(35:42):
history would tell us if you look back at the
first Gulf War, yes there was disruption, but after that
the price ball actually plummeted. So who knows what's going
to happen? I mean the hardest part is because I
guess there's no one knows what president is going to
be doing next, let alone President Trump. So that that's
(36:04):
the difficult. Party hasn't clearly articulated what is the end gamers.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Because the situation Australia is well everything I suppose it's
escalating daily.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Yeah, yeah, and yeah, look, it's sort of new territory
for all of us in some ways. And you know,
we can only do so much. And and it certainly
does highlight the fact that we need fuel security here.
If we had more of our own natural gas and petroleum,
(36:38):
then we wouldn't be at the whim of overseas markets
as much.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
So that's the case of looking forward knocked backward. What
happened to Marson points happened.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
Yes, that's true. And but also exploration wise, I think
we need to make sure that we're encouraging offshore and
onshore exploration in hydrocarbons. I think, you know, long term
we still need them. Yeah, And it's it's a very
apparent now when fuel prices are hitting three dollars that
(37:12):
if we had a surety of supply, that perhaps the
market wouldn't react this way.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Hey, good on your Miles, Thanks for coming in. You
go back.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
You'll have a busy afternoon, so will you get back
to today.
Speaker 9 (37:21):
It's good to see Andy. You take care, yes, and
given's life, Yes, right mate, that's.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Right, Miles Anderson m p for wait techie, this is
the muster coming to your Live from the wait Wonica
a MP Show. Up next, Tim Sharpen from Telford Time
ten to two.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
The Muster with Andy Muir Thanks to Peter's Genetics, every
drop means quite a lot when it's from Peter's Genetics.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Welcome back to the Muster. The time is eight minutes
away from to Andy Muley here, coming to your Live
from the Wonica a MP show. Next to go to
chat with Tim Sharpen of Telford met Learning for.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
He down South. He's made the trek over to Wonka
for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Good afternoon, Great to chat.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Good afternoon, Andy.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Now I've spoken to the team from Telford in the past.
I spoke to them I think it was last year
from Upper Mystery Creek and just spreading the word of talent.
Hell things going.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
There, Yeah, very well, very well.
Speaker 10 (38:15):
We've got overrated students this year, which is an incredible
number considering what we've been through in the everyone's been
through in the last five or six years.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
So things are looking very positive.
Speaker 10 (38:26):
We've had a lot of changes, we have, and we've
had a lot of different people or different companies or
outfits in charge. So we're settled with S I. T.
And it's working exceptionally. Well, oh it's.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Good to hear because these learning facilities there seems to
be a lot of young people still wanting to get
into the industry as such the same.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Yes, yeah, there is, and and they're wanting to clip
a ticket.
Speaker 10 (38:49):
They needed, you know, to get a qualification to help
them on the way.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So what are you guys doing here as such? You've
got a stall, is that right?
Speaker 10 (38:58):
Yeah, So we've got to stall and just promoting Telford
for probably students that are so the minimum age of
sixteen years and for those students who want to do
level three to level five because we also do the
massive diploma of course for this second year students or
students that have got the quolls to do it.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
So the buy in's still there from the young people.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
That's what a bull it does, definitely.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Because that's one thing I speak to young farmers on
a regular basis. I believe you guys are involved with
Clinton Young Farmers cut as well, and just the feedback
to get regarding it. And there's young people for the
sect of the passions.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
There, Yes, it is definitely.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
So we've got a group of students up here this
week helping out the show, helping Mike Elliott and doing
all the hard yard stuff in the morning and helping
with the dog trolls.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
So they're having a buzz. They're here for a couple
of days.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
So it's a bit of a work experience thing.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Network that's what.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
It's all about, out of any name out there, so
it's good to hear and it's a great thing we
got to a yesterday. I mean, for everything going on
in the sector at the moment, these other things we
talked about JEO politically aside, I mean, just young people
wanted to get involved in farming.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Not that many years ago.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
It seemed to be a bit of a drop off
they did, and yeah, for various reasons.
Speaker 10 (40:20):
I mean that kids have got a lot of choice,
but they've come back to it and we're really encouraged.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
What happens with the farming system students is we've.
Speaker 10 (40:30):
Got farmer hosts based throughout a target in south and
and they get the opportunity to go out there.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
It's various stages during the year and work.
Speaker 10 (40:39):
For those farmer hosts and that is that networking thing
and they get encouragement from that from the farmer hosts.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So they're still a good percentage of students picking up.
Speaker 10 (40:48):
A job for a year out absolutely how high would
the uptake be if I go and look at the
diploma students last year, of which there was twelve or thirteen,
there was.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
That's good, It's pretty You can't get any better than
I and most of it.
Speaker 10 (41:02):
I haven't tracked the farming systems once because some came back.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
I would say, well over fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
It's a competition for students.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
How do you negate that? Because that's the nature of
the beast.
Speaker 10 (41:13):
We are quite unique in the fact that there's a
pastoral care facility, which is important, and we are actually
targeting students more so that don't want to go onto tertiary.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
And of course Ali Rocksburgh's there as well. I mean
anybody in the rural game. He's dealt with telfit and
getting someone to come and do it, a work experience
that works through Alley over the years. So he's got
an amazing wooden network of farmers and he is now
the campus manager, so he's looking after the students on
campus as well.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
So the big thing for you.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Guys, I suppose it's just coming to these shows We
talked about it with Murray before and it just gives
you exposure.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
We had a Southern field days only a.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Few weeks ago as well, so it just reiterates what
is a big week for a lot of people getting
about at the field.
Speaker 10 (42:00):
And why why Mom and will also be at Mystery
Creek as well.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Yeah, so flying the flag.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Mystery Creek works really well for you guys.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Remember speaking to the team and the amount of people
that came along and we just see the feedback, especially
from people from Northland for something.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Yes, yeah, we've always.
Speaker 10 (42:16):
Had a good representation for Northland and that's word of
mouth as well. Yeah, you know, three or four members
of the same family all coming down.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
It's great.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Hey, you get on your term. Thanks for coming in.
Appreciate it. You guys are here for doing a great
job for the rural sector of getting young people involve,
so appreciate the time this afternoon.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Jeers, Thanks very much.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
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Farmland Site at the Wonka amp Show. My name's Andy Muer.
Thanks for your company. The weather down south, it sounds
though it was raining first thing. It has cleared up.
We look at the weather shortly. But here up in
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central to Tago, it's one of those phenomenons. As soon
as you hit the road that takes you to the
main drag through the Rais junction and the likes I reckon,
the temperature goes up ten degrees and it was about
twenty four to twenty five on the way up here yesterday.
And yeah, just central Targo vibes. We've got plenty to
get through for the hour. Firstly, we're going to give
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westerlies eleven and seventeen Sunday pretty much the same, cloudy
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ten and eighteen and Tuesday cloudy with calm variable wins
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eleven and twenties stays overnight lows are still playing ball.
So tempages now to speak off today couldn't download them
for whatever reason. And just as well, I shout out
to Sheerwell, New Zealand. Alan mcare at McCleary and co.
They are at They are at the show, but they're
going to be here tomorrow. So Allen and Co. They've
got the site here raise here today. Allen's going to
be on site tomorrow on the show this afternoon. But
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to get through actually Jamie McKay former South and B
fullback in the Country Crossover and we start the hour
very surely.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
A bit a bit of payback here on Jamie after
last night.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Egret Away just hold your horses here, DoD Morrison, Willowbank
farmer and organizing this dinner last night which all went
back to Lincoln Sports Foundation as such. Murray Cobra and
the Mainland minerals Miles Anderson and Joseph Mooney, respective MPs
for Watachi and Southland. We just have we talk about
the situation regarding the fuel what's happening there. This is
(02:04):
moving by the yell, so it seems hearing about this
situation of station's up north panic buying seems to be
the result. Tim Sharpan of Telford based out of Balcluster,
We're gonna have a bit of a chin wag. Always
good to catch up with those guys. What's happening with
young people getting into the industry and possibly Jeff Grant
not too sure yet, but we'll play that one by air,
(02:26):
but without further ado, we'll crack on with things. Jamie
mckue starts off next. This is the Muster Live at
the Upper Luther Show, Wanaka showed time six after one.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Welcome back to the Muster on Hakanui.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Coming to you live from the Wanaka Show out of
the Farmland site. Jamie McKay joins us now in the
Country Crossover. Jamie, Good, afternoon. We went to the fundraiser
last night for Lincoln University. It was a pretty cool evening.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, really enjoyed it actually, Andy and I think some
of the guests that we had on the couch were outstanding.
Obviously Andy Dalton could have chatted to him all night.
Garry's stead. The surprise package for me was perhaps the
second celebrity couch contestants and it was Child Patterson. Muster
(03:21):
listeners will be well aware of child James Patterson, former
went Inside farmer and of course Alan Dippy what an
interesting guy he is. And the other guy's Timbo Morris Deeker,
who's a relation of your next guest, Donald Morrison. And
apparently he's like the biggest thing in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Whine.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I had no idea who the bloke was, but him
and old Alan Dippy had a good debate over politics.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
In the end. It was fascinating you just listening to
it all unfold. But it's interesting two things that are
dividing one acre at the moment seems to be a
new McDonald's as well as a gold mine.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, well the gold mines are weep it down the.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, central Tiger regions such that.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
But I think how he's a wealthy Southland farmer and
he's got the obligatory holiday home up here as you
would expect. But the thing with it is there's a
wee bit of nimbiism around the gold mine and I
honestly sit in the middle. I can see the environmental disadvantages,
I can see the economic advantages and we're going to
(04:20):
be hopefully in early April, having that live stream debate
between the Prince of the Provinces Shane Jones and Saren Taylor.
And they're both very eloquent men. They're both on opposite
sides of the argument, so it will be really interesting
to see who wins out on that one. In Taylor
very much an entrepreneur, obviously behind animation research, and he
said he's not against gold mining per se, he's against
(04:44):
this gold mine just because of its location.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Shane James, you made the interesting comment last night about
Shane Jason might have been Winston. Actually you think Winston
wants to be PM.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Of course he wants to be PM. He won't be.
I'm sure he won't be. But put it. I'll throw
a scenario at you. New Zealand First polls really well.
National have get cannibalized a bit from both sides. National
and act, and National will act in New Zealand First.
National will need to improve their polling. But if they
(05:16):
got to some sort of scenario and this is doomsday
worst case scenario, Bill English, two thousand and two, when
National and how he's nodding his head here, they polled
as low as twenty two percent. Helen Clark kicked their backside.
So I put it to you, if National worst case
scenario was in the low twenties, Winston was in the
(05:38):
mid teens or something like that, an act might have
been nine or ten. All of a sudden, the dynamics
and who's calling the shots changed. Would National step aside
and let Winston be the prime minister just to get
a center right government across the line? I don't know,
but it's certainly the lesser evil, but you never know.
I mean Chippy and Winston. I don't think they can
(06:00):
stand the side of one another, but Winston has changed
sides in the past. Yeah, I've got the need MP's
on shortly.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Do you think this poll last week and a bit
of hysteria went on as a result of it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Any think it's just hysteria as one pole?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, it's one pole and the other poles. National has
been in what the low thirties, but they're still struggling
to get their message across, even though some of their
ministers I think are performing pretty well, like Erica Stanford
and would be a good example obviously in education. Winston
he's not National, of course, but he's doing a really
good job as our Foreign Affairs minister. He's a very
(06:34):
safe set of hands, he's very experienced, and he's got
Shane Jones, the bother a boy going around the country
as the hit man. So they're they're a populist party,
but you know their message resonates with a lot of
New Zealanders. Chippy at the moment is kind of sleep
walking to victory. He's not saying much other than his
capital gains policy. What has he come out with? And
(06:57):
he is just waiting for National to make mistakes rather
and him to come out with policy. He's polling well,
Labor of polling well. But as I said last night,
and I've said it publicly so I'm not afraid to
say it again. The other two coalition partners to Party
Maori and the Greens of these days activist parties. And
I don't think that's the sort of government we want.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's everything you say that because Steve Able, one guy
who seemed to talk really positive about Wall from the Greens,
he's dropped right down the list.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
And Steve Abel we met him at our National ande
barbecue and Wellington and he seems like a nice bloke
and he's certainly a moderate, more moderate than some of
the Greens, so you know, I don't know, but I
mean they're greens. Greens are not pro farming. This right
wing coalition government is pro farming. And we needed it
(07:49):
because for the previous six years, especially the last three
under Dernham Hipkins, and you had David Parker and Damien
and all sorts of people ripping into farmers. Farmers came,
they became villains and they shouldn't have been farming. Got
us through COVID, or got the economy through COVID. And
unless this government recognizes that, and without people like how
(08:12):
he and his mates who are doing the hard yards
of the cold face, our economy would be absolutely stuffed.
So we want to encourage the golden Goose. We don't
want to kill it.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
He's just through In the last hour as well, Matt
McCrae has been elected to the.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Board of Beef and Land.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
That's one of your correspondents.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
He is, he goes good, he sweepsaks.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I enjoy, I enjoy all your farmer correspondents. And I
met I just parents of Jamie King. Oh yeah, and
they brought along PJ. Butler who was the South African
guy who finished out my show. So the thing, as
I finally say about Wanica, and I'm staying with the
Riversdale sheep farmer tonight with Mark and Tania Shallon. But
like the DNA of this place is Southland sheep farmers originally,
(08:55):
probably a few southlandairy farmers now, but half a Wanaica
is populated by Southlanders, which is great. You wander around
here and you can't walk five meters without running into someone,
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, we'll leave it there, but before we do, your
comment last night at the very end of the Lincoln
funnerrais regarding Belfer and females. You just want to quantify that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
No, well, I'm not quite sure that was a bit
of a Shane Jones moment he called Chloe a demonic
egg beater. I just meant it in jest, of course,
but I probably needed to realize that Rachel Stead, of course,
is a porter from Belfa, so it was only tongue
in cheek.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Look, I love Belfer. I used to love beating Belfer
at rugby in the nineteen eighties and I've always loved
Belfer and I think it's just a fantastic satellite village
of Riversdale, the capital of northern South Balfa.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Was only created because even Riversdale needed heroes.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Jack Well, my biggest hero growing up, came from Belfer
Ken Stewart, So we'll leave it. I was gonna say naughty,
Oh well, not well, he's Belfer's most famous icon, but
Kenny Stewart was absolutely my hero.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Right, we'll leave you be, Go and get your nose
in the trough for the afternoon. Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
See Andy, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
McKay and the Country Crossover the Muster on HOCKEYU. You're
coming to you from Oh gee, just don't worry about that. McKay.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Up next, Dohn Howie Morrison on site.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Of course, the time is sixteen after one.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
The Muster with any newer thanks to Peter's Genetics. Every
trip means quite a bit when it's from Peter's genetics.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Though, open what.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Eighteen minutes after one?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
This is the Muster coming to you from the Wonca
Field Days Wonica show. We are based up at you
coming out of the farmland site. Up next, Don Morrison
a Willowbank farmer, former Alliance board director and organized a
pretty good Shingleig last night.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Good hell, we killed it, Andy.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Yeah, we managed to put together a rather stunning night
when in Alan Dippy's tractor shed with some incredible hospitality
and generosity from from Ellen and from his from his
pe who helped us put together so really great night.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's a pretty wicked shed there as far as man's
you know, if you've got a share on that in
your backyard, it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
As a guy, we all love having our sheds Andy,
but when you've got some of that gear and that
was that was really something to see.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So what was the driving force for you getting involved
with Lincoln as such? Obviously being an old boy?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
What was it?
Speaker 7 (11:20):
We had a great get together in May which was
specifically around the Lincoln College Ex Rugby Club, and I
guess was an extension of that. We had a great
we had a great weekend up in christ Church and
decided we needed to spread it out to the provinces
just to go and build on some of those networks.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And we're actually specifically.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Trying to raise some funds for a sports facility available
for all the every sports club at Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
University because it seems to be like listening to the
figures about people playing sport up there, and it's still
good to see in this day and age that people
go into we can still participate.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Quite us stunning some of those figures.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Andy. They said that up to eighty to ninety percent
of of the campus at Lincoln University actually uses the
sports facilities with the average and every other New Zealand
university is in the thirties. And they also revealed the
figures that I had known before that the employment rate
for Lincoln graduate is the highest of any university, sitting
(12:16):
around eighty three to eighty five percent. So you know,
it turns out a well rounded, written, well rounded young adult.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So a lot of the people you went too Lincoln
with did they go into rural as such, into farming
and still farming, but on a can.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
At the time I went through, when those med eight,
you was two or three clear choices. You're going to
do valuation, you were going to work for the Royal Bank,
or you're going to go farming. And to be honest,
the guys that I went through with, very few of
them actually ended up farming because some of the agribusiness
opportunities are finance. Banking actually presented a bigger opportunity, so
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very few of us still farming.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Were you at Dibby?
Speaker 7 (12:56):
I was an adcom great debate last night from Jamie.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
But Master just peeked his head out of his two
handed two fingers stabbing on the keyboard.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
I was at Colmber, Andy because it let me have
it at you're out with Coy, let me have an
extra year at Lincoln and I love that time. So
that was the advantage of the air Colm. You've got
to spend longer there.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, when you're talking to your old compa, isn't that
When they look at the rural industry these days, how
do they perceive it?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I mean, we're going through good times. Yes, there are rissues,
but there's a lot of positives you can dwell on.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Andy.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
This is the most positive farming year I've ever had.
And it's a bit ironic that, you know, two years
after the most challenging financial year I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And hey, it's just great to be a sheep and beef.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Farmer at the moment, and the optimism that I'm that
I'm hearing from everybody up here is really great. Nice
to celebrate and live in that moment, but I will
temper it. You know, you often say I'm a bit,
a bit of a pessimist with these things. You know
what I read that's coming our way very very shortly,
resupply chain, recontainers, re Singapore shipping. I think we're in
(13:56):
for quite a challenge environment for both for any of
very export.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That's what I was hearing before about supply chains and
what's happening in the Middle East and ultimately what effect
that has on us. And there's going to be.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
A bit wouldn't you say, Oh, I think it's massive.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
It's actually shipping companies with a constrained options that they
want to actually come to New zealand how do we
move product.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
There's a shortage of containers.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Most of our product goes through Singapore, and I think
if you want to look into the average field days
left in Singapore, you would actually be a little horrified.
And so, you know, I'll go back to my pessimists
hat and say that I think we're in for some
a little bit of challenging pricing, which is a real pity.
You know, we're so vulnerable to those externals that we
don't have any control over.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So We're just going to see that flow on to
the schedules and the works. Perhaps because of the world situation.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I think that's well, that's where you'll obviously see it,
you know, and you've got to make those people leading
those companies have got to make a decision in real
time and you can't wait for you can't wait as
it has happened in the past. You've got to react immediately.
And I think that's what we'll be seeing.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Or does this present an opportunity for New Zealand being
a at the bottom of the world that perhaps we
can be looked at as a trading nation that people
want to deal with a bit more as a result
what's going on.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Does that come into the equation perhaps, Andy, they may
want our product, they may love a product, but you've
still got to move it. And and that's a big
vulnerability supply chain is you know that supply chain logistics.
Don't underestimate that, underestimate the challenge, so you reckon works, the.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Spring schedules and everything. Everyone's talking.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
These fantastic figures just need to come to farm.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
No.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
I think it all goes down to the duration of
that war, and that's going on at the moment, you know,
That's that's absolutely the pivotal thing.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
What the duration is going to be.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Realistically, Donald Trump's Donald Trump is only your tweets away
from either escalating escalating you. That's that's the reality of
what we're having to face. And it's a world situation.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
No, you'd have to argue if he actually actually knows
what the situation is and it is he being fed
the real situation not. Hey, we all can go into
this politics, but it's it's a bit ugly at the moment.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Andy.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Now, as far as you're coming up to I want
to show you're a bit of regular for quite a
few years.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yeah, I've been in the Alliance tent for the last
twelve years, so there's a certain freedom and just getting
out of that ten to being able to wander around.
And we have actually have had years when we've brought
our livestock up here to show it too. But we
had a great we had a great time at the
Wide Movie Field days. So this is just a chance
to get up and relax and look around the show
with Bridget.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So you're just wandering around giving a free feed from here,
there and everywhere because you can now.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
And lots of free feeds and you know how that's
the benefit of being a shareholder, so you know, maybe
that's my pool payment from Balance and Farmlands and Alliance.
That's I'll enjoy the hospitality today. Yeah, fair enough, just
scround conditions as well as well. Sorry Willow Bank, how
are you looking, bearing of mind? Not that far away
from you. It's pretty dry in someplaces. Yes, it's been dry,
(16:44):
and then we've got some good rainfalls, so we're green.
But there's not a lot of feed ahead. So we
will actually personally be looking at some of those store options.
You're at the time of the year when doesn't quite
make sense, but you can actually kill some you can
actually sell some lighter animals than you can actually kill
them for people that need that for the winter kill.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So we'll be looking at that opportunity this week. So
a majority of your ambs, have you got them gone?
Speaker 7 (17:06):
No, but the big majority by the end of this
next week, we'll hopefully you've gone andy and we'll put
that feed into the US for next year's productions.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
What's your line schedule at the moment, it's a little.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Bit sub eleven dollars, so you know, if you're getting
an eighteen kilo LAMB. You're looking at two hundred dollars
two hundred dollars plus. It's really good compared with what
have budgets have on fun budgets were only four or
five months ago.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I leave you with this sort as well. Alliance
no longer publishing the schedule. We've talked about this in
the past. You're saying, yeah, I get the rest now
behind it. Do do you think Very needs to be
a bit more transparency as far as scheduling and pricing
for farmers?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
I think it's completely transparent if you're an Alliance supply,
because all you've got to do is talk to your agent.
So it's just we're not signaling to everyone else, just
as a lot of those other companies don't signal to
Alliance what they're pricing schedulers.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So you think everybody was facing their schedule for Alliance
is putting out.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Oh, I think there's an element to that, Andy and
you know that. So they're running their own ship now
the new the management have decided that's the way to
do it, and I can freely get what my schedule
is just with with my relationship with my agent.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So in terms of that, nothing's really changed at all.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, fair enough, right, we'll let you carry on. Always
appreciate your time, go at your house in lunch. Cheers, Andy,
appreciate Dom Morrison, wallow Bank farmer and former Alliance board director.
About to go and get a feed and tell you
what the weather here is stifling.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It's in the mid twenties or whatever. And yeah we
carry on though the time is where are we anyway?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Twenty six after one that next, Murray Cobra and from
Mainland Minerals.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
This is the Muster on the road at the one
a ker amp Show.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
The Muster with Andy Muir. Thanks to Peter's Genetics. Every
trip means quite a bit when it's from Peter's Genetics.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Annoy with me, I know, and.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Remember coming up bang on one thirty.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
This is the Muster on Hokkanui live at the Wanica
Amp Show. Murray Cobra and the Mainland Minerals joins us next.
Good afternoon, good afternoon, what a lovely day here in w.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's a beautiful day, may I say you?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Look? It was so much like an air traffic controller.
If you're a splendent hat, you speak to boss and
your little mic when you're.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Hear very much. Does a plane coming as we speak.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well, there probably is. It works for you guys, give
you do the top dressing? Hey, well like a show.
You've been a long time advocate on it.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Oh yeah, it was well before my time, and I've
been just coming up twenty years. So yeah, it's thirty five,
maybe forty years will be coming. Yeah, it's been a
long time. I hope it's been going that long, but
I know it's been one heak of a time.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Kevin. You's come along to it for many years before
my time.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
It's evolved a long time. It's evolved a long way
as well.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Oh absolutely. It's just it's an incredible show, isn't it.
It's just I was.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Talking to some guys just before this saying, as they've
changed it up quite a bit this year, but they
were saying it's a little bit different and not so sure,
but then they were saying some really really good things up.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
No, just it's a great way to just catch up socially,
isn't it. You know, everyone comes to town and get
a bit of time out and yeah, awesome, Well.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Half your clients from South will be up here, anyway,
like Jamie said, everybody from south and pretty much coming
right for the weekend.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Correct, they're all they're all popping in for a catch
up and we're having good catch up with them and
lots of Central Tago and Coastal Tago clients.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
So it's a it's a great way to reconnect.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
And while people are pretty laid back, sort of a
sort of a kin to being at your wedding for
two days in a row, you're always catching up with fee.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
It's a bit of a blur, isn't it. But it's good fun. Yeah,
it's a bit like.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Way movie was, but looks mainly minerals. How's everything been lately?
You made a few challenges in the farming landscape. We're
talking about supply chains and that. But what are we
seeing with you guys?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's gone.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
It's it's gone ballistic at the moment, it really is.
It was you know that spring was challenging, so we're
playing a lot of catch up with the with the maintenance.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
But yeah, right now it was with the last last
month six weeks. It's just people would be pulling.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
The trugger with their maintenance and a lot of shep
beef guys that have that have gone quiet in the
last few years for obvious reason. So so that's really good.
And you know, we've got our existing guys and we're
getting a lot of new guys on board, which is
really exciting in the dairy space and also in the
sheep and beef so and dere so. So it's gone
really good. It's just it's i know, it's a the
key thing at the moment.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
It's bit of a log jam.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Were just it's you know, the works backing up and
we're just we're trying to nail as quick as we can.
We've got really really good applicators. Planes down and we'll
be down about three or four more times. The trucks
are going full on, so they're getting it done and bit.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Of helly work as well.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
So and the granular is flying out the door too
as the granular guys into it as well as a
fine particle.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So we found a lot of people who haven't done
maintenance over the past couple of seasons. They're getting back
on board now.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
They you know, for the people held off on one
was the wet spring to it was they just weren't
entirely sure that all the good stories about where the
price is going to be, we're actually going to eventuate
and you've been there, Andy, so it's you know, you
never quite know if that's going to be the case
and something might just change. And but now people were
just getting blind away with what they're getting with incomes.
(21:56):
They know what we do is great. They trust us,
so they just just get au together and get on
with it.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And the reasoning is Howie Morrison before was just playing
it for straight back. Wasn't prepared to say yes straight
at the moment. But these challenges ahead, do you think
of the moment, we just need to celebrate the positives
that are going on in the sector, all things considered.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Oh, I mean, you know, the big topical thing is
the Iranian war at the moment. But I think I
was saying to you earlier when just on the radio
with another outfit they were talking about just god, the
guy did the classic comment just panic slowly, and I
think that's correct. I think, you know, it kind of
got you know, ironically, I was talking to some people
(22:35):
about the coming coming here. I think it was twenty
and twenty, and that was when the COVID thing was
topical at want of a show when they had those
issues with that. And you know, we've got that little
bit of a feel at the moment. But if you
just you know, just just take a breath, move on,
hopefully and just let it play out and hopefully it's
going to turn out better than we think. But but
(22:58):
you know, humans are very adaptable, adoubtable. People still need
to eat. We need that. We need the food on
the tables, and we've got a very good product. And
people want they want something from a from a great place.
They know New Zealand's a great place.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Are you seeing a change in farming dynamics or such
because of the urban sprawl in an area? Lot Wanica
affected too better.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Well, it's you know, it's gets logistically, yeah, getting through
some of these towns now on the way to the work,
you get a few more guys stopping looking at the
plane the helicopter. But uh and and look at probably
the probably the main thing, Andy, is the with what
we do with the with the fine particle fertilizer less
less water soil will phosphorus, less water soil will we
(23:40):
nine water soil will sulfur. Better utilization of the recyc
down nutrient with the biology that we get, we activate
and and so we're making sure that our clients are
getting product that's not going into the waterways, into the
and I'm I'm a really I'm a big believer in
Lake Wanica and Waktapoo all these region how we're to
(24:02):
have a better solution that's not actually ending up fosterhus
as a key to creating algae in the in the waterways.
We want to look after that. One of my key
things that that's dear to my heart, and we got
a lot of a lot of clients up around these
lakes is looking after those guys long term sustainability side
of it and making sure those guys are good.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
That's real. It's a real key message you bring out
there that people are actually looking at the environmental impacts
and what they're doing.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Oh, absolutely absolutely, it's and they've got a bit more
i'd say, a little bit more scope now to look
outside the box because they you know, there's a margin
there to make it work. So they're doing they are
looking at some of these options now that in the
past there we're probably a bit more hamstrung couldn't couldn't
act on it. Now they're having a crack and they
going with guys like us, and we're overswing and we're
(24:46):
getting more more grazing area into into production, not just
the stock camps. We're grazing hund percent of the blocks
and not letting the new chine go on into the waterways.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Because what are your key phrases? I'll just you've got
a couple like your line, what is it? You're only
as good as you do.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
But understanding soil biology, that's a term you wouldn't have
heard thirty years ago or so.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
No, no, well, well, you know, like the three the
three leagues on the stool, you got, you've got your
biological side of it, you've got your physical side of
your chemical nutrient side of it. So you know, just
think back to school with the three science as you did. Well,
you know, when I got involved, there was so much
focus on just.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
P and P and S and agline. That was it.
That's all you need. But if you've got stock that.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Aren't performing and good grass, you want to make sure
you look after those other areas and just see where
else it might be an issue. And that's what we're
really really good at diagnosing and getting a better solution
out of good value for money.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So events like this, I suppose few business as well.
I'm putting a monetary value on us, you know. It's
it's like what we move we I suppose, like a
lot of businesses say, if I'm not there, the opposition
are So the show circuit, it plays a big thing
down here, especially for.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
The it does.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
And and like I'd be the first one to say that,
I've been tempted to pull right out of its. Social
media is a good way to to u you know,
to promote ourselves. But but you know, the radio side
of it dir't sorry's getting on the radio, but the
things like the radio on the marketing, but but also
getting out to having.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
A chat to guys at these shows.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
You're just even your existing guys reconnecting when they when
they relaxed. That's that's great, that's that's you can't put
a value on that. So it actually turns out really well.
They bring their mates and you get your own into
bloody good.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
The social media is a big deal now.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Oh it's going great, and I think I was talking
about this morning.
Speaker 8 (26:27):
We're getting guys that are rocking and saying, hey, I
want you guys to a fertilizer and that that wouldn't
happen when I first started. It's kind of like they
were trying to stay away from a tent because who
are those weirdos? But now they're actually going these guys
know what they're talking about. They're going to help us.
They're going to give us good service, and they're going
to give us a good product, and they're going to
get us a bloody good result for the for the
money we spent. So that's that's been gold, you know.
That's that's seems to be working.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Murray Cobra and soon to be a TikTok starff.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I don't think so, no shit, No, I try to
stay off it. But yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm never
going to go on that. Suppose Andy there's not more
full team? Yeah no, I can't that.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Hey, good on your Murray, Always appreciate your time, Go and.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Enjoy the say field day. It's just ingrained amp show.
Always good to catch up.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah and you good to talk to.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You, Murray Cobra and of Mainland Minerals. This is the muster.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
The time is twenty two minutes away from two miles.
Anderson is in p for wait Techie we catch up
next twenty minutes away from two but at Jason Derula
on a Friday afternoon MK. Of course, Mark Kelly producing
the must of this afternoon. Of course, we're coming live
from the Wonica a MP show. Miles Anderson joins me next.
(27:38):
I was about to call you Miles Hurrel, but not
the case.
Speaker 9 (27:42):
I don't earn enough to be.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Of course, m P forlewait Techy.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
We caught up with you with Joseph Mooney not that
long ago down in Gorse. So thanks for joining us
on the must have made And of course this is your.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Elite trip yep.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Beautiful part of the country. So what techi is a
huge elect trip? We go from the Ring all the
way down to here and Cromwell sort of zig zag
ground Clyde and Alex and then come out on the
coast halfway between Wackawhite and Palmerston.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
What does it change like that? It just seems like
having to drive like a big zig zag to get
around things when transparency will suggest just make a straight right.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Look it's to do with Every five years there's a
population census. They add up the population of the South Island,
divide it by sixteen and that's how many electorates there are,
or how many people are in an electorate, and so
what they do then is adjust boundaries to fit that
number of people in an electorate. And so coming up
(28:43):
in November, for example, they lose one electorate in the
North Island because the South Island has grown comparatively faster.
And so nowadays we've got seventy one thousand people in
an electorate. Back when MMP first came in and there
was fifty one thousands.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I'm still trying to figure out how the Chattam Islands
comes under wrong atype.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
Yeah, and so are they I think, Yeah, it used
to be part of Being's peninsula.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, I mean talk about having an identity crisis.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. I think the smaller debate in
the in the argument over where they should go.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So, hey, you've had quite a big week, haven't you. Yes,
big week as far as what was it you got
a link to the other day.
Speaker 9 (29:30):
So the new chair of the Primary Production SELEC Committee,
and that's it's a bit of sad story in some
ways because Mark Cameron, the previous cheer, has been very
ill and has he's on leave really from Parliament waiting
(29:51):
for a kidney transplant, and he's had some complications with that.
That means that if he really can' the Parliament and
risks catching any bug, he could really be in serious trouble.
But anyway, so I wish him all the best because.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So, but what's your major role in that? There just
got people a bit of an insight.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
So the.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
Various they are thirteen selectmenies in Parliament and they split
up to look over various issues. So, for example, there's
a Social Services Select Committee, which Joseph Mooney is the
chair of his primary production, so we look at fishing, forestry, farming,
there's the health et cetera, et cetera. So that the
(30:40):
various policies are broken down into various select committees. When
a piece of legislation is going through the House that
relates to that select committee, that select committee is the
one that looks at that legislation, here's the hearings and
(31:00):
makes the changes to this. To the Lieg.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Select committee is a real buzzword for parliament.
Speaker 9 (31:05):
Well, select committee is actually probably seventy percent of my
work in Parliament. So what you see on TV in
the House that's probably only five to ten percent of
members work.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Well, that's probably a big thing that people that understand
the work that actually goes on in Parliament with these
committees and the lights will be interesting to see that
I wouldn't say transparency, but a bit more understanding of
what actually goes on.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Correct.
Speaker 9 (31:30):
And most of those Select committee proceedings are available on
Parliament website when and you can see what's happening at
the various committees, but most people don't because it's not sexy,
I suppose any But that's actually the real most important
part of the job I've got when I'm in Parliament.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Now you've got Davy, you know, kind of going up
against you in the upcoming of links and he's got
his resplendid Red Jersey on today.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
See Carpetbagger been cooling him. Look, I find it quite
amusing that Damien via Dunedin x West Coast is standing
in the Wye Tachi. So it probably indicates to me
that nobody else in the Labor Party wanted to stand
(32:21):
in the electric.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
But that's just the nature of the b So how
many MP's that live outside of their electric these days?
Speaker 9 (32:28):
Not many, but Labor have a few a bit about
that is there ready, I don't think so. I think
I could be wrong, you could, but I'm pretty sure
that we all live within our electorates.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, because that's a big thing for constituents.
Speaker 9 (32:44):
I suppose I think so. And look, Kiwis are pretty parochial.
They don't really like people from outside the area coming
in to stand in constituencies. But you know, Tyree's got
Larry and she seems to spend more time on more
Hickey Island that she does in the Tiri hilleterate, so
(33:08):
we do give her a hard time in parliament call
or the MP for or Hickey. So but you know,
I think Labor figured they could put anyone in there
and they'd still win the seat.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You guys have a whale of a time, and there's
sometimes and let's be honest, you just watched the bites
that come out.
Speaker 9 (33:21):
And yeah, look, there's some very humorous moments within Parliament
when some of those bills are going through and members
are standing up and giving their view on a particular bill,
and there's a lot of sledging. I suppose you'd call
it andy, and it's part of the fun. But it
(33:43):
also keeps you awake because if you just set there
listening to a lot of the speeches, you fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I go back to John Key, and Jamie'll correctly if
I'm wrong. Here we still hear typing with two fingers,
but it's about John Key does a cap that match
the curtains comment?
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah yeah. There are all sorts of
comments like that. A lot of people probably don't hear
on the audio, but someone will say something that's very
pertinent and witty. If they're not witty, they're not worth
repeating anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
So what's the biggest thing you've learned from this term
as an MP?
Speaker 9 (34:18):
I think what I've learned is that there's a lot
more to putting making legislation than I thought the time
time wise. I think people think that, oh, well, you're
going to go in, you're going to change the law
on something, put in your own version of that law. Well,
(34:41):
that actually takes years, because first of all, the idea
has to be turned into legislator to go through and
then correct, and then it has to get on the
order paper, and then it has to go through the
first reading, go through the selectmmittee. All these things take time,
and a lot of people come up to me and said,
(35:01):
how come we can't just do what Donald Trump does
and put in executive orders? And I said, well, that's
because our democracy doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Hey, and just on Donald Trump. We're talking about the
situation in the Middle East. These stations supposedly run running
dry fuel up in the North Island. Up in North Island, Well,
have you heard anything around fuel wrestling?
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Not?
Speaker 9 (35:22):
No, there's obviously there was announcement yesterday around forming a
group that's going to look in all sorts of possibilities.
But I got to remember there's twenty eight days of
fuel on the water as we speak, so we have
about fifty days of fuel supply up at sleeve. And
(35:42):
history would tell us if you look back at the
first Gulf War, yes there was disruption, but after that
the price ball actually plummeted. So who knows what's going
to happen? I mean the hardest part is because I
guess there's no one knows what president is going to
be doing next, let alone President Trump. So that that's
(36:04):
the difficult. Party hasn't clearly articulated what is the end gamers.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Because the situation Australia is well everything I suppose it's
escalating daily.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Yeah, yeah, and yeah, look, it's sort of new territory
for all of us in some ways. And you know,
we can only do so much. And and it certainly
does highlight the fact that we need fuel security here.
If we had more of our own natural gas and petroleum,
(36:38):
then we wouldn't be at the whim of overseas markets
as much.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
So that's the case of looking forward knocked backward. What
happened to Marson points happened.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
Yes, that's true. And but also exploration wise, I think
we need to make sure that we're encouraging offshore and
onshore exploration in hydrocarbons. I think, you know, long term
we still need them. Yeah, And it's it's a very
apparent now when fuel prices are hitting three dollars that
(37:12):
if we had a surety of supply, that perhaps the
market wouldn't react this way.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Hey, good on your Miles, Thanks for coming in. You
go back.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
You'll have a busy afternoon, so will you get back
to today.
Speaker 9 (37:21):
It's good to see Andy. You take care, yes, and
given's life, Yes, right mate, that's.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Right, Miles Anderson m p for wait techie, this is
the muster coming to your Live from the wait Wonica
a MP Show. Up next, Tim Sharpen from Telford Time
ten to two.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
The Muster with Andy Muir Thanks to Peter's Genetics, every
drop means quite a lot when it's from Peter's Genetics.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Welcome back to the Muster. The time is eight minutes
away from to Andy Muley here, coming to your Live
from the Wonica a MP show. Next to go to
chat with Tim Sharpen of Telford met Learning for.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
He down South. He's made the trek over to Wonka
for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Good afternoon, Great to chat.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Good afternoon, Andy.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Now I've spoken to the team from Telford in the past.
I spoke to them I think it was last year
from Upper Mystery Creek and just spreading the word of talent.
Hell things going.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
There, Yeah, very well, very well.
Speaker 10 (38:15):
We've got overrated students this year, which is an incredible
number considering what we've been through in the everyone's been
through in the last five or six years.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
So things are looking very positive.
Speaker 10 (38:26):
We've had a lot of changes, we have, and we've
had a lot of different people or different companies or
outfits in charge. So we're settled with S I. T.
And it's working exceptionally. Well, oh it's.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Good to hear because these learning facilities there seems to
be a lot of young people still wanting to get
into the industry as such the same.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
Yes, yeah, there is, and and they're wanting to clip
a ticket.
Speaker 10 (38:49):
They needed, you know, to get a qualification to help
them on the way.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So what are you guys doing here as such? You've
got a stall, is that right?
Speaker 10 (38:58):
Yeah, So we've got to stall and just promoting Telford
for probably students that are so the minimum age of
sixteen years and for those students who want to do
level three to level five because we also do the
massive diploma of course for this second year students or
students that have got the quolls to do it.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
So the buy in's still there from the young people.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
That's what a bull it does, definitely.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Because that's one thing I speak to young farmers on
a regular basis. I believe you guys are involved with
Clinton Young Farmers cut as well, and just the feedback
to get regarding it. And there's young people for the
sect of the passions.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
There, Yes, it is definitely.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
So we've got a group of students up here this
week helping out the show, helping Mike Elliott and doing
all the hard yard stuff in the morning and helping
with the dog trolls.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
So they're having a buzz. They're here for a couple
of days.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
So it's a bit of a work experience thing.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Network that's what.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
It's all about, out of any name out there, so
it's good to hear and it's a great thing we
got to a yesterday. I mean, for everything going on
in the sector at the moment, these other things we
talked about JEO politically aside, I mean, just young people
wanted to get involved in farming.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Not that many years ago.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
It seemed to be a bit of a drop off
they did, and yeah, for various reasons.
Speaker 10 (40:20):
I mean that kids have got a lot of choice,
but they've come back to it and we're really encouraged.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
What happens with the farming system students is we've.
Speaker 10 (40:30):
Got farmer hosts based throughout a target in south and
and they get the opportunity to go out there.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
It's various stages during the year and work.
Speaker 10 (40:39):
For those farmer hosts and that is that networking thing
and they get encouragement from that from the farmer hosts.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
So they're still a good percentage of students picking up.
Speaker 10 (40:48):
A job for a year out absolutely how high would
the uptake be if I go and look at the
diploma students last year, of which there was twelve or thirteen,
there was.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
That's good, It's pretty You can't get any better than
I and most of it.
Speaker 10 (41:02):
I haven't tracked the farming systems once because some came back.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
I would say, well over fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
It's a competition for students.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
How do you negate that? Because that's the nature of
the beast.
Speaker 10 (41:13):
We are quite unique in the fact that there's a
pastoral care facility, which is important, and we are actually
targeting students more so that don't want to go onto tertiary.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
And of course Ali Rocksburgh's there as well. I mean
anybody in the rural game. He's dealt with telfit and
getting someone to come and do it, a work experience
that works through Alley over the years. So he's got
an amazing wooden network of farmers and he is now
the campus manager, so he's looking after the students on
campus as well.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
So the big thing for you.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Guys, I suppose it's just coming to these shows We
talked about it with Murray before and it just gives
you exposure.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
We had a Southern field days only a.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Few weeks ago as well, so it just reiterates what
is a big week for a lot of people getting
about at the field.
Speaker 10 (42:00):
And why why Mom and will also be at Mystery
Creek as well.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Yeah, so flying the flag.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Mystery Creek works really well for you guys.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Remember speaking to the team and the amount of people
that came along and we just see the feedback, especially
from people from Northland for something.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Yes, yeah, we've always.
Speaker 10 (42:16):
Had a good representation for Northland and that's word of
mouth as well. Yeah, you know, three or four members
of the same family all coming down.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
It's great.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Hey, you get on your term. Thanks for coming in.
Appreciate it. You guys are here for doing a great
job for the rural sector of getting young people involve,
so appreciate the time this afternoon.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Jeers, Thanks very much.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Andy get on your right at this time for laugh
out loud. Thanks to egg Proud, because life on the
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(42:56):
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