May 12, 2026 • 41 mins
Andy Muir talks to James Edgar, Chris Dillon, Jared Stockman, David Latta and Clayton Peters.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I used to buy my tongue and hold my breath
nets get to rock the boat.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui
Andy newly here until two o'clock of course thanks to
Peter's genetics on a half day afternoon. Welcome in to
what we see with a lot of cloud on the
horizon here in gtail. We'll talk the weather shortly, but
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Speaker 4 (00:53):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm teff from and
soft text.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
The proof is in the progeny dot co.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Do on inzed.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This afternoon showers of breezy westerlys and thirteen Thursday sunny.
We're like northwesterly six and twelve Friday cloud. You have
calm variable wins one in ten and the same on
Saturday morning five and then sunshine of variable wins one
in ten and on Sunday sunshine with CALMP variable wins
three and eleven so temperatures Clinton nine point nine, Harriet
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eight point seven, Northern Southland ten, Reveton eleven point nine,
t O nine point three, Tittoro at eleven win to
nine point five and Woodlands nine point eight. James Egger
starts us off farming at moa flat, followed up by
Chrys Dillon Federated Farmer's President. Here in the South, Jared
Stoffmann of darry Enz joins us. David Ledder, a Togo
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rugby icon and vice president of the ZEDR, recently elected.
Tell us if we ask him by why the insed
are and Clayton, Peters and Peters in your next naming sponsors.
We catch up for our usual chin wag. Concidentally, they're
bullsals coming up and there not too distant future. Mark
Corner of PGG writes and gives us a rundown of
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the stock prices from Balcluther, and then we crank into
James Egger. The muster's here until two o'clock and it's
brought to you by Petersens James Egger. Farm's a mother
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flat and no doubt he'll be rating my choice of
music for probably the fourth time in a row. Good
after date.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
You know you're doing yourself again, which is great. It's
a great breaks song. Thatt as we're putting up in
the Swedes and no, that's good. They just the spirits
this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Take well, I don't know where to go with my
music for you because I'm damned to a do, damned
of a don't.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I have to start seeing it them pre pre the
end of your.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh please do absolutely no problem.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
We'll find out find out how I clicked my taste
of music is.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Hey, how's things looking out there? Anyhow? Out as hen
heariet Mile Flat.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Once again. I think we touched on it a few
months ago. It's been the most sort of every season's unusual,
I guess, but it's been quite unusual. So at top five,
right at the top of Mile Flat, we just called
it maybe web or rain on a few goes in
the summer and we've had probably one of our best
grass growing years for a long time, and we've managed
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to keep the cover and sort of manage that block well,
which we're pretty pleased about. And then it's really only
about three or four kilometers towards Etrich and there's sort
of a line around there towards their other block, and
we've been incredibly dry, and we've probably grown a thirdly
stray metter than what would what we normally would, so
that's been quite frustrating. I'd actually like to acknowledge there's
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a few guys over in Miller's flat towards Rocksbroh and
I understand it's been about the driest ortoment about twenty
ideas I'm going to make some serious decisions were with
their block that's been really dry, with steadily getting their
stock numbers down, and we'll probably end up wintering a
thirdly stocked than what we normally would. Just when you've
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got you're just going to do a winter budget, and
if it doesn't work, you've got to find a way
to make it work. We're shifting some stock ground to
the other blocks, and some of our crops around the
place haven't been too bad and possibly call their hog
it's slightly heavier than normal and possibly have an e
US as well. So yeah, the feed budget now works,
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but it's been a bit of a head scratch for
last month.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But you're not contemplating trees though.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
No, no, I don't think so. We're actually probably pulled
out of trees. We've gone the other way where we're
going to plant some more heat years of unproductive farm
land of the forestry. But I think we'll actually worry
about that now. Probably been a bit of a game
changer with calf price in some ways because we can
actually afford to the sheep don't develop very well on
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those south faces and they just get skinny and don't perform.
But a bred and cow of a sudden, you know,
the fifteen hundred dollar half becomes quite an economic unit.
So we'll probably move away from more trees and actually
possibly put a few more cows on. So that's great news,
I suppose, with the current prices, and looks like we
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should get another year hopefully.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well a fifteen hundred dollars calf if you want to
cover the poor thing and bubble rap.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Yeah, No, it's incredible, isn't it. It just changes everything and
they're business. It's been the probably as busy as season
as we've had. The lambs have been hard, so you've
been weighing a lot of bobs to get them, but
equally probably since COVID when they shut down from COVID
and then the lamb price of course crashed, so we'll
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probably catching up on deferred maintenance over about four years
worth over the last while. So yeah, it's been it's
been good to get that done, but it's made everything
a lot busier too.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Window grazing comes under the spotlight, James, and for more
reasons than one, because a lot of environmentalists are out
there trying to create names for themselves and with way,
shape or form that they can. But there's been a
bit of a breakthrough on this passed by Parliament over
the last couple of days.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
You know, some people would call it breakthrough, some people
would call it common Saint Sandy. I find these people
with absolutely leeches and parasites. It's pretty I'd just like
to see in a turnlift budget, like what is their turnlift?
So they've been quite clear that, you know, and I
probably lumped some of the what you called these young
rivers or in some of these other people that are
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taking photos of what I call good practice as to
say nobody can down to bad practice and it's certainly
not what I'm doing. But the last one I saw
that they were posting on the thing near the cattle
were exceptionally well fed and they were really fat. But
they look really good. And we all know what South
and did last weekend, So you know, I just feel
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for that farm and maybe that had that photo taken
of them. But these leeches and parasites that don't want
any fon terror, they don't want any meat industry, they
don't want any mining, they don't want any hole, they
don't want what is the solution to because we cannot
just go back to the third world. They have no solution.
They just economic vandals in my opinion, And yeah, without
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being too strong a words, I just think the scum.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But that's just me, and tell us what you really think.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I think we need to stop pandering around. I mean
we were, we're all putting up with them, but the
reality is in the social media generation now, they're not
going to change their opinions and they're putting really extreme
material out there, and we just need to call it
as we see it now as an industry and just
just call these guys what they are, you know, just
as a saying go as far as call them scum.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You're probably right and that you are right in that
regard to it just needs to be recognized more. And
you know, farmers don't do these things to want reward.
But at the same time you're saying that it should
be out there and acknowledged.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Yeah I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Yeah, no, that's their end. I don't know if I
did acknowledged. I think it's the same as all the
consenting that's coming in. Look, Andy, these this is just
money coming off farms that won't go on to local communities.
It goes into the council, which in my opinion gets wasted.
But once again we must well not mint any words today.
But you know, the concen thing should be the same
thing if you can prove, you know, three hundred and
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sixty five days of the year that you're not impacted
in the environment and just going about your work, and
you're even improving it, like I know we're improving it.
We change some of their stock passes and buts and pieces,
but we just keep fencing off the waterways and just
do our job right because we actually can't afford to
put our tops all down the river. We can't afford
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to lose their third life down the river. So yeah,
our whole Tomerhawk and now was fenced off behind the
property at Riverside. And to be brutally honest, I don't
know that it's been that successful because now the whole
thing's coming and broom long grass and we'll try to
plant natives in there, you know, and I hope that
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in about one hundred years it might be a native corridor.
But yeah, it was a lot easier to enjoy the river.
I mean it was grazed by mont of stuff, mainly sheep,
so I probably do. Sheep don't like to go and water,
you know, quite a different animal.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Talking to Christine from FEDS shortly and he'll bring out
counsel amalgamations. What's your thoughts around it. You're based in
the OC region.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
We just need we need to get really serious. I
see some of the rate was arises again and there's
just no sign of those lowering at any stage. So
we just have to get better what we do.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
See.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I always link it back to being a business owner
or even a household budget, you know, so you can't
just always go and ask for more money, or if
the lamb price is a fragments like eight dollars. I'm
just going to make companies and expect none because said
farm budget doesn't work. We actually have to cut the cloth.
So there's sometimes look at attend on lamb schedule on
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the farm here lot we will be planting some natives
and doing some extra fencing and doing some nice to havens.
And there's times at eight dollar lambs schedule that we
have to button in all that stuff. So the classic
probably is a plant planted, boxes and go, And it's
not the only thing. Even from the l C put
the district council. Sometimes we you know, we watched three
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four vehicles from the clue the district council compass the
mailbox all going up to the water treatment thing, and
I guess we just have to get a lot more
efficient in what we do. Like this isn't silly, this
is just common seams once again. And yeah, we're just
some of the rules even starting from central government need
to get out of the out of the way. Because
I do acknowledge the councils do. We have to follow
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the rules of the central government. So I don't knowledge that,
but I think we can be a lot better at.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
What we do.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
James Egger. Always appreciate your thoughts, cheers, any numbers. James
Egger based at my flat, not mincing words today. Chris
Dylan is up next. He is now president or re
re elected as president of south and Federated Farmers. We
catch up. Welcome back to the muster, Chris Dylan, Federated
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Farmer's President for Southland as of the AGM that was
held a couple of weeks ago. A few changes of
Jason Herrick putting his name forward in the political landscape. Chris,
Welcome back to the muster and first seconds going back
into the fire.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, thank you, Andy.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
What was the catalyst for it?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
There's a few things. Yeah, quite a bit happening in
the province still, and we need to remain on top
of a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
When you say a lot of this stuff, I mean
first and forefront to mind, I do say you're talking
counsel amalgamations, which you guys have been hot under the
collar about.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Ah, yeah, that's definitely definitely part of it. We've been
given a unique opportunity here to shape the future of
local government right across the country obviously, but definitely down here.
One doesn't work down here, and we've been given an
opportunity to come up with something that's going to be
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slightly better.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's going to be slightly better, but is it going
to be the silver bullet that souls things?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
We've got a lot to work through. You've got ato
this with a bit of an open mind.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
There is.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
A lot of unustry councils already across the country that
are very successful. They put the environmental stuff and the
district council stuff under one roof and you remove a
lot of duplication and you gain from what I can see.
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So yeah, on those two things alone.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
On more for it environment Southland. You guys have had
a well documented issues with the organization over the years,
a change of leadership there, jeremyment fail. Now what changes
have you seen with the relationship?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Not very many changes there at all. Obviously they're probably
put out with what's been proposed and forward, but they're
probably the catalyst for what's been proposed because they're just
so an efficient to what they do. They can't send
to achieve the outcomes of the community wants. And so yeah,
let's look at a better way of doing this.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So your biggest concern with es is that is not
efficient for what they cost.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Oh definitely, there's sit way too many staff from there
and to get anything done, you get a report on
a report and knowing will make a decision. The case
in point is the Gravell build ups under the bridges.
The bridges are community as yet and they're very costly
to replace if you have to replace one. What we
saw in the last few years is an environment council
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that says the bridges and their problems, it's district council's problem.
And you get the district council saying we can't do
anything in the river because it's the regional council's prolumn.
So nothing happens in the whole community gets put at risk.
With both being under one roots, the roading engineers should
be able to talk to the river's manager and those
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problems should be sorted instantly. They've started a project and
they've had themselves on the back for how much money
it's getting thrown it. They've got to remember that council
money is ratepayers money and government assisted money has also
comes from the taxpayers in New Zealand. It's not government money.
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And a lot of these issues speaking around the door
could have been faxed a lot earlier before they got
as bad as they did, and for a lot less
a lot less money. So if we can get some
efficiencies in there for the province is a lot better
going forward.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So the three months they've given up the councils to
get things in line, I mean that's just the start
of the process. So this could take quite a while
when you think about it.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yes, this will be I doubt anything will be implicated
to the local body elections twenty twenty eight. We've been
given an opportunity here to come up with what would
best suit the province, and southing is a little unique
in the fact that the Poor already has been rolling
on this one. The Local Government Commission has been has
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been working on this as well. I'm not sure with
this latest announcement where it leaves are outcome, but we'll
find that out in the next few weeks hopefully. But
I just encourage every want to get to get involved
in the process. A survey from the from the Chamber
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of Commerce said that eighty people are not happy with
the current structure, so that that's telling a lot and
other twenty percent probably aren't aware of what's actually going on.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Now. Like I say, you've taken over the role from
Jason here, Rick, are you going to what are you
going to do differently to Jason in the role?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I was going to continue the good work that Jason's
been doing. I'm probably not going to be so outstanding
in the media. I've got some really good doors that
I can open without running everything through the paper. So yeah,
we'll just keep up the good work, keep the pressure on,
and keep trying to get the best results for this
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province that we live in.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Interesting you say that, so you think there's more way
of doing things and just going through the media as such.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Other media is one option, But like you've gotta I
always like to go to a problem with with the
solution as well. And yep, then there's that stretching it
out behind the scenes a lot of a lot of times. Yeah,
there's there's more than one way to skin a cat.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now, of course you're an arable farmer. They're based on
Lasser and Northern South and it's been a tight season.
We look at the farming scene on our whole though,
and we yes, we look at the obvious with the
situation with Donald Trump and the Homerz straight. But on
the local front, I think people generally don't have to
be pretty content at the moment.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
For the livestock and dairy set do. Yeah, that people
are very very happy. It doesn't mean you reroost on
your laurels. When it comes to comes to the issues
going forward, yeah, they are able scene the diesel and
the fertilizer. No one expected either of them to go
as as they did, so it's a challenge going forward.
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We were lucky blast that the harvest got done before
the fuel went went up, but eachg is going to
be a different story.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Because I had Terry Collins on last week from the
AA who was their fuel spokesman. He was saying, the
diesel is going to be there, just going to have
to pay for it. But it sounds as availability you
won't be an issue.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, that's that's thing, but it's a good thing. But
it's the fact that this diesel is going to be
factored into the price of what we produce in the
current model. We have no way of passing on these costs.
And there's every ton of grain requires cauite a lot
of diesel to produce it and it requires quite a
lot of dollars and fertilizer, and the fertilizer prices is
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jumping considerably at the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I'll throw this one at you, Chris. To rural connectivity,
you know as much, which is anybody where you're situated,
and a bit of discontent with the three G network
being disestablished, especially after the events of last October. Are
you hopeful that we're going to finally see a bit
of a resulte bit of a change there regarding real
connectivity so we can actually have standard Internet and sell
you to sell you the connections around this around the province.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, we're hopeful, hopeful for a better system there. It
has got really bad. I'm traveling to a meeting at
the moment and I've had to stop on the side
of the road because I know I will run out
of service half a climbfter up the road. You get
to know the spots that don't work, and it's very
frustrating on the farm to you have to have to
do a lot of your business from a certain panic
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where you can't just keep your job. So it's something
that we're going to keep pushing for better connectivity.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Would you say it's got worse over the past twelve months.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I'd say it's definitely got worse. And you used to
just run out of service and now the calls just
drop out or don't even coming to you just get
a notification, which is frustrating.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
He certainly is good on your crist thanks to your
time as always in congratulations once again, thank you any
Chris Dillan better aided Farmer's President for Southland. You're listening
to the muster up next Jared Stockman from darien Zed,
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Welcome back to the master. Jared Stockman of darien Z
joins us. Jared, good afternoon, that's a well it's been.
It's not exactly cold this morning. We had the firearm,
but merely out of just ambience more than any other reason.
I suppose.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
It has been a bit fresh this week. But you're
not too bad today, I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
They daryan Zed. Things ticking away.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Yeah, got a lot on Andy, just Flacy closing out
a season and yeah, really looking forward to the next
twelve eighteen months. And you know see if on Otaga,
they've got a lot of things happening.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Okay, so we look at the next season. Regional priorities.
What comes to mind.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Yeah, we look, we've been talking to farmers about what
they'd like us to see and we're kind of building
their plans from the bottom up, which is really important.
So get the voice of the farm revolved. Probably three
quite kind of care is that we're focusing on so
environmental regulations and resilient farm system and adaptation, which sounds
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like a mouthful, but I guess the goal is compliance
that works in the real world and just kind of
clear pathways for farmers can implement without losing productivity on farm.
And so yeah, a bit more of a focus on
practical options of heatic infrastructure is really topical. And we've
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got a good round of events that we're cleanning in July,
particularly around carving and cark heir and stuff which will
be which will be really good kind of seeking priority
and probably most importantly is is around people, so skills
training and farm progressions. So you know, if we want
resilient farms, we need resilient teams, skills training, progressing theory
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events that focus more on people and some good takeaways
for our you know, for our farmers and their teams
to move move forward with their progression. And the industry,
and kind of the third key priority is around farm
profitability and business resilience. So you know, profitability is what
funds everything else, resilience, compliance, people, infrastructure and the like.
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So we really want to focus the next twelve months
on on kind of strengthening people's knowledge around financial literacy,
benchmarking and you know, just I guess tying our events
back to that that kind of profit in terms of
you know, the recommend recommendations that we make, what are
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the implications and benefits for farmers in terms of the
proper loss and balance sheets and stuff. So you're really
looking forward to, you know, the next twelve months and yeah,
we're playing some really good events. We're trying to I
guess improve the quality of the events so that they
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become a real flagship that farmers want to get along
to you. But we're also going to do more targeted
discussion groups, so it's really just interacting with farmers and
doing a deeper dive on topics that really met.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It walks in big news as well. You're talking about positors,
the New Zealand Dairy Industry Awards. Scott and Stacey mecheris
getting the Eccolade.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Yeah, precent Sheer Farmer of the Years for Scott and Stacey.
They obviously farming had at dan Dale and we had
a we had an event there a few weeks ago
on farm and got it. It's great to see see
I'm just leading the way in that space. They also
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picked up the People and Cultural Award, the Federal Farmers
Leader Leadership Award, and the Sustainable Past Awards you know,
on the way to winning it. So look amazing couple.
Been an awesome journey to you know, through the through
the dairy industry for them, and yeah, really really staked
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for their reference in next space. And also we mentioned
too the about Taylor Alti. So she got the d
i A Best Video Award at the year and she's
a you know a she was the regional winner for
Dairy Training of the Year, so in the South and awards.
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So yeah, I think southn is represented really well. And god,
the future looks bright for the view industry with these
people involved.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Just finally, over the next couple of weeks, what's the
cool focus.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
I really want to just find like just again, just
close out the year for us, make sure that we've
got our plans in place so that we're you know,
we're already walking pretty fast towards the next season. So
I just really want to close out the year strongly.
Just want on courage, you know, encourage our team to
to get out and see more farmers. Big focus the
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next year will be connecting with more farmers. And look,
we've we were fortunate enough. Next week we'll have the
final piece in a puzzle were we've just got a
final area manager hide for East and Stuth and Suth Icago.
So brings us to the full team and just give
us the chance to to make more farmers and make
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sure they're getting ready from their living investment.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
A lot of good stuff going on, as always, always
appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Joe brilliant, Thanks the end of all the best.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Jared Stockman of dearI and Z for the end of
the year. Clayton Peters out of Peterston Net. That's up next,
Davis Talk Rugby. David Lassa joins.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Us because you'll know, I'm Alan Bar dabas bad dabeys
now Chabl. I'mlan Bar dabas bad dabeys now chabb.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
This is the muster on Hakanoie. David Lesser knowing to
a lot of people is crazy and absolute legend of
Otago Rugby in the nineteen nineties and recently has been
elevated up to vice president of the INZA. Of course
Aaron Rush. President and chief executives are Steve Lancasters. So
a lot of changes going afoot there in rugby in
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New Zealand. We talk about the All Blacks coach heap
us uff going on there as well. But Davids joining
us to give us a bit of an understanding as
to ways put his name for it. David Fresley, congratulations.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
Oh thank you much guys.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, the obvious question why put your name forward in
such a difficult time.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
I sort of got talked talked to you by one
of the board members of char go behind the board
behind the one of the corporate boxes at half time
and he said, would you consider this and if we
nominated you? And I said, oh, I don't. I don't
really know much about it, but I have a look
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and see what see what's about. And I've talked to
a lot of people, you know, it's been pretty caught
on the load down for quite some time. But talk
to good friends and confidence and then Matt Cooper the
upcoing president Aaron Rush. She only talked to her about
it and the roles and what it meant.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
So sort of and especially talking.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Yeah, that that was the important part, was getting getting
a few boxes packed and say hey, yeah, is this
me I don't know yet, but it probably is now
I'll put my hand up.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Yeah, quite excited.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Now, So what was What's something you really hoped? So
think your tea into with the role as is such
a thing.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
I just think meeting rugby people. You know, it's a
game that's given me so much, and you know, if
I can go and listen to them, and you know,
if I can make one difference in in a club
or you know, a provincial union or help out in
some way, I think I've achieved.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Would you say there's a disconnect between the boardroom and
grass streets level these days? Favor because we talk about
numbers of teams and just getting a squad on the
paddock for a lot of players. Given the change, especially
around the front row scenario, it's certainly you know, a
lot of teams are in a different predicament to what
they used to be.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
Yeah, I think it's the biggest thing we've got all
got so much competition in there in sports, you know,
you know, basketball, soccer, there's so many sports out there
now that you know, young young kids and single parents
can look at it and it's easy. It's not sound
is hard, but it's it's probably the easy way for them. Maybe,
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like the basketball side of it, that's indoors. It's smaller numbers.
Commitments not as bad, you know, and probably shouldn't really
say that either. I think probably any sport is a
big commitment for anybody. But you know, I think we're
just we've got a lot of competition. And as I
mentioned before, we talk about the old DNA of of rugby,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
You know, it's not what it used to be.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
And and and that's the hard part, you know, when
you're seeing clubs struggling along plans. You know, they get
to us, you know, they get through schools, and then
they look at other avenues. You know, they're looking at careers,
taking up a career as a builder or a plumber
or engineer, whatever it is they take on and rugby
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rugby becomes secondary.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, a great point you bring up there, How do
we reinvigorate that DNA with rugby or those days go on.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I think they're still there.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
It's just.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
The numbers the clubs. The clubs are starting to see
get a lot of pressure put on them financially, and
then that's their players too. They're looking at it from
a financial point of view. You know, I think when
I was younger, we had our kids, got married later,
we had our kids a bit later, but like young
(30:27):
couples now are both working to make ends meet, trying
to get in the housing market, stuff like that. So
there's a lot more going on to the young ones now.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
We look at the situation around Mauana Pacific here and
it just brings a bigger question. I suppose how to
super rugby evolved to stay relevant?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, that is a big question.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
I don't know if I've got the answer.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
To that one.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Only the big questions on this show mate.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Yeah, you know, there's a lot a lot going on
even you know, like you look at the top level,
you know, there's a lot of I'd say, you small
small things, but they can become big things. You know,
how do we keep everyone in the game and what's
their pathways and stuff like that, And you know, New
(31:11):
Zealand rugby has got a big role to play in it,
and and so we I think we have to. You know,
if we can guide or help or influence young ones
today to put a pair of boots on or whatever
they do, it's just get out and play.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
More with the evolution of one in the stadium in
christ Church, are you concerned that full sized bass stadium
might not stay relevant anymore?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
I think, you know, it's like most things that are new.
You know, we just we as a union, I think
we're in a provincial union. You know, we've just got
to concentrate on what we can do. You know, it's
a fantastic thing what they've done. You know, Hongi, it's
a it's a one off what I haven't been there yet.
I went there last year just to have a look
(32:02):
at the construction that yeah, we couldn't get in to
have a look as such. But you know that does
appel a fantastic stadium and it'll be multi purpose, it'll
be you'll be concerts and whatnot. Unfortunately for us it
might be shortcutting us a wee bit. But you know,
(32:22):
we just got to concentrate on what we can do.
And you know, this is a band coming or whatever
it is, and just make sure we can offer a
good experience.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Now we look at the MPC and the target, I've
got the red pretty cheer. We last spoke to you actually, David,
towards the end of the rugby season last year. A
lot of positives for a Tiger rugby, but how do
we try and get that success at the MPC level
to correlate through the Super Rugby.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
I just think a lot of it, you know, you
know might be but old fashion, but there's not going
to be said for a day game, you know, like
if you know, and that's more looking at crowd wise,
but the day games are fantastic even under the roof.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
You know, the.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Great occasions you can take the kids. It's not what
you've got to get home at nine point thirty ten.
You country people that are sort of if you're traveling
through from Central you know you're almost got to stay
the night. You know, it becomes very expensive to do that.
It's just making it affordable for the people to come
and support their team. And you know, and I think
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that helps the crowd. Do you look at what South
you know they said aft and crowds and that you know,
obviously day because the sun shining on them. They're all
sitting there having a cold bear and you know, and
enjoying the occasion. And I think that's part of what
we used to have. But you know, I think that
things have changed, things evolved.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
You talk about things evolving. Clinton had their weekend in
the sun last weekend. You have beloved clue to Rugby
Club though it's all guns happening this weekend as they
celebrate their one fiftieth.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
Yeah, there's been a lot of work going. Yeah, we've
been very fortunate to have a very good jubilee committee
and they've done outstanding work. You know, we've got a
a lady David Keys, has put her hand up and
really pushed a lot of the stuff and keeped us
in line, which has been great. And you know, she's
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got a book together and she's done that's been an
outstanding And that's this one person that's beyond you know,
i'd say, you know you're calling you know, So we're
looking forward to it. There's a lot of people come.
I think we're over three hundred ligisted people coming for
the from a final say and probably bit of Sunday
(34:47):
if you're still thirsty.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Because you're still thirsty and I'm sure there's a lot
of tales told that the clues one thirsty. Yes, David
Letter and coming Vice president of the Indiana I always
appreciate your time on the Master. You enjoy the big
week in coming up.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
Yes, thanks you Muster.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
David Ledder, incoming vice president for the nz at R.
Interesting to get us thoughts around a lot of it,
she said. Clayton Peters of Peter's Genetics joins us next
to wrap up. Welcome back to the Muster. Clayton Peters
(35:27):
of Peter's Genetics, naming sponsors of the Muster one hock
and we joined pup once again. Good afternoon. Ground conditions
out at Harriet.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Very wet, Andy, good to you too. Then actually a
bit fonderfoot, but we needed the rain, so hopefully we
can get a bit of grows over the next two
or three weeks. Yeah, I'm getting very dry.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
How dry are you there? Exactly compared to where you
want to be?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Well, here we still would just put kettle on fide
of the bowls and fit and kettle and obviously we've
had a bet of but the ground is still quite
hard underneath. So yeah, that's it's been quite late dry,
but anyway, we just get used to it going to
get it normally gets dry at some stay. So but yeah,
all the crops are good stock all and good next.
So yeah, hopefully she's gonna be good for next ten days.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
So every day without these frost is a bit of
a saving grace for you there.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Then yeah, probably we had a few frosty just pro
prided duck shooting and sort of bloody grass brown. Off
of that, it was looking quite dull but obviously dry.
So I think the ground teams are still pretty warm.
I've had this right now, and to be fair, everything's
just greened up. It said, she's looking a lot better.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
So how are how our ground conditions?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
As far as feed, We're probably back a little bit
on grass, but I've sort of pretty much set up
with the crops, so hopefully I can hold everything till
skinning and pretty much all the singles and that sort
of things get in the two scale and crop and
then all the mixed days twins and that head up
that into the hell country.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
So yeah, so we're pretty I think we're we're pretty right.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So you sit for winter, maight, yeah, which is sort
of it.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
This week's in the winter, Ma, we sort of held
the Foo beat off, putting kill on Follo because we
knew were going to get bit of right out the weekend,
so so we fled out doing that at the moment.
So now we're gonna just got to kick the barge
up to them, just getting tradesferred into the follow weeks.
So yeah, so it's been all go.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
So oh the lambs are off.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
The need to be off we saw, yeh know, we.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Just got the ram this way up with the Hobbits
a week ago, about fifteen hundred Hobbits going to the RAM,
and the ones that are not going to the RAM
are old sweeds already, so then we're just going to cheer.
We've just got Seeking Cycle rams and change the stubs tomorrow.
And yeah, it's pretty much just a few Seeking Circle
rams out.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You're both sailed coming up.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
How things looking, I'll Mas, you're getting quite excited about
it if you're any. Yeah, I've just been a few
soals been and some come up next week, so it's
going in to see how they go. But I know
we're really happy with the line up of balls and
they'd over looking good. Yeah, so she's exciting times well.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It's great toast be involved the beef industry.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yes it is. Yeah, yeah, and i'd like to refear
like sheep industry is going pretty buddy good too, so
we can't complain, but may know may long at last. Yeah,
we'll just see how things go.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
So one of the dates of people need to know
around yourself. We'll probably catch up you for them as well,
but nonetheless give people a bit of an idea.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah. Well, it's on the twenty six to May over
at the Baymont. We actually heaving at the Bayman Hotel.
We have the ball straight across the road, I think
viewing from sort of ass nine in the sales of eleven.
So yeah, on the twenty six to money, so you know,
looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
As far as dak shirty, how did you fear?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Oh, we were back a bit, but it was good,
good times, catch up the mates and stuff. So yeah,
it was pretty quiet weak he really it was good
just to sort of sit back and relex a bit.
I had to should have had shifted through more of
the seat on the Sunday Saturday afternoon and the Sunday
and that was good time. We're back beck of it
on numbers, but they just weren't around this year, so
and it was obviously a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
And the other stringer, you are you coaching Harry at
rugby this year and the season now or you're probably
about halfway through the compo most are it.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, we're not quite halfway. We're we're taking a lot, Okay,
we're just it's obviously quite a tight conderence in this year.
So yeah, we've got some vital games coming up in
which we need to win. So yeah, we've won a
couple and just lost a couple and so you know,
it's it's quite exciting. I'm quite enjoying it. A good
bunch of guys. Yeah, we're just yeah, we just haven't
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quite clicked yet. We're going to We're gonna we're time
will tell.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Well, it's the same old story. I suppose. It's like
the one competition here in Southland. It's highly competitive. It
is no different than what you're playing that grade.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
No, No, probably not, No, it's pretty very similar. You know,
there's probably clifer of the top side. They are very
very strong side. You know, we we we've got a
bit of a hiding from them, to be fair, but
we're aware right in at one stage we just reuby
fell fell apart a wee bit, but the boy know that,
and yeah we know what we're capable of. So we'll
click one day very shortly, I hope.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
So what's the focus on the ranch this afternoon? Part?
What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Actually, I'm just going to shut over and just said look,
sort of some stuff for the balls with Justin and
guy Sergeant and then I'm coming back to way and
crutch lambs.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Let's it go there. Haven't you got to do? You've
not got a food chain for that.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Uh well, I'll just we're going to crush them over
the ball, but they're a bit damp, so we'll just
wave them and crush them in the race well as
we go. Yeah, No, I actual quite enjoyed it be
for you.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Oh well, it's good to show the young bucks how
it's done.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, did right.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, Hey, go on to Clayton. Will let you carry
on Peter's geniis naming sponsors here on the muster. You're
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Speaker 1 (40:43):
Good, thanks very much.
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Speaker 8 (41:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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This afternoon showers of breezy westerlys and thirteen Thursday sunny.
We're like northwesterly six and twelve Friday cloud. You have
calm variable wins one in ten and the same on
Saturday morning five and then sunshine of variable wins one
in ten and on Sunday sunshine with CALMP variable wins
three and eleven so temperatures Clinton nine point nine, Harriet
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eight point seven, Northern Southland ten, Reveton eleven point nine,
t O nine point three, Tittoro at eleven win to
nine point five and Woodlands nine point eight. James Egger
starts us off farming at moa flat, followed up by
Chrys Dillon Federated Farmer's President. Here in the South, Jared
Stoffmann of darry Enz joins us. David Ledder, a Togo
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rugby icon and vice president of the ZEDR, recently elected.
Tell us if we ask him by why the insed
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We catch up for our usual chin wag. Concidentally, they're
bullsals coming up and there not too distant future. Mark
Corner of PGG writes and gives us a rundown of
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the stock prices from Balcluther, and then we crank into
James Egger. The muster's here until two o'clock and it's
brought to you by Petersens James Egger. Farm's a mother
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flat and no doubt he'll be rating my choice of
music for probably the fourth time in a row. Good
after date.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
You know you're doing yourself again, which is great. It's
a great breaks song. Thatt as we're putting up in
the Swedes and no, that's good. They just the spirits
this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Take well, I don't know where to go with my
music for you because I'm damned to a do, damned
of a don't.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I have to start seeing it them pre pre the
end of your.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh please do absolutely no problem.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
We'll find out find out how I clicked my taste
of music is.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Hey, how's things looking out there? Anyhow? Out as hen
heariet Mile Flat.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Once again. I think we touched on it a few
months ago. It's been the most sort of every season's unusual,
I guess, but it's been quite unusual. So at top five,
right at the top of Mile Flat, we just called
it maybe web or rain on a few goes in
the summer and we've had probably one of our best
grass growing years for a long time, and we've managed
(03:30):
to keep the cover and sort of manage that block well,
which we're pretty pleased about. And then it's really only
about three or four kilometers towards Etrich and there's sort
of a line around there towards their other block, and
we've been incredibly dry, and we've probably grown a thirdly
stray metter than what would what we normally would, so
that's been quite frustrating. I'd actually like to acknowledge there's
(03:53):
a few guys over in Miller's flat towards Rocksbroh and
I understand it's been about the driest ortoment about twenty
ideas I'm going to make some serious decisions were with
their block that's been really dry, with steadily getting their
stock numbers down, and we'll probably end up wintering a
thirdly stocked than what we normally would. Just when you've
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got you're just going to do a winter budget, and
if it doesn't work, you've got to find a way
to make it work. We're shifting some stock ground to
the other blocks, and some of our crops around the
place haven't been too bad and possibly call their hog
it's slightly heavier than normal and possibly have an e
US as well. So yeah, the feed budget now works,
(04:37):
but it's been a bit of a head scratch for
last month.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But you're not contemplating trees though.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
No, no, I don't think so. We're actually probably pulled
out of trees. We've gone the other way where we're
going to plant some more heat years of unproductive farm
land of the forestry. But I think we'll actually worry
about that now. Probably been a bit of a game
changer with calf price in some ways because we can
actually afford to the sheep don't develop very well on
(05:06):
those south faces and they just get skinny and don't perform.
But a bred and cow of a sudden, you know,
the fifteen hundred dollar half becomes quite an economic unit.
So we'll probably move away from more trees and actually
possibly put a few more cows on. So that's great news,
I suppose, with the current prices, and looks like we
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should get another year hopefully.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well a fifteen hundred dollars calf if you want to
cover the poor thing and bubble rap.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Yeah, No, it's incredible, isn't it. It just changes everything and
they're business. It's been the probably as busy as season
as we've had. The lambs have been hard, so you've
been weighing a lot of bobs to get them, but
equally probably since COVID when they shut down from COVID
and then the lamb price of course crashed, so we'll
(05:55):
probably catching up on deferred maintenance over about four years
worth over the last while. So yeah, it's been it's
been good to get that done, but it's made everything
a lot busier too.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Window grazing comes under the spotlight, James, and for more
reasons than one, because a lot of environmentalists are out
there trying to create names for themselves and with way,
shape or form that they can. But there's been a
bit of a breakthrough on this passed by Parliament over
the last couple of days.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
You know, some people would call it breakthrough, some people
would call it common Saint Sandy. I find these people
with absolutely leeches and parasites. It's pretty I'd just like
to see in a turnlift budget, like what is their turnlift?
So they've been quite clear that, you know, and I
probably lumped some of the what you called these young
rivers or in some of these other people that are
(06:46):
taking photos of what I call good practice as to
say nobody can down to bad practice and it's certainly
not what I'm doing. But the last one I saw
that they were posting on the thing near the cattle
were exceptionally well fed and they were really fat. But
they look really good. And we all know what South
and did last weekend, So you know, I just feel
(07:09):
for that farm and maybe that had that photo taken
of them. But these leeches and parasites that don't want
any fon terror, they don't want any meat industry, they
don't want any mining, they don't want any hole, they
don't want what is the solution to because we cannot
just go back to the third world. They have no solution.
They just economic vandals in my opinion, And yeah, without
(07:33):
being too strong a words, I just think the scum.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But that's just me, and tell us what you really think.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I think we need to stop pandering around. I mean
we were, we're all putting up with them, but the
reality is in the social media generation now, they're not
going to change their opinions and they're putting really extreme
material out there, and we just need to call it
as we see it now as an industry and just
just call these guys what they are, you know, just
as a saying go as far as call them scum.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You're probably right and that you are right in that
regard to it just needs to be recognized more. And
you know, farmers don't do these things to want reward.
But at the same time you're saying that it should
be out there and acknowledged.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Yeah I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Yeah, no, that's their end. I don't know if I
did acknowledged. I think it's the same as all the
consenting that's coming in. Look, Andy, these this is just
money coming off farms that won't go on to local communities.
It goes into the council, which in my opinion gets wasted.
But once again we must well not mint any words today.
But you know, the concen thing should be the same
thing if you can prove, you know, three hundred and
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sixty five days of the year that you're not impacted
in the environment and just going about your work, and
you're even improving it, like I know we're improving it.
We change some of their stock passes and buts and pieces,
but we just keep fencing off the waterways and just
do our job right because we actually can't afford to
put our tops all down the river. We can't afford
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to lose their third life down the river. So yeah,
our whole Tomerhawk and now was fenced off behind the
property at Riverside. And to be brutally honest, I don't
know that it's been that successful because now the whole
thing's coming and broom long grass and we'll try to
plant natives in there, you know, and I hope that
(09:19):
in about one hundred years it might be a native corridor.
But yeah, it was a lot easier to enjoy the river.
I mean it was grazed by mont of stuff, mainly sheep,
so I probably do. Sheep don't like to go and water,
you know, quite a different animal.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Talking to Christine from FEDS shortly and he'll bring out
counsel amalgamations. What's your thoughts around it. You're based in
the OC region.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
We just need we need to get really serious. I
see some of the rate was arises again and there's
just no sign of those lowering at any stage. So
we just have to get better what we do.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
See.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I always link it back to being a business owner
or even a household budget, you know, so you can't
just always go and ask for more money, or if
the lamb price is a fragments like eight dollars. I'm
just going to make companies and expect none because said
farm budget doesn't work. We actually have to cut the cloth.
So there's sometimes look at attend on lamb schedule on
(10:18):
the farm here lot we will be planting some natives
and doing some extra fencing and doing some nice to havens.
And there's times at eight dollar lambs schedule that we
have to button in all that stuff. So the classic
probably is a plant planted, boxes and go, And it's
not the only thing. Even from the l C put
the district council. Sometimes we you know, we watched three
(10:42):
four vehicles from the clue the district council compass the
mailbox all going up to the water treatment thing, and
I guess we just have to get a lot more
efficient in what we do. Like this isn't silly, this
is just common seams once again. And yeah, we're just
some of the rules even starting from central government need
to get out of the out of the way. Because
I do acknowledge the councils do. We have to follow
(11:05):
the rules of the central government. So I don't knowledge that,
but I think we can be a lot better at.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
What we do.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
James Egger. Always appreciate your thoughts, cheers, any numbers. James
Egger based at my flat, not mincing words today. Chris
Dylan is up next. He is now president or re
re elected as president of south and Federated Farmers. We
catch up. Welcome back to the muster, Chris Dylan, Federated
(11:47):
Farmer's President for Southland as of the AGM that was
held a couple of weeks ago. A few changes of
Jason Herrick putting his name forward in the political landscape. Chris,
Welcome back to the muster and first seconds going back
into the fire.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, thank you, Andy.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
What was the catalyst for it?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
There's a few things. Yeah, quite a bit happening in
the province still, and we need to remain on top
of a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
When you say a lot of this stuff, I mean
first and forefront to mind, I do say you're talking
counsel amalgamations, which you guys have been hot under the
collar about.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Ah, yeah, that's definitely definitely part of it. We've been
given a unique opportunity here to shape the future of
local government right across the country obviously, but definitely down here.
One doesn't work down here, and we've been given an
opportunity to come up with something that's going to be
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slightly better.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's going to be slightly better, but is it going
to be the silver bullet that souls things?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
We've got a lot to work through. You've got ato
this with a bit of an open mind.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
There is.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
A lot of unustry councils already across the country that
are very successful. They put the environmental stuff and the
district council stuff under one roof and you remove a
lot of duplication and you gain from what I can see.
(13:25):
So yeah, on those two things alone.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
On more for it environment Southland. You guys have had
a well documented issues with the organization over the years,
a change of leadership there, jeremyment fail. Now what changes
have you seen with the relationship?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Not very many changes there at all. Obviously they're probably
put out with what's been proposed and forward, but they're
probably the catalyst for what's been proposed because they're just
so an efficient to what they do. They can't send
to achieve the outcomes of the community wants. And so yeah,
let's look at a better way of doing this.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So your biggest concern with es is that is not
efficient for what they cost.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Oh definitely, there's sit way too many staff from there
and to get anything done, you get a report on
a report and knowing will make a decision. The case
in point is the Gravell build ups under the bridges.
The bridges are community as yet and they're very costly
to replace if you have to replace one. What we
saw in the last few years is an environment council
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that says the bridges and their problems, it's district council's problem.
And you get the district council saying we can't do
anything in the river because it's the regional council's prolumn.
So nothing happens in the whole community gets put at risk.
With both being under one roots, the roading engineers should
be able to talk to the river's manager and those
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problems should be sorted instantly. They've started a project and
they've had themselves on the back for how much money
it's getting thrown it. They've got to remember that council
money is ratepayers money and government assisted money has also
comes from the taxpayers in New Zealand. It's not government money.
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And a lot of these issues speaking around the door
could have been faxed a lot earlier before they got
as bad as they did, and for a lot less
a lot less money. So if we can get some
efficiencies in there for the province is a lot better
going forward.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So the three months they've given up the councils to
get things in line, I mean that's just the start
of the process. So this could take quite a while
when you think about it.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yes, this will be I doubt anything will be implicated
to the local body elections twenty twenty eight. We've been
given an opportunity here to come up with what would
best suit the province, and southing is a little unique
in the fact that the Poor already has been rolling
on this one. The Local Government Commission has been has
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been working on this as well. I'm not sure with
this latest announcement where it leaves are outcome, but we'll
find that out in the next few weeks hopefully. But
I just encourage every want to get to get involved
in the process. A survey from the from the Chamber
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of Commerce said that eighty people are not happy with
the current structure, so that that's telling a lot and
other twenty percent probably aren't aware of what's actually going on.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Now. Like I say, you've taken over the role from
Jason here, Rick, are you going to what are you
going to do differently to Jason in the role?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I was going to continue the good work that Jason's
been doing. I'm probably not going to be so outstanding
in the media. I've got some really good doors that
I can open without running everything through the paper. So yeah,
we'll just keep up the good work, keep the pressure on,
and keep trying to get the best results for this
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province that we live in.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Interesting you say that, so you think there's more way
of doing things and just going through the media as such.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Other media is one option, But like you've gotta I
always like to go to a problem with with the
solution as well. And yep, then there's that stretching it
out behind the scenes a lot of a lot of times. Yeah,
there's there's more than one way to skin a cat.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now, of course you're an arable farmer. They're based on
Lasser and Northern South and it's been a tight season.
We look at the farming scene on our whole though,
and we yes, we look at the obvious with the
situation with Donald Trump and the Homerz straight. But on
the local front, I think people generally don't have to
be pretty content at the moment.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
For the livestock and dairy set do. Yeah, that people
are very very happy. It doesn't mean you reroost on
your laurels. When it comes to comes to the issues
going forward, yeah, they are able scene the diesel and
the fertilizer. No one expected either of them to go
as as they did, so it's a challenge going forward.
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We were lucky blast that the harvest got done before
the fuel went went up, but eachg is going to
be a different story.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Because I had Terry Collins on last week from the
AA who was their fuel spokesman. He was saying, the
diesel is going to be there, just going to have
to pay for it. But it sounds as availability you
won't be an issue.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, that's that's thing, but it's a good thing. But
it's the fact that this diesel is going to be
factored into the price of what we produce in the
current model. We have no way of passing on these costs.
And there's every ton of grain requires cauite a lot
of diesel to produce it and it requires quite a
lot of dollars and fertilizer, and the fertilizer prices is
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jumping considerably at the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I'll throw this one at you, Chris. To rural connectivity,
you know as much, which is anybody where you're situated,
and a bit of discontent with the three G network
being disestablished, especially after the events of last October. Are
you hopeful that we're going to finally see a bit
of a resulte bit of a change there regarding real
connectivity so we can actually have standard Internet and sell
you to sell you the connections around this around the province.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, we're hopeful, hopeful for a better system there. It
has got really bad. I'm traveling to a meeting at
the moment and I've had to stop on the side
of the road because I know I will run out
of service half a climbfter up the road. You get
to know the spots that don't work, and it's very
frustrating on the farm to you have to have to
do a lot of your business from a certain panic
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where you can't just keep your job. So it's something
that we're going to keep pushing for better connectivity.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Would you say it's got worse over the past twelve months.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I'd say it's definitely got worse. And you used to
just run out of service and now the calls just
drop out or don't even coming to you just get
a notification, which is frustrating.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
He certainly is good on your crist thanks to your
time as always in congratulations once again, thank you any
Chris Dillan better aided Farmer's President for Southland. You're listening
to the muster up next Jared Stockman from darien Zed,
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Welcome back to the master. Jared Stockman of darien Z
joins us. Jared, good afternoon, that's a well it's been.
It's not exactly cold this morning. We had the firearm,
but merely out of just ambience more than any other reason.
I suppose.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
It has been a bit fresh this week. But you're
not too bad today, I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
They daryan Zed. Things ticking away.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Yeah, got a lot on Andy, just Flacy closing out
a season and yeah, really looking forward to the next
twelve eighteen months. And you know see if on Otaga,
they've got a lot of things happening.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Okay, so we look at the next season. Regional priorities.
What comes to mind.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Yeah, we look, we've been talking to farmers about what
they'd like us to see and we're kind of building
their plans from the bottom up, which is really important.
So get the voice of the farm revolved. Probably three
quite kind of care is that we're focusing on so
environmental regulations and resilient farm system and adaptation, which sounds
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like a mouthful, but I guess the goal is compliance
that works in the real world and just kind of
clear pathways for farmers can implement without losing productivity on farm.
And so yeah, a bit more of a focus on
practical options of heatic infrastructure is really topical. And we've
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got a good round of events that we're cleanning in July,
particularly around carving and cark heir and stuff which will
be which will be really good kind of seeking priority
and probably most importantly is is around people, so skills
training and farm progressions. So you know, if we want
resilient farms, we need resilient teams, skills training, progressing theory
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events that focus more on people and some good takeaways
for our you know, for our farmers and their teams
to move move forward with their progression. And the industry,
and kind of the third key priority is around farm
profitability and business resilience. So you know, profitability is what
funds everything else, resilience, compliance, people, infrastructure and the like.
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So we really want to focus the next twelve months
on on kind of strengthening people's knowledge around financial literacy,
benchmarking and you know, just I guess tying our events
back to that that kind of profit in terms of
you know, the recommend recommendations that we make, what are
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the implications and benefits for farmers in terms of the
proper loss and balance sheets and stuff. So you're really
looking forward to, you know, the next twelve months and yeah,
we're playing some really good events. We're trying to I
guess improve the quality of the events so that they
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become a real flagship that farmers want to get along
to you. But we're also going to do more targeted
discussion groups, so it's really just interacting with farmers and
doing a deeper dive on topics that really met.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It walks in big news as well. You're talking about positors,
the New Zealand Dairy Industry Awards. Scott and Stacey mecheris
getting the Eccolade.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Yeah, precent Sheer Farmer of the Years for Scott and Stacey.
They obviously farming had at dan Dale and we had
a we had an event there a few weeks ago
on farm and got it. It's great to see see
I'm just leading the way in that space. They also
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picked up the People and Cultural Award, the Federal Farmers
Leader Leadership Award, and the Sustainable Past Awards you know,
on the way to winning it. So look amazing couple.
Been an awesome journey to you know, through the through
the dairy industry for them, and yeah, really really staked
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for their reference in next space. And also we mentioned
too the about Taylor Alti. So she got the d
i A Best Video Award at the year and she's
a you know a she was the regional winner for
Dairy Training of the Year, so in the South and awards.
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So yeah, I think southn is represented really well. And god,
the future looks bright for the view industry with these
people involved.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Just finally, over the next couple of weeks, what's the
cool focus.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
I really want to just find like just again, just
close out the year for us, make sure that we've
got our plans in place so that we're you know,
we're already walking pretty fast towards the next season. So
I just really want to close out the year strongly.
Just want on courage, you know, encourage our team to
to get out and see more farmers. Big focus the
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next year will be connecting with more farmers. And look,
we've we were fortunate enough. Next week we'll have the
final piece in a puzzle were we've just got a
final area manager hide for East and Stuth and Suth Icago.
So brings us to the full team and just give
us the chance to to make more farmers and make
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sure they're getting ready from their living investment.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
A lot of good stuff going on, as always, always
appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Joe brilliant, Thanks the end of all the best.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Jared Stockman of dearI and Z for the end of
the year. Clayton Peters out of Peterston Net. That's up next,
Davis Talk Rugby. David Lassa joins.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Us because you'll know, I'm Alan Bar dabas bad dabeys
now Chabl. I'mlan Bar dabas bad dabeys now chabb.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
This is the muster on Hakanoie. David Lesser knowing to
a lot of people is crazy and absolute legend of
Otago Rugby in the nineteen nineties and recently has been
elevated up to vice president of the INZA. Of course
Aaron Rush. President and chief executives are Steve Lancasters. So
a lot of changes going afoot there in rugby in
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New Zealand. We talk about the All Blacks coach heap
us uff going on there as well. But Davids joining
us to give us a bit of an understanding as
to ways put his name for it. David Fresley, congratulations.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
Oh thank you much guys.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, the obvious question why put your name forward in
such a difficult time.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
I sort of got talked talked to you by one
of the board members of char go behind the board
behind the one of the corporate boxes at half time
and he said, would you consider this and if we
nominated you? And I said, oh, I don't. I don't
really know much about it, but I have a look
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and see what see what's about. And I've talked to
a lot of people, you know, it's been pretty caught
on the load down for quite some time. But talk
to good friends and confidence and then Matt Cooper the
upcoing president Aaron Rush. She only talked to her about
it and the roles and what it meant.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
So sort of and especially talking.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Yeah, that that was the important part, was getting getting
a few boxes packed and say hey, yeah, is this
me I don't know yet, but it probably is now
I'll put my hand up.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Yeah, quite excited.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Now, So what was What's something you really hoped? So
think your tea into with the role as is such
a thing.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
I just think meeting rugby people. You know, it's a
game that's given me so much, and you know, if
I can go and listen to them, and you know,
if I can make one difference in in a club
or you know, a provincial union or help out in
some way, I think I've achieved.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Would you say there's a disconnect between the boardroom and
grass streets level these days? Favor because we talk about
numbers of teams and just getting a squad on the
paddock for a lot of players. Given the change, especially
around the front row scenario, it's certainly you know, a
lot of teams are in a different predicament to what
they used to be.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
Yeah, I think it's the biggest thing we've got all
got so much competition in there in sports, you know,
you know, basketball, soccer, there's so many sports out there
now that you know, young young kids and single parents
can look at it and it's easy. It's not sound
is hard, but it's it's probably the easy way for them. Maybe,
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like the basketball side of it, that's indoors. It's smaller numbers.
Commitments not as bad, you know, and probably shouldn't really
say that either. I think probably any sport is a
big commitment for anybody. But you know, I think we're
just we've got a lot of competition. And as I
mentioned before, we talk about the old DNA of of rugby,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
You know, it's not what it used to be.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
And and and that's the hard part, you know, when
you're seeing clubs struggling along plans. You know, they get
to us, you know, they get through schools, and then
they look at other avenues. You know, they're looking at careers,
taking up a career as a builder or a plumber
or engineer, whatever it is they take on and rugby
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rugby becomes secondary.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, a great point you bring up there, How do
we reinvigorate that DNA with rugby or those days go on.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I think they're still there.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
It's just.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
The numbers the clubs. The clubs are starting to see
get a lot of pressure put on them financially, and
then that's their players too. They're looking at it from
a financial point of view. You know, I think when
I was younger, we had our kids, got married later,
we had our kids a bit later, but like young
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couples now are both working to make ends meet, trying
to get in the housing market, stuff like that. So
there's a lot more going on to the young ones now.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
We look at the situation around Mauana Pacific here and
it just brings a bigger question. I suppose how to
super rugby evolved to stay relevant?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, that is a big question.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
I don't know if I've got the answer.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
To that one.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Only the big questions on this show mate.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Yeah, you know, there's a lot a lot going on
even you know, like you look at the top level,
you know, there's a lot of I'd say, you small
small things, but they can become big things. You know,
how do we keep everyone in the game and what's
their pathways and stuff like that, And you know, New
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Zealand rugby has got a big role to play in it,
and and so we I think we have to. You know,
if we can guide or help or influence young ones
today to put a pair of boots on or whatever
they do, it's just get out and play.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
More with the evolution of one in the stadium in
christ Church, are you concerned that full sized bass stadium
might not stay relevant anymore?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
I think, you know, it's like most things that are new.
You know, we just we as a union, I think
we're in a provincial union. You know, we've just got
to concentrate on what we can do. You know, it's
a fantastic thing what they've done. You know, Hongi, it's
a it's a one off what I haven't been there yet.
I went there last year just to have a look
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at the construction that yeah, we couldn't get in to
have a look as such. But you know that does
appel a fantastic stadium and it'll be multi purpose, it'll
be you'll be concerts and whatnot. Unfortunately for us it
might be shortcutting us a wee bit. But you know,
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we just got to concentrate on what we can do.
And you know, this is a band coming or whatever
it is, and just make sure we can offer a
good experience.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Now we look at the MPC and the target, I've
got the red pretty cheer. We last spoke to you actually, David,
towards the end of the rugby season last year. A
lot of positives for a Tiger rugby, but how do
we try and get that success at the MPC level
to correlate through the Super Rugby.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
I just think a lot of it, you know, you
know might be but old fashion, but there's not going
to be said for a day game, you know, like
if you know, and that's more looking at crowd wise,
but the day games are fantastic even under the roof.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
You know, the.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Great occasions you can take the kids. It's not what
you've got to get home at nine point thirty ten.
You country people that are sort of if you're traveling
through from Central you know you're almost got to stay
the night. You know, it becomes very expensive to do that.
It's just making it affordable for the people to come
and support their team. And you know, and I think
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that helps the crowd. Do you look at what South
you know they said aft and crowds and that you know,
obviously day because the sun shining on them. They're all
sitting there having a cold bear and you know, and
enjoying the occasion. And I think that's part of what
we used to have. But you know, I think that
things have changed, things evolved.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
You talk about things evolving. Clinton had their weekend in
the sun last weekend. You have beloved clue to Rugby
Club though it's all guns happening this weekend as they
celebrate their one fiftieth.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
Yeah, there's been a lot of work going. Yeah, we've
been very fortunate to have a very good jubilee committee
and they've done outstanding work. You know, we've got a
a lady David Keys, has put her hand up and
really pushed a lot of the stuff and keeped us
in line, which has been great. And you know, she's
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got a book together and she's done that's been an
outstanding And that's this one person that's beyond you know,
i'd say, you know you're calling you know, So we're
looking forward to it. There's a lot of people come.
I think we're over three hundred ligisted people coming for
the from a final say and probably bit of Sunday
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if you're still thirsty.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Because you're still thirsty and I'm sure there's a lot
of tales told that the clues one thirsty. Yes, David
Letter and coming Vice president of the Indiana I always
appreciate your time on the Master. You enjoy the big
week in coming up.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
Yes, thanks you Muster.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
David Ledder, incoming vice president for the nz at R.
Interesting to get us thoughts around a lot of it,
she said. Clayton Peters of Peter's Genetics joins us next
to wrap up. Welcome back to the Muster. Clayton Peters
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of Peter's Genetics, naming sponsors of the Muster one hock
and we joined pup once again. Good afternoon. Ground conditions
out at Harriet.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Very wet, Andy, good to you too. Then actually a
bit fonderfoot, but we needed the rain, so hopefully we
can get a bit of grows over the next two
or three weeks. Yeah, I'm getting very dry.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
How dry are you there? Exactly compared to where you
want to be?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Well, here we still would just put kettle on fide
of the bowls and fit and kettle and obviously we've
had a bet of but the ground is still quite
hard underneath. So yeah, that's it's been quite late dry,
but anyway, we just get used to it going to
get it normally gets dry at some stay. So but yeah,
all the crops are good stock all and good next.
So yeah, hopefully she's gonna be good for next ten days.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
So every day without these frost is a bit of
a saving grace for you there.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Then yeah, probably we had a few frosty just pro
prided duck shooting and sort of bloody grass brown. Off
of that, it was looking quite dull but obviously dry.
So I think the ground teams are still pretty warm.
I've had this right now, and to be fair, everything's
just greened up. It said, she's looking a lot better.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
So how are how our ground conditions?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
As far as feed, We're probably back a little bit
on grass, but I've sort of pretty much set up
with the crops, so hopefully I can hold everything till
skinning and pretty much all the singles and that sort
of things get in the two scale and crop and
then all the mixed days twins and that head up
that into the hell country.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
So yeah, so we're pretty I think we're we're pretty right.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So you sit for winter, maight, yeah, which is sort
of it.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
This week's in the winter, Ma, we sort of held
the Foo beat off, putting kill on Follo because we
knew were going to get bit of right out the weekend,
so so we fled out doing that at the moment.
So now we're gonna just got to kick the barge
up to them, just getting tradesferred into the follow weeks.
So yeah, so it's been all go.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
So oh the lambs are off.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
The need to be off we saw, yeh know, we.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Just got the ram this way up with the Hobbits
a week ago, about fifteen hundred Hobbits going to the RAM,
and the ones that are not going to the RAM
are old sweeds already, so then we're just going to cheer.
We've just got Seeking Cycle rams and change the stubs tomorrow.
And yeah, it's pretty much just a few Seeking Circle
rams out.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You're both sailed coming up.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
How things looking, I'll Mas, you're getting quite excited about
it if you're any. Yeah, I've just been a few
soals been and some come up next week, so it's
going in to see how they go. But I know
we're really happy with the line up of balls and
they'd over looking good. Yeah, so she's exciting times well.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It's great toast be involved the beef industry.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yes it is. Yeah, yeah, and i'd like to refear
like sheep industry is going pretty buddy good too, so
we can't complain, but may know may long at last. Yeah,
we'll just see how things go.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
So one of the dates of people need to know
around yourself. We'll probably catch up you for them as well,
but nonetheless give people a bit of an idea.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah. Well, it's on the twenty six to May over
at the Baymont. We actually heaving at the Bayman Hotel.
We have the ball straight across the road, I think
viewing from sort of ass nine in the sales of eleven.
So yeah, on the twenty six to money, so you know,
looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
As far as dak shirty, how did you fear?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Oh, we were back a bit, but it was good,
good times, catch up the mates and stuff. So yeah,
it was pretty quiet weak he really it was good
just to sort of sit back and relex a bit.
I had to should have had shifted through more of
the seat on the Sunday Saturday afternoon and the Sunday
and that was good time. We're back beck of it
on numbers, but they just weren't around this year, so
and it was obviously a beautiful day.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
And the other stringer, you are you coaching Harry at
rugby this year and the season now or you're probably
about halfway through the compo most are it.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, we're not quite halfway. We're we're taking a lot, Okay,
we're just it's obviously quite a tight conderence in this year.
So yeah, we've got some vital games coming up in
which we need to win. So yeah, we've won a
couple and just lost a couple and so you know,
it's it's quite exciting. I'm quite enjoying it. A good
bunch of guys. Yeah, we're just yeah, we just haven't
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quite clicked yet. We're going to We're gonna we're time
will tell.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Well, it's the same old story. I suppose. It's like
the one competition here in Southland. It's highly competitive. It
is no different than what you're playing that grade.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
No, No, probably not, No, it's pretty very similar. You know,
there's probably clifer of the top side. They are very
very strong side. You know, we we we've got a
bit of a hiding from them, to be fair, but
we're aware right in at one stage we just reuby
fell fell apart a wee bit, but the boy know that,
and yeah we know what we're capable of. So we'll
click one day very shortly, I hope.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
So what's the focus on the ranch this afternoon? Part?
What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Actually, I'm just going to shut over and just said look,
sort of some stuff for the balls with Justin and
guy Sergeant and then I'm coming back to way and
crutch lambs.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Let's it go there. Haven't you got to do? You've
not got a food chain for that.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Uh well, I'll just we're going to crush them over
the ball, but they're a bit damp, so we'll just
wave them and crush them in the race well as
we go. Yeah, No, I actual quite enjoyed it be
for you.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Oh well, it's good to show the young bucks how
it's done.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, did right.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, Hey, go on to Clayton. Will let you carry
on Peter's geniis naming sponsors here on the muster. You're
ongoing support, much appreciated, No.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Good, thanks very much.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Annie laugh out loud with ag proud because life on
the land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us
by sheer Well data working to help the livestock farmer.
Just a couple of things that were seen in shops
and an iclutter. If you don't see what you're looking for,
you've come to the right place. In a non smoking area.
(41:06):
If we see smoke, we will assume you're on fire
and take appropriate action. A car dealership the best way
to get back on your feet, mister car payment in
the front yard of a funeral home. Drive carefully, We'll wait.
And last, but not least, the sign on the back
of a septic tank truck caution, this truck is full
of political promises.
Speaker 8 (41:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That's us, over and done us for the afternoon. The
podcast is going up shortly. I'm Andy Muller. Of course,
A Muster is brought to you by Clayton entertain at
Peter's Genetics. Enjoy the afternoon. We'll catch you tomorrow.
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