July 12, 2026 • 43 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jamie King, Penny Simmonds, Andrew Welsh, Alex Clark and Morgan Mitchell.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Good afternoon and welcome to the musterin Hakanui. I mean
him your We're here until two o'clock this afternoon on
The show is brought to you by Peters and Unix's. Firstly,
apologies for the kroggy voice. This is all due to
being on the sidelines of the Galbra Shield final on
Saturday afternoon, which we're going to focus on later on
in the hour. But what a tremendous game of rugby
(00:28):
one hundred minutes for the final. It couldn't get any
better than that. Pirate's old Boys worthy foes in that
final as well with the Barbers getting the chocolates. But look,
as far as rugby goes, it was an outstanding day
and the Lez George Ovaal in immaculate condition as well.
So yeah, feeling a bit rencid as a result of that,
(00:49):
but nonetheless a big weekend sport. Brenda McCallum as well,
Besball's no more in Test cricket. He got the sack overnight,
the A B's and the Wars they won again, wimbled
in even though it's not on Telly Yannick Cinner won that.
The black Caps, as we heard on the news end
they're playing in the West Indies at the moment. That's
kind of flying under the radar. Fifty over crack at Hell,
(01:10):
Good and England against Argentina and France Spain and the
Football World Cup semi's happening this week, so there's a
bit going on. The music today is foreigner as well.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
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Speaker 1 (01:36):
This afternoon sunshine with breezing or easterlies and tena is
a high. Currently we're sitting on ten and Goran. I'll
give you the tip. Is a beautiful day here in Getown.
It was called on Christ thirst thing, but looking out
here at the moment it's it's a Bobby dazzlert a
coin of phrase. Tomorrow afternoon sholls like northwesterlies five and
ten again ritch a repeat on Wednesday with morning showers
(01:57):
and breezy westerlies five and ten. Thursday morning showers of
westleys six and eleven, and Friday afternoon shellers and all
westleys five. We're reaching the Guinea heights of twelve degrees. Yeah.
He are bring it on saw terriages this afternoon, very
limited Clinton two point six and Winton three point four.
Jamie King of Lake Eroko starts us off in the
(02:18):
Sergeant Dam Farming roundup this afternoon. Penny Simmons MP for
him for Cargo, talking about the Indian Free Trade Agreement
and just sort of rockstar. The Indian ploy Minister is
Andrew Walsh of Twin Farm Genetics at home of Teffron,
sponsors of the five day forecast. Here on the Muster,
we catch up with snow see how things are in
the way Mare Valley. Alex Clark of KWS is having
(02:42):
you out as well, talking crop heels in their Morgan
Mitchell Captain of the Eastern Northern Barbarians Morghi's in studio
and we asked a question, was that the final game
for mister Mann on Saturday. So without further ado, we'll
get on with the show. We're starting off with Jamie King.
You're listening to the Muster seven after why check in?
(03:11):
Jamie Kane gets us underway this afternoon on the Muster,
farming at Lake Eroco and joining us in the Sergeant
Dan Farming Groundup. Thanks of course the Sergeant dan Stock Foods.
We go and catch up with various farmers from around
the Southern province and we do it every Monday here
on the program. Jamie, good afternoon, Good mate, here a
were going today. It was a big weekend to wait.
(03:31):
To be honest, the girl brace Shield came back to Gore
and the wind had a couple of quiets, as you
do on Saturday night. And yeah, I'm getting better now,
thanks for asking.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, it sounds like your fevers on atout one hundred
and three too for you, mate, not.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
One hundred and three. But when you start getting older,
you've you've certainly got your kryptonite when it comes to
having a couple of cans.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
That's right, mate, And it's the first thing you forged
about when you're hitting a couple as the consequence of
sometimes but that's all right, you good points and.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We've absolutely mate. Loud Laker. Okay, how are you guys
fearing over there? We've had a run of frosts here
and Gore. Today's actually been reasonably mild. Sounds as though
you've had a bit of rain.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I mean we're pretty wet there the last well, yeah,
seven eight days ago over the weekend mat think we
ended up with about eighty mil. But we've had a
huge run of frost and it's teaming down right about now.
I think short chart one again, but you know it's yeah,
it was more traditional with snow on the mountains again
and but it's just winter tour and endy. But all
in all, gon pretty good grass. We sort of went
(04:32):
a bit gray and yellow with all the frosts, but
it's just hanging around there, covers just sitting probably where
we need them and want them hollow down.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Would the snow be on the hills, No, it's.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Still right up on the tusso mate, right up hi.
You know, we don't like we're any the bottom farm.
We're one hundred minutes above sea level, so from the
tops a three hundred I think. But we've had nothing
dusting up on top yet. So again, gamm pretty good
to be fair andy. Yeah, just took him away on
top of them to school holidays and just winter mode
yet again.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
The lake of snowfall heading into the middle of July.
It's intriguing.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, I think what is up there will hang around
for a wee bit. Well on that night with a
couple of inches around, it might just siprotate. But yeah,
well finally it might be a good year to own
a skifield to say they're back into a charge and
so they'll be probably the earliest those boys have got going. Yeah,
but no, just wait and see what's coming around the
corner with all the seal Nino chef and what have you,
and just hopefully we can get a spring in a
(05:29):
summer maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Andy, So how scanning and the like Spain Jamie.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yet I think Scotty just finished again in the yesterday.
I think, well, I just what was about one hundred
and semi five across the whole lot that's to do
some mixed age cast rages even him. So it's probably
that you is. We're in good Nick. Yeah, everything's still
in pretty good conditional with careful stock and yeah nothing's
nothing's getting nothing's on controlled starvation yet. So that's quite nice,
(05:58):
good place to be just at the moment.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So yeah, and that's a reasonable skinning number as well.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, we don't said must have a way few more
in them losses. But I mean if we get a
traditional spring, that's it just makes the makes a big
difference on supportability. So but yeah, that's more probably enough
enough for us at the stage and we'll just meet
another nature just sort on the wrist.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Singles do they go on to crop shortly?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yep, yep. Now the singles will beyond crop and to
just tick around on the grass and triple it's all
way up. They'll be getting getting feed and looked after
with a bit of a curse. But I mean, you've
got to do everything you can. They didn't. They don't
get to ask any lambs I've got on them, So
you just do everything you can. Signs twin being cares
but yeah, know you just see that. Yeah, just plug away,
just feed. It's always good to feed stocking.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And as far as tripless, do you just find them
an absolute nuisance or is it a case of it
is what it is. And you know, if if you
want to go around there on your lambing bait you
they just be a lamb there.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You got to be fee mate. I don't do much
on the sheep front around here, which there's a lot
of people over when we kettled and the man and then
obviously with enough scale, the account's going to look after that.
But now they do what they can and putting shord
one off here and need to do bit of mother
and at the Peddican just fill the gaps and being
through the whole lamb wearing things, a couple of machines
and that and done it for a couple of years
(07:16):
and just seeing what rolled at the bottom and going forward,
it might be worth a crack again to rease on
those Lambs. But I don't know that there's a lot
of work there's and look a lot of sheep out
there's a lot of work in them. So but yeah,
I just just called card as we say it.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Really, it'll be interesting how those markets go, especially Lambs
last week at Loanville cracking four hundred dollars for the tops.
So you know, we're saying the money that's coming out
for these spring contracts just pretty much reflective of the
market too.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, it's dangerous, Graham, but I don't
know we need it. Perhaps it would be nice thing
that's going to hang around that Probably the Ovale market
probably scares me more so than the Ovo and Mark. Yeah,
but it's just interesting you stayed with them. What's sitting
on the world stage. You know what. The Lambs obviously
(08:07):
got a bit more competition was to go to that internationally,
so but we'll wait and see. We'll just wait and see.
At least their their newest horor shown freezing plants have
been well a lot more competitive and more grassroots, So
we'll baby steps.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Did you say then bowvine worries you more than ovine
or the other way around, the other way.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Around, mate, Yeah, probably hanging my head on the bow
lines a bit better for probably longer term at the stage.
But just what's done on this in the US and
as long as mister Trump's all there. But yeah, it's
all part in that it made at the end of the day,
I suppose.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So the lamb situation, what you made your concern that
we're just everything's peaked.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, just yeah, I think it's probably climbed up quite quickly.
And obviously if history resuming or markets, if something goes
up very quickly, it tends to fall down very quickly,
whereas the big things sort of just try to way
for probably two years, I suppose, and it's got as
to where we are and it's you know, just taking along.
So I don't know, maybe it's a I'm just skim
(09:09):
and green or overthinking that. Mate.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We'll wait and see, Yeah, talking about Alliance and Dawn Meets.
There's been a couple of meetings down in the South recently,
and I made the observation the other day that a
couple of people who are a bit cimical about this
all going through, well, what's done is done now, But
they reckon there's a lot more of a pragmatic approach
and a lot more you know, matter of fact situation
(09:31):
with Nile Brown and Co. Given the door meet says,
come in with their big majority share.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Oh absolutely, maton. I catch up with Nile when it
all sort of happened, and he's definitely that way inclined.
You know, you don't be a fourth to fifth generation
Irish meat company for no reason and it will get
get shipped done sort of style. But I mean, look
what had with those Greenley plants the other day. I
(09:57):
mean he bought a he bought a million dollar house
mate for you know, eighty grand, didn't he so, which
absolutely anyone will do. So that's probably been a very
good investment for his sort of things, but so far
he has sort of dead. It's taking along the right,
No one's complaining. Still probably scorned the way a bit,
the way it all worked out but looking more g sail,
(10:19):
wasn't it, But however we can't. I'm not a big
one looking back in. He just looked forward, box on.
It'll be interest with the future holds.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Just quickly to wrap up the old Black's got the
job done over Esaly at the weekend. But look from
his self in perspective asan the great good to see
him do the antlers up. But Josh Morby as well,
let's not forget he played a few games down here
for South and but gee he's had a wicked season
for the Hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah mate, yeah, yeah, no he was. He was definitely
outstanding there on when he come on on Saturday, he
had just deserved. Everybody got sex. We'll growing up there
for a couple of crackers. Yeah that was interesting test
but pretty messy. But yeah, I suppose you look bed
Hurricanes for of winning the wolf. That's the provincial Super
(11:04):
fourteen team. I'd love to put the team up against
a and all exit and see how we went. But
they're still going to work through there. But they Yeah,
it's this promises potential for early days, so we'll we'll
wait and seeing a couple of debut and see its
sort of made a bit of an them picked. So
that's good to see.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Well, the problem was if they played the wake, the
players playing for two teams at once. I don't know
how make that work.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
No, that's right, you need to clone some people.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
We won't.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Bring back Dolly the Sheep, I say, Jamie King, always
good to catch up, he spottle, make good on you.
Check in, Jamie King of Laca Roko. Thanks to Sergeant
Dan the Saturn Day Firm and ground up. Every Monday
here on the Master. Penny Simmons is up. Next, team
from the Cargo coming Welcome back to the Master. Penny
(11:58):
Simmons has in p from Miccago and joins us. Penny,
good afternoon, always good to catch up. How have things
been recently? Oh? Good?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Thanks and yes, great week. Last week down in Vicago,
we had quite a lot of things going on. We
had Paolo Garcia, the MP for New Lynn. He was
down meeting with a lot of our Filipino community. Paolo
was the first ever Filipino to be elected as an
(12:28):
electorate MP in New Zealand's parliament. Lovely, lovely man. He's
a lawyer. He came down and spoke with a Filipino
community and also a number of Shrank and Netoalie, so
that was really nice. We had the big twenty five
year celebrations for zero fees at st they invited me
(12:50):
along to be a keynote speaker for that, and a
lot of meetings with constituents last week which was just
great to spend some time in Southland meeting up with
people that have been sort of meeting a while now.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Are the honest Penny. I'm aware of the majority of
MPs for National that are in Parliament, but mister Garcia
is one that is flying flowing under the radar.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah, yeah, Look, he's a very quiet gentleman, but he's
a very respectful, really decent man. And yeah he's not
standing again, but he's been a quiet achiever for us
just in the background working with the Filipino community, and
of course in south And we have a big Filipino community,
(13:34):
and there's a wee bit of an issue that Filipino
people tend not to make wills. It's not part of
their culture, and that's actually starting to become a real
issue because of course in New Zealand you need to
have a will or else you can spend quite a
long time without access to bank accounts and things. So
(13:57):
he was just talking to them about that, about why
you need to make a will here, and the difference
between not having a will and having a will. So
it's just a cultural thing that over in the Philippines,
you don't talk about the death of an alder. You don't.
It's disrespectful and so and it doesn't It isn't such
(14:19):
a big deal over there. But of course a number
of Filipino families now have quite significant assets here in
the dairy industry. They have heard the cows and you know,
it's quite a significant thing now, death without a will,
So it was nice having them down.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's a really scary thought for a lot of people,
not realizing that wills need to be in place, especially
for immigrants.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, it's a cultural thing. In the Philippines, it's not
unusual at all not to have a will. But over here,
of course, it courses all sorts of issues with our
dow and it means that the grieving families going through
this difficult grieving time but also having to deal with
issues like not being able to get access to bank
(15:06):
accounts and not being able to pay mortgages. And so
it can be a.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Real issue zero phase as well. You'll know this story
as good as anybody. It's been a big success.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Yes, look it was lovely. It was just a really
nice moment to be able to reflect on the zerof story.
A lot of the representatives from the original ones that
were involved with there. Of course the ilt, the community trust,
the local authorities, and it was lovely to have Scott
and joshs o'donald there from HWR because Bill was very involved.
(15:41):
Bill Richardson was very involved with helping us work through
the financials and so it was lovely to have a
lot of Southland identities there to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You find it underasing as well regarding New Zealand First
and their opposition to the free trade agreement with India.
But Mark Patterson, he is Associate Minister of Agriculture, but
he's been over in India promoting war. You think this
is a bit of a sticking point.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Well, it's something of an irony that New Zealand First
haven't been supporting us with the India free Trade agreement
and Mark's over there spending time promoting strong will, which
is great than our second biggest country that we export
strong wall too, and that's great, but actually a free
(16:31):
trade agreement has going out that enormously, so it's something
of an irony there. But look, the free trade agreement
obviously came to the fall with part mister Modi here
over the weekend, and you know there's a lot happening already.
Apples have seen a sixty three percent increase in the
(16:53):
amount of apples that have been exported. K we fruit's
going to be a big deal. So look, it's it's
all ed having an impact on our export income with India.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
But as a fair enough Mark Patterson being over there
due to the fact that he is there in a
ministerial position, yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I don't look, it's absolutely fair enough and it's good
friend to be doing it. It's just something of an
irony that he's seeing big opportunity. He's an India for
a strong rule but not supporting the free trade agreement.
But look good on him being.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Over there in the employ minister or in Dramodi. Like
you say, he's an absolute rockster. And I heard the
comparison made on the radio this morning. When have you
heard Christopher Laksen even to cinder Ada and anybody walking
into an ambitheater of thirty twenty thirty thousand people. If
their name's being chanted, it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
No, he is absolutely a Rochester and there's no doubt
that under his time the wealth of the Indian community
has really taken off. The look at such a big population,
one point four billion people. It's hard for us to
comprehend that. I've been to India a number of times
(18:06):
in my past life and look that the population, the
ser volume of people is overwhelming. But that's just such
a big opportunity for us in a little country like us,
with five million people and their prime minister coming to
visit us and being really friendly with us and wanting
that relationship. It just opens up so many doors for
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us with our export goods. So yeah, a real rock star.
People the Indian community here and in Australia absolutely love them,
and certainly in India he is credited with lifting literally
hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. Still a
big divide there between the wealthy and the poor, but
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he's lifted hundreds of millions up into that middle class
income bracket.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, okay, that being said, New Zealand being a small
country like we are, should we really be committing you
as twenty billion dollars a private investment to go to
India within fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Well, we're not committing it. We're working towards. That's the aim.
It's an objective to be working towards. And the more
that we can build that relationship the better. There's already
relationships there. Certainly a lot of the tertiary institutions have
relationships in India. They'll have joint campuses in India. So
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it's across the board and it's over a long period
of time and it's an objective to aim for.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Just Finally, there's been some policy announcements that are flown
under the radar.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, look we have and some of these things
don't get noticed, but they are really important, like the
uplift for the community pharmacies. I think it's a three
point five or three point six percent increase. Of course,
we did the increase ford the GPS and also for
aged care facilities and you know they've we've all been
(20:06):
doing it tough. We recognize that. So you know, it
don't sound like big important announcements, but actually for those
businesses they are. And so it's good to be able
to have been able to provide those small uplifts.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Penny Simmons always appreciate your time on the Muster.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Great to talk to you, Andy, Thanks Spy.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Penny Simmons, MP OF and VCAGO. We're talking about the
rock star that is Indian Prime Minister. This is the
muster up next, Andrew welsh you're willing. This is the
muster on Hakanui. Andrew Welsh o a twin farm Genetics,
a home of Teff Frahm and sponsor of the five
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day forecast here on the Muster as well as hakanu
He joins us. Good afternoon, snow way mere valley. How
are things you know?
Speaker 6 (20:55):
But it's fantastic ry, Yeah, beautiful sunrisess morning. It's good
to get out and yeah, move those stock and nice
sort of a warm morning.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
You can hear the plotters in the background as we speak.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Yeah, yeap, just out. But he moved some sheep out
here and some stubble paddocks and yeah, got the old
Perry still hanging around in the background.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
If you still have many ducks floating about in.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
General, there's a wee few, but definitely not the numbers
we normally get. Each year. Like it's been well down.
The kids are keen on going and shooting ducks and
it's it's pretty hard to find them at times.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
How have things been over the past month anyway, Andrew?
Just business as usual. Winter has been as you predict.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Probably once has been a lot kinder than what we're predicting. Like,
we've still been getting grass growth pretty much all the
way through, which has been fantastic. And other than the
sort of a couple of week hiccups with some bit
of rain and some wet wee storms that have come through,
I think we've actually braved it pretty well so far.
But we do want to get winter out of the
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way in winter time, so seen us whatever rubbish is
coming through. See there's a wee bit coming through late
later today, so we'll get over and done with it.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Seems to be the case. But you wouldn't say it's
any cooler than normal for this time of yet.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
No.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
We always get those sort of roller frosts and that,
and but we had a we touch with puddles were
iced up this morning. The frost had actually gone off
the just to we breeze this morning to get rid
of it, So that's quite good. I think it was
what minus two when I got home last night, so
obviously the frost had gone off again.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
The difference of minus three to being zero. I mean
it was minus three yesterday morning and it was freezing
the bverbial, but today just being zero, I mean it
was quite pleasant going for a walk and not having
that little bit of extra chill about you, which sounds
a bit silly, but a couple of degrees makes all
the difference, right, Oh.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
It does, yep. And you can see it in the
stock to endy like they don't like giving the cold,
wet mornings and that either. So no, they're all looking
pretty good. It's good chance for everyone's doing scannings and
that sort of thing at the moment, so a good
chance to go through us and just have a look
at them. And the more decisions you can make now
early the better. So anything that's not hacking it, there's
usually always a tail and a mob somewhere that just
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get them out and put them in with your triplets
or with a separate mob and just start to do
them a bit better if you need to.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
How often do you put the use through the yard
to take off the tail lenders and such. I know
some people that do it every time they're running past
the yards.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, we'll try not to do it too often. I
probably should do it more often than what we do,
but so every couple of months you sort of just
have a look at the mob and just see or
even if you've given them a long walk along a
lane or something, it's just as easy just to cut
off the back five or ten us if they're just
not doing so well and run them around with your
b line of us or a mob that can pick
up crap.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Utilization it's been okay.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Oh fantastic. Yeah, I know we're looking real short with
the kales earlier on with having the grazed lambs on
them over the summer, but utilizations fantastic and the growth
that we've received out of the kale, like we did
hit it with one hundred and fifty kilos of nitrogen
and when we finished grazing it sort of late March,
and gee, it's responded really well. Crops have come back
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and looking fantastic.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Now, don't tell Chloe Sward bricks.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Yeah, no, it's just an another string to the bow
with kle I think it's a real there's been a
real game changer for us for how we how we
manage our farm with lamb fattening and just yea grazing
it in the in the winter time. It just gives
you so many more options.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Just one of the tools you've got to have in
that box down the OtherSide, the wires trainer in the cutters,
I suppose.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Yeah, that's pretty much at andy, So that's good. And
you never know what each season's going to throw it.
You just got to roll the punctures. But it just
gives you that bit of extra diversity that you can
ye pull those levers and you know that you've got
a bit of something's going to happen in the background
that you're going to need.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So you're content with scanning numbers.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
We've only done their early suft texas so far and yeah,
over those they were up about three percent on normal,
so happy with that. Surprisingly there was actually less less
triplets and more twins, which is fantastic. We're scanning the
rest of the years mid this week, so Wednesday Thursday
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going to be big days for us, bringing everything through
the yards and scanning them up and see how they go.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Sorry, snow, I was going to ask you, why do
you think that is?
Speaker 6 (25:11):
I don't know, Andy. If we could master that would
be we'd be able to retire from farming.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I think it's like reading the forecast and actually dictating
the weather a week out.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Yeah it is, yeah, because well the other thing, the
dry numbers would probably half a percent higher than normal,
but the overall scanning was up there three percent, So yeah,
I just can't quite put my finger on the pulse there.
But triplets weren't up was just extra twins on them.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Hell, are scanning numbers looking from the people you've been
speaking to you anyway.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
From what I've spoken to, all seemed to be about
the same sort of scanning up slightly. But also their
dry numbers are just up slightly as well. So yeah,
quite funny how that works and swings and roundabouts, but
we'll take it because yeah, triplets, so yeah, they can
be a blessing and a curse. It's good to have
the extra lambs they're available, but yeah, you've got to
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get live lambs through through the sales the key.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
So you're heading through the rest of winter. Imagine them
with a lot of positivity.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Absolutely, yep, and it's good like lamb prices are looking
really good going forward, beasts looking really good. It is
good having a bit of positivity and a bit of
cash flow coming through the system. You actually feel like
you can do a few things on the farm that
you've been putting off the last couple of seasons.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And good money for dryes.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yes, yep, that's right. So yeah, that's the other thing
to sort of get them out and yeah, get those
gone and feed the ones of the there your productive
use of the left, get them cranking and get them now.
Now's the time to make decisions on how good they're
going to rear, the lambs and everything and milk, and
just keep those that condition on the use the beast
you can, and I know it's easy to say and
hard to achieve.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Now go wonder as you're still putting on the boats,
how's it been.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yeah're still strapping on the boats. So we're done playing
at Sarry Park against I hope you will, hope I am.
Saturday ended up with a one all draw down there.
Wh's a bit frustrating because we totally dominated and probably
would have had five or six goals in the first half.
But then yeah, just I don't blame my old leagues.
I suppose to get a bit tired in the second
half and just they come back into the game and
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we've started a bit of ping pong with kicking the
ball forward and back rather than actually playing it round.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's what football's about, though, isn't it just kicking the round?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Well, yeah, I know anyone watching a bit of the
World Cup, it's quite a skill within those players can
pass and and yeah, like they received the ball chest
tight and they can just drop it straight to their feet.
I don't know how they do that, but yeah, good
on them.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So who wins the tournament for you? I've got England,
Argentina and Spain against France. The first time for the
top four ranked nations have made it through to the semifinals. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Yeah, it's fantastic to see. And there's been some great
games they've played in the last few days, close matches.
I've got England and the sweepstakes for me, so I'm
sort of pushing them on to try and go all
the way. But yeah, my gut feeling sees it's going
to be probably a France Argentina final.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
It'll be interest for English though, I mean, I actually
think they've got as much chance as anybody is winning
this tournament. And they haven't won the Football feef for
World Cup since nineteen sixty six, and they're just all
reminiscing about when they won it. They want it so badly,
so so badly that.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
I sure do. Yep, that's right. They're yeah, they're really
pushing for it. But so that's how it goes at
the end of the day. It's yeah, and that's the
national sport over there. We think that rugby's big here,
but when you see the crowds and there in the
stadium's there, it's just unreal what the crowds get behind
them over there.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Absolutely, Hey, good on your snow. We'll let you carry on.
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Speaker 6 (28:43):
Good his gold cheers.
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Andy Andrew Walsh have Twin Farm Genetics up next. Ellen Clark,
you're listening to the Muster. Welcome back to the Muster.
The music today is Foreigner. I want to Know what
Love is featured on the Rock of Ages soundtrack, which
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came out the movie that came out in the mid
twenty tens. As we catch up next with Alex Clark
of KWS, Alex, Welcome to the muster.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Hi Andy, thanks for having me know.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Firstly, Alex, to the uninitiated, explain what KWS is about.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Hey, Look, So KWS is a European based company, been
in New Zealand for about three years now and together
with Bayer May we've brought the Conviviso smart system to
New Zealand to sort of redefine how we control weeds
in New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Now you look at weeds and crops, it's an issue
for a lot of people. You think back to the
days of ridging the look, we're looking at a different
area now and everything is just in a different ballgame situation, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
One.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
And to sort of add to that, you know, like
years years of CROs thing may have sort of made
it just even harder to be growing our crops in
New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
We look at the Conveso Smart system, Alex, and I
suppose the key question is what's so good about it?
What makes it work like it does?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
So the real beauty of the Conveso system is how
early we can attack these weeds and the conventional chemistry
sort of you know, when we look at the size
of the beat, generally you're having to wait till it's
developed the good four to six leafs before we can
come in and really attack these weeds. With the Conveso
smart system, Andy, you know, you could be coming in
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a cod lead and to really clean up these weeds,
which is going to allow our crops to get to
canopy a lot faster. And the beauty of it may
is that you come in at nice and early and
we're giving the crop the whole season to grow and
we're not constantly attacking it with chemistry.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
As far as yields and crops. What are we seeing there?
If you've got the chemistry right, it sort.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Of depends, you know, like if you're up in the
tager on net and you're sitting underneath pivots. Look, it
could be how long a piece of string, But you know,
we're seeing guys getting around that thirty two to thirty
four ton mark moving a bit further down to south
and traditional growing systems without the pivots, and look, twenty
eight tons would be quite easily achieved. Andy.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You look at winter systems and how they deviate them.
We've talked about it just briefly. Alex touched on it
regarding swedes and the likes. But this day and age,
it's a totally different ballgame. Eye. You can just you know,
everyone's trying to get the yields up there, but it's
about maximizing bank for back.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, one hundred percy and I think that I can, sorry,
I see can be so changing the game in terms
of their sense per kg a dry meta. If you're
having to grow a conventional B crop and you're using
three plus sprays versus the two sprays of airs, Yeah,
it's a bit of a no brainer. Andy.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
So it just makes life all have a lot simpler
when you're trying to get the canopy. Establishers like you
elude to.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Mate and then you know, grolers can focus on the
other things that are important.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Now, when you look at the season on a hole
down here in the south has been cool and crisp
recently up there in central Otago, how are they faring?
Is it no different to any other season?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Would you say, oh, no, pretty standing may look i've
had a bit of snow and that recently up in
central but I'd like I think everyone's pretty happy. I
had the pleasure of coming up to where last week
and you know, still seeing cows standing on top of
the soil mate, so you know, these are good things
to see for our farmers.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Absolutely, Now, Alex, if people wanted to learn more about
Convizo or KWS as such, where do they go? How
do they learn more? Hey?
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Look, I'd be talking to your local gronomus first and foremost,
and you can ask them about the system and everything else.
And if not, you can jump onto kW us dot
com and get hold of all the myself locally down
south on the Tago or Simon up in Canterbury.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Hey, good only Alex, thanks your time this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Hey, thanks and.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Alex Clark of KWS talking about the Conviso Smart system.
Morgan Mitchell was up next for Eastern Northern Barbarians to
talk about an epic game of rugby that occurred over
the weekend. Welcome Back to the Muster. A pretty yep
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a game of football unfolded over the weekend, with the
Eastern Northern Barbarians beating playates Oul Boys forty to twenty
eight in one hundred men hundred minute extravaganza of rugby union.
Morgan Mitchell keptain of the Bar Bars joint us in
studio this afternoon. Morgan, good afternoon. Firstly, a mess of congratulations.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Hey, no, I thank you very much for that. He
was pretty special to get that ticked off. Yeah, let
the celebration continue and yeah, and that's been a hell
of abroad in the last couple of days. So that's
what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Now, speaking to you on Saturday evening briefly, and your
regular wouldn't have been till yesterday when you guys gathered
and that's when it really started to kick in the
achievement of what had occurred.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Yeah, sort of felt like that last time when we
first won. You know, yeah, that Saturday night's just a
Saturday night, you know, Yeah, we've got the shield, but
yeah that's Sunday when you're getting on the shed all
together as a team. When that shield come through that
first study, that really sink it on. You know, we
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are the Gearbotion winners, you know what I mean. So yeah,
so that's when I think, well, that's when it kicked
in for me, but I think it would have kept
down a few people as well.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
So yeah, now you have won two get O Shields, now,
is it right?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
How is that compared to the first time back in
twenty sixteen? Of course yourself, Brenton Howd and Lockey McCall
survivors from ten years ago.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Yeah. But the funny one is, see the first one
was just good to get the monkey off the back,
and then it's secret one.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
We had to go one hundred minutes to get that
game to win that one. So I remember that first one.
We were down seventeen in the first twenty minutes and
yeah we Yeah, me and the boys learned from that.
And I said to the boys in this second one,
you know it just controlled your emotions, control your game,
control everything, and we've got it. And I think we
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did that well.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, so it was a case on Saturday of keeping
emotions in cheap because a lot of the younger players.
Let's be honest, you're at the Big Dance.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Yeah, it's probably wrong with me saying it. You's just
got to play. It's another game, because that's how you
play the game.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (36:00):
Yeah, it's the final you just keep getting Becky heap,
but you know you don't have to be a hero
to be in the final. It takes twenty three players
to win the finals, so and we did that.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, So what was different than the build up because,
like you say, you trade it like another game, but
ultimately there's a lot at stake as well.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Oh yeah there was. There was a lot going on.
There was, yeah, a few miskicks and two penalties going
against us and whatnot. So you know, the build up
was good. Everything was the same. So that's just finals,
you know, finals, fuddy, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
How would that rank for you? You've won the Renfrelly
Shield before more, You're not a lot of people can
say the round, the Renfrely Shield and the Gale Brave Shield.
What's the difference for you? I mean different goals in
mind with winning each trophy, but what's stood up for
you can when you compere the two.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
No, I wouldn't say there's not a lot of difference
because a shield means, you know, the Gebo Shield, it's
awesome to the self, awesome for a week community it's
a northern community and then read and fully shield it
was awesome for South and for the province. You know,
I never really got to experience a reading fully shield
experience until we got it, and that was different, whereas
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a Gabo shield, I've experienced it, so I knew what
was coming. So both very special shields in yea. It's
good way to wrap it off a lot that.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, Now from your perspective, that's it. The playing days
are over and done with. The boots are in.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
The bin, absolutely bagged. I had probably a whole role
of strapping tape to hold them.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Uth.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So you threw them in the bin after the game.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
Yeah, now after you of the boys keep them? I said, no,
look at them.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Somebody would check them on trade me you make a
bit of money.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
They were no good, they were bagged. So yeah, the
bin was the best post for them.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
And from your angle again, do you look back at
you're playing rare with no regrets?
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Ah, yeah, I guess you can say that. Yeah, nothing
really comes to my mind. I wish i'd done that
and done that.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
No, I think.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
I had no regrets. Yeah, you're go, Yeah, I'm happy
with everything. How it's all folded out.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, And you look at the club competition and general
likes of Premier Yere Rugby. The Barbers stood out this year.
You guys only dropped the one game before the semi final.
There seems to be a competition though, and yes there's
not a lot of teams involved. We've talked about this before, mate,
but regarding the finals format, it certainly just brought it
to brings everything to the four and everybody just focuses
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on what that shield means.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Yes, hope. See, well, in that round robin, we're struggling
for numbers. That first round we couldn't. We only hit
one prop preserved, you know what I mean. There's just
limited players around and limited numbers. And when we got
around to that second second round, Evyon was back and
that's when we're starting to pull the strengthen, you know,
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making the results. And yeah, we did lose to Woodlands,
and credit to them. I think we got a lot
of learnings out of that game. That's probably what set
us up to the final and everything. So yeah, I
guess every games plays a part to the final. You know,
we're down twenty twenty odd points at Maris and we
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still come back and won that. So I think that
built the team character and that we could believe in it.
So look, yeah, we got it done in a one
hundredth minutes. So yeah, all those week games that we
played throughout the season did help past to get on
that final. I think we'll.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Talk about Pirates old Boys, your opposition on Saturday. They've
been to the Big Dance three times in a row.
Now they beat you guys three years ago. Aigably one
of the best club players in Southern club rugby, Greg Dyer.
He just he knows how to roll the game.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Yes, he's very talent to play great boat, great rugby.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Mind.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
You know you look at Pob and I've been in
the final so many times. Yeah, credit to him to
drive that team around everywhere. Yeah, it's great special power.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Now, as far as the celebrations from your perspective, who's
been based on park for that? Who's really still out
over the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
A lot to say it was me, but ah, I'll
probably have to say Jacob Cochlan. He's just keeps taking away.
He's got the shield with him. He's been evil to say.
I'll give it to him.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
You've got free milkshake just for carting around town last night.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
But the sie of that, I'm almost out that one.
But hopefully we get a three three three beers oft
them today.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
So yeah, so for you now you're working for rural Livestock,
you're a stock agent. How's that going? You'll be enjoying it.
I'd say it's life after rugby for you.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
Yeah, absolutely, love and A. It's just it's like a game.
You know, you're trying to beat the other agents to
make a deal. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, the farmers
are awesome. Yeah, it's what actually gets me out of beat.
Now I've got a new patient for stock agents. So yeah,
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loving a. Yeah, that's probably what I sort of called
quits on. I've been focused on work and family and
that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
So likes of next year pre season. AJ calls up, mate,
we need someone who in a front ralph for a game.
That's it, no chance.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
I've told him plenty of times. You've got plenty of
time to go find plenty of props, so so he
knows we're also. Yeah, we'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Absolutely hate good on your mortgie top. Thanks for taking
time out of your busy schedule today. We know you've
got things to go and do with the team to
celebrate moments like this because I don't come around all
that often. Thanks once again for coming into the muster,
having a yarn into the barbars. Congratulations, and you've brought
the shield back down to the country. Good on you.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Yeah, he thank you very much having me on and
I really do appreciate all the support you guys have
and it's been special coupley days and we'll see what
the next couple of days too, So thank you very
much for him.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
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I'm Andy muer This has been the muster on Hot Cano.
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Good afternoon and welcome to the musterin Hakanui. I mean
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The show is brought to you by Peters and Unix's. Firstly,
apologies for the kroggy voice. This is all due to
being on the sidelines of the Galbra Shield final on
Saturday afternoon, which we're going to focus on later on
in the hour. But what a tremendous game of rugby
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one hundred minutes for the final. It couldn't get any
better than that. Pirate's old Boys worthy foes in that
final as well with the Barbers getting the chocolates. But look,
as far as rugby goes, it was an outstanding day
and the Lez George Ovaal in immaculate condition as well.
So yeah, feeling a bit rencid as a result of that,
(00:49):
but nonetheless a big weekend sport. Brenda McCallum as well,
Besball's no more in Test cricket. He got the sack overnight,
the A B's and the Wars they won again, wimbled
in even though it's not on Telly Yannick Cinner won that.
The black Caps, as we heard on the news end
they're playing in the West Indies at the moment. That's
kind of flying under the radar. Fifty over crack at Hell,
(01:10):
Good and England against Argentina and France Spain and the
Football World Cup semi's happening this week, so there's a
bit going on. The music today is foreigner as well.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
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Speaker 1 (01:36):
This afternoon sunshine with breezing or easterlies and tena is
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It was called on Christ thirst thing, but looking out
here at the moment it's it's a Bobby dazzlert a
coin of phrase. Tomorrow afternoon sholls like northwesterlies five and
ten again ritch a repeat on Wednesday with morning showers
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and breezy westerlies five and ten. Thursday morning showers of
westleys six and eleven, and Friday afternoon shellers and all
westleys five. We're reaching the Guinea heights of twelve degrees. Yeah.
He are bring it on saw terriages this afternoon, very
limited Clinton two point six and Winton three point four.
Jamie King of Lake Eroko starts us off in the
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Sergeant Dam Farming roundup this afternoon. Penny Simmons MP for
him for Cargo, talking about the Indian Free Trade Agreement
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Andrew Walsh of Twin Farm Genetics at home of Teffron,
sponsors of the five day forecast. Here on the Muster,
we catch up with snow see how things are in
the way Mare Valley. Alex Clark of KWS is having
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you out as well, talking crop heels in their Morgan
Mitchell Captain of the Eastern Northern Barbarians Morghi's in studio
and we asked a question, was that the final game
for mister Mann on Saturday. So without further ado, we'll
get on with the show. We're starting off with Jamie King.
You're listening to the Muster seven after why check in?
(03:11):
Jamie Kane gets us underway this afternoon on the Muster,
farming at Lake Eroco and joining us in the Sergeant
Dan Farming Groundup. Thanks of course the Sergeant dan Stock Foods.
We go and catch up with various farmers from around
the Southern province and we do it every Monday here
on the program. Jamie, good afternoon, Good mate, here a
were going today. It was a big weekend to wait.
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To be honest, the girl brace Shield came back to Gore
and the wind had a couple of quiets, as you
do on Saturday night. And yeah, I'm getting better now,
thanks for asking.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, it sounds like your fevers on atout one hundred
and three too for you, mate, not.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
One hundred and three. But when you start getting older,
you've you've certainly got your kryptonite when it comes to
having a couple of cans.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
That's right, mate, And it's the first thing you forged
about when you're hitting a couple as the consequence of
sometimes but that's all right, you good points and.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We've absolutely mate. Loud Laker. Okay, how are you guys
fearing over there? We've had a run of frosts here
and Gore. Today's actually been reasonably mild. Sounds as though
you've had a bit of rain.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I mean we're pretty wet there the last well, yeah,
seven eight days ago over the weekend mat think we
ended up with about eighty mil. But we've had a
huge run of frost and it's teaming down right about now.
I think short chart one again, but you know it's yeah,
it was more traditional with snow on the mountains again
and but it's just winter tour and endy. But all
in all, gon pretty good grass. We sort of went
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a bit gray and yellow with all the frosts, but
it's just hanging around there, covers just sitting probably where
we need them and want them hollow down.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Would the snow be on the hills, No, it's.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Still right up on the tusso mate, right up hi.
You know, we don't like we're any the bottom farm.
We're one hundred minutes above sea level, so from the
tops a three hundred I think. But we've had nothing
dusting up on top yet. So again, gamm pretty good
to be fair andy. Yeah, just took him away on
top of them to school holidays and just winter mode
yet again.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
The lake of snowfall heading into the middle of July.
It's intriguing.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, I think what is up there will hang around
for a wee bit. Well on that night with a
couple of inches around, it might just siprotate. But yeah,
well finally it might be a good year to own
a skifield to say they're back into a charge and
so they'll be probably the earliest those boys have got going. Yeah,
but no, just wait and see what's coming around the
corner with all the seal Nino chef and what have you,
and just hopefully we can get a spring in a
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summer maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Andy, So how scanning and the like Spain Jamie.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yet I think Scotty just finished again in the yesterday.
I think, well, I just what was about one hundred
and semi five across the whole lot that's to do
some mixed age cast rages even him. So it's probably
that you is. We're in good Nick. Yeah, everything's still
in pretty good conditional with careful stock and yeah nothing's
nothing's getting nothing's on controlled starvation yet. So that's quite nice,
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good place to be just at the moment.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So yeah, and that's a reasonable skinning number as well.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, we don't said must have a way few more
in them losses. But I mean if we get a
traditional spring, that's it just makes the makes a big
difference on supportability. So but yeah, that's more probably enough
enough for us at the stage and we'll just meet
another nature just sort on the wrist.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Singles do they go on to crop shortly?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yep, yep. Now the singles will beyond crop and to
just tick around on the grass and triple it's all
way up. They'll be getting getting feed and looked after
with a bit of a curse. But I mean, you've
got to do everything you can. They didn't. They don't
get to ask any lambs I've got on them, So
you just do everything you can. Signs twin being cares
but yeah, know you just see that. Yeah, just plug away,
just feed. It's always good to feed stocking.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And as far as tripless, do you just find them
an absolute nuisance or is it a case of it
is what it is. And you know, if if you
want to go around there on your lambing bait you
they just be a lamb there.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You got to be fee mate. I don't do much
on the sheep front around here, which there's a lot
of people over when we kettled and the man and then
obviously with enough scale, the account's going to look after that.
But now they do what they can and putting shord
one off here and need to do bit of mother
and at the Peddican just fill the gaps and being
through the whole lamb wearing things, a couple of machines
and that and done it for a couple of years
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and just seeing what rolled at the bottom and going forward,
it might be worth a crack again to rease on
those Lambs. But I don't know that there's a lot
of work there's and look a lot of sheep out
there's a lot of work in them. So but yeah,
I just just called card as we say it.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Really, it'll be interesting how those markets go, especially Lambs
last week at Loanville cracking four hundred dollars for the tops.
So you know, we're saying the money that's coming out
for these spring contracts just pretty much reflective of the
market too.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, it's dangerous, Graham, but I don't
know we need it. Perhaps it would be nice thing
that's going to hang around that Probably the Ovale market
probably scares me more so than the Ovo and Mark. Yeah,
but it's just interesting you stayed with them. What's sitting
on the world stage. You know what. The Lambs obviously
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got a bit more competition was to go to that internationally,
so but we'll wait and see. We'll just wait and see.
At least their their newest horor shown freezing plants have
been well a lot more competitive and more grassroots, So
we'll baby steps.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Did you say then bowvine worries you more than ovine
or the other way around, the other way.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Around, mate, Yeah, probably hanging my head on the bow
lines a bit better for probably longer term at the stage.
But just what's done on this in the US and
as long as mister Trump's all there. But yeah, it's
all part in that it made at the end of the day,
I suppose.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So the lamb situation, what you made your concern that
we're just everything's peaked.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, just yeah, I think it's probably climbed up quite quickly.
And obviously if history resuming or markets, if something goes
up very quickly, it tends to fall down very quickly,
whereas the big things sort of just try to way
for probably two years, I suppose, and it's got as
to where we are and it's you know, just taking along.
So I don't know, maybe it's a I'm just skim
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and green or overthinking that. Mate.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We'll wait and see, Yeah, talking about Alliance and Dawn Meets.
There's been a couple of meetings down in the South recently,
and I made the observation the other day that a
couple of people who are a bit cimical about this
all going through, well, what's done is done now, But
they reckon there's a lot more of a pragmatic approach
and a lot more you know, matter of fact situation
(09:31):
with Nile Brown and Co. Given the door meet says,
come in with their big majority share.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Oh absolutely, maton. I catch up with Nile when it
all sort of happened, and he's definitely that way inclined.
You know, you don't be a fourth to fifth generation
Irish meat company for no reason and it will get
get shipped done sort of style. But I mean, look
what had with those Greenley plants the other day. I
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mean he bought a he bought a million dollar house
mate for you know, eighty grand, didn't he so, which
absolutely anyone will do. So that's probably been a very
good investment for his sort of things, but so far
he has sort of dead. It's taking along the right,
No one's complaining. Still probably scorned the way a bit,
the way it all worked out but looking more g sail,
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wasn't it, But however we can't. I'm not a big
one looking back in. He just looked forward, box on.
It'll be interest with the future holds.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Just quickly to wrap up the old Black's got the
job done over Esaly at the weekend. But look from
his self in perspective asan the great good to see
him do the antlers up. But Josh Morby as well,
let's not forget he played a few games down here
for South and but gee he's had a wicked season
for the Hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah mate, yeah, yeah, no he was. He was definitely
outstanding there on when he come on on Saturday, he
had just deserved. Everybody got sex. We'll growing up there
for a couple of crackers. Yeah that was interesting test
but pretty messy. But yeah, I suppose you look bed
Hurricanes for of winning the wolf. That's the provincial Super
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fourteen team. I'd love to put the team up against
a and all exit and see how we went. But
they're still going to work through there. But they Yeah,
it's this promises potential for early days, so we'll we'll
wait and seeing a couple of debut and see its
sort of made a bit of an them picked. So
that's good to see.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Well, the problem was if they played the wake, the
players playing for two teams at once. I don't know
how make that work.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
No, that's right, you need to clone some people.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
We won't.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Bring back Dolly the Sheep, I say, Jamie King, always
good to catch up, he spottle, make good on you.
Check in, Jamie King of Laca Roko. Thanks to Sergeant
Dan the Saturn Day Firm and ground up. Every Monday
here on the Master. Penny Simmons is up. Next, team
from the Cargo coming Welcome back to the Master. Penny
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Simmons has in p from Miccago and joins us. Penny,
good afternoon, always good to catch up. How have things
been recently? Oh? Good?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Thanks and yes, great week. Last week down in Vicago,
we had quite a lot of things going on. We
had Paolo Garcia, the MP for New Lynn. He was
down meeting with a lot of our Filipino community. Paolo
was the first ever Filipino to be elected as an
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electorate MP in New Zealand's parliament. Lovely, lovely man. He's
a lawyer. He came down and spoke with a Filipino
community and also a number of Shrank and Netoalie, so
that was really nice. We had the big twenty five
year celebrations for zero fees at st they invited me
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along to be a keynote speaker for that, and a
lot of meetings with constituents last week which was just
great to spend some time in Southland meeting up with
people that have been sort of meeting a while now.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Are the honest Penny. I'm aware of the majority of
MPs for National that are in Parliament, but mister Garcia
is one that is flying flowing under the radar.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah, yeah, Look, he's a very quiet gentleman, but he's
a very respectful, really decent man. And yeah he's not
standing again, but he's been a quiet achiever for us
just in the background working with the Filipino community, and
of course in south And we have a big Filipino community,
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and there's a wee bit of an issue that Filipino
people tend not to make wills. It's not part of
their culture, and that's actually starting to become a real
issue because of course in New Zealand you need to
have a will or else you can spend quite a
long time without access to bank accounts and things. So
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he was just talking to them about that, about why
you need to make a will here, and the difference
between not having a will and having a will. So
it's just a cultural thing that over in the Philippines,
you don't talk about the death of an alder. You don't.
It's disrespectful and so and it doesn't It isn't such
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a big deal over there. But of course a number
of Filipino families now have quite significant assets here in
the dairy industry. They have heard the cows and you know,
it's quite a significant thing now, death without a will,
So it was nice having them down.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's a really scary thought for a lot of people,
not realizing that wills need to be in place, especially
for immigrants.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, it's a cultural thing. In the Philippines, it's not
unusual at all not to have a will. But over here,
of course, it courses all sorts of issues with our
dow and it means that the grieving families going through
this difficult grieving time but also having to deal with
issues like not being able to get access to bank
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accounts and not being able to pay mortgages. And so
it can be a.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Real issue zero phase as well. You'll know this story
as good as anybody. It's been a big success.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Yes, look it was lovely. It was just a really
nice moment to be able to reflect on the zerof story.
A lot of the representatives from the original ones that
were involved with there. Of course the ilt, the community trust,
the local authorities, and it was lovely to have Scott
and joshs o'donald there from HWR because Bill was very involved.
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Bill Richardson was very involved with helping us work through
the financials and so it was lovely to have a
lot of Southland identities there to celebrate.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
You find it underasing as well regarding New Zealand First
and their opposition to the free trade agreement with India.
But Mark Patterson, he is Associate Minister of Agriculture, but
he's been over in India promoting war. You think this
is a bit of a sticking point.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Well, it's something of an irony that New Zealand First
haven't been supporting us with the India free Trade agreement
and Mark's over there spending time promoting strong will, which
is great than our second biggest country that we export
strong wall too, and that's great, but actually a free
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trade agreement has going out that enormously, so it's something
of an irony there. But look, the free trade agreement
obviously came to the fall with part mister Modi here
over the weekend, and you know there's a lot happening already.
Apples have seen a sixty three percent increase in the
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amount of apples that have been exported. K we fruit's
going to be a big deal. So look, it's it's
all ed having an impact on our export income with India.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
But as a fair enough Mark Patterson being over there
due to the fact that he is there in a
ministerial position, yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
I don't look, it's absolutely fair enough and it's good
friend to be doing it. It's just something of an
irony that he's seeing big opportunity. He's an India for
a strong rule but not supporting the free trade agreement.
But look good on him being.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Over there in the employ minister or in Dramodi. Like
you say, he's an absolute rockster. And I heard the
comparison made on the radio this morning. When have you
heard Christopher Laksen even to cinder Ada and anybody walking
into an ambitheater of thirty twenty thirty thousand people. If
their name's being chanted, it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
No, he is absolutely a Rochester and there's no doubt
that under his time the wealth of the Indian community
has really taken off. The look at such a big population,
one point four billion people. It's hard for us to
comprehend that. I've been to India a number of times
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in my past life and look that the population, the
ser volume of people is overwhelming. But that's just such
a big opportunity for us in a little country like us,
with five million people and their prime minister coming to
visit us and being really friendly with us and wanting
that relationship. It just opens up so many doors for
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us with our export goods. So yeah, a real rock star.
People the Indian community here and in Australia absolutely love them,
and certainly in India he is credited with lifting literally
hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. Still a
big divide there between the wealthy and the poor, but
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he's lifted hundreds of millions up into that middle class
income bracket.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, okay, that being said, New Zealand being a small
country like we are, should we really be committing you
as twenty billion dollars a private investment to go to
India within fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Well, we're not committing it. We're working towards. That's the aim.
It's an objective to be working towards. And the more
that we can build that relationship the better. There's already
relationships there. Certainly a lot of the tertiary institutions have
relationships in India. They'll have joint campuses in India. So
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it's across the board and it's over a long period
of time and it's an objective to aim for.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Just Finally, there's been some policy announcements that are flown
under the radar.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, look we have and some of these things
don't get noticed, but they are really important, like the
uplift for the community pharmacies. I think it's a three
point five or three point six percent increase. Of course,
we did the increase ford the GPS and also for
aged care facilities and you know they've we've all been
(20:06):
doing it tough. We recognize that. So you know, it
don't sound like big important announcements, but actually for those
businesses they are. And so it's good to be able
to have been able to provide those small uplifts.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Penny Simmons always appreciate your time on the Muster.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Great to talk to you, Andy, Thanks Spy.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Penny Simmons, MP OF and VCAGO. We're talking about the
rock star that is Indian Prime Minister. This is the
muster up next, Andrew welsh you're willing. This is the
muster on Hakanui. Andrew Welsh o a twin farm Genetics,
a home of Teff Frahm and sponsor of the five
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day forecast here on the Muster as well as hakanu
He joins us. Good afternoon, snow way mere valley. How
are things you know?
Speaker 6 (20:55):
But it's fantastic ry, Yeah, beautiful sunrisess morning. It's good
to get out and yeah, move those stock and nice
sort of a warm morning.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
You can hear the plotters in the background as we speak.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Yeah, yeap, just out. But he moved some sheep out
here and some stubble paddocks and yeah, got the old
Perry still hanging around in the background.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
If you still have many ducks floating about in.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
General, there's a wee few, but definitely not the numbers
we normally get. Each year. Like it's been well down.
The kids are keen on going and shooting ducks and
it's it's pretty hard to find them at times.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
How have things been over the past month anyway, Andrew?
Just business as usual. Winter has been as you predict.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Probably once has been a lot kinder than what we're predicting. Like,
we've still been getting grass growth pretty much all the
way through, which has been fantastic. And other than the
sort of a couple of week hiccups with some bit
of rain and some wet wee storms that have come through,
I think we've actually braved it pretty well so far.
But we do want to get winter out of the
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way in winter time, so seen us whatever rubbish is
coming through. See there's a wee bit coming through late
later today, so we'll get over and done with it.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Seems to be the case. But you wouldn't say it's
any cooler than normal for this time of yet.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
No.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
We always get those sort of roller frosts and that,
and but we had a we touch with puddles were
iced up this morning. The frost had actually gone off
the just to we breeze this morning to get rid
of it, So that's quite good. I think it was
what minus two when I got home last night, so
obviously the frost had gone off again.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
The difference of minus three to being zero. I mean
it was minus three yesterday morning and it was freezing
the bverbial, but today just being zero, I mean it
was quite pleasant going for a walk and not having
that little bit of extra chill about you, which sounds
a bit silly, but a couple of degrees makes all
the difference, right, Oh.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
It does, yep. And you can see it in the
stock to endy like they don't like giving the cold,
wet mornings and that either. So no, they're all looking
pretty good. It's good chance for everyone's doing scannings and
that sort of thing at the moment, so a good
chance to go through us and just have a look
at them. And the more decisions you can make now
early the better. So anything that's not hacking it, there's
usually always a tail and a mob somewhere that just
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get them out and put them in with your triplets
or with a separate mob and just start to do
them a bit better if you need to.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
How often do you put the use through the yard
to take off the tail lenders and such. I know
some people that do it every time they're running past
the yards.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, we'll try not to do it too often. I
probably should do it more often than what we do,
but so every couple of months you sort of just
have a look at the mob and just see or
even if you've given them a long walk along a
lane or something, it's just as easy just to cut
off the back five or ten us if they're just
not doing so well and run them around with your
b line of us or a mob that can pick
up crap.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Utilization it's been okay.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Oh fantastic. Yeah, I know we're looking real short with
the kales earlier on with having the grazed lambs on
them over the summer, but utilizations fantastic and the growth
that we've received out of the kale, like we did
hit it with one hundred and fifty kilos of nitrogen
and when we finished grazing it sort of late March,
and gee, it's responded really well. Crops have come back
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and looking fantastic.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Now, don't tell Chloe Sward bricks.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Yeah, no, it's just an another string to the bow
with kle I think it's a real there's been a
real game changer for us for how we how we
manage our farm with lamb fattening and just yea grazing
it in the in the winter time. It just gives
you so many more options.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Just one of the tools you've got to have in
that box down the OtherSide, the wires trainer in the cutters,
I suppose.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Yeah, that's pretty much at andy, So that's good. And
you never know what each season's going to throw it.
You just got to roll the punctures. But it just
gives you that bit of extra diversity that you can
ye pull those levers and you know that you've got
a bit of something's going to happen in the background
that you're going to need.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
So you're content with scanning numbers.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
We've only done their early suft texas so far and yeah,
over those they were up about three percent on normal,
so happy with that. Surprisingly there was actually less less
triplets and more twins, which is fantastic. We're scanning the
rest of the years mid this week, so Wednesday Thursday
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going to be big days for us, bringing everything through
the yards and scanning them up and see how they go.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Sorry, snow, I was going to ask you, why do
you think that is?
Speaker 6 (25:11):
I don't know, Andy. If we could master that would
be we'd be able to retire from farming.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I think it's like reading the forecast and actually dictating
the weather a week out.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Yeah it is, yeah, because well the other thing, the
dry numbers would probably half a percent higher than normal,
but the overall scanning was up there three percent, So yeah,
I just can't quite put my finger on the pulse there.
But triplets weren't up was just extra twins on them.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Hell, are scanning numbers looking from the people you've been
speaking to you anyway.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
From what I've spoken to, all seemed to be about
the same sort of scanning up slightly. But also their
dry numbers are just up slightly as well. So yeah,
quite funny how that works and swings and roundabouts, but
we'll take it because yeah, triplets, so yeah, they can
be a blessing and a curse. It's good to have
the extra lambs they're available, but yeah, you've got to
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get live lambs through through the sales the key.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
So you're heading through the rest of winter. Imagine them
with a lot of positivity.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Absolutely, yep, and it's good like lamb prices are looking
really good going forward, beasts looking really good. It is
good having a bit of positivity and a bit of
cash flow coming through the system. You actually feel like
you can do a few things on the farm that
you've been putting off the last couple of seasons.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And good money for dryes.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yes, yep, that's right. So yeah, that's the other thing
to sort of get them out and yeah, get those
gone and feed the ones of the there your productive
use of the left, get them cranking and get them now.
Now's the time to make decisions on how good they're
going to rear, the lambs and everything and milk, and
just keep those that condition on the use the beast
you can, and I know it's easy to say and
hard to achieve.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Now go wonder as you're still putting on the boats,
how's it been.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yeah're still strapping on the boats. So we're done playing
at Sarry Park against I hope you will, hope I am.
Saturday ended up with a one all draw down there.
Wh's a bit frustrating because we totally dominated and probably
would have had five or six goals in the first half.
But then yeah, just I don't blame my old leagues.
I suppose to get a bit tired in the second
half and just they come back into the game and
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we've started a bit of ping pong with kicking the
ball forward and back rather than actually playing it round.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's what football's about, though, isn't it just kicking the round?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Well, yeah, I know anyone watching a bit of the
World Cup, it's quite a skill within those players can
pass and and yeah, like they received the ball chest
tight and they can just drop it straight to their feet.
I don't know how they do that, but yeah, good
on them.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So who wins the tournament for you? I've got England,
Argentina and Spain against France. The first time for the
top four ranked nations have made it through to the semifinals. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Yeah, it's fantastic to see. And there's been some great
games they've played in the last few days, close matches.
I've got England and the sweepstakes for me, so I'm
sort of pushing them on to try and go all
the way. But yeah, my gut feeling sees it's going
to be probably a France Argentina final.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
It'll be interest for English though, I mean, I actually
think they've got as much chance as anybody is winning
this tournament. And they haven't won the Football feef for
World Cup since nineteen sixty six, and they're just all
reminiscing about when they won it. They want it so badly,
so so badly that.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
I sure do. Yep, that's right. They're yeah, they're really
pushing for it. But so that's how it goes at
the end of the day. It's yeah, and that's the
national sport over there. We think that rugby's big here,
but when you see the crowds and there in the
stadium's there, it's just unreal what the crowds get behind
them over there.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Absolutely, Hey, good on your snow. We'll let you carry on.
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Speaker 6 (28:43):
Good his gold cheers.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Andy Andrew Walsh have Twin Farm Genetics up next. Ellen Clark,
you're listening to the Muster. Welcome back to the Muster.
The music today is Foreigner. I want to Know what
Love is featured on the Rock of Ages soundtrack, which
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came out the movie that came out in the mid
twenty tens. As we catch up next with Alex Clark
of KWS, Alex, Welcome to the muster.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Hi Andy, thanks for having me know.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Firstly, Alex, to the uninitiated, explain what KWS is about.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Hey, Look, So KWS is a European based company, been
in New Zealand for about three years now and together
with Bayer May we've brought the Conviviso smart system to
New Zealand to sort of redefine how we control weeds
in New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Now you look at weeds and crops, it's an issue
for a lot of people. You think back to the
days of ridging the look, we're looking at a different
area now and everything is just in a different ballgame situation, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
One.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
And to sort of add to that, you know, like
years years of CROs thing may have sort of made
it just even harder to be growing our crops in
New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
We look at the Conveso Smart system, Alex, and I
suppose the key question is what's so good about it?
What makes it work like it does?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
So the real beauty of the Conveso system is how
early we can attack these weeds and the conventional chemistry
sort of you know, when we look at the size
of the beat, generally you're having to wait till it's
developed the good four to six leafs before we can
come in and really attack these weeds. With the Conveso
smart system, Andy, you know, you could be coming in
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a cod lead and to really clean up these weeds,
which is going to allow our crops to get to
canopy a lot faster. And the beauty of it may
is that you come in at nice and early and
we're giving the crop the whole season to grow and
we're not constantly attacking it with chemistry.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
As far as yields and crops. What are we seeing there?
If you've got the chemistry right, it sort.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Of depends, you know, like if you're up in the
tager on net and you're sitting underneath pivots. Look, it
could be how long a piece of string, But you know,
we're seeing guys getting around that thirty two to thirty
four ton mark moving a bit further down to south
and traditional growing systems without the pivots, and look, twenty
eight tons would be quite easily achieved. Andy.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You look at winter systems and how they deviate them.
We've talked about it just briefly. Alex touched on it
regarding swedes and the likes. But this day and age,
it's a totally different ballgame. Eye. You can just you know,
everyone's trying to get the yields up there, but it's
about maximizing bank for back.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, one hundred percy and I think that I can, sorry,
I see can be so changing the game in terms
of their sense per kg a dry meta. If you're
having to grow a conventional B crop and you're using
three plus sprays versus the two sprays of airs, Yeah,
it's a bit of a no brainer. Andy.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
So it just makes life all have a lot simpler
when you're trying to get the canopy. Establishers like you
elude to.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Mate and then you know, grolers can focus on the
other things that are important.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Now, when you look at the season on a hole
down here in the south has been cool and crisp
recently up there in central Otago, how are they faring?
Is it no different to any other season?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Would you say, oh, no, pretty standing may look i've
had a bit of snow and that recently up in
central but I'd like I think everyone's pretty happy. I
had the pleasure of coming up to where last week
and you know, still seeing cows standing on top of
the soil mate, so you know, these are good things
to see for our farmers.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Absolutely, Now, Alex, if people wanted to learn more about
Convizo or KWS as such, where do they go? How
do they learn more? Hey?
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Look, I'd be talking to your local gronomus first and foremost,
and you can ask them about the system and everything else.
And if not, you can jump onto kW us dot
com and get hold of all the myself locally down
south on the Tago or Simon up in Canterbury.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Hey, good only Alex, thanks your time this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Hey, thanks and.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Alex Clark of KWS talking about the Conviso Smart system.
Morgan Mitchell was up next for Eastern Northern Barbarians to
talk about an epic game of rugby that occurred over
the weekend. Welcome Back to the Muster. A pretty yep
(33:40):
a game of football unfolded over the weekend, with the
Eastern Northern Barbarians beating playates Oul Boys forty to twenty
eight in one hundred men hundred minute extravaganza of rugby union.
Morgan Mitchell keptain of the Bar Bars joint us in
studio this afternoon. Morgan, good afternoon. Firstly, a mess of congratulations.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Hey, no, I thank you very much for that. He
was pretty special to get that ticked off. Yeah, let
the celebration continue and yeah, and that's been a hell
of abroad in the last couple of days. So that's
what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Now, speaking to you on Saturday evening briefly, and your
regular wouldn't have been till yesterday when you guys gathered
and that's when it really started to kick in the
achievement of what had occurred.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Yeah, sort of felt like that last time when we
first won. You know, yeah, that Saturday night's just a
Saturday night, you know, Yeah, we've got the shield, but
yeah that's Sunday when you're getting on the shed all
together as a team. When that shield come through that
first study, that really sink it on. You know, we
(34:48):
are the Gearbotion winners, you know what I mean. So yeah,
so that's when I think, well, that's when it kicked
in for me, but I think it would have kept
down a few people as well.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
So yeah, now you have won two get O Shields, now,
is it right?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
How is that compared to the first time back in
twenty sixteen? Of course yourself, Brenton Howd and Lockey McCall
survivors from ten years ago.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Yeah. But the funny one is, see the first one
was just good to get the monkey off the back,
and then it's secret one.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
We had to go one hundred minutes to get that
game to win that one. So I remember that first one.
We were down seventeen in the first twenty minutes and
yeah we Yeah, me and the boys learned from that.
And I said to the boys in this second one,
you know it just controlled your emotions, control your game,
control everything, and we've got it. And I think we
(35:42):
did that well.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, so it was a case on Saturday of keeping
emotions in cheap because a lot of the younger players.
Let's be honest, you're at the Big Dance.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Yeah, it's probably wrong with me saying it. You's just
got to play. It's another game, because that's how you
play the game.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (36:00):
Yeah, it's the final you just keep getting Becky heap,
but you know you don't have to be a hero
to be in the final. It takes twenty three players
to win the finals, so and we did that.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, So what was different than the build up because,
like you say, you trade it like another game, but
ultimately there's a lot at stake as well.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Oh yeah there was. There was a lot going on.
There was, yeah, a few miskicks and two penalties going
against us and whatnot. So you know, the build up
was good. Everything was the same. So that's just finals,
you know, finals, fuddy, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
How would that rank for you? You've won the Renfrelly
Shield before more, You're not a lot of people can
say the round, the Renfrely Shield and the Gale Brave Shield.
What's the difference for you? I mean different goals in
mind with winning each trophy, but what's stood up for
you can when you compere the two.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
No, I wouldn't say there's not a lot of difference
because a shield means, you know, the Gebo Shield, it's
awesome to the self, awesome for a week community it's
a northern community and then read and fully shield it
was awesome for South and for the province. You know,
I never really got to experience a reading fully shield
experience until we got it, and that was different, whereas
(37:14):
a Gabo shield, I've experienced it, so I knew what
was coming. So both very special shields in yea. It's
good way to wrap it off a lot that.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, Now from your perspective, that's it. The playing days
are over and done with. The boots are in.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
The bin, absolutely bagged. I had probably a whole role
of strapping tape to hold them.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Uth.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So you threw them in the bin after the game.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
Yeah, now after you of the boys keep them? I said, no,
look at them.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Somebody would check them on trade me you make a
bit of money.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
They were no good, they were bagged. So yeah, the
bin was the best post for them.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
And from your angle again, do you look back at
you're playing rare with no regrets?
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Ah, yeah, I guess you can say that. Yeah, nothing
really comes to my mind. I wish i'd done that
and done that.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
No, I think.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
I had no regrets. Yeah, you're go, Yeah, I'm happy
with everything. How it's all folded out.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, And you look at the club competition and general
likes of Premier Yere Rugby. The Barbers stood out this year.
You guys only dropped the one game before the semi final.
There seems to be a competition though, and yes there's
not a lot of teams involved. We've talked about this before, mate,
but regarding the finals format, it certainly just brought it
to brings everything to the four and everybody just focuses
(38:38):
on what that shield means.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Yes, hope. See, well, in that round robin, we're struggling
for numbers. That first round we couldn't. We only hit
one prop preserved, you know what I mean. There's just
limited players around and limited numbers. And when we got
around to that second second round, Evyon was back and
that's when we're starting to pull the strengthen, you know,
(39:00):
making the results. And yeah, we did lose to Woodlands,
and credit to them. I think we got a lot
of learnings out of that game. That's probably what set
us up to the final and everything. So yeah, I
guess every games plays a part to the final. You know,
we're down twenty twenty odd points at Maris and we
(39:24):
still come back and won that. So I think that
built the team character and that we could believe in it.
So look, yeah, we got it done in a one
hundredth minutes. So yeah, all those week games that we
played throughout the season did help past to get on
that final. I think we'll.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Talk about Pirates old Boys, your opposition on Saturday. They've
been to the Big Dance three times in a row.
Now they beat you guys three years ago. Aigably one
of the best club players in Southern club rugby, Greg Dyer.
He just he knows how to roll the game.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
Yes, he's very talent to play great boat, great rugby.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Mind.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
You know you look at Pob and I've been in
the final so many times. Yeah, credit to him to
drive that team around everywhere. Yeah, it's great special power.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Now, as far as the celebrations from your perspective, who's
been based on park for that? Who's really still out
over the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
A lot to say it was me, but ah, I'll
probably have to say Jacob Cochlan. He's just keeps taking away.
He's got the shield with him. He's been evil to say.
I'll give it to him.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
You've got free milkshake just for carting around town last night.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
But the sie of that, I'm almost out that one.
But hopefully we get a three three three beers oft
them today.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
So yeah, so for you now you're working for rural Livestock,
you're a stock agent. How's that going? You'll be enjoying it.
I'd say it's life after rugby for you.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
Yeah, absolutely, love and A. It's just it's like a game.
You know, you're trying to beat the other agents to
make a deal. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, the farmers
are awesome. Yeah, it's what actually gets me out of beat.
Now I've got a new patient for stock agents. So yeah,
(41:20):
loving a. Yeah, that's probably what I sort of called
quits on. I've been focused on work and family and
that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
So likes of next year pre season. AJ calls up, mate,
we need someone who in a front ralph for a game.
That's it, no chance.
Speaker 7 (41:36):
I've told him plenty of times. You've got plenty of
time to go find plenty of props, so so he
knows we're also. Yeah, we'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Absolutely hate good on your mortgie top. Thanks for taking
time out of your busy schedule today. We know you've
got things to go and do with the team to
celebrate moments like this because I don't come around all
that often. Thanks once again for coming into the muster,
having a yarn into the barbars. Congratulations, and you've brought
the shield back down to the country. Good on you.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Yeah, he thank you very much having me on and
I really do appreciate all the support you guys have
and it's been special coupley days and we'll see what
the next couple of days too, So thank you very
much for him.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
Me laugh out loud with ag proud because life on
the land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us
by sheer Well data working to help the livestock farmer.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
My dad was a conjoined twin. We used to call
this twin my uncle on my father's side, and then
they were surgically separated. He became my uncle once removed. Right,
we're out of here. We're over and done with for
the afternoon. Hopefully the voice is back to normal tomorrow.
I'm Andy muer This has been the muster on Hot Cano.
(42:52):
We of course thanks to Peterson. The lex and podcast
is up shortly on my heart Radio Joy the afternoon
see tomorrow. Oh yeah,
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