August 12, 2026 • 47 mins
Andy Muir talks to Don Morrison, Chris Dillon, Dave Stevens, Trev Stark, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakanui Andy
muer here until two o'clock. The show is brought to
you by Peter's Genetics. On a gorgeous afternoon here in Gtown.
I'm currently sitting on fourteen degrees blue sky on the horizon,
and dare I say it a spring feeling in the
year before this afternoon. Anyway, we'll look at the weather
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very shortly. Just a further reminder if you're coming into town,
be aware that the bypass isn't open this week, so
all the tracks and heavy vehicles have coming through the
main street, so just be aware of it as well.
An interesting figure on the one o'clock news eleven percent
of transport funding being allocated to the South Island. Perhaps
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who allocates that funding needs to go and have a
drive up Eden Dale, Hilbert. Anyway, let's carry on the
theme for the music today is Texas, which is the
name of this very bad.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin Farm teff from and
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Speaker 2 (01:05):
This afternoon showers later on with car'p variable wins and
a higher fifteen Friday sunshineer like norther east three and fourteen.
Saturday a bit caller showers like sour westerlies minus one
and seven. Sunday morning showers of westies two and nine
and our Monday afternoon showers a breezy or westerlies four
and nine. So temperatures to hand Clinton seven point two,
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Harriet six point one, Northern South and five point eight
Riverton's seven point four, Dio tr now Titaroa six point
nine went in six point four in Woodland's six point five.
They're not too bad and the scheme of things, we'll
take that right. Don Morrison starts to office afternoon. Willebank
farmer looking at the top party. When my had Ellie
on about a month ago in his political leanings, he
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was up front about it being a bit more centrist
in us thinking. And he's looking at the top party
in why yeah, it's something hearing in the media about
and why he thinks well from his opinion in anyway,
that it's something that is interesting in the political landscape.
Chrystallin as President of South Confederated Farmers Local Council reform
has been all the buzz over the past few weeks
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for the right and wrong reasons, and Chris WA's have
a bit of a deep today. He's a bit frustrated
regarding the process regarding some councils. Dave Stevens is in
the beef and lambslot. This will be a really cool chat.
I mean it sounds boring, but it's not. It's all
about allocation of feed towards lambing time and just stopping
rate and paddics. All about the big question for a
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lot of people, what are you doing with your triplets
at the moment. Well, Dave's got a theory around this
which you might not have contemplated. It was pretty interesting
to say the least. Trev Stark's on board as well
from the Southern into a charity dog trail happening out
there at the Southern Field Day's site nearby Movie Cranking
into Gear tomorrow, so we catch up with Trev defending
he's defending his title there of course as well, but
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he's involved skin on the game as to getting the
event up and running a residents sporting during Nathan Burdon's
South on Stags and injuries. They seem to go hand
in hand and this year is no different. Unfortunately. Dave
Morrison a PGG writes and gives a rundown stock prices
from Charlton, then will crank into it shortly with Don Morrison.
This is the Muster was brought to you by Peter's
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Speaker 2 (03:28):
Great Don Morrison farms at Willow Bank and joins us
this afternoon. Howe, good afternoon. You requested this song owed
to Billy Joe by Shneida Connor or her version I'm
Done originally by Bunny Bobby Gentry, I got andy.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Yeah. Look, it's just a great version of what's a
classic song, The Bobby Gentry one from part he might
have been back like sixties early seventies was one of
those really good songs when you think you never hear
a cover of better. Gee, that's that's a good beat
on that one. So thought your listeners might enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
How's everything out on the rod? Shittyway?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Is?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
What are we? The middle of August? We're seeing longer
days now we can hear the bird life relatively early
before dawn this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It was quite pleasant you certainly the last three or
four days have been a shift, Andy. We've enjoyed some
really nice warm days here and some good drying days.
So it's sort of that time of the year that
August can be a big definer on how well you're
set up come the spring, and we probably need it.
We've used it just the budget. The budget's working, but
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if we can get a bit of growth, then I'm
comfortable when it comes to spreading out and you're not
trying to sneak those extra days, and very conscious with
that feed budget and daily allocation. You know, from here
on we need, we need, and we want to be
lifting them all. So, yeah, it's been a good couple
of days.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No early lambs yet.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah, we've got a few, not enough to say they're planned.
So I always say, if you get locks, you put
them in the fre I've had a conso they planned
and if you're only getting a few, you've got to
hide them up the back. So yeah, no, we got
a few early ones.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Andy, Oh, you just don't it. It's a couple that
popped out because he's a rig running around or whatever.
It is a case of it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah, poor fence, poor fence somewhere on the farm, but no, Look,
they're actually due to start in about another within the
next week, the early ones is due to start. So
there was a couple this morning which just I think
you're probably planned, and so they're all getting spread out
today and they'll start leving another week.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Quite a lot happening in the political landscape at the moment.
How we will comment on this now Christopher Luxon remains
in charge of the country, prime Minister and leader of
the National Party. But you've got a bit more of
a centrist view on things. We spoke to you this
probably about a month ago, and there's amina recing scenarios
out there regarding coalitions and the like.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, look, I don't know, Andy. I think I'm probably
one of those people that's been frustrated by the divisive politics,
not only in New zeal but around the world between Trump,
between Farage, even some of our own political parties. It
seems to be playing a pretty divisive card which is
not really good for any of us. And a visit
policy too, which doesn't help. It doesn't help the economy
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at all. So, you know, I think I mentioned a
few interviews ago the Opportunity Party was someone that I
thought was going to play an interesting role and could
only see them, I mean, from growing and that was
when they're setting at about two percent. I see that
up to eight percent now. I think a lot of
people just want to see it grown up in the room.
And so you talk about what's happened with Luxeon and
(06:36):
National it's I guess the problem is if you can't
control your own party, how can you actually even control
your coalition partners? And that's I guess what would be
my criticism of this coalition government is that you know
too much policy from those the two let's say to
the right, the smaller parties, and yeah, interesting. So it
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will be certainly very interesting to see what happens from
the Opportunity Party here, because I think their core policy
around a land value tax, which is their core revenue
raiser for the business plan as such, will become under
a much bigger scrutiny. And it will actually depend if
that's something that they say, well, this is aspirational, it's negotiable,
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or this is something that's a bit of an ideology
and we're prepared to retune it or with it.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Now, the Opportunity Party, they've got three primary reforms. First,
one is what they're calling a citizens income. They're promoting
a citizen's income or universal basic income of up to
three hundred and seventy dollars a week a nineteen four
hundred dollars a year for every citizen and resident age
over eighteen. So effectively, they want to make us a
wealfare state. Are you talked about the land value tax?
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Calling for a one point seventy five percent annual tax
on the value of urban land and ero point five
percent on rural land, aims to quote redirect money from speculation.
Quote it says the policy is the breaking settings that
have driven house prizes to unconscious noble levels. They've said
that wrong, but you know what I mean. In other words,
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they're really high, and that land value tax alone would
pay for the citizens and citizens income with another four
billion dollars in revenue left over, the party claims, and
it's policy review and they want to do a few
changes around compulsory KIWI savers. So yeah, they just want
to tax their way into prosperity, which is never a
good thing.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Well, I think their ideological in their policy, and I
think a certain amount of naivety go going with that.
Andy and to two aspects for a universal tax. There's
some people in New Zealand that don't need help from
the government, and there's some people that clearly do. So
I don't see any point directing resources to a sector
that doesn't need help. So that's the first thing. And
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the second thing with their land value tax, it ignores
every other asset class of wealth in New Zealand, which
seems absolutely crazy and a bit biased. And yeah, so
it's interesting. And also in that they exclude municipal land,
eerie land, and crown land, so you know you're going
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to have twenty five thousand bona fide farmers in New
Zealand would actually be paying a fair bit of that tax.
That's just not a fair fix. I think it's about
four billion of the twenty eight billion they raised, will
estimate that it would come from the farming sector. So
I've got to take my hat after them though. I've
spoken to qua One and Daniel lev and they've been
very receptive to have that conversation. So it's really going
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to be where they view that, where they view that
land value tax. From here on, I think we'll influence
some of their support.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
People get sick of tax so Howie that's the issue.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Well, tax is just you know, we don't like the
word tax, Andy, but we use resources in that country,
we use infrastructure, and someone's going to pay for it.
So whatever you want to call it, there's actually a
requirement for everyone to contribute for the services that they receive.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Now, is that a there resting? They're talking in these
polls about TP the Top Party being up there national
and he's yell and first act. The current coalition is
one option. We know that, but the other will be
a four headed beast of Labor, Greens, To Party, Maury
and Top. But this is all based as well on
this polling of TO Party Maury retaining all their seats.
(10:19):
This is something that's been lost in translation along the way.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah, well to Party Maray has certainly done their own
amount of self destruction and I think Labor has been
building certainly momentum on some of those seats. So will
be interesting what to Party Mariy can hold. And you're
probably surmising their Andy when you say it's that four
parties on the left, because while Luxon has said he
won't work with Opportunities Party, I think it's a very
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premature call. To make and certainly as the Opportunities Party
gains momentum, they certainly may gain more credibility. And I've
got to say to me, they're the only ones at
the moment that are acting like the adult in the
room with their discussion. Everything else is very petty, divisive,
And I get it for trouble these labor and National
for their supporters. You know, they're the ones that are
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going to be sneaking over to the to the middle
ground of the Opportunity parties where the extreme left and right.
Then they can keep up their own rhetoric because they've
got their basic atal ten support and that's all they
want to hold on to.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Is there a good chance, though, this is just going
to get lost in election fatigue. We've still got three
months to go.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Well, I think the question is andy the economy. So
when you've got a lot of people under pressure and
our economy isn't doing great, unemployment isn't great, that becomes
that very much becomes the focus of your election dialogue.
And I can't see that I'm improving at the moment.
And you know, look, I'm not specifically blaming any party.
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We've a national borrowed heavily, and the GFC labor borrowed
heavily in COVID where where we are, and we just need,
I guess a business a business plan that's going to
get us out of it. And that's what we perhaps
haven't seen excrative from this coalition, the latest coalition party.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Just to wrap up, how are you your blecks? They
got the work, They got the job done over the
Sharks yesterday and the wet used they got fifty points
or so, but they had the Sharks to zero, which
was a pleasing factor. I really enjoying watching Ruben Love
grow as a footy player.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, a lot of confidence, a lot of right decisions.
You know, you look at your you look at your Malonga's,
you look at your Dan Carter's, you look at Ruben Love.
They make it look as though they've got more time.
They don't have any more time than anyone else with
the ball, but they've just got that vision and you know,
it makes it look as they've got time. And with
that they can create space, they can create options and
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I love we got a number ten that runs at
the line ended.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Don Morrison always good to catch up, enjoy the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yep, cheers Andy, catch you lad up.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Don Morrison there at Willow Bank. The song is what
is it? Ode to Billy Joe, Ode to Donald Morrison?
The helly how still N's up? Next from South Confederative Farmers,
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Welcome back to the Muster, Texas there with I don't
want a lover, I just need a friend. Well, a
lot of people wanting friends at the moment. When it
comes to local body politics, of course, local government reform
is the topic that has been hot for the past
couple of weeks. There's all these councils around the country
try to get everything dotted and crossed in the line
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so they can make a bit of sense on these
local body reforms that have basically been forced upon them
over the past couple of months. It's Christillan as president
of South Confederative Farmers and joins us once again to
talk about this and other matters. Good afternoon, Chris. Local
government reform. How have you found the process? I'd say frustrating.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Ah, y, it's been a little bit frustrating processes. Obviously,
there's a Local Government Commission that they're still going around
right through this week and into next week consulting with
communities but yeah, the head art process has been very frustrating.
There's been a lot of councilors that have engaged in
it and listened, and there's a lot that have really
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really shown their shown their hand on what they think
to community representation.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
This just comes across as egos at play.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Is that what you're insinuating, Well, it might have been
the government given them a chance for some of them
to do that. That's there's some people that have been
very engaged in the process and some that have not
have had real disregard for it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So Federated Farmers, though, have you been kept in the
up to date as to what's going on through the
local councils.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
We've been kept up with it through our own processes
right as you're where. We sailed a couple of public
meetings mid to the end of July there not to
tell anyone how to do it, but as informative to
the options, and we brought out some options in that's
when things like local boards and catch and boards were mooted.
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The disappointment in some of that is the lack of engagement,
especially within the city, of any of that process. The
meeting we happened in Cargo, No city councilors bother to
turn up to it.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Was it organized with the council.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Yeah, it was organized with the council. It was organized
to be in Cargo so they could be there. It
was organized around so it wasn't going to class with
other events. And yeah, i'd suggest there was four in
the room from Cargo and a couple of them with.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
A reporters, Tom Campbell and Grant Dermody. They've been pretty
vocal around all this amalgamation with the one Selfland model.
What happened. They're just miscommunication perhaps.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Either miscommunication or that they're just going to think they
can do it their way anyway. But it just highlights
the fact that if you don't want if you want one,
that's fine, but that's how you're going to get treated
by the city.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So that's just straight away just looking between the lines.
You guys are frustrated, but there's going to be fractions
before we start.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
And looks a bit that way. They've had plenty of
chance to chance to engage. Yes, they have engaged with
environments south and but yeah, that that engagement process, I
think you had the joy of sitting through it as well. Uh,
that was like sending an arsiness to to help we're
to put.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Out fire, so one might have putting on a suppose CD. Hey,
look as far as environments south and then this whole process,
they've got their point of view around it. The dialogue
you've had recently, what's there being with.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
The environments out and sorry, yes, yeah, I know. We've
always kept in good dialogue with with environments, of which
usually with good dialogue is probably not the word, but
always very engaged with environments often. Yeah, they tend to
test us every now and then.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
They so robust dialogu would be a better understanding.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Then that would be the word here.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, okay, what about all the council South and District Council,
Gord District Council and Vicago City Council environments Southland. Surely
you guys have been kept in the loop because that's
a concern for a lot of people. With the one
Southland model is engaging rural and sticking it in within.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
The cargo exactly, and it improves with the Gord District
Council engage well with the survey and it showed survey
the dirics in that one to go. Unfortunately, for some
reason they voted on it and that was fine, and
then they put another proposal through which basically made how
they voted at point. And I just can't understand that
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people and the council. You've got to realize you're representing
your your rate pace, You're not representing yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Would you say these samples create a good sample size,
so considering a feedback they get from them is pretty limited.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Yet from for yanitary models, for all the studies we did,
totally it feeds that fits the mold. Good to have too,
and maybe in time take that two into one. But
when Auckland went to super City it was a disaster.
If the head of stage that they would have got
a lot better.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
It was interesting when a few councils up north were
pretty open and vocals saying we're not doing anything. We'll
wait for the government to come back to us and
give us us some directions. What do you make of that?
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Yeah, there was a lot of a lot of that.
There was a lot of the ones that did have
a direction kind of left a few poor custins out
beside them. So it didn't actually work that well. So
it needed it needed a really big look into it
and that's lucky enough in South and here we've got
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this local government commission process already that's been going on
for a long time, and let's.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Just hope that someone that can get finished and some
of those recommendations can go through before they said that
process gets fully decided.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Let's be honest about this whole situation. Are we pissing
into the whims trying to get everybody on the same
page to get an outcome?
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Ah? Yeah, that would be applied by of putting it
probably if it does go to a referendum voter, it's
never going to get voted on anyway. It was proved
last time they tried to amalgamate, so it could be
one of the reasons are going about it the way
they are.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
One other thing as well. A big topic this week
was the National Party now Federated Farmers. You are apolitical,
but at the same time, with the rural lens a
supposed ability and the governments what it is, what is
required given they've been pretty farmer friendly.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
A political is probably where it says we're not involved
in that political stuff. We follow it closely, but yes
we don't favor anyone.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You follow it closely. That's called covering your basis. I suppose,
I mean, yeah, you got to I mean blocks of peede.
Do you get him actually, Peter McDonald, labor candidate for Southland.
Do you talk to Peter match?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I haven't spoken to Peter for a month or so,
but they'll run into him at the other event. Yeah
you can as you have a good chat about things.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, it's a good rapport going on between yourself and him.
I say we did have a change of government, A yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
We would probably be having quite a few discussions if
we were too. But yeah, I do think what's happened
with the National Party, it's been a storm in a
teacup whole. What happened in the last two days. And
it was proved yesterday that that was the case.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Crystal, And thanks to your time as always, Thank you Andy,
Crystal and a Federated Farmers not sugar Cody get there.
Let's how you'd expect it was c D. Dave Stevens
is up next to the Beef and Lamb slot talking
feeding multiple use.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
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Speaker 2 (21:00):
Evens joins this afternoon in the Beef and Lamb slot,
talking about lamb survival is the big issue. Lambing isn't
too far away for a few people, the first of
the early lambs almost hitting the ground now, actually where
is the time gone? He's based on a research and
I'm going to give some figures and some tips today
around past, your management and the lead up to September. Dave,
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welcome to the muster.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
You thinks Andy much appreciated, great dev beyond the radio
and have a chat about this.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, it's a massive topic for a lot of people.
You're trying to work to your past, your management, into
your into your farm rotation, the big a couple of
big things to consider around this straight off the cuff
as well. You know what, what's your ground conditions like?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (21:43):
Yeah, indeed, indeed, previous history tells us that if you
make sure that you do get your drainage righte and
keep their ground as dry as possible at Lemming, you're
going to improve your lamb survival quite significantly. That's that's
just just the start of the process.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Would you say over all the farmers are pretty good
at passion management and the lead up to Lemon.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Overall, I suppose there's a couple of there's a couple
of features in there. One is how much feed you've got,
and then the other one is how you allocate that feed,
and and I think we're getting a head around how
much we've got in front of us. But I still
think a lot of our farmers are set stocking too early.
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They're sort of letting go of their control of that
intake a week bit too early. If you are stocking,
set stocking recently, early in the grass disappears very fast.
It's a very rapid indicator that you possibly weren't feeding
them quite enough up until that point. So just just
keep that in mind when you when you are thinking
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about what you're going to do next.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So how early are people set stocking then if you
think they need to hold off a bit.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Well, quite often they may be set stocking nearly a
month out from lambing. But I would say I'll be
keeping my control, especially if you know the conditions in
the spring, conditions are not going the way you'd like.
I mean, temperatures are fifteen degrees is great on a
daylight today, but if it's not the I would be
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controlling their intakes up till maybe the last week before lamming,
because what we find here Andy is that it's actually
most of our losses come from what you did to
the you up until that point, rather than the lamb
dying on the day. If it dies on the day,
that's just a week but unfortunate. But it's how we
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look at after the youth. It's the really important factor.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
As far as singles, people tiding them right up and
the lead up to lemming. Is that the right philosophy
to have in the scheme of things.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
With singles, they become a little bit of your relief valve.
So if you need, for example, you need a bit
more feed for the triplets, then that's an opportunity certainly.
But I would say that once they go to lambing,
especially if you've got a fair few triplets, I would
mix my singles and my triplets together at lambing, which
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is again why you'd say let's not let's keep control
of their intakes up until that point, and then what
you're doing is you're set stocking at the number of
lambs to be born per hectare, not number of us
per hectare. And if you mix the singles and the
triplets together there's more space for the triplets, and the
singles will grow flat out under those circumstances and you'll
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be able to sell them early. So it's a win
win situation. They're all around.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Is there a chance allocating too much feed to these
singles though, that there could be birth problems for hands
like big heads?
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Not in that instance. No, No, that's sort of the
differentiation between head and body weight is probably more likely
to be underfeeding early on. So at that point in time,
I mean, we've we've fed singles ad lib, giving them
as much feed as triplets, and all we get is
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a really good lambs at weaning time.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So for people that are holding their singles back, leaving
them on the swedes or the beat till the very
last moment, you think they can perhaps think again. And
the other two parts of this question I suppose, and
the rise of triplets too. It's it's another area that
needs addressed as far as feed allocation.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Yeah, it's and it's not just feed allocation there, and
it's actually the protein concentration. So so if you've got
a really good swede crop with big bulbs, there's not
very much protein in that in those in that feed
and protein is really important in that last month. So
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so yes, we understand that sometimes the singles need to
stay on the swedes a week bit longer. But what
I would do in that sort of really late pregnancy
time is not certainly don't put any pressure on them
to clean up the bulb. Make sure that they're still
getting plenty of top as they go across there, and
don't worry too much about the bulb that's left behind.
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And now where you'll start to balance the diet out
a wee bit better and make it more appropriate for
a heavily pregnant year.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
What would you say about the correlation between too much
feed and bearing issues?
Speaker 8 (26:24):
Bearings, We love the bearing issue, one of we were
talking about this this morning actually amongst their colleagues, and
we've done a lot of work in this space over time,
and probably the key would be no sudden changes. So
if you suddenly change from one feed to another, or
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from low quality feed to high quality feed, there is
a tendency to have some serious issues. So the first
first port of call no sudden changes. So if they
were on a reader reasonably moderate allowance, don't allow them
to gorge themselves. That's not a good. Look, the rest
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of that question goes, when we do provide them with
high allowances, then we have no more bearing issues than
when they're on low allowances. Right, So it's not the
allowance per se, it's the sudden change from one condition
to another that appears to be associated with it. Having
said all that, Andy, we really don't know what causes
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bearings as yet.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And the rest thing you talk about the feed needs
of twins in the life, do you think transitioning off swedes?
You hear about it in kettle all the time. Should
it be applied to shape, for example, a bit better
than how we do it?
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Quite often all we do is dump them on pasture.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Right.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
If you're going to do that, I would say you
put them onto a moderate quality Pastu're not a really
high quality pasture for a start, and it would be
nice to be able to transition them. They transition over
about the course of five days, so transitioning back to
pasture is less traumatic than going from pasture to crop.
(28:13):
And the problem is even a four or five day
period in this really late pregnancy where there are their
intakers restricted, may well impact on lamb survival. So some
sort of trying to transition them back would be a
good idea if it's practical for far.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I suppose the last question of God as well as
regarding stocking rates, you talked about it briefly before. Do
we need to look at stocking rates on farm during
lambing time.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
Over lambing time again? I would think about it as
lambs being born perhected, not about use PERJECTAA And a
lot of farmers will make that stocking rate core based
on how much grass they have and how far they
can spread the user. They will try to get the
stocking rate as low as possible to avoid some of
(29:03):
those complications. But we certainly now have the experience and
all the experiences that we have had reflected to us
from farmers is actually lambing triplets on their own, regardless
of stocking rate is hard work, I'd have to say,
which is why we're coming back going we'll mix them
(29:25):
with the singles and dilute that effect quite significantly.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
So overall, and it depends on the scenario. If farmers
are going through and doing a lambing beat, et cetera
and shedding out, then they'll be able to run slightly
high stocking rates than somebody who's just said stop, because
they'll be able to identify the using lambs move the
US that haven't lambed on. If you're in hill country
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where you can't do that, then you're very much trying
to stock according to how much feed is growing under
their feet.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It's a fascinating it's a fascinating subject this day, but
I could talk about it for a lot longer, but
time is of the years since. But nonetheless very interesting,
especially around the triplets and the singles. Thanks to your
time on the muster. Certainly a conversation starter.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
All good. Hopefully there's some good results out there this year.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Dave Stevens the have some very interesting thoughts regarding triplets
and singles. Beeflamen z dot com slash events to receive
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Triff Stark's up next, talking Southern indoor charity dog trials.
Speaker 9 (30:39):
She's from Texas, Second Tail Bar away.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
He's just stabbing rather room and judging by the smile tree.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Welcome back to the muster. Away out to the Southern
field days side a way Moomo. Now to catch up
with tref Stark. He's involved with the Southern Indoor Charity
Dog Trial which is underway tomorrow. Trev. Welcome to the muster.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Thanks Andy, No good to be along.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Right, So, what is it the eleventh edition of the
Southern Indo a Charity Dog Trail tomorrow? Is it correct?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
That's correct. This is the eleventh year. So you know
we've been started off I think for rescue Helicopter in
the first years and or first one or two years
and then it's been all going to Hospice since and
we're very proud to support hospice.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
How much have you raised over those years? Was a
figure I read like one hundred and forty thousand dollars
or something.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, I think that'd be correct.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
That's pretty good going for an organization that you guys
are out there.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Well, the beauty about it is we can there's not
many dog trials at this time of the year and
guys can come out run their dogs, have a bit
of fun, but of socializing and know all the whole
way we're raising money for hospice.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
So how many competitors turn up from up north?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
None from the North Island, but we do go as
far as Blenham, so there's Blenhim and quite a few
out of Canterbridge.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
So it's fair to say it's got a good word
out there and people have you to travel for these events.
All you guys that do that, your sales are is
going up country.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, that's that's probably one of the bonuses of the
things that's traveling. It's all we've got to get. It
goes together and away you go.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
So how much organization goes into an event like this?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Oh look, let's take a bottom. There's there's a committee
of sixteen and they're an awesome committee. Everyone for the
pools that wait, everyone has jobs to do. It probably
starts a month ago that we put in call for
entries for it, and then the secretary puts Jude puts
all the plates, all the entries and we do a
(32:44):
draw the week leading up to it. All this week
leading up to that we've trained the sheep and sheetting
basically setting up. So yeah, and there's a good crew
here to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
How many shape are involved?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
About five hundred?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Jeez, that's a few. They just source.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Likely I suppose there are source from Mark Taylor next
door to us or next door to the field days
the still lands that he's raising on the ground, so
this year was sport. In the past we've had to
truck them on, which is a little bit more awkward,
but I haven't made it's all. It's just great to
(33:23):
have everything here.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
So over the next three days Friday, Sateurer, on Sunday
Sunday trev what can people expect?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Public are more than welcome to come out and see
some good dogs working. We start at seven and probably
go to of US five six each day finals on Sunday,
which we're hoping to be about sometime I Rember eleven
o'clock orfrectionally after so the top five from the first
(33:52):
two days because of sixty five odd runs a Thursday
and the top two from the Sunday have a run off.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Again.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Is all just hitting dogs, Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
It's just hitting dogs?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Ye Are you doing the backup this year?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
No, we're not, but we do. We do run a training.
We've got two guys coming down from christ Church, Andy
mcmah Andy Clark and Ian Stevenson who are going to
be coaching kids on how to train dogs or any
young It's not for you, but any young people that
are interested in learning how to train dogs to help them.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
So I've seen that on your social channels. You're looking
at working with Tailford and likes getting young students to
come along for taps. There has it been good buying
from that from areas likes Telford.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, there has been some buying and growing Future Farmers
is another one that's been very good buying from. So yeah,
and we encourage like if they go and have a
go at this and watch this year. If they're not,
if they think they're not up to what encourage them?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
How would you describe the dog for dog trialing fraternity
on a whole at the moment tree is it in
a pretty good spot?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I think so. It's probably the age beverage age is
climbing up, but there's still there's still a good bunch
of young people coming into it.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So the passion remains for the industry. That that's the
undying thing around this. I suppose I reckon.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The passion's definitely there.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
Yeah, now you're.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Think, sorry, mate, you're defending champions from last year as well.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
No pressure, there's no precis who told you there?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It's on social channels. Everyone can see.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It right right.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Just regarding the competition for the public, if they want
to turn up as a gold cone, gold cone gold
coin donation or anything you'd appreciate or what's the.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Go Look, we would appreciate it because anything goes to hospice.
But there is no entry fee. We don't charge anything
for anyone wanted to come in and watch your So yeah,
we encourage the public to come and if they want
to make a donation, that is entirely up to them.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
It's all getting underway. Tomorrow's seven aear out at the
Southern Field day side at way Moo Move the Southern
Indoor Charity Dog Trial trip start. Thanks for your time
on the muster and good luck defending your title.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Can I just say one more thing, Andy, Yes, just
want to thank the sponsors. We've got an awesome bunch
of sponsors and I think they need to be acknowledged.
And if people come along and see see who all
has sponsored this, please support them as they can. That's
what it's all about. So yeah, don't go a long
(36:44):
way to what we're giving to hospice. All proceeds go
to Hospice, but that sponsorship certainly goes a long way.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Go work tray of all the best for the next
three days.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Thanks any Steven rather.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Tris Stark based out of the Southern Indoor Charity Dog
Trialing and defeating champion of the event getting under way
tomorrow at seven am. Gold Cone doing that gold coin
donation going towards Southern Hospice as well. So if you're
not up to much this week in the weather looks okay,
head out to my moomy we go and watch some
quality dog trialing. Well recommended. Nathan Brandon's up next to
wrap up Jacobaaself.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
It's choosing Texas.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I can conce warm you deal same Welcome back to
the muster. The theme today is Texas for no reason whatsoever?
Part of some good Junes. That song there called say
what you Want? Is it spoiling? Gary? Nathan Burden, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah? Pretty good? How are you where it is that
you won't need to bring your boots to Stags training tonight?
They're suffering?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Well, yeah, so you've been getting pretty desperate if if
we got to that situation, But you know that's been
the Stags are going through some challenges at the moment.
It hasn't been a bit of an emotional sort of
a hangover this week. I think after the weekend obviously,
you know, we celebrated five years of your good self
on the Muster on Friday night, and there were the highs,
(38:09):
and then things got even higher on Sunday afternoon into
the late evening with the Sharks at the NBL Grand Final,
and then and then things ended a little bit of
a disappointing note. So a bit of a bit of
an emotional rollercoaster over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Just how bad is the injury situation with the Stags.
It sounds like Jack Taylor may be gone for the season.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Doesn't sound promising, does it. And if you was a
player that you didn't want to lose, it was definitely
Jack Taylor. I mean, I think we were initially not concerned,
I guess, but we were initially sort of wondering whether
Jack might have been on his way over to South
Africa for the Greatest Rivalry Tour and the you know,
(38:49):
the All Blacks loss was our game, super rugby quality
player already having a big season, and I guess we
saw it first half the Stags against Mano or two
that Mitch Dunche Jack Taylor combo was just exceptional. Line
out was absolutely firing in that game and I guess
Jack and that injury coming off in the second half
(39:12):
was I guess one of the reasons that the Stags
started to stumble and ultimately couldn't get across the line
up at.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Palmpson North, losing in the last minute like that, conceding
those three tries and doing a box cack with ninety
seconds to go. Whatever it was, Charlie mash a very
very good player. Somebody must have called for a bit
in hindsight, Gee, he's won his time again.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, I think, yeah, Charlie will undoubtedly learned from that.
But also, you know, there's also I guess there's a
bit of a cruel element to look at one particular
mark in the game. If the Stags had have won
that game, we wouldn't even be talking about that, about
that box kick. Then there were moments before and after that,
you know that contributed to that, and we could even wonder,
(39:54):
you know, were there not a couple of other TV
angles that we possibly could have looked at in terms
of that that last try. So I guess it just
when we're getting down to those fine margins. It's such
a such a key result. These are two teams who
are battling away at one end of the spectrum in
terms of this year is in PC, so it would
(40:15):
have been fantastic to get that one up there. I
think we talked about it as a must win game.
Really interesting to see one of my old coaches, David Henderson,
actually bring a bit of sensibility to the argument and say,
hang on, you know, let's treat this more around a
longer term project. We've got some really good young talent
(40:36):
coming through South and rugby at the moment, let's not
get too disparated around eighty minutes of rugby. This is
about ensuring that we can sort of put a team
together that over the next few years we can see
the likes of Jack Taylor, Jimmy Taylor sewn with he
see some of these guys that have been coming through
the academy and the pathways and actually give them an
opportunity to shine and this could be a Southern team that,
(40:58):
if they do it well, you know, in the next
two or three years, could do some special things.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I've seen that comment by Dave and it was it
was interesting and I suppose the other side of it,
as we're consistently being told this competition is a sprint
and you just got to hit the ground from the
get go. So those combinations need to be formed.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, it's the it's the tricky thing is and it's
professional sports. So the US and ours are what it's
about at the end of the day. But I guess
you know, you look at the South and Stags in
a different way than we do is to maybe a
Southern Steel or a Southern Sharks, where you know it's
all about winning that it's all about winning that title.
(41:38):
Is this team. This team's more about sort of we
want to win, but we also you know, we could
just draft in twenty three overseas guys and try and
win a title or something like that. But it's it's
about sort of giving as many of the local guys
a chance to shine as they can. And again, I'll
just I just got back. There are some real positive
signs and I think you know it some of the
stuff that Rugby South is done around the ahead of
(42:00):
me and keeping some of those players that up in
the need and keeping them in the fold. There are
some positive things in there, and you know we need
to look beyond sort of eighty minutes and parting North.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Why didn't the referee go upstairs in that last minute
or is it not available? Did they not have the
camera available?
Speaker 3 (42:19):
If not, that cemtu l better be my assumption that
I guess that's there's not as much money probably going
into the into the production. I could be right, could
be wrong, but my assumption would be there's not as
much money going into the production, not the same angles
that we see, thank goodness from international rugby, where we
(42:43):
can spend ten minutes sort of over analyzing every single
decision that gets made and the game gets killed off.
So I guess you know that we can Can we
have it both ways? Can we have it so that
every decision is one hundred percent correct? Or do we
want to actually just get on with the game.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Here's one, get rid of the team over those super
rugby level. Bang, it's gone. Let's just live with the decision.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, hard to argue with that one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
The Sharks South had Sharks Jonathan Jim on the show
on Monday. He was a fantastic chat as well. Not
long after the Sharks beat the Saints in the final
the NBL, you were there at the game. You've had
a bit of a skin in the game regarding this team.
Just describe what it means to this franchise.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I've just like I've loved the last season. The last
two years have been an amazing project. You know, the
Sharks as an organization took a real punt to bring
Jonathan Yim. No head coaching experience, but obviously massive work ethic,
(43:41):
some amazing connections and a huge basketball i Q brought
him out here and I think a huge leap of
faith for Jonathan and his wife too to come out
here all the way from San Francisco to the Cargo
and put this team together. And then when you look
(44:01):
at the players, I guess so they fell just short
in that Grand Final in twenty twenty five and all,
but you know Josiah Alac sort of coming back and
trying to get the job done in twenty twenty six,
and it was one of the special occasions to be
at Ilt Stadium south and a real privilege to be
there for that Grand Final. The irony of a Southland
(44:24):
chant sort of coming out late in the late stages
of that game, something you normally hear coming from the
Rugby Park terrace. You know, it was my hands were
shaking heading into the into the last sort of minutes
of that game and then it goes to overtime. It
was just it was a fantastic occasion, knowing what we
knew about the backstory, knowing that, you know, Jill Bolger,
(44:46):
who had been there for seventeen years, had helped establish
that team, and you know this was her last game
potentially in in that role. You just so barely wanted
the team to be able to do it for Jill
and all those people had been there throughout the seventeen
years of that franchise. So it was very, very cool.
Just a great way to finish the season.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Just quickly to wrap up Ethan de Greet's resigned through
to twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yeah, great, fantastic, isn't it. And just listening to some
of his comments around wants to be a one club,
only wants to play for South and only wants to
play for the Highlands. Loving his time with the All
Blacks forty three Tests and counting playing some of the
rugby of his life. He said, a fantastic Super Rugby
campaign and he's just boxed on under Dave Rennie. But
(45:33):
yeah he'll learn a lot during this tour, you know.
Loving his time coming up against some of these packs
in South Africa as well. So yeah, fantastic to help
him back on board.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Can on your notes. Enjoy the weekend, lovely thanks.
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Speaker 1 (46:27):
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PGG write and once again present stock selling action which
occurred at the Chaplain saleard this morning. Dave Morrison joins
us to give a rundown on prices. Good afternoon, Tiga,
what are the details.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Andy?
Speaker 10 (46:40):
You're up pretty quiet day today? That come a year?
Speaker 3 (46:44):
But to start the.
Speaker 10 (46:45):
Prime lams mister the crime names three hundred to three
thirty of the mcraham's course, many lams sort of two
fifties sixty, and the light of the primes around it's
sort of two ten to five. Like I said, small
yarding there today in the US, very quiet in the
new the new section today like you sold well, sort
(47:06):
of one thirty five to one sixty, and the bit
of the news from two hundred to twenty two thirty.
But like I said, small yarding there. Stall lambs probably
back away. That is now obviously with the umult of
the season. Yes, the stall lambs one sixty to two hundred,
many themes so one fifty one to fifty five.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
And the lighter store.
Speaker 10 (47:27):
Lambs which obviously we went last in the season. There
s one twenty one twenty five. Then that wraps it
up any
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakanui Andy
muer here until two o'clock. The show is brought to
you by Peter's Genetics. On a gorgeous afternoon here in Gtown.
I'm currently sitting on fourteen degrees blue sky on the horizon,
and dare I say it a spring feeling in the
year before this afternoon. Anyway, we'll look at the weather
(00:23):
very shortly. Just a further reminder if you're coming into town,
be aware that the bypass isn't open this week, so
all the tracks and heavy vehicles have coming through the
main street, so just be aware of it as well.
An interesting figure on the one o'clock news eleven percent
of transport funding being allocated to the South Island. Perhaps
(00:44):
who allocates that funding needs to go and have a
drive up Eden Dale, Hilbert. Anyway, let's carry on the
theme for the music today is Texas, which is the
name of this very bad.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin Farm teff from and
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Speaker 4 (01:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:05):
This afternoon showers later on with car'p variable wins and
a higher fifteen Friday sunshineer like norther east three and fourteen.
Saturday a bit caller showers like sour westerlies minus one
and seven. Sunday morning showers of westies two and nine
and our Monday afternoon showers a breezy or westerlies four
and nine. So temperatures to hand Clinton seven point two,
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Harriet six point one, Northern South and five point eight
Riverton's seven point four, Dio tr now Titaroa six point
nine went in six point four in Woodland's six point five.
They're not too bad and the scheme of things, we'll
take that right. Don Morrison starts to office afternoon. Willebank
farmer looking at the top party. When my had Ellie
on about a month ago in his political leanings, he
(01:50):
was up front about it being a bit more centrist
in us thinking. And he's looking at the top party
in why yeah, it's something hearing in the media about
and why he thinks well from his opinion in anyway,
that it's something that is interesting in the political landscape.
Chrystallin as President of South Confederated Farmers Local Council reform
has been all the buzz over the past few weeks
(02:12):
for the right and wrong reasons, and Chris WA's have
a bit of a deep today. He's a bit frustrated
regarding the process regarding some councils. Dave Stevens is in
the beef and lambslot. This will be a really cool chat.
I mean it sounds boring, but it's not. It's all
about allocation of feed towards lambing time and just stopping
rate and paddics. All about the big question for a
(02:35):
lot of people, what are you doing with your triplets
at the moment. Well, Dave's got a theory around this
which you might not have contemplated. It was pretty interesting
to say the least. Trev Stark's on board as well
from the Southern into a charity dog trail happening out
there at the Southern Field Day's site nearby Movie Cranking
into Gear tomorrow, so we catch up with Trev defending
he's defending his title there of course as well, but
(02:56):
he's involved skin on the game as to getting the
event up and running a residents sporting during Nathan Burdon's
South on Stags and injuries. They seem to go hand
in hand and this year is no different. Unfortunately. Dave
Morrison a PGG writes and gives a rundown stock prices
from Charlton, then will crank into it shortly with Don Morrison.
This is the Muster was brought to you by Peter's
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Speaker 2 (03:28):
Great Don Morrison farms at Willow Bank and joins us
this afternoon. Howe, good afternoon. You requested this song owed
to Billy Joe by Shneida Connor or her version I'm
Done originally by Bunny Bobby Gentry, I got andy.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Yeah. Look, it's just a great version of what's a
classic song, The Bobby Gentry one from part he might
have been back like sixties early seventies was one of
those really good songs when you think you never hear
a cover of better. Gee, that's that's a good beat
on that one. So thought your listeners might enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
How's everything out on the rod? Shittyway?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Is?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
What are we? The middle of August? We're seeing longer
days now we can hear the bird life relatively early
before dawn this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It was quite pleasant you certainly the last three or
four days have been a shift, Andy. We've enjoyed some
really nice warm days here and some good drying days.
So it's sort of that time of the year that
August can be a big definer on how well you're
set up come the spring, and we probably need it.
We've used it just the budget. The budget's working, but
(04:38):
if we can get a bit of growth, then I'm
comfortable when it comes to spreading out and you're not
trying to sneak those extra days, and very conscious with
that feed budget and daily allocation. You know, from here
on we need, we need, and we want to be
lifting them all. So, yeah, it's been a good couple
of days.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
No early lambs yet.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah, we've got a few, not enough to say they're planned.
So I always say, if you get locks, you put
them in the fre I've had a conso they planned
and if you're only getting a few, you've got to
hide them up the back. So yeah, no, we got
a few early ones.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Andy, Oh, you just don't it. It's a couple that
popped out because he's a rig running around or whatever.
It is a case of it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah, poor fence, poor fence somewhere on the farm, but no, Look,
they're actually due to start in about another within the
next week, the early ones is due to start. So
there was a couple this morning which just I think
you're probably planned, and so they're all getting spread out
today and they'll start leving another week.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Quite a lot happening in the political landscape at the moment.
How we will comment on this now Christopher Luxon remains
in charge of the country, prime Minister and leader of
the National Party. But you've got a bit more of
a centrist view on things. We spoke to you this
probably about a month ago, and there's amina recing scenarios
out there regarding coalitions and the like.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, look, I don't know, Andy. I think I'm probably
one of those people that's been frustrated by the divisive politics,
not only in New zeal but around the world between Trump,
between Farage, even some of our own political parties. It
seems to be playing a pretty divisive card which is
not really good for any of us. And a visit
policy too, which doesn't help. It doesn't help the economy
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at all. So, you know, I think I mentioned a
few interviews ago the Opportunity Party was someone that I
thought was going to play an interesting role and could
only see them, I mean, from growing and that was
when they're setting at about two percent. I see that
up to eight percent now. I think a lot of
people just want to see it grown up in the room.
And so you talk about what's happened with Luxeon and
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National it's I guess the problem is if you can't
control your own party, how can you actually even control
your coalition partners? And that's I guess what would be
my criticism of this coalition government is that you know
too much policy from those the two let's say to
the right, the smaller parties, and yeah, interesting. So it
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will be certainly very interesting to see what happens from
the Opportunity Party here, because I think their core policy
around a land value tax, which is their core revenue
raiser for the business plan as such, will become under
a much bigger scrutiny. And it will actually depend if
that's something that they say, well, this is aspirational, it's negotiable,
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or this is something that's a bit of an ideology
and we're prepared to retune it or with it.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Now, the Opportunity Party, they've got three primary reforms. First,
one is what they're calling a citizens income. They're promoting
a citizen's income or universal basic income of up to
three hundred and seventy dollars a week a nineteen four
hundred dollars a year for every citizen and resident age
over eighteen. So effectively, they want to make us a
wealfare state. Are you talked about the land value tax?
(07:47):
Calling for a one point seventy five percent annual tax
on the value of urban land and ero point five
percent on rural land, aims to quote redirect money from speculation.
Quote it says the policy is the breaking settings that
have driven house prizes to unconscious noble levels. They've said
that wrong, but you know what I mean. In other words,
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they're really high, and that land value tax alone would
pay for the citizens and citizens income with another four
billion dollars in revenue left over, the party claims, and
it's policy review and they want to do a few
changes around compulsory KIWI savers. So yeah, they just want
to tax their way into prosperity, which is never a
good thing.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Well, I think their ideological in their policy, and I
think a certain amount of naivety go going with that.
Andy and to two aspects for a universal tax. There's
some people in New Zealand that don't need help from
the government, and there's some people that clearly do. So
I don't see any point directing resources to a sector
that doesn't need help. So that's the first thing. And
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the second thing with their land value tax, it ignores
every other asset class of wealth in New Zealand, which
seems absolutely crazy and a bit biased. And yeah, so
it's interesting. And also in that they exclude municipal land,
eerie land, and crown land, so you know you're going
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to have twenty five thousand bona fide farmers in New
Zealand would actually be paying a fair bit of that tax.
That's just not a fair fix. I think it's about
four billion of the twenty eight billion they raised, will
estimate that it would come from the farming sector. So
I've got to take my hat after them though. I've
spoken to qua One and Daniel lev and they've been
very receptive to have that conversation. So it's really going
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to be where they view that, where they view that
land value tax. From here on, I think we'll influence
some of their support.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
People get sick of tax so Howie that's the issue.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Well, tax is just you know, we don't like the
word tax, Andy, but we use resources in that country,
we use infrastructure, and someone's going to pay for it.
So whatever you want to call it, there's actually a
requirement for everyone to contribute for the services that they receive.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Now, is that a there resting? They're talking in these
polls about TP the Top Party being up there national
and he's yell and first act. The current coalition is
one option. We know that, but the other will be
a four headed beast of Labor, Greens, To Party, Maury
and Top. But this is all based as well on
this polling of TO Party Maury retaining all their seats.
(10:19):
This is something that's been lost in translation along the way.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah, well to Party Maray has certainly done their own
amount of self destruction and I think Labor has been
building certainly momentum on some of those seats. So will
be interesting what to Party Mariy can hold. And you're
probably surmising their Andy when you say it's that four
parties on the left, because while Luxon has said he
won't work with Opportunities Party, I think it's a very
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premature call. To make and certainly as the Opportunities Party
gains momentum, they certainly may gain more credibility. And I've
got to say to me, they're the only ones at
the moment that are acting like the adult in the
room with their discussion. Everything else is very petty, divisive,
And I get it for trouble these labor and National
for their supporters. You know, they're the ones that are
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going to be sneaking over to the to the middle
ground of the Opportunity parties where the extreme left and right.
Then they can keep up their own rhetoric because they've
got their basic atal ten support and that's all they
want to hold on to.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Is there a good chance, though, this is just going
to get lost in election fatigue. We've still got three
months to go.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Well, I think the question is andy the economy. So
when you've got a lot of people under pressure and
our economy isn't doing great, unemployment isn't great, that becomes
that very much becomes the focus of your election dialogue.
And I can't see that I'm improving at the moment.
And you know, look, I'm not specifically blaming any party.
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We've a national borrowed heavily, and the GFC labor borrowed
heavily in COVID where where we are, and we just need,
I guess a business a business plan that's going to
get us out of it. And that's what we perhaps
haven't seen excrative from this coalition, the latest coalition party.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Just to wrap up, how are you your blecks? They
got the work, They got the job done over the
Sharks yesterday and the wet used they got fifty points
or so, but they had the Sharks to zero, which
was a pleasing factor. I really enjoying watching Ruben Love
grow as a footy player.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, a lot of confidence, a lot of right decisions.
You know, you look at your you look at your Malonga's,
you look at your Dan Carter's, you look at Ruben Love.
They make it look as though they've got more time.
They don't have any more time than anyone else with
the ball, but they've just got that vision and you know,
it makes it look as they've got time. And with
that they can create space, they can create options and
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I love we got a number ten that runs at
the line ended.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Don Morrison always good to catch up, enjoy the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yep, cheers Andy, catch you lad up.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Don Morrison there at Willow Bank. The song is what
is it? Ode to Billy Joe, Ode to Donald Morrison?
The helly how still N's up? Next from South Confederative Farmers,
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Welcome back to the Muster, Texas there with I don't
want a lover, I just need a friend. Well, a
lot of people wanting friends at the moment. When it
comes to local body politics, of course, local government reform
is the topic that has been hot for the past
couple of weeks. There's all these councils around the country
try to get everything dotted and crossed in the line
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so they can make a bit of sense on these
local body reforms that have basically been forced upon them
over the past couple of months. It's Christillan as president
of South Confederative Farmers and joins us once again to
talk about this and other matters. Good afternoon, Chris. Local
government reform. How have you found the process? I'd say frustrating.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Ah, y, it's been a little bit frustrating processes. Obviously,
there's a Local Government Commission that they're still going around
right through this week and into next week consulting with
communities but yeah, the head art process has been very frustrating.
There's been a lot of councilors that have engaged in
it and listened, and there's a lot that have really
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really shown their shown their hand on what they think
to community representation.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
This just comes across as egos at play.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Is that what you're insinuating, Well, it might have been
the government given them a chance for some of them
to do that. That's there's some people that have been
very engaged in the process and some that have not
have had real disregard for it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So Federated Farmers, though, have you been kept in the
up to date as to what's going on through the
local councils.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
We've been kept up with it through our own processes
right as you're where. We sailed a couple of public
meetings mid to the end of July there not to
tell anyone how to do it, but as informative to
the options, and we brought out some options in that's
when things like local boards and catch and boards were mooted.
(15:11):
The disappointment in some of that is the lack of engagement,
especially within the city, of any of that process. The
meeting we happened in Cargo, No city councilors bother to
turn up to it.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Was it organized with the council.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Yeah, it was organized with the council. It was organized
to be in Cargo so they could be there. It
was organized around so it wasn't going to class with
other events. And yeah, i'd suggest there was four in
the room from Cargo and a couple of them with.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
A reporters, Tom Campbell and Grant Dermody. They've been pretty
vocal around all this amalgamation with the one Selfland model.
What happened. They're just miscommunication perhaps.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Either miscommunication or that they're just going to think they
can do it their way anyway. But it just highlights
the fact that if you don't want if you want one,
that's fine, but that's how you're going to get treated
by the city.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So that's just straight away just looking between the lines.
You guys are frustrated, but there's going to be fractions
before we start.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
And looks a bit that way. They've had plenty of
chance to chance to engage. Yes, they have engaged with
environments south and but yeah, that that engagement process, I
think you had the joy of sitting through it as well. Uh,
that was like sending an arsiness to to help we're
to put.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Out fire, so one might have putting on a suppose CD. Hey,
look as far as environments south and then this whole process,
they've got their point of view around it. The dialogue
you've had recently, what's there being with.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
The environments out and sorry, yes, yeah, I know. We've
always kept in good dialogue with with environments, of which
usually with good dialogue is probably not the word, but
always very engaged with environments often. Yeah, they tend to
test us every now and then.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
They so robust dialogu would be a better understanding.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Then that would be the word here.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, okay, what about all the council South and District Council,
Gord District Council and Vicago City Council environments Southland. Surely
you guys have been kept in the loop because that's
a concern for a lot of people. With the one
Southland model is engaging rural and sticking it in within.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
The cargo exactly, and it improves with the Gord District
Council engage well with the survey and it showed survey
the dirics in that one to go. Unfortunately, for some
reason they voted on it and that was fine, and
then they put another proposal through which basically made how
they voted at point. And I just can't understand that
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people and the council. You've got to realize you're representing
your your rate pace, You're not representing yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Would you say these samples create a good sample size,
so considering a feedback they get from them is pretty limited.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Yet from for yanitary models, for all the studies we did,
totally it feeds that fits the mold. Good to have too,
and maybe in time take that two into one. But
when Auckland went to super City it was a disaster.
If the head of stage that they would have got
a lot better.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
It was interesting when a few councils up north were
pretty open and vocals saying we're not doing anything. We'll
wait for the government to come back to us and
give us us some directions. What do you make of that?
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Yeah, there was a lot of a lot of that.
There was a lot of the ones that did have
a direction kind of left a few poor custins out
beside them. So it didn't actually work that well. So
it needed it needed a really big look into it
and that's lucky enough in South and here we've got
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this local government commission process already that's been going on
for a long time, and let's.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Just hope that someone that can get finished and some
of those recommendations can go through before they said that
process gets fully decided.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Let's be honest about this whole situation. Are we pissing
into the whims trying to get everybody on the same
page to get an outcome?
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Ah? Yeah, that would be applied by of putting it
probably if it does go to a referendum voter, it's
never going to get voted on anyway. It was proved
last time they tried to amalgamate, so it could be
one of the reasons are going about it the way
they are.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
One other thing as well. A big topic this week
was the National Party now Federated Farmers. You are apolitical,
but at the same time, with the rural lens a
supposed ability and the governments what it is, what is
required given they've been pretty farmer friendly.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
A political is probably where it says we're not involved
in that political stuff. We follow it closely, but yes
we don't favor anyone.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You follow it closely. That's called covering your basis. I suppose,
I mean, yeah, you got to I mean blocks of peede.
Do you get him actually, Peter McDonald, labor candidate for Southland.
Do you talk to Peter match?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I haven't spoken to Peter for a month or so,
but they'll run into him at the other event. Yeah
you can as you have a good chat about things.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, it's a good rapport going on between yourself and him.
I say we did have a change of government, A yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
We would probably be having quite a few discussions if
we were too. But yeah, I do think what's happened
with the National Party, it's been a storm in a
teacup whole. What happened in the last two days. And
it was proved yesterday that that was the case.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Crystal, And thanks to your time as always, Thank you Andy,
Crystal and a Federated Farmers not sugar Cody get there.
Let's how you'd expect it was c D. Dave Stevens
is up next to the Beef and Lamb slot talking
feeding multiple use.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
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Speaker 2 (21:00):
Evens joins this afternoon in the Beef and Lamb slot,
talking about lamb survival is the big issue. Lambing isn't
too far away for a few people, the first of
the early lambs almost hitting the ground now, actually where
is the time gone? He's based on a research and
I'm going to give some figures and some tips today
around past, your management and the lead up to September. Dave,
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welcome to the muster.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
You thinks Andy much appreciated, great dev beyond the radio
and have a chat about this.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, it's a massive topic for a lot of people.
You're trying to work to your past, your management, into
your into your farm rotation, the big a couple of
big things to consider around this straight off the cuff
as well. You know what, what's your ground conditions like?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (21:43):
Yeah, indeed, indeed, previous history tells us that if you
make sure that you do get your drainage righte and
keep their ground as dry as possible at Lemming, you're
going to improve your lamb survival quite significantly. That's that's
just just the start of the process.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Would you say over all the farmers are pretty good
at passion management and the lead up to Lemon.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Overall, I suppose there's a couple of there's a couple
of features in there. One is how much feed you've got,
and then the other one is how you allocate that feed,
and and I think we're getting a head around how
much we've got in front of us. But I still
think a lot of our farmers are set stocking too early.
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They're sort of letting go of their control of that
intake a week bit too early. If you are stocking,
set stocking recently, early in the grass disappears very fast.
It's a very rapid indicator that you possibly weren't feeding
them quite enough up until that point. So just just
keep that in mind when you when you are thinking
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about what you're going to do next.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So how early are people set stocking then if you
think they need to hold off a bit.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Well, quite often they may be set stocking nearly a
month out from lambing. But I would say I'll be
keeping my control, especially if you know the conditions in
the spring, conditions are not going the way you'd like.
I mean, temperatures are fifteen degrees is great on a
daylight today, but if it's not the I would be
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controlling their intakes up till maybe the last week before lamming,
because what we find here Andy is that it's actually
most of our losses come from what you did to
the you up until that point, rather than the lamb
dying on the day. If it dies on the day,
that's just a week but unfortunate. But it's how we
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look at after the youth. It's the really important factor.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
As far as singles, people tiding them right up and
the lead up to lemming. Is that the right philosophy
to have in the scheme of things.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
With singles, they become a little bit of your relief valve.
So if you need, for example, you need a bit
more feed for the triplets, then that's an opportunity certainly.
But I would say that once they go to lambing,
especially if you've got a fair few triplets, I would
mix my singles and my triplets together at lambing, which
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is again why you'd say let's not let's keep control
of their intakes up until that point, and then what
you're doing is you're set stocking at the number of
lambs to be born per hectare, not number of us
per hectare. And if you mix the singles and the
triplets together there's more space for the triplets, and the
singles will grow flat out under those circumstances and you'll
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be able to sell them early. So it's a win
win situation. They're all around.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Is there a chance allocating too much feed to these
singles though, that there could be birth problems for hands
like big heads?
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Not in that instance. No, No, that's sort of the
differentiation between head and body weight is probably more likely
to be underfeeding early on. So at that point in time,
I mean, we've we've fed singles ad lib, giving them
as much feed as triplets, and all we get is
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a really good lambs at weaning time.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So for people that are holding their singles back, leaving
them on the swedes or the beat till the very
last moment, you think they can perhaps think again. And
the other two parts of this question I suppose, and
the rise of triplets too. It's it's another area that
needs addressed as far as feed allocation.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Yeah, it's and it's not just feed allocation there, and
it's actually the protein concentration. So so if you've got
a really good swede crop with big bulbs, there's not
very much protein in that in those in that feed
and protein is really important in that last month. So
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so yes, we understand that sometimes the singles need to
stay on the swedes a week bit longer. But what
I would do in that sort of really late pregnancy
time is not certainly don't put any pressure on them
to clean up the bulb. Make sure that they're still
getting plenty of top as they go across there, and
don't worry too much about the bulb that's left behind.
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And now where you'll start to balance the diet out
a wee bit better and make it more appropriate for
a heavily pregnant year.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
What would you say about the correlation between too much
feed and bearing issues?
Speaker 8 (26:24):
Bearings, We love the bearing issue, one of we were
talking about this this morning actually amongst their colleagues, and
we've done a lot of work in this space over time,
and probably the key would be no sudden changes. So
if you suddenly change from one feed to another, or
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from low quality feed to high quality feed, there is
a tendency to have some serious issues. So the first
first port of call no sudden changes. So if they
were on a reader reasonably moderate allowance, don't allow them
to gorge themselves. That's not a good. Look, the rest
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of that question goes, when we do provide them with
high allowances, then we have no more bearing issues than
when they're on low allowances. Right, So it's not the
allowance per se, it's the sudden change from one condition
to another that appears to be associated with it. Having
said all that, Andy, we really don't know what causes
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bearings as yet.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And the rest thing you talk about the feed needs
of twins in the life, do you think transitioning off swedes?
You hear about it in kettle all the time. Should
it be applied to shape, for example, a bit better
than how we do it?
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Quite often all we do is dump them on pasture.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Right.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
If you're going to do that, I would say you
put them onto a moderate quality Pastu're not a really
high quality pasture for a start, and it would be
nice to be able to transition them. They transition over
about the course of five days, so transitioning back to
pasture is less traumatic than going from pasture to crop.
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And the problem is even a four or five day
period in this really late pregnancy where there are their
intakers restricted, may well impact on lamb survival. So some
sort of trying to transition them back would be a
good idea if it's practical for far.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I suppose the last question of God as well as
regarding stocking rates, you talked about it briefly before. Do
we need to look at stocking rates on farm during
lambing time.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
Over lambing time again? I would think about it as
lambs being born perhected, not about use PERJECTAA And a
lot of farmers will make that stocking rate core based
on how much grass they have and how far they
can spread the user. They will try to get the
stocking rate as low as possible to avoid some of
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those complications. But we certainly now have the experience and
all the experiences that we have had reflected to us
from farmers is actually lambing triplets on their own, regardless
of stocking rate is hard work, I'd have to say,
which is why we're coming back going we'll mix them
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with the singles and dilute that effect quite significantly.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
So overall, and it depends on the scenario. If farmers
are going through and doing a lambing beat, et cetera
and shedding out, then they'll be able to run slightly
high stocking rates than somebody who's just said stop, because
they'll be able to identify the using lambs move the
US that haven't lambed on. If you're in hill country
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where you can't do that, then you're very much trying
to stock according to how much feed is growing under
their feet.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It's a fascinating it's a fascinating subject this day, but
I could talk about it for a lot longer, but
time is of the years since. But nonetheless very interesting,
especially around the triplets and the singles. Thanks to your
time on the muster. Certainly a conversation starter.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
All good. Hopefully there's some good results out there this year.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Dave Stevens the have some very interesting thoughts regarding triplets
and singles. Beeflamen z dot com slash events to receive
the beef Them Eboch Diary into your ebochs every Friday morning.
Triff Stark's up next, talking Southern indoor charity dog trials.
Speaker 9 (30:39):
She's from Texas, Second Tail Bar away.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
He's just stabbing rather room and judging by the smile tree.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Welcome back to the muster. Away out to the Southern
field days side a way Moomo. Now to catch up
with tref Stark. He's involved with the Southern Indoor Charity
Dog Trial which is underway tomorrow. Trev. Welcome to the muster.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Thanks Andy, No good to be along.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Right, So, what is it the eleventh edition of the
Southern Indo a Charity Dog Trail tomorrow? Is it correct?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
That's correct. This is the eleventh year. So you know
we've been started off I think for rescue Helicopter in
the first years and or first one or two years
and then it's been all going to Hospice since and
we're very proud to support hospice.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
How much have you raised over those years? Was a
figure I read like one hundred and forty thousand dollars
or something.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, I think that'd be correct.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
That's pretty good going for an organization that you guys
are out there.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Well, the beauty about it is we can there's not
many dog trials at this time of the year and
guys can come out run their dogs, have a bit
of fun, but of socializing and know all the whole
way we're raising money for hospice.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
So how many competitors turn up from up north?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
None from the North Island, but we do go as
far as Blenham, so there's Blenhim and quite a few
out of Canterbridge.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
So it's fair to say it's got a good word
out there and people have you to travel for these events.
All you guys that do that, your sales are is
going up country.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, that's that's probably one of the bonuses of the
things that's traveling. It's all we've got to get. It
goes together and away you go.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
So how much organization goes into an event like this?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Oh look, let's take a bottom. There's there's a committee
of sixteen and they're an awesome committee. Everyone for the
pools that wait, everyone has jobs to do. It probably
starts a month ago that we put in call for
entries for it, and then the secretary puts Jude puts
all the plates, all the entries and we do a
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draw the week leading up to it. All this week
leading up to that we've trained the sheep and sheetting
basically setting up. So yeah, and there's a good crew
here to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
How many shape are involved?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
About five hundred?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Jeez, that's a few. They just source.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Likely I suppose there are source from Mark Taylor next
door to us or next door to the field days
the still lands that he's raising on the ground, so
this year was sport. In the past we've had to
truck them on, which is a little bit more awkward,
but I haven't made it's all. It's just great to
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have everything here.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
So over the next three days Friday, Sateurer, on Sunday
Sunday trev what can people expect?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Public are more than welcome to come out and see
some good dogs working. We start at seven and probably
go to of US five six each day finals on Sunday,
which we're hoping to be about sometime I Rember eleven
o'clock orfrectionally after so the top five from the first
(33:52):
two days because of sixty five odd runs a Thursday
and the top two from the Sunday have a run off.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Again.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Is all just hitting dogs, Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
It's just hitting dogs?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Ye Are you doing the backup this year?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
No, we're not, but we do. We do run a training.
We've got two guys coming down from christ Church, Andy
mcmah Andy Clark and Ian Stevenson who are going to
be coaching kids on how to train dogs or any
young It's not for you, but any young people that
are interested in learning how to train dogs to help them.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
So I've seen that on your social channels. You're looking
at working with Tailford and likes getting young students to
come along for taps. There has it been good buying
from that from areas likes Telford.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, there has been some buying and growing Future Farmers
is another one that's been very good buying from. So yeah,
and we encourage like if they go and have a
go at this and watch this year. If they're not,
if they think they're not up to what encourage them?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
How would you describe the dog for dog trialing fraternity
on a whole at the moment tree is it in
a pretty good spot?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I think so. It's probably the age beverage age is
climbing up, but there's still there's still a good bunch
of young people coming into it.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So the passion remains for the industry. That that's the
undying thing around this. I suppose I reckon.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The passion's definitely there.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
Yeah, now you're.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Think, sorry, mate, you're defending champions from last year as well.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
No pressure, there's no precis who told you there?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It's on social channels. Everyone can see.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It right right.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Just regarding the competition for the public, if they want
to turn up as a gold cone, gold cone gold
coin donation or anything you'd appreciate or what's the.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Go Look, we would appreciate it because anything goes to hospice.
But there is no entry fee. We don't charge anything
for anyone wanted to come in and watch your So yeah,
we encourage the public to come and if they want
to make a donation, that is entirely up to them.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
It's all getting underway. Tomorrow's seven aear out at the
Southern Field day side at way Moo Move the Southern
Indoor Charity Dog Trial trip start. Thanks for your time
on the muster and good luck defending your title.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Can I just say one more thing, Andy, Yes, just
want to thank the sponsors. We've got an awesome bunch
of sponsors and I think they need to be acknowledged.
And if people come along and see see who all
has sponsored this, please support them as they can. That's
what it's all about. So yeah, don't go a long
(36:44):
way to what we're giving to hospice. All proceeds go
to Hospice, but that sponsorship certainly goes a long way.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Go work tray of all the best for the next
three days.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Thanks any Steven rather.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Tris Stark based out of the Southern Indoor Charity Dog
Trialing and defeating champion of the event getting under way
tomorrow at seven am. Gold Cone doing that gold coin
donation going towards Southern Hospice as well. So if you're
not up to much this week in the weather looks okay,
head out to my moomy we go and watch some
quality dog trialing. Well recommended. Nathan Brandon's up next to
wrap up Jacobaaself.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
It's choosing Texas.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I can conce warm you deal same Welcome back to
the muster. The theme today is Texas for no reason whatsoever?
Part of some good Junes. That song there called say
what you Want? Is it spoiling? Gary? Nathan Burden, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah? Pretty good? How are you where it is that
you won't need to bring your boots to Stags training tonight?
They're suffering?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Well, yeah, so you've been getting pretty desperate if if
we got to that situation, But you know that's been
the Stags are going through some challenges at the moment.
It hasn't been a bit of an emotional sort of
a hangover this week. I think after the weekend obviously,
you know, we celebrated five years of your good self
on the Muster on Friday night, and there were the highs,
(38:09):
and then things got even higher on Sunday afternoon into
the late evening with the Sharks at the NBL Grand Final,
and then and then things ended a little bit of
a disappointing note. So a bit of a bit of
an emotional rollercoaster over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Just how bad is the injury situation with the Stags.
It sounds like Jack Taylor may be gone for the season.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Doesn't sound promising, does it. And if you was a
player that you didn't want to lose, it was definitely
Jack Taylor. I mean, I think we were initially not concerned,
I guess, but we were initially sort of wondering whether
Jack might have been on his way over to South
Africa for the Greatest Rivalry Tour and the you know,
(38:49):
the All Blacks loss was our game, super rugby quality
player already having a big season, and I guess we
saw it first half the Stags against Mano or two
that Mitch Dunche Jack Taylor combo was just exceptional. Line
out was absolutely firing in that game and I guess
Jack and that injury coming off in the second half
(39:12):
was I guess one of the reasons that the Stags
started to stumble and ultimately couldn't get across the line
up at.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Palmpson North, losing in the last minute like that, conceding
those three tries and doing a box cack with ninety
seconds to go. Whatever it was, Charlie mash a very
very good player. Somebody must have called for a bit
in hindsight, Gee, he's won his time again.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, I think, yeah, Charlie will undoubtedly learned from that.
But also, you know, there's also I guess there's a
bit of a cruel element to look at one particular
mark in the game. If the Stags had have won
that game, we wouldn't even be talking about that, about
that box kick. Then there were moments before and after that,
you know that contributed to that, and we could even wonder,
(39:54):
you know, were there not a couple of other TV
angles that we possibly could have looked at in terms
of that that last try. So I guess it just
when we're getting down to those fine margins. It's such
a such a key result. These are two teams who
are battling away at one end of the spectrum in
terms of this year is in PC, so it would
(40:15):
have been fantastic to get that one up there. I
think we talked about it as a must win game.
Really interesting to see one of my old coaches, David Henderson,
actually bring a bit of sensibility to the argument and say,
hang on, you know, let's treat this more around a
longer term project. We've got some really good young talent
(40:36):
coming through South and rugby at the moment, let's not
get too disparated around eighty minutes of rugby. This is
about ensuring that we can sort of put a team
together that over the next few years we can see
the likes of Jack Taylor, Jimmy Taylor sewn with he
see some of these guys that have been coming through
the academy and the pathways and actually give them an
opportunity to shine and this could be a Southern team that,
(40:58):
if they do it well, you know, in the next
two or three years, could do some special things.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I've seen that comment by Dave and it was it
was interesting and I suppose the other side of it,
as we're consistently being told this competition is a sprint
and you just got to hit the ground from the
get go. So those combinations need to be formed.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, it's the it's the tricky thing is and it's
professional sports. So the US and ours are what it's
about at the end of the day. But I guess
you know, you look at the South and Stags in
a different way than we do is to maybe a
Southern Steel or a Southern Sharks, where you know it's
all about winning that it's all about winning that title.
(41:38):
Is this team. This team's more about sort of we
want to win, but we also you know, we could
just draft in twenty three overseas guys and try and
win a title or something like that. But it's it's
about sort of giving as many of the local guys
a chance to shine as they can. And again, I'll
just I just got back. There are some real positive
signs and I think you know it some of the
stuff that Rugby South is done around the ahead of
(42:00):
me and keeping some of those players that up in
the need and keeping them in the fold. There are
some positive things in there, and you know we need
to look beyond sort of eighty minutes and parting North.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Why didn't the referee go upstairs in that last minute
or is it not available? Did they not have the
camera available?
Speaker 3 (42:19):
If not, that cemtu l better be my assumption that
I guess that's there's not as much money probably going
into the into the production. I could be right, could
be wrong, but my assumption would be there's not as
much money going into the production, not the same angles
that we see, thank goodness from international rugby, where we
(42:43):
can spend ten minutes sort of over analyzing every single
decision that gets made and the game gets killed off.
So I guess you know that we can Can we
have it both ways? Can we have it so that
every decision is one hundred percent correct? Or do we
want to actually just get on with the game.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Here's one, get rid of the team over those super
rugby level. Bang, it's gone. Let's just live with the decision.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah, hard to argue with that one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
The Sharks South had Sharks Jonathan Jim on the show
on Monday. He was a fantastic chat as well. Not
long after the Sharks beat the Saints in the final
the NBL, you were there at the game. You've had
a bit of a skin in the game regarding this team.
Just describe what it means to this franchise.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I've just like I've loved the last season. The last
two years have been an amazing project. You know, the
Sharks as an organization took a real punt to bring
Jonathan Yim. No head coaching experience, but obviously massive work ethic,
(43:41):
some amazing connections and a huge basketball i Q brought
him out here and I think a huge leap of
faith for Jonathan and his wife too to come out
here all the way from San Francisco to the Cargo
and put this team together. And then when you look
(44:01):
at the players, I guess so they fell just short
in that Grand Final in twenty twenty five and all,
but you know Josiah Alac sort of coming back and
trying to get the job done in twenty twenty six,
and it was one of the special occasions to be
at Ilt Stadium south and a real privilege to be
there for that Grand Final. The irony of a Southland
(44:24):
chant sort of coming out late in the late stages
of that game, something you normally hear coming from the
Rugby Park terrace. You know, it was my hands were
shaking heading into the into the last sort of minutes
of that game and then it goes to overtime. It
was just it was a fantastic occasion, knowing what we
knew about the backstory, knowing that, you know, Jill Bolger,
(44:46):
who had been there for seventeen years, had helped establish
that team, and you know this was her last game
potentially in in that role. You just so barely wanted
the team to be able to do it for Jill
and all those people had been there throughout the seventeen
years of that franchise. So it was very, very cool.
Just a great way to finish the season.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Just quickly to wrap up Ethan de Greet's resigned through
to twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yeah, great, fantastic, isn't it. And just listening to some
of his comments around wants to be a one club,
only wants to play for South and only wants to
play for the Highlands. Loving his time with the All
Blacks forty three Tests and counting playing some of the
rugby of his life. He said, a fantastic Super Rugby
campaign and he's just boxed on under Dave Rennie. But
(45:33):
yeah he'll learn a lot during this tour, you know.
Loving his time coming up against some of these packs
in South Africa as well. So yeah, fantastic to help
him back on board.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Can on your notes. Enjoy the weekend, lovely thanks.
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See tomorrow. Hey well all right, too heavy?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Go there and what are it?
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Go on again?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
PGG write and once again present stock selling action which
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us to give a rundown on prices. Good afternoon, Tiga,
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Speaker 3 (46:40):
Andy?
Speaker 10 (46:40):
You're up pretty quiet day today? That come a year?
Speaker 3 (46:44):
But to start the.
Speaker 10 (46:45):
Prime lams mister the crime names three hundred to three
thirty of the mcraham's course, many lams sort of two
fifties sixty, and the light of the primes around it's
sort of two ten to five. Like I said, small
yarding there today in the US, very quiet in the
new the new section today like you sold well, sort
(47:06):
of one thirty five to one sixty, and the bit
of the news from two hundred to twenty two thirty.
But like I said, small yarding there. Stall lambs probably
back away. That is now obviously with the umult of
the season. Yes, the stall lambs one sixty to two hundred,
many themes so one fifty one to fifty five.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
And the lighter store.
Speaker 10 (47:27):
Lambs which obviously we went last in the season. There
s one twenty one twenty five. Then that wraps it
up any
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