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Andy Muir talks to Phil Duncan, Morgan Greene, Michelle Watt, Jason Pine and Tom O'Brien.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nathan Ebernethy is on the line once again as we
catch up every Friday here on the musta good ay, Nathan, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good ay another Yeah. It's actually a good day out there,
isn't it. It's could be warmer, but it could be cooler.
The sunshining, which certainly after yesterday in the last few days.
But now look the thing they've taken away here. Another
week is done and dusted. Hard to believe. We're halfway
through May now a game. Things are really busy. Everybody's
pretty positive out there, so hopefully that continues, and it's

(00:26):
really good to see some amazing deals happening on new
vehicles at the moment. And we've got some just refreshed
Ranger and refreshed Everest to starting to arrive. If anybody's
around and wants to pop it and have a look.
By all means we've got everybody here we can show you.
But look used vehicles. We've got some terrific used vehicles
coming through the door at the moment. I think we've
had about three or four twenty twenty one's come through

(00:48):
the door in the last few days. These vehicles have
got the flares and everything in the leather trim and
the heated seats from eighty thousand k's and all sort
of hanging around that forty five nine to ninety price bracket,
including VST still in the new vehicle warranty, so worth
a look at. But plenty more here Andy, and if
there's anything we can do, as always here to laughter
five and the doors will we open at nine thirty

(01:09):
in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Get on your Nathan, enjoy the weekend you too.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Andy, Good afternoon, and welcome to the Musterine Hakanui.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
My name's Andy Muir. I'll be it a little bit
croaky today, and none of LEAs we carry on here.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's at two o'clock and the show is brought to
your boy Peterson Ix. Welcome along to Frye. As we
have a little bit of sunshine over the main street
of Gore, cloudy on the horizon. We'll look at the
weather in detail. We'll feel duncan very very shortly, but
we crank straight. In Friday Tunes, Van Halen's.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Gone Hakanui's five day Forecast with twin farm tear from
and subtext. The proof is in the progeny tear from
dot Co John n'z.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
It's a bit of a ritz and repeat in the
forecast just quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, this afternoon looking at cloudy skies with very calm,
variable winds and ten. Saturday sunny with variable wins one
and ten. Sunday fog followed by sunshine with variable winds
following zero and nine. Monday very similar fog with sunshine
following calm, variable.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Wins zero in ten and finally on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
You guessed it, but the cloudy bit calm variable wins
two and twelve. So temperatures to add Clinton ten point one,
Northern Southland nine, Riveton eleven point three, tier Now nine
point three, Tittoro at eleven win to nine and Woodlands ten.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Phil Duncan of weather Watch he.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Goes into detail regarding the southern forecast for the next
seven days to get us under way this afternoon. Follow
up by Morgan Green off Any Svetes. Michelle Watt joins
us in the Country Crossover. Great news regarding Wall from
the sale that occurred yesterday in christ Church, so we
talk about that. Jason pine of News Talk ZMB Sport

(03:03):
he's over at Major Crown, so we're catching out of
Piney giving us an update on the vibe around Suncorp
Stadium at the moment, and Thomas O'Brien at Garston Correspondent
wraps the hour so it will crank straight into it
now with Phil Duncan. This is the Muster and it's
brought to you by Peter's Genetics.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
And Stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Once again at this time to catch up with Phil
Duncan of weather Watch.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Jacob Good afternoon, Phil Duncan.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Good ay, gooday.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
How are you going very well? Straight off the bat.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
We're not getting any frosts here and Gored, I believe
parts of the region are well. When are we going
to start seeing a bit more of a cooler cycle
here in the south?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
You're going to start singing at this weekend. Temperatures drop
quite a bit this weekend and it could be fairly
gloomy in some areas because there's fog forecast as well
as frost at the same time, and so you know,
you get the frost developed and then the fog coming
in over the top of it. That's forecast around Sunday
and Monday. The fog there couldn't be fog earlier than that.

(04:38):
You might get some tonight tomorrow, but yeah, Sunday Monday's
got the higher risk of getting that fog coming back
through again. So it's I think you'll there'll be foggy
patches around this weekend and to kick off next week.
The frost risk Tonight's flow is too so but there
could be cloud around and depends on when that fog four.

(05:00):
But certainly there's certainly the chance of some frost this
weekend because the overnight lows dropped to one degree Saturday
night in Gore, which means it'll be minus something in
the areas around you, and Sunday night down to zero,
Monday night down to minus one. So we've got lower
temperatures and they don't bounce back up again till Wednesday
next week. That's when you've got an overnight low of seven.

(05:23):
Thursday next week overnight low of eight, and when we
talk a week from now, overnight low of six. So
the temperatures do lift up next week. And the reason
for this weather, We've got this big anticyclone high pressure
moving across the country. It's pretty powerful. The air pressure
is about ten thirty eight to ten forty hector pascals.
That's pretty powerful, and so that just keeps things mostly dry.

(05:46):
But as the high moves from over in the Tasman
and over to the east coast. That's when you start
to get a very slight change in the airflow of
more of a northerly. Now you don't feel that because
there's no wind. Really, the general airflow when it's northerly
had a little bit more moisture in it, and so
you end up getting these foggy areas and these cloudy areas.

(06:07):
So I do think unless the fog burns off on
Sunday and Monday, you know, pretty promptly, I think you
are looking at some fairly cloudy weather coming through over
the next several days. So it'll be oft and on.
Hopefully will get some after the sun or some evening
clear spells in there. But it does look as though, yeah,
fairly cloudy kind of week coming up and not much

(06:28):
in the way of wet weather because of all that
high pressure. So it won't be till the high moves
off New Zealand, which it doesn't look like that'll happen
till the end of next week, round Thursday or Friday
or Saturday, and that sort of time frame, that's when
I think you'll get a bit of a cold front
coming through temperatures will drop again for next weekend with
single digit daytime highs and probably a few showers around,

(06:51):
but it doesn't look like much. I'm seeing probably around
ten millimeters, you know, give or take a few millimeters.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, that's not bad for the middle of my likes
of this morning, such degrees at daylight. But these days
are about to end.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
Yeah, the temperature drops tonight. You definitely notice that the
temperature tonight will be down, and it's down all the
way through till Wednesday night next week. So the high
pressure zone is really big and it's keeping almost all
of New Zealand dry. The only areas that are getting
frequent showers of the eastern side of the North Island
from sort of wide and up er up to especially
northern Hawks Bay and Gisbon, and then also on the

(07:26):
eastern side of Northland. But if you fur the south
of that, if you're in places like Auckland and Why
Cuts of Taranaki, and if you're in Nelson and Marlbourne,
the west coast of Canterbury and Otago, all of those
areas are looking quite sunny other than that fog wisk
that could be around so coastal areas might be a
little cloudy, but inland areas plenty of sunshine, plenty of frost,

(07:48):
and like I say, there could be foggy areas and
sometimes it doesn't happen as much in Southland. We seem
to capture it a bit better in Southland, but further inland,
once you're into Otago. Sure, in the high country of
Canterbury you can sometimes have a sun icon and it
seems like beautiful sunny weekend and you get that inversion
layer of fog which is very localized and doesn't clear

(08:11):
away for a few days. So I'm hoping that doesn't happen.
But because most people don't like that that weather. Fog
is one of those things that some people love, but
usually when it drags on, they don't like it. After
a while, like it very quickly you get tired of it.
But a foggy morning can be quite nice, sort of
peaceful and gentle and quiet. But then yeah, if it's
still there at two in the afternoon, you sort of

(08:33):
feel a bit differently about it.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Well, this is pretty good, all things consider. Because we're
going into winter grazing season. The animals are just starting
on crops or going onto the rotations and the Panics,
and if there's no rain about, they're not going to
leave a mess. So there's one positive, Yeah, definitely, it's
it's a positive for a number of places, you know,
from a soil moisture point of view.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Southland's and a pretty good set up at the moment.
A little further north sow up in Otago, especially eastern Otago,
coastal Otago and part of Canterbury, like the Canterbury Plains
and around christ Church. Those areas are drier than usual
at the moment, so obviously they're just going to get
dryer in the coming week. The North Island, there are
a couple of pockets of dry just here and there,

(09:13):
but it's pretty pretty good actually going into this dry
spell we're in and a lot of people are asking me,
is this al Nino. It's not yet, We're still in neutral.
The latest forecast does still say that al Nino is
going to develop this winter, but how that affects New
Zealand is still a bit of a question mark. But
usually we get a lot of high pressure in the
Tasman Sea and that encourages westerly winds and that can

(09:36):
dry out Southland and it can dry out, obviously the
eastern side of the country to begin with, So that's
what we'll be looking for going into the next month
or two, just how dry some of these places become.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Just finally as well.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Found this interesting a snap from a news site This week.
Auckland is in for its first cold snap of the year,
with single digit temperatures forecast for the next week make
the city feel it's chilliest since early spring. The city
of Sales is and for temperatures as low as seven
degrees of temperatures under ten degrees expected to stick around
for as consecutive days. Holy Hecker, Phil, how will you cope?

Speaker 5 (10:13):
I know it's it's I'm so glad that that's become
a major headline, and you know, I appreciate the empathy
that I mean, it's it's funny. I mean, I get
I sort of understand why. You know, it's our biggest
city and it's it's the coldest spell we've had. But yeah,
if you're outside of the city and you're looking at
that headline, you just laugh, don't you, because it is
kind of funny, and we're actually having really beautiful weather

(10:36):
because our south we've got a southeasterly wind, which is
why the eastern side of the North Island is pretty
gloomy and cold and I've got showers and it's not
very pleasant. But if you're on the other side of
the ranges, on the western side that covers you know,
half of Northland, all of Auckland, waikutto right down to
parts of Taranaki Manawatu, all of those areas have brilliantly

(10:57):
beautifully sunny weather, unless, of course, you got the fog
in some of those valleys and some of those areas.
But generally speaking, there's a lot of sunny weather around
and the South Island's no different. There's some coastal cloud
especially in Southland and coastal Otago. Some of that might
be breaking up now, but yeah, we're going to be
seeing these cloudy periods and coastal areas off and on

(11:17):
over the next week. High pressure at this time of
the year, you know, you get a cold night, light winds,
and the sea temperatures are much warmer than the air
temperature is, so it ends up making this cloud and
it can be gloomy, and it's called anti cyclonic gloom.
And if you live on the western side, of New Zealand,
but also Southland gets it too. It can sid of
hang around for quite a while and be kind of

(11:38):
gloomy for days on end.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
So Duncan of weather Watch, nothing gloomy about your weather
forecast down here in the South for your biggest fans.
Keep out the fantastic work.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Thank you mate, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
So Duncan of weather Watch, go online and find as
excellent website too and a zapp and we'll find out
what you need to rout the weather for the next
seven days here in the South.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Morgan Green of videos Fits. We catch up next.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
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Speaker 1 (12:18):
Morgan Green of vedeas Fits catches up once again.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Good a Morgie, how are you good?

Speaker 5 (12:24):
Thanks Andy?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
How are you doing? Ye're pretty good? But if a
man flu, but that's my issue. Look it sounds as.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Though you'll be half dying.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Then if that's the stop it, you carry on. You
know that's life right.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
But you've been upen. We shall survive and we shall
pervo it.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Hey, Morgie, you've been up in Queenstown underesting data regarding
teat ceiling.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Yeah, look, there's been just some new data come out
on teat seal, which yeah, look was pretty interesting and
I guess you'll probably one of the overriding themes of
it is, you know, in general, we haven't perfected our
management you know, around it yet, and you know it's

(13:10):
around you know, how is peat seal persisting in the
other you know some of the I guess expectations and
perceptions that we have around it, And yeah, the fact
that look, not all teat seal stays where it's meant
to in in the teeth cistern itself. And I guess

(13:31):
from the studies that have been done, some cows lose
teat seal pretty much straight after insertions. So you know,
there's been evidence that where cows have run out of
the shed afterwards that you know, teat seal has been
seen on the rails and things like that as you know,
as those others are flapping as they go past, So
it's lost straight away if cows let down milk, so

(13:53):
you know, maybe they've been shifted and they're close to
the shed and they go into some milk let down.
Some of the teat seal can be lost then and
then also some of the teat seal just goes up
into the glands. So they've done serial X rays because
teet seal actually shows up on X rays, and you
have cows that the teet seal is sitting perfectly in
the teeth, and then three four weeks later it's not
in the teet it's all up in the glands. And

(14:16):
from the point of view of persistency, the lack of
persistency is definitely more common in cows rather than heifers,
so you know quite a few issues there.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Breed can be a.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Factor, age is a factor. Front teeths versus back teeth
all a factor. So it's say, yeah, some very interesting
stuff come out of it. And also they've done a
bit of a trial, which is an off label trial
where they put teet seal into cows that had been
dried off four weeks previously, so essentially trying to mimic

(14:52):
what happens in in dairy heifers when you're putting teet
seal in, so you're putting it into an involuted gland.
So I'm promising data coming out of that. But of
course the real challenge around it is going to be
how practical is it to do that, but certainly reducing
some of the issues around that we see around clinical

(15:12):
mass idis rates afterwards, you know, both from the point
of view of I guess normal strip hubris mass IDUs,
which a lot of the time is probably not noticed,
but then also the toxic staff aureous mass IDUs, which
is where we.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Get the sick cows.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
So yes, it looks some very interesting stuff to come
out of it, and you know it'll be a little
bit of watch this space with regards to what happens
in future. But yeah, I guess the overriding theme is, look,
it is an effective treatment, but we do need to
manage the process really well from the point of view
of hygiene, but equally as important to the management of

(15:48):
the cows around the dry down process, So not just
the day of dry off itself, but the week beforehand
that we're getting our nutrition right, and in particular the
last two or three three days before the day of
dry off really really important. So there's some of the
things you know, to consider, and obviously if people are
you know, more interested, they should be talking to you know,

(16:10):
talking to their vessor to their nutrition advisor around some
of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
There's a pretty predic coded tight sale four weeks after
dry off that considering they'll be on cropping the likes.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Yeah, but that's that's exactly it. It may not be
practical at all. It may be practical. We're we're you know,
pep that heard homes you know that they're going to
be right beside the shed anyways, that that may be
something that is practical. But yeah, absolutely, if col's have
gone away to grazing, it's certainly not going to be
a practical option. So it's certainly not going to be
for everybody. But it's an interesting, you know, an interesting

(16:44):
theory and an interesting topic and you know, something that
a lot of people have wondered about for you know,
for quite a while. Is this a way that we
can reduce some of the issues around tea seal that
can happen at the time of dry off. So but yeah,
one hundred percent degree. For a lot of people, it's
not going to be in any way practical, but for

(17:07):
some people it may be. And it might be that
it's practical for a particular group of cows. So in
particular your older cows, So one of the options that
you have is if they are eligible for dry cow
antibiotic therapy, that they're getting antibiotics at the time of
normal dryoff and then four weeks later getting some teet
seal which is going to protect them around the time

(17:29):
of calving and in fact into the first thirty days
post calving as well. There's some really good data on
that and also in fact, one of the things that
was quite interesting is they've done some antimicrobial data on bismuth,
which is the active ingredient in teat seal, and there's
actually some antimicrobial properties in there which I actually wasn't

(17:52):
aware of.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
But the flip side is, like you said, if you can,
if you can reduce me status, it's probably worth looking at.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And that's what that's one of the
key things is if it is helping to reduce the
level of mass IDUs but also reduce the risk that
we see around some of the toxic masstitus issues around
dry off, you know, that may make a big difference.
And I guess you know it's going to be picking
your cows.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Choosing your farm.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
You know, not all farms are equal, Like you know,
getting back to that persistency thing. We have some farms
where persistency issues seem to be more of a problem
than persistency issues on other farms, and it's still trying
to figure out. Look, what are these reasons We just
we just don't know. There's still a lot of science
that's up in the air around it. We know the

(18:42):
product itself is effective, but in some respects we don't
really know why.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
And it's a busy time as well, draw off happening
on the farm crops transitioning talked about this of injury
last week, So all of a sudden, there's a busy
time of year as you get ready for the winter cycle.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Yeah, look at it it is. It's them to be fair.
May is now turning out to be probably our busiest.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
Month of the year.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
Whereas you know, Chief, we went back fifteen twenty years ago,
it was a time where you know, we could begin
to take a little bit of time off. But yes,
certainly not anymore. It's all hands on deck at the moment.
But I guess, look, that's a good thing. Once we
get into the middle of June, things we'll begin to
slow down a weet bit for us. And then you

(19:25):
and have a little bit of quieter time before we're
back into cabin again, because yeah, the seasons Seasons go by,
were almost almost at the end of May, and you'd wonder, chee,
where's twenty twenty six gone?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
The tame in idiots fits. It's busy, but people will
get back to you. What's a fine number?

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Look, give us a call at Riversdale two zero two
five six three six or Tian now on two four
nine seven zero three nine.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Thanks Morgan, always good to catch up.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Hey, good, Yeah, have a good weekend, Andy, take.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Care Morgan grain of in his You're listening to the
Muster up next with Sheelle What and the Country Crossover

(20:16):
Michelle What joins us for the Country Crossover. Good afternoon,
Michelle van Halen?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Why not?

Speaker 8 (20:22):
I love van Halen. That song just makes me so happy.
And the glam rock days, I wish they would come back,
the best days of.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Rocky van Halen, my old teutor and Wellington, told the
story about he was driving around his old Telstar one
day he just interviewed Eddie van Halen and he asked
we could go for a tour around Wellington, and so
he goes, yeah, I got to take Eddie van Halen.
I took Eddie van Halen around Wellington for ninety minutes
on the Telstar.

Speaker 8 (20:46):
That would have been an experience. And those guys, I
love that band to be honest, I said, eighties glam rock.
You can't really go wrong those days. You know where
they used to dress up and the whole thing was
very flambuoyant and they had personality by thinking of Cass
as well with their makeup and stuff. Motley kra you
do that, yeah, Motley krip Man. Stories to tell, haven't they.

(21:07):
There's a lot of stories that Have you watched that
show on I think it was on Netflix about the
sort of like a drama doctor.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Now The Deress. No, I haven't. No, it's very very good.

Speaker 8 (21:15):
I'd recommend it, very well done.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Very big positive.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Starting straight off, Graham Butcher emailed me this morning for
a scene to say make to say, have you seen
this wall sailed from yesterday? And I have seen this sale.
This is just great news as well. Up thirty eight
percent thirty eight cents sorry, one hundred percent selling rate
and basically the wall price now is getting into the
six backs for clean This is great.

Speaker 8 (21:39):
Oh, it's amazing news. Isn't it very positive news for
war after what's been quite a few tough years. I
think I don't want to try and guess how many
years it's been.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I'd say decades.

Speaker 8 (21:49):
It's been a long time, and it's nice to see
some positives out there. It'll be interesting to find out
what's driving this demand. And you and I were going
across some reasons about maybe it's lest sheep the world,
so therefore, you know, obviously supply demand. I didn't study economics,
but that's basically one of the basic things. Isn't it
supply versus demand? And who's actually buying it?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
And why?

Speaker 8 (22:10):
Because it's really interesting that that price is shot up.
But hey, we'll take it as a positive.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, you think about China coming back into the equation
a bit more of this free trade agreement with India
may have had something to do with it, but a look,
if it's all about the positives for the industry, then
we just claim it. Oh.

Speaker 8 (22:24):
Absolutely, You've just got to ride that positive wave. Well,
it lasts, right, and there's so many cool inventions coming
out with War as well. I was reading the other
day that a company has launched the world's first wall
based color for three D printing filament, and of course
there's lots of other really cool things bandages, all sorts
of stuff that's coming out of strong Woo and Marino
wall out there, so natural products. I think people are

(22:45):
turning back and towards sustainability and being able to have
those that old world feeling. In fact, I was reading
an article the other day about how gen z typically
now want to go back to an easier time, some
of them, and you talk to some of those young
con generations and that's what they speak about. And I
think part of that too is having sustainable clothing and
going back to what lasts and what washes up well

(23:07):
and what is natural.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know, the biggest dirony I'm finding at the moment.
What people were wearing in nineteen ninety one is being hip.
Is exactly what they're wearing in twenty twenty six, New balancers,
Barkers and a wooly jersey.

Speaker 8 (23:19):
Oh absolutely, I wasn't allowed barkers. They're very expensive. I
don't know how they how much they are now IDI,
but I know when I was at school they are
like forty dollars track pants, which doesn't sound that expensive,
but they were for track pants back then when you
used to buy your track pants from helen Stein's for
I don't know, ten bucks a peer forty dollars per
track pants to ride the horse and as if going
a little bit far. But yeah, it's interesting talking to

(23:43):
the younger generation here about how cool they think the
nineties were and the clothing that we had. And we
did have some cool clothing. I've probably got some of
it still hanging up somewhere.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Or the track pants you wore from helen Stein's air
Pistale if you weren't able to afford Barkers and loge
boots for all the big rage anyway, you can have that.
Basketball boots were just the normal ones. Oh jeez, you
think back there, it's a hard case heera. And of
course we're in the uglies and you had the jumper
over the top and you had the collar up.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
Oh I used to have the ugly Canterbury shorts as
well as the top. Sand I was super super cool.
But talking about going back in time, the close of
the Rugby Club, of course, celebrating one hundred and fifty years.
I think this weekend it's really exciting, massive for the
club and of course I've had a fair bit to
do with rugby down to South Tigo over my time,
with my brother playing for many years. My dad was

(24:30):
a manager of the colts team for a couple of
years as well, more than probably a couple of years,
and of course I played for Katungata so had quite
a bit to do with the rugby clubs back.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
In the day.

Speaker 8 (24:39):
And it's something that it sounds like carbon farming might
be affecting around rural areas because some of those smaller
clubs like Awaka and Clinton are sort of struggling for
members and they think it's down to that carbon farming
type thing and people not living in the rural areas anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
There's been a number of reasons as to why this
is occurring. I mean it's a different era now, different generation,
with a lot more options on the table as as
to what they want to do on the weekends.

Speaker 8 (25:06):
Oh absolutely, there's so many choices for sport now. But
you know, the old rugby club going down. You'll be
like me and you go down to the rugby club
at two o'clock to watch the b's game usually and
in the prems game would be on after that and
everyone would go into the club afterwards. Some of our
club games that we had, we had like our I
guess sister clubs we called them when I was playing
for the women's teams, and we put on big meals

(25:28):
each time we played either of those, and it was
just a great atmosphere to meet people, have fun and
just have a really good time and socialize.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Speaking of rugby, the Highlanders against the Chiefs, can.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
They do it?

Speaker 8 (25:40):
Oh, that's a big question, and it would be a
big upset for the Chiefs, wouldn't it. Not so much
for the Highlanders, because I think they're pretty much done,
aren't they. But you never know where the Highlanders they
might beat the Chiefs. The Chiefs might underestimate them and
this might be the game. Be nice to see them
have a win on the board, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, they've got to win last week. Yeah, there was
a second half was a hard watch.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
It was, especially when you saw the score in the
first half and you thought, oh yeah, and then it
just it seems to have been the tale of this season.
I think so far these games it's pretty much followed
the same pattern. But you never know what the Chiefs,
You just never know what the hond is they could
pull one out of the hat.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
But you speak of Jamie McKay, a finalist in the
Pins Awards, he is.

Speaker 8 (26:20):
He's a finalist in the agg Communicator of the Year
alongside Dom George, who you may remember previously was a
producer for Jamie. So the Apprentice, as Jamie Fonley calls him.
And Hamish Marsh of course yeah, was in the Trade Envoy,
Special Trade Envoy and agg arable Farmer from up in Canterbury.
So it could be really tight competition. It's going to

(26:42):
be a fun night up. There's some amazing speakers going
along to this conference as well, so I'm really looking
forward to it. When is it twenty third, twenty fourth
of Jones after field Days?

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Well you enjoy that, hey, we'll carry on, Michelle, enjoy
the weekend. Go the Landers, Go the Landers, Well, Mishall
and the country Crossover. This is the muster on Hockinee.
You we're away to Brisbane next News Dog ZBB Sports.
Jason Pine's over there for Magic crownd so we'll talk
about of.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Cobe head of the weekend. Jason Pine out of News Talk,
ZEBB Sport.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
You can hear piney on ZEBB between twelve and three
on the weekends and he catches up from Magic Crown
for the NRL over in Brisbane.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Piney Good afternoon.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Brisbane is a great city as far as location, as
far as accessibility to Stadia and infrastructure.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
It's got everything going for it.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
It is a terrific city, Andy, and it's great to
chat to your from Brisbane for well ahead of Magic
Round which gets underway tonight. Of course, looking forward to
the Warriors against the Broncos. That is going to absolutely
go off on Sunday afternoon here in Brisbane four o'clock
and then six o'clock over there. Look, I think a
lot of people I've talked to already over here say
that is the game of the round. And they reckon

(28:06):
At sun Corp, which holds what a tick over fifty
two thousand, they reckon it'll be about half and half
as far as supporters are concerned, which is incredible really
when you think that, you know, we're here on Bronco's ground.
Really it's it's you know, it's it's the you know,
the it's their home, you know. But there are as

(28:26):
many Warriors fans hitting town. I think there's any other
recu Latue team. The number of Warriors jerseys that I've
seen in my short time here is just incredible. So yeah,
you can't wait for Sunday afternoon of what happens at
Suncorp Stadium.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Back in two thousand and three, I went to a
m Z stadium there, but I didn't ever worry as top.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
I had my stags. Top and a few of the
locals will stuck me as a trader. But that's another story.
But just Warriors fans Kiwi's on the Gold Coast. It's
it's a team that is very very well supported.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
They've got a pop up shop, they're just outside the
stadium to I believe, Yeah they.

Speaker 7 (28:56):
Do, Yeah they do. And look, I think you know
you're often here that when when the Warriors play in Australia,
they are the most supported away team over here. That
you know that they you know, consistently draw massive crowds
for you know, for for away games. So I'm just
crossing the road here and you don't want to I
don't want to die. No, I don't want to be

(29:19):
run down in the middle of a live cross. But
you look, it's it's something about the Warrior is that
people say with everybody's favorite other team, you know, but
they also just have a huge following of you know,
of expat Kigwe's and as you know, there are a
lot of a lot of expants living on the Gold Coast,
living in Queensland, living in Brisbane, you know, maybe up

(29:40):
on the Sunshine Coast.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
And.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
Honestly, the numbers that have traveled as well, the plane
I took from Wellington yesterday to Brisbane would have been
ninety five percent Warriors fans, all in their colors, already
ready for a massive weekend. So yeah, I just think
it's going to be an influx of of Warriors been
in particular here across the weekend, and not just for

(30:04):
the game on Sunday. But I think they'll they'll they'll
soak at all and they'll they'll be a part of
the entire weekend, which is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Is it too big a conclusion to jump toos that
are Worriors perhaps, and looking at their premiership window at
the moment, I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
I mean it's look, you don't you don't win the
you don't win the conference, we know in May, but
look they you know, they've I don't know something of
the Warriors, I guess have struggled with in the past
is consistency and they know that. You know, they they
put they put runs together and then they lose a
couple of games or whatever it might be. But I
just think they've got the raw materials at the moment

(30:40):
Andy to really make a run at this. You know,
we all know about the Luke Metcalf situation which has
been which is broken in the last couple of days,
and that he'll be leaving at the end of the season.
To how do they negotiate that. I mean, we don't
need to worry about looking ahead the next year yet,
but what does Luke bekaf do in terms of the
what role he plays in the Warriors in twenty twenty six?

(31:00):
How do they best utilize him for that? But look,
I just think there's a lot of great, you know,
moving parts in this team at the moment. You look
at a guy like Jackson Ford, who is playing sensational
rugby league at the moment. You know, James Fisher Harris
with him in the front row, and then you've got
Tenor Boyd and Chanelle Harris, Tavita orj twoy Vasishek with
a got a new lease on life. Alafiana cant Carera.

(31:23):
This new winger that they've picked up from the Gold
Coast is just everywhere you look. Class and quality in
the Warriors at the moment, and I just think it
all as well for a really strong run at the
back end of this season.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Pony ob speaking to you for a couple of years
now on the slot, and I reckon, at the moment
this is the most well, actually it's listening to you speak.
Its like if you're a was fan, you feel like
running through a brick.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Wall because all of a sudden the stars are starting
to align. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:48):
Well, I'm sure that Andrew Webster has the team feelings
that way because he know's a master motivator as we know.
And I think, look, Warriors fans are eternally optimistic, but
let's not been around the bush.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Andy.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
It's been thirty one years now and they've never won
a Grand Final. You know, I've been there a couple
of times and the catch cry of this is our
year has been used over and over and over again,
and it's never been our year, has it? The Warriors
have not won the NRL Premiership, So look, a lot
of water has to fly under the bridge before a

(32:22):
list and silverware at the end of the season. You
know that it's an awfully long way away, But if
you're a Warriors fan at the moment, I think you've
got every right to feel optimistic about what the next
couple of months might hold.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Regatting the Luke Metcalf situation, do you think this is
a case of the player, but the player been trying
to be bigger than the team.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Does that come into it such a difficult one?

Speaker 7 (32:45):
I mean, Luke Metcalf wants to play rugby league, you know,
I mean like every player does, and his injuries have
kept him out of the seven jersey or since he
had that terrific start of the season last year and
his loss was a you know what was a massive
loss for the Warriors, and I think everybody was so
looking forward to and coming back into the side this season,

(33:06):
and Tanner Boyd was kind of seen as a bit
of a safe pair of hands until Luke Metcalf got back. Now,
what Tanner Boyd's done is play really really well and
made it difficult, in fact impossible for Andrew Wess that
have take that seven jumper off. He said to Luke Metcaff. Okay, well,
Tann's our seven, so why aren't you playing the six
juesday which he has a lot of times in the past.

(33:26):
But for some reason, Luke Metcalf I think, has just
decided that he's a seven and a seven only and
if the seven jumper is occupied at the Warriors, then
he'll need to go elsewhere. And obviously he's got a
big money move for the Dragons. But it does rape
the question andy of you know, what contracts are actually worth,
because if you can break a contract simply because you're

(33:48):
not getting game time, then what sort of precedent does
that set, you know. I just think it's a pretty
sorry state of affairs. I would have hoped, and I
don't know Luke Betcaff at all, but I would I
hope that he would have perhaps taken it upon himself
to earn his way back into the side to play
in the sixth jumper if that was what was required
at the moment. And then who knows, Tanner Boy could
get injured, you know, and he might have to play seven.

(34:09):
So yeah, just a bit of a sorry set of
circumstances really, And what I hope is that Luke Metcarp
hasn't turned on by Warriors fans. I get the feeling that,
you know, they're not going to take too kindly too,
as you say, a player looking like he is bigger
than the club. You know, he just wants to play
rugby league. But I know there's a lot more to
it than that.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Ivan Clary residing from the Penrith Panthers, but not until
the end of next season. And depending on who you
speak to, piety the Panthers are rebuilding nicely. If there's
such a thing for them that they're a very successful
team over the past seven or eight seasons, and all
of a sudden it's game on for Ivan Clary as
to what he does next.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
So perhaps Nathan what a coach, you know, what a coach?

Speaker 7 (34:50):
Andy, And you think about it. You know, he was
the coach when the Warriors last made the Grand Final
in twenty eleven. It was obvious back then that he
was you know, he was a very very stute rugby
league mind. And his time at Penrith has just been
glittering ethnic you know what I mean, What a what
a tenure, what a what a dynasty to oversee for

(35:10):
Ivan Cleary and goodness and he knows. You know, you
wouldn't want to be the guy following them, would you?
Got some But you know what he does next. I
think he's on record of saying he doesn't want to
coach another NRL club. Look, he might well end up
coaching Australia or coaching New Zealand, or he might be
in charge of an Origin team. Who knows. But yeah,
but one of the great, one of the great rugby

(35:31):
league coaches of the modern era.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Just quickly to wrap up Poney the A League, the
Phoenix Woman. They're playing Melbourne City in the final tomorrow night.
There's a great opportunity here for history.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
Yeah massive, what a what a? That's exactly it. And
you know history beckons for this team. They've already made
history by making the Grand Final. No New Zealand team
men or women have ever done that, you know, off
the back of a raucous and riveton game last weekend,
a potty to a park. They're a Melbourne tomorrow take
on Melbourne City. Look, they won't be favorite, but history,

(36:04):
as we know, is littered with Grand finals where underdogs
do sensational things. So look, I can't wait to watch
that from over the side of the ditch. I'll try
and find it. Yeah, on the screen in Queensland showing
in the middle of magic ground which we lack.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
You're good luck, poney, will let you carry on up
the wires.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
I'm the wise ending, so you mate.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Jason Pine and new Stig ZB Sports Jacob Coughlin, you've
heard it here first going put twenty backs on the
wires for the premiership. There have said it. Tom O'Brien's
up next to wrap up. Welcome back to the muster.

(36:48):
Tom O'Brien, Our Garston correspondent wraps up the week here.

Speaker 9 (36:52):
Good afternoon time, Good afternoon Andy.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Up in northern Southland. Has been pretty cold in the mornings.
You guys are getting these frosts.

Speaker 9 (37:01):
We sure, ah, yes that I got up this morning
and yeah we were around minus two, so yeah, she
was a chilly one all right. Crank the car up
and crank the heater up and started the icing the
windscreen before heading up to Quintown this morning.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
So are you having a run of frost at the moment?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Was as a one off for you guys are actually
getting a traditional mate with our winter ban in the
such I.

Speaker 9 (37:23):
Wouldn't that to one. I've had a couple of decent frosts,
but you know it's still early days, yes, and it
looks like we've got a pretty settled with it pat
at the moment, so certainly expecting more frosts, you know,
for the next few days at least anyway, But you
know what super seeds that of course are these beautiful

(37:44):
bluebird sunny days. So in fact, Andy, I was sitting
in my kitching yesterday and my single and shorts eating
fresh walnuts off the tree that I've collected outside and
while falling through resource consents advocation processes. So there you go.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I mean, life's teach you when you can do that, right, Well,
that's all about living the dream, isn't it. Well how's
queens Town at the moment? As it being busy, I
suppose there's no off season now for the resort.

Speaker 9 (38:13):
Look, I mean, you know as well as I do that.
I try all a lot of us, especially from down south,
and we come to Queenstown. We pretty much avoid sutral
Queenstown because you know, it's just it's just not really
the place that it used to be for South Enderson, Otargo.
So I suppose, yeah, it's just pretty buggy place. And

(38:34):
although it's a very beautiful place, it's pretty big deck in,
its expensive and busy, and it's just yeah, I mean,
it's got a good vibe and all the rest of it.
But I spend most of my time out in the
Frankedon area, actually on my way to my daughters. She's
got like a prize giving and graduation prize giving ceremony
this morning, So very much looking forward to going. And

(38:55):
I'm seeing that kids do very well. But yeah, yeah, look,
you know, it's not far from me to come up
to here. It's only only set of a forty five drive.
So I love dipping in kind of doing you know,
I'll do it at grocery shopping. And I've been on
the computer this morning, and then I'll get the hell
out of it. And I'm very very happy to go

(39:16):
back to the little sleepy hollow of Garthen.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
How long has it taking you to get from Frankdon
into the middle of town? Are you avoiding it this time?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (39:23):
Look, I just don't even go there, mate, I've got
no real reason to. Yeah, I mean, it's it's almost
like a completely different area, isn't it. You know, it's
squint down, it's it's very much tourists of orientated, and
bar and restaurants orientated. And there's those sort of chain
shops in there. You know, they're either tomes and all
that sort of car on, and none of that really
sort of excites me too much.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, that's the farmer way of doing shopping, I suppose.
But you're doing something pretty cool this weekend. The well,
the New Zealand stone stone skimming champs are on.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
That's correct, The first and all real first ever in
New Zealand stone Skimming Championships are on this weekend at
Lake Hawea. So Jeff ross Is very kindly invited me
up to that. So I've got a be ip ticket
in the stands, although I'm not sure whether he's going
to step to me up here. I think I'm not
sure if he's like saying, you understand Rightio now it's

(40:17):
Tom O'Brien send a chance to arm so to speak,
at skimming a stone across the beautiful, pristine blackwater of
the Lake Harwea. So I don't know, I think i'd
need it, but I'm a bit nervous, to be honest,
if that is going to be the case, because it's
been a long time since I've limbered up, and you know,
it's going to cricket ball or saying a tennis record

(40:39):
or even pitch to softball, and so I'm a bit
nervous to be there.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
So how many people we have entered as such?

Speaker 7 (40:47):
Do you need to know that?

Speaker 9 (40:48):
I mean I had a look online yesterday and it
looks like there was about one hundred people are who
were going at this stage. But look, I'm quite interested,
and not only the Stone Skimming Championships, but you know,
sort of starting to get to know Jeff a little bit.
You know, he's a he's a very interesting character, Jeff.
You know, I purchased like Kiwei station, I don't know,

(41:09):
probably five six years ago. I was on country calendar,
and you know, he's got some interesting regenerative farm practices
going on there. He's very very unconventional, you know, he
reads a few cages and ruffles a few getters, but
unattainably so you know, he's a highly experienced entrepreneur who
is not afraid of burning hims differently. And yeah, I've

(41:33):
been doing a little bit of a little bit of
work with Yef and I'm quite interesting spending a bit
more time with him after all of the shananigans of
the Stone Skimming just to just to sort of, I guess,
pick his brain a little bit more about how how
he does what he does and why he does what
he does. But suffice to say, the winners of the
New Zealand Championships will then go on to Scotland for

(41:56):
the World Stone Skimming Championships.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Time O'Brien and good luck at the Stone Skimming champs
This weekend we look forward to an update laugh out
loud with a proud because life on the land can
be a laughing matter. Brought to us by sheer Well
Data working to help the livestock farmer.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
What does garlic do when it gets hot? It takes
his clothes off, dad joke.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Cent sure to finish up the muster for the week
the best of Tomorrow morning of five am. The podcast
is going up shortly. I'm Andy Muir. The show is
brought to you by Peter's Genetics. Up the wires at
the bars. If you're playing sport this weekend, have a blinder,
enjoy the weekend.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
See you Monday.
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