July 15, 2026 • 48 mins
Andy Muir talks to Matt McRae, Joseph Mooney, Kathryn McRae, Julie Edwards, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What that was is cute.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Got into run excellent.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on HOKANII Andy
Mure here until two o'clock. The show's brought to you
by Peter's Genetics. Thanks for your company. On an overcast
afternoon hereing Gore currently at nine degrees. We'll look at
the weather shortly. But it's been a bit going on
in the past twenty four hours, especially regaining the breefly
situation H five N one and of course that's strain
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washed up on Patoni Beach. So in the resting the
commentary around that, one of the first things that came
out hearing on social media was hopefully I can keep
eating fried chicken. So yeah, anyway, bigger issues to worry
about them. But nonetheless, that's the state of play there
in England, the ound of the World Cup. I think
it's fair to say they were missimerized and our Harry
(00:53):
Kane was Kane. Anyway, two one to Argentina. They're onto
the big Dance to play Spain England in the third
place playoff, which nobody wants to play. But it's all
about the money, right playing France, that'll be a good game.
As well, so nonetheless something to ponder over the weekend.
The music today is nineteen ninety four. This song here
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is called quite literally here Here we Go. And the
reason that's their opening song is because Matt McCrae of
Mocker Reader is getting us underway this afternoon with all
the ends.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Pokanui's five day forecast with twin farm teff from and
soft text. The proof is in the progeny teffrom dot
co dot inzad.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
How's that for a loose correlation for a Thursday where
the weather is going to be showers or Reesely's hearing
gord this afternoon and are high of ten Friday cloudy,
have breezey nor westerlyes eight and thirteen. That's a good
overnight low Saturday rain with breezy westles five and eleven.
Sunday showers are like Whistley's two and nine and Monday
sunny with calm variable wins zero and nine. So it
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temperatures to hand Clinton two point eight, Harriet four point
three Northern South and five point five Riverton seven point
four tier Our Sex today was six point two Oneton
four point nine at Woodland's six ma'mber Cray mackareita, like
I say, all the ymns getting us underway this afternoon,
followed up by Joseph Mooney, MP four Southland looking at
(02:27):
poles and as well as Breethly situation. What's the latest there,
but as well the MPC. We asked Joseph Mooney, you're
a Targo but you're in you're electric Southland, So what
side of the fence that you're supporting. Kethere McCrae out
out of beef for Air New Zealand. Well, she was
originally out of Mockata. I was going to put that
in there, just force to have it when you're mentioning
(02:49):
a McCrae talk about being a scientist regarding genetics. Julie
Edwards off Sheerwere UK. Now we catch up with Alan
McCleary on a regular basis. Now Julie's with the Campany
based over in England and we caught up recently to
have a good shed as well. And Nasan burdon our
residence sporting Guru the end of the line for England.
(03:09):
It is another Stags pre season gets under way tomorrow
at Riverton. Dave Morrison at PGG writes and gives us
a rundown on the stock stale report out of Charlton.
Then we crank into it with all the ens Matacray.
This is the muster Room til two o'clock thanks to
peterston Eddix seven after one.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
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branches in Lawnville, Gore, Cromwell, Milton, and Ranfurly. Drop by
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Speaker 3 (03:42):
Matt McCrae farms at Macartha and joins us this afternoon.
Good afternoon, Matt, Any Camosi. Here comes a hot stepper
that seems to be pretty much a catch cry for
your forty teams at the moment.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
The afternoon, Andy, Yeah, you won't catch me step in
two much. I'm just in.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
These days.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But yeah, they're certainly going a ride at the moment
at the dosin this end of the season, which is good.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
How long since the senior team lost a game? Was
it two and a half years or something?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I heard?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, I don't want to drink them, to be fair,
but it is something like that. Yeah, I've got a
filly good street going at the moment. So they've been
working pretty hard to maintain it. They'll be playing a
pretty good outfit in Riverton this weekend. Yeah, no doubt
they'll be training.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Had hell's everything. Looking on the ranch, it sounds as
though it's a little bit deep.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, we've got twenty miles of rain overnights just to
have to draw it out away bit yesterday. So yeah,
winters being winter, which is quite good. Yeah, they're just
going through the motions with a fea bit on crop
at the moment. We've got funs and singles and a
few kettles still on and all of it's ship grows
and the rest now that the head over the autumn
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as well, fear bit of electric fencing. But it's yeah,
good to be have the wet leathers on after I've
seen to avoid a bit of the ship that comes
through last week.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, you have a lot of rainfall on there normally. Anyway,
where would you say you are? Would you be on
power where where it traditionally is, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I'd say so. I haven't actually looked in comparison to
the last few years, but I just see we've ticked
over nine hundred mills for the year with that, but
we've got overnight. Yeah, we're getting we get a fish here,
but it's we're well set up for it, and and
yeah it covers a lot and good and the stock
pretty good, their skin really well as always. So yeah,
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we just we get the hoggits and and another ten
days or so and get them through. It'll be interesting
to see where they are that they're certainly looking a
picture at the moment.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Crop utilizations where you want it to be.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, you always wasted to weave it in the
in the wet that we're kind of like I've started
dirt or two day shifting some of the stuff on
the this year and just they just seem to be
a bit more settled and they'd leave a bit behind
at the gon. Yeah, the utilization's been good. The swede
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crops are being fantastic this year as well. They'd probably
be around they're aiding ton at a guess the way
they're eating. So I'm pretty happy with that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You've been over and Aussie recently in Adelaide the lam
Mix conference. It was a massive deal to it was
like fourteen hundred people turned up.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, so I'm shut over there with decent men last
week and yeah, there's fourteen hundred people there over the
three days. I think there's twelve hundred at the gala
dinner on the final night, and yeah, people from all
over the world, but yeah, mainly Aussies as you'd expect,
but never been hadlaid before. But it's not a bad
place and certainly a bit warmer than what it was
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at home. And yeah, the conference was just all around sheep,
I guess in Australian sheep industry in particular. I learned
away bit around the Aussies and there's a few things
can bring home, but certainly very thought provoking and there's
a lot of innovation and curse are happening that we
can cheer across the industry here too.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No doubt a trip to the Barossa Valley was thrown
in there as well.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
No I didn't I come home and the day of
the field tours and spend a day catching up on
a bit of work doing school holidays. But yeah, there's
a few that we're heading that way or the before
or after the conference, but it's just timing of it
and a busy time of the year as well, so
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trying to make use some the days over school holidays
fair cooler.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
They weren't met So what was the major issues over there?
Is a very similar to Kiwi farmers and what we're
having to tolerate at the moment or prices are pretty buoyant,
but other factors externally just coming into play.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, they are very similar. I was so not fear like. Obviously,
they kill thems a lot heavier and the twenty five
low average plus wait ground wait bracket, and they also
have the wall income as well, a lot of Marino
influence coming through, so they've got that income stream as well.
(08:16):
The probably what surprised me the most is there's a
fair bit of containment. Containment feeding so the like when
they run out of feed, they feed groin and but
some pieces to the lands before they for a couple
months before they go to the works. Yeah, there's some
interesting things. They're investing a lot on R and D
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and there's a few things that we can probably take
back here or go on pair of sorts and technology
that that will go global, which is pretty cool to see.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
What about wall what's happening in the space over there
in Australia.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
So to speak.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yes, obviously the there's a fear bit of wall tech
they've been investing in for a while now. There's a
probably a couple of sons that caught my interests as
a bit of technology that they were don't correct me
on the numbers, but it's something like taking twenty three
micron wall down to twenty using this machine, and I
inquired around if I could take strong wall down to
(09:16):
twenty as well, but obviously I haven't had as much
as the questioning and a the this ye was to
go and look into it, but be pretty course they did.
And the other bit was there's a brief discussion on
the bio harvesting of wool and injecting what I believe
is a corn extract or something similar, And again they're
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pretty life on the details because it's still in development,
but yeah, injecting that into the sheep, which causes a
wall break, and ten to fourteen days later they can
come in and effectively pull the wall off the sheep
or use a developing like a big vacuum cleaner to
pull it off, and then AI to class wall and
(10:01):
their bodocks to sort it in into your fedges. Like
just pretty outrageous things to be thinking of in terms
of what we're doing from here. But it's call that
those people out there looking at alternatives and and what
possibly could be done.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So you're effectively plucking a live sheep.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, yep, yeah, and it's I think the ten to
fourteen days is so the wall grows out enough that
it's pretty much at the same length as what it
would be if sure it so, and you could leave
it longer, longer, like four weeks if you wanted a covercam.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, there's a lot of cool technology there that they're
looking at, but obviously it would have to take a
lot of the boxes and get in, but would be
a game changer for for some people in the industry.
And like when you look at the way shedding's gone
and taken off, like it could be a will potentially
be an alternative.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You also mentioned before briefly as well, affair about AI
and wall pressing.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, so that was the they're going to use the
AI to class the wall off, this machine that class
it into your microns or grades, and then the robotics
to press it press it into bows. I guess you
would take away that in your labor aspect of the
(11:33):
sharing as well. So it's your mate, so who knows,
you may have a truck turn up and instead of
having a wallshed, give curtain side of truck turn up
and all your wall harvesting that way, and all.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
These robots that get rolled into your wall sheed for
an afternoon.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I doubt it's the clond of technology
that you'll deserve sitting around yourself. But who knows. Obviously,
spending a fair bit of money on R and A
in comparison to what we are on the wall space,
I guess it's just one of the many things that
they're looking at, but it's certainly something that put more
attention anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Plenty going on, mate, We'll let you carry on all
the best of your windom follows over the weekend too.
It's a hell of a street you've got going.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I appreciate it. Cheers any.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Matt McCrae of Mocareda AI and the woolshed anywhere and everywhere. Coincidentally,
any commosy, here comes a hot stepper the same today
as nineteen ninety four. Joseph Mooney is up next to
in Pever, Southland. You're listening to the Muster.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Welcome back to the Muster. Joseph Mooney is in Pever
Southland and joins us this afternoon. How thing's been has
been pretty hectic over the past few weeks, I'd imagine.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, I'm looking at some blue skys right now, which
is pretty awesome. But you had been a hectic a
few weeks alright. So we had three weeks speak to
Beck in Parliament and I spent exactly one night at
home on each of those weeks. For the last two
at least, it was just the rest of the time
was stuck in parliament for various different reasons, primarily but
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it's good. Good to be back in the home region.
Now see some blue skies.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Do you have direct flights from Queenstown to Wellington on
imagine years.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
No, He as a short answer that it's either flying
by Christus or Auckland or Delaven.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Why can't we get that sorted out? Why can we
sort out regional flights for this country?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Look, we used to have better regional flights, but for
a number of reasons in New Zealand produced those. They
have a rainy of different reasons. One is exchange in demand.
Another as they had engine problems with some of the aircraft,
which I think had been recently resolved. Didn't. I think
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it invests as much as some other airlines did during
the COVID sort of lockdown period when the whole world
was pretty uncertain, and so that neither down the wideingness
for new aircraft. And then of course the you know,
the fuel restrictions it came about as a result of
the war in the Middle East. So there's sort of
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a number of a range of different reasons that they
say why they have reduced regional flights across the country.
But look, it is a films because we forgot to
a long, thin country. We're heavily reliant on being to
get around, you know, and by ear as well as
on road.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Here's hoping one day we see commons ins around that.
Joseph now interesting in politics over the past couple of
days with Paul Henry throwing his head into the ring
with act that's some time of Michael Laws and Tane
Randall amongst others, but a very hope high profile people
to be fair, But Paul Henry interesting saying that he
fears for a left wing government, but he doesn't hold
a lot of trust in Christopher accent as well as
(15:03):
to what he's doing as Prime Minister.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Oh, the keep around the toiler to have their perspective
and their point of view obviously right, and look got
on for throwing it hat in the ring, and got
on for anyone throwing hit in the ring. It's a
it is a pretty dusty, bloody ring. Some stuff. It's
trying to speak but looking through my hat in the
ring in twenty twenty because I was you want to
do my bit to try and d the need on
the right directions for my kids and my grandkids. Well,
(15:29):
if and when that happens, so you know, anyone who's
passionate about the country and wants to try over the
right direction and say good on them for giving the mudge.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
There's a frustration around these polls being in the late
twenties not a good look.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
We obviously want those to be high, but you know,
it's I have to acknowledge that it has been a
you know, it's been it's been tough for years, right.
We had the first COVID and then we've had you know, tariffs,
and then we've had the war in the Middle East,
and we had the most unstable geopolitical era since the
(16:07):
Second World War globally, and then we have massive technological
change on top of that, and so with worth that
comes a lot of uncertainty. It's it's expensive. You know,
though we've we've managed to get inflation on control, which
was you know, really signific because they was driving out
the cost of everything. Else, there's there's still that baseline
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higher costs that that's that inflationary period created, and any
you know later on top of that, just the impact
of fuel in the cost of goods for fuel, and
then the you know, the chips that have gone sutainy,
which impacts on trade and therefore the cost of goods.
It all makes things for just a challenging environment. And
(16:50):
you know, I can I can tell me understand why
some folks can feel a bit grumpy in which things
are better faster.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I'd say it's more than someday. Vulgure respect and the
prime mony surroundings for Christopher Lax and it's not good
optics at the moment.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, well, look, we we we just have to move
the very best we can. And you know, we've we've
done a huge amount of work as a government to
get this country back on track and you know, to
fix those basics so we can we can focus on
building for the future of this country. But you know,
it's like I appreciate that. You know, some folks definitely,
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you know, would like things to move faster and and
see solutions quicker. But it's something that we sing around
the world, governments around the world. There's just a there's
something in the horder at the moment that seems globally
and and but you know, the true test will be
what happens when in their ballot box.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
In bird flu, it's been it's finally come across to
the side of the ditch. I say finally, but not
in a good way. What's the latest, Joseph, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Well i've seen that these one bird that's been tested
was it at least? And it's something we've been keeping
on for the last couple of years because you know,
we're surrounded by countries that have had bird flu, including Antarctica,
and it's kind of been a miracle that New Zealand
hasn't had it to date. But it's not something we
(18:23):
want to have. But there's been a lot of work
being done to prepare for basically the inevitability of when
that did arrive in New Zealand, because we've got a
phenomenal number of birds. We're one of the most significant
sea life seabird countries and the planet. So I was
(18:43):
Needle was going to come here at some point, But
like I said, there's a lot of work has been
done to prepare for it. Doesn't mean that it's not
going to be easy. Aren't necessarily, but because it's a
it's a watching brief while we try to manage the
strain that has been identified here. Now, like I say,
it's probably not something as well known, but New New
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Zealanders has I think the most significant number of seabirds
on the planet, and you're about something like forty percent
of all seabed species come to this country. So they
travel right across the entire planet in some cases to
come here, which is quite incredible. But with that means
that we're hyper connected to the rest of the world
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and it is honestly incredible that we haven't had it hate.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
But now we do a good news story as well.
Dunedin Hospital Finally we're seeing progress there.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, that's awesome, and it's this government moved from talking
to action, you know, signed off the contract with the
last years to get the outpatient building under way and
yesterday the first put a structure still rising out of
their ground so people are able to see it visibly
rising to the air. Now it's going to gold up
(20:01):
to its full eleven stories, which is a great thing
for the region. That's important. Role of players are Tutiory
and Training Hospital for the Lower South.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Just finally, Joseph the South and Stags pre season against
the target and Murrow nail your colors to the wall.
What side do you want to target? South and for
the m PC And you can't sit on the wall
for this.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Come on, Oh, you put me in a very difficult position.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Because we're a politicising and used to it. We need
an answer. Don't say a draw. You can't do that.
Come on, who's gonna wait?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Are we running up on the other sideline? That's your.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You're just happy being the MP for Tower A right, No, I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Happy being the MP for South part of the.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Hey, good on to Joseph, you carry on noise, appreciate
your time.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He got mate, je.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
MP for South and Joseph Mooney. He just enjoys the
MPC for what it is and that's rugby gets underway
in a couple of weeks. Up next Katherine McCrae out
of Beef and Lamb New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
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I'm clever. Katherine McCrae joins us in the Beef and
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the artist is leased alone and nine Stories. Well, speaking
of stories, if you want to have a better line
there at the Smoker Room, I'm sure our next guest
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will be able to do that. Katherine McCrae, thanks for
joining us on the mustard. Now we spoke to your brother,
actually met earlier on in the hour. But you're a
scientist majoring in genetics. Must be a fascinating line of work.
Good afternoon, Good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
How's it going.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Yes see, I've been working in animal genetics for the
past decade or more so. Really good to be able
to do something that has practical application to my which
is growing up on a farm.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Genetics is just ever evolving. I mean we're seeing that
at the moment straight off the battle last year question,
there seems to be a lot of triplets being born
this year. Are we going to be ye able to
actually just have twin producing sheep in the future. Is
this a possibility or is it just pine the sky thinking.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
That's definitely something that farmers would love if we could
do that. Unfortunately, in terms of number of lambsborn the genetics,
the genetic component is there, but it's not really strong.
So what we see as we increase scanning percentage from
a genetics perspective, at least that also increases the number
of triplets. So unfortunately, not a straightforward answer, and probably
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things like nutrition play much more of a role than
genetics for that, although there is a small component.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Give people a little bit of a backstory about getting
into your role regarding genetics, Catherine, My.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
Backstory is one of those fortune and it being in
the right place, right time. Always loved genetics at school,
studied it at university, and then was a conversation with
a bank manager actually, as I was sort of home
from university. He asked what I wanted to do, and
when I said I was interested in having a more
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practical application, he introduced me to a stud breeder who
introduced me to some scientists at AGG Research and they
offered me a further post grad study and the rest
is history. So yeah, really loved combining what I've studied
at university with actually that practical on farm application.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You talk about genetics being ever evolving. Methane reduction has
been something that's been the focus over the past couple
of seasons. What's going to be the next big thing
in genetics.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Yeah, a group has done quite a bit in the
methaan reduction space. Some of the things that are coming up,
both in New Zealand and internationally are things like seed efficiency,
so how we can breed for animals that consume less
feed for their amount they grow. And then also which
is my main air of interest in terms of disease,
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so particularly with an ever changing climate, consumers asking less
inputs with the earth stock, what we're seeing is we
increasingly need animals that can actually cope with diseases better
they're parasites or pneumonia or facial exima or any of
those other diseases. And so a lot of my research
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is trying to figure out how we can breed for
animals that can cope with embedded genetically as well.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
We're in burdens. Interesting you bring that up cassine that
is a major problem on farms.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Yes, yeah, and genetics is definitely one of those tools
that is a tool in your toolbox. When we talk
about genetics, we talk about it being permanent and cumulative.
So if you're ram breeder, is breeding for reduced parasite
burdens through or increase parasite resistance, that is that going
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to be a great tool to have in your toolbox
long term and your you flock in particular.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Now the Lamb Mix conference, like we say, Matt talked
about it earlier in the hour, but your perspective being
all about genetics and the likes, what were some really
interesting insights that you got from it.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, it was great being over there, caught up with
a few Australian colleagues, which was really good. We don't
get a chance to do that too often. It was
interesting to compare what's happening in Australia with what's happening
in New Zealand, and there was definitely some parallels. Sheep genetics,
which is the Australian equivalent of beef and lamb genetics here,
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for example, started offering a tool where you can take
DNA samples from about twenty US in your flock or lambs,
and they can get processed and you can get an estimate.
You can kind of benchmark how your flock performs in
terms of breeding values. And so Beef and Lamb Genetics
over here has just launched their improof track at All
(26:03):
which does something similar using your RAM tags. So as
a commercial farmer, that's a way for you to have
a look at your use and your flock and actually
see how they compare on things like New Zealand maternal
worth compared to the national average. And so that then
helps you decide where you want to go in terms
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of RAM selection, which is incredibly useful. So they were
they had launched that and like I said, it's about
the same time as something similar was being launched over here.
But it was interesting to see how they were talking
about how it could be practically used on farm.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Would you say sheep genetics and New Zealand is on
a par with your Australian counterparts.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
A lot of the Australian stuff is focused on marinos,
but definitely I would say that the like in New
Zealand we've had for the last time thirty years, we've
had the Central progeny test has been helping with our
genetic evaluation being able to be cross breed, which is
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pretty impressive. So I think that our sheep genetics in
New Zealand is definitely held up to a high standard globally.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
So there's just a pleathor of things. I suppose it
comes under the genetic spanner. I think from your perspective,
it must be a fascinating subject and when you think
about science and what the possibilities are, and Matt talks
about it before the way that AI is coming to
the equation, what does that actually do for you guys
with AI being involved.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Yeah, it's definitely something that we are investigating is how
we can use AI tools both in terms of genetic
how we evaluate the animals, but also how we measure
them as well. We've got a number of things that
we measure that are currently done by I or by
feel things like body condition score or DAG score and
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other things traits like that, structural traits like feet and
so there's definitely a bit of work starting and how
we can take take them from being scored by human
to being scored using AI tools, which is pretty exciting.
So then from science perspective. What we just need is
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to be able to validate that. But it potentially means
that we can measure a lot more animals and have
standard measurements as well.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Maggot resistance shape. Is this a possibility?
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Well, I mentioned DAG score before, so in New Zealand
we measuring fly strike is a lot harder because you like,
from a genetics perspective, you have to measure animals when
there is a challenge, which we prefer not to do.
It's so, but what previous work has shown is that
fly strike is quite highly correlated with DAG score. So
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DAG score is one of those things that it's fairly
easy to measure. There's a I think it's one to
five scale from a breeder's perspective, and about forty to
forty five percent of the variation we see between animals
is due to genetics. So you can measure and select
your animals based on DAG score. You're going to make
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a quick progress and it's going to have an impact
on fly strike as well.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Plenty to ponder there, Catherine, thanks for your time on
the muster of this afternoon and genetics. There's a possibility,
there's a million possibilities out there. Keep up the great work.
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Cheers, thank you very much, No I know that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
And Katherine McCrae and the Beef of lamb Slude Clack
Beeflamenz dot com slash events to receive the e Diary
in your own box every Friday morning. Julie Edwards is
up next from Sheerwel UK before the end of the
year of Nathan Burden.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
You say.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
This is the muster on Hakanui ace of based the sign.
The theme today is nineteen ninety four as we head
over to the other side of the world to catch
up with Julie Edwards out of Sheerwell, UK. Now you
know the chance we do with Alan McCleary on a
monthly paces here on the muster Well we're catching up
with Julie now Sheerwell is a massive mess of company
based over in the UK and we're catching up with
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Julie just to see how the farming vibers over in
England at the moment. Julie, thanks for chatting on the muster.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Thanks Andy, great to join you. A great piece of
music as well that brings back good memories from me,
brings back a lot of good memories.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I think I was like nineteen when that song come
out For goodness sake, without reminiscing too much, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
Yeah, absolutely, I think we're about the same age.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Then, firstly, how's the farming mood over in the UK.
It sounds as though you've had a heat wave after
heat wave to contend with, and that's about talking about
your heat wave, milk Warmer.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
Absolutely, So this is our third heat wave of the year,
so we're only into early July and already, you know,
we've had temperatures of over thirty five degrees, which is
unheard of in the UK, and you know, had a
massive impact for the livestock and the arable sector. You know,
we I think what it has demonstrated is that moving
forward we are going to have to think about installing
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fans in our sheds. I think, you know, definitely planting
a more trees. Cucheade is so important. You know, we
alongside working for Shearwell, I also have a farm with
my husband, so we've got sucker caws and sheep and
pigs and you know, it's been hard to see how
they've struggled. You know, We've done our best to keep
everything cool. But yeah, unprecedented times. You know, we've gone
(31:45):
from cold, wet winter into very hot and you know,
certainly at the moment on our farm it's very burnt up.
The long term forecast looks like we're not going to
get any rain, probably any significant rain until the middle
of August, which I know, you know, for a lot
of people is fairly short term, but for us, it's
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had a significant impact. We've got wild fires as well.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Over a u K.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
At the moment, I think there's three that they're trying
to deal with. So, you know, changing times, I guess
environmentally and certainly making us think about how we farm
and what we need to do to prepare for the future.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, because you're hearing about the harvest coming up and
a lot of concerns around the fire risk as well.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, we're already seen on social media,
you know a number of farmers that have lost significant
acreages of wheat and barley, you know, and I think
that it's having an impact on the maize as well,
so you know, just for the maize crop, not enough water,
so the kernels well, you know, there's just nothing, there's
(32:48):
no moisture there. But Yeah, it's unprecedented, as I say,
and quite a concern. I think, you know, the animals,
you know, whether it's a dairy sector with the cows,
they're suffering from heat stress. We've had animals at home
that we've had to bring in, particularly younger crafts that
just can't cope with the heat. Yeah, and it's a
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summer like we've never known before, and I guess potentially
moving forward this could be the norm. So as a consequence,
we're going to plan, have to plan for the future
and put some significant changes in place.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
On the farm. So Haill's farmers seem to me at
the moment gerally, given the weather has been like that.
But on the other side as well, prices have been
pretty buoyant.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
You know, we've probably for several well certainly this is
the second year at least where we've seen some really
significantly good prices for lamb and for beef, you know,
whether it's whether it's ween lambs or finish lambs, and
the same with the cattle sector. The store prices and
the finished prices have been phenomenal. But having said that,
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that's where they should have been for some significant time.
And I think you know, there has been a disconnect
between what farmers have been paid historically and what you know,
in terms of the prices that we're seeing in the supermarket.
And I think perhaps sometimes you know, consumers don't recognize
their significance and the importance of the food that we're producing,
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you know, the whole the whole story around field or
fork to field to fork is so is so significant,
and I think, you know, we perhaps need to put
more emphasis on making people aware of how and where
their food is produced, you know, And it's not as
easy as just going into a supermarket and picking up
a product. It's making them think about actually how it's
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been produced and the value of that food, the nutritional value,
and the costs of production as well, because obviously, with
everything that's going on at the moment, you know, with
the blockades in the straits of hor Moos and fuel
and everything, input prices are rising, so prices have to
be good because you know, the knock on effect further
down the line is significant.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Now, Julie, we were talking off fear and it sounds
as over the UK is facing the same issues as
New Zealand. Whether it's real a connectivity or whatever, across
the board. There are a lot of similarities between the
two economies.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Oh absolutely. You know, quite often when I've listened to
you interviewing Allan historically, you know, I think we may
have different phrases for things, but actually the sentiment is
the same. And you know, I think that although you know,
different times of year, I think New Zealand farmers and
farmers in the UK will have the same challenges and
(35:26):
the same struggles, you know, whether as you just said,
you highlighted rural connectivity, you know, which is key. You know,
if you're farming in a fairly isolated area. You know,
we are totally reliant on having that connectivity available to us,
and that's an area where we are sadly lacking in
the UK at the moment, and there needs to be
some significant investments. But you know, I think farmers are resilient,
(35:51):
so they'll find a way, you know, certainly from sheer
our perspective. We produce products like our software. You know,
you can use it and work offline and then as
soon as you come back in to signal you can
it automatically updates. So yeah, we've got around that problem.
But it is a challenge that needs to be sorted
sooner rather than later.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Now you talk about sheer well, I like you say.
I talked to l on a regular basis about sheap tags,
kettle tags. But coming up to landing time, the heat
waves milk warmer talking to farmers on the show this week,
and they're having a lot of truplets in the US,
and all of a sudden it becomes pretty well realistic
and economical or worth it to put on the heat
wave milk warmer system as such.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
Absolutely, you know, So the heat wave I think, you know,
in terms of its price, it is pitched at a
really good price, and I think it's it's one of
those products that it's multi purpose, so you can use
it for rearing lambs, so you can rear up to
fifty lambs on it or thirty calves, and you know,
we use it on our farm at home, and you know,
in terms of production quite often, you know, if you're
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feeding bottle lambs, you may not finish quite the finish
that you'd want. But with a heat wave, when you're
rearing them on that, they automatically just help themselves. So
it's a bit like them going to their mums normally,
So they're drinking regularly and performance is exceptional. So we
see a lot of really good lambs and cars performing
(37:15):
really well on it, and we get really good feedback
from customers that are using it. And I think you know,
the thing to say about the heat wave is there's
really only two things. Once you've set it up, just
regularly check that there is water in the water bath
and that you clean it regularly like you would babies bottles,
because all the ways you know with milk, it can
it can get built up in there. So it's a
really straightforward product to.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Use something else that's relevant at the moment or coming
onto the market that's going to make life a lot
easier for farmers to the speedy tagger.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
Absolutely, So that's the product that I think, you know,
people have been waiting to arrive.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
So it's.
Speaker 8 (37:50):
It basically has a cartridge that it will hold a
strip of ten set tags, whether they're just visual or
eed tags, and you know, you put a strip of
ten in rather than to individually load each individual tag.
This makes things a lot quicker. So you know, if
you're slaughter, if you're tagging slaughter lambs or whatever, you
can just go down through the line tag everything and
(38:11):
it's a job it probably half the time. So yeah,
very very popular with people. You know, it's lightweight and
it's effortless really in terms of how people will use it,
and you can use it if you're left or right
handed as well. So it also comes with five cartridges,
so you know you can sit in the evening and
(38:33):
just load them and it makes life very easy for everybody.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Absolutely, Now we'll talk about this a ellum a couple
of weeks, Julie, have we a bitter leave it there.
Thank you very much for catching up us. We're going
to catch up with you on a regular basis as
well on the Master and I'll be honest, I've had
to record this a little bit earlier, so you'll be
either celebrating or commiserating in England winneror on England lost.
Speaker 8 (38:53):
I'm an optimist, Andy, and I'm you know, England's going
to do it.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
It's going to bring it home, that's coming home.
Speaker 8 (38:59):
But yeah, great to talk.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
To you, Julie Edwards out of Sheerwell, UK. Great to
catch up with the team as we do with Alan McCleary.
Coincidentally as well, recorded earlier before England lost in the
semi final to Argentina. Nonetheless, we're talking about that next
with our resident sporting gury, Nathan Burden. Welcome back to
(39:37):
the muster. Nathan Burden is our resident sporting guru. Good afternoon, Nathan.
Just for all those English football supporters out there, dream
things can only get better. Yeah it was.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
It was a heck of a game this morning, wasn't it.
And unfortunately English hearts broken. Unfortunately or fortunately depinding I
suppose on what and what what camp you're in.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
But I guess it.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
It sets up a sets up a MESSI final, doesn't it.
Argentina resuspay.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
They just crave success so badly. Nineteen sixty six was
a very long time ago, and football is a national
sport over there. It's an obsession, it's fair to say
for a lot of people. And the fact is they
just can't get over the line that they're thereabouts, whether
it's in the World Cup or the euro Championships. They
get just about to the summit, but about ten I
(40:26):
don't know, ten meters from the top, the weather caves in.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Yeah, and I guess we could have some empathy and
heading into that twenty eleven Rugby World Cup it had
felt like a long time since nineteen eighty seven, hadn't it.
And I guess the pressure that was on Richie McCall's
team to win that home home World Cup, I mean England,
I guess you could say, you know, football is an
even greater religion than rugby is here and so nineteen
(40:55):
sixty six must feel like a heck of a long
time ago. But gee, it's I mean, it's such a
global game and there's some very good teams that potentially
didn't even get out of pool play or get out
of the second round of pool play this year, let
alone get to get to the Semis in the final.
But you know, I guess when you get the top
four ranked teams in the world made it to the Semis,
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that form and classes come through and we're going to
have a pretty good result. I don't know if English fans,
in their heart of hearts would have thought that this was,
you know, the best English team that's been produced since
nineteen sixty six. They were certainly capable of playing some
good football, but whether they could do it for nineteen
(41:37):
minutes and back it up with the defense required to
ultimately go on and win a titles probably another question.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I'm packing Argentina to go all the way.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
Yeah, I guess, Line or Missy. You know, he just
even to by no means a football expert. And Tom
I think there was a stat during the game where
they were talking about him that he walks forty eight
percent of the game, but you take that other fifty
two percent shows up when he's needed. He obviously draws
(42:07):
a lot of attention from the defenders, which must free
up space for the players around him. But just listening
to a few other Gary respected and some of the
other goats of the game, and they, you know, the
old age old debate about who the best of a
player has been in Lionel Messi is usually at the
top of that list. So I guess we're very fortunate
to see a player like that doing his thing, probably
(42:29):
in the Swan song of his career.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
His first tournament was two thousand and six. To put
it into perspective for England now the Galbret Shield Final
last Saturday again for the Ages, the Barbarians getting up
against pob in overtime. What an occasion, What.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
An occasion, you know, one hundred and five minutes plus
of rugby before we were able to find a winner,
and hats off to Eastern Northern Barbarians are worthy Galbros
Shield title ten years after they managed to get the
first one for that for the a Maldamated Club.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
So yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
It was a heck of a game and they had heroes.
They had heroes all across the park, didn't they And
great to see you know, some of those players sort
of being recognized with higher honors and getting a crack
leading into this first preseason game with the Stags taking
on a Targo on Friday.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Harrison Morton, he's with the Stags of sweet. You watch
the guy at the restarts the other day, so composed
and their bulls kicked off because Greg Dier cats it
halfway up to the moon. Let's be honest. They were
terrific those restarts. But he was cool under pressure. Every
time he made the big hits. He did his cool
roles very well. And when you look at the Stag
squad and we can get young guys like this coming through,
(43:42):
Let's be honest, there's a lot of imports accounted it
the other day almost they just under half of this
teams from outside the province.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Yeah, and I think we've We've talked about this before,
haven't we around. I guess drafting in enough outside talent
that we can that that puts a frame where I
can put support around the talent that we developed locally
and allows them to shine at that NPC level, and
probably just being able to get that that balance right.
I guess it feels at times that the balance probably
(44:13):
isn't isn't is a bit of skew, but there's a
bit of recency bias. I guess you get to this
stage of the season where the Stags are looking to
sort of plug some of those gaps, and obviously they're bringing.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Players in to do that.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
They're not they're not the lone range of there target
very much in the same in the same boat as well.
So you know, we've got to we've got to give
our young guys every opportunity to, you know, to be
able to show the weares on the on the national stage.
And and so it's such a short, such a short
sprint of a competition the NPC. You've got to start well,
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and I guess the first job to starting well is
making sure you have a good preseason, so that starts
out at Riveton on Friday Afternoon.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
South and Sharks in the NBL. They're marching along to
the semi finals.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
We're rapidly reaching the end of the regular season, only
a couple of games to go, and things are just
so evenly poised mathematically. We could still lock in that
top spot, I believe, and potentially if we can get
through the playoffs and and and have a grand Final
at Ilt Stadium South And but let's not get ahead
of ourselves. We've still got Saturday Afternoon Hawks Bay Hawks
(45:24):
and then a pretty mouth water and clash up in
Wellington against the Saints in the last round. Win both
of those games, and they put themselves in a pretty
good position, but just probably been some you know, they
probably had the speed wobbles and and had some interesting
situations just in the in the last few weeks in
terms of player of availability. Yeah, unfortunately losing one of
(45:50):
their key imports who's been troubled by with a calf
niggle and and you would have made a big difference.
But you know, I guess they just got to get
that chemistry right. I believe that the Southern Sharks team
can go all the way this year. And interesting to
see Hawking to a Tara sort of stumble against Tigo
(46:10):
nuggets in the past week as well. So yeah, I
believe the sharks can go all the way if things
go their way, They'll just need a little bit of luck.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Good only Nathan Ways, appreciate your time.
Speaker 9 (46:20):
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Speaker 1 (46:57):
Got there?
Speaker 3 (46:58):
And why did he go on again for him?
Speaker 9 (47:01):
Pay?
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Did you write some Brazil stock selling action which occurred
at the Charlton saw yards this morning? Dave Morrison's on
the ground for us once again. Get I tago, How doll.
Speaker 7 (47:08):
We go.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Afternoon? And yeah, no pretty good today?
Speaker 6 (47:12):
Good size yearling Once again, I was a few skinned
dry use coming through.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
We'll just start with the.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Prime names, the very very best, the crime names three
seventy to three ninety of exception, the heavy lambs of course,
million lambs for medium prime names sort of two forty
two sixty with the light of the prime names just
hovering man sort of one and five to two hundred,
large number of rams, and today the best of rams
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one thirty light of rams fifty to sixty dollars under
the mutton and the year the Yearling and muttons best
to use probably the US are probably best way with
today best the best the use to twenty to two
forty heavy use sort of one eighty five one ninety
for mediums and the light to use again around so
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one hundred and ten one hundred and thirty dollars Lames
store aims year goodcise jadging store Lams. Here a game
today that didn't make his ease again the best store
Aims good Lams one aided the two hundred dollars milliums
with one sixty five one seventy five with the light
of the store lams around the hundred and forty five
hundred and fifty. But that reps up from a busy,
(48:22):
busy morning A childho Yeah, then you will be
What that was is cute.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Got into run excellent.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on HOKANII Andy
Mure here until two o'clock. The show's brought to you
by Peter's Genetics. Thanks for your company. On an overcast
afternoon hereing Gore currently at nine degrees. We'll look at
the weather shortly. But it's been a bit going on
in the past twenty four hours, especially regaining the breefly
situation H five N one and of course that's strain
(00:30):
washed up on Patoni Beach. So in the resting the
commentary around that, one of the first things that came
out hearing on social media was hopefully I can keep
eating fried chicken. So yeah, anyway, bigger issues to worry
about them. But nonetheless, that's the state of play there
in England, the ound of the World Cup. I think
it's fair to say they were missimerized and our Harry
(00:53):
Kane was Kane. Anyway, two one to Argentina. They're onto
the big Dance to play Spain England in the third
place playoff, which nobody wants to play. But it's all
about the money, right playing France, that'll be a good game.
As well, so nonetheless something to ponder over the weekend.
The music today is nineteen ninety four. This song here
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is called quite literally here Here we Go. And the
reason that's their opening song is because Matt McCrae of
Mocker Reader is getting us underway this afternoon with all
the ends.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Pokanui's five day forecast with twin farm teff from and
soft text. The proof is in the progeny teffrom dot
co dot inzad.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
How's that for a loose correlation for a Thursday where
the weather is going to be showers or Reesely's hearing
gord this afternoon and are high of ten Friday cloudy,
have breezey nor westerlyes eight and thirteen. That's a good
overnight low Saturday rain with breezy westles five and eleven.
Sunday showers are like Whistley's two and nine and Monday
sunny with calm variable wins zero and nine. So it
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temperatures to hand Clinton two point eight, Harriet four point
three Northern South and five point five Riverton seven point
four tier Our Sex today was six point two Oneton
four point nine at Woodland's six ma'mber Cray mackareita, like
I say, all the ymns getting us underway this afternoon,
followed up by Joseph Mooney, MP four Southland looking at
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poles and as well as Breethly situation. What's the latest there,
but as well the MPC. We asked Joseph Mooney, you're
a Targo but you're in you're electric Southland, So what
side of the fence that you're supporting. Kethere McCrae out
out of beef for Air New Zealand. Well, she was
originally out of Mockata. I was going to put that
in there, just force to have it when you're mentioning
(02:49):
a McCrae talk about being a scientist regarding genetics. Julie
Edwards off Sheerwere UK. Now we catch up with Alan
McCleary on a regular basis. Now Julie's with the Campany
based over in England and we caught up recently to
have a good shed as well. And Nasan burdon our
residence sporting Guru the end of the line for England.
(03:09):
It is another Stags pre season gets under way tomorrow
at Riverton. Dave Morrison at PGG writes and gives us
a rundown on the stock stale report out of Charlton.
Then we crank into it with all the ens Matacray.
This is the muster Room til two o'clock thanks to
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Speaker 3 (03:42):
Matt McCrae farms at Macartha and joins us this afternoon.
Good afternoon, Matt, Any Camosi. Here comes a hot stepper
that seems to be pretty much a catch cry for
your forty teams at the moment.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
The afternoon, Andy, Yeah, you won't catch me step in
two much. I'm just in.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
These days.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But yeah, they're certainly going a ride at the moment
at the dosin this end of the season, which is good.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
How long since the senior team lost a game? Was
it two and a half years or something?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I heard?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, I don't want to drink them, to be fair,
but it is something like that. Yeah, I've got a
filly good street going at the moment. So they've been
working pretty hard to maintain it. They'll be playing a
pretty good outfit in Riverton this weekend. Yeah, no doubt
they'll be training.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Had hell's everything. Looking on the ranch, it sounds as
though it's a little bit deep.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, we've got twenty miles of rain overnights just to
have to draw it out away bit yesterday. So yeah,
winters being winter, which is quite good. Yeah, they're just
going through the motions with a fea bit on crop
at the moment. We've got funs and singles and a
few kettles still on and all of it's ship grows
and the rest now that the head over the autumn
(04:56):
as well, fear bit of electric fencing. But it's yeah,
good to be have the wet leathers on after I've
seen to avoid a bit of the ship that comes
through last week.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, you have a lot of rainfall on there normally. Anyway,
where would you say you are? Would you be on
power where where it traditionally is, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I'd say so. I haven't actually looked in comparison to
the last few years, but I just see we've ticked
over nine hundred mills for the year with that, but
we've got overnight. Yeah, we're getting we get a fish here,
but it's we're well set up for it, and and
yeah it covers a lot and good and the stock
pretty good, their skin really well as always. So yeah,
(05:37):
we just we get the hoggits and and another ten
days or so and get them through. It'll be interesting
to see where they are that they're certainly looking a
picture at the moment.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Crop utilizations where you want it to be.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, you always wasted to weave it in the
in the wet that we're kind of like I've started
dirt or two day shifting some of the stuff on
the this year and just they just seem to be
a bit more settled and they'd leave a bit behind
at the gon. Yeah, the utilization's been good. The swede
(06:10):
crops are being fantastic this year as well. They'd probably
be around they're aiding ton at a guess the way
they're eating. So I'm pretty happy with that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You've been over and Aussie recently in Adelaide the lam
Mix conference. It was a massive deal to it was
like fourteen hundred people turned up.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, so I'm shut over there with decent men last
week and yeah, there's fourteen hundred people there over the
three days. I think there's twelve hundred at the gala
dinner on the final night, and yeah, people from all
over the world, but yeah, mainly Aussies as you'd expect,
but never been hadlaid before. But it's not a bad
place and certainly a bit warmer than what it was
(06:51):
at home. And yeah, the conference was just all around sheep,
I guess in Australian sheep industry in particular. I learned
away bit around the Aussies and there's a few things
can bring home, but certainly very thought provoking and there's
a lot of innovation and curse are happening that we
can cheer across the industry here too.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No doubt a trip to the Barossa Valley was thrown
in there as well.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
No I didn't I come home and the day of
the field tours and spend a day catching up on
a bit of work doing school holidays. But yeah, there's
a few that we're heading that way or the before
or after the conference, but it's just timing of it
and a busy time of the year as well, so
(07:37):
trying to make use some the days over school holidays
fair cooler.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
They weren't met So what was the major issues over there?
Is a very similar to Kiwi farmers and what we're
having to tolerate at the moment or prices are pretty buoyant,
but other factors externally just coming into play.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, they are very similar. I was so not fear like. Obviously,
they kill thems a lot heavier and the twenty five
low average plus wait ground wait bracket, and they also
have the wall income as well, a lot of Marino
influence coming through, so they've got that income stream as well.
(08:16):
The probably what surprised me the most is there's a
fair bit of containment. Containment feeding so the like when
they run out of feed, they feed groin and but
some pieces to the lands before they for a couple
months before they go to the works. Yeah, there's some
interesting things. They're investing a lot on R and D
(08:36):
and there's a few things that we can probably take
back here or go on pair of sorts and technology
that that will go global, which is pretty cool to see.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
What about wall what's happening in the space over there
in Australia.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
So to speak.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yes, obviously the there's a fear bit of wall tech
they've been investing in for a while now. There's a
probably a couple of sons that caught my interests as
a bit of technology that they were don't correct me
on the numbers, but it's something like taking twenty three
micron wall down to twenty using this machine, and I
inquired around if I could take strong wall down to
(09:16):
twenty as well, but obviously I haven't had as much
as the questioning and a the this ye was to
go and look into it, but be pretty course they did.
And the other bit was there's a brief discussion on
the bio harvesting of wool and injecting what I believe
is a corn extract or something similar, And again they're
(09:39):
pretty life on the details because it's still in development,
but yeah, injecting that into the sheep, which causes a
wall break, and ten to fourteen days later they can
come in and effectively pull the wall off the sheep
or use a developing like a big vacuum cleaner to
pull it off, and then AI to class wall and
(10:01):
their bodocks to sort it in into your fedges. Like
just pretty outrageous things to be thinking of in terms
of what we're doing from here. But it's call that
those people out there looking at alternatives and and what
possibly could be done.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So you're effectively plucking a live sheep.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, yep, yeah, and it's I think the ten to
fourteen days is so the wall grows out enough that
it's pretty much at the same length as what it
would be if sure it so, and you could leave
it longer, longer, like four weeks if you wanted a covercam.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, there's a lot of cool technology there that they're
looking at, but obviously it would have to take a
lot of the boxes and get in, but would be
a game changer for for some people in the industry.
And like when you look at the way shedding's gone
and taken off, like it could be a will potentially
be an alternative.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You also mentioned before briefly as well, affair about AI
and wall pressing.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, so that was the they're going to use the
AI to class the wall off, this machine that class
it into your microns or grades, and then the robotics
to press it press it into bows. I guess you
would take away that in your labor aspect of the
(11:33):
sharing as well. So it's your mate, so who knows,
you may have a truck turn up and instead of
having a wallshed, give curtain side of truck turn up
and all your wall harvesting that way, and all.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
These robots that get rolled into your wall sheed for
an afternoon.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I doubt it's the clond of technology
that you'll deserve sitting around yourself. But who knows. Obviously,
spending a fair bit of money on R and A
in comparison to what we are on the wall space,
I guess it's just one of the many things that
they're looking at, but it's certainly something that put more
attention anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Plenty going on, mate, We'll let you carry on all
the best of your windom follows over the weekend too.
It's a hell of a street you've got going.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I appreciate it. Cheers any.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Matt McCrae of Mocareda AI and the woolshed anywhere and everywhere. Coincidentally,
any commosy, here comes a hot stepper the same today
as nineteen ninety four. Joseph Mooney is up next to
in Pever, Southland. You're listening to the Muster.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Welcome back to the Muster. Joseph Mooney is in Pever
Southland and joins us this afternoon. How thing's been has
been pretty hectic over the past few weeks, I'd imagine.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, I'm looking at some blue skys right now, which
is pretty awesome. But you had been a hectic a
few weeks alright. So we had three weeks speak to
Beck in Parliament and I spent exactly one night at
home on each of those weeks. For the last two
at least, it was just the rest of the time
was stuck in parliament for various different reasons, primarily but
(13:14):
it's good. Good to be back in the home region.
Now see some blue skies.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Do you have direct flights from Queenstown to Wellington on
imagine years.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
No, He as a short answer that it's either flying
by Christus or Auckland or Delaven.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Why can't we get that sorted out? Why can we
sort out regional flights for this country?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Look, we used to have better regional flights, but for
a number of reasons in New Zealand produced those. They
have a rainy of different reasons. One is exchange in demand.
Another as they had engine problems with some of the aircraft,
which I think had been recently resolved. Didn't. I think
(14:00):
it invests as much as some other airlines did during
the COVID sort of lockdown period when the whole world
was pretty uncertain, and so that neither down the wideingness
for new aircraft. And then of course the you know,
the fuel restrictions it came about as a result of
the war in the Middle East. So there's sort of
(14:24):
a number of a range of different reasons that they
say why they have reduced regional flights across the country.
But look, it is a films because we forgot to
a long, thin country. We're heavily reliant on being to
get around, you know, and by ear as well as
on road.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Here's hoping one day we see commons ins around that.
Joseph now interesting in politics over the past couple of
days with Paul Henry throwing his head into the ring
with act that's some time of Michael Laws and Tane
Randall amongst others, but a very hope high profile people
to be fair, But Paul Henry interesting saying that he
fears for a left wing government, but he doesn't hold
a lot of trust in Christopher accent as well as
(15:03):
to what he's doing as Prime Minister.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Oh, the keep around the toiler to have their perspective
and their point of view obviously right, and look got
on for throwing it hat in the ring, and got
on for anyone throwing hit in the ring. It's a
it is a pretty dusty, bloody ring. Some stuff. It's
trying to speak but looking through my hat in the
ring in twenty twenty because I was you want to
do my bit to try and d the need on
the right directions for my kids and my grandkids. Well,
(15:29):
if and when that happens, so you know, anyone who's
passionate about the country and wants to try over the
right direction and say good on them for giving the mudge.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
There's a frustration around these polls being in the late
twenties not a good look.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
We obviously want those to be high, but you know,
it's I have to acknowledge that it has been a
you know, it's been it's been tough for years, right.
We had the first COVID and then we've had you know, tariffs,
and then we've had the war in the Middle East,
and we had the most unstable geopolitical era since the
(16:07):
Second World War globally, and then we have massive technological
change on top of that, and so with worth that
comes a lot of uncertainty. It's it's expensive. You know,
though we've we've managed to get inflation on control, which
was you know, really signific because they was driving out
the cost of everything. Else, there's there's still that baseline
(16:29):
higher costs that that's that inflationary period created, and any
you know later on top of that, just the impact
of fuel in the cost of goods for fuel, and
then the you know, the chips that have gone sutainy,
which impacts on trade and therefore the cost of goods.
It all makes things for just a challenging environment. And
(16:50):
you know, I can I can tell me understand why
some folks can feel a bit grumpy in which things
are better faster.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I'd say it's more than someday. Vulgure respect and the
prime mony surroundings for Christopher Lax and it's not good
optics at the moment.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, well, look, we we we just have to move
the very best we can. And you know, we've we've
done a huge amount of work as a government to
get this country back on track and you know, to
fix those basics so we can we can focus on
building for the future of this country. But you know,
it's like I appreciate that. You know, some folks definitely,
(17:29):
you know, would like things to move faster and and
see solutions quicker. But it's something that we sing around
the world, governments around the world. There's just a there's
something in the horder at the moment that seems globally
and and but you know, the true test will be
what happens when in their ballot box.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
In bird flu, it's been it's finally come across to
the side of the ditch. I say finally, but not
in a good way. What's the latest, Joseph, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Well i've seen that these one bird that's been tested
was it at least? And it's something we've been keeping
on for the last couple of years because you know,
we're surrounded by countries that have had bird flu, including Antarctica,
and it's kind of been a miracle that New Zealand
hasn't had it to date. But it's not something we
(18:23):
want to have. But there's been a lot of work
being done to prepare for basically the inevitability of when
that did arrive in New Zealand, because we've got a
phenomenal number of birds. We're one of the most significant
sea life seabird countries and the planet. So I was
(18:43):
Needle was going to come here at some point, But
like I said, there's a lot of work has been
done to prepare for it. Doesn't mean that it's not
going to be easy. Aren't necessarily, but because it's a
it's a watching brief while we try to manage the
strain that has been identified here. Now, like I say,
it's probably not something as well known, but New New
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Zealanders has I think the most significant number of seabirds
on the planet, and you're about something like forty percent
of all seabed species come to this country. So they
travel right across the entire planet in some cases to
come here, which is quite incredible. But with that means
that we're hyper connected to the rest of the world
(19:27):
and it is honestly incredible that we haven't had it hate.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
But now we do a good news story as well.
Dunedin Hospital Finally we're seeing progress there.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, that's awesome, and it's this government moved from talking
to action, you know, signed off the contract with the
last years to get the outpatient building under way and
yesterday the first put a structure still rising out of
their ground so people are able to see it visibly
rising to the air. Now it's going to gold up
(20:01):
to its full eleven stories, which is a great thing
for the region. That's important. Role of players are Tutiory
and Training Hospital for the Lower South.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Just finally, Joseph the South and Stags pre season against
the target and Murrow nail your colors to the wall.
What side do you want to target? South and for
the m PC And you can't sit on the wall
for this.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Come on, Oh, you put me in a very difficult position.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Because we're a politicising and used to it. We need
an answer. Don't say a draw. You can't do that.
Come on, who's gonna wait?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Are we running up on the other sideline? That's your.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You're just happy being the MP for Tower A right, No, I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Happy being the MP for South part of the.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Hey, good on to Joseph, you carry on noise, appreciate
your time.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He got mate, je.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
MP for South and Joseph Mooney. He just enjoys the
MPC for what it is and that's rugby gets underway
in a couple of weeks. Up next Katherine McCrae out
of Beef and Lamb New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
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I'm clever. Katherine McCrae joins us in the Beef and
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the artist is leased alone and nine Stories. Well, speaking
of stories, if you want to have a better line
there at the Smoker Room, I'm sure our next guest
(21:33):
will be able to do that. Katherine McCrae, thanks for
joining us on the mustard. Now we spoke to your brother,
actually met earlier on in the hour. But you're a
scientist majoring in genetics. Must be a fascinating line of work.
Good afternoon, Good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
How's it going.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Yes see, I've been working in animal genetics for the
past decade or more so. Really good to be able
to do something that has practical application to my which
is growing up on a farm.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Genetics is just ever evolving. I mean we're seeing that
at the moment straight off the battle last year question,
there seems to be a lot of triplets being born
this year. Are we going to be ye able to
actually just have twin producing sheep in the future. Is
this a possibility or is it just pine the sky thinking.
Speaker 7 (22:20):
That's definitely something that farmers would love if we could
do that. Unfortunately, in terms of number of lambsborn the genetics,
the genetic component is there, but it's not really strong.
So what we see as we increase scanning percentage from
a genetics perspective, at least that also increases the number
of triplets. So unfortunately, not a straightforward answer, and probably
(22:43):
things like nutrition play much more of a role than
genetics for that, although there is a small component.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Give people a little bit of a backstory about getting
into your role regarding genetics, Catherine, My.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
Backstory is one of those fortune and it being in
the right place, right time. Always loved genetics at school,
studied it at university, and then was a conversation with
a bank manager actually, as I was sort of home
from university. He asked what I wanted to do, and
when I said I was interested in having a more
(23:18):
practical application, he introduced me to a stud breeder who
introduced me to some scientists at AGG Research and they
offered me a further post grad study and the rest
is history. So yeah, really loved combining what I've studied
at university with actually that practical on farm application.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You talk about genetics being ever evolving. Methane reduction has
been something that's been the focus over the past couple
of seasons. What's going to be the next big thing
in genetics.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Yeah, a group has done quite a bit in the
methaan reduction space. Some of the things that are coming up,
both in New Zealand and internationally are things like seed efficiency,
so how we can breed for animals that consume less
feed for their amount they grow. And then also which
is my main air of interest in terms of disease,
(24:08):
so particularly with an ever changing climate, consumers asking less
inputs with the earth stock, what we're seeing is we
increasingly need animals that can actually cope with diseases better
they're parasites or pneumonia or facial exima or any of
those other diseases. And so a lot of my research
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is trying to figure out how we can breed for
animals that can cope with embedded genetically as well.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
We're in burdens. Interesting you bring that up cassine that
is a major problem on farms.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Yes, yeah, and genetics is definitely one of those tools
that is a tool in your toolbox. When we talk
about genetics, we talk about it being permanent and cumulative.
So if you're ram breeder, is breeding for reduced parasite
burdens through or increase parasite resistance, that is that going
(25:00):
to be a great tool to have in your toolbox
long term and your you flock in particular.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Now the Lamb Mix conference, like we say, Matt talked
about it earlier in the hour, but your perspective being
all about genetics and the likes, what were some really
interesting insights that you got from it.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, it was great being over there, caught up with
a few Australian colleagues, which was really good. We don't
get a chance to do that too often. It was
interesting to compare what's happening in Australia with what's happening
in New Zealand, and there was definitely some parallels. Sheep genetics,
which is the Australian equivalent of beef and lamb genetics here,
(25:40):
for example, started offering a tool where you can take
DNA samples from about twenty US in your flock or lambs,
and they can get processed and you can get an estimate.
You can kind of benchmark how your flock performs in
terms of breeding values. And so Beef and Lamb Genetics
over here has just launched their improof track at All
(26:03):
which does something similar using your RAM tags. So as
a commercial farmer, that's a way for you to have
a look at your use and your flock and actually
see how they compare on things like New Zealand maternal
worth compared to the national average. And so that then
helps you decide where you want to go in terms
(26:23):
of RAM selection, which is incredibly useful. So they were
they had launched that and like I said, it's about
the same time as something similar was being launched over here.
But it was interesting to see how they were talking
about how it could be practically used on farm.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Would you say sheep genetics and New Zealand is on
a par with your Australian counterparts.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
A lot of the Australian stuff is focused on marinos,
but definitely I would say that the like in New
Zealand we've had for the last time thirty years, we've
had the Central progeny test has been helping with our
genetic evaluation being able to be cross breed, which is
(27:08):
pretty impressive. So I think that our sheep genetics in
New Zealand is definitely held up to a high standard globally.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
So there's just a pleathor of things. I suppose it
comes under the genetic spanner. I think from your perspective,
it must be a fascinating subject and when you think
about science and what the possibilities are, and Matt talks
about it before the way that AI is coming to
the equation, what does that actually do for you guys
with AI being involved.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Yeah, it's definitely something that we are investigating is how
we can use AI tools both in terms of genetic
how we evaluate the animals, but also how we measure
them as well. We've got a number of things that
we measure that are currently done by I or by
feel things like body condition score or DAG score and
(27:59):
other things traits like that, structural traits like feet and
so there's definitely a bit of work starting and how
we can take take them from being scored by human
to being scored using AI tools, which is pretty exciting.
So then from science perspective. What we just need is
(28:20):
to be able to validate that. But it potentially means
that we can measure a lot more animals and have
standard measurements as well.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Maggot resistance shape. Is this a possibility?
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Well, I mentioned DAG score before, so in New Zealand
we measuring fly strike is a lot harder because you like,
from a genetics perspective, you have to measure animals when
there is a challenge, which we prefer not to do.
It's so, but what previous work has shown is that
fly strike is quite highly correlated with DAG score. So
(28:56):
DAG score is one of those things that it's fairly
easy to measure. There's a I think it's one to
five scale from a breeder's perspective, and about forty to
forty five percent of the variation we see between animals
is due to genetics. So you can measure and select
your animals based on DAG score. You're going to make
(29:17):
a quick progress and it's going to have an impact
on fly strike as well.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Plenty to ponder there, Catherine, thanks for your time on
the muster of this afternoon and genetics. There's a possibility,
there's a million possibilities out there. Keep up the great work.
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Cheers, thank you very much, No I know that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
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year of Nathan Burden.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
You say.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
This is the muster on Hakanui ace of based the sign.
The theme today is nineteen ninety four as we head
over to the other side of the world to catch
up with Julie Edwards out of Sheerwell, UK. Now you
know the chance we do with Alan McCleary on a
monthly paces here on the muster Well we're catching up
with Julie now Sheerwell is a massive mess of company
based over in the UK and we're catching up with
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Julie just to see how the farming vibers over in
England at the moment. Julie, thanks for chatting on the muster.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Thanks Andy, great to join you. A great piece of
music as well that brings back good memories from me,
brings back a lot of good memories.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I think I was like nineteen when that song come
out For goodness sake, without reminiscing too much, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
Yeah, absolutely, I think we're about the same age.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Then, firstly, how's the farming mood over in the UK.
It sounds as though you've had a heat wave after
heat wave to contend with, and that's about talking about
your heat wave, milk Warmer.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
Absolutely, So this is our third heat wave of the year,
so we're only into early July and already, you know,
we've had temperatures of over thirty five degrees, which is
unheard of in the UK, and you know, had a
massive impact for the livestock and the arable sector. You know,
we I think what it has demonstrated is that moving
forward we are going to have to think about installing
(31:21):
fans in our sheds. I think, you know, definitely planting
a more trees. Cucheade is so important. You know, we
alongside working for Shearwell, I also have a farm with
my husband, so we've got sucker caws and sheep and
pigs and you know, it's been hard to see how
they've struggled. You know, We've done our best to keep
everything cool. But yeah, unprecedented times. You know, we've gone
(31:45):
from cold, wet winter into very hot and you know,
certainly at the moment on our farm it's very burnt up.
The long term forecast looks like we're not going to
get any rain, probably any significant rain until the middle
of August, which I know, you know, for a lot
of people is fairly short term, but for us, it's
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had a significant impact. We've got wild fires as well.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Over a u K.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
At the moment, I think there's three that they're trying
to deal with. So, you know, changing times, I guess
environmentally and certainly making us think about how we farm
and what we need to do to prepare for the future.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, because you're hearing about the harvest coming up and
a lot of concerns around the fire risk as well.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, we're already seen on social media,
you know a number of farmers that have lost significant
acreages of wheat and barley, you know, and I think
that it's having an impact on the maize as well,
so you know, just for the maize crop, not enough water,
so the kernels well, you know, there's just nothing, there's
(32:48):
no moisture there. But Yeah, it's unprecedented, as I say,
and quite a concern. I think, you know, the animals,
you know, whether it's a dairy sector with the cows,
they're suffering from heat stress. We've had animals at home
that we've had to bring in, particularly younger crafts that
just can't cope with the heat. Yeah, and it's a
(33:08):
summer like we've never known before, and I guess potentially
moving forward this could be the norm. So as a consequence,
we're going to plan, have to plan for the future
and put some significant changes in place.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
On the farm. So Haill's farmers seem to me at
the moment gerally, given the weather has been like that.
But on the other side as well, prices have been
pretty buoyant.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
You know, we've probably for several well certainly this is
the second year at least where we've seen some really
significantly good prices for lamb and for beef, you know,
whether it's whether it's ween lambs or finish lambs, and
the same with the cattle sector. The store prices and
the finished prices have been phenomenal. But having said that,
(33:50):
that's where they should have been for some significant time.
And I think you know, there has been a disconnect
between what farmers have been paid historically and what you know,
in terms of the prices that we're seeing in the supermarket.
And I think perhaps sometimes you know, consumers don't recognize
their significance and the importance of the food that we're producing,
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you know, the whole the whole story around field or
fork to field to fork is so is so significant,
and I think, you know, we perhaps need to put
more emphasis on making people aware of how and where
their food is produced, you know, And it's not as
easy as just going into a supermarket and picking up
a product. It's making them think about actually how it's
(34:31):
been produced and the value of that food, the nutritional value,
and the costs of production as well, because obviously, with
everything that's going on at the moment, you know, with
the blockades in the straits of hor Moos and fuel
and everything, input prices are rising, so prices have to
be good because you know, the knock on effect further
down the line is significant.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Now, Julie, we were talking off fear and it sounds
as over the UK is facing the same issues as
New Zealand. Whether it's real a connectivity or whatever, across
the board. There are a lot of similarities between the
two economies.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Oh absolutely. You know, quite often when I've listened to
you interviewing Allan historically, you know, I think we may
have different phrases for things, but actually the sentiment is
the same. And you know, I think that although you know,
different times of year, I think New Zealand farmers and
farmers in the UK will have the same challenges and
(35:26):
the same struggles, you know, whether as you just said,
you highlighted rural connectivity, you know, which is key. You know,
if you're farming in a fairly isolated area. You know,
we are totally reliant on having that connectivity available to us,
and that's an area where we are sadly lacking in
the UK at the moment, and there needs to be
some significant investments. But you know, I think farmers are resilient,
(35:51):
so they'll find a way, you know, certainly from sheer
our perspective. We produce products like our software. You know,
you can use it and work offline and then as
soon as you come back in to signal you can
it automatically updates. So yeah, we've got around that problem.
But it is a challenge that needs to be sorted
sooner rather than later.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Now you talk about sheer well, I like you say.
I talked to l on a regular basis about sheap tags,
kettle tags. But coming up to landing time, the heat
waves milk warmer talking to farmers on the show this week,
and they're having a lot of truplets in the US,
and all of a sudden it becomes pretty well realistic
and economical or worth it to put on the heat
wave milk warmer system as such.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
Absolutely, you know, So the heat wave I think, you know,
in terms of its price, it is pitched at a
really good price, and I think it's it's one of
those products that it's multi purpose, so you can use
it for rearing lambs, so you can rear up to
fifty lambs on it or thirty calves, and you know,
we use it on our farm at home, and you know,
in terms of production quite often, you know, if you're
(36:55):
feeding bottle lambs, you may not finish quite the finish
that you'd want. But with a heat wave, when you're
rearing them on that, they automatically just help themselves. So
it's a bit like them going to their mums normally,
So they're drinking regularly and performance is exceptional. So we
see a lot of really good lambs and cars performing
(37:15):
really well on it, and we get really good feedback
from customers that are using it. And I think you know,
the thing to say about the heat wave is there's
really only two things. Once you've set it up, just
regularly check that there is water in the water bath
and that you clean it regularly like you would babies bottles,
because all the ways you know with milk, it can
it can get built up in there. So it's a
really straightforward product to.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Use something else that's relevant at the moment or coming
onto the market that's going to make life a lot
easier for farmers to the speedy tagger.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
Absolutely, So that's the product that I think, you know,
people have been waiting to arrive.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
So it's.
Speaker 8 (37:50):
It basically has a cartridge that it will hold a
strip of ten set tags, whether they're just visual or
eed tags, and you know, you put a strip of
ten in rather than to individually load each individual tag.
This makes things a lot quicker. So you know, if
you're slaughter, if you're tagging slaughter lambs or whatever, you
can just go down through the line tag everything and
(38:11):
it's a job it probably half the time. So yeah,
very very popular with people. You know, it's lightweight and
it's effortless really in terms of how people will use it,
and you can use it if you're left or right
handed as well. So it also comes with five cartridges,
so you know you can sit in the evening and
(38:33):
just load them and it makes life very easy for everybody.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Absolutely, Now we'll talk about this a ellum a couple
of weeks, Julie, have we a bitter leave it there.
Thank you very much for catching up us. We're going
to catch up with you on a regular basis as
well on the Master and I'll be honest, I've had
to record this a little bit earlier, so you'll be
either celebrating or commiserating in England winneror on England lost.
Speaker 8 (38:53):
I'm an optimist, Andy, and I'm you know, England's going
to do it.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
It's going to bring it home, that's coming home.
Speaker 8 (38:59):
But yeah, great to talk.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
To you, Julie Edwards out of Sheerwell, UK. Great to
catch up with the team as we do with Alan McCleary.
Coincidentally as well, recorded earlier before England lost in the
semi final to Argentina. Nonetheless, we're talking about that next
with our resident sporting gury, Nathan Burden. Welcome back to
(39:37):
the muster. Nathan Burden is our resident sporting guru. Good afternoon, Nathan.
Just for all those English football supporters out there, dream
things can only get better. Yeah it was.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
It was a heck of a game this morning, wasn't it.
And unfortunately English hearts broken. Unfortunately or fortunately depinding I
suppose on what and what what camp you're in.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
But I guess it.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
It sets up a sets up a MESSI final, doesn't it.
Argentina resuspay.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
They just crave success so badly. Nineteen sixty six was
a very long time ago, and football is a national
sport over there. It's an obsession, it's fair to say
for a lot of people. And the fact is they
just can't get over the line that they're thereabouts, whether
it's in the World Cup or the euro Championships. They
get just about to the summit, but about ten I
(40:26):
don't know, ten meters from the top, the weather caves in.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Yeah, and I guess we could have some empathy and
heading into that twenty eleven Rugby World Cup it had
felt like a long time since nineteen eighty seven, hadn't it.
And I guess the pressure that was on Richie McCall's
team to win that home home World Cup, I mean England,
I guess you could say, you know, football is an
even greater religion than rugby is here and so nineteen
(40:55):
sixty six must feel like a heck of a long
time ago. But gee, it's I mean, it's such a
global game and there's some very good teams that potentially
didn't even get out of pool play or get out
of the second round of pool play this year, let
alone get to get to the Semis in the final.
But you know, I guess when you get the top
four ranked teams in the world made it to the Semis,
(41:17):
that form and classes come through and we're going to
have a pretty good result. I don't know if English fans,
in their heart of hearts would have thought that this was,
you know, the best English team that's been produced since
nineteen sixty six. They were certainly capable of playing some
good football, but whether they could do it for nineteen
(41:37):
minutes and back it up with the defense required to
ultimately go on and win a titles probably another question.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I'm packing Argentina to go all the way.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
Yeah, I guess, Line or Missy. You know, he just
even to by no means a football expert. And Tom
I think there was a stat during the game where
they were talking about him that he walks forty eight
percent of the game, but you take that other fifty
two percent shows up when he's needed. He obviously draws
(42:07):
a lot of attention from the defenders, which must free
up space for the players around him. But just listening
to a few other Gary respected and some of the
other goats of the game, and they, you know, the
old age old debate about who the best of a
player has been in Lionel Messi is usually at the
top of that list. So I guess we're very fortunate
to see a player like that doing his thing, probably
(42:29):
in the Swan song of his career.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
His first tournament was two thousand and six. To put
it into perspective for England now the Galbret Shield Final
last Saturday again for the Ages, the Barbarians getting up
against pob in overtime. What an occasion, What.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
An occasion, you know, one hundred and five minutes plus
of rugby before we were able to find a winner,
and hats off to Eastern Northern Barbarians are worthy Galbros
Shield title ten years after they managed to get the
first one for that for the a Maldamated Club.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
So yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
It was a heck of a game and they had heroes.
They had heroes all across the park, didn't they And
great to see you know, some of those players sort
of being recognized with higher honors and getting a crack
leading into this first preseason game with the Stags taking
on a Targo on Friday.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Harrison Morton, he's with the Stags of sweet. You watch
the guy at the restarts the other day, so composed
and their bulls kicked off because Greg Dier cats it
halfway up to the moon. Let's be honest. They were
terrific those restarts. But he was cool under pressure. Every
time he made the big hits. He did his cool
roles very well. And when you look at the Stag
squad and we can get young guys like this coming through,
(43:42):
Let's be honest, there's a lot of imports accounted it
the other day almost they just under half of this
teams from outside the province.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Yeah, and I think we've We've talked about this before,
haven't we around. I guess drafting in enough outside talent
that we can that that puts a frame where I
can put support around the talent that we developed locally
and allows them to shine at that NPC level, and
probably just being able to get that that balance right.
I guess it feels at times that the balance probably
(44:13):
isn't isn't is a bit of skew, but there's a
bit of recency bias. I guess you get to this
stage of the season where the Stags are looking to
sort of plug some of those gaps, and obviously they're bringing.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Players in to do that.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
They're not they're not the lone range of there target
very much in the same in the same boat as well.
So you know, we've got to we've got to give
our young guys every opportunity to, you know, to be
able to show the weares on the on the national stage.
And and so it's such a short, such a short
sprint of a competition the NPC. You've got to start well,
(44:49):
and I guess the first job to starting well is
making sure you have a good preseason, so that starts
out at Riveton on Friday Afternoon.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
South and Sharks in the NBL. They're marching along to
the semi finals.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
We're rapidly reaching the end of the regular season, only
a couple of games to go, and things are just
so evenly poised mathematically. We could still lock in that
top spot, I believe, and potentially if we can get
through the playoffs and and and have a grand Final
at Ilt Stadium South And but let's not get ahead
of ourselves. We've still got Saturday Afternoon Hawks Bay Hawks
(45:24):
and then a pretty mouth water and clash up in
Wellington against the Saints in the last round. Win both
of those games, and they put themselves in a pretty
good position, but just probably been some you know, they
probably had the speed wobbles and and had some interesting
situations just in the in the last few weeks in
terms of player of availability. Yeah, unfortunately losing one of
(45:50):
their key imports who's been troubled by with a calf
niggle and and you would have made a big difference.
But you know, I guess they just got to get
that chemistry right. I believe that the Southern Sharks team
can go all the way this year. And interesting to
see Hawking to a Tara sort of stumble against Tigo
(46:10):
nuggets in the past week as well. So yeah, I
believe the sharks can go all the way if things
go their way, They'll just need a little bit of luck.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Good only Nathan Ways, appreciate your time.
Speaker 9 (46:20):
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(46:53):
afternoon see tomorrow. Hey, well I'll right too heavy?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Got there?
Speaker 3 (46:58):
And why did he go on again for him?
Speaker 9 (47:01):
Pay?
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Did you write some Brazil stock selling action which occurred
at the Charlton saw yards this morning? Dave Morrison's on
the ground for us once again. Get I tago, How doll.
Speaker 7 (47:08):
We go.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Afternoon? And yeah, no pretty good today?
Speaker 6 (47:12):
Good size yearling Once again, I was a few skinned
dry use coming through.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
We'll just start with the.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Prime names, the very very best, the crime names three
seventy to three ninety of exception, the heavy lambs of course,
million lambs for medium prime names sort of two forty
two sixty with the light of the prime names just
hovering man sort of one and five to two hundred,
large number of rams, and today the best of rams
(47:40):
one thirty light of rams fifty to sixty dollars under
the mutton and the year the Yearling and muttons best
to use probably the US are probably best way with
today best the best the use to twenty to two
forty heavy use sort of one eighty five one ninety
for mediums and the light to use again around so
(48:02):
one hundred and ten one hundred and thirty dollars Lames
store aims year goodcise jadging store Lams. Here a game
today that didn't make his ease again the best store
Aims good Lams one aided the two hundred dollars milliums
with one sixty five one seventy five with the light
of the store lams around the hundred and forty five
hundred and fifty. But that reps up from a busy,
(48:22):
busy morning A childho Yeah, then you will be
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