May 17, 2026 • 41 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jon Pemberton, Jeff Grant, Dean Rabbidge, Snr Sgt Gary Iddenton and Jess Black.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Good afternoon and welcome to the Muster one Hakanui. My
name is Andy Muller. I'm here until two o'clock and
of course the show is brought to you by Peter's
janetis welcome along after an action packed weekend. I mean
you go back to last night NRL the Warriors, the
jaggernaut that is in New Zealand Warriors at the moment,
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building up thementum, looking at the main railway line out
here and just looking at everybody getting on the bandwagon
as it heads north. So yeah, we're just magic crowns.
A great concept they do in the NRL. Obviously it's
what they based Super Round off for Super rugby, but
they just do it so well. They're in Brisbane and
yeah the Highlanders gonna get the business done. But the
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Steel continue along as well, top of the table of
the A n Z Premiership and as well these these
contracts for Lamb, like Jamie's speaking to Tom Young from
FCO previously getting up towards a twelve dollar mark for springs,
So a lot of goals being kicked there. Regating red
meat prices. Tunes for a Monday afternoon. This is George Ezra.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm t from and
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Speaker 1 (01:25):
Monday afternoon see sunshine with calm, variable winds and a
high of ten. Tuesday cloud you have calm, variable winds
zero and eleven Brinson repeat for Wednesday. The temperature is
just a little bit warmer five and twelve. Thursday morning
shells of breezy westerly six and twelve and on Friday
scattered showers with like westerly six and twelve. So are
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temperatures to hand Clinton eight point five, Herriots six point seven,
Northern Southland eight point one, Riverton ten point four, Tana
nine point one, tinder Row and nine, Winton seven point
three and Woodland's eight point three of John Pembleton. Starting
us off from the Sergeant Den farming ground up based
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meansi's ferry soon to be based out of Brighton. Jeff
Grant talks politics quite a bit going on in that landscape.
It's evolving almost by the hour at the moment. Dean
Ravage farming at glenarm Locks of the renaissance of wool
based on that sale out of christ Church last Thursday.
Certainly not where it needs to be, don't get me wrong,
(02:28):
but certainly it's a step in the right direction. Senior
Sergeant Gary Yeddenden of the Cool Police talks policing matters,
and Jessica Black talks about Southern secondary schools and an
entrepreneuriship scheme that's going on there as well, which sounds
really interesting. But we'll start the hour next with John Pembleton.
This is the Muster. It's brought to you by Peters Genetics.
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Seven after one.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Feeling like some.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It means he's fairy and soon to be brighter. Will
we catch up with John Pemmerdon and the sageant dan
Farming ground up, thanks of course to Sergeant Dan Stock
Foods based here in good John. Good afternoon, a bit
of blue sky about finally.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, it's been pretty good week to be fair, apart
from a bit of fog. It's, you know, sort of
about nine o'clock at night, you expecting a frost to
roll in in the early hours and you get up
and there's a slight northerly breeze. So I was sort
of winning at the Moment's great because.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You're pretty busy there. You've got a bit going on.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, I got my enough of report into that's one
last thing to do, which is quite good for got
that in a bit over a month ago. So that's
that's ticked off a year. Look, we're just transitioning between
the two farms, out of one expanding the other one
finishing off. The kew shed just moved last week. We
just under lost old block locally at Brighton now, which
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is quite good. So yeah, given another month hopefully things.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Will be settled down.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So when do you look at dry off?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
We did.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We did ninety lot cares this morning they've gone off
to grazing, and then we get through all the sale
cares out of the least property in the last sort
of ten days week of May, and then into June
we start and we start going through the the what's
the rest of the remainder of the herd gets right off.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So yeah, just just sort.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Of not trying to jam too much into one week.
Really sort of the plan at the stage.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
How would you rate the season out of ten?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Pretty good? I think I think we got to the
November I would have told you it was pretty rubbish
because actually this November been was actually worse than the
previous one, but we didn't have any floods. Now for
us not to have a flood has been since twenty twenty,
they've been pretty damn regular and not one this year.
We can the stress the management of having to deal
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with that and not having that has been fantastic. So yeah,
she's certainly up the other season it's been. There has
been a great season. We just opened their side stick
on the the week en after duck, the week after
duck shooting, so for us, it's that's pretty late to
be opening a side stick for in May for the autumn.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So yeah, no real complaints. To be fair, it's been
a goodie.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, let's be honest. You're opening the silent stick that
at the same time people are putting silas into the stick.
It seems we've been done later and later.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, well look I think March April's better than February
and Mark's better than January, so we're the wise. So
it does feel like then in Kennedy that are still
doing soilids and I've been pushing into May for a
number of years now silad, So it does feel like
the seasons are altering. But it feels like everything's a
bit about a month later than what it used to be.
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You know, springs are turning up pretty late, pretty tough Novembers. Yeah,
so it does sort of heave your sort of thinking,
how do you plan the season going forward?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Now Enough field report has been released and feedback has
been pretty positive.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yep, yeah, no, it's good God conversations over it. And
I don't make any apologies for steering, the steering, the
washtonest on it. The whole point of enough in order
to challenge people thinking and try and look for solutions.
So I think I've delivered on that.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
We've got the biannual Enough your conference happening in November
down a numb the cargo, so that will be where
we used delivery of reports before Enough Fielders, So there
will sort of be a bit of a platform for
it should be good.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, I suppose when you look on twelve months from
where you were and is there anything you would have
done differently you think regarding your travels.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I got pretty lucky apart from those winds turning out
when I was over in Europe, Evening has been pretty
pretty smoothly and you look at you know what's happening
the world. Now my been a bit more challenging. So no,
I got pretty lucky with everything we sort of ticked off.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah you could. You could travel for.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
A lot and certainly when I came home a number
of times, it could have quite easily just carried on
because you're just getting into more and more interesting people,
right and projects that were happening overseas. So yeah, could
have could have done a lot more. But I think
it certainly got enough done to take the boxes.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You'd encourage people to get involved enough for your scholarship
scheme as such.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, absolutely, the rule leadership, these rule leaders there's a
Kellogg program and in obviously enough Field and also another
program I speak I think very highly of as the
Valley Change, which is a very limited number each year
that any one can apply. There's a reasonable fee attached
to it, but it's the value get out. It's fantastic
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when you go through the North Island and look at
the the start to finish of each supply chain of horticulture,
red meat and dairy in New Zealand, and it's not
so much around understanding the complex detail of it, but
more is getting hit around the how and why and
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what when you go to another country, understanding why they
operate the way they do. I think it just gives
you a really good at training for an ability of
a lot of especially doing enough that when you're gain
into countries to do reports sort of get you in
the right frame of mind to how the analyze things,
to sort of cut through a lot of the noise
to get to the crux of what they're doing pretty
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quickly so that they realy change on the north are
I think is really valuable.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Your report was based on reputation versus reality in New
Zealand searching for a North Star all about New Zealand's
fresh water crisis not being science or technology problem wise,
but an institutional one. So certainly, like you say, stirring
up a few regarding a conversation, yeah, I think, and
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I think he's ones read that conversation.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
We've got governments at ying yan all over the show,
and it's comes at quite a cost industry and environment,
and I think we just need to find a pathway where,
especially with the raw sector, if we can be far
more cohesive around where we're heading, what we're trying to
achieve we could certainly have make improvements in the environment
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of not having costly swings at local in central government
and the ever imputt and how that locks and also
how does a sector work with the science have provided.
So yeah, I think there's a lot of food for
thought that that's for sure. And yeah, and you're really
just sort of getting into the conversation that we're actually
hosting a field down their property at Brighton on the
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nineteenth of June during z partnered up with us and
part of that day is sort of looking at how
do we integrate or do the extinction through the science
that we're working with in New Zealand. When it comes
to farm systems.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
If people one of you your report, John, can they
find it online?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, just go to the Rule Leaders website and they'll
take you to all the all the Nuffield scholarship papers
that have been written in reports, you know, right back
to the to the fifties, so all that information is there.
So lock, there's a lot of reading and look, there's
an executive summary, will you give a good overall for
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most people, but it as well worth while going into
those reports and you know, if you can put a
timing he hands to flip through thirty forty pages. It
gives a how a lot of context is to the
executive summary.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Thanks to your time as always, John, to enjoy the other.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Cheers, edite you ever go on? Mate? Really luck.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
John Pemaden always good to catch up as we do.
Of course that are seeks so Sage and dan Stock
Foods based here in Gore. Jeff Grant is up next
talking politics.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
As mad in Jersey years Gordon Granbian.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Welcome back to the muster. Jeff Grants joins US Northern
Southland farmer business owner and is involved in many committees
and continues to do so. Good afternoon, Jeff.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
How are you good?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Andy?
Speaker 6 (11:22):
And nice to be getting into the second part of
May and the ground condition is still pretty good.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Quite a bit going on in the political landscape at
the moment, but we'll start off of this. The OECD
reporters out talking about increasing production and cross border trade
moving this out to twenty thirty four. So it's all
about upping amping production, would you say, yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Look, I think the interesting thing these reports are the
sort of predictions and so you can never guarantee what
might happen. But the cross border trade in the world
has increased over the last twenty years, and so seventeen
percent of everything that's producers now traded costs nations, but
they're predicting it's going to get out to twenty two
percent by twenty thirty four. And that is just a
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reflection that the increase in productivity in agriculture doesn't necessarily
happen in the countries that are consuming the product, and
so a good sign for New Zealand because it just
means there will be increasing demand for carbohydrates, protein and
that will continue to be dragged out of countries that
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are producing it versus countries that are consuming. And so
while there's been some difficulty around trade over the last
three or four years with Trump especially driving tariffs, I
think that internationally it will start to settle down by
twenty thirty and the change in the American politics will
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probably see settling down and I think will continue to
see reasonably strong position around New Zealand commodities.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So it's fair to say you say that New Zealand's
looking pretty good as being an exporting nation.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
The production by twenty thirty five, which is only ten
years away, has to increase by about fifteen percent to
continue to feed the world basically, and on that basis
that would tell you that we're not producing enough internationally
and we've got to produce more. But the carbohydrate consumption
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is going to have over three hundred per person by
then in terms of middle income and that's just a
strengthening of their buying power, which will reflect and air
ability to provide commodities.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Regular treat quagmire, stalling farming? Is this all about PaperWorks
doing the obvious?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Oh look, I just had a recent experience. I'm not
mentioning the council who involved, but trying to get a
coded compliance for a particular part of a building that
was done some years ago and heading for some reason
been signed off and the bureaucracy to get simply somebody
to inspect it. Got that done took five minutes, but
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the ability to get that the documentation signed off through
a third party process that the councils now use has
just gone on for six weeks and now being told
that PERHA up to twenty days to complete this, And
I mean all it is is just saying yes, the
building is for purpose, and this is a reflection of
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what we're seeing time and time again. You know, consent
process is taken too long, and that on the basis
of that, you know, people just getting frustrated paying a
lot of money to get somewhere and not actually achieving it,
consents taking longer than nancial build which just seems to
me to be stupid.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Perhaps is the case of these councils just having to
cover their butts and going through process.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah, look at some of it will have dragged one
from the lacky building days. But the reality is the
streamlining of the ability to have uniform standard conditions across
the country hasn't been hasn't succeeded. I think that's part
of the ari May reform may may give us that,
but the reality again, we're probably looking out till twenty
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eight twenty nine before any of.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
That will be implemented.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
It's a bit like this whole local government reform. It
just seems to me to be starting to get into
a position where we're seen a bit some pieces being
considered around the edges that I thought the latest one
to need in them. Why tech you might look at
joining and then targo being the central targer on quality.
See you all being one the divity you're going to
have in some of these areas. Pree sounds a good example.
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The debt per household is twenty eight thousand. Where you
look at Central Targer District Council, the Southern District Council,
the debt per household is two thousand and so the
capacity you get some of these councilors to join together
is going to be really hard. And I just the
same as South It just doesn't seem to be a
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clear pattern as to what's going to be done. Gore
looking at going to Clufland, goodness sake, you know, I
just don't think that's going to solve anything.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Three months it doesn't seem like this is long enough
to get anything done in any way, shape or form,
especially given bureaucracy.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
There are some.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Councils collectively around New Zealand that have probably progressed this
Taranaki Wakato that would probably meet the three months deadline.
Southland should. I mean, it just seems pretty simple. But
all I've got to do is indicate what process and
what sort of design of the future council might look
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like within the ninety days. To be honest, I thought
the ninety days I should have made it sixty.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
What positives from your perspective, I suppose, Jef, do you
see it from algamations? I mean we've all heard the
figure the local elections six months ago, over two hundred
possessions worth filled and mayors unelected, and that's what really
got people grumpy.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, Look, I think.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
What people want or two things. One is a rate
base that fairly reflects the cost and therefore get out
of doing the stuff that you don't really need to do.
It's nice to have sort of mentality that's crypt into
councils over the last decade or so. And the second
is that they just want to simplified system, that is
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that when you want to get something done, it gets
done and got tied up in the bureaucracy that we
see today.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Now, you talked about those debt levels Queenstown being twenty
five k whatever it was for a household as opposed
to tea or twenty eight thousand. Sorry I was ten corrected,
But don't historical debt levels stay retained within that current
region though within that council jurisdiction.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yes they do.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
And if you looked at the reformers back in nineteen
eighty nine. That's correct what happened, But it eventually gets
them altimated. You know, you the rating on the basis
there for a period of time, but it all gets
accumulated into the problem you've got this time around, the
debt level differences between councils is much greater. I mean,
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Queenstown's is still trying to seek together the ceiling lifted.
I'm going to say it's about one hundred and eighty
percent of rates now they're wanting to shift it to
about two hundred and thirty percent of rates. So the
problem you get to is that the debtly will. You've
combined the councilors, but the ability to move in one
area geographically to get things done is still hamstrung by
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the debt that's in the household.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, it'll be interesting given Queenstown still got a lot
going on there regarding monetary ways. Just finally as well
in New Zealand. First Winston Peters indicating that New Zealand
first want to they be in z Bank from its
Australian pearance and merge it with Kiwibank, creating the National
Bank of New Zealand. Do you think this is a
good thing.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Well, I can understand ideologically from New Zealand. First, I mean,
this wouldn't be a position unusual from what they've had
before in terms of something that's nationalization of infrastructure or
key key assets in New Zealand. I think the differencey
you have with this is that it starts in to
indicate to international investors that will money invested in New
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Zealand may be at risk at some point in time
when a government decides that it wants to nationalize something.
So for that reason, I think there is some difficulty
in sort of pursuing this type of policy. The other
part of that is what is it actually going to achieve?
Because it's still going to operate commercially, it's not going
to provide necessarily a benchmark that would lower the other
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three major Australian banks, and therefore I'm not sure what
the final outcome would be.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well, can We Bank? I think it was created around
two thousand and one, so perhaps merging something. I don't know.
Winston's always going to do the patriotism card though too.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Yeah, Look, there's a good argument in terms of Kiwi
Bank to really capitalize it to a point where it
does it does become effective in terms of it's challenging
the other four, but I don't, I don't see that happening.
That requires, you know, substantial capital. While they talked about
five hundred million or something at the moment, the reality
is Kiwi Bank would need to be up around ten
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or fifteen percent of the market share before it would
start having an influence. Combining the two doesn't necessarily say
that it's going to change, because they're still going to
operate commercially and the commercial market.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Will be what the four do.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Chief Grant enjoy the sunshine this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Thanks any kitchen kick, Bavage.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Jeff Grant und everything of the thoughts they especially around
New Zealand first proposing to buy bean Z and merging
it with Kiwibanks. So it as election year after all.
Dean Rabbage is up next. Let's talk a bit of
war and positivity.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Give me one.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
The muster on the farm with Southland District Council working
together for a Beta Southland.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
We're away to Glenden this afternoon on the muster. Dean Rabbage,
she can beef farmer over that way. Dean, good afternoon,
It's been a nifty morning. Held ground conditions.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, good afternoon. Any ground conditions are pretty good. But yeah,
certainly I could warm up a little bit today. The
sort of tried to frost over this morning and then
cloud it over, so things are a bit fresh, and
extra pair of socks on to keep the COEs warm today,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
The lack of frost is still intriguing at the moment,
although they will happen.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Oh yeah, that's good though, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Like the recovery from the pets behind the ewes and
so forth as is quite promising. What it's still a
bit of regrath coming away.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
And that's so.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, we'll just take every day as it comes at
the moment. And I'd rather have it cold and cold
than cold wet. So yeah, certainly starting to get into
that winter moat and trying to conserve feed and save
a few days here and there. So yeah, it's just
impassable summer year really.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
So everything's going to the works it needs to now
you're ready for winter.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Look, in the next ten days we'll get everything. All
the lambs will be gone, and there's a few straggling
kettle going away this week as well, So yeah, in
the next ten days, we'll be down to a core
cavital stock numbers for the winter. We're just looking at
trying to get calves onto fodder beat the next couple
of days. They're just being trained behind the hot wire
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out and the pedic first, so that's always an entertaining process.
And then yeah, well we don't put any any use
or hobbits on crop until after scanning. So yeah, I've
still being a couple months on grass, so yes, it's
reasonably easy going at the moment, so but no doubt
that'll change.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So your hoggest don't go on to crop till after
scanning as well.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
No I'm saying that, sorry, The unmarked hoggits will go
on to crop just after they get sure, and we'll
share them again in three or four weeks time, and
then the hoggits that haven't been marked by the ram
we'll go on to crop and everything else will stay
off until the skin as well, and then the dry
hogits will all join up and sail and crop for
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as long as we can.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Keep them near really prioritized feed the lamb once.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, yeah, I was just about to say, because those
unmarked hoggits, you don't treat them any differently after the
season based but they didn't get into lamb No.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Look, we take a shotgun approach that everything goes to
the ram. I don't go weighing off the top two
thirds or three quarters or anything. There's no target liebait
for us. We're just being the ram ount with everything.
So yeah, they get the lab they do, and if
they don't, well there's always next year. So now there's
no real different treatment going on.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I remember speaking to you a couple of months ago, Dino,
and you were talking about your will all going away
getting sold up, the price that increase, but increase, But
all of a sudden we look at the situation. Now
we're looking at Crossbread being in the mid six dollar
range for clean. It's good to see for the for
the wool industry. But I suppose it's the case of
setting on your walls sometimes is like a game of roulette.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, it's really positive, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
And it's quite refreshing as well's always been the rock
under the beach chail for the last ten years, really
hasn't nothing no longer. So to see it coming back
up in more than covering costs and so effect it
back into the budget as a significant contributor to in
your income. It's it's quite exciting, so I'm wrong mate last,
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but yeah, look, it's just really refreshing in great to
see and I think there's gonna be a lot of
people benefit from it and years good reward for people
who have chipped away maintaining a high quality of fleece
and a high quality product over the years when there's
been a few alternatives out there to move away from it. Really.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Somebody quoted me the other day that WILL consists of
one point five percent of their profit, but sharing is
nine percent of costs as well, so that's quite a
bit to entail.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, it is in I space.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
You'd need to look at what sort of sharing consistency,
whether it are six months or twelve months sharing as well,
so that'll have an influence on that sort of data.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But yeah, I know that our last.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Financial year, the WILL income had increased by seventy five
percent and the costs had made in sharing costs had
stayed statics. So it's quite quite good and we'll just
keep your eye on things moving forward for the next
twelve months too.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But yeah, certainly pleasing.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Wynd and Rugby as well. You've had a big month there.
You guys are flying along and did one as well.
You've seen the reserve side was seen, you see. Whatever
you call it these days, I think it's fair to
say you're one club in South and that has certainly
stood out over the past couple of seasons and it
just continues.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, we're talking.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Off here about Andy and there's no know that that
one is having a really good run at the moment
and that's a real golden patch for us.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And we appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
We're pretty fortunate with the support that we've got from
the community and their great sponsors and obviously a pretty
large playing pool at the moment. Obviously being a jubilee year,
it's probably attracted a couple in and made another few
hang on for another season too. So now the challenge
for us is obviously in the next few seasons is
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to be able to maintain the player numbers and support
while we don't have a big celebration and the calendar.
So yeah, but we're just pretty pretty grateful what's going
on at the club at the moment, and it's really
cool to be sort of the focus and we have
with the community. It gives people an excuse to come
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out of the out of the hills and now the
woodwork on a Saturday afternoon to come down and socialize
and get off farm. And and you have a few
so as really really good to see full club rooms
and in a busy sideline. And I said they're better.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Thanks to always appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Cheers Emmy.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Dane Ramage based at Glennham. You're listening to the Master.
Up next, Senior Sergeant Gary Yeddington out of the Good Police.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You wait, Gord in the Tiger Blossom, Gordy in the carnival.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Welcome back. This is the Master, Senior Sergeant Gary Edington
of the Good Police. Catch us up, Gary, Good afternoon.
How's the weekend?
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, good afternoon. In good afternoon to the community. Yeah,
we're going a study weekend like we do it everywhere else.
Excuse you've got a cough. But we're doing fine.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, not too bad that we're just going into that
time of year for us is starting to occur around
the region. So I went to driving, I suppose fore
front of mine.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yep, absolutely, I mean which reminding people drive to the conditions.
It's cold out there the roads or ice over night
they're going to be skiddy, making sure your vehicles are
safe and up to date with your offs and everything,
and just be responsible driving, get there safely and get
back home safely.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
As far as do I see drink driving. I mean
there's a busy time. At the moment Passic Festival is
going on. There a great chance of a reminder whs
your playing.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
The Absolutely Like we said before, we have discussions or
a couple over the weekend, quite high readings, and what
we're just saying to people, look, you know we have
this conversations time and time again. It ain't worth it.
It affects the family, affects work, and ultimately putting yourself
and others at risk. So what we're just trying to
say to them is like, yeah, plan your nights out,
plan your lifts, and there is no excuses at all
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to be fair, and it just ends in serious consequences.
Got people trying to avoiders the rural roads, you know, trying.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
To avoid from clubs.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
And all sorts of things. But just rest rest, are
sure we are out there and we are targeting people
that are doing this sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Phone use while driving. It's something that continues to be
a bag beer.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Yep, I think. I mean you see it on a
daily basis, even when you're off duty. There people just
all asking to people as if it's that urgent pull over.
The amount of people will see heads down, texting and
they think they're okay, and then they're swerving and going
to the lanes and approaching intersections. It's just they ain't
worth it at all. You're gonna end up knocking someone
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over or killing someone.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Ultimately locking vehicles as well, just having security on the property,
especially rurals, something to keep in mind.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Yeah, we've had a few vehicle fests and we're just
asking people just to make sure that if you've got
anything valuable or anything that's identifiable, it's either taken in
with you and locked your vehicles and keep it out
of you because there's people out there unfortunately, just trying
to go around opportunists looking in.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's the same old story chick out or neighborhood watch
of it exists. So I think we've talked about this before,
but just catching up your neighbors on a regular basis,
say look them away for a couple of days, just
keep an eye on what's going on. And doing the
mail and the like. So if you're living rarely collaborating
with your neighbors and just having an extracive advice on
the traffic that's going up and down the road that
you're not used to.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Yeah, the biggest thing is just report if you see
something suspicious and it's always happened in crime at the time,
it's one one one or if you're not, then online
or crime stoppers. You know, as I said, for what
we don't know, We don't know. So it's fine if
people want to put it on social media and Facebook
and chat rooms, but if we're not being told about it,
how they expect us to investigate it.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
There's still quite a common theme unfortunately, people are going
to social media rather than do you guys.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
I think social media is an international thing really just
out there. But I want to know what's going off
in my community, that's for sure. I take a personal
responsibility for it. And it works both ways as well.
The community take responsibility as well as us. We work
together as a team.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So once again, because as that time of year, going
to your due diligence around your vehicles, you win to
checks your andy freeze, you're tired trade, make sure your
wipers are working and you can see out your window.
And as well, Mad it's not allowed to obstract the
number played either. Is that correct?
Speaker 7 (31:07):
That's that's correct.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
So I know there's a lot of gravel ruppers and
stuff out there, but and just on that as a
just as a while one about vehicles, there was a
couple of individuals at the weekend who were spoken to
by police and they had their vehicles impounded doing excess
speeds of one hundred k's in a fifty.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, he's not funny, very.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Incompetent, and very stupid and serious consequences. As we said before,
it's just not worth it having a license as a privilege.
It's not a given. And I can rest assured out
there we'll really targeting these people who think they're good
at anti social driver or trying to avoid us.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Likes the technology, the rise of AI and unfortunately a
lot of misinformation going out there and all these scammers
that are about as well, Gary, that's just an ongoing
thing unfortunately, yep.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
I mean we've still got scammers out there that are
targeting with new ideas and Whtually for every ten people
per say, the probably one person will become a victim
and that's you know, the light who said before it
then by savings, it has a huge impact on them.
The family being embarrassed and what we're saying to people,
if you do feel like you've been scammed, talk to
your banks, talk to your family, talk to your neighbors
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and try and sort it out sooner on later.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Absolutely, Hey, good on your Gary, appreciate your time. As always.
Once again those numbers crime stoppers one oh five, it's
an emergency triple one.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Yeah, no problems for thanks in and also have a
great time at the Tussic Festival this week in the core.
It's a great place.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
We canted the loves excuse yes, that does a great place.
Senior Sergeant Gary Yeddington out of the Gore Police. Up
next Jessica Black talking some really cool initiatives for secondary schools.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
Every nice.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Jess Black joins us next on the muster. She is
the Ottago Southland regional coordinator for YES, which stands for
a Young Enterprise Scheme. It's all about people in years
twelve and thirteen in secondary schools, kind of like a
dragon's den situation, putting something together and yeah, it's a
competition nationwide, I believe. So Jess is going to give
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us a bit of a rundown on what this involved
in some really cool initiatives that are underway. Jess, good
afternoon and welcome.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yeah, sure to anyhow are you going pretty good?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Can't complain blue sky in the south. It's cool and crisp.
But look, you think about young people and the way
they want to get involved with enterprise as such, this
sounds really neat.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
Yeah, it's a fantastic program Young Enterprise as a national
sort of competition run across the country. And yeah, it's
loving getting out and about and seeing all their students
just pay.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah in a nutshell, how did you get involved with it?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
How did it come to fruition?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:05):
So I've recently come on board as the coordinator looking
after Otago's Southend's just been in the role a couple
of months. I was actually a youth student myself about
maybe about twelve years ago now, so we've been through
the program, understand what it's like being in the student's
role and now I'm year back on board with the
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stuff and helping to see these young people thrive.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
So this has been going for a while obviously.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
Yes, yes, Young Enterprise is actually celebrating forty five years
this year. Well there you go, yeah, which is pretty cool.
We've got a you know, it's definitely had a what
we say, yes effect. There are a lot of people
who resonate with Young Enterprise and the impact it's had
on their lives. So yeah, that impact continues.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So coincidentally, what were you doing for the part when.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
You did that?
Speaker 8 (35:01):
Oh gosh, I don't seem nearly as clever of those
young people now, but I had a couple of products
and cool teens. The first year was a liquid seaweed
concentrate for your garden. That was pretty stinky in the
back shed, but that was awesome. We made it to
nationals with that, representing Southland. And then the year after
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that was a gift box, a personalized gift box. We
called it Sender Smile. But yeah, no, compared to what
these young people are doing now the embarrassing to be honest,
but all all great learnings for me.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
So there's great buy and by Southern Regent, by Southern
secondary schools, particularly amongst the rural.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
FuG Yes, yeah, absolutely, we've got four schools that are
participating in the program this year up at the College
Dutain Boys High Dan Targus and Saint Peter's College in Gormer,
and many of those schools have a rural bent, you know.
The young people come in and they're full of ideas
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of challenges and opportunities that they see in their rural life.
So yeah, it's incredible seeing how that translates into the
businesses they come up with.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And I'm just looking at what's what they've done this year.
For example, you're talking eel pesse, a bird nesting strategy
to stop birds getting inside the tractor in springtime. So
I suppose you've got to be involved with your sector.
Do you understand what they're talking about? But yet again
you've got to think outside the square as to what
you think is going to work on the farm.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
Oh absolutely, yeah, No, the ideas that these teams have
come up with are incredible. Here we have a couple
of standouts I think from the rural kind of sphere
and those two teams you mentioned here, we've got million
from the Lost Larderites developing an el pet, which is
a really unique product because she's in there a second
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year of the challenge, So yeah, she's really all about
the Southland food scene and bring a unique products from
the farm to the plate. It's pretty cool. And then
no mis tech. They are developing a product that goes
within your tractor cad or inside the engine bay of
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your tractor to scare off birds. So all fantastic ideas
and products that are these young people got under development
solving real challenges for an opportunities for farming.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
So how many of these ideas do you actually go
through to the production stage if that's required.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
Yeah, most teams, so they complete a series of four
sort of challenges through yes, and the first one around sales.
So the first one is around their business ideas validating
that second one they go to Mendia pitch is third
one is sales and marketing, and the fourth one isn't
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in your review sort of it's a really condensed period
of time for them running their business. You know, it's
only a school year. Some of them do go beyond that.
They definitely want to scale, so most of them get
to that production, basic sales in marketing by about term
three and those who don't, you know, they had pretty
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grand visions for their company. So they're on a big, big,
dreaming brig scale, and so sometimes we'll see them produce
at a small scale, do local sales, pre sales, and
then they'll get up to a you know, actually mass
producing and getting into the full business structure. And we
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love seeing them take that from just you know, running
a business at high school to actually being a young entrepreneur.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Can you name of anything off the top of your
head the week? And that's actually go a mess production,
they'll commonplace question.
Speaker 8 (39:01):
We've had some local actually a good local example of
that was a young team from Southland. They were Upadhem
a college and they won nationals a couple of years back,
and they have a sort of tree plianting business which
is possibly quite handy you know after a storm damage
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around the place. But I've heard that they've done in
the hundreds of thousands of dollars of sales and they
continue to run their business while attending university.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
So yeah, so this is bringing agribusiness into the mainstream
more or less for these students.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah. It's a cool way for them
to take, as you say, you know, a challenge or
an opportunity they see and translate that into the class
into a real world business scenario. You know, they really
have to test their idea. But it is a perfect
(40:03):
combination for business, egro business and just getting that kind
of great entrepreneurial experience.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, it's good, fascinating. I just finally, if people want
to learn more about what's going on, where do they kid?
Where do they go to?
Speaker 8 (40:18):
Yeah, if you're keen to follow along and hear more
about the Young Enterprise program, google Young Enterprise, Yes and
he along to this website is a little bit more
about the program. There. That's sort of the best way
to follow along.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Jess Black Atago South and regional coordinator for the Young
Enterprise Scheme. Thanks your time on the muster. Some really
cool space, some really cool things happening in the secondary
schooling space for students regarding agriculture. Thanks to your time.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
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janetis welcome along after an action packed weekend. I mean
you go back to last night NRL the Warriors, the
jaggernaut that is in New Zealand Warriors at the moment,
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building up thementum, looking at the main railway line out
here and just looking at everybody getting on the bandwagon
as it heads north. So yeah, we're just magic crowns.
A great concept they do in the NRL. Obviously it's
what they based Super Round off for Super rugby, but
they just do it so well. They're in Brisbane and
yeah the Highlanders gonna get the business done. But the
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Steel continue along as well, top of the table of
the A n Z Premiership and as well these these
contracts for Lamb, like Jamie's speaking to Tom Young from
FCO previously getting up towards a twelve dollar mark for springs,
So a lot of goals being kicked there. Regating red
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Monday afternoon see sunshine with calm, variable winds and a
high of ten. Tuesday cloud you have calm, variable winds
zero and eleven Brinson repeat for Wednesday. The temperature is
just a little bit warmer five and twelve. Thursday morning
shells of breezy westerly six and twelve and on Friday
scattered showers with like westerly six and twelve. So are
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temperatures to hand Clinton eight point five, Herriots six point seven,
Northern Southland eight point one, Riverton ten point four, Tana
nine point one, tinder Row and nine, Winton seven point
three and Woodland's eight point three of John Pembleton. Starting
us off from the Sergeant Den farming ground up based
(02:08):
meansi's ferry soon to be based out of Brighton. Jeff
Grant talks politics quite a bit going on in that landscape.
It's evolving almost by the hour at the moment. Dean
Ravage farming at glenarm Locks of the renaissance of wool
based on that sale out of christ Church last Thursday.
Certainly not where it needs to be, don't get me wrong,
(02:28):
but certainly it's a step in the right direction. Senior
Sergeant Gary Yeddenden of the Cool Police talks policing matters,
and Jessica Black talks about Southern secondary schools and an
entrepreneuriship scheme that's going on there as well, which sounds
really interesting. But we'll start the hour next with John Pembleton.
This is the Muster. It's brought to you by Peters Genetics.
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Seven after one.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Feeling like some.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It means he's fairy and soon to be brighter. Will
we catch up with John Pemmerdon and the sageant dan
Farming ground up, thanks of course to Sergeant Dan Stock
Foods based here in good John. Good afternoon, a bit
of blue sky about finally.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, it's been pretty good week to be fair, apart
from a bit of fog. It's, you know, sort of
about nine o'clock at night, you expecting a frost to
roll in in the early hours and you get up
and there's a slight northerly breeze. So I was sort
of winning at the Moment's great because.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You're pretty busy there. You've got a bit going on.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, I got my enough of report into that's one
last thing to do, which is quite good for got
that in a bit over a month ago. So that's
that's ticked off a year. Look, we're just transitioning between
the two farms, out of one expanding the other one
finishing off. The kew shed just moved last week. We
just under lost old block locally at Brighton now, which
(03:53):
is quite good. So yeah, given another month hopefully things.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Will be settled down.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So when do you look at dry off?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
We did.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We did ninety lot cares this morning they've gone off
to grazing, and then we get through all the sale
cares out of the least property in the last sort
of ten days week of May, and then into June
we start and we start going through the the what's
the rest of the remainder of the herd gets right off.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So yeah, just just sort.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Of not trying to jam too much into one week.
Really sort of the plan at the stage.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
How would you rate the season out of ten?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Pretty good? I think I think we got to the
November I would have told you it was pretty rubbish
because actually this November been was actually worse than the
previous one, but we didn't have any floods. Now for
us not to have a flood has been since twenty twenty,
they've been pretty damn regular and not one this year.
We can the stress the management of having to deal
(04:57):
with that and not having that has been fantastic. So yeah,
she's certainly up the other season it's been. There has
been a great season. We just opened their side stick
on the the week en after duck, the week after
duck shooting, so for us, it's that's pretty late to
be opening a side stick for in May for the autumn.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So yeah, no real complaints. To be fair, it's been
a goodie.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, let's be honest. You're opening the silent stick that
at the same time people are putting silas into the stick.
It seems we've been done later and later.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, well look I think March April's better than February
and Mark's better than January, so we're the wise. So
it does feel like then in Kennedy that are still
doing soilids and I've been pushing into May for a
number of years now silad, So it does feel like
the seasons are altering. But it feels like everything's a
bit about a month later than what it used to be.
(05:53):
You know, springs are turning up pretty late, pretty tough Novembers. Yeah,
so it does sort of heave your sort of thinking,
how do you plan the season going forward?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Now Enough field report has been released and feedback has
been pretty positive.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yep, yeah, no, it's good God conversations over it. And
I don't make any apologies for steering, the steering, the
washtonest on it. The whole point of enough in order
to challenge people thinking and try and look for solutions.
So I think I've delivered on that.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
We've got the biannual Enough your conference happening in November
down a numb the cargo, so that will be where
we used delivery of reports before Enough Fielders, So there
will sort of be a bit of a platform for
it should be good.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, I suppose when you look on twelve months from
where you were and is there anything you would have
done differently you think regarding your travels.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I got pretty lucky apart from those winds turning out
when I was over in Europe, Evening has been pretty
pretty smoothly and you look at you know what's happening
the world. Now my been a bit more challenging. So no,
I got pretty lucky with everything we sort of ticked off.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah you could. You could travel for.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
A lot and certainly when I came home a number
of times, it could have quite easily just carried on
because you're just getting into more and more interesting people,
right and projects that were happening overseas. So yeah, could
have could have done a lot more. But I think
it certainly got enough done to take the boxes.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You'd encourage people to get involved enough for your scholarship
scheme as such.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, absolutely, the rule leadership, these rule leaders there's a
Kellogg program and in obviously enough Field and also another
program I speak I think very highly of as the
Valley Change, which is a very limited number each year
that any one can apply. There's a reasonable fee attached
to it, but it's the value get out. It's fantastic
(07:57):
when you go through the North Island and look at
the the start to finish of each supply chain of horticulture,
red meat and dairy in New Zealand, and it's not
so much around understanding the complex detail of it, but
more is getting hit around the how and why and
(08:17):
what when you go to another country, understanding why they
operate the way they do. I think it just gives
you a really good at training for an ability of
a lot of especially doing enough that when you're gain
into countries to do reports sort of get you in
the right frame of mind to how the analyze things,
to sort of cut through a lot of the noise
to get to the crux of what they're doing pretty
(08:38):
quickly so that they realy change on the north are
I think is really valuable.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Your report was based on reputation versus reality in New
Zealand searching for a North Star all about New Zealand's
fresh water crisis not being science or technology problem wise,
but an institutional one. So certainly, like you say, stirring
up a few regarding a conversation, yeah, I think, and
(09:04):
I think he's ones read that conversation.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
We've got governments at ying yan all over the show,
and it's comes at quite a cost industry and environment,
and I think we just need to find a pathway where,
especially with the raw sector, if we can be far
more cohesive around where we're heading, what we're trying to
achieve we could certainly have make improvements in the environment
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of not having costly swings at local in central government
and the ever imputt and how that locks and also
how does a sector work with the science have provided.
So yeah, I think there's a lot of food for
thought that that's for sure. And yeah, and you're really
just sort of getting into the conversation that we're actually
hosting a field down their property at Brighton on the
(09:52):
nineteenth of June during z partnered up with us and
part of that day is sort of looking at how
do we integrate or do the extinction through the science
that we're working with in New Zealand. When it comes
to farm systems.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
If people one of you your report, John, can they
find it online?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, just go to the Rule Leaders website and they'll
take you to all the all the Nuffield scholarship papers
that have been written in reports, you know, right back
to the to the fifties, so all that information is there.
So lock, there's a lot of reading and look, there's
an executive summary, will you give a good overall for
(10:34):
most people, but it as well worth while going into
those reports and you know, if you can put a
timing he hands to flip through thirty forty pages. It
gives a how a lot of context is to the
executive summary.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Thanks to your time as always, John, to enjoy the other.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Cheers, edite you ever go on? Mate? Really luck.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
John Pemaden always good to catch up as we do.
Of course that are seeks so Sage and dan Stock
Foods based here in Gore. Jeff Grant is up next
talking politics.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
As mad in Jersey years Gordon Granbian.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Welcome back to the muster. Jeff Grants joins US Northern
Southland farmer business owner and is involved in many committees
and continues to do so. Good afternoon, Jeff.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
How are you good?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Andy?
Speaker 6 (11:22):
And nice to be getting into the second part of
May and the ground condition is still pretty good.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Quite a bit going on in the political landscape at
the moment, but we'll start off of this. The OECD
reporters out talking about increasing production and cross border trade
moving this out to twenty thirty four. So it's all
about upping amping production, would you say, yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Look, I think the interesting thing these reports are the
sort of predictions and so you can never guarantee what
might happen. But the cross border trade in the world
has increased over the last twenty years, and so seventeen
percent of everything that's producers now traded costs nations, but
they're predicting it's going to get out to twenty two
percent by twenty thirty four. And that is just a
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reflection that the increase in productivity in agriculture doesn't necessarily
happen in the countries that are consuming the product, and
so a good sign for New Zealand because it just
means there will be increasing demand for carbohydrates, protein and
that will continue to be dragged out of countries that
(12:29):
are producing it versus countries that are consuming. And so
while there's been some difficulty around trade over the last
three or four years with Trump especially driving tariffs, I
think that internationally it will start to settle down by
twenty thirty and the change in the American politics will
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probably see settling down and I think will continue to
see reasonably strong position around New Zealand commodities.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So it's fair to say you say that New Zealand's
looking pretty good as being an exporting nation.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
The production by twenty thirty five, which is only ten
years away, has to increase by about fifteen percent to
continue to feed the world basically, and on that basis
that would tell you that we're not producing enough internationally
and we've got to produce more. But the carbohydrate consumption
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is going to have over three hundred per person by
then in terms of middle income and that's just a
strengthening of their buying power, which will reflect and air
ability to provide commodities.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Regular treat quagmire, stalling farming? Is this all about PaperWorks
doing the obvious?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Oh look, I just had a recent experience. I'm not
mentioning the council who involved, but trying to get a
coded compliance for a particular part of a building that
was done some years ago and heading for some reason
been signed off and the bureaucracy to get simply somebody
to inspect it. Got that done took five minutes, but
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the ability to get that the documentation signed off through
a third party process that the councils now use has
just gone on for six weeks and now being told
that PERHA up to twenty days to complete this, And
I mean all it is is just saying yes, the
building is for purpose, and this is a reflection of
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what we're seeing time and time again. You know, consent
process is taken too long, and that on the basis
of that, you know, people just getting frustrated paying a
lot of money to get somewhere and not actually achieving it,
consents taking longer than nancial build which just seems to
me to be stupid.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Perhaps is the case of these councils just having to
cover their butts and going through process.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Yeah, look at some of it will have dragged one
from the lacky building days. But the reality is the
streamlining of the ability to have uniform standard conditions across
the country hasn't been hasn't succeeded. I think that's part
of the ari May reform may may give us that,
but the reality again, we're probably looking out till twenty
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eight twenty nine before any of.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
That will be implemented.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
It's a bit like this whole local government reform. It
just seems to me to be starting to get into
a position where we're seen a bit some pieces being
considered around the edges that I thought the latest one
to need in them. Why tech you might look at
joining and then targo being the central targer on quality.
See you all being one the divity you're going to
have in some of these areas. Pree sounds a good example.
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The debt per household is twenty eight thousand. Where you
look at Central Targer District Council, the Southern District Council,
the debt per household is two thousand and so the
capacity you get some of these councilors to join together
is going to be really hard. And I just the
same as South It just doesn't seem to be a
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clear pattern as to what's going to be done. Gore
looking at going to Clufland, goodness sake, you know, I
just don't think that's going to solve anything.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Three months it doesn't seem like this is long enough
to get anything done in any way, shape or form,
especially given bureaucracy.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
There are some.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Councils collectively around New Zealand that have probably progressed this
Taranaki Wakato that would probably meet the three months deadline.
Southland should. I mean, it just seems pretty simple. But
all I've got to do is indicate what process and
what sort of design of the future council might look
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like within the ninety days. To be honest, I thought
the ninety days I should have made it sixty.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
What positives from your perspective, I suppose, Jef, do you
see it from algamations? I mean we've all heard the
figure the local elections six months ago, over two hundred
possessions worth filled and mayors unelected, and that's what really
got people grumpy.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, Look, I think.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
What people want or two things. One is a rate
base that fairly reflects the cost and therefore get out
of doing the stuff that you don't really need to do.
It's nice to have sort of mentality that's crypt into
councils over the last decade or so. And the second
is that they just want to simplified system, that is
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that when you want to get something done, it gets
done and got tied up in the bureaucracy that we
see today.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Now, you talked about those debt levels Queenstown being twenty
five k whatever it was for a household as opposed
to tea or twenty eight thousand. Sorry I was ten corrected,
But don't historical debt levels stay retained within that current
region though within that council jurisdiction.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yes they do.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
And if you looked at the reformers back in nineteen
eighty nine. That's correct what happened, But it eventually gets
them altimated. You know, you the rating on the basis
there for a period of time, but it all gets
accumulated into the problem you've got this time around, the
debt level differences between councils is much greater. I mean,
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Queenstown's is still trying to seek together the ceiling lifted.
I'm going to say it's about one hundred and eighty
percent of rates now they're wanting to shift it to
about two hundred and thirty percent of rates. So the
problem you get to is that the debtly will. You've
combined the councilors, but the ability to move in one
area geographically to get things done is still hamstrung by
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the debt that's in the household.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, it'll be interesting given Queenstown still got a lot
going on there regarding monetary ways. Just finally as well
in New Zealand. First Winston Peters indicating that New Zealand
first want to they be in z Bank from its
Australian pearance and merge it with Kiwibank, creating the National
Bank of New Zealand. Do you think this is a
good thing.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Well, I can understand ideologically from New Zealand. First, I mean,
this wouldn't be a position unusual from what they've had
before in terms of something that's nationalization of infrastructure or
key key assets in New Zealand. I think the differencey
you have with this is that it starts in to
indicate to international investors that will money invested in New
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Zealand may be at risk at some point in time
when a government decides that it wants to nationalize something.
So for that reason, I think there is some difficulty
in sort of pursuing this type of policy. The other
part of that is what is it actually going to achieve?
Because it's still going to operate commercially, it's not going
to provide necessarily a benchmark that would lower the other
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three major Australian banks, and therefore I'm not sure what
the final outcome would be.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well, can We Bank? I think it was created around
two thousand and one, so perhaps merging something. I don't know.
Winston's always going to do the patriotism card though too.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Yeah, Look, there's a good argument in terms of Kiwi
Bank to really capitalize it to a point where it
does it does become effective in terms of it's challenging
the other four, but I don't, I don't see that happening.
That requires, you know, substantial capital. While they talked about
five hundred million or something at the moment, the reality
is Kiwi Bank would need to be up around ten
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or fifteen percent of the market share before it would
start having an influence. Combining the two doesn't necessarily say
that it's going to change, because they're still going to
operate commercially and the commercial market.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Will be what the four do.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Chief Grant enjoy the sunshine this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Thanks any kitchen kick, Bavage.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Jeff Grant und everything of the thoughts they especially around
New Zealand first proposing to buy bean Z and merging
it with Kiwibanks. So it as election year after all.
Dean Rabbage is up next. Let's talk a bit of
war and positivity.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Give me one.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
The muster on the farm with Southland District Council working
together for a Beta Southland.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
We're away to Glenden this afternoon on the muster. Dean Rabbage,
she can beef farmer over that way. Dean, good afternoon,
It's been a nifty morning. Held ground conditions.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, good afternoon. Any ground conditions are pretty good. But yeah,
certainly I could warm up a little bit today. The
sort of tried to frost over this morning and then
cloud it over, so things are a bit fresh, and
extra pair of socks on to keep the COEs warm today,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
The lack of frost is still intriguing at the moment,
although they will happen.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Oh yeah, that's good though, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Like the recovery from the pets behind the ewes and
so forth as is quite promising. What it's still a
bit of regrath coming away.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
And that's so.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, we'll just take every day as it comes at
the moment. And I'd rather have it cold and cold
than cold wet. So yeah, certainly starting to get into
that winter moat and trying to conserve feed and save
a few days here and there. So yeah, it's just
impassable summer year really.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
So everything's going to the works it needs to now
you're ready for winter.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Look, in the next ten days we'll get everything. All
the lambs will be gone, and there's a few straggling
kettle going away this week as well, So yeah, in
the next ten days, we'll be down to a core
cavital stock numbers for the winter. We're just looking at
trying to get calves onto fodder beat the next couple
of days. They're just being trained behind the hot wire
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out and the pedic first, so that's always an entertaining process.
And then yeah, well we don't put any any use
or hobbits on crop until after scanning. So yeah, I've
still being a couple months on grass, so yes, it's
reasonably easy going at the moment, so but no doubt
that'll change.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
So your hoggest don't go on to crop till after
scanning as well.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
No I'm saying that, sorry, The unmarked hoggits will go
on to crop just after they get sure, and we'll
share them again in three or four weeks time, and
then the hoggits that haven't been marked by the ram
we'll go on to crop and everything else will stay
off until the skin as well, and then the dry
hogits will all join up and sail and crop for
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as long as we can.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Keep them near really prioritized feed the lamb once.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, yeah, I was just about to say, because those
unmarked hoggits, you don't treat them any differently after the
season based but they didn't get into lamb No.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Look, we take a shotgun approach that everything goes to
the ram. I don't go weighing off the top two
thirds or three quarters or anything. There's no target liebait
for us. We're just being the ram ount with everything.
So yeah, they get the lab they do, and if
they don't, well there's always next year. So now there's
no real different treatment going on.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I remember speaking to you a couple of months ago, Dino,
and you were talking about your will all going away
getting sold up, the price that increase, but increase, But
all of a sudden we look at the situation. Now
we're looking at Crossbread being in the mid six dollar
range for clean. It's good to see for the for
the wool industry. But I suppose it's the case of
setting on your walls sometimes is like a game of roulette.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, it's really positive, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
And it's quite refreshing as well's always been the rock
under the beach chail for the last ten years, really
hasn't nothing no longer. So to see it coming back
up in more than covering costs and so effect it
back into the budget as a significant contributor to in
your income. It's it's quite exciting, so I'm wrong mate last,
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but yeah, look, it's just really refreshing in great to
see and I think there's gonna be a lot of
people benefit from it and years good reward for people
who have chipped away maintaining a high quality of fleece
and a high quality product over the years when there's
been a few alternatives out there to move away from it. Really.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Somebody quoted me the other day that WILL consists of
one point five percent of their profit, but sharing is
nine percent of costs as well, so that's quite a
bit to entail.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, it is in I space.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
You'd need to look at what sort of sharing consistency,
whether it are six months or twelve months sharing as well,
so that'll have an influence on that sort of data.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But yeah, I know that our last.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Financial year, the WILL income had increased by seventy five
percent and the costs had made in sharing costs had
stayed statics. So it's quite quite good and we'll just
keep your eye on things moving forward for the next
twelve months too.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But yeah, certainly pleasing.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Wynd and Rugby as well. You've had a big month there.
You guys are flying along and did one as well.
You've seen the reserve side was seen, you see. Whatever
you call it these days, I think it's fair to
say you're one club in South and that has certainly
stood out over the past couple of seasons and it
just continues.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, we're talking.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Off here about Andy and there's no know that that
one is having a really good run at the moment
and that's a real golden patch for us.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And we appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
We're pretty fortunate with the support that we've got from
the community and their great sponsors and obviously a pretty
large playing pool at the moment. Obviously being a jubilee year,
it's probably attracted a couple in and made another few
hang on for another season too. So now the challenge
for us is obviously in the next few seasons is
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to be able to maintain the player numbers and support
while we don't have a big celebration and the calendar.
So yeah, but we're just pretty pretty grateful what's going
on at the club at the moment, and it's really
cool to be sort of the focus and we have
with the community. It gives people an excuse to come
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out of the out of the hills and now the
woodwork on a Saturday afternoon to come down and socialize
and get off farm. And and you have a few
so as really really good to see full club rooms
and in a busy sideline. And I said they're better.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Thanks to always appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Cheers Emmy.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Dane Ramage based at Glennham. You're listening to the Master.
Up next, Senior Sergeant Gary Yeddington out of the Good Police.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You wait, Gord in the Tiger Blossom, Gordy in the carnival.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Welcome back. This is the Master, Senior Sergeant Gary Edington
of the Good Police. Catch us up, Gary, Good afternoon.
How's the weekend?
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, good afternoon. In good afternoon to the community. Yeah,
we're going a study weekend like we do it everywhere else.
Excuse you've got a cough. But we're doing fine.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, not too bad that we're just going into that
time of year for us is starting to occur around
the region. So I went to driving, I suppose fore
front of mine.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yep, absolutely, I mean which reminding people drive to the conditions.
It's cold out there the roads or ice over night
they're going to be skiddy, making sure your vehicles are
safe and up to date with your offs and everything,
and just be responsible driving, get there safely and get
back home safely.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
As far as do I see drink driving. I mean
there's a busy time. At the moment Passic Festival is
going on. There a great chance of a reminder whs
your playing.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
The Absolutely Like we said before, we have discussions or
a couple over the weekend, quite high readings, and what
we're just saying to people, look, you know we have
this conversations time and time again. It ain't worth it.
It affects the family, affects work, and ultimately putting yourself
and others at risk. So what we're just trying to
say to them is like, yeah, plan your nights out,
plan your lifts, and there is no excuses at all
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to be fair, and it just ends in serious consequences.
Got people trying to avoiders the rural roads, you know, trying.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
To avoid from clubs.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
And all sorts of things. But just rest rest, are
sure we are out there and we are targeting people
that are doing this sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Phone use while driving. It's something that continues to be
a bag beer.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Yep, I think. I mean you see it on a
daily basis, even when you're off duty. There people just
all asking to people as if it's that urgent pull over.
The amount of people will see heads down, texting and
they think they're okay, and then they're swerving and going
to the lanes and approaching intersections. It's just they ain't
worth it at all. You're gonna end up knocking someone
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over or killing someone.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Ultimately locking vehicles as well, just having security on the property,
especially rurals, something to keep in mind.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Yeah, we've had a few vehicle fests and we're just
asking people just to make sure that if you've got
anything valuable or anything that's identifiable, it's either taken in
with you and locked your vehicles and keep it out
of you because there's people out there unfortunately, just trying
to go around opportunists looking in.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's the same old story chick out or neighborhood watch
of it exists. So I think we've talked about this before,
but just catching up your neighbors on a regular basis,
say look them away for a couple of days, just
keep an eye on what's going on. And doing the
mail and the like. So if you're living rarely collaborating
with your neighbors and just having an extracive advice on
the traffic that's going up and down the road that
you're not used to.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Yeah, the biggest thing is just report if you see
something suspicious and it's always happened in crime at the time,
it's one one one or if you're not, then online
or crime stoppers. You know, as I said, for what
we don't know, We don't know. So it's fine if
people want to put it on social media and Facebook
and chat rooms, but if we're not being told about it,
how they expect us to investigate it.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
There's still quite a common theme unfortunately, people are going
to social media rather than do you guys.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
I think social media is an international thing really just
out there. But I want to know what's going off
in my community, that's for sure. I take a personal
responsibility for it. And it works both ways as well.
The community take responsibility as well as us. We work
together as a team.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So once again, because as that time of year, going
to your due diligence around your vehicles, you win to
checks your andy freeze, you're tired trade, make sure your
wipers are working and you can see out your window.
And as well, Mad it's not allowed to obstract the
number played either. Is that correct?
Speaker 7 (31:07):
That's that's correct.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
So I know there's a lot of gravel ruppers and
stuff out there, but and just on that as a
just as a while one about vehicles, there was a
couple of individuals at the weekend who were spoken to
by police and they had their vehicles impounded doing excess
speeds of one hundred k's in a fifty.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, he's not funny, very.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Incompetent, and very stupid and serious consequences. As we said before,
it's just not worth it having a license as a privilege.
It's not a given. And I can rest assured out
there we'll really targeting these people who think they're good
at anti social driver or trying to avoid us.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Likes the technology, the rise of AI and unfortunately a
lot of misinformation going out there and all these scammers
that are about as well, Gary, that's just an ongoing
thing unfortunately, yep.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
I mean we've still got scammers out there that are
targeting with new ideas and Whtually for every ten people
per say, the probably one person will become a victim
and that's you know, the light who said before it
then by savings, it has a huge impact on them.
The family being embarrassed and what we're saying to people,
if you do feel like you've been scammed, talk to
your banks, talk to your family, talk to your neighbors
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and try and sort it out sooner on later.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Absolutely, Hey, good on your Gary, appreciate your time. As always.
Once again those numbers crime stoppers one oh five, it's
an emergency triple one.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Yeah, no problems for thanks in and also have a
great time at the Tussic Festival this week in the core.
It's a great place.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
We canted the loves excuse yes, that does a great place.
Senior Sergeant Gary Yeddington out of the Gore Police. Up
next Jessica Black talking some really cool initiatives for secondary schools.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
Every nice.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Jess Black joins us next on the muster. She is
the Ottago Southland regional coordinator for YES, which stands for
a Young Enterprise Scheme. It's all about people in years
twelve and thirteen in secondary schools, kind of like a
dragon's den situation, putting something together and yeah, it's a
competition nationwide, I believe. So Jess is going to give
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us a bit of a rundown on what this involved
in some really cool initiatives that are underway. Jess, good
afternoon and welcome.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yeah, sure to anyhow are you going pretty good?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Can't complain blue sky in the south. It's cool and crisp.
But look, you think about young people and the way
they want to get involved with enterprise as such, this
sounds really neat.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
Yeah, it's a fantastic program Young Enterprise as a national
sort of competition run across the country. And yeah, it's
loving getting out and about and seeing all their students
just pay.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah in a nutshell, how did you get involved with it?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
How did it come to fruition?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:05):
So I've recently come on board as the coordinator looking
after Otago's Southend's just been in the role a couple
of months. I was actually a youth student myself about
maybe about twelve years ago now, so we've been through
the program, understand what it's like being in the student's
role and now I'm year back on board with the
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stuff and helping to see these young people thrive.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
So this has been going for a while obviously.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
Yes, yes, Young Enterprise is actually celebrating forty five years
this year. Well there you go, yeah, which is pretty cool.
We've got a you know, it's definitely had a what
we say, yes effect. There are a lot of people
who resonate with Young Enterprise and the impact it's had
on their lives. So yeah, that impact continues.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So coincidentally, what were you doing for the part when.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
You did that?
Speaker 8 (35:01):
Oh gosh, I don't seem nearly as clever of those
young people now, but I had a couple of products
and cool teens. The first year was a liquid seaweed
concentrate for your garden. That was pretty stinky in the
back shed, but that was awesome. We made it to
nationals with that, representing Southland. And then the year after
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that was a gift box, a personalized gift box. We
called it Sender Smile. But yeah, no, compared to what
these young people are doing now the embarrassing to be honest,
but all all great learnings for me.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
So there's great buy and by Southern Regent, by Southern
secondary schools, particularly amongst the rural.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
FuG Yes, yeah, absolutely, we've got four schools that are
participating in the program this year up at the College
Dutain Boys High Dan Targus and Saint Peter's College in Gormer,
and many of those schools have a rural bent, you know.
The young people come in and they're full of ideas
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of challenges and opportunities that they see in their rural life.
So yeah, it's incredible seeing how that translates into the
businesses they come up with.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
And I'm just looking at what's what they've done this year.
For example, you're talking eel pesse, a bird nesting strategy
to stop birds getting inside the tractor in springtime. So
I suppose you've got to be involved with your sector.
Do you understand what they're talking about? But yet again
you've got to think outside the square as to what
you think is going to work on the farm.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
Oh absolutely, yeah, No, the ideas that these teams have
come up with are incredible. Here we have a couple
of standouts I think from the rural kind of sphere
and those two teams you mentioned here, we've got million
from the Lost Larderites developing an el pet, which is
a really unique product because she's in there a second
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year of the challenge, So yeah, she's really all about
the Southland food scene and bring a unique products from
the farm to the plate. It's pretty cool. And then
no mis tech. They are developing a product that goes
within your tractor cad or inside the engine bay of
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your tractor to scare off birds. So all fantastic ideas
and products that are these young people got under development
solving real challenges for an opportunities for farming.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
So how many of these ideas do you actually go
through to the production stage if that's required.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
Yeah, most teams, so they complete a series of four
sort of challenges through yes, and the first one around sales.
So the first one is around their business ideas validating
that second one they go to Mendia pitch is third
one is sales and marketing, and the fourth one isn't
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in your review sort of it's a really condensed period
of time for them running their business. You know, it's
only a school year. Some of them do go beyond that.
They definitely want to scale, so most of them get
to that production, basic sales in marketing by about term
three and those who don't, you know, they had pretty
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grand visions for their company. So they're on a big, big,
dreaming brig scale, and so sometimes we'll see them produce
at a small scale, do local sales, pre sales, and
then they'll get up to a you know, actually mass
producing and getting into the full business structure. And we
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love seeing them take that from just you know, running
a business at high school to actually being a young entrepreneur.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Can you name of anything off the top of your
head the week? And that's actually go a mess production,
they'll commonplace question.
Speaker 8 (39:01):
We've had some local actually a good local example of
that was a young team from Southland. They were Upadhem
a college and they won nationals a couple of years back,
and they have a sort of tree plianting business which
is possibly quite handy you know after a storm damage
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around the place. But I've heard that they've done in
the hundreds of thousands of dollars of sales and they
continue to run their business while attending university.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
So yeah, so this is bringing agribusiness into the mainstream
more or less for these students.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah. It's a cool way for them
to take, as you say, you know, a challenge or
an opportunity they see and translate that into the class
into a real world business scenario. You know, they really
have to test their idea. But it is a perfect
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combination for business, egro business and just getting that kind
of great entrepreneurial experience.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah, it's good, fascinating. I just finally, if people want
to learn more about what's going on, where do they kid?
Where do they go to?
Speaker 8 (40:18):
Yeah, if you're keen to follow along and hear more
about the Young Enterprise program, google Young Enterprise, Yes and
he along to this website is a little bit more
about the program. There. That's sort of the best way
to follow along.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Jess Black Atago South and regional coordinator for the Young
Enterprise Scheme. Thanks your time on the muster. Some really
cool space, some really cool things happening in the secondary
schooling space for students regarding agriculture. Thanks to your time.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Thanks Eddie, laugh out loud with ag proud because life
on the land can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Brought to us by sheer Well data working to help
the livestock farmer. So a lady goes to the dentist
and asks how much you pulled to wisdom teeth. Dentist
says five hundred bucks. She replies us too much. Can't
you do it for less? The dentist says, I can
do it for two hundred and fifty if I skip
the anesthetics. Still too much. Can you do it any cheaper?
So the Needa just keeps going on. I can let
(41:19):
my trainee do it for fifty bucks, but she's never
pulled a tooth before and it's going to be painful. Perfect,
the woman says, schedule my husband for next week and
we'll leave it there for the afternoon. The podcast will
be app surely. I'm Andy Muller. The Muster is brought
to you by Peter's Genetics. Joy the Afternoon see tomar
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