January 18, 2026 • 44 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jamie King, Joseph Mooney, Dean Rabbidge, Fraser Darling and Jason Pine.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
N plan.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
There's a wig up breach juice to morning.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome margin ben.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
J good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokinnui.
Andy meey here until two o'clock and the show has
brought to you by Peters to you so appreciate you company.
I hope the weekend was a good one. I'll be honest.
I watched a lot of cricket out there at Hamilton Park.
It's t twenty in Southland. Cricket oh has been last
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weekend anyway, So the Kuei the Bees had a couple
of games on Saturday and in the A's yesterday against
him Vercable Old Boys and on rather sunburrant, so that's
my issue. Theps Bank tour Southland as well, concluding the
latest stage and to Gore very shortly, so just be
aware that there are a few changes to the roads
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around Gore over the next hour and a half or
so anyway, so just be weary if you're coming into town.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Music for a Monday.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
John bon Jovi or better off known better known as
bon Job, although he did a lot of songs as
John bon Jovi as well.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Just to complicate it, Pokanui's five day forecast with twin
farm teff from and soft text. The proof is in
the progeny teff from dot co dot inzead.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
This afternoon the talking partly cloudy skies of breezy easterlies
and twenty two. That's the theme for the week. Tuesday
and Wednesday, rinse and repeat. Partly cloudy with breezy easterlyes
Tomorrow seven and twenty, Wednesdays ten and twenty five, Thursday,
mostly cloudy with breezy easterly twelve and twenty three, and
Friday getting cooler light Raymard breeze South Easterly's eight and
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fifteen sold temperatures to hand Clinton fourteen point seven, Northern
South and fifteen point three, Rivertons sixteen, Towne fifteen point
six and Winton fourteen point one.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I forget Woodland's fourteen point eight.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Jamie King of Lake Heroco starts us off for a
Monday afternoon, followed up by local MP Joseph Mooney.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Not quite Parliament time that starts next week.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
This week the know the nets are getting together up
in christ Rich which Joseph is going to tell us
about Dean rabbits. She'd be farmer based out at Glennam
talks about the positivity and the wall sector, especially after
last week's sale, so a couple of good things happening
in that space. Fraser Darling talks about the Gore Perindale
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Ramsale which is happening tomorrow and Gore obviously at the
AMP showgrounds. And Jason Pine of Newstork ZB fills us
in about the latest around this all Blacks coaching change
and comments as well about the black Caps and they're magnificent,
unprecedented series win in an Odi against India for the
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first time in eight attempts. So we'll start the hour
shortly with Jamie King. This is the Muster until two
o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics stay and hors Fader. Jamie
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King farms at Lake Heroko and near the edges of
Feud and more western south and I suppose and joins
us this afternoon and the Sergeant Dan farming ground up
thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock foods here and Gore. Jamie,
good afternoon, and welcome.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Good mate. Here we go, and I'm happy twenty twenty
six and all that.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Jeers.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And it might be a bit late to say that
Neil was it?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, Well, last week it was acceptable. Second week and
they we'll just put it. I'll put it across through
your name right.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
There, fella, Hey, yeah, perfect, perfect. Now it's good. Everyone's
back on deck and we lucky people got to go away.
But I didn't. I was getting a bit frustrated on
at the fifth of January. No one was answer the
phones and once one and you leave. And but now
we're bi bick slugging away Andy, So that's good.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
So you have to just slogging your way through the winter,
grip through winter, try the holiday graft.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I suppose, Oh yeah, mate, you're just chipping away. There's
always plenty of weeks of spray and I sort of
plug away, still getting bit a crop, but a bailergin
and oh to the season. Yeah, one of these days,
my good ladies is Canadian. As a lot of people know,
it would be nice to go over northern America for Christmas.
I recon because when there's snow on the ground and
six hours a daylight, you just don't do anything. We
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just switch it round of it mate, for a year.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well, it's ironic you say that.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Once upon a time I was working on a potato
farm in Essex, in the UK, riddling potatoes and the
most crappiest, coldest conditions you can imagine. It was dark
at three point thirty in the afternoon. It was no pecnic.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, that's right. This been no excuse. You wouldn't be
making bailishtable in the clock at or in the summer
seasons on, would you. But now this year just plugging
away and it's quite good and well we sort of
just take your breaking and then been shooting up the
river catching three fish of the kids night and just
just relaxing. The phone sort of slows down a bit,
of emails and some things just slow down, so you
sort of enjoy that. But yeah, getting into ringing now.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, of course, beautiful lake of Rocos running your doorstep,
and we were fortunate enough to go through and do
the jeep boat ride there over the break. Jamie actually
managed to see there. It's hard case like I go
to Minapouri, the first person I see on the beach
is Andy Dennis, and I go to Laker Okay, the
first person I sees Jamie King.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You'd think we don't do any farmwork, wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
You made I didn't say that at all, but just
the irony of being in your neck of the woods.
But look it was Yeah, beautiful area you've got there.
Those have been busy though, because that rode through to
the lake. It's a long gravel based rights. Have you
had a lot of traffic This summer.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Probably hasn't been as bad as quite often normally as
Andy Breeding campus. But and even sort of barter as
like it is a long way from nowhere in the lake.
Katorisley has got a bad name for getting rough, so
go pack your days when you go there, but it
is when you do get a good doubt. We can't
beat it. But it's quite nice. It's probably not as
busy as other areas. There's no shops to stop it
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and the lay in there, Andy sez, Yeah, I'd argue
it's probably been quieter than another years to be fear,
but yeah, nut's been good.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
It's like when I used to live on the farm
up there on the headwaters of the Mattawa and people saying,
why do you want to go on a holiday when
you've got this on your doorstep? But every now and
then use the staycations good, but you've got to get
away and just come to your senses.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Oh, that's right, even though staff new members spraying a
few pistoles and making the room. Well, we've got no
wind that's come and I've just said bagger at lunchtime,
will grabbed the kids and we're going to shoot up
to moner wif first see we catch your fishing for
the afternoon and a play the quakes up there and
not slow down. But this has always been self employed. Mate.
You can pick and choose, can't you.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So what's your growing season being like? Overd there? We're
hearing various reports around the province. How are you holding out?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, we're obviously dry, but we're not. Yeah, we suit
the dry andy like our league him. The bases are
really good. The clover is thumping away, lambs again real good.
The dry grass obviously gone off. But crops are sort
of that they could do with a drink. If I
could just see some mother nature, just a GPS plot
of the crop paddocks and get it a truck an
inch on them would be a grand But failing that,
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nothing complaining about eat andy. But another week of ten
days and we'll be looking for another for a bit
of rang. But we had quite a bit of most
driver the last week ten days with it easterly, it's
sort of lingered round and a bit of foggy stuff
look up with a bit of fur round and it's
all just you know, dissipitated pretty well. So all in all,
not too much to complain about. I know a lot
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of other people are starting to look for a bit
of mosture there.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So how would you compare January to other years?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Right now, absolutely terrific. We could go terrible with it
easterly probably.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
More on ha.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, well what's the new normal now though?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Andy, Well, there is, yeah, exactly, but.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Now it's a little This is probably the best clover
and League in sort of season we've had in the
last so this is the best ever last three anyway,
like I said, we've sort of better away weave it.
But now it's small arguably traditional but not gone good.
But and the Bartley's hummer along, so you're more traditional.
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I suppose.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Wait, it's on your lambs. On the lambs, that'll be
going pretty well, I'd imagine.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, we've got to hook on and we've got a
couple of unit loads going the end of the week,
so you know, they come along pretty good. They smoke
up in the mid forties out of and we winned
evening obviously pretty Christmas, so you know that was a
good call to getting and get them and waned early.
So just with the way the spring was, mate, the
you sort of gone off and there's a few out
of you. So we got them, got lambs drenched and
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odd what killed kind of remember I couldn't tell you
that mate before Christmas, and grab a couple of unitloads
of stores just so likely and now something along too.
So now we all all pretty good, eddie. But as
fast as I'm making money, mate, we're fled out spinning
it too.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
So what does the red meat seed you? You're a
lion so an't you? Where are you at this week?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
We are?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I see lamb side and schedules at teen sixty and
innocence training still up above teen bucks on schedule coming
what was teen sixty two? I think teen seventy, and
there's they had quite a look at of contrary out
for balls. I think they're talking nine to jailing. It
was quite that mark. But everything's close to close to
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team bucks mate, part from the wall. But I we'll
start here in here this week, but it's on the
app and up too. So it's quite nice that it
hasn't sort of folded so and it's just gone up
nice and gently. It hasn't just scare awkward, you know,
the store no volatility in it. So maybe Fingers crossed
with might have a good couple of years.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Well.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
The update from the PG willso sweek out up in
christ Church was a rise in the south of thirty
eight cents.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, so you know we're up around that, you know,
four twenty four and five bucks to being clean and
greasy with whever you read it. So yeah, no, it's
it's good because it was a pretty rough business model
here for the last three or four years. You know,
at least we'll get there'll be something ahead of it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
But you were saying off here as well. Use these
prices are great, but we need to keep pushing for more.
What would you accept as a price for red mate?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Well, what would I realistically?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Though?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Obviously the sky is the limit, but you got to
just rain it in.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Look mate, if you hang around that ten, we're eleving
bucks on Lamb or hit teen and it stays over teen,
that's quite comfortable. We can work with that. The Venicon
needs to probably crank a bit more, mate, that's around ten.
But I mean realistic, if we want high numbers to
just increase in people to have all with that, that
needs to be close to probably thirteen, I would argue.
And and the beef's probably pretty nice around that, you know,
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l nines, but they'd be nice to see it over
teen too. So I'm on a happy boy now any
but I'll be happy if we here all that, and
of course we'll walk would.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Be good at teen, that'll be fantastic. And ten of
course number mates, And that's.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
What Jamie McKay talks about, just having ten as a
number across all the sectors at the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
One hundred percent, one hundred percent and then yeah, so
but no, we'll just start in course we're gonna you know,
we've got leaks from this year so and could unravel itself.
But that's exciting, isn't it. You know, you never know
what's around the corner.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Never a dull moment. Jamie, how you enjoy boating this afternoon?
And we'll catch up with you in due course.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
So it's good to.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Catch up, hey, spot on good only anything, mate.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Jamie King of Lake Roko and the Sergeant Dan Farming
round up thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock. Foods here and Gore.
Southland MP Joseph Mooney. Parliament isn't back until next week,
but we catch up with Joseph anyway, see how things
have been over the holiday season.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
This is the muster on Hakanui. Joseph MP is MP
for Southland. Parliament.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Duty to get underway next week, but it's all go
with the nets this week. Joseph, good afternoon and welcome.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Yeah, good after Andy, good to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Happy new year, Yeah, happy new year.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Well under way. Definitely a lot happened in the year already,
it's for sure, and we've got out caucus retreat and
christ Hip starting tomorrow. It's the first time Caucus gets
together for the National Party at the beginning of every year.
This year it's in christ hitch So doing that and
then Parliament kicks off prop next week.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So what happens at the caucus retreat.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
It's a chance for all the MP's to come together
we you know, obviously heaping the leader in the respective
you know, portfolio holders and some important areas and have
a discussion about what we're going to be focusing on
in the year ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So as far as the focus, what are you envisaging
from a southern lens.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Well, we obviously we want to keep the economic momentum going.
We've had some because you know, great sot hapening over
the last couple of years in terms of resetting the
rinks through environment for the primary sector, and obviously the
prices we've been getting the schedules, et cetera, and the
dairy prices have been helped a lot. So obviously want
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to keep that momentum going.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Penny Simmons talked about it last week. Changes to the
ARI may and the seeds have gone down pretty well.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Yeah, it has, yep, and we're looking forward to that
progressing through this year. We're going to be should be
passing passed into wall before the election, and that's obviously
been so much thing or people will be talking about
this for as long as I've been in this roller
for sure, and a lot longer than that. So it's
long overdue and it's great that we've got the the
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coalition votes to get it through.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Now you're based up there in Queenstown, the reports you're
hearing about the traffic situation there, John, I mean you're
hearing what was it ninety minutes from Frankton Roundabout into
town and the lakes. And we've talked about this before,
we're talking about it again the redevelopments of the Frankton Roundabout.
Are we going how long until we can realistically see
a changing in this situation regarding traffic flow around that
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region because it's diabolical.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Look, I'm not living in queens And myself anymore, but
certainly very familiar with Queens and obviously represent it as
the member of Parliament. It's a pretty complicated in terms
of the traffic flow the Frankton roundabout them and they've
still got a couple of years before they completed that
from what I understand from the New Zealand Transport Authority.
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But certainly one of the things I'm advocating strongly for
is getting this gondola project going, which wipe solve everything,
but it will reduce some of the traffic demand on
the existing road network because it's a pretty difficult base
in the the frank in terms of traffic because you've
got a limited geography. There's only so many roads you
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can put around it, and more roads to build you
the more cars will flow down there. So yeah, for example,
they built a bridge just over seven years ago and
that's almost a capacity already across the Cowedo. Those anecess
populations have grown there and obviously it's got a lot
of tourists. But yeah, there's this application at the moment
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for fast Track to build a gondola from Franklin into town.
And that's not the panacea. It certainly would reduce the
amount of traffic that needs to go on the road.
That's that's one thing I'm pushing for.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Do you think there'll be a cap on growth in
Queenstown coming up sooner than later?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Look apart from this natural constraints on growth and you
know the infrastructure required for it, I think it's unlikely.
I think people have been sort of thinking about whether
they can constrain growth for a long time, and it's
the reality is just keeps happening. So the better approach
from my perspective is so actually think about what infrastructure
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we require. And that's I'll put a lobby for the
last year and so helping advocate for a regional deal
for the target Central Lakes region. So that was successful
with that being the only region of the South farm
that's no negotiations with central government for a regional deal.
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So from my perspective, I want I want to see that,
you know, looking at you know, at the transport, energy,
at the medical health care needs for the region and
for education is among a few other things.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Now, it's been a sad start to the year, losing
a couple of names synonymous with the South Jills Redditch
and Duned and answered Tom Shedbolt, whose funeral occurred last Friday.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Yeah, there was a really sad start the year. Both
good men contributed a lot to the South and Jewels
read it obviously originally from my tolder and become a
proud to mid Night and I thought, I've got to
know him quite well when he was mayor of Dunedin
and yeah, he certainly fought hard for the hospital during
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his time and some really good work behind the scenes there.
And then obviously Shadbolt made a massive contribution to the
cargo in to South and.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Three odd decades.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
So yeah, really sad start to the year, but so
good to see them. They're both we were recognized for
the contribution they made to the region.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Hey, good on you, Joseph. Always appreciate you time.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I enjoy the retreat up there in christ Reach over
the next couple of days and Parliament back into it
next week. Always good to catch up. Ah going Ernie
Joseph Mooney, MP for Southland. You're listening to the muster
on hok and Nui. We're away to Glenham next. We're
catching up the Dean Rabbage.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
The muster on the farm with Southland District Council working
together for a Beta Southland.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Dean Rabbage farms at glen and sheep and Bee farmer
joins us for the first time in twenty twenty six
on the muster on this beautiful bluebird afternoon in the
deep South, get a Dean house things.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
You're a very good idiot's certainly stone.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It just puts it all into perspective when you've had
these cold, rather cooler days. I think Friday afternoon we
contemplated putting the fire on. It was ridiculous. Saturday wasn't
a hell of a lot better? Or did warm up
in the afternoon yesterday Sunday. You're very pleasant, but like
I said, that's in a farming context for the middle
of January.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's what you want.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Yeah, it's making life very easy that's for sure. There's
a bit of moisture around, and then get these nice
hot days. The clover is certainly pinging, and there's no
shortage of options. We had to cheft stock too, which
is a bit of a luxury in one.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Pretty fortunate to.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Have, really, I guess.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
So, how would you say ground conditions are compared to
previous januaries. I'm asking a few people this at the moment.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh gee, everything back, But now, yeah, I think probably
compared to the last couple of januaries we've had, we're
in a lot better position. I think in the past
have almost been getting cold or dry or combination of
the two. But no, look, we'll just literally make habile
the sunshines and really enjoy the conditions we've got and
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try and capitalize on some pretty favorable market positions.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
At the moment, Yeah, market's looking pretty good. Are you
looking at going heavier on your lambs as a result
of it? Or is it a case of the states
quite you're meeting your budgets.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You just carry on.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
No, no, we're just going to carry on. As soon
as we get those lambs to the anyway north of
the eighteen kilos, they're going to go, because I know
you can't sort of ring fence a year. You got
to look into the next season already, do I say it? Well,
let's let's call it. We're almost at the end of January.
The rem will begin out yeah again and for around
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two months tur and a half months time, So we
really got to start just looking forward to well, just
looking after the years and the breeding stop, because like
I said before, you can't isolate year after year. You
got to look at it as a as a continuous thing.
So we'll just carry on as per usual and appreciate
the high prices, but we're not going to go chasing
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messive weights to make even more money. You're just gonna
We're going to jeopardize next season before we start.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So what happened with your latest lamb Way, it sounds
like you died in the hole.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Oh yeah, they just short of a double ton, but
not much. Yes, So I've got a third draft going
away this week on Wednesday, so they will be Goodness
is the terminals. We still haven't touched the maternals yet.
We took all the feathers off them and started December
at winning time, which has worked out pretty well to
the point, I've got the years booked and already for
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next year. This has been nice not him to worry
about fly or getting them bagged prior to sharing, and
it takes a bit of pressure for the end of
January for us as well when we're trying to get
all the main share and get done also. So yeah,
it seems to work so far pretty well. Obviously they're
going to have a bit more wolong than coming into April,
but hopefully they will only be a small number of
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crips left and then the remainder will be Capital Socku
Lambs replacements which get shorn again and July prelium. Anyway, Yeah,
it seems to be working all right at it.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
So the Lambs didn't take much of a check pre
Christmas despite being shorn.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Then, Look, it's hard to say because it was the
first time we've done it, so it's sort of hard
to compare. But they always take the every check around
a waning time anyway, so it may have had another
we got in the system. I'm not too sure, but
we ran them all over the conveyor on Friday and
reached them all again for the second time, so yeah,
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we'll have a better sort up next time they come
through the yards. But I seemed to trucking away nicely,
and certainly in these nice hot days that they seemed
to be quite happy out there grazing most of the time.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So it's good.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And the big thing as well, you mentioned a dean
eliminating the risk of fly striker or reducing it.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Yeah, so what we do. Yeah, obviously all the maternals
were shorn and then all the terminals got sort of
jetted pretty Christmas. So yeah, we haven't had of way
about anything like that, and we don't seem to have
any any effects of that or any impeter fly on
the US, even though they are for wall. So yes,
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one of most thankfulary about because it came in quite
a time consuming job. If you start having those issues,
especially the time of year.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
What did you do as far as work like doing
your sharing pre Christmas though, and what is already pretty
much a stressful month?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Oh yeah, I don't know if there's a NONS just
for muths and farming, is there. Yeah, it increased a
little bit, but then again, like we've saved a week
or three or four days in the yards crushing them
up before you get you the end of the season too,
so it's done all songs a roundabouts really, but we're
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quite heavy with that decision.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah, you talk about budgets for real meat prices all
your will budget, I'd say it'll be above where you
need it to be because talked about this with Jamie
King just before as well the South Island price update
from last week. Another successful sale up there in Canterbury.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, that's really positive. It's still not we needs to
be you don't understund too negative, but at least we're
going to be making a significant margin on the US please,
especially this year, it's going to more than cover costs,
so it's going to be quite a swung from perhaps
having a small loss to break even last year to
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care a significant cash fun picked this year. So it's
really cool and it's obviously heading in the right direction.
So yeah, quite happy with that.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Well.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
This was a commentary that came from the sale last week.
The first South Island sale of a new year saw
significant pressure for buyers to secure volumes to feel new
will will export excuse me business into China and India,
as with all ships in the harbor of to get
lifted on a rising tide. The sale saw the same
for all wall breeds and types, with a very active
demand from the auction floor, and it was interested in
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Note the most crossbred fleeces types now exceed five I
was a prett key Loo clean threshold, not having been
achieved for almost ten years.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah, it's pretty exciting, isn't it. So you will get
well onto the store assuring between like the start, we've
just got builders here putting a new roof on the
wallshet at the moment from the one we lost in October.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It's a bit.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Pressure on them. Yeah, we'll get a head all onto
the store pretty quickly as soon as it's often tested
and getting into the system to see what happens from there.
But yeah, it's going to be nice putting those bars
on the truck and you're going to get a positive
return other than another cost of year, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Well, I was going into the positives and not the
negatives as far as the monetary side of things. So
long mate, continue. Hey, the big news regarding you All
Black coaching shake up last week? All this talk about
Jamie Joseph and the likes, what would be your dream
all Blacks combination as far as coaching or is it
too big a process freshly for us to try and
understand because you get all these coaches, all these different
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dynamics change as far as we're all on this staff.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, I know, I know that Jimmy Sinkley, Mark Bryston
and Karen Enerson from Window would probably like to have
a crack at it, But no, I think Jamie Joseph
would certainly bring probably a bit more of a hard
nose edge to the All Blacks, which potentially has been
missing in the last last couple of seasons. I personally
wasn't too disappointed to see Raiser go, but I just
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hope they might have to come a few kettle in
there to get rid of the problem to start with.
So yeah, we'll be definitely an interesting Super Rugby campaign
and watch this space, I guess when it comes to
the All Blacks this season, I guess.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, good to see you quoting some Window names there.
You guys have got a special year as well since
Teneri wise, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, we do. Actually, we've got one hundred and twenty
fifth Jubilee coming up and Enzac weekend this year. So
the boys apparently start training this week, getting quite excited
about it, So yeah, I'm pretty sure that you can
go onto the window break we called facebook page and
follow some links to register if you're next player or
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contributor to the club or just a supporter. Yes, hopefully
can record a quite a good weekend. And obviously with
Anzic dating on a Saurday this year we get Monday off,
so it's a pretty good excuse to make a good
weekend of it.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Are you president this year?
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I am for my sons along with a few other things,
so yep, it's my turn according to the roster. So yeah,
it's quite an exciting and it's pretty cool to be
part of the club and a big year of this.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Do you crack a good whip?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What do we run a democratic dictatorship?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Dean Trump? There you go. We'll heard it here for us. Hey,
good on your David. Let you carry on and enjoy.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
The thanks there you Rammage farming at Glenham. Yeah, a
lot of rabies ten year was going on this year?
Or do beileeze for that matter? Wind of one twenty
fifth Light DNC go and check out the details. Fraser
Darling's up next. We're talking Perindale.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Ram sales.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
This is the muster on Hakanui, brought to you by
Peter's Genetics. Next, we're catching up with Fraser Darling. It
is that time of year once again, dare we say?
But the Perindale Ramfare is happening of the go Amp
showgrounds at the ram Pavilion tomorrow. Phraser is going to
tell us all about what to expect tomorrow in an
industry that's certainly in an upwards trajectory motion at the moment.
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Is such a word as that Fraser?
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Good afternoon, afternoon, Andy, how are you?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
You're going really good?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Look, it doesn't seem that long to spoke to you
last time, but it comes around quicker than not. But
all of a sudden, you think about tapping season, you
think about rams for the far, you start thinking about
parandales and the likes as well, and I mean a
dual purpose breed.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
A lot of good things come with it.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Yes, indeed, indeed, yeah, no, it's twelve months since we
last spoke, really so yes, tomorrow morning we have the
Parandale ram fear So the steady thirty five top quality
Parandales catalog for sale inspection from eight thirty in the
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morning and the auction starts at teen thirty, So looking
looking forward to a bump of crowd and I'm picking
they'll be as per usual with high demand. This year's
quite a bit of buoyancy in the sheep industry at
the moment. So yeah, it's really looking forward.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
To it because record prices.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
We've we had it last year, I think in the
year before for goodness sakes, So it just seems to
go up by the season. But you look at genetics,
which makes sense, and just the state of play for
the ends have talked about Fraser, then you can see why.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah. Yeah, like certainly amongst breeders anyway, Like I mean
our top top rams sold for nineteen thousand last year
and the average was threets out and five hundred and
something for a few cents for the rest of the rams,
So there is really rams there for everyone from the
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commercial man right through to the top stud you know
animal So yeah, it's certainly an opportunity to get your
hands on some of the best netics around.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Buy us from the North Island. Are they coming down
as in previous seasons, Yes.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Yes, there'll be a number of buyers from the North
Island down there is some North Island Rams into it
as well. They've come to try and take our crown.
But yeah, I'm sure the Southern the Southern Rams will
be right up to the challenge.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well there just as your how things how they rate
the southphase, especially for RAM sales when they're putting their
stock in too, but just to get the genetics out North,
so it's a one win yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
And like all the animals, all the rams are inspected
so Breed Society Society inspected so buyers can buy with
confidence that the animals sound physically. Everything's been vet inspected
as well, so whether you're buying at the showgrounds or
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online through the bidder, you can buy with confident.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
As far as catalogs, what's happening there is it just
online this year.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Look, there will be a limited number of catalogs available
down at the showgrounds tomorrow, but you can you can
download the catalog at Perindale dot co, dot m Z,
the Parandale Exelant website. So it would be if people
did that because as I said, there's a limited number
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at the.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Showgrounds and it's going to be showing on bidder.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Yes indeed, yep. The sales become very prominent on bidder
with I think last year there was nine rams sold
over the bidder system and something like twenty twenty odd bids,
So yeah, very popular and bidd and most breeders have
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got videos IF's not photos of their rams, so people
can look at them today if they so wish, ready
for the sale tomorrow is our case.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
I think you could be mewing a paddock for silag
or bailads and buying a ram at the same time
and your track.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
That Yeah, yeah, I have to be one of the
ones that I have to eat my hat because I
never sort of thought, you know, people would buy buy
an animal without looking at it. But yeah, very very
popular now. And as I said, I'm these animals are
breed inspected and bet checked as well, so people can
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buy them with confidence without actually seeing the animals in person.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Now, I'm going to bring back a quote that you
said a couple of years ago. I said it last year,
and I'm going to say it again. I'm going to
let it give you the opportunity first phraseer to say
what it is.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
I would say that that quote was probably something to
do with sleeping bags, balls and rams.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
And you get for what you pay for.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
In life, you get you get exactly what you pay for.
If you buy a cheap, cheap sleeping bag, you're probably
gonna have a cold night.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
That's one of the greatest analogies I've ever heard.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Oh well, you know, but you know, I just think
it's true. I mean, if you if you want to
spend you know, as cheap as you can on rams
aal balls, generally you're not going to get a great animal,
whether it be physically and or with the ebbs that
are now currently supplied with basically every animal that sold
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in New Zealand on the stud side of things. So yeah,
you're looking for that genetic gain to help make your
flock or your herd so much better.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Absolutely so, just once again those details around tomorrow, Fraser,
the people need to remember.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Well inspecting all the rams will be penned at eight
thirty in the morning, so there's two hours before the
ram seal starts at ten thirty.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Hey, good on your Fraser, all the best for the
sale tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
It it's good to catch up, thanks very much, Andy.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Fraser Darling talking about the Pirindale ram Fair being held
the Rampavilium at the AMP Showgrounds tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
You talk about death, life and Texas, well, this is
right up there.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
You get what you pay for in life regarding rams,
balls and sleeping bags.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
That's an absolute gem.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
So get down there if you'll look at some good rams,
some good genetics tomorrow as well. Before we wrap up,
we're catching up with Jason Pine at a New Stork Zeb.
What exactly is going on with this all black coaching
situation we find out next Welcome back to the muster
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on Hakanui. Jason Pine, host of Weekend Sport on newstorg Zeb,
joins us after rather hectic week in the New Zealand
sporting landscape.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Piny, good afternoon and welcome to the must.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Thanks and a year nothing like a nothing like a
slow start to the sporting year. We're not getting. We're
not getting that this year. Biggest sports story in terms
of reaction not only on our show, but across social media,
across the news sites, across the entire sporting landscape. Biggest
one I can remember for at least a decade, the
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departing aways with Scott Robertson on Thursday. So yeah, lots
to lots to dissect and still probably a lot to
come as we as we try to work out what's next.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
So what, yeah, what's actually the problem here? Is this
a problem though?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Just with New Zealand rugby steaming from the coaching personnel
right through to the hierarchy.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
It's hard to really know for sure without being inside
the environment. But look, put it this way, Andy, it's
it's beyond the scoreboard right because seven losses in twenty
seven test matches, that's a winning percentage of around seventy
five percent across Scott Robinson's time as All Black Sea coach.
Only Rassi Erasmus is South Africa has a better winning
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percentage among international coaches. So I think a lot of
people are saying, hey, well, how can you get rid
of a guy who's got effectively a seventy five percent
winning record? So it has to go digger than that.
And I listened carefully to David Kirk's press conference on
Thursday when he was answering questions about this decision, and
a couple of words stood out. One was trajectory, they
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don't believe they're on the right three. And then one
was a phrase when he said this team is not
on track. So clearly within the within the high performance
environment and certainly within the playing group. Off the end
of what I understand was a pretty scathing review at
the end of the end of view tour or the
end of the end of view tour, they've decided change
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is needed if they are to get back on track
and to send the trajectory in the in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Do you think player power has something to do with us?
Speaker 9 (36:28):
I think that's the wrong phrase. I think the players
certainly have something to do with But you talk about
player power often you get the negative connotation of of,
you know, the lunatics running the asylum. If you like,
you know that the players are there to play. They're
not the one to select the coach. They do what
the coach sets out for them. But these are high
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performing all blacks, Andy, who have been in and around
this team, many of them for close to a decade,
and they know when things are not right, and that
clearly is the message that's come through. Depending on who
you believe and who you listen to. I heard our
colleague at TV and Z, Andrew Savill say today that
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he understood that ninety percent of the playing group we're
not in favor of Scott Robertson continuing not in favor
of the way he was running the team. Look, when
you've lost ninety percent of your dressing room, there really
isn't a way forward. So look, player power, I think
has been a fairly convenient phrase to be thrown around
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for those who want to see something sinister and all
of this. Those players have a limited window to be
successful in their rugby careers and the last thing they
want is for that ambition to be in any way
stymied by the coaching that they are receiving. So yeah,
I think certainly the player feedback formed a large part
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of this decision. But to say that somehow the players
pushed their coach out is is factually incorrect because you know,
if the board had wanted to, if David Kirk had
wanted to, they could have, you know, said okay, well
look we take your feedback on board that we're going
to stick with our man. They didn't do that. So yeah,
it formed a part of it. But I don't like
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the phrase play a power.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
I mean, you think there there was only three losses
last year, but the concern seems to be the manner
of the losses.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Would that be fair yeap.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
Very fair. Look, I think the hiding in Wellington and
that's you know, the only way you can describe it
to South Africa was you know, that really laid bare
a lot of problems within that side. And also really
the almost afterwards that was almost as concerning, when you
know coach and captain in front of the media were
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just completely unable to explain what had happened. And then
you know, the lost to England at the back end
of the year. I think that was almost like the
last straw, if you like. Look, if they won that
game and completed a Grand Slam, would Raiser still be there.
I guess you could say maybe, but I think by
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that stage things have got to a point where, you
know where there were serious question mark. So yes, the
other loss, of course was a way in Argentina. Look,
this team had some very good wines under Razor, the
first Test against South Africa up in Auckland, a terrific performance,
you know, twos over Ireland, including a really really good
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performance in Dublin in twenty twenty four. But I think
what we've seen Andy is that the results have papered
over some pretty large cracks in that all Blacks Kingdom,
and when those cracks appear, it's often the man at
the top of the tree who has part to allow
them to be fixed. And that's exactly what's happened here.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Now we start the mirror go around regarding the next
coaching person. Now, Pinty, I mean, Jamie Joseph is the
name you're hearing bandied around there trying to get Tony
Brown involved with him. So he sounds like he's locked
down in South Africa. He got very kind of Joe Schmidt.
I mean, there's a lot of good coaches out there,
and I don't know where you really start to go
through this process.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
Yeah, it's it's a very good point because there'll be
a few hands up from it. There'll be others whose
names have been thrown into the conversation who I'm sure
don't have any real desire to get involved. Just on
the Jamie Joseph one, he appears to be the front runner.
But I feel as though Jamie Joseph without Tony Brown
is a very different proposition from Jamie Joseph with Tony Brown.
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They worked, They worked very well, you know, in harmony
with one another. Yeah, I've seen all of the stuff
out of South Africa. I haven't seen anything official from
Tony Brown himself to say I'm definitely staying until twenty
twenty seven and lock contracts as we know, and I
can get out of them if you want to. In
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a funny old way, I think if Tony Brown went
to Rassie Erasmus and said, hey, I've got this opportunity
to coach the All Blacks, Rassi Erasmus would probably let
him go. You know, he knows Tony Brown and he
knows how deep Tony Brown's desire is to one day
coach the All Blacks. I've been trying to get inside
Tony Brown's head ever since this happened, and Jamie Joseph's
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name has been in and around the conversation, and I
really don't know what he would be thinking. A huge
part of him, I'm sure would think, Okay, well, if
I throw my lot and with Jamie, we're likely to
be in the next All Blacks coaching group, something I've
always wanted. You know, That's one way I could go.
Or I could stay with South Africa, this juggern Order
World Rugby, try and win another World Cup in two years,
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and then that role back at the All Blacks will
still be there for me. So yeah, if it's not Jamie,
I quite like the idea of Dave Rennie being involved.
A guy with international experience at Australia treated dreadfully by
Rugby Australia when he was let go for them to
get Eddie Jones back and we know what a dumps
to fire that turned into. So I like the idea
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of Dave Rennie being involved. Joe Schmidt clearly has a
lot of you know a lot of rugby IQ, whether
he's the head coach or just in an around the team.
You know, it won't just be one guy, and it'll
be a team of coaches who who have to work
in harmony to to make sure that the playing group
are getting clear messaging, honest communication and to be fair,
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the buck has to stop at their head coach. And
I'm not sure that was always the case internally anyway,
when conversations were to be had at the All Blacks
under Scott Robertson just to wrap.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Up Piney the black Caps securing their first ever ODI
Series win in Undia, donate attempts. We can underestimate how
big this is for the cricketing landscape.
Speaker 9 (42:40):
Amazing news to wake up to this morning that the
New Zealand side had done this. And you know, winning
a one day series in India is hard enough anyway,
you know, no New Zealand team's ever done it in
the previous seven attempts. But to do it with a
severely undermanned side, a hugely inexperienced side really, you know,
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against a pretty decent Indian outfit on Indian tracks is remarkable. Really,
it's a massive feather in their caps. When a lot
of those players as well, and you must remember have
half and eye on the T twenty World Cup. The
one day series was almost a bit of an inconvenience really,
but they went over there and look, you have to
make mention of Darrell Mitchell and what he has done
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in the series. Two big hundreds and another score of
eighty four, a strike rate of over one hundred. You know,
a complete all purpose cricketer for New Zealand, Daryl Mitchell.
So yeah, massive feather in the cap of those who
are involved.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
You know.
Speaker 9 (43:38):
Now we turn our attention to the five match T
twenty series against India and the T twenty World Cup
to come, but this has to be a huge confidence
boost for the black Caps those who are staying and
the coaching stuff as well as they look look ahead
to the World Cup in a month or so.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Jason Pine of News Doorgs be weekend sports host. We
can hear you amusing tonight as well from seven pm.
Always appreciate your time, Love.
Speaker 9 (44:00):
It Andy, look forward to catching up again soon. Laugh
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Speaker 4 (44:14):
I normally knock on the fridge door before I open it,
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
There's a wig up breach juice to morning.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Welcome margin ben.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
J good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokinnui.
Andy meey here until two o'clock and the show has
brought to you by Peters to you so appreciate you company.
I hope the weekend was a good one. I'll be honest.
I watched a lot of cricket out there at Hamilton Park.
It's t twenty in Southland. Cricket oh has been last
(00:30):
weekend anyway, So the Kuei the Bees had a couple
of games on Saturday and in the A's yesterday against
him Vercable Old Boys and on rather sunburrant, so that's
my issue. Theps Bank tour Southland as well, concluding the
latest stage and to Gore very shortly, so just be
aware that there are a few changes to the roads
(00:50):
around Gore over the next hour and a half or
so anyway, so just be weary if you're coming into town.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Music for a Monday.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
John bon Jovi or better off known better known as
bon Job, although he did a lot of songs as
John bon Jovi as well.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Just to complicate it, Pokanui's five day forecast with twin
farm teff from and soft text. The proof is in
the progeny teff from dot co dot inzead.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
This afternoon the talking partly cloudy skies of breezy easterlies
and twenty two. That's the theme for the week. Tuesday
and Wednesday, rinse and repeat. Partly cloudy with breezy easterlyes
Tomorrow seven and twenty, Wednesdays ten and twenty five, Thursday,
mostly cloudy with breezy easterly twelve and twenty three, and
Friday getting cooler light Raymard breeze South Easterly's eight and
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fifteen sold temperatures to hand Clinton fourteen point seven, Northern
South and fifteen point three, Rivertons sixteen, Towne fifteen point
six and Winton fourteen point one.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I forget Woodland's fourteen point eight.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Jamie King of Lake Heroco starts us off for a
Monday afternoon, followed up by local MP Joseph Mooney.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Not quite Parliament time that starts next week.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
This week the know the nets are getting together up
in christ Rich which Joseph is going to tell us
about Dean rabbits. She'd be farmer based out at Glennam
talks about the positivity and the wall sector, especially after
last week's sale, so a couple of good things happening
in that space. Fraser Darling talks about the Gore Perindale
(02:27):
Ramsale which is happening tomorrow and Gore obviously at the
AMP showgrounds. And Jason Pine of Newstork ZB fills us
in about the latest around this all Blacks coaching change
and comments as well about the black Caps and they're magnificent,
unprecedented series win in an Odi against India for the
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first time in eight attempts. So we'll start the hour
shortly with Jamie King. This is the Muster until two
o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics stay and hors Fader. Jamie
(03:08):
King farms at Lake Heroko and near the edges of
Feud and more western south and I suppose and joins
us this afternoon and the Sergeant Dan farming ground up
thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock foods here and Gore. Jamie,
good afternoon, and welcome.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Good mate. Here we go, and I'm happy twenty twenty
six and all that.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Jeers.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And it might be a bit late to say that
Neil was it?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, Well, last week it was acceptable. Second week and
they we'll just put it. I'll put it across through
your name right.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
There, fella, Hey, yeah, perfect, perfect. Now it's good. Everyone's
back on deck and we lucky people got to go away.
But I didn't. I was getting a bit frustrated on
at the fifth of January. No one was answer the
phones and once one and you leave. And but now
we're bi bick slugging away Andy, So that's good.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
So you have to just slogging your way through the winter,
grip through winter, try the holiday graft.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I suppose, Oh yeah, mate, you're just chipping away. There's
always plenty of weeks of spray and I sort of
plug away, still getting bit a crop, but a bailergin
and oh to the season. Yeah, one of these days,
my good ladies is Canadian. As a lot of people know,
it would be nice to go over northern America for Christmas.
I recon because when there's snow on the ground and
six hours a daylight, you just don't do anything. We
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just switch it round of it mate, for a year.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well, it's ironic you say that.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Once upon a time I was working on a potato
farm in Essex, in the UK, riddling potatoes and the
most crappiest, coldest conditions you can imagine. It was dark
at three point thirty in the afternoon. It was no pecnic.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, that's right. This been no excuse. You wouldn't be
making bailishtable in the clock at or in the summer
seasons on, would you. But now this year just plugging
away and it's quite good and well we sort of
just take your breaking and then been shooting up the
river catching three fish of the kids night and just
just relaxing. The phone sort of slows down a bit,
of emails and some things just slow down, so you
sort of enjoy that. But yeah, getting into ringing now.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, of course, beautiful lake of Rocos running your doorstep,
and we were fortunate enough to go through and do
the jeep boat ride there over the break. Jamie actually
managed to see there. It's hard case like I go
to Minapouri, the first person I see on the beach
is Andy Dennis, and I go to Laker Okay, the
first person I sees Jamie King.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You'd think we don't do any farmwork, wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
You made I didn't say that at all, but just
the irony of being in your neck of the woods.
But look it was Yeah, beautiful area you've got there.
Those have been busy though, because that rode through to
the lake. It's a long gravel based rights. Have you
had a lot of traffic This summer.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Probably hasn't been as bad as quite often normally as
Andy Breeding campus. But and even sort of barter as
like it is a long way from nowhere in the lake.
Katorisley has got a bad name for getting rough, so
go pack your days when you go there, but it
is when you do get a good doubt. We can't
beat it. But it's quite nice. It's probably not as
busy as other areas. There's no shops to stop it
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and the lay in there, Andy sez, Yeah, I'd argue
it's probably been quieter than another years to be fear,
but yeah, nut's been good.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
It's like when I used to live on the farm
up there on the headwaters of the Mattawa and people saying,
why do you want to go on a holiday when
you've got this on your doorstep? But every now and
then use the staycations good, but you've got to get
away and just come to your senses.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Oh, that's right, even though staff new members spraying a
few pistoles and making the room. Well, we've got no
wind that's come and I've just said bagger at lunchtime,
will grabbed the kids and we're going to shoot up
to moner wif first see we catch your fishing for
the afternoon and a play the quakes up there and
not slow down. But this has always been self employed. Mate.
You can pick and choose, can't you.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So what's your growing season being like? Overd there? We're
hearing various reports around the province. How are you holding out?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, we're obviously dry, but we're not. Yeah, we suit
the dry andy like our league him. The bases are
really good. The clover is thumping away, lambs again real good.
The dry grass obviously gone off. But crops are sort
of that they could do with a drink. If I
could just see some mother nature, just a GPS plot
of the crop paddocks and get it a truck an
inch on them would be a grand But failing that,
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nothing complaining about eat andy. But another week of ten
days and we'll be looking for another for a bit
of rang. But we had quite a bit of most
driver the last week ten days with it easterly, it's
sort of lingered round and a bit of foggy stuff
look up with a bit of fur round and it's
all just you know, dissipitated pretty well. So all in all,
not too much to complain about. I know a lot
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of other people are starting to look for a bit
of mosture there.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So how would you compare January to other years?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Right now, absolutely terrific. We could go terrible with it
easterly probably.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
More on ha.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, well what's the new normal now though?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Andy, Well, there is, yeah, exactly, but.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Now it's a little This is probably the best clover
and League in sort of season we've had in the
last so this is the best ever last three anyway,
like I said, we've sort of better away weave it.
But now it's small arguably traditional but not gone good.
But and the Bartley's hummer along, so you're more traditional.
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I suppose.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Wait, it's on your lambs. On the lambs, that'll be
going pretty well, I'd imagine.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, we've got to hook on and we've got a
couple of unit loads going the end of the week,
so you know, they come along pretty good. They smoke
up in the mid forties out of and we winned
evening obviously pretty Christmas, so you know that was a
good call to getting and get them and waned early.
So just with the way the spring was, mate, the
you sort of gone off and there's a few out
of you. So we got them, got lambs drenched and
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odd what killed kind of remember I couldn't tell you
that mate before Christmas, and grab a couple of unitloads
of stores just so likely and now something along too.
So now we all all pretty good, eddie. But as
fast as I'm making money, mate, we're fled out spinning
it too.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
So what does the red meat seed you? You're a
lion so an't you? Where are you at this week?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
We are?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I see lamb side and schedules at teen sixty and
innocence training still up above teen bucks on schedule coming
what was teen sixty two? I think teen seventy, and
there's they had quite a look at of contrary out
for balls. I think they're talking nine to jailing. It
was quite that mark. But everything's close to close to
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team bucks mate, part from the wall. But I we'll
start here in here this week, but it's on the
app and up too. So it's quite nice that it
hasn't sort of folded so and it's just gone up
nice and gently. It hasn't just scare awkward, you know,
the store no volatility in it. So maybe Fingers crossed
with might have a good couple of years.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Well.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
The update from the PG willso sweek out up in
christ Church was a rise in the south of thirty
eight cents.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, so you know we're up around that, you know,
four twenty four and five bucks to being clean and
greasy with whever you read it. So yeah, no, it's
it's good because it was a pretty rough business model
here for the last three or four years. You know,
at least we'll get there'll be something ahead of it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
But you were saying off here as well. Use these
prices are great, but we need to keep pushing for more.
What would you accept as a price for red mate?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Well, what would I realistically?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Though?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Obviously the sky is the limit, but you got to
just rain it in.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Look mate, if you hang around that ten, we're eleving
bucks on Lamb or hit teen and it stays over teen,
that's quite comfortable. We can work with that. The Venicon
needs to probably crank a bit more, mate, that's around ten.
But I mean realistic, if we want high numbers to
just increase in people to have all with that, that
needs to be close to probably thirteen, I would argue.
And and the beef's probably pretty nice around that, you know,
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l nines, but they'd be nice to see it over
teen too. So I'm on a happy boy now any
but I'll be happy if we here all that, and
of course we'll walk would.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Be good at teen, that'll be fantastic. And ten of
course number mates, And that's.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
What Jamie McKay talks about, just having ten as a
number across all the sectors at the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
One hundred percent, one hundred percent and then yeah, so
but no, we'll just start in course we're gonna you know,
we've got leaks from this year so and could unravel itself.
But that's exciting, isn't it. You know, you never know
what's around the corner.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Never a dull moment. Jamie, how you enjoy boating this afternoon?
And we'll catch up with you in due course.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
So it's good to.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Catch up, hey, spot on good only anything, mate.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Jamie King of Lake Roko and the Sergeant Dan Farming
round up thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock. Foods here and Gore.
Southland MP Joseph Mooney. Parliament isn't back until next week,
but we catch up with Joseph anyway, see how things
have been over the holiday season.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
This is the muster on Hakanui. Joseph MP is MP
for Southland. Parliament.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Duty to get underway next week, but it's all go
with the nets this week. Joseph, good afternoon and welcome.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Yeah, good after Andy, good to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Happy new year, Yeah, happy new year.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Well under way. Definitely a lot happened in the year already,
it's for sure, and we've got out caucus retreat and
christ Hip starting tomorrow. It's the first time Caucus gets
together for the National Party at the beginning of every year.
This year it's in christ hitch So doing that and
then Parliament kicks off prop next week.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So what happens at the caucus retreat.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
It's a chance for all the MP's to come together
we you know, obviously heaping the leader in the respective
you know, portfolio holders and some important areas and have
a discussion about what we're going to be focusing on
in the year ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So as far as the focus, what are you envisaging
from a southern lens.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Well, we obviously we want to keep the economic momentum going.
We've had some because you know, great sot hapening over
the last couple of years in terms of resetting the
rinks through environment for the primary sector, and obviously the
prices we've been getting the schedules, et cetera, and the
dairy prices have been helped a lot. So obviously want
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to keep that momentum going.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Penny Simmons talked about it last week. Changes to the
ARI may and the seeds have gone down pretty well.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Yeah, it has, yep, and we're looking forward to that
progressing through this year. We're going to be should be
passing passed into wall before the election, and that's obviously
been so much thing or people will be talking about
this for as long as I've been in this roller
for sure, and a lot longer than that. So it's
long overdue and it's great that we've got the the
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coalition votes to get it through.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Now you're based up there in Queenstown, the reports you're
hearing about the traffic situation there, John, I mean you're
hearing what was it ninety minutes from Frankton Roundabout into
town and the lakes. And we've talked about this before,
we're talking about it again the redevelopments of the Frankton Roundabout.
Are we going how long until we can realistically see
a changing in this situation regarding traffic flow around that
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region because it's diabolical.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Look, I'm not living in queens And myself anymore, but
certainly very familiar with Queens and obviously represent it as
the member of Parliament. It's a pretty complicated in terms
of the traffic flow the Frankton roundabout them and they've
still got a couple of years before they completed that
from what I understand from the New Zealand Transport Authority.
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But certainly one of the things I'm advocating strongly for
is getting this gondola project going, which wipe solve everything,
but it will reduce some of the traffic demand on
the existing road network because it's a pretty difficult base
in the the frank in terms of traffic because you've
got a limited geography. There's only so many roads you
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can put around it, and more roads to build you
the more cars will flow down there. So yeah, for example,
they built a bridge just over seven years ago and
that's almost a capacity already across the Cowedo. Those anecess
populations have grown there and obviously it's got a lot
of tourists. But yeah, there's this application at the moment
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for fast Track to build a gondola from Franklin into town.
And that's not the panacea. It certainly would reduce the
amount of traffic that needs to go on the road.
That's that's one thing I'm pushing for.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Do you think there'll be a cap on growth in
Queenstown coming up sooner than later?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Look apart from this natural constraints on growth and you
know the infrastructure required for it, I think it's unlikely.
I think people have been sort of thinking about whether
they can constrain growth for a long time, and it's
the reality is just keeps happening. So the better approach
from my perspective is so actually think about what infrastructure
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we require. And that's I'll put a lobby for the
last year and so helping advocate for a regional deal
for the target Central Lakes region. So that was successful
with that being the only region of the South farm
that's no negotiations with central government for a regional deal.
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So from my perspective, I want I want to see that,
you know, looking at you know, at the transport, energy,
at the medical health care needs for the region and
for education is among a few other things.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Now, it's been a sad start to the year, losing
a couple of names synonymous with the South Jills Redditch
and Duned and answered Tom Shedbolt, whose funeral occurred last Friday.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Yeah, there was a really sad start the year. Both
good men contributed a lot to the South and Jewels
read it obviously originally from my tolder and become a
proud to mid Night and I thought, I've got to
know him quite well when he was mayor of Dunedin
and yeah, he certainly fought hard for the hospital during
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his time and some really good work behind the scenes there.
And then obviously Shadbolt made a massive contribution to the
cargo in to South and.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Three odd decades.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
So yeah, really sad start to the year, but so
good to see them. They're both we were recognized for
the contribution they made to the region.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Hey, good on you, Joseph. Always appreciate you time.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I enjoy the retreat up there in christ Reach over
the next couple of days and Parliament back into it
next week. Always good to catch up. Ah going Ernie
Joseph Mooney, MP for Southland. You're listening to the muster
on hok and Nui. We're away to Glenham next. We're
catching up the Dean Rabbage.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
The muster on the farm with Southland District Council working
together for a Beta Southland.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Dean Rabbage farms at glen and sheep and Bee farmer
joins us for the first time in twenty twenty six
on the muster on this beautiful bluebird afternoon in the
deep South, get a Dean house things.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
You're a very good idiot's certainly stone.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It just puts it all into perspective when you've had
these cold, rather cooler days. I think Friday afternoon we
contemplated putting the fire on. It was ridiculous. Saturday wasn't
a hell of a lot better? Or did warm up
in the afternoon yesterday Sunday. You're very pleasant, but like
I said, that's in a farming context for the middle
of January.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's what you want.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Yeah, it's making life very easy that's for sure. There's
a bit of moisture around, and then get these nice
hot days. The clover is certainly pinging, and there's no
shortage of options. We had to cheft stock too, which
is a bit of a luxury in one.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Pretty fortunate to.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Have, really, I guess.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
So, how would you say ground conditions are compared to
previous januaries. I'm asking a few people this at the moment.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh gee, everything back, But now, yeah, I think probably
compared to the last couple of januaries we've had, we're
in a lot better position. I think in the past
have almost been getting cold or dry or combination of
the two. But no, look, we'll just literally make habile
the sunshines and really enjoy the conditions we've got and
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try and capitalize on some pretty favorable market positions.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
At the moment, Yeah, market's looking pretty good. Are you
looking at going heavier on your lambs as a result
of it? Or is it a case of the states
quite you're meeting your budgets.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You just carry on.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
No, no, we're just going to carry on. As soon
as we get those lambs to the anyway north of
the eighteen kilos, they're going to go, because I know
you can't sort of ring fence a year. You got
to look into the next season already, do I say it? Well,
let's let's call it. We're almost at the end of January.
The rem will begin out yeah again and for around
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two months tur and a half months time, So we
really got to start just looking forward to well, just
looking after the years and the breeding stop, because like
I said before, you can't isolate year after year. You
got to look at it as a as a continuous thing.
So we'll just carry on as per usual and appreciate
the high prices, but we're not going to go chasing
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messive weights to make even more money. You're just gonna
We're going to jeopardize next season before we start.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So what happened with your latest lamb Way, it sounds
like you died in the hole.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Oh yeah, they just short of a double ton, but
not much. Yes, So I've got a third draft going
away this week on Wednesday, so they will be Goodness
is the terminals. We still haven't touched the maternals yet.
We took all the feathers off them and started December
at winning time, which has worked out pretty well to
the point, I've got the years booked and already for
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next year. This has been nice not him to worry
about fly or getting them bagged prior to sharing, and
it takes a bit of pressure for the end of
January for us as well when we're trying to get
all the main share and get done also. So yeah,
it seems to work so far pretty well. Obviously they're
going to have a bit more wolong than coming into April,
but hopefully they will only be a small number of
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crips left and then the remainder will be Capital Socku
Lambs replacements which get shorn again and July prelium. Anyway, Yeah,
it seems to be working all right at it.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
So the Lambs didn't take much of a check pre
Christmas despite being shorn.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Then, Look, it's hard to say because it was the
first time we've done it, so it's sort of hard
to compare. But they always take the every check around
a waning time anyway, so it may have had another
we got in the system. I'm not too sure, but
we ran them all over the conveyor on Friday and
reached them all again for the second time, so yeah,
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we'll have a better sort up next time they come
through the yards. But I seemed to trucking away nicely,
and certainly in these nice hot days that they seemed
to be quite happy out there grazing most of the time.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So it's good.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
And the big thing as well, you mentioned a dean
eliminating the risk of fly striker or reducing it.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Yeah, so what we do. Yeah, obviously all the maternals
were shorn and then all the terminals got sort of
jetted pretty Christmas. So yeah, we haven't had of way
about anything like that, and we don't seem to have
any any effects of that or any impeter fly on
the US, even though they are for wall. So yes,
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one of most thankfulary about because it came in quite
a time consuming job. If you start having those issues,
especially the time of year.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
What did you do as far as work like doing
your sharing pre Christmas though, and what is already pretty
much a stressful month?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Oh yeah, I don't know if there's a NONS just
for muths and farming, is there. Yeah, it increased a
little bit, but then again, like we've saved a week
or three or four days in the yards crushing them
up before you get you the end of the season too,
so it's done all songs a roundabouts really, but we're
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quite heavy with that decision.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah, you talk about budgets for real meat prices all
your will budget, I'd say it'll be above where you
need it to be because talked about this with Jamie
King just before as well the South Island price update
from last week. Another successful sale up there in Canterbury.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, that's really positive. It's still not we needs to
be you don't understund too negative, but at least we're
going to be making a significant margin on the US please,
especially this year, it's going to more than cover costs,
so it's going to be quite a swung from perhaps
having a small loss to break even last year to
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care a significant cash fun picked this year. So it's
really cool and it's obviously heading in the right direction.
So yeah, quite happy with that.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Well.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
This was a commentary that came from the sale last week.
The first South Island sale of a new year saw
significant pressure for buyers to secure volumes to feel new
will will export excuse me business into China and India,
as with all ships in the harbor of to get
lifted on a rising tide. The sale saw the same
for all wall breeds and types, with a very active
demand from the auction floor, and it was interested in
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Note the most crossbred fleeces types now exceed five I
was a prett key Loo clean threshold, not having been
achieved for almost ten years.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yeah, it's pretty exciting, isn't it. So you will get
well onto the store assuring between like the start, we've
just got builders here putting a new roof on the
wallshet at the moment from the one we lost in October.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It's a bit.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Pressure on them. Yeah, we'll get a head all onto
the store pretty quickly as soon as it's often tested
and getting into the system to see what happens from there.
But yeah, it's going to be nice putting those bars
on the truck and you're going to get a positive
return other than another cost of year, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Well, I was going into the positives and not the
negatives as far as the monetary side of things. So
long mate, continue. Hey, the big news regarding you All
Black coaching shake up last week? All this talk about
Jamie Joseph and the likes, what would be your dream
all Blacks combination as far as coaching or is it
too big a process freshly for us to try and
understand because you get all these coaches, all these different
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dynamics change as far as we're all on this staff.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, I know, I know that Jimmy Sinkley, Mark Bryston
and Karen Enerson from Window would probably like to have
a crack at it, But no, I think Jamie Joseph
would certainly bring probably a bit more of a hard
nose edge to the All Blacks, which potentially has been
missing in the last last couple of seasons. I personally
wasn't too disappointed to see Raiser go, but I just
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hope they might have to come a few kettle in
there to get rid of the problem to start with.
So yeah, we'll be definitely an interesting Super Rugby campaign
and watch this space, I guess when it comes to
the All Blacks this season, I guess.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, good to see you quoting some Window names there.
You guys have got a special year as well since
Teneri wise, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, we do. Actually, we've got one hundred and twenty
fifth Jubilee coming up and Enzac weekend this year. So
the boys apparently start training this week, getting quite excited
about it, So yeah, I'm pretty sure that you can
go onto the window break we called facebook page and
follow some links to register if you're next player or
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contributor to the club or just a supporter. Yes, hopefully
can record a quite a good weekend. And obviously with
Anzic dating on a Saurday this year we get Monday off,
so it's a pretty good excuse to make a good
weekend of it.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Are you president this year?
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I am for my sons along with a few other things,
so yep, it's my turn according to the roster. So yeah,
it's quite an exciting and it's pretty cool to be
part of the club and a big year of this.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Do you crack a good whip?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
What do we run a democratic dictatorship?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Dean Trump? There you go. We'll heard it here for us. Hey,
good on your David. Let you carry on and enjoy.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
The thanks there you Rammage farming at Glenham. Yeah, a
lot of rabies ten year was going on this year?
Or do beileeze for that matter? Wind of one twenty
fifth Light DNC go and check out the details. Fraser
Darling's up next. We're talking Perindale.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Ram sales.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
This is the muster on Hakanui, brought to you by
Peter's Genetics. Next, we're catching up with Fraser Darling. It
is that time of year once again, dare we say?
But the Perindale Ramfare is happening of the go Amp
showgrounds at the ram Pavilion tomorrow. Phraser is going to
tell us all about what to expect tomorrow in an
industry that's certainly in an upwards trajectory motion at the moment.
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Is such a word as that Fraser?
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Good afternoon, afternoon, Andy, how are you?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
You're going really good?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Look, it doesn't seem that long to spoke to you
last time, but it comes around quicker than not. But
all of a sudden, you think about tapping season, you
think about rams for the far, you start thinking about
parandales and the likes as well, and I mean a
dual purpose breed.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
A lot of good things come with it.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Yes, indeed, indeed, yeah, no, it's twelve months since we
last spoke, really so yes, tomorrow morning we have the
Parandale ram fear So the steady thirty five top quality
Parandales catalog for sale inspection from eight thirty in the
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morning and the auction starts at teen thirty, So looking
looking forward to a bump of crowd and I'm picking
they'll be as per usual with high demand. This year's
quite a bit of buoyancy in the sheep industry at
the moment. So yeah, it's really looking forward.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
To it because record prices.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
We've we had it last year, I think in the
year before for goodness sakes, So it just seems to
go up by the season. But you look at genetics,
which makes sense, and just the state of play for
the ends have talked about Fraser, then you can see why.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah. Yeah, like certainly amongst breeders anyway, Like I mean
our top top rams sold for nineteen thousand last year
and the average was threets out and five hundred and
something for a few cents for the rest of the rams,
So there is really rams there for everyone from the
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commercial man right through to the top stud you know
animal So yeah, it's certainly an opportunity to get your
hands on some of the best netics around.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Buy us from the North Island. Are they coming down
as in previous seasons, Yes.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Yes, there'll be a number of buyers from the North
Island down there is some North Island Rams into it
as well. They've come to try and take our crown.
But yeah, I'm sure the Southern the Southern Rams will
be right up to the challenge.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well there just as your how things how they rate
the southphase, especially for RAM sales when they're putting their
stock in too, but just to get the genetics out North,
so it's a one win yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
And like all the animals, all the rams are inspected
so Breed Society Society inspected so buyers can buy with
confidence that the animals sound physically. Everything's been vet inspected
as well, so whether you're buying at the showgrounds or
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online through the bidder, you can buy with confident.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
As far as catalogs, what's happening there is it just
online this year.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Look, there will be a limited number of catalogs available
down at the showgrounds tomorrow, but you can you can
download the catalog at Perindale dot co, dot m Z,
the Parandale Exelant website. So it would be if people
did that because as I said, there's a limited number
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at the.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Showgrounds and it's going to be showing on bidder.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Yes indeed, yep. The sales become very prominent on bidder
with I think last year there was nine rams sold
over the bidder system and something like twenty twenty odd bids,
So yeah, very popular and bidd and most breeders have
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got videos IF's not photos of their rams, so people
can look at them today if they so wish, ready
for the sale tomorrow is our case.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
I think you could be mewing a paddock for silag
or bailads and buying a ram at the same time
and your track.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
That Yeah, yeah, I have to be one of the
ones that I have to eat my hat because I
never sort of thought, you know, people would buy buy
an animal without looking at it. But yeah, very very
popular now. And as I said, I'm these animals are
breed inspected and bet checked as well, so people can
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buy them with confidence without actually seeing the animals in person.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Now, I'm going to bring back a quote that you
said a couple of years ago. I said it last year,
and I'm going to say it again. I'm going to
let it give you the opportunity first phraseer to say
what it is.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
I would say that that quote was probably something to
do with sleeping bags, balls and rams.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
And you get for what you pay for.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
In life, you get you get exactly what you pay for.
If you buy a cheap, cheap sleeping bag, you're probably
gonna have a cold night.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
That's one of the greatest analogies I've ever heard.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Oh well, you know, but you know, I just think
it's true. I mean, if you if you want to
spend you know, as cheap as you can on rams
aal balls, generally you're not going to get a great animal,
whether it be physically and or with the ebbs that
are now currently supplied with basically every animal that sold
(33:05):
in New Zealand on the stud side of things. So yeah,
you're looking for that genetic gain to help make your
flock or your herd so much better.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Absolutely so, just once again those details around tomorrow, Fraser,
the people need to remember.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Well inspecting all the rams will be penned at eight
thirty in the morning, so there's two hours before the
ram seal starts at ten thirty.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Hey, good on your Fraser, all the best for the
sale tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
It it's good to catch up, thanks very much, Andy.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Fraser Darling talking about the Pirindale ram Fair being held
the Rampavilium at the AMP Showgrounds tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
You talk about death, life and Texas, well, this is
right up there.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
You get what you pay for in life regarding rams,
balls and sleeping bags.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
That's an absolute gem.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
So get down there if you'll look at some good rams,
some good genetics tomorrow as well. Before we wrap up,
we're catching up with Jason Pine at a New Stork Zeb.
What exactly is going on with this all black coaching
situation we find out next Welcome back to the muster
(34:19):
on Hakanui. Jason Pine, host of Weekend Sport on newstorg Zeb,
joins us after rather hectic week in the New Zealand
sporting landscape.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Piny, good afternoon and welcome to the must.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Thanks and a year nothing like a nothing like a
slow start to the sporting year. We're not getting. We're
not getting that this year. Biggest sports story in terms
of reaction not only on our show, but across social media,
across the news sites, across the entire sporting landscape. Biggest
one I can remember for at least a decade, the
(34:52):
departing aways with Scott Robertson on Thursday. So yeah, lots
to lots to dissect and still probably a lot to
come as we as we try to work out what's next.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
So what, yeah, what's actually the problem here? Is this
a problem though?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Just with New Zealand rugby steaming from the coaching personnel
right through to the hierarchy.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
It's hard to really know for sure without being inside
the environment. But look, put it this way, Andy, it's
it's beyond the scoreboard right because seven losses in twenty
seven test matches, that's a winning percentage of around seventy
five percent across Scott Robinson's time as All Black Sea coach.
Only Rassi Erasmus is South Africa has a better winning
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percentage among international coaches. So I think a lot of
people are saying, hey, well, how can you get rid
of a guy who's got effectively a seventy five percent
winning record? So it has to go digger than that.
And I listened carefully to David Kirk's press conference on
Thursday when he was answering questions about this decision, and
a couple of words stood out. One was trajectory, they
(35:57):
don't believe they're on the right three. And then one
was a phrase when he said this team is not
on track. So clearly within the within the high performance
environment and certainly within the playing group. Off the end
of what I understand was a pretty scathing review at
the end of the end of view tour or the
end of the end of view tour, they've decided change
(36:17):
is needed if they are to get back on track
and to send the trajectory in the in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Do you think player power has something to do with us?
Speaker 9 (36:28):
I think that's the wrong phrase. I think the players
certainly have something to do with But you talk about
player power often you get the negative connotation of of,
you know, the lunatics running the asylum. If you like,
you know that the players are there to play. They're
not the one to select the coach. They do what
the coach sets out for them. But these are high
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performing all blacks, Andy, who have been in and around
this team, many of them for close to a decade,
and they know when things are not right, and that
clearly is the message that's come through. Depending on who
you believe and who you listen to. I heard our
colleague at TV and Z, Andrew Savill say today that
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he understood that ninety percent of the playing group we're
not in favor of Scott Robertson continuing not in favor
of the way he was running the team. Look, when
you've lost ninety percent of your dressing room, there really
isn't a way forward. So look, player power, I think
has been a fairly convenient phrase to be thrown around
(37:33):
for those who want to see something sinister and all
of this. Those players have a limited window to be
successful in their rugby careers and the last thing they
want is for that ambition to be in any way
stymied by the coaching that they are receiving. So yeah,
I think certainly the player feedback formed a large part
(37:54):
of this decision. But to say that somehow the players
pushed their coach out is is factually incorrect because you know,
if the board had wanted to, if David Kirk had
wanted to, they could have, you know, said okay, well
look we take your feedback on board that we're going
to stick with our man. They didn't do that. So yeah,
it formed a part of it. But I don't like
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the phrase play a power.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
I mean, you think there there was only three losses
last year, but the concern seems to be the manner
of the losses.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Would that be fair yeap.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
Very fair. Look, I think the hiding in Wellington and
that's you know, the only way you can describe it
to South Africa was you know, that really laid bare
a lot of problems within that side. And also really
the almost afterwards that was almost as concerning, when you
know coach and captain in front of the media were
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just completely unable to explain what had happened. And then
you know, the lost to England at the back end
of the year. I think that was almost like the
last straw, if you like. Look, if they won that
game and completed a Grand Slam, would Raiser still be there.
I guess you could say maybe, but I think by
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that stage things have got to a point where, you
know where there were serious question mark. So yes, the
other loss, of course was a way in Argentina. Look,
this team had some very good wines under Razor, the
first Test against South Africa up in Auckland, a terrific performance,
you know, twos over Ireland, including a really really good
(39:27):
performance in Dublin in twenty twenty four. But I think
what we've seen Andy is that the results have papered
over some pretty large cracks in that all Blacks Kingdom,
and when those cracks appear, it's often the man at
the top of the tree who has part to allow
them to be fixed. And that's exactly what's happened here.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Now we start the mirror go around regarding the next
coaching person. Now, Pinty, I mean, Jamie Joseph is the
name you're hearing bandied around there trying to get Tony
Brown involved with him. So he sounds like he's locked
down in South Africa. He got very kind of Joe Schmidt.
I mean, there's a lot of good coaches out there,
and I don't know where you really start to go
through this process.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
Yeah, it's it's a very good point because there'll be
a few hands up from it. There'll be others whose
names have been thrown into the conversation who I'm sure
don't have any real desire to get involved. Just on
the Jamie Joseph one, he appears to be the front runner.
But I feel as though Jamie Joseph without Tony Brown
is a very different proposition from Jamie Joseph with Tony Brown.
(40:32):
They worked, They worked very well, you know, in harmony
with one another. Yeah, I've seen all of the stuff
out of South Africa. I haven't seen anything official from
Tony Brown himself to say I'm definitely staying until twenty
twenty seven and lock contracts as we know, and I
can get out of them if you want to. In
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a funny old way, I think if Tony Brown went
to Rassie Erasmus and said, hey, I've got this opportunity
to coach the All Blacks, Rassi Erasmus would probably let
him go. You know, he knows Tony Brown and he
knows how deep Tony Brown's desire is to one day
coach the All Blacks. I've been trying to get inside
Tony Brown's head ever since this happened, and Jamie Joseph's
(41:14):
name has been in and around the conversation, and I
really don't know what he would be thinking. A huge
part of him, I'm sure would think, Okay, well, if
I throw my lot and with Jamie, we're likely to
be in the next All Blacks coaching group, something I've
always wanted. You know, That's one way I could go.
Or I could stay with South Africa, this juggern Order
World Rugby, try and win another World Cup in two years,
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and then that role back at the All Blacks will
still be there for me. So yeah, if it's not Jamie,
I quite like the idea of Dave Rennie being involved.
A guy with international experience at Australia treated dreadfully by
Rugby Australia when he was let go for them to
get Eddie Jones back and we know what a dumps
to fire that turned into. So I like the idea
(41:56):
of Dave Rennie being involved. Joe Schmidt clearly has a
lot of you know a lot of rugby IQ, whether
he's the head coach or just in an around the team.
You know, it won't just be one guy, and it'll
be a team of coaches who who have to work
in harmony to to make sure that the playing group
are getting clear messaging, honest communication and to be fair,
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the buck has to stop at their head coach. And
I'm not sure that was always the case internally anyway,
when conversations were to be had at the All Blacks
under Scott Robertson just to wrap.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Up Piney the black Caps securing their first ever ODI
Series win in Undia, donate attempts. We can underestimate how
big this is for the cricketing landscape.
Speaker 9 (42:40):
Amazing news to wake up to this morning that the
New Zealand side had done this. And you know, winning
a one day series in India is hard enough anyway,
you know, no New Zealand team's ever done it in
the previous seven attempts. But to do it with a
severely undermanned side, a hugely inexperienced side really, you know,
(43:01):
against a pretty decent Indian outfit on Indian tracks is remarkable. Really,
it's a massive feather in their caps. When a lot
of those players as well, and you must remember have
half and eye on the T twenty World Cup. The
one day series was almost a bit of an inconvenience really,
but they went over there and look, you have to
make mention of Darrell Mitchell and what he has done
(43:22):
in the series. Two big hundreds and another score of
eighty four, a strike rate of over one hundred. You know,
a complete all purpose cricketer for New Zealand, Daryl Mitchell.
So yeah, massive feather in the cap of those who
are involved.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
You know.
Speaker 9 (43:38):
Now we turn our attention to the five match T
twenty series against India and the T twenty World Cup
to come, but this has to be a huge confidence
boost for the black Caps those who are staying and
the coaching stuff as well as they look look ahead
to the World Cup in a month or so.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Jason Pine of News Doorgs be weekend sports host. We
can hear you amusing tonight as well from seven pm.
Always appreciate your time, Love.
Speaker 9 (44:00):
It Andy, look forward to catching up again soon. Laugh
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Speaker 4 (44:14):
I normally knock on the fridge door before I open it,
just in case I see a sellar dressing. Here's a
dad joke. My name's Andy Muer. You've been listening to
the muster on Haka noui. We're all over and done
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