The Muster Full Show: 23/01/26

Andy Muir talks to Jamie Mackay, Bryce McKenzie, Nigel Woodhead, Julian Nelson and Phil Duncan.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nathan aber NII had origional four joints us once again,
as he does every Friday here on the Master. Good afternoon, Nathan.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, good afternoon, Andy. And pretty ordinary sort of a
temperature it is out there, although the rains and he'd
probably be quite happy to see that. But let's folk,
there some warm days ahead of us yet, and we
can get a reasonable summer. Hard to believe actually, that
January has sort of gone so quick. Look you are
you and Christmas scene's a distant memory and we're all

(00:26):
back into it and things are taken away pretty solidly.
Of course we've come back to work with you know,
with our minds sort of on the fact that Field
Days I'm far away and every second year is very
important to us. It's certainly a place we do a
lot of business now. And look, I think field Day's
twenty twenty six is going to be a really interesting
one because things are a little bit rosier out there

(00:47):
and not be four times we aren't. So we've always
put a lot of it into the site out there
and get ready for a pretty big three days. But
also not to forget the Gore a MP is coming
up as well, and it's it's always, you know, day
out and a great day to catch up with the
customers into January, February, in March, the first quarter of
the year. We've got some amazing deals happening across Ford

(01:09):
Ranger and Ford Everest. Especially at the moment. We've got
good stocks and of these trucks, so if you've been
thinking about doing something, come in and talk to us and
we'll send you for a drive and show you the
range of what we've got. As well as that on
the used cars, I've got to say the used vehicles
have been really solid through getting probably getting a little
bit lighter new stock. So probably look, if there's anyone

(01:31):
out there that has surplus, you know, sort of later
model used vehicles that you can still think about a
movie on now, we wouldn't mind you coming and talking
to us, and we certainly put a price on it
for you and just see whether that comes up to
the mark and maybe you might want to move it along. Here.
We could do with a few more used vehicles out here,
but there are still good stocks of secondhand commercial vehicles

(01:52):
and plenty of good passenger vehicles coming through. Come and
talk to the team because there's a lot in the
preparation stages as well. But look back into us cently
for twenty twenty six the doors and we open alf
past nine in the morning and throw until twelve o'clock.
But we're only as far as the end of the
phone away, so give us a call in the old time.
In the end, here another Friday down in dusted, just.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
To be out.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Good on your note. It's always good to catch up.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Andy back, Good.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui, brought to
you by Peter's Genetics. We're hear until talk like this afternoon.
My name is Andy Muer on a Friday. As we
look outside, it's rather overcast. It's been wet this morning.
The forecast isn't looking flash Phil Duncan out of weather Watch.
He's along for a chat later on in the hour
to tell us all about the weather for the next

(02:50):
seven days. The music for a Friday as well, it
is Creed. However, this song here is called Open Your
Eyes featuring Treed's lead singer Scott's Stapp with a band
called alter Bridge. Faydays done.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Paknu's five day Forecast with twin Farm tef from and
subtext The proof is in the progeny tef from dot
co dot Inzead It's gone.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's a Friday afternoon is bringing showers of riezysl westerlies
and a high of fourteen. Saturday Raymond breeze sou westeries
nine and thirteen Jeepers Sunday very similar Raymond sou Weasterly
is ten and thirteen and on Monday shell is forming
of West sou westerlies nine and fourteen and Tuesday Cloudy
who lights sou westerlies six and seventeen. So tempages to

(03:42):
hand Clinton sixteen point two, Northern South and seventeen point three,
Rivetons sixteen point five, Tat seventeen point one, Winton and
Woodlands is sixteen point two. Jamie McCoy joins us in
the country Crossover, followed up by Bryce McKenzie at a Groundswound,
New Zealand from Bryce perspective and ground Swels, I suppose
what are they expecting ahead of the election which is

(04:04):
happening later on this year. Nigel what Head Farms in
South Otago talks about the season that he's had to
date so far and how's it comparing to the last
three or four years we traditionally for night. It has
been a bit of a stretch to get that. We
till weather to get the grass growing. Julian Inison's Chasicks
chat as well. He's part of a Tourist South and

(04:24):
the voice of the Tourist South and talks about what
it's been like trying to organize a February tour as such,
and like I say, Phil Duncan out of the weather
Watch gives us an update on the forecast for the next
seven days down here in the South, soout further Ado
will start the hour with Jamie McKay. This is the
Muster until two o'clock thanks to Peter's Genetics, the Country

(04:58):
Crossover with Jamie mca hi. We do this weekly. We
alternate with the team up there in Duneda and Jamie.
Good afternoon. Firstly started for ten named the artist in
the song Oh is it Creed? Yes?

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Oh, that wasn't a bad effort.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah. The song is called My Sacrifice, Right.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Okay, Andy, I've learned something new.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
They're a big band from the early two thousands, are
a mega band actually, But anyway, look welcome to twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
But firstly, this is more of a Nickelback guy. Really,
I know it's very unfashionable to say that there is
a great doco out. I think it's on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's not. It's not great. I've watched it. No, it is.
It is great. They're vindicating Hey, guys, we might not
be good at singing, but we've made a lot of money,
so we can't be too bad. I found it really polarizing.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
Well, there you go. I mean, music's very subjective, and
I know liking Nickelback is totally unfashionable and paints me
in a bad corner. Really, but I will say that
I'll go on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Is worth a look.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
There's a band that was huge but totally marginalized, a
bit like the bee Gees after the disco era.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Hey, Mount Monganui, the landslide that's occurred up there, this
is just a disaster. It's just sad all around.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Oh, it's tragic. It's tragic for those families waiting. We're
told it could be even days before they are able
to repatriate those bodies, and we are talking about bodies now,
and just the tragedy for those people who got there
very quickly on the scene, the people trapped or some
of them were alive for at least fifteen minutes and

(06:37):
then not being able to get them out. That will
just mean nightmares for the rest of your life. Look,
I was up there last week, Andy, and as you
do when you're in Taranga Mount Monganui, you go for
a wander around the mountain. There would have been so
many people are wandering around the mount the keener ones
go up to the top and then back down again.

(06:58):
It's just absolutely tragic. And this is unfortunately the climate
change denials will have a crack at me here, but
it is a sign of the times. Grant mcnational sent
me a piece about just we are getting more extremes.
You can't argue against that. And you know, I really
do fair for parts of the country as we become

(07:21):
more what's the word tropical, So we're going to get
more stuff coming down from the tropics, and the likes
of your Northlands, your Corimandel's Bay of Plenty, East Coast,
those areas are right in the firing line for those
so it's going to have an interesting dynamic on how
and where we grow food in this country.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
And about infrastructure as well. I mean fixing these roads
around the East Cape and the likes the vital links
regarding transport, but the cost that's going to occur over
time is unsurmountable.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Yeah, well that's a key road, that State highway too,
the one that goes that effectively joins the Bay of
Plenty to the Gisban region through a potoguy there through
the Gorge. I've just forgotten the name of the gorge.
I've never been on that road. They tell me it's
a fantastic drive, but I know talking to some Kiwi
fruit people, they're very, very worried about that road being
opened in time for the kiwi fruit harvest to come

(08:16):
off when it starts coming off in the Gisbane area
in March. So they're very worried about that because they
truck daily kiwi fruit to the Bay are Plenty packhouses
and then on to Port Toweronga. And the other thing
is the Gisban region is very much the salad bowl,
the vegetable bowl for the country. So on a daily basis,
we have got fresh produce coming out of that wonderful

(08:39):
growing area, the Poverty Bay flats, and now the only
way for it to get to the main centers is
to go south and through the middle of the North Island,
so it adds an extra I think two hundred and
ten or two hundred and twenty kilometers to the trip.
So yet, look, it is a real issue. Some of

(08:59):
those State Highway thirty five, the one that goes right
up around the cape, and I haven't driven that one either.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's a it's a fantastic crowd. We were there a
couple of years ago. Yep.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
And that's what everyone says, Andy, and it's on my
bucket list to do that. You know, it becomes marginal
whether some of these roads can stay open. I mean,
as brutal as that seems for some of those remote
rural areas, but I guess we've got to make some choices.
It's tough times, but you know, you can fix roads.

(09:29):
You can't you can't fix people. And as you said, Andy,
what happened in Mount Monganui, it just makes you cry.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Absolutely, setting out thoughts to everybody involved with the tragedy
up there. So the election date has been set in
November the seventh. It all starts, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
And that went and that was the world's worst kept secret.
Everyone knew it was going to be November seven. I
joke about the All Black Test match schedule being included,
but they do include that they include major events, sporting events,
major concerts, anything that could take or disrupt that. And
also it's like we would never schedule an election for

(10:09):
the week after a Rugby World Cup final, for instance.
If the All Blacks lose, the nation goes gets tough
on itself and there's a sad feeling and that often
works against the incumbent government. As silly as that seems,
so yep, November the seventh. I mean, I can see
the absolutely see the rationale from Christopher Luxe, and he

(10:30):
wants as long a runway as he can get because
the economy is improving and there's still a long way
to go for some parts of the country. Rural New
Zealand's doing quite nicely at the moment, weather aside. But
I think we will see some of the gains in
the housing market and some of the gains from reduced
interest rates coming in and affecting everyday key with who

(10:52):
will feel better and hopefully have more money in their pockets.
And I don't want to be too tough on Chippy
and the Labor Party, that's one issue, but God help
us if to Party Mari and the Greens in a
coalition government. I just can't see it happening. The only
way I could see Chippy being Prime Minister, Andy, is
if Winston really got the huff over a die in

(11:15):
the ditch issue like age of eligibility for National super
a single one office shoe, and luxA knows this, so
we won't push it. A single one office shoe like
that could drive Winston to the other side. And you
put Winston or New Zealand First and Labor together with
the support from Greens and to Party Mary, and you
have a Labor led coalition government.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Right, you're well connected, Jamie. Why did Razer lose the
job as AB's coach? Was it player power?

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Well, the players are denying it's player power. I don't
know if I'm well connected, but I hear the same
rumors that everyone else says. Look, I do know, I
do know from a very good source that the player
review was scathing. Right, they interviewed twenty all blacks. Not
quite sure how much support he had from that, So

(12:02):
he lost the dressing room as the simple answer there, Andy,
he what and what? What was his test record? Twenty
out of twenty seven was it so he'd got three
quarters of his tests, said one second best winning ratio
behind Rassi Erasmus, who's got the best team and he's
probably the best coach in the world. So I think

(12:23):
the manner, the manner in or at which we lost
to South Africa and Wellington forty three to ten was
almost a capitulation. You don't see that from an All
Black team. Almost it looked like they'd almost given up
in that second half. I think that might have been
the nail and the coffin and obviously England beating us
on the end of season tour. So I think the

(12:46):
interesting story in this is not who's going to be
the next All Black coach, because it's going to be
Jamie Joseph. It's the Tony Brown factor. He came out
and said he's going to honor his four year contract.
Or he said it's my intention to honor my four
year contract. Tony Brown plays golf in our Wenstaff and
the golf group here in Dunedin. I want to get

(13:08):
and chew his air and bore him silly. He won't
say anything, but I just wonder whether there are plans
afoot to try and buy out his contract. But if
I was, if I was Rassi or the South African
Rugby board, the last thing I'd do is let Tony
Brown go because I think he's he's a bit of
a genius, innovative genius when it comes to attacking rugby,

(13:29):
and the All Blacks have been appalling in that space
in recent years. So you couple them up with Jamie
Joseph and get him running the All Black attack and
the back line, and that would make a hell of
a difference. So that's the interesting thing for me. People
are saying, people are saying it's an open contest, but
an open contest with who other than Jamie Joseph.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Jamie will leave it there, go and watch some nickelback
tonight to pyke out for golf tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yeah, and I hope, I hope over the weekend might
ruin golf for some people down south, but I hope
you get some rain because I know it's needed down south.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Jamie McKay in the Country Crossover, Bryce McKenzie, co founder
of Groundswell New Zealand. We check next you're listening to
the muster.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Well.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Bryce McKenzie is co founder of Groundswell New Zealand, and
joins us this afternoon on the muster. Good afternoon, Bryce,
good to catch up. It's been a wee while.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
Yes, it is ending good after the name to you
and to the listeners.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
So the Christmas break has served you well. You menaged
a little bit of time away.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Yeah, got in a bit of fishing and got yeah,
got into some nice fish on the flies, had a good,
good break in that respect.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
And and all of a sudden we fast forward. We're
into an election year. It's going to be a big one.
We're not just Fine zeal And farming, but argue with you,
fyzeal in politics as well.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah, it's going to be a major one. I mean
for us, we're going to be careful just how hard
we push the present government because we don't want to
go back to what we had in the past. That
was an absolute disaster and I don't know that it
would be any better if we ended up with a
left leaning government's Oh boy, doesn't they thinking about other well?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Chris Hopkins more or less acknowledged after the last election
that they were a bit blase about the rural industry
as such. So it doesn't really argue well going forward, No, it.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Does not and yeah, that's quite interesting because I had
a meeting with the Labor Party front bench, not just himself,
there's a number of us, and you know, they were
talking about where they went wrong, and that part of
it was there are it's towards farming and the fact
that they got so bogged down and all the changes

(16:05):
they were making that they actually didn't know within their
own caucus who was doing what, and that's why they
got so fragmented in the finish. So yeah, I was
quite an eye out and at the spend time with.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Them, well federated farmers for example. I think it was
twelve election issues that they wanted to dressed, and I
think pretty much all of them have been. So what
are we looking at as we look for another three
years in the political term regarding the government from a
groundswell leans, what's really grunning your gears? Is there anything
at the moment?

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Look, the tree things still an ongoing issue and when
we went to Wellington we certainly talked to the ministers
about that. And so are farm plans. You know, I
guess with farm plans they've got to be really tailor
made to a farm and it's just one of those

(16:58):
things with farm plans. But if you're not having any
effect on the waterway, in other words, your water quality
is good, what is the use of having a farm plan?
And you know, talking to Andrew Hoggart about this, it
was like he was saying that this is a license
to farm. So it's a bad state of affairs if
we need a license to farm, And why they don't

(17:20):
turn it back over to catchment groups and let catchment
groups do the monitoring and keep the noses out of
what they're doing other than set some bottom line limits.
And trends aren't going the right way, then perhaps they
need to step in and have a lot. But I

(17:40):
think we're getting far too via a crownic over all
this where you know, if you get good good catchment
groups and goodbye, and then you do certainly get some
really good action from it.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, change proposed changes to them perhaps starts to address this.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Well, there's a lot of fishaloks in the RNA also,
and that will certainly be so admitting on that, and
we'll be asking other people to submit on it, so
it may address some issues. But yeah, no, I don't
really want to get into it too deeply. That there's
certainly some major freshopsunner and we talked to Chris Bishop

(18:19):
about it where we're up there about some of the concerns,
but whether they address them or not, I wouldn't be sure.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, like, I'm not going to push your buttons regarding
this one then, Bryce, because like you say, you don't
want to get into it. But let's be honest. If
he's a couple of issues here that are eating away,
what's one thing that needs to be looked at.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
Well, certainly the some of the fast tracking, but there's
some particular sections in the RIMA that I'm not going
to address. The problems we've got with significant natural areas
and that sort of thing. They're only skirting around the

(19:00):
just they haven't actually doubt for them, and that's a
real concern. The only gration that is perhaps that that
council designate significant natural area as a provisor there. I
don't know how bader tight it is that they will
have to compensate farmers for it, so that may have

(19:22):
stopped that sort of thing from happening. But sit scenarios
significant to MARII, there's not too much on that, but
because what we're looking for is something that's definitive, but
all those things are a little bit open ended at
the stage, but there are some good things on it
as well.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
That was one of the questions I had written down
here Bryce regarding fast track legislation. I mean, the arguments there,
and there's a lot of infrastructure happening at the moment,
polarizing for a lot of people, and I think the
concern is the lack of dialogue. I mean, there's one
thing to put infrastructure in there, but anyway you need
to be in you need to be in direct dialogue

(20:03):
with those who are going directly affect.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Yeah, that's absolutely true, Andy, And I mean we have
a bit of a concern when it comes to the
standing of regional councils. And you know, we all think, well,
that's great, get rid of zureaucracy. But that's fine, but
you know, ultimately you have to have somebody that you
can talk to and somebody that can actually put your

(20:26):
thoughts to governing body. So you know at this stage
the meeting that it could be mayors that do it. Well,
you know there's some mads that wouldn't have a clue
about farming and agriculture. How are they going to speak
on behalf of the rural community. And we did actually
talk to Chris Bishop about that. So you know, I think,

(20:51):
you know, it's all very well, fast stranging things that
you've got to actually be able to still have communication.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, Laurie, you bring up the issue of counsel amalgamation.
What does ground Swell think about this? What's the stance.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
Look, we're pretty much sitting on the fence, except for
the fact that we do have some reservations about how
it is going to be set up. I'd say pretty
much we aligned with Federated Farmers at this stage. Let's
just watch this face. But you know, let people be
able to have a say and what does happen. I'd

(21:25):
hope to think it'll be mandated one way or another.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
So once again we talked about fast trekking before. You've
got a real concern that these amalgamations that go through
and there hasn't been the proper process followed as such.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
Well, I think that there's still opportunity for that. I hope,
and I mean, I'm sure we're going to get some
guidelines come out, but hopefully there will be opportunities to
have that consultation period and hope the problem with consultation
and it's just going to be a tick box exercise.
We all know it to waste the tie. But if

(21:57):
it's actually going to be listened to and the actually thought,
then I'm just very valuable consultation.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Just finally, I know you like your crack out the
black Caps. Can they win the T twenty World Cup
that's coming up?

Speaker 6 (22:09):
Oh gee? I mean they got shown up a little
bit first T twenty game against India, but I mean
we could accept that because man, wasn't the fifty stuff brilliant? Yeah,
the first time for a New Zealand team to win
a series Monday. That's just interested. But you know you

(22:30):
said much fifty over game. It's getting a bit boring
on the gate.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I'll stop it. I will not have those vulgar words
come out of your mouth. Bryce McKenzie, Groundsown, New Zealand.
I'll leave it there. I always appreciate your time. You
go and wash your mouth out of soap. Thanks for that,
Bryce McKenzie of Groundswow, New Zealand. You're listening to the
muster next for a way to catch up with nigera

(22:57):
woodhead farming in South Otago between buck Cluth and Milton
see how the moisture levels are looking over his nick
over around his neck of the woods. Welcome back. You're

(23:21):
listening to the muster and Hakanui, brought to you by
Peter's Genetics. We're away to South Otago now nigea woodhead
farms over that way between Balcluth and Milton. Nige. Good afternoon.
How are you?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, afternoon Andy. Yeah, we're took a long got too bad?
Thank you? Are we going all right?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Now? Everybody's talking about either needing a bit of rain
or being over rain. We're about what's your situation?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
We're about in the middle. Yeah, no, I appreciate the
I'm going a few mates in northern South and there
apparently they're struggling for struggling for moisture, So definitely thinking
about them, because that's last few years it's usually been us.
But we're going really good this year. In another sixteen
mills yesterday, just to fill things up a bit more
so we took along pretty well.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's shet.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, things are. Things are looking.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Good because normally from this time, as I remember you saying, awesome,
hasn't been all that giving as far as the weather
side of things. Over the past couple of seasons. Are
you saying any difference of January to allay your concerns.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, it's usually hot in driveway now and we're starting
to bail on stall ms and starting to worry. But
I had a phone call from the agent the other day.
There's one guy sort of locally a year who's bored
away our store arms the last few years and he's
looking for them again, and I said, sorry, mate, I
want to finish all our lams this year. So it's
a good it's a good conversation to hear. I suppose. Yeah,

(24:42):
we're just November, we were dry or we were really
struggling in November and early December, and then it rained
just before Christmas. We had eighty odd mills and we
just keep getting top up since then. So it's good.
The crops are cranking, things are hammon stock are doing
really well. Just got some lambs in the yards at
the moment, and they'd even smaller, you know, early thirty

(25:02):
kilo lambs thirty thirty two kilo lambs are square across
the back, so they're growing. You know, they're doing well.
That's a that's a good place to be. But they see.
You know we could do some peat stock and enjoy
heat this time a year to get them really taken along.
We're doing all rightful feed So yeah, like I'm not
complaining about heaving the rain, but if I hit my

(25:23):
weight in would turn the temperature up a bit. But yeah,
we'll take what we can get. And yeah, like we
killed killed six hundred lambs at winning, which is double
what I've even done in the past. I pretty stoked
with that. You know, we went half of them will
win later, like I need a couple of weeks ago,
so you know, winning a weave it later helps helped matters.

(25:44):
But yeah, it's good. It's good to have a good
chunk of lambs away and some cash in the bank.
And yeah, we've got these sort of twenty odd hiccne
is a summer crop, which some of that it's not
looking as flashers i'd like, So we're just waiting for
it to come along a little bit more. Probably middle
of next week we might get some work lambs onto
the air and the all of a sudden that'll take
the pressure off past is a wee bit more too.

(26:06):
By the time we put thousand odd lambs on on
summer crops.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
So when do you look at sharing lambs, well, do you.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I just think just think about that this morning. Sorry,
the local helicopter men's fly. I know you can probably hear.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
The bad noises everything. It's good.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
It's the joys of the joys of living next doorter
helicopter contractor nothing.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
They likes like you say, lambs sharing, What are you thinking?

Speaker 3 (26:33):
I was thinking about it this morning and wondering whether
I share ether for the first time in a long time. Actually,
but I texted them sharing contractor there a while ago.
I mentioned about doing some work slams next week. But
with all those week whether I can imagine he'll be
behind the eight ball, so I might ring him the
next start or to for a year. And CEO is
getting on and make a plan. So yeah, I'm not

(26:56):
really giving you an answer because the answer is I
don't really know. The plan was just to share the
small works lambs, which is what I've done the last
few years. So we're running all the lambs through the
yards at the moment, taking the U lambs off and
then just drafting the works lambs by eye, just taking
the taking the smaller probably corner off the bottom and

(27:17):
usually we'd just share them, but I'm actually wondering whether
we just boring and share everything. Terminals are all having
a better terminal wall, and there finds the finds the lineup.
A wee bit might get around that thirty under thirty microns,
and the price is pretty good, and it might actually
pay for itself when you put the extra yield and

(27:39):
extra growth trade on top of it as well, when
they're sure.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
And so.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't actually knows the answer, but there are all
the things I'm thinking about.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, remembering lambs shearing. Once upon a time, it used
to be just the U lambs and the runts of
the tail and Charlie's maybe one hundred and fifty there.
You've got them over and done with and everything else,
perhaps just gave them a half belly, and the way
that the works they went. But in this day and age,
you're wanting to maximize the growth on your lambs, and
everybody's getting the feathers off all their animals, so you

(28:10):
wouldn't be you wouldn't be the only one thinking along
those lines. If it occurs, yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, we'll see, like the ulambs, well, we won't do
the U lambs until later in February instead of try
and just leave the elite fluff on them until so
second third week of February, I'll probably the end of
February day and then yeah, I find just sharing them
away bit later sort of sets them up a bit
better for hopefully getting a few to the rim and

(28:38):
then slightly less well gone through the winter and then
we'll shed them again and to the end of August.
So yeah, there's only work slams to do, and yeah,
there'll be probably two thousand of them or something, So yeah,
if Dan can send as force for reasonable shares, we
might even be able to feel them out in the day.
So yeah, I might even just say to them, we'll
just do a day's a day's work slams sheeping and

(29:00):
see what they can get done. But I don't know, Well,
I'm sort of focusing on like getting the willing through
the yards at the moment, and once they through the
yards and I've had a count, I've got a good
telly on everything, then I'll I'll start making a plan.
But like I say, even pettis that are short, you
know at the moment, like we were pretty short at weaning,
you know, the fee head is there is quality, and
there's there's clover and amongst it, and you know it's

(29:23):
just like little short green leaf, which is what lambs
loved this time of year. So like I say, stock
are doing well and that that makes a difference. And
with the schedules the way they are if we share them,
but the extra grow through it, like the wall should
pay for the sharing this year hopefully, And you know,
an extra a couple of hundred grams or half a
kilo on a carcass this year is yeah, it's worth

(29:47):
quite a bit when you're when you're you know, times
it out by how many lambs you got, you know,
with the leap ten dollars, fifty or whatever it is
schedule at the moment, so you sort of start thinking
about how you can maximize it.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
They just throughp It sounds like you're pretty much just
skipping through the gateways at the moment, and the seasons
are aligning, it's like, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Don't know, like you don't want to sky because I
know these guys around struggling with drawing things.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
But.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, no, we we're we're pretty good. It's good to
be in a position where we have the ability to
make decisions, you know, like yeah, you yah, last few
years it's sort of been no well self store lambs,
the decision has made for us. But now we've you know,
I've got the option or do I share or do
I not? Do I put them on crop this week
or do I put them on crop next week? And yeah,

(30:34):
it's good to be able to make positive decisions. So
that that where we're taking along good. And you know,
like it's easy to getting out of bed to go farming.
You know when you know the next level lembs are
going to kill going to be worth you know, well
north ten dollars a kilo and eight kilos you know
works for THEMS one hundred and ninety odd dollars. It's

(30:55):
might even be more than that. Yeah, it's like I know,
not only were going to survive, but we're going to
have a put the money to bank to and be
speaking our business and hopefully pay some deet off.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
And all of that.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
So look, things that take along pretty well in your
long continue.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Hey, good on your nightge. We'll let you go through
skimming across those gateways. Get that drafting down, we'll catch up.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Again, good man.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Nie niger Wardhead Farming in South Otago. You're listening to
the Muster before you wrap up this afternoon Phil Duncan
from weather Watch, but next to talk about the tourist Southland.
He is the voice of Cycling and Southland. Julian Innocon.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
Were gone to.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Welcome back. This say is the Muster on Hakanui. Julian
Inoson is the voice of Cycling Southland as well as
a president of Cycling Southland for that matter as well,
and joins us this afternoon as we look at the
sixty ninth SPS Tour of south on the rescheduled version. Julian,
good afternoon, and welcome good afternoon.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
Thanks very much for having me.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, appreciate your time. It's been a hectoricuick for everybody
involved with the tour. This talk logistics help. What was
it like logistically to move the tour from October to
the present.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah, it was a.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
Mammoth, yes, and I think a lot of people felt
that it was just a matter of finding a date,
but we knew there was a lot of other things
that had to align and we were very fortunate that
they did traffic management, for example, being available the accommodation
at this time of year, that includes not only in
the Vicago but right up in Tiano as well, and
of course the medical teams, the volunteers, and then ultimately

(32:40):
also the type of quality of writers that would be
available at this time of the year, so they all
had to be taken into account. Unfortunately the stars aligned.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
So as far as the writers who were who you
wanted to get to the event? Did you get everybody?

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (32:52):
We started with sixteen teams back in November. We can
only continue to have sixteen teams all back on board.
Certainly a change around on some of the right we
lost some due to injury, sickness and other commitments, but
it's certainly picked up another a group of new writers
that are of high quality. So it's been a great field.
And as an example, Josh Brennette, the two time defending champion,

(33:12):
couldn't have written it in November had broken his arm.
Now he's back at actionally he's in the Orange Chursy
going to Bluff today.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
So what is it that makes a tourist Southland so unique?

Speaker 7 (33:23):
I think there's a few things there. When you talk
to anyone that's either watched it or knows a little
bit about it or ridden it, they'd come up with
a key couple of key things. Bluff Hill would be
one of those things. The type of course and the
weather that goes with it. Definitely, the southern hospitality and
that they know that the volunteers and they are very
passionate about it. The community is extremely passionate about it.

(33:43):
And there's not too many races in the world that
you can go to where you have the streets lined
with the school kids, with the public and the businesses
in behind. I mean, we've seen some awesome things happening
this week. One of the cameramen, for example, was camera
falling apart on him as he entered through into Winton,
got off the motivating and thought what am I going
to do about this? Steve Geary Engineering there, who's been
a local sponsor for a number of years, jumped across,

(34:05):
grabbed it, took it into the engineering fram and fixed
it up and got them going once again. So yeah,
it's those sort of things that happen behind the scenes
that make a huge difference and just shows you the
passion and the commitment of the community to make this
thing happen.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So the community aspects is one thing. Obviously, the schools
aren't back into play at the moment, which has been
a shame. But I suppose for you guys as well,
Julian word of mouth by these entrance from overseas as
a big thing.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
Oh well, yeah, of course, you know you're looking at
an historic piece of racing. This has gone since nineteen
fifty six. It's Australasia's longest running tour and we always
had writers in the past and we currently do have
two real tour writers and they are the ones who
are written at the top of the eschelon there. They've
written in the Voio, so they've written in some of
the biggest races with those Tour de France writers who

(34:52):
are now at the end of their careers and they're
joining here in the tour and that so just shows
you the high regard that it has held. But you're right,
lot of root amounts amongst the riders, the TV coverage,
the media coverage and so forth. Root gets out there,
but it's well established and it said, they know it's
well organized and they're well supported them minute they get
off the planes, get out of the cars and arrive

(35:12):
here and then for cargo.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Another thing as well as the course is they change yearly.
This year there's no gravel course through the Glennule, which
some people are saying is a bit of a shame,
but I suppose feedback from the entrance as well comes
into the equation.

Speaker 7 (35:27):
Yeah, there's a mixture of things there that we looked at.
So we've certainly mixed up the stages and particularly the
orders of the stages, and it's not an easy thing
just to switch a change around in a stage with
all the traffic management that's involved as well. And yet
there's definitely those all for gravel and those against it,
and that the weather conditions can make a difference whether
it can be available too on the day if it's

(35:48):
raining overnight and so forth. But yesterday going over the
Josephil and dropping down the other side, and then now
it's it's a balf and so forth and out. Things
certainly didn't deter from making a very good stage.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
From a southern perspects of Josh Burnett defending champion, he's
looking good. Marshall Lurwood was the leader after the first stage.
What are you looking at for the for the conclusion
of the event from a southern lens.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
Yeah, I think certainly today it's going to see some
significant changes possibly made in the overall for the general classification.
Bluffhill offers a lot of opportunity and it just depends
on how the leagues of the riders are feeling, how
their teams are feeling as they enter into the base
of the hell Anders that there's a number of key
climbers in there. So Josh, he's still got his work
cut out. But we know he's a very good time

(36:30):
trialist and that's going to be happening the next morning,
and I think that's a huge asset that he's got
on his side. But likes as I mentioned earlier, Dibar
from Australia, who's leading in the under the over thirty five,
so who's also third overall at about thirty nine seconds.
This guy has climbed some of the biggest climbs in
the world as a real tour rider in the past,
so he's going to be watching for the likes of him.
We know he's a very good time trialist as well.

(36:52):
And from a Southern perspective, I mean it's historic this week.
I mean I've been involved in this two hours coming
up twenty five years and I've never ever seen three
Southlanders over the week we're the Orange Jersey so we've
had some course Tom Sexton early in the week, Marshall
Erwood and of course Josh and I think that's just
an outstanding effort in the South and all three of
them I wouldn't count out for the stage victories in

(37:12):
that as well. At this point in time, pticuarly coming
into in Vicago, I can see likes of Sexton and Rwood.
Would love to be able to take that one out.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Just finally, cycling is a sport in the South. It
looks to be in.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
Pretty good heart here were Cycling South and extremely well
established as one of the oldest clubs in the country
and where we've got a glove of core volunteers that
put a huge amount of work across the board. And
of course we host a lot of things cause New
Zealand's first ever indoor valodrome and we've got the New
Zealand Track Nationals not too far away in the first
week of March as well, so we're kept extremely busy,

(37:44):
that's for sure. We get out into the schools and
get into the community there.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
We've got a.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
Great reputation and I'm very respectable with the likes of
a lot of our funders such as the ilt Ilt Foundation,
the Community Trust etc. And that get in right and
behind us and ensure that we can get out there
and promote the sport. Just get people on two wheels.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Hey, Julian, thanks very much for your time and the muster.
We know you've flat out and congratulations once again to
you and the committee on a fantastic event and we
look forward to seeing how it all finishes it up
this weekend.

Speaker 7 (38:14):
Thanks very much, much appreciated, Julian Inoson.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Here is the voice of cycling in south and the
Esbus Bank tourist Southland with the Bluff Hill infamous Bluff
Hill Climb happening this afternoon. You're listening to the Muster
before we wrap up. Phil Duncan on Sundime. This is

(38:43):
the muster before we wrap up for the week. Let's
catch up with Phil Duncan of weather Watch. Phil don'tkn

(39:09):
of weather Watch, Good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Greetings to you. How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, look, I'm not too bad. Welcome to Friday, Friday however,
whatever you want to call it, but for us, so
let's just look at the week. There's been very hectic
from a weather perspective. Up there in the North Island,
there's devastating flooding in this tragedy of Mount Monganui. Are
we going to see some respite up north regarding the
weather fill.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Yeah, we mostly will. There is still plenty of showers
on the way and gale force winds for the North
Island over the weekend, and so we could be seeing
a few thunderstorms and these strong winds. The difference is though,
as far as like you know, damage is concerned from rain,
it's going to be very isolated. So there could be
more slips, there could be more trees down because the

(39:54):
ground is saturated and so it doesn't take a lot
to change that make things worse. But overall it's definitely improving,
you know. And as we go into next week, apart
from a few big thunderstorms around here and there, it
should be a lot calmer up in the north of
the country.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
So down here in the South, the summer of discontent continues.
Some people are wanting rain, some people are wanting sunshine.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
What have we got, Well, you've got some rain.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
On the way. Yeah, Southland is now pretty much the
driest region in the country. Who would have thought, you know, yeah,
you've had more high pressure down towards you. While the
high pressure zones are dragging in these colder airflows, they're
not dragging in a huge amount of rain. And so
the forecast over the next week does change that there
are the southerlyes coming in. Temperatures are going to go

(40:44):
down again. Unfortunately, it's not looking like a very warm weekend,
and next week does warm up a little bit. Wednesdays
looking like it will get over the twenty degree mark,
but most days are you know, thirteen fourteen degrees sort
of daytime temperatures plenty of where they're coming in Tomorrow
and Sunday, and so that's going to help. There could

(41:04):
be thirty forty millimeters of rain coming through, so I
think that'll be very good timing. And by the end
of the weekend, by the time we kick off next week,
last week of January, I would imagine every region in
the country won't need rain, which is kind of a
crazy thing to be saying out loud in the middle
of summer, but that's.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
Where we are this year.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Trying to crystal bull gaze a couple of weeks ahead.
The southern field days are happening at Waimoumo. Fill any
indicators for what February is going to present, well, I think.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
What we are going to see, and this may be
a good thing for you. It's sort of a double
edged sword. We've had a lot of high pressure south
of Australia, south of New Zealand over the last wee while.
That's why we've seen so many thunderstorms and rain makers
further up north in the country. What we're seeing is
we go into the end of this month, in the
start of February, is that high pressure belt finally sort

(41:56):
of moving up into the Tasman Sea, more likely to
be crossed central and northern parts of the country, and
that placement brings in northwesterlies out of Australia. But the
downside is when the next high pressure zone comes in,
it's more like you a dragon a sutherly change or
a south westerly kind of change. So we are seeing
that potential going into February. The first of Febriar at

(42:18):
this stage looks as though there are westerly winds coming
back in again, and so westerlies are certainly warmer than
the southerlies, but that cold boundary is quite close to
New Zealand. So I think, you know, one way to
look at it is it could be a little bit
autumn like with those sort of westerly winds blowing through
a lot. I think that's how February is going to
be kicking off in Southland, westerly winds returning high pressure

(42:43):
further up into the Tasman Sea, further up around northern
New Zealand. So it won't be as cold and there
will be some hotter days in there. But the autumn
side of it is that we'll probably still see these
cold fronts brushing Fijordland, bringing rain to Fiordland, and then
of course a cold front means the air block behind
it gets cold. So I think we're in a bit
of an unsettled pattern going into February. I don't really

(43:04):
see any big dramatic changes coming through as far as
the weather's concerned. No big high pressure zones are going
to be parked over us for two weeks or anything
like that.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
A lot of people experiencing a lot more wind at
the moment than what they're used to for the time
of year. Is this just a continuation of the season.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
It is, and you know we've got the sudden stratospheric
warming that happened over Antarctica way back in winter. And
what that did is it just it loosened the boundary
that keeps all the cold air stuck around Antarctica. Normally
at this time of the year, most of it's hugging
well further south, hugging Antarctica. This year it's wavy over

(43:42):
the Southern Ocean these sort of ups and downs, and
those ups are when that cold air comes up into
lower parts of New Zealand, and that is still happening
going into February. We're also seeing tropical cyclone risks to
the north of the country. But like I say, high
pressure it looks as though it's going to be tracking
over the North Island as we go to the end
of the month, and that could bring in some warmer

(44:03):
airflows for you. But I think the westerlies and the
wind still going to be off and on. And that's
what I mean by a bit of autumn. Like you know,
and New Zealand does get cold changes, you know, Southland.
I would expect southmend to be getting a cold change
every week or two, regardless of what sort of weather
pattern we have most years. But this year. It does
seem a little more aggressive because the southern Ocean where

(44:23):
the pattern is a little bigger and messier than usual
Fiel duncan.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
So that's our stat for the end of January. Southland
is the only region in New Zealand in these rain
Yeah pretty much.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
I mean, other than the very far north of the
country is still maybe a little dry. They didn't get
all the heavy rain that the rest of Northland got.
But yeah, you guys are pretty much the largest region
with the driest weather. I'd imagine next week when we
talk that won't be the situation anymore. There are a
number of days of Southerly's coming through and that's really
going to drive in some wet weather.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
For you, Feld, uncle of weather Watch. We always appreciate
your time on the must making yourself available as you
do and joy the weekend, sir. Catch up next week.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Cheers mate, you too, have a good one.

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