The Muster Full Show: 29/05/26

Andy Muir talks to Matt McRae, Andrew Cochrane, Phil Duncan, Michelle Watt and Mark Kelly.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nathan Abernethy of Regional Ford catches up as it is
a Friday afternoon, get a nathe.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeaday andy and nice to see the sun shining again,
or we've at Christmas morning. But I definitely get some
good days and hopefully all those that have come along
to air Fairtown for the week and what a big
week it is with tussock country and gold guitars and
everything else going on, are enjoying themselves and keeping themselves warm.
Though it's not something we're known for over King's Birthday
or Queen's birth the weekend in the past is getting

(00:27):
the salves of sun ten or anything like that. It's
definitely usually on the call side. But we've got to
be pretty happy with a day like this, I think.
But look it's all going of course, we're pretty lucky
behind glass around here at Regional Ford. It's another month,
isn't It's another month's done dust and a lot of
registration has gone on, a lot of delivery has been
made in the last few days and it's really busy,

(00:48):
so we're really happy with that. There's lots of used.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Vehicles coming in.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It seems to be the thing at the moment and
the way that the ship's run with shipping these new
vehicles is nowadays they all seem to arrive at once,
so all the new vehicles arrive at once, and of
course they all go out the door, and all the
second hand flows us up. And we've got tons and
tons of great stock, lots of great double cabs. We've
just had a twenty fourteen Ford Ranger super cab forward
drive come in flat deck six speed manual three point

(01:13):
twenty five hundred diesel, including this team really tidy truck
in white. So that'd be a great truck for somebody.
And we've got the flat decks. We've got to try
that flat deck that's about to go out in the
next few days for around eighteen thousand for a I
think it's a two seventeen to eighteen four drive diesel
double cab manual. We've got all price bracket, you know,

(01:34):
we've got a lot of six second hand Ranger next
year three lead of E six diesels coming in at
sort of in that early the mid forties price bracket
en up, so we're well, it just come through the
door actually at the moment as well, so SA five
Highlaks with the SARS and all sorts, so yeah, a
really good mix there. So if anybody's thinking about doing something,

(01:56):
I think you'd go a long way to find a
bigger range of commercials in south and even nearly your
targo than what we've got on the yard here and
around us. So come in and talk to anyone of
the team. Of course, don't forget we've got finance on
the spot. We can make it really easy for you
and affordable and have you drive away in a late
model or even a new vehicle today. So as always, yeah,

(02:18):
we're going to be Headle after five. Makes you not
one hundred percent sure when the doors are open on
this long weekend tomorrow, but look eir F phone's always
on anyway, so feel free to give us a call
anytime over the weekend if there's anything we can do
for you. Don't forget the guys up there in Balclutha
for Ford and Bridgestone Tires as well.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Good on your notes, enjoy the weekend you too, Andy.
Thank you, good afternoon and welcome to the master on Hacknui.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Andy me are here until two o'clock. The show is
brought to you by Peters Jenennis. Welcome along to a
bluebird afternoon and Gore it is cool and crisp. The
freezer bits off. Busking is happening on main Street. I'll
just say to the lady across the road there who's
playing the food, I hope you have a jacket, certainly
because the shiver is looking at you. But the crowd
that's surround at the moment, it is certainly the vibe

(03:15):
as Tussit Country continues over the weekend. And if you're
a visitor to Gore, welcome. I hope you enjoy your
time down here in the Deep South. As we crank
on with things. Michael Jackson, I haven't played Michael Jackson.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
On nearly five years doing this program, so it's the
first time for everything.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
S Pokanus five day forecast with twin farm teff from
and subtext. The proof is in the progeny teff from
dot co dot in Sead.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
This afternoon sunshine, the calm, variable winds and a high
of eleven. Saturday cloudy, you have come variable winds four
and twelve. Sunday cloudy, will light nor easterlies ten and eighteen.
Monday showers a light nor easterlyes nine and fifteen. It's
all over the show Tuesday showers, a breezy nor westerlyes
five thirteen, the lot of frosts and that forecast that's

(04:04):
what you see right. Oh. The other thing here a
bit of bring up very quickly as well, it's sold temperatures.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Here's a bit of m jan to do that. Here
we go hereriet At six.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Point six, Northern south On six point five, Robertson ten
point four, now seven point three, Tinderoer ten, West Otago
six point six, Winton five point three and Woodlands eight
point six. Matt McCrae of Macareda starts us off this afternoon,
followed up by Andrew cochrane of any his Fetes Teit

(04:35):
Ceiling Season and full Swinging and catch up with Cocky
to see how.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Things have been and so they have been pretty busy lately.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Phil don'tkin of weather Watch looking at the forecast for
the next seven days down here in the South, followed
up by Michelle Watton. This week's country Crossover, and we're
wrapping up with Mark Kelly, sports producer at New Salk
ZB talking the wires ahead of the big top of
the Table clash with the Penrith Panthers. This weekend, So
without further Ado will start they hour next with Matt McCrae.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
This is the Muster. It is brought to you by
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Speaker 5 (05:13):
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Branch is in Lawnville, Gore, Cromwell, Milton, and Ranfurly. Drop
by your local Agri Center South Branch today.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Matt McCrae is farming just out of Macreta or around
Macarita and joins us once again. Good afternoon, Matt, Matt.
We've got blue sky around us here and Gore. It's
a pleasant day and just continues the vibe for the
end of autumn.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
The afternoon Andy as much the same down here, to
be fair, the sun's breaking through and even the cool
winds that we've had for the last few days is
I'm dropping away, but just looking at the forecast last night,
looks what we won being for a good long weekend
for a change, it should be good. But yeah, certainly
in a not a bad month, the parts of it
that I've been home, and yeah, we certainly still had

(06:03):
one hundred miles for months, got it. Yeah, things are
settling into the winter routine pretty.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, so your rainfall Telly for the year. It's on
targeted on onln't side, Tiger, but it's where it normally is.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
Yeah, it depends what your target as I suppose, but
we're just sure six hundred miles for the years. I'd
say that's probably, if anything, slowly up on the last
few years. But it all seems to be nice ifully
gone to hold above average for the winter and get
a good good spring. You live and hope, don't you.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
So the reels around at the moment. You've got the
transitioning going on to crops. It's all going to plan.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
Yeah. So we've obviously had the US borne the wharf
for a while now, rains are pulled out of them
and coming out of the hoggets. Today's got a few
fence are set up in front of them, start picking
them what electricity is against and then yeah, they've had
had a few dairies, tards and cows turning up obviously

(07:04):
this time of the year and in their angus stairs
are all on crop and behind the wine now too, yes,
and one to everything seems to be about behaving and
the crops are eating mostly pretty well. So the director
of Swedes are exceptional which is good. And yeah, the
stocker content.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
What would you say the crops are on par with
other seasons.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
I was probably a nervous early on was how when
it got around to see the women were selling them.
But yeah, the swedes have done really were the cows. Yeah,
probably average. I'd say swedes would be above average, but
like some of them adding tone which for the precision

(07:47):
sound director crops, it's pretty good. So there's not a
lot of costs in that fire De Bait had a
really good strike on it and it looks really healthy.
There's probably the bulb sizes aren't quite what they'd like
to be, but we don't have a lot of beat.
It's just just hold some of those beef kettle through
the spring until we get through the bulk of lemmings,

(08:08):
and yeah, they will spread them out once for a
socker lemming's been done through the years and try to
maximize it. Pasture cub so.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Far a beat for you. Not a traditional winter crop.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
We've grown up on and off for quite a few years,
but like we're probably a worse strike grea. It's been
their best yield, but most of the time we've kind
of sit around that twenty ton, which is a way
bit frustrating when you probably overdouble the cost of growing
swedes and growing a similar yield. But I guess the
main benefit for us is a quality of feed in

(08:41):
September and they do grow slightly faster on it the
stock on it, So yeah, those vetnank schttle will stay
on there in the spring when briscas would traditionally go
philly hard and they grow to actually drop back, So
it certainly has its purpose. I just personally like to
have another five or ten ton for what we throw

(09:03):
it up on the bottom line of the yield.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
And you're taking the opportunity at the moment as well.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Met to finally get around a few of those tree lanes,
tree lines and need tidied up from last spring.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Yeah it's pretty hard in their system to find quite
a month, but yeah, been getting away of a fencing
done this week, have the three trimmer here and obviously
getting the last the one tidied up that come down
and the springs. You got a weave of a fencing
projects on the go at the moment. So it seems

(09:35):
to be a bit of electric fencing in the morning
and a bit of permanent fencing and gets in the afternoon.
But that'd be good because yeah, getting around the euser
all on four day breaks every few days to get
a break from it and get a few jobs tidied up.
So things are starting to slightly look normal again around here.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
As far as feeding out at the weekends and there,
what do you do? You change your system at all?
A case of Sunday is just another Saturday, which is
another Friday, and Tuesday, Wednesday, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
A bit of that, like brawn structure sheep breaks so
they can shift them on a Friday or Monday. It
doesn't always work that way with the way the paddict
and where there are, but Kettler traditionally daily shifts the
dairy stock in particular light routine. I have given the

(10:32):
us that we have every second day breaks and they
get putting a scope to do so, and that does
work well. I guess with coaching, doing your kid's rugby
on a Saturday morning at ten o'clock depends where we are.
It doesn't leave a lot of time for shifting breaks
in the morning, so it's got to be away at princible.
But yeah, Saturday is probably the biggest pinch point and

(10:57):
few boats will be getting shifted with headlights and then yeah,
what's in this in between? But as not having the
commitment playing myself, this year's probably freed up a weave
at a time.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Have you burnt your boots?

Speaker 6 (11:08):
I wouldn't say. Then. We're still minute to squeeze a
couple of games in for the seas, but I've managed
to stay out of the top side. They're doing pretty
well without me there, so that's good good watching for
a change.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
You're also involved with the border beef in their New
Zealand as a Southern South Island director. You had the
out the Gate conference a couple.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Simon Cruelty the key speaker there, and the messaging he
sent out regarding the red meat sector was one of positivity.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
Yeah, it was great. I think he'd been on a
bit of what he said has been surfaced around again,
but yeah, he had a good audience up there and
I think there's over five hundred farmers and a few
hundred industry professionals around as well, And what a fantastic
message around the confidence and the shape n beef sectors

(11:56):
for the next few years has gone Sart saying up
five to seven years we're burning new normal. So it's
hopefully a bit of a springing step for the for
the industry and how do we checkialize on that going forward.
So obviously there's been some there's needs to be some

(12:16):
fundamental shifts and how we operate because people need to
make money at the end of the day. You can
enjoy what you're doing, but you need to be making
money doing it as well. So, yeah, he was one
of the many speakers that were up there that had
springing this step. But just the whole vibe of the
few days was a good space for the industry to

(12:36):
be in. Really.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, Matte you said, there was a really good turnout
to the conference. Do the positivity and the mood of
the room change after hearing of these announcements.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
I don't don't think it changed. This further solidified their
confidence in the industry at the moment. I went to
the Sheep Breeders Forum the first day and yeah, there's
a room of really engaged people with confidence and what
they're doing as well, and that probably just flowed through
the next few days. But Simon's message was great, probably

(13:09):
giving people the confidence can invest and what they're doing
going forward. Chick fomers are usually pretty conservative, so the
proof will be in the pudding when we go to
come to start selling them next year. Lot. These contract
prices of twelve dollars a path that are out at
the moment are great, but as we know down this

(13:30):
end of the woods, it's what the schedules, and December
through the March is what puts some money in their
bank account. So well let's just hope that it flows.
So when he's right again.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Matt McCray of Marcarader, always good to check on the master.
Enjoy the weekend.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
Appreciate it you too, Anny, Matt.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
McCrae of Marcarader. He'll never burn as rugby boots did
I rabbits.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
They can't help themselves fair enough though when of them
sound checking along pretty nicely, truth to be knowing.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Andrew Cochran's up next from Northern South from.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Vets, the Muster's Animal Health segment with in his Vets
adding value through practical advice and service, no gimmicks, no potions,
total vet care.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Andrew Cochrane of in his Fits based in Riversdale, catches
up once again.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Good afternoon, Cocky, good afternoon, Andy, You pretty good Michael Jackson.
You were saying briefly before you win and seen the
movie the other night, how was it?

Speaker 7 (14:33):
That was quite good? Actually, Yeah, for all his faults,
he certainly makes good music and he's very talented, So
now I quite enjoy it in his vets.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Is that busy time of year?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I suppose for the team a lot of teak ceiling
happening at the moment dry off.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yeah, you've basically caught me between jobs. We've flat out
this sort of ten day window, I guess, so drying
cows off this morning, peak ceiling. We've got a whole
lot more to dry off again next week. It's interesting.
It's not really work at any fits that we've chased
at all, but it keeps coming to us and we
can't say no. So yeah, certainly under the pump. We've

(15:09):
got a good team on board, all hands of the deck.
So we're getting through it. Another few days next week
and we'll be we'll have broken it's back, So we're
getting there.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
It's a good thing for people coming to you, I suppose.

Speaker 7 (15:21):
Yeah. I guess people are just looking for that as
a job that is very mundane but has to be
done well, and it's easy to make mistakes and get tired,
but in saying that we're not really doing anything specially
that we've just got good systems in place and stuff
that are trained. So yeah, doing it well is important,

(15:41):
and I believe that it's what we're doing and that's
the service we're offering.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
So if you don't do dry off correctly teach ceiling
as such, what's the implications?

Speaker 7 (15:50):
So messitis ultimately is probably the biggest risk. And that
doesn't justn't just come down to what we're doing on
the day either. There's a whole lot of management that
has to be done and well in order to reduce
that risk as well. But certainly on the day plays
a part. But the ultimately mess titus and it could
bugger that cow to be here too, if it's bad
enough to going as far as killing her, but also

(16:13):
maybe just buggering her other and making her worthless for
the season going forward. So it is important to get right.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
How often would that occur, would you say on a
pro farm or does it so when.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
Even things are done as well as they can. Yes,
a small percentage of cows are going to develop develop
mass titus for a number of reasons. But it'd be
less than well, well less than one percent. Some some
farms will find they get none at all. Others will
find that they do get the odd cow.

Speaker 8 (16:40):
Every year.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Speaking of cattle, it's a winter grazing season transition, something
we spoke about a couple of weeks ago, but pretty
much a lot of people are in the sack of
it at the moment.

Speaker 7 (16:51):
Ges there'll be a lot of cows still being transitioned
or about to be transitioned, and we see cows every
year that have problems regardless of how careful you are.
So last week we're talking to a farmer who was
lifting beat onto the dairy platform to transition cows. They're
only getting a small amount, but there were gutsy cows
in that mob that loved fodder. Beat knew it, and

(17:14):
we're eating more than their share and we're going down
with acidosis. So it's one of those things you've got
to be very careful with, and sometimes regardless of how
careful we are, problems will arise. So it's just a
case of watching and monitoring very closely, having the right
stuff there to act when you need to, and to
be able to pull some triggers if you need to
get those cows back off or get them fire into them.

(17:35):
So just again advice around making sure you do that
transition well. Keep a close eye on cows, especially mature
dairy cows that have had beaten the past. They tend
to be the highest risk.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
How much high is the risk on beat compareded to
say kale. The swedes.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Much higher than kale. We can still see acidosis on swedes,
but again the risk is much lower. Beat tends to
be the main culprit. Kale is pretty much bomb proof.
But in saying that, there's always value in transitioning regardless
because it is a change and diet and the microbes
in the room and have to adapt. But we don't

(18:13):
have that large carbohydrate load and kale, So kale you
get away with it pretty easily. Swee being a bowl crop,
you can still get acidosis, but we don't see it commonly,
but we do see it from time to time.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Minerals for kettle heading into winter mode, Yeah, so.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
There's particularly in dry stock. So often the dairy cows
mineral levels are pretty good and are probably fine to
get them through winter, or they may even still be
on a dositron so are going to be covered but
dry stock on runoffs beef kettle. This is plenty year
that we are looking at in particular selenium and copper,
so need to consider both of those, and in most

(18:51):
cases selenium will be needed. We are very short in
selenium and south and and if you're not supplementing, your
kettle will be dificient.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Copper.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
There's a few variables there, but generally there's benefit. And
given copper, we see copper sort of reach its peak
around now, and between now and the middle of spring
it's going to decline. So you need to have those
copper levels high enough now so that as that the
client happens, they don't bottom out. So that can either
be an injection, which certainly tends to be the easiest,
although I appreciate the injection has its problems as well

(19:25):
in terms of ease of application. Or a capsule, so
you can give a bowlus down the throat and that
will tend to give you a much longer period of
protection against copper defficiency. But those boluses are still prone
to being interfered us through things such as melidenum and
other minerals that can interfere with the uptake, so that

(19:45):
has to be considered as well.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
The scanning as well, not far away.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Yeah, we don't do a huge amount of it, but
we are doing a little bit and that is just
around the corner. So an interesting change from cattle scanning.
I think I did my last herd yesterday, but yeah,
into deer scanning, which is a different kettle of fish.
Keeps you on your toes, but yeah, if people are
wanting to scan the himes, that needs to be done soon,

(20:13):
particularly if you're wanting any lakes pulled out or any
aging done. Your window is quite small, so that has
to be done, and yeah, there's some valuable information that
comes out of that. We don't tend to get a
huge number of drives, but there can be value in
identifying those lakes and either getting rid of them or
treating men differently.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
You're just deliver out on the window for deer scanning
as such, what time frame do you have.

Speaker 7 (20:34):
Well, again it just depends on what information you want
to know. So if we leave it to late, the
ability to age or pull out lates disappears. And then
if you're rectal scanning, which is what we do, is
the vets with the probe as again as they get
further along and pregnancy that feeders can drop away make
you diagnosis quite difficult, quite difficult to differentiator a heavily

(20:59):
pregnant them all with the fetus disappeared versus an empty animal.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
So we've sort of got to do it.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
You've sort of got a window really now in that
sort of late May early June period is sort of
the main time that ifcially, if you want to identify
late rectal probe.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
I was going to quote self park them a best
I don't. I'm sorry, I just had to go there. Look,
early sheep scanning. I can't believe I'm saying this, but
talking to someone the other day might have been parted
peters there earliest couple of weeks time the scanning's occurring.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Yeah, thanks up on you, doesn't it. So we'll be
saying to get some information, some feedback on how well
we've managed our use over the summer period. So that's
always an interesting time. Yeah, and I guess that sets
it up for next season, so hopefully we see some
good results coming through. I think in general US were
reasonably well fed. I know people had a wee bit
of trouble finishing lambs at different times through quality, but

(21:48):
quantity wasn't really an issue, and so in general I
think us were in decent neck going to the ram
and hopefully scanning results.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Will show that absolutely and good to see if your
our drives that money is holding up really well.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Andrew the team within his fits. If people want to
get in touch, what do they do?

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Write a letter? Not many of us at the clinic
at the moment to do any phone calls, but look,
the girls will leave him take a message and we'll
do a beast to get back to you at the
end of the day when we're when we're back at
the clinic, and in ten days time we should all
be sitting around having a cup of tea, so it
will be plenty of us to talk to. So give
us a call and clinic on and riversal on three

(22:25):
two o two five six three six or in tire
now three two four nine seven zero three nine, good.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oldeer Andrew bist people send you a telegram for another
ten days we'll catch up again.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
Good luck, Thanks to any kids.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Andrew Cochran of Inn his fans see Michael Jackson. He
passed away twenty fifth of June two thousand and nine.
It was one of those moments you remember exactly where
you were when Michael Jackson passed. Phil Duncan's up next
from were the Watch you are listening to the Muster,
Welcome back to the Muster, trying to catch up with
Phil Duncan. If we're the Watch, two heavyweights of the

(23:21):
music world. To bring in the heavyweight of the New
Zealand meteorological scene, Phil duck Can.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
Get a oh what an intro, Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Else thing's going going well.

Speaker 8 (23:32):
Thank you, Just in the usual awesome gloom up here
in Auckland with the cloud and the light winds. But
it's been a dry month, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
It's been a crazy mate. Let's be perfectly honest.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
We get one day where it's minus two of the frost,
the next morning it's three degrees.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Generally at this time of.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Year you're getting your frosts in the morning, your bluebird
afternoons in the javo.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
But there seems to be anything but at the moment, Phil.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
We're getting a lot of what I call sideways, and
so it comes to us from Australia rather than it
coming from Antarctica or coming from Fiji, and so we
when we get sideways weather. Our temperatures don't change much
and so we still get you know, varying days with
different temperatures and cloud and all that stuff, but we
don't get those massive temperature swings. And you know, we've

(24:19):
had some cold days and we've had some mild days,
but overall it has been very settled and we have
not had many severe weather warnings issued at all by
MATT Service over the past month. So it's been a
pretty quiet month. But I always say this, we're a
small nation. It only takes one, you know, one or
two big high pressure systems to slowly track through and

(24:40):
that gives us three or four weeks of settle weather.
And I think we might get a bit of a
change coming over this weekend and going into next week
with perhaps more low pressure now finally coming in and
again coming out from Australia, not from the south or
from the north, but coming in sideways from the west.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well, I've had weather events over the past couple of months,
but as far as snow, certainly not down here in
the south anyway.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Do you think that's just the season we're having.

Speaker 8 (25:06):
I think it is a little bit because we're in
neutral just so there's a lot of conversation about our
Neino and that is certainly building up in the tropics.
But yeah, as far south as Southland, your nearest climate driver,
that's sort of what we generally call things like our
Nino and Laminia, and south of New Zealand, there's something
called SAM, the Southern Annular mode, and what that basically

(25:28):
is is a measurement of where is the low pressure
and where are the windy westerlies. And so that's been
neutral pretty much for the last several weeks, which is
why we have not had a huge amount of strong
gale force damaging westerlies that been south of us. There
might be some changes to that coming through in the
next month as it moves more northwards, and that's what
they call a negative face, and so that's when southern

(25:51):
Australia and the South Island of New Zealand tend to
get more lows coming through, more westerlies and certainly a
fair bit of west coast rain. So when we talk
about al Nino and that that area is called Enzo
e nso that that Enzo area is up in the tropics.
The SAM area is just south of U So SAM
is actually the one that we should really focus on

(26:13):
much more often for Southland rather than always having these
headlines about our ninos. But yeah, they're all neutral at
the moment. So that's why we had not seen anything
sort of out of the out of the ordinary in
the sense of severe weather. And if anything's been out
of the ordinary, it's been how kind of came and
settled it's been, even with those days where we have
had a few gam pours of rain and we've had

(26:34):
a few windy, colder changes, but they've been pretty timid
compared to previous autumns and previous Mays.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
The last day of Mays occurring on Sunday, the last
day of autumn officially, and I think the high seventeen degrees.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
Yeah, I might even be higher than that. And that
that is because the big, big high pressure system that
is smack bang over Central New Zealand today will be
east of the Channel Islands by then, and because it's
such a large high pressure system, and because there's another
large low pressure system coming out of Australia at the
same time, they both work together to pull down a

(27:08):
subtropical northerly so that normally originates from around vanahwah To
in Fiji, and it's coming direct into Southland, and so
that's why Sunday you're high could be eighteen degrees and
if the sun comes out, it could get to tweety.
It is expected to be quite cloudy on Sunday, but
sometimes that can just be if there's no low cloud
associated with that, then you'll get some you may get

(27:30):
some sunny spells coming through and the temperature might even
go above eighteen. So it will be a warm day
on Sunday, mostly across the whole country, not just for you.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Okay. The first week of winter, what are we saying.

Speaker 8 (27:41):
Well, it kicks off with a bit of a temperature drop.
Maximum on Monday's around fifteen or sixteen degrees. There'll be
a few showers coming through on Monday, and then as
we go through next week, it progressively gets colder as
low pressure moves in and it starts to dredge up
a bit of a colder airflow. So you basically go
fifteen on Day as a maximum, thirteen on Tuesday, twelve

(28:03):
on Wednesday, eleven Thursday, ken on Friday, and then believe
it or not, it goes nine next Saturday and eight
next Sunday, so every day loses a degree basically as
we go through all of next week. So how's that
for a gentle easing you in to winter rather than
it all happening on Monday.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
It's like a countdown every day. When you're doing the
countdown back from ten, just go by the gallander.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
It's crazy. And the overnight loads are a little bit
similar to ten degrees on Sunday night nine degrees on Monday,
drops to five though on Tuesday, and then it serve
around that six to five degree mark for the rest
of next week and then drops again to four next weekend.
So that means frost is not going to be much
of a feature coming through. So the next set of

(28:45):
chance of frost may not be for another week or
so after we get through this weekend.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Are we going to pay for this and say six
weeks time?

Speaker 6 (28:53):
You know?

Speaker 8 (28:54):
Sometimes we do sometimes, you know, we always say when
you've got a big air pressure system over, usually a
high pressure one, it kind of holds everything back. It's
like a big strong person pushing back all all the people,
and then when it walks away, suddenly you've got all
this winter rushes back in and reminds us that it's
been forming all around the edges of the high pressure zone,

(29:16):
so you can sometimes get a bit of a knock
to the system once the weather changes. At the moment,
in the short term, there's nothing showing up that's too
scary or big. But this weekend there will be some
very heavy rain around, especially on the West coast, could
be up to three hundred millimeters in some locations, and
also around Tasman and Nelson. Not normally an area at

(29:36):
a long weekend it's full of rain, but they could
be getting overturns of millimeters in the Tasman area, so
there could be some road closures, some slips, and flooding
this weekend. There also could be some strong winds around
that might ground a few flights. The fog should be
lifting today. There might be a little bit of fog
tonight still before those northerly winds kicking, so there may

(29:57):
be a bit of fog around tomorrow, but many many
places are going to see the foggy patches breaking up
this weekend. It might return a little bit at the
start of next week, but I think overall we're not
seeing as much fog around because the weather's going to
be a bit changeable as we go through the weekend
into next week.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Something about random to wrap up this afternoon, Phil, Have
you ever considered being a stormchaser?

Speaker 8 (30:18):
Do you know there was a time where I used
to want to be one. Yeah, especially with not so
much tornadoes but more hurricanes. I like the idea of
watching CNN and seeing these guys down and places like Florida,
or Texas and or Louisiana and they got the little
hard hat on and they're in some massive, very strong

(30:40):
hotel and they get to film these incredible storms. But
I've kind of gone off that idea as I've got older.
I've sort of realized maybe that's not the best thing
in the world to do. But yeah, there is a
part of me that loves that. I would quite like
to be out there. But if you're doing that, you
can't forecast. And I actually find there's more enjoyment tracking
it in real time and actually talking about the forecast

(31:01):
movement of a storm rather than actually being in the
middle of it. And I've been in a couple of
very big cyclones and they are very scary. They get
to a point where it goes from being exciting to
being actually this is terrifying. So yeah, I wouldn't certainly
wan't want to do a storm chase in my own home,
that's sure.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
It's a very mature approach from you towards storm chasing
these days, I know.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
And also the CNN got in trouble a few years
ago because they sent all these reporters out during this
major hurricane which turned out to be a Physit didn't
actually hit the coastline, and I think it was in
South Carolina or something on the east coast, and there
was a lot of flat because they're all sitting there
out in this in this you know, on the edge
of a beach with stormy seed coming in, and they're

(31:42):
telling people don't come outside, and you're going, but you're outside.
Why do you get a special card that says I'm
allowed to be out here, but you can't be. And
I think there is some there is some truth to that.
So I think I've noticed over the last decade they
don't seem to send as many reporters out into these
storms because it does seem a bit of a mixed message.
And also they all that you always see that one

(32:04):
that's standing there going this is the worst thing I've
ever been in and then some guy.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yeah, someone just jog's past. That's what I was going
to allude to, Like, don't come out. There's the worst
storm in history and some dudes just strolling past eating
a bag of chips.

Speaker 8 (32:17):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
For a lot better work stories, Phil duncan always appreciate
your time.

Speaker 8 (32:24):
A good long weekend.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Phil Duggan of weather Watch every Friday here on the
Muster Gun. Follow him on his social channels. Up next,
Michelle What in the Country Crossover? Michelle what joins us
for this afternoon's Country Crossover? Of course, he is the
executive producer for the Country out of Dunedin. Michelle, Good afternoon,

(32:50):
Straight off the bat, here's a step for you.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
The black Cats, currently playing a four day Test match
for the first time against Ireland. Kate Williams and Tom
Latham have become the first players and craketing Test match
history to plan twelve different countries.

Speaker 9 (33:03):
There, ga, Wow, that's a great fact. Twelve countries too.
They must be COREW. Gold By now surely.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, Corey Club whatever they call it's some other name
for it these days. Couldn't tell you why even get
to go.

Speaker 9 (33:13):
Pleas and you and I don't don't get to go
up to those places unless we're invited.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
No, absolutely not. Hey, straight off the bed as well.
The budget wrap up, How do we find it? It
was pretty much as we expected?

Speaker 9 (33:25):
Yeah, I think there was. It was pretty much as
people expected. It was pretty conservative, probably wasn't it really
across the board. I know there's some sectors that are
probably not happy with what happened in it. It'll be
interesting going forward to see what Labour's responses to this,
because obviously they've put no policies out so and they did,
I believe from what I remember Hopkins said that they

(33:47):
would possibly put out some policies after the budget was released.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I spoke to Penny Simnons on the show yesterday. I
urged her to look at the rating systems in Southland
and getting money there, And yesterday there was a bit
of an allocation for certain part to the region between
Tiana and Milford Sound and that's great, but the arguments
said there's other parts of the road they need it too.
But yeah, we don't need to go on about it
too much of State Higway one needs a lot of
work done to it around the country.

Speaker 9 (34:11):
Oh, State High one. I mean it's used a lot, right,
But at the same time, I think, after being in
the UK, our roads are not that bad here, to
be honest, I've seen a lot worse.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Well, are you thinking like a little village row where
two trectors are trying to pass each other on half
a lane?

Speaker 8 (34:28):
No?

Speaker 9 (34:28):
No, So a lot of the roads are very potholed
and not that great over there in a lot of places.
I mean, obviously the exception of your main ones like
your M one and things like that, where you've got
several lanes. But I found in France that when I
was driving around there that the highways were a lot
better so and maintained and things like that. So I mean,
I think it just depends on population size and what

(34:49):
you've got and how much traffic's using. Obviously makes a
huge difference. State High one is used a lot by
trucks because it's our main line pretty much everywhere, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
You're driving in France, yes, many years ago. Really, Yeahkland's
got to be a breeze for you.

Speaker 9 (35:04):
Oh well, I don't know about that. Auckland scares me.
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Right, here's a big question for the day, as well,
would you rather take on one hundred horse sized ducks
or one duck sized horse?

Speaker 4 (35:14):
This is crazy thinking by the Labor Party. How this
even got out.

Speaker 9 (35:18):
Though, I'm interested to find out if it'll ever be
found out. How the scott released to the media. It's
very interesting. Obviously they were doing some sort of communications
type training thing with this, where the question posed is
designed to get them to think about the answer while

(35:38):
being distracted by a weird question, if that makes any sense. Yeah,
But obviously they just kind of made fun of it
as it came out with the song and everything else
that's been played out this week from that meeting. Today's
newspaper is tomorrow's fish and ship rapping. So it will
go away eventually. I guess they will live it down.
But you have to wonder what goes on in those meetings.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
But who in parliaments go to ask some some question
like this when they're talking about fiscal policy and the lakes,
and all of a sudden they pipes up Prime Minister,
would you rather take on one hundred ducks or on
one horse?

Speaker 9 (36:09):
It does sound like it was a little bit oversought.
I'd say it was some communications media person that come
up with the exercise. It sounds like something exercise wise
that came out of some university lecture or something. But
you're right like that kind of question is never hopefully
going to be posed to anybody because it's a pretty
bizarre one. What would you choose?

Speaker 4 (36:28):
I'll take on the one ducks, the one horse sized duck.

Speaker 9 (36:31):
The one horse sized duck. Yeah, I think that's a
logical choice.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Well, it's duck showing season, you know, it at its
open season on them as such in the right environment,
and chances are able to fly away. And besides, you
get rid of a duck, a getting rid of e.
Coli emitters.

Speaker 9 (36:45):
And one hundred was it one hundred duck sized horses
was the other one?

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, that would just be weird. That would wed me out.

Speaker 9 (36:52):
Yeah, that would be like a fever dream type stuff, right, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Hey, look, tuss the countries underway down here in the
South going through the weekend.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Do you follow this at all? There's been a heat
going on and Gore, it's been a really good vibe lately.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
Mind you.

Speaker 9 (37:06):
Every year I look at the event, Sandy and I'm jealous.
I would love to come down and learn how to
make cinnamon oysters, do cheese role making, go to the
actual final of the song contest. Because there are some
absolute big names down there. It's a massive weekend for
Gore teen days. Absolutely, it's huge. There's so many people
down there, are some great comedians and all sorts, which

(37:27):
is really neat. I mean in the old days it
was gold guitar and that was big enough, right.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
That's how these events were get in in the local
community to put the town on show and the people
will come.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
Absolutely, And I think country music and New Zealand is
on its way up slightly as well, with for lots
of different reasons. So it's it's interesting to see it
rise in popularity.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Just finally, very quickly as the premiership Premiership, the Southern
Steel top of the league.

Speaker 9 (37:53):
Yeah, this is exciting. The game last weekend was so exciting. Andy,
did you manage to catch it?

Speaker 8 (37:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:57):
I caught the last five minutes on Telly, so you
can't make you With the results, they're doing really well
in lifting the profile dinover the South and Sharks who
are playing the Nuggets this weekend.

Speaker 9 (38:06):
Yeah. Basketball, netball both on the rise. Netball was a
sellout here last weekend at the four o'clock game on
a Saturday was huge and for Cargo will be absolutely
crazy as normal down there in the stadium. It's it's
very very loud for a steal game. If you've never
been Andy, it's probably one of the loudest places I've
ever been for any type of game. So exciting times
for the Steel and of course exciting times I have

(38:28):
to say sorry and you have to support the Nuggets
because I'm basing a tigo.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Whatever rocks your boat, will let you go with that.
Shall always appreciate your time. Have a good afternoon and
a good weekend. You do, Michelle, what and the Country Crossover?

Speaker 4 (38:42):
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talk some wise.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
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Speaker 4 (39:11):
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Speaker 1 (39:12):
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Speaker 4 (39:25):
Good afternoon, how things Gooday? Andy?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Hell are your listeners?

Speaker 4 (39:29):
How's everything up in the land of the wires?

Speaker 6 (39:31):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Well, mate, couldn't really go too much better to be
their second on the table twenty points already, But couldn't
really be a bigger game this weekend one v two
on the table Penrith Panthers at home Sunday night. It's
it's going to be a doozy if they win this game.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
What does it mean, Oh, we're.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Equal top of the table with the Panthers. It's still
it's still early days. Obviously in the season, almost halfway.
It'll give the team, the club, the fans a lot
of hope. This is a This is a key game
because if we end up going down by say thirty
points or whatever, maybe we're not premiership contenders.

Speaker 7 (40:11):
Like we think we are.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
But if were, I even think if it's a close
six eight point last we show some fight, we're right
in the game. I think it's a big game just
to really show our premiership credentials in this one. And yeah,
who knows. It's always a tough one coming off State
of Origin week. The Panthers they have four guys out,
the Clary's, the Yo, the Titles, the macleans. Wise they

(40:35):
have two Barrett and Kate well they both all six
of them might play. They've been named on the sort
of extended reserves bench. But yeah, we shall see. It
should be an absolute rip at eight fifteen Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Andy sure Metcalf that whole situation there.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Has it been messy as to the way that you've
read it or do you think the Warriors have handled
it pretty well?

Speaker 3 (40:55):
I think it's a club they've They've handled it as
well as they could. You've got a disgruntled player. I
wonder if Metcalf if he could sort of go back
in the past a month and maybe maybe do it
a bit different, knowing that uh Tanne Boyd was going
to get hurt and he was going to have the
keys again playing seven his first weekend back, playing New

(41:19):
South Wales Cup this weekend, which will be big for him.
I still expect him to have a huge influence on
the On the rest of the season. I'd say he'll
probably be starting in a couple of weeks and saying
that to Mato, Martin's been He's been serviceable. He played
well against the Broncos. He did what he had to
do against the Dragons last weekend in a bit of
a messy game. So I don't know, We've got a

(41:41):
bit of talent there. We've still got that Luke Hanson
young seven and and even where I know the media
love to throw out Jet Cleary's name, but he's still
probably another season to two seasons away from from being
given a got a proper go at first grade. But yeah,
I think all in all, the club's done what they
can that they let him sort of get away from
the team, not training those couple of weeks when he

(42:03):
was having those contract discussions with the Warriors and then
other NRL clubs. But all in all, I'll give them
a solid sort of B plus for how they dealt
with that rog.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
The two of Vasa Chek has gone for the year
and no longer being Warriors colors, although he's still on
the squad for the season. Obviously, what's that loss going
to be like?

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, it's more just sad for what he's given to
the club, given to new Zealand Rugby League. We kind
of all wanted and expected just one final amount smart
game to really give Rts his sort of flowers, because
he deserves it. He's the club's first l M winner.
He's been one of the sort of better players in

(42:41):
the NRAL for close to a decade fifteen years. Yeah,
it's just disappointed that he didn't get that proper send
off it. I'm sure the club will still do that.
He'll he'll wander around on crutches or whatever in the
last couple of weeks when we have the final home game,
but in terms of a loss on the field, he's
still RTS. But he's not the Roger that we all
fell in love with him. What twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen

(43:03):
when he came back to the club and we do
have the sort of the luck of having Adam pompeis
coming for him. We've still got Charles Looklled Corook Stark
and playing the centers as well. Rock O'berr's is about
to get back into first grade as well, at least
play some New South Wales Cup. We've got a young
young center Ali Laataar wingers wives that's where he was

(43:24):
playing most of his footy Dlamite teneys and Lesnie has
been playing amazing. He's scored what twelve tries and seven
games Carperreira the speeds that he's been awesome since he's
been given his debut for the club, scoring I think
some six tries and six games as well. So in
terms of a loss on the field, I don't think
it's going to be as big as we sort of expect,

(43:45):
as we do have a bit of death now, but
just in terms of in the locker room, staff, pre
games thing, having a leader on the field like that
will just be massive dying forward as well.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Even in the reserves, I've been really impressed by Sam
Healy and the zett that he has when he's coming
on Wade Egan.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Oh absolutely. And that's the sort of it's a fascinating
thing because we look at who's playing starting hooker for
the penuinth Fantas. It's Freddie Lussack who was sort of
playing that position last year for us off the bench
and he wasn't happy with the minutes he was getting
at the club, so he went back to Australia and
Sam Healley is great and we know sadly how Wade
Egan does love getting injured or he loved the classic

(44:23):
head not well, he doesn't love it, but he loves
getting them. So to have Sam Heley sort of maybe
just giving Wade Egan those minutes off the bench when
he wasn't eighty minute hooker. Now he's sort of on
the has to play fifty five sixty year game and
he's a real young talent and it's great to have
him so coming off the bench. And there's a lot
of players like that that have just been the young
cats coming through. The Warriors at the moment an awesome year.

(44:47):
You can see what with the results at the New
South Wales Cup last year, winning the New South Wales Cup,
then winning the state title as well against the Queensland
Cup champions. So it's a plenty good time to be
a Warriors, san Andy.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
State of origin. A lot of commentators are calling the
send off of klen Pung a soft. Would you agree
with that?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Well, if we're talking rugby union, that that's a red
card and that's six weeks and a suspension. But what
we sort of know and why a lot of people
love rugby league is is is a bit like that
you just you get the old children instead of dealing
with it in the game and ruining a game. It's
it's you just go, you chuck them on report or

(45:27):
even ten in the bin. I believe that was either
the seventh or the ninth time that there's been a
send off in a State of Origin game, so it's
pretty bloody rare. So yeah, I didn't agree with it.
It was obviously shoulder of the head. There's no to
ways about it. But the classic word that rugby referees
love to use, mitigating factors. There's a lot of those.

(45:48):
I foult and yeah, I think Queensland fans could feel
a bit a bit unlucky after that because that really
changed the game and we all know in New South
Wales came back to steel game one twenty.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
The interesting you say that, do you think Rugby Union's
got it wrong regarding these rulings. I need to put
it on report and deal with it later and keep
the contest as fifteen on fifteen.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Well they've got at least what they've done with the
red card system. As you get your twenty in the bin,
then you do get that player, not the player that's
been red carded. But the bench player can come on
for that. I think that that that works well with
rugby union. I don't think that that works with league. Yeah,
I sort of. We all grew up in the in
the days where you pretty much almost had to kill

(46:32):
somebody to get sent off in rugby league, right, you
really need to take some of these head off. You
just really give them a good spare tackle or whatever
it was. Even classic head eyes were even just ten
minutes in the bin. So I don't know. I know,
And there's a huge thing on safety in sport, and
I'm all for keeping everybody safe on the field and
their future life off the rugby field. But yeah, I

(46:54):
think rugby league needs to do what rugby league do
well and let the sort of players play make.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
News dog zib Sport producer always appreciate your time on
the muster getting closer to the NPC at the Stags.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Oh, I think only sixty seven more sleeps to my
beautiful Bay of Pony kick off the season against Why
can't I so go the bay and go the wires
this week?

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(47:44):
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