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June 15, 2026 46 mins

Olivia Weatherburn talks to Hayden Smith, Steve Henderson, Grant McMaster, Adam Coley, Chris Dillon, and Sam Riley. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Muster with Andie Muir thanks to Peter's Genetics. Every
drop means quite a lot when it's from Peter's Genetics.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Good afternoon and welcome to the Muster. I'm Hakanui the
show Praudley brought to you by Peter's Genetics. My name
is Olivia Weatherburn and I am currently filling in for
Andy while he has a well deserved break. And it's
an ever Tuesday I've gone with today. The background music
that you're listening to is MoMA Maya of course, however

(00:37):
it is from these amazing band called forty Fingers.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I was made aware of this earlier this week and
thought why not give them a go? Now forty Fingers,
you guessed it. Four guitarists. If you haven't looked them up,
go and have a look. They can just abart play
anything and all that music is just being played by
four guys on the guitar on the show today, we've

(01:02):
got a full line up for you. We're going to
start out by heading to Nightcaps, which is the Nightcaps
Young Farmer's Club. We're going to catch up with dairy
farmer Hayden Smith to see what's been happening in the club.
Then going to head down the road to Adrull where
we're going to catch up with dairy farmer Steve Henderson
and have a chat to him what's been happening on farm,

(01:23):
but also the process that he's had to take with
changing contract milkers. And also we're going to talk a
bit of men's health. It's Men's Health Week this week
from the fifteenth to the twenty first, and we all
know how good that men are usually looking after themselves,
so just a few little reminders there. Then we're going
international with our current International Muster Home correspondent, which is

(01:47):
Grant Disaster McMaster and he's an Oregon So what's happening
in Oregon, what is it known for, and just seeing
what he's been getting up to over there before he
heads home next week. Then we're going to head down
to Cargill and we're catching up with risk Reduction Advisor
Adam Coley from New Zealand Fire Service, going to find

(02:09):
out what that Roland towers and some general fire safety
in the rural settings. And to finish up today, we
will be catching up with South Confederated Farmer's President Chris
Dillan and talking a little bit on this international visitors
tax and it's been directed back into the coffers of
the government and why it needs to be directed where

(02:30):
it was promised. We'll also have PGG rights and stock
sale report from the lawn Valsale Sam Riley within the hour,
and a bit more ab as we go. So let's
see what the five day forecast is.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm tear from and
saft text. The proof is in the progeny tear from
dot co dot inz.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Wednesday are high of seven, low of two with morning showers,
breezy westerly winds. Day a high of ten, a low
of two, cloudy, breezy, west to north west winds. Into
Friday high of fifteen, a low of eleven, cloudy, breezy,
northerly winds, and into Saturday twelve degrees with an overnight low.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Of five, rain, breezy, west to north west winds, and
into Sunday nine degrees, high of nine, low of four,
morning showers and breezy westerly winds.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Before we get into it this afternoon. The Waikaka hey
in Baileage competition is happening next Friday, the twenty sixth
of June, so they will be taking meadow hay, one
large bale or eight small boughs, baileage, straw or lucern
for the day and there will be a community prize
giving held in the afternoon to honor the winners and
all the trees will be optioned off. If you want

(03:48):
to get involved in the waikaka hey and baileage competition
next Friday market on your calendar. We're going to head
to night Cats now and catch up with Hayden Smith
from the Nightcats.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Young Farmers, g Writs and stock Sale Reports on the muster.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Very typical there and why did he go on again
for I'm a twenty five to a give third in
our five would have been above another quarter dollars on a.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Let that time of week Again. We're heading to the
PGG Rights and Stock Sale Report coming to from Norvel today.
Sam Raley has things down there.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Gooday here you get on. We were chilly down there today,
but last one day out of it, so it's great
to see getting through winter and the weather hasn't been
too bad. It's great to see prices today probably similar
to where the weather has been going. Actually is pretty
hot those prime lambs there were two seventy to three
hundred and three dollars, the mediums on two thirty to

(04:37):
two sixty and the lightering primes at two hundred two
hundred and thirty dollars Into the yeus those got heavy
years were two sixty to three hundred dollars, the mediums
two thirty to two fifty and the lighter ing years
at one hundred and eighty to two twenty, with the
very light years at one twenty to one fifty. A
handful of rams, and today the best of those were
one hundred and twenty tow one hundred and sixty dollars,

(04:59):
with the medium to eighty two two hundred dollars moving
into the store sheet still reasonably outing in store lambs
coming in today the best of those two ten two
thirty meetings one eighty to two hundred and the lighter
in one sixty to one seventy, and that wraps up
the sheep side. Into the kettle. We moved just a

(05:19):
very small yarding of prime kettle with prices improving and
in line with the sheetl moving up stairs at five
hundred and thirty to six hundred, five hundred and sixty kilo. Sorry,
they were four seventy eight to four eighty two. He
was at four hundred and seventy kilos four fifty four
and a couple of pens of good heavy freezing cows
and five fifty to five eighty kilos They have a

(05:42):
three dollars twenty six A big movement on those into
the store cattle. We moved just a very small yarding
of store kettle in today. Some R two special part
cross heippers at four hundred and fourteen kilos nineteen hundred
dollars and some mealing angus cross heap visit two hundred
and eighty seven kilos they were fourteen sixty So yeah,
just a lot of stocks starting to wind down moving

(06:05):
through into the winter season.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
But if it wraps up.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Long Cheers Sam the Muster with Andy Muir.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Thanks to Peter's genetics, every drop means quite a lot
when it's from Peter's genetics mind.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Welcome back to the Muster on how can we I
am now heading over to Nightcaps to the Nightcaps Young
Farmer's Club, and we are joined this afternoon by Hayden Smith.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Good afternoon, Hayden, good afternoon, How are you today?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Not too bad and nice Chris start to the morning.
Has things on the farm?

Speaker 6 (06:48):
Yeah, it was bloody child this morning. I had to
put on an extra prayer long John, so go out.
But everything's been looking good this morning and it's nice
to good for us coming and what's.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Been happening on farm in the last few days.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
So we're dairy farming out. Heach open or o's got
drawed off late May, so yeah, they're just out at grading.
So I've just been tacking through a few winter maintenance
jobs of fencing and change rubb. We're in the shed
and just trying to keep busy day.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh, they keep busy, keep warm. Have you still got
some trees to clean up from those storms and know
that's what a lot of people are going to be
doing over the winter.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
Ah.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
No, we're very fortunate. We don't have a lot of
trees on farm to begin with, so we were Yeah,
we didn't get that much damage, so which was excellent.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I might both find time for a little break in
there then.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Oh yeah, well I've got a buddy. I've got a
tar hunting trip this end of this week, so that's exciting.
So we'll cruise up and go do that and then
you got a few other jobs to tick off around
the farm and enjoy.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh cool, where do you go tar hunting or is
it a top secret?

Speaker 6 (07:46):
Oh? I'm going with a mason going out of the
Hairy Harry Pub and up there and getting the helicopter
riding and something else. So that should be excellent.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh sounds good. That sounds like the biggest challenge will
be getting out of the Harry Harry Pub.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
Hopefully.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Nightcaps young Farmers And this actually takes me a trip
down memory lane. I actually went to school and take
a team in Nightcaps and then what did a number
of my years of my young farmers in Southland in
Nightcaps when we used to meet at the y Rio
Tavern back in the day and yeh some great memories
from piece shoots which I think you still do, through

(08:24):
to hitch hiking and everything in between. So how's everything
going out there with the club?

Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yeah, that's going good now. I was in winter and
you know we've got a good member base and yeah
we're just taking off a few events. And we went
up to Tiana for their ball last weekend and we've
got our own ball this weekend at the Winter Memorial Center.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
It seems to be ball season. A few clubs putting
them on. Great social occasion, great to see everyone getting
around to everybody's You've got a bit of a theme
for your one.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Yep, yep, No, our theme is the gumblet Ball.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Gumber Ball, So turn up in your red bands.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
Yeah, we just thought, oh we may well not make
here run going and get special costumes. So posh up
your bespirit of gummy and there rock along for a
good old foggy.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Nice And it's actually getting together and seeing each other
and having a few brown lemonade. That's all about, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yep, yep, nar those brown lemonade and important. But yeah,
it'd be good to see run out there and you
have a good time and listen to a bit of
live music and have a yeah, have a good time.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Really, And I see across the region clubs have been
having their agms. And have you guys got your new
exect in place for the next year?

Speaker 8 (09:36):
Yep, yep, we hold how's in May, I believe, yep,
And yeah, I went from a treasure roll to the
sick role our chair women Island Stadium and we had.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
Some fresh faces coming as well. As the old heads depart. Yeah,
club's looking good for the next year.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Oh, great work. It sounds like it's under good control.
And I think we're going to catch out with Island
next week, which will be great. Tom Slee obviously represent
teeing Otago Southland for the FMG Young Farmers a Year
which is only really two weeks away, and he got
a crew heading up there as well to New Plymouth.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yep, yep, we've got half a dozen of our members
cruising up. Yeah, we're fine. Out of Clean's down to
start of the month. Then we're going to get up
and support him as well as Harry McCallum and Megan
White as they're on the fencing conpetition, So you know
we'll cruise out there and support Otago South It should
be great.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Col So you got the T shirts or some merch
or sort of to make sure you all look the
same or give him a big Sathland contingency. What are
you taking up?

Speaker 6 (10:35):
Yeah, I think that's a bit of a bit of
a secret. I think tree all over that look like
it's going to be fun.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh sounds good. And the mascot get his name the
beer has he been found? So he can make the
trip as well.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
Oh, I'm not part of that organizing. I think I might. Yeah,
I might have to look into that, make sure he's
gone and make sure everyone's sorted with that.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, you always used to be a thing in the
mascot and then it used to be the mess who
could steal? Who's mass Scott?

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Oh no, I can barely look after myself, so I
probably shouldn't be lest in charge of them.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
They you think you might end up in the hands
of some other region, then.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Who knows where we can get up to.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Oh, it'll be good to be able to see how
everything goes up there, and great to hear that you've
got some fencing finalists as well, So Harry and Meghan
representing Otago South and the club for that as well.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yep, No, we'll just get and support them because they're
good mates. So yeah, teach one.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Nothing like a bit of club rivalry. And at the
end of the day when you go out there, you're
all one, aren't you.

Speaker 9 (11:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
I haven't seen it from the White South now And so.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
If anybody wants to is listening and thinks, actually I
want to be part of that night Caps club, just
let us know when your meetings are and how they
get involved.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Yeah, well, our meetings all done for this month, but
probably the best way to keep in contact with us
is look on Instagram or Facebook for the next upcoming meeting.
Nine times out of ten it's first Wednesday of the
month at the Top Pub in winter, so if you
just keep your eyes peeled on that, you should be
able to link up with us, or if not, just
message the page. We should be able to get in
contact with you, which would be great to see. New

(12:12):
phrase of the law.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah sounds good. Anybody's welcome when it comes to young
farmers and I'm sure you'll get involved in the in
the yarns. If you don't have a good yearn when
you go there, you have one when you leave.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
No, it's a good, great group of people and we
all get around it. That's good.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Come No, Well, thank you very much, Hayden. All the
best up there and new Plumouth. Don't get up to
too many crazy stuff and make sure you represent a
tager South and Wale, which I'm sure you guys will,
and all the best for your ball this weekend.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
I thank you very much. You have a great day.

Speaker 10 (12:43):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Thanks hated cheers the aden smith there from the nutcaps
young farmers. Next, we're heading to Adarua to catch up
with a dairy farmer, Steve Henderson. See what's been happening
on farm down here.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
The Muster with Andy Nure Thanks to Peter's genetics. Every
trip means quite a bit when it's from Peter's genetics.

Speaker 9 (13:14):
I work online, I work all.

Speaker 10 (13:16):
Day the day.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Welcome back to the Muster. You are listening to Olivia
with a bur and it's filling in for Andy. Well,
he has a well deserved break. And we're heading down
to our Arrua now to catch up with Steve Anderson,
dairy farmer down there, and he works very hard every
day to pay the bills on our EBBA Tuesday Money, Money, money, Steve,

(13:42):
How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 6 (13:44):
Good? Thanks Olivia.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I was just listen to that song and reminiscing with
the last two days of marked around with about teen
sheep and now I see what sheep cockies get up
to you.

Speaker 7 (13:53):
They make money.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
They work on the sheep all day and fill in
the days and I think we only drench them and
shure them.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
But it's taken two days.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
Are you know?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Wonder the sheet cockees don't get much done.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
They probably look over the fence and think similar things
about you guys.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, no, I don't need to be them. We only
had a thin shape. And yeah, it makes kettle and
dairy farming reasonably easy.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
So no, it's a very valid song.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
But I'm sure you've got some wool in that wardrobe
of viewers for winter.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, we've put a padlock on the robertor actually of
the wall sheets, so we'll just wait till we've got
a full fedge fall in case someone comes and blogged it.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Good work winter mode. Now things slowed down on farm
getting those jobs done.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, there's always are gonna stop sorting going on, making
sure they're fitting into the craft and moving bails and
bits and pieces. So you want to get that done.
The whole days are just short enough.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
We're getting closer. Shortest day on Sundays. Are you happy
we ended up at the end of the season, yep, yep,
we are.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Obviously it was just a good every season. We were
you know, pretty weakicking in the spring, colder temperatures and
we might have got probably too tiny scrasty and here
the normal. So yeah, there's a whole we needed pretty well,
good on car frights and good ability to kill some
cows and get back on track, and ended with some
pretty good covers too. So no all onwards and upwards

(15:12):
for this coming season, and everything's looking pretty good.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
So are you calling out those cows? Are you got
some good replacements coming through that they'll join the herd
this year?

Speaker 10 (15:20):
Yeah? We do yet.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, so we've we're rare about twenty five percent replacements,
so we're time to get a few deaths and but
some pieces you're down to you I need these twenty
one two percent coming through. So we've also tested for
yone's which we did kick out some. As you look
at them, they're good cows, but they're a bit of
a hindrance going forward. So we've called heavily on yonis
as well, so I to give us the ability they'll

(15:44):
probably kill or cow our fight to the.

Speaker 7 (15:47):
Main herd, just with lower PW and undergiable cares.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
So it's taken eighteen or twelve years to get to
that stage, but it's good to be able to come
out on those figures rather than have tos also.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Been in the process of changing contract workers. Has that
whole process gone.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
So yep, Kem and Nicole they finished up with us.
I've done three years with us and they've gone fifty
to fifty sheea milking, so you know, a huge credit
to them to do that trees and we've just taken
on DL and Lucy. So that process started with Kim
and the Cole where we knew their plan that they
were going to be hopefully three years and she milking,

(16:26):
so that was in the deck of the mind, you know,
November December last year they mentioned that they were equively
looking for shemerking jobs, but that made up to them
get in the back of their mind that we wanted
to ectively look for contract milkers. So that whole process
was pretty easy. A lot of it's just actually on
the Facebook page and it's a reputation of Kem and

(16:47):
the Cole on that property too, so a lot of
people knew the property and they worked in their favor.
So yep, Lucy and out come on board and first
to during roll round which was actually public holiday, so
seeking the journe everything was open and we had a
good catch up with them and this is yeah time
there for this time of the year obviously that with

(17:08):
the machine looking contract lockings changing over, a lot of
them are green coming into the community. So sit down,
just make sure they know you know what supplies you use,
where the local net clinic is, the expectations of the
suppliers and the neat clinics of what they deliver. Or
we have to go and get your product your machine testing.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
Who does that.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Rubble we're changing, what's the criteria around that, who you
get it through and do they purchase it in order
to our own appurchase it or order it? Sorry, And
also a bit of that compliance stuff too, So obviously yes,
you've got to do your water takes and change your
person in charge for your.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
Earthlod management.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Nate side of things, and make surely your pick has changed.
And not only bringing these new ones on but also
deleting the other one's offers. They're not getting owners emails
and texts that are relevant to them.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Well to think about there isn't there. It's not just
a matter of moving in moving out.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
No it's not.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
And you still go on and you've got jerry companies
to change. And then also it comes down to their
staff too, because we've had it before where you have
urban staff and they come in and they let us
don't arrive into the mailbox, they're going to post them
at the post shop, so you actually have to let
them know that they're on a reyal delivery now and
get that changed over too. So yeah, there's a lot

(18:31):
of things to go through, and it's probably just keeping.

Speaker 11 (18:34):
Contact for that first month or six weeks to make
sure everybody's on the same page and everybody's understanding what's
expected and there's no hidden thin things happening. And then
come around first of all because you're not ready because
you haven't brought it up.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, So just constant communication and making sure that everybody's
feeling comfortable in the new surroundings.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, not be sure to ask the question, you know,
have you thought about this? That's from farm ownA point of.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
View and so confident points and.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's probably when you go. Like you said, it was
easy process to go and find your contract milker, but
it's just not a matter of throwing you around in
it apart from picking out a name.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
It's oh right, yep, yep, it'sactly that. And where those
contract milkers or shea milkers have come from, have they
run motile multiple farms. Have they as the first time
contract milking? Did they come out of a manager or
so it's all around their skill set too and where
you need to sure as you're focus on the business
management or is it actually kills and grass and they're

(19:32):
really good at business management. So yeah, it's understanding where
the where they're skill sets and where you can put
in to try and help them grow so you know,
hopefully in three years they can be like Kem and
Cole and shot away go fifty fifty shee milking.

Speaker 7 (19:44):
In farm ownership, it.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Means health Week this week from the fifteenth and twenty first,
and the stat's probably a wee bit alarming for some,
but one and four men won't live to retire, and
we know how men can be stubborn in individuals. But
also you get busy on farming and you just forget
that you need to actually do give yourself aware and
a fitness What do you guys do to ensure that

(20:08):
you're going to be running at one hundred percent come
the spring time as well?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Now there's a valid point, so what you could just
work hard and retire earlier, so you do retire it
or if you want to do one a litle bit longer.
I never really used to think going to the gym
in there. It was a bit of a bloody, you know,
pretty boys sort of thing to do. But I try
and get there twice a week. Now your farming, I

(20:36):
think has changed from a physical thing, well probably a
lot more physical when you were younger is to now
you're sort of on the business side of things, and
you're certainly getting out there, but probably not as much
as you were. So getting away and doing that twice
a week and also probably getting if you've got an
other half or a wife to book.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
That stuff and for you you don't have to be
a gym and there. You think it could be as
simple as I've got a week bit of off time
now in the winter a wee bit slower, book yourself
into the doctors and get yourself awarenfulness.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yep, definitely, And if you can't do it, just mention it,
and I guarantee your your partner or your wife they
probably want you round to help with the workload when
you do retire, sorry, they will book you in and
you and they'll probably even drop you off at the doctor.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Nice because that is a good excuse to go for
do some shopping at the same time. Oh, thank you
very much, Steve. Sounds like you've got enough on your
plate for the rest of the winter, so thanks for
your time and we'll catch up soon. Thanks, love it, cheers.
That's Steve Henderson. They're down at a Rua dairy farming.

(21:43):
Now head to the Master's international correspondent at the moment,
Grant Disaster McMaster, who is over an Oregon in the States.
Let's see what he has been finding on his trip.

Speaker 9 (21:54):
I work online, I work.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Today, sad.

Speaker 9 (22:02):
And still them never seems to be.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Welcome back to the muster and we are going international now,
Grand Disaster McMaster is an Oregon in the States, due
to head home back to farm. But how are you, Grand?

Speaker 12 (22:28):
I'm good, Olivia and Graf and Grafana.

Speaker 11 (22:30):
Anybody.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
What's the weather doing over yet with you?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well?

Speaker 12 (22:33):
Since I spoke to Andy last week, it's been in
the mid twenties day and day out, and yeah, really pleasant.
So it might be a bit of a shock when
I get back to the snowy hills of Queen's Sound.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Nothing that a few marino or wall layers won't fix.

Speaker 12 (22:49):
Well, I was taking the Woolen segment with me. I
never travel over seas without it, but I can tell
you I haven't had.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
It on this last week.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
So you're an Oregon there, and I was reading that
Oregon is the lead in the niche products of the world,
like hazel nuts and grass seed.

Speaker 12 (23:04):
It's a pretty big place, Oregon, and it's the Pacific Northwest,
and you know, for a bit of history, that's where
the when the pioneers all when it came out west,
it was you know, they went through the big places,
big states and got to Oregon. So yeah, it's a
massive place. Then where we're staying at the moments in
the middle of it, and then the area of Bend

(23:27):
is it's covered in pine trees, just thousands of acres
of pine trees, straight roads going through them, small mountain lakes,
extinct volcanoes for volcanic mountains, lovely rivers, and lots of
craft beer and Bend. So it's on the high desert.
They get about three hundred miles of rainy year and

(23:48):
it's got two skifields within half an hour off the township,
which about one hundred thousand people of in Ben and
it's sort of a lot of the it's a lot
of the high tech industries there how, or tech industries,
I should say, but it's quite a big retirement A
lot of retired people live here and in a very
good climate. So yeah, a nice place to be so.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Abavan, which I'm sure you have checking out the hops
and tasting some of those lagers over there. What have
you been up to?

Speaker 12 (24:19):
I just traveling around really and going to various places
the family were staying with. They've got they've got a
little cabin at a place called Elk Lake and if
I go to Elk Lake, I think of the song
Indian Lake, but it's one of those. They've got a
cabin up there that's on it's on leasehold land that's
been I think they are pretty big in the National
parks over here, which was the Forest Service and they

(24:43):
really go that to pund along in the depression. So
that's probably a bit before your time and living there
and mine, but they got in and you know, for
the workforce to put huts around and make tracks and
that was sort of the start of the conservation time
with the conservation era. And yeah, there's so there's we've

(25:04):
been walking a few tracks and basically just going having
a look one of the one of the big highlights.
A couple of nights ago and we spoke off here
about a rodeo legend and Pat McCarthy, but I went
to the Three Sisters Rodeo which is in Ben and
it goes for about four nights. Went the second night
and been a few radios in the time and at

(25:25):
you know, we said the mighty wa Kaka radio can
tell you. The Ben one was slightly more confessional what
we run, but there was still carebles. There was big
hats on and chewing tobacco and falling off and yeah,
but it was a really good show. So yeah, that
was That's been one of the highlights of being and
being going to see that that rodeo and all the
good good stock they had all contract stop, great horses

(25:47):
and great riders and yeah, a really good, really good
time out there.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Oh, I just live in the dream. It sounds like
from where you were last week when you spoke to
Andy to now you've gone into that very more similar
to New Zealand rural sort of of smaller townships into
wider rural areas.

Speaker 12 (26:02):
Is that correct, Well, that's correct here though Ben could
be a bit of an exception probably to the rest
of Oregon because they said it's just there's trees all around.
But you know, just sort of when you get out
just's it's a bit different. You know, you're just sort
of touched on it. There the primary industries in Oregon agricultural, fishing,

(26:24):
and forestry. And there's a big range of mountains, a
cascade mountains that sort of cut sort of go down
the middle of the state and on one side it's
a bit more fertile and it's got you know there
they've got the high tech irrigation and grow a lot
of spud or potatoes, onions, and wheat and fruit trees. Then,

(26:47):
but the highest earner, and I found this quite interesting
tim to a guy the other day, is in grass
seed and that that's mainly for turf production and forage
seeds where and also Christmas trees. So those areas have
they've got the you know, the irrigation and they're really
cruct things along.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I understand. Also if you go on to the other
side of the mountain, the time zone also changes, Yeah,
it does.

Speaker 12 (27:13):
So we were the same time as San Francisco back
in California, and now the further you know those mountains.
It's changes again. So it's just the vastness of you're
in one. You know, we live in New Zealand and
we you know, we changed when we go to osit
and you think that's a big deal, but everybody state
you go to here, it's just at a different time.

(27:35):
So that takes a bit of getting these two.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh it's always five o'clock somewhere. You just have to
go and try one more of those hops.

Speaker 12 (27:43):
And it's only there from five o'clock now too, so
we've got to hurry up.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Oh we've been there. Well are you you went to
the rodeo the other night? Was there any like? I
know that they're being hit over there with this US screwworm.
Are you hearing anything and your travels around there?

Speaker 12 (27:57):
No, I didn't hear anything. I had I heard about
and had to look it up to find what it was.
And I think that's that's mainly in Texas at the moment,
So no, nothing about it here, but around this area
not a lot of livestock. There's there's you see quite
a few horses, a bit of a looser or a
felfare as they call it. That's growing, but all under

(28:19):
irrigation because this is the high desert and as I
said before, you know, three hundred mills of rain and
it's pretty body dry.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
It sounds like that they are increasingly battling the same
challenges we have as well when it comes to water
and climate pressures in there and being in a desert
area that will be even.

Speaker 12 (28:38):
More Yeah, it is one thing about the water and Bend,
it's it's really nice water to drink. And it's a
bit different than those cities we've been into.

Speaker 11 (28:49):
But they've got.

Speaker 12 (28:50):
Beautiful big rivers, you know, clear running rivers and you know,
you know it's and the d Shoots River is one
that goes through Bend and it's in its early days,
it was it was a logging a logging town. Great
great history there when you go into these old mills
and you can look them and you can the photos

(29:11):
of all the logs coming down the rivers and what
have you. You Now, now there's no there's no logging
in Bend. Now, there's no logging in Oregon. There's a
lot of houses being built and that timber comes from Canada.
When you buy something in the shops, it's it's just
you know, might be thirty dollars, and you think, well,
that's the equivalent of their thirty dollars. But if you

(29:32):
put our exchange right and it's doubles, you'll be.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Coming back to the same exchange rate soon because you're
heading home, so you start to start making that trip there.

Speaker 12 (29:40):
We started headed way tomorrow. We fly from from Redmond,
which is just half an hour along the road, back
down to San Francisco, which is about a two hour
plane trip, and camp there the night, and we fly
out of San Francisco the next day, so in the evening,
so it'll be a night flight back home, so that
might help a little bit. We might be able to

(30:01):
get a bit of sleep and hit the ground running
on on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
It sounds good, Disaster. Look forward to being able to
catch up with you back on farm next week and
see what you've been missing out on. All the best
with your trip home.

Speaker 12 (30:17):
No, thanks for that, a nice talking to you, and
I'm board of catching up next week now.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
It sounds great. Safe travels. That's Grant Disaster. McMaster out
of Oregon is the Muster's international correspondent at the moment.
It's brought to you by the team out there at
Abby will up. Next we are going to take a
different direction and we're going to go and catch up
with the Headland Fire Service on some general fire safety
in the rural settings.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
The muster with Andy Nure. Thanks to Peter's genetics, every
drop means quite a lot when it's from Peter's genetics.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Induced, the peace and nice induced the piece. Welcome back
to the Master for a Tuesday afternoon and is what

(31:17):
do we do when you need an SOS? We call
the New Zealand Fire Service And I'm joined this afternoon
by Risk Reduction Advisor for the New Zealand Fire Service
based in Vacagle, Adam Coley Dam thanks for being on
the show this afternoon. How are you?

Speaker 7 (31:32):
Oh, I'm all right, Thank you, Olivia.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
That's good, Adam, Risk Reduction Advisor. What does that involve?

Speaker 8 (31:39):
Right?

Speaker 7 (31:39):
So, I'm a member of a team of four people
down here in in Vicago and basically we look after
the evacuation compliance and evacuation schemes for businesses and other
various buildings. We issue fire permits during times when permits
are needed. We also look after the firefighting water supplies

(32:05):
for rural properties or places outside of the reticulated water supply.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
A very important job when it comes to our fire
service and our rural fire brigades being able to have
the resources they need.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
By the sounds of it, part of the building consent
in certain areas that are required to have access or
have firefighting water within a certain distance from the building
being protected.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I understand recently there has been a few more house
fires than we would like. We obviously don't want any
house fires out there, but in the rural setting as well,
so I thought it would just be good to have
a chat to you in regards to some of the
general fire safety and a rural setting as we head
into winter. When you get busy, some things can get
forgotten about, and we've got the fires burning at home

(32:52):
as such to be able to keep people warm, as
well as other things like heaters and the like. So
what are sort of the key things people should be
thinking about before leaving the house at the beginning or
the end of the day.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
A lot of the similar hazards and rural settings as
we do in town, So things like unattended cooking is
still New Zealand's number one cause of fire, which is
closely followed by the charging of lysium batteries like that's
quite a concern for us, the amount of batteries that

(33:27):
are out there now, and people probably aren't quite as
aware as they should be of the actual dangers behind them.
And so but one thing we're trying to promote is
to not just leave them sitting on charge and you know,
any damage or anything like that, notice to it, just
to make sure that if you think it was suspected
being damaged, you get it checked out, because they can

(33:49):
literally just start at any point and middle of the night,
middle of the day, doesn't really matter, doesn't even have
to be plugged in or cause equipment even beyond it.
These batteries are quite dangerous and they present quite a hazard.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
And so that's going to be for a lot of
people with workshops out there. They've gone and charged the
drill back out, gone off and done some jobs, come
back and usually yeah, they're coming back and taking it
off when they need it again. Your action couraging put
it on and then maybe when you're coming back to
feed the dogs do something later, take it off.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
Charge, put it on, and you know you're going away,
just perhaps go and switch it off at the wall
before we leave or We even recommend people look into
the likes of timers, so if you know how long
it usually takes to charge, if you said it on
a timers that when you walk away, it turns off
when it's finished, and it's just ways of trying to
avoid it just sitting in perpetual cycles of charging.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Now it makes complete sense and it comes to vehicles
and that obviously the tractors are getting out there and
being used at this time of year, but just that
general awareness around vehicles, probably more than motorbike in that
that isn't getting used as much, maybe in the winter
unlucky and have to be running around on the bike
and those cold wintery days. Just doing those checks and
just keeping vigilant.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
There's always the risk of rodent nests in the spring,
the bird nests and the tractors around the exhausts and stuff,
and it's just always good practice after any period of time,
but just to have a lot check for build ups
of dry materials or anything in places that it could
potentially start combustion.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
What are you guys seeing out there or have you
got any messages that you'd like to share in regards
to that general Just on farm every day piece.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
After October's wind events, there was a lot of trees
and debris everywhere, and just so, yeah, so there's a
lot of wind debris and fallen trees and all that
sort of stuff. And when people are out there cleaning
things up and making piles, just to have a bit
of consideration about how close that pile of stuff to

(36:00):
be burned. As to things you don't want to burn,
we recommend a minimum of thirty meters, but sort of
the further away the better, And just to make sure
that you're checking the wind before you light, Like the
wind could be fine for the day that you're burning it,
but then in two or three days time, it might
do a change and blow back and up under a hedge.

(36:21):
And you know, everyone knows how dry it can get
underneath the hedge. It doesn't take much of an enber
to move under there with a decent airflow through it,
and it can get away. And we saw quite a
lot of that. And the follow up from the from
the wind, there was a lot of people burning down
hedges that hadn't fallen over. So it's always a risk

(36:44):
that you've just got to try and try and keep
on top of it.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, And as winter comes around and some of those
jobs like that are now going to get tied it up.
Some people won't have got to those trees yet, So
it's a really good point as they start pulling those together.
Might not going to be getting them a lit now,
but thinking about when you go to life them in
the summer months especially, Yeah, how what are those risks
that could be in just taking their extra few minutes
to think up a plan could save you a lot

(37:09):
of have it later on.

Speaker 7 (37:10):
The other thing just to keep in mind is, although
you may not need a permit for the burn that
you're part taking in, but it's always a good idea
just to give fire Com a phone call and just
give them a heads up that you're going to be
doing a burn. That way, if they're getting reports of
a fire in the area, they can see that there's

(37:32):
potentially a control burn going on here. So I mean,
you're not going to get.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
In trouble for it.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
Like, as long as you're doing everything you're supposed to do,
there shouldn't be any issues. It's just more a matter
of helping us not turn out a full brigade to
what's ultimately a controlled burn. Sure, you've got your socks
and gun boots one meter away from the heater so
that they're not catching on fire overnight. It's all the

(37:57):
usual follow safety messages that I'm sure everyone's been hearing
us promote forever.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
There as those parkers and that where their gear starts
to come indoors, to get dried out at night, just
having a think about where you're putting that and there's
nothing worse than yeah, also melting holes and you wet
with a gear for the next day because it doesn't
work so well either. You very much dam for your
time and I'm sure some of those tips will be
some time and reminders for everybody out there.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
It's not a problem at all. Thank you very much
for leading us spread a message.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
That is Adam Coley Risk and Reduction Advisor for the
Zealand five service space down and in Vocago. Next up
hitting out to Northern Southland. Crystillan Southland Federated bunts the.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Muster with Andy Muir. Thanks to Peter's Genetics, every drop
means quite a lot when it's from Peter's Genetics.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Welcome back to the Master. We're heading to Northern south
and now to catch up with Southern Federated Farmers President
Chris Dylan, who has been waiting by the phone as
he shifts some stock in the lovely Belfer area this afternoon.
How are you, Chris.

Speaker 10 (39:19):
Yeah, we're a pretty good peggy.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
That's good. One has been pretty kind to start with,
so we'll be seeing some good things out there so far.

Speaker 10 (39:27):
Yeah, we've had a very good late autumn and start
to the winter and there has been a lot of
rain comes through in this last lot, so yeah, everything
should done nicely.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
And for you being a cropping farmer and mainly with crops,
you've got a few stock on for winter, but won't
be too strenuous.

Speaker 10 (39:44):
And the beast animals obviously, and then we take on
a few extra keos as well, say, yeah, you to
look after.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Enough to get out and check out the weather each
morning and get some fresh air.

Speaker 10 (39:56):
Yeah, every day.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
And anything happening on in regards to the arable side
at this time of year or is it pretty quiet.

Speaker 10 (40:05):
As a little bit of grains starting to shift around
that goes into chicken feed or cheap nut. The cawf
meal doesn't really start until later in the into July,
so we'll start moving stuff in.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Oh, it'll give you a bit of time to get away.
Is next week, I understand you're heating up to the
primary Industry's conference yep.

Speaker 10 (40:28):
And conferences are knock London and then we got the
Ferida Farmer's AGM following that.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
And what does that mean for sort of southern feeds
and general Is there sort of some opportunities out there
to change things or what does that whole conference sort
of mean? Back down here on the.

Speaker 10 (40:42):
Ground, there's a lot of networking opportunities with with a
lot of different people and especially a lot of MP's
things like that. And then it's the three day event.
It's great to catch up whether the rest of the
Funeralta Farmers executives from all over the.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Camp and a few new ones across the country now too.
So be for some the first time getting up to that.

Speaker 10 (41:06):
Yeah, there'll be some first time. Some have been there
in the executive or vice capacity before, so you do
get to know people quite well.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
So I was reading in the news last night around
the International Visitors Levy funds and that Federated Farmers is
criticizing the government for diverting those funds into the Crown
Coffers as such, and there's a call for that revenue
to be dedicated back to its original purpose of combating
widened pines, feral pests, and tourism infrastructure. Obviously have a

(41:37):
big international contingent that come into our region every year.
What's your views around this?

Speaker 10 (41:44):
Yeah, it needs to be for its original purpose. They
come here to look at their one country, which includes
their landscapes. Obviously, they come here to look at a
heap of wild and pins. So yeah, that's of a
small levee is paid by every tourist that comes in.
We can control the world point in this province a
lot easier.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
And it's also for their infrastructure also, those buses and
that that are taking them in and all those visitors
they're using our toilets and our roads and all those
other pieces as well that our rate payers are already
funding but aren't able to be able to fund to
that aspect and those capacities. It's really important that the
funds go towards that too, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (42:22):
I definitely is, especially for small world communities and upgrading
toilets and there. That seems to be the rate payers
that are the ones paying for it, not the tourists
that are the ones using it, so it does need
to be allocated in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And what are the real topical things are you guys
working on with Southern Feeds at the moment.

Speaker 10 (42:42):
Just going forward with a lot of discussion around the
local body reform. It's in the early stages. They've got
the headstart approach going on there, but we really need
the conversation is going to be around the whole community
on what the community wants. And it's clear it's quo
is not working. It's a long time since there's been changed,

(43:04):
but we need the change to be right and then
during this time so everyone needs needs to get involved
in the process.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Consultation is really important, isn't it. It's just like anything,
if you don't have your say, you can't complain later.
So there'll be feeds. I'm sure we'll be pushing and
also communicating when those opportunities be available for the general public.

Speaker 10 (43:24):
Yeah, definitely, And it'll be some hard of next month
that that where will be hosting some hosting some stuff
that have some independent voice on it and not not
hear from any council staff on what they want. It's
here from the from the people and what's best for
the entire problems going forward, because.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Either the day, it's the people that it effects and
the decisions that come out of they're affecting every day
people on the ground.

Speaker 10 (43:52):
Yes, and you have to remember that some of the
driver for this change is the fact that their rates
continually rise and it's got to unsustain all levels. Even
the ten cent rise each year is just it's just
compounding and we're getting no more benefits. So we need
a streamline how things are done and within the councils,
and this is our one opportunity to do it.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, their return on investment calculator isn't really working anymore.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Is it.

Speaker 10 (44:17):
No, it's definitely not. So yeah, there's going to be
some fairly big change, but it's a challenge we can
take on and we can get to a good place.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I think everybody in a mass and everybody together actually
is going to be powerful more than that one voice.

Speaker 10 (44:31):
I definitely, yeah, And that we're living a very big
and diverse province, so you've got to get structured right
so the community stays involved on the on the on
the way through. So yeah, there's there's ways of doing
that and we'll be highlighting them into the next month and.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
If anyone's out there listening if they want to have
a check to any of your feed members or your
details are on the Federated Farmer's website.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (44:53):
The phone numbers and all the exec members are on there,
so it's a problem to either ring someone or someone
an email or else even come along to the monthly meetings.
Was an open forum there.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Cool and ad I was monthly meetings on a regular
like a certain day of the month or a date.

Speaker 10 (45:13):
Yeah, they usually are usually at a second Monday of
the month, but then again school holidays is this month,
so we will be probably on ZIM in July, giving
that we've just been at the PINS, so it will
be all this to a back to all.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Oh, if you want to get involved, get in touch
and they'll put you in the right direction. Thank you
very much, Chris. I'll let you get back to the
stock and all the best up there with the PINS conference.
I hope it goes well and look forward to seeing
what comes out of that connotation as we move into
the next few months.

Speaker 10 (45:47):
Yep, thank you well.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
It's Chris Dillan, the Southland Federated Farmers President based out
in Northern Southlands.

Speaker 12 (45:56):
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