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June 14, 2026 41 mins

Olivia Weatherburn talks to Jon Pemberton, Penny Simmonds, Snr Sgt Gary Iddenton, Paul Corby, and Harriet Bremner. 

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the Muster on Hakonui, the
show brought to you by Peter's Genetics. Surprise, surprise, I
am not Andy Mura. My name is Olivia Wetherburn and
it is my honor to be hosting the Muster for
the next ten days. Well, Andy takes a well deserved
break and what was probably nicer temperatures, Well, the temperatures

(00:33):
aren't too bad considering the third week of June, but
maybe not the wet and rain that we're seeing outside
the Hockanue studio this morning where he is hitting. Without
further ado, let's have a look at what the five
do I forecast has in store.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's five day forecasts with twin farm tear from and subtext.
The proof is in the progeny tear from dot co
dot inze.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
So.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Tuesday high of nine, a low of five, mostly cloudy,
fairly breezy, north to northwest winds. Wednesday a high of seven,
a lot of two morning showers, breezy westerly winds.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Thursday a high of ten and a low of two.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Afternoon showers, breezy west to northwest winds. And Friday a
high of thirteen, low of ten, partly cloudy, breezy north
to northwest winds, so not bad weather as we head
into June, but we do want winter and winter one
thing we can't control is that weather.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
But one thing I can control for you this afternoon is.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
The lineup we've got for you as we.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Go about the next hour.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
So first up, we're going to head on just down
the road for the Sergeant Dan farm around up where
we're going to catch up with John Pemberton. John has
been doing a bit development on farm and the cows
now drive off.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Let's see what he has been up to.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Then we're going to catch up with Pennyson and she
is in Wellington today in Peter Southland, and chat everything
for politics, drink driving, speed, suspicious behavior, all still real
key things on the radar of our police in the South.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
So we're going to catch up with Senior.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Sergeant Gary Enderton to have a yarn about that before
heading into the al Wacker Valley where we're going to
talk pest control and some trials that they're doing down
there with deer and trying to tear them from those
crops that cost does his farmers a lot to put in.
And then we're going to finish the show talking.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
To Harriet Bremner. Harriet and Ed you may have seen
on Country Calendar last night. It was a great show.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
We're gonna have a chat to her around that and
also what's happening on farm and the health and safety
aspect that she is highlighting all the time as well.
So that is our lineup for the day. Say, let's
get into it on what is a Luke Holme's Day
and the song back in the Saddle.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
The Muster with Andy Muir thanks to Peter's Genetics. Every
drip means quite a bit when it's from Peter's Genetics.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Our first guest today to kick us off on the Muster,
we are heading down the road to John Pemberton, who
is having a typical Monday on farm.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
John, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 5 (03:33):
You're going to live yourself there.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
You're not not too bad.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
A bit of a new thing today, but we're managing
not to blow the place up, so all is good
for a Monday.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Oh, you're pretty brave, well done.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
What's happening on farm?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
You'll be in winter mode now, dright off and all that.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yeah, yep, we're just tarling of the who got done
last week. Mom just heading up to Central Dinact.

Speaker 6 (03:55):
She gave a look at the air that I've gone
over the weekend singling into grazing. Any just sort of
in the final stages of this Kiyoshi build, so yeah,
sort of a number of contractors on site putting in windows, Sparkys, plumbers, engineers, builders,
so yeah, sort of at the bit where all the
final touches get done. But it seems to take a

(04:16):
lot of a lot of work for that to come
together because it's all the netty gridge stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Just going back to you drying off and you're wintering there,
your cows off farm. Obviously, how much over the winter
do you go visit them and have to deal with
them or are you're pretty hands off and you've got
a really good grazer there that takes a handle of that.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
No, we've got Yeah, so we try and catch up
in the first weekend going up, and then every fortnight
after that and then start of July we definitely go
through and just anything that looks like it hasn't seen
we're in. We'll either bring it home or separate it.
But we obviously we go through an agent as well,
so they have an agent. I've got an agent.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Myself, so there's sort of four.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
People involved in the in the contract and that's sort
of how it's managed, and it seems to work quite well.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Communication will be the key thing throughout the winter.

Speaker 6 (05:03):
Exactly, communication expectations. As long as you ru understands what
we're trying to achieve, it goes to plan.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, So busy on farm with that shared exciting getting
to that near the end and being able to look
towards a new season.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah. Look, it's going to be a bit of a
game changer for the staff.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
I've got an old twenty eight a side hearing bonus
doped under an Apple field's conversion in ninety one, so
even then with secondhand plants, so we've got stuff that
you could probably was operational back in the seventies, I'd say,
some of the milk pumps and stuff. So really looking
forward to that. So we're actually hosting a field day
with ourselves and Deering Z have teamed up and we're

(05:44):
having a field day this coming Friday at eleven am
at five oh seven Pilier Highway. Just I guess going
through the whole process of how we've converted an organic
sheep farm to dairy in the last two years to
sort of going through that process and just I guess
we'll legislation, how we managed it, how we work with
the local run hunger fish and game dock. Obviously been

(06:07):
by the river. We've got Lind's land as well, So
how do we work through all those parties to pretty
much end somewhere that's tenable for all parties before we
actually submitted into the process of consenting.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
And then obviously.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
We've built a fee pad, solar array with batteries, new
road tree and just sort of showing you know what
you know, sheds and stuff's got a little.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Bit more expense in the last decade, you could say that.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
Also there's some pretty cool stuff that's coming online, So
just trying to showcase. Look, you know, there's certainly opportunity
for land news change, but how do we go about
it slightly differently because you know, after the O seven
she was a bit a bit of a you know,
just get on a baar wind, get with it. But
we sort of do know a bit more about our
impacts on the environment and such like, and so how

(06:55):
do we how do we work with that? And we've
done things like insects such as a large wetland or
what other people's options. So just just kind of you know,
highlight you know, we can do it. We've got it
slightly different, which is probably no different to how it's
always been as science has come along.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well, it's really linking back to and highlighting some of
the great works being done the dairy sector. And when
we look back at the announcement that was made at
field Days last week for eighteen point three million dollars
in the government funding towards a seven year co funded
program called Responsible Daring with Dairy and Z there's quite
some alignment there showcasing that whole loaf footprint, high productivity

(07:30):
on dairy funs with what you're doing there.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah, you know through a nutfield. I was lucky
enough to go a chess thick Day and such like
in the States and see examples of when things have
gone pear shape. We have a banded together and as
a whole community, not just the farmers, but the whole community,
because everyone does have an impact and how they work
through that to.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Improve the environment.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
And I think it's good to see that the discussions
now happening because I do think New Zealand has been
possibly as book because on a weave it lately and
that we can't be blind to the fact that we
don't want to go back to that, you know, do
us At the Deadly Dairy campaign that was run, whether
people at Greeble or not, it was quite damaging and
quite it was quite hard for the royal folk to

(08:12):
sort of deal with it, I suppose, like as a
dairy farmer, was quite confronting. And I think if we
don't want to see that happen again, we've got to
be more transparent and I think lead a bit more
than rather than just sort of going, oh well, if
it's a DM and we'll do that, I think we're
to start looking at right, how do we take it
a step further and you know it actually works through

(08:34):
what are the true costs of our business? And does
it work us getting all tangled up and upset rather
than sort of you know, a word of compromise feels
like we're sort of right now and you're still and
on the day we will be illustrating, you know, the
financial gains of what we can do is still it's
still exciting to be involved in this industry and sometimes

(08:54):
just a slight different change of approach makes it a weave.
It easy to work through.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
And you've gone overseas, you said where it's gone through
this whole build and this whole development piece. Do you
think what you learned from overseas you've brought a lot
of that pieces back to be able to make some
of those decisions as you've gone about it.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yeah, we were sort of in the process for first
time enough we would sort of just started the process
and so I guess what it did was giving me
far more confidence in what I was doing and well example,
like we haven't built a barn, and just me personally
from what I experienced overseas, I've always been on the
fence about them because I think they've certainly got their place,
but the timing and myself going through Europe and seeing

(09:34):
some of the challenges that are having personally, I'm not
motivated to build a freestyle bar on my property. I'm
not saying it's never been an option because we don't
know where the future is going to take us, but
it did give me a bit more confidence around how
we were planning it and what we were doing.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
And as you have now finished up the season, are
comfortable before you finished.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, look, we a probably a little bit down on
one of the farms in production, but look, we'd had
a hear sail there. We did ask a premium price,
so we were pretty committed to making sure the cows
were in you know, presentable condition. All that, and you know,
you've become very focused more on care condition than we
did on milk production to the back half of the season.

(10:14):
But look, you know we're still getting paid very well.
And as far as seasons go, I think this would
have to be the best April May even into June
that I've ever experienced. It's been quite phenomenal, like even
in the wizard It week today, but even the weekend
it was still very warm, and yeah, we'll take a
what zeb but it also does make you nervous. I
just hope we're not falling into the season has been

(10:37):
one or two months later than normal, because it would
be nice to have a good spring for once. But
it has been quite an amazing second half of the season.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
We want winter and winter at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So it sounds like if anyone wants to see what
you've been up to, head along on Friday, was it to.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Have a look.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, eleven o'clock till four thirty, quite a big day.
We've got about eight and nine speakers sort of formatted
why are we doing it and how we're doing it,
So we've sort of got peered up those either consultants
or people that actually be involved in what we've actually
done on the process. So there's not really me speaking,
it's going to be the proficials that are involved. So

(11:13):
hopefully there's some there's some good, some good leads and
connections and and it will be time for people to
connect with those people afterwards as well, being that we
are making to read quite a bit social at the
individ as well.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Oh there you go, folks.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
If you've got nothing to do on Friday or want
to get off farm, there is your chance to go
and do that and have a look at what John's
been up to.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
So thanks John for that.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Check brought to us by a Sergeant Dan Stockford. All
the best for the season coming up and then you
shed thanks. Next up we have Penny Sons in Peter, Southland.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
In the world of politics, the muster with any newer
Thanks to Peter's genetics, every drop means quite a lot
when it's from Peter's genetics.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
So you're back back, Welcome back to the Master and
it is backup plan with Bailey Zinnerman and Luke Holmes,
and it's always good to have a backup plan when
it comes to politics. I'm joined now by Penny Simmons
MP and the Cargo understand you're up in Wellington today, Penny.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I'm good, Thanks, Olivia, Yes, up in Wellington and nice
to hear you's standing in for the boss and of
course you're well steeped in the primary sector, so you'll
be as thrilled as I am to see that primary
sector export forecasts are going to reach a record sixty
four point three billion, that's billion with a B in

(12:51):
twenty twenty six, an absolute record for a primary sector.
Dairy twenty eight point six billion, meat and wall fourteen
point one billion, and horticulture nine point five billion, and
well on the way to meeting that expected forecast of
seventy billion by twenty thirty. I wouldn't be surprised if

(13:14):
we get there before twenty thirty. So you know, nationals
backing the primary sector, and why wouldn't you with figures
like that? The primary exports are absolutely the savior of
our economy at the moment, and so really please that
we've been able to announce investing one hundred and forty

(13:37):
three million across six commercial projects. So it's in partnership
together with industry industries putting in eighty four million. We're
putting in fifty nine million, and it's across dairying, sheep
and beef, horticulture, Kei, we fruit with Zesprey, forestry, aquaculture.
So it's partnerships with number of industry players like Zesprey,

(14:03):
like Rabobanks, Halter Dairy Enz And the goal of it,
the aim of it really is to pump that investment,
that innovation, the new technology in to enable our primary
sector returns to get even stronger and stronger while at
the same time reducing environmental impact. And I know that's

(14:25):
something that you're really interested in as well. So look,
it's just such good news for most of our primary sector.
Still pretty tough on the arable farmers acknowledging that, but
by Gollier primary sectors doing well at the moment.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Ah, those are wonderful figures and it can only but
put a positive mood into everybody. It is just not
just the direct impact of that, but the indirect impact
that that's giving to our communities as well, isn't it
and employment.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yes, look it is, And it's the confidence that it
gives farmers and growers to be able to employ people,
to be able to invest in our new machinery and equipment.
And that's why Southland is stealing so positive at the moment.
It's why the South Island really is stealing so positive,

(15:18):
and we just need that to spread up through the
country because we know that when the primary sector is
doing well, jobs are out there in our rural communities,
our rural small townships and businesses and our townships are
doing well as too. So look, it's a great story.

(15:39):
It's a great outcome for our farmers. And I think
it's wonderful to see farmers with their heads up and
our growers with their heads up and feeling confident and
feeling valued because for six years they weren't valued, and
we need to be in there backing them and saying,
you know, we'll put some money where our mouth as

(16:00):
we value you, we back you, and we're putting some
money into push things even more with these new projects.
So it's all good news for our rural sector.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
And as we get close to an election there, Penny,
there'll be sure a number of things that you guys
are doing. But to ensure that red tape doesn't I
suppose put a negative spin onto some of these pieces.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, yet, look, still trying to strip out that red tape.
We've done a bit of it. We've got more coming up.
The Rimay, a new Act for Resource Managements. They are
coming up for their second readings and committee the whole.
They've been to the Select Committee. So we're pushing on

(16:44):
with that because of course the RIMA has been one
of the biggest roadblocks to development right across the country.
Whether it's housing, whether it's water storage, whether it's farming.
It really has held us back and so we have
to unblock that red tape because we want farmers doing

(17:05):
what they do well out there, farming, not spending all
the time fully informed.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
So a lot more opportunities into the future for farmers
to be able to make the heat where they need
to in that space.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Then oh absolutely, and look it should be really encouraging
our young people as well. We've got Telford now in
a good space, We've got Lincoln looking good massy. It's
now the time for young people to be seeing a
variety of careers in the primary sector. And so the

(17:37):
use of technology, the use of modern farming systems that
it means there's so many different pathways for careers in
their primary septor now for our young people.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, and the opportunities are endless when it comes to
those careers as well, whether it's actually on farm getting
the boots on and getting out there and somewhat good
and bad, whether or actually being some of those support
services are all can'ts to being able to have those
flow on effects into our communities.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
It certainly does. So things are feeling positive and this
government certainly backs our primary sept And why wouldn't you
with the great job that they are all doing for
us for our country.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
In Wellington this week, what's on the cards while you're
up there.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yes, so it's scrutiny week. It's when we have to
front up, the ministers have to front up to select
committees and get grilled by the opposition about why we're
spending on different things that were announced in the budget.
And so I've got to appear tomorrow Tuesday for tertiary education.

(18:43):
Then on Wednesday for social development and on Thursday for science,
Innovation and technology. So a good grilling of an hour,
an hour and a quarter for each of most of those,
so it gives the opposite opposition. They've done their homework
on the budget to really scrutinize us and put pressure

(19:05):
on us and be able to explain why we're spending
where we are.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Pea Simmon's the MP from the Cargo up next, Sergeant
Gary Inderton, please chat in the south.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
So you're back backed up for Guess the Muster with
Andy Muir. Thanks to Peter's Genetics. Every drop means quite
a lot when it's from Peter's Genetics.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Welcome back to the Muster and an appropriate song from
Luke Holme's Fast Cars as we go to our next guest,
which is Senior Sergeant Gary Enderton, who we're going to
have a bit of a chat around speed, drink driving
and suspicious behavior.

Speaker 8 (20:03):
Afternoon, Gary, Olivia and good apping into the good community.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Lots happening out there.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
We're into winter mode now, probably lucky we haven't had
to deal with too much ice and snow yet, but
you've still got plenty on your plate.

Speaker 8 (20:18):
Yeah, the roads have had a few crashes recently. Also,
the roads are changing, the weather's changing. We just are
reminded of people just to sort of drive safely, get
to their destinations and back, sort of watch their speeds
and plan their nights out, sort of think responsible. Who're
still getting the odd drink driver who they're go along
to sports or they're out and about and they're not

(20:40):
planning it, and they're putting their lives at risks. It's
really good that staff are out there catching them, but
it's not good being caught. Also, it's not like a
program Plus and Furious. She lives have been put at risk,
and it's not like the films. We've had one individual
this week doing over one hundred and fifty plus on
the roads, which is just not acceptable.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
No, definitely not acceptable.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
And these days everybody either has courtesy coaches or there's
a willing sober driver at the air. Sober drivers are
usually offered drinks at most places now as well. So
what we've seen in the media with accidents and people
who have lost their lives and families that have been
shedded in recent times, what more can we do to
actually get the message through?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Gary?

Speaker 8 (21:21):
Well, yeah, I mean it's like Eve within the draym
license of privilege. They just need to be family. You
need to be responsible as well for them if they
if they know they're doing it, it's a matter of
giving us a call ring of its urgent one or
crime stockers, and we're more happy to deal with them
and take their vehicles off them, hold them accountable.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Again, it's accountability, isn't it. And if you've got some
mates out there that are not doing the great thing,
having a word to them, sometimes coming.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
From your mates, it can be the wake up call.

Speaker 8 (21:51):
To absolutely, absolutely and a better.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Suspicious behavior still happening around the place.

Speaker 8 (21:57):
Yet we've still got a little element in and around
the Gore and the Royal townships. I think it's okay
to steal. So we're actively asking the community to sort
of report suspicious behavior if it's urgent or at the
time of say one one one and prime stuff as well.
If you want to remain anonymous, we'll still get the
odd vehicle and the odd flail that's been broken into.

(22:20):
So we just want to find out there that we
can only do this with the community's help and support,
and we want to try and hold these offenders accountable and.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's all about not taking medicine to your own hands too,
say that specious behavior, get in touch with you guys
and make a plan rather than trying to be a hero.

Speaker 8 (22:36):
Sure, obviously we just don't know who you're dealing with
a lot of time, how many they are carrying them,
what they're under. So it's definitely you know, don't take
the lawn to your own hands. Just make sure you
report it at time.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
And being vigilant around your own property.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
And they're making sure you've got things secure when you're
out and about.

Speaker 8 (22:54):
Yeah, I think if you've got cameras, that's greatly can
afford to, you know, making sure things are the vehicles,
a lot properties locked. The old days of world will
be all right. I'd like to say it's still around,
but there's still people out there opportunities to timent. Life
is difficult for them and obviously have them.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
And as we head into the winter months, the weather
can be a little bit more gloomy and when the
sun doesn't shine it can do a lot to moods
as well. So just wanting to make sure that people
are also where it's okay not to be okay, and
that once even three is even help line with mental health.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
Yeah, there's one, some and three. So we all go
through tough times. It's about just being honest to yourself,
reaching out to family members, the GP or contacting the
health services direct doesn't always have to involve the police.
So we're just saying to people just you know, if
you are finding it tough, you know there's people out
there the support and.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Help you and the rules sick there, we've got the
rule support out there as well, so there's a lot
of help out there. And again there's reaching out family
and friends. If you haven't talked to someone in a
while and give them a ring today.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
Absolutely, and it's to all say so not to be okay,
that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Well, thank you Gary.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
It sounds like there's a lot keeping you busy out
there and Gore and Southland area and hopefully everybody is
watching their speed and they're driving as they go into
this next weekend.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Thanks living, thanks the community.

Speaker 8 (24:18):
It's a really great place you enjoy yourself.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
And that's Gary there from the Southland Police. We're heading
to awaken Net to catch up with poor corboy.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
The muster with Andy Your thanks to Peter's Genetics. Every
trip means quite a bit when it's from Peter's Genetics.
The muster on the farm with Southland District Council working

(24:54):
together for a Beta Southland.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Well, welcome back to the muster.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
We we have now heated down to a whacker and
he's following him out of sheep, which is very timely.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Poor cow boy. How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 9 (25:10):
Oh well, we're just sort of thinking of wish the
sun would come out. But it's not too beer, is it? Really?

Speaker 4 (25:15):
It could be a lot worse for this time of year,
couldn't it.

Speaker 9 (25:18):
Yeah, No, we didn't really get spring, and we had
a long I don't know if it wasn't someone was it.
But we're here now and it's not really one to Paul.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Just for the listeners out there, tell us a little
bit about your farming operation down there in the wicker Alley.

Speaker 9 (25:33):
We suys, you know, we just okay, we retired but
we're slowing down. But now we've got five hundred eight
years left and we just went a couple of beers
news and have one hundred and fifty odd hippers and
it's just part of a round really, nothing too strenuous.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
It keeps you out of trouble.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I hear. Now.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
The reason I wanted to get you on today is
we know this time of year you do a lot
of effort throughout the year to put crops in in
the winter for sheep and cattle to be out of
graze during the winter, and pasture growth isn't as strong,
And you have actually been trialing some pieced eradication strategies

(26:11):
because where you are on that catland's bush area, deer
like your crop just as much as your sheep and
kettle and can sometimes eat more than they should. So
just want to have a chat about what you've been
doing there.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
Yeah, for the last couple of years, we've been losing
basically a pettical year of what to feed, to do
it things and possums walking bined and it was cost
a lot of money to put it in, and then
the arrive at the gate to put them off, the
sheep and and find that what would have been was
going to be two weeks off so many two days
is just not a good feeling. So here we've tried
a few things and we seem to be on to

(26:46):
a winter.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I cool, So I understand that you are mainly working
with Chow this year.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Is that right?

Speaker 9 (26:54):
I know we've got all three different sorts of crops.
We've got far a bit near the house, and then
Sweet Way are the boundary of the Wisp, which people
will probably know is big forestry block now and then
us three paddocks of tear up another valley. So yeah,
we've got a spread of them around and it's been
quite interesting from the best point of view.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, and with the.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
West they're going into trees a bit more of a
haven for those pests. So what have you been doing
with the crops to be able to tear some of
those little peasts.

Speaker 9 (27:24):
Well, we had a meeting last year with an outfit
and they've got a beer aper we prey on, which
I called pseudos giants, but they were still I think
it works. We're just there, we spray. It's a fine
power that goes on and it's endued with the frequency
of things that beer skid of, like jokingly saying beers

(27:48):
and pumas and tigers and lions, which the idea of
course never seen, but evidently it deters them. And certainly
on the Swedes where we sprayed it properly and did
a very good job. The deer come to the edge
of the peddic and they don't go in. It's quite
amazing really, and it's sort of backed up wife fear
my friends, and there's a bit more pressure sometimes as

(28:08):
they do go in, but they don't hang around and
stay there. They're just not happy.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Interesting, So as you say, like, yeah, it's got those
deterrents in it, I would have thought those saying the
terrance would also be the terrance for our kettle and sheep.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
But they're eating it, okay.

Speaker 9 (28:23):
Seems yeah. There was always the worry that how come
I once says their sea plants together of it. But
the guy that told it to us basically said, well,
you know, you're super as weary as the sort of thing,
though much more much more pleasant as than watching the
barble sheep, which is means you're walking away from me,
just standing here watching me. So yeah, they wouldn't do that,

(28:44):
would they. So it must be just a different setup.
And they even reckon the farm deer don't get so worried.
I don't get worried about it. You can stray a
farm peddic and put the farm deer and they don't
freak sort of thing. So who knows, but you know,
we're only a year into it, so we might find
something else. But at the moment where it's promising.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
And so when are you spraying at poorly? You don't
just before they go on or is it after pre emergence?
When is it being sprayed that you're finding the best results?

Speaker 9 (29:11):
Basically as soon as it's sign on the under the grounds.
Best of all, we're but lucky because we use h
T crops, so we do pre emerged spray straight after
the sign and the stuff that sprayed then and done
a good job has been really good. I mad some
partacter chaw that didn't get sprayed until three or four

(29:31):
weeks after they had emoged, and one of those text
has not been good at all. The other two have
been okay. So it just seems to be they don't
seem to worry about having to do it, but it
seems to work better for us if it does.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
And yeah, mentioned possums in that as well, and losing
crops to that. What are you doing in the possum front?

Speaker 9 (29:48):
We just anybody wants to go sho shoe possums, the
trip possums does, so we probably will have to do more,
but we've got a lot of.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Them up just in the last week.

Speaker 9 (29:57):
Whiles I hope there's enough down to make not too
But every time I think there's deer damage to go
up and you find just a possum trail coming in.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Oh, it's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
It'll be good to be able to just sort of
follow the journey and see what it's like in another
year or so, see if it's something they.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Get used to.

Speaker 9 (30:13):
Yeah, you know, and this year we've maybe made a
little bit easier because Moss Whist Bush. They've taken the
thousands of deery out, so maybe our deer population has
moved off a bit and being too we're not seeing
them the pressure that we had, so and it's been
the good years. After feeding the bush as well, the
deer won't be quite so, you know, want desperate to

(30:33):
come out and eat the crops. So it's working. But yeah,
to watch the space, but I'm glad I did it
this year.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Anyway, we will definitely watch this space what's happening on
farm for the winter and main things.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
At the moment.

Speaker 9 (30:45):
At the moment, we're just getting sit pull into a
lot of cattle to go and crop, but they're not
that sort of and a lot of it. We lost
a lot of trees on fences back in October, like
a lot of other people. But the fences are all that,
they're posted all back and when they meant to be
some of them may looked up against the moment.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Oh, I'll use this good weather that we're having to
get those folks.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Paul, thank you very much for having a gown with
us this afternoon.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
And I hope that those deer keep it being to
teared off those crops as you head.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Into your winter.

Speaker 9 (31:16):
Thanks. Jeers go, it's Luke.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Cowboy there farming down in the Weaker valley. Next, we're
heading over.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
To Black Mount, where we were going to catch up
with Harriet Pinckney who was on Country Calendar.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Last night The Muster with Andy Muir. Thanks to Peter's Genetics,
every trip means quite a bit when it's from Peter's Genetics.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Sonny and man she.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Button, welcome back to the Muster. We are now heading.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Over to Black Mount, and if you were tuning into
the TV last night, you may have seen Harriet and
Ed Pinckney as they featured on Country Calendar telling their
story and Harriet joins me this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Good afternoon, Harriet. How are you and how was last night?

Speaker 7 (32:06):
I love you, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
How your last night look?

Speaker 7 (32:09):
It's pretty nerve wracking to put yourself out there to
watch a program with the rest of the country that
you haven't been able to pre see. But yeah, feedback's
been great. We're really happy with it. And yeah, they
got some incredible footage of the farm, which is really cool.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Really cool to be able to see you guys and
where you've come from and where you're going. Got some
great horses coming along there too, which is a we
got close to my heart. But tell us a little
bit about that whole country calendar experience. And thirty minutes
on the TV. There's a lot more than thirty minutes

(32:47):
on the farm to get that footage.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Isn't there.

Speaker 8 (32:50):
Yeah, there is.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
It's definitely a different experience. You know, you're miked up
for four and a half days they were filming for
to get that. I think it ends up being about
seventeen minutes of airtime, you know. So for example, the
horse scene at the beginning with the breaking in the
horse in the yards and then Archie on his pony.

(33:14):
That was about four hours of filming to grab that,
So you know, you do a lot of filming and
a lot of talking and you don't really know what
parts are going to be pulled out from it. So
but you know, I think Country Calendar always do a
great job, don't they of streamlining everything and molding everything together.
So it's a nice smooth story and program.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
And how to Achi enjoy seeing himself on the TV.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yeah, well he sat still for the whole program, so
that's saying something for a.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Two year old.

Speaker 8 (33:44):
Yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
He could quite figure it out, but he was all
about chatting about Bonbon's pony and mum and dad and
we had a few friends come over, so yeah, it
was a lovely evening. And yeah, I think he thought
that it was pretty cool to see himself up there.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Oh, I know, great work.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
It was an awesome story and great to be able
to showcase a little farm. Well it's not so little
fun so close to our Fjordland National Park. But really
the points behind the story that you were really trying
to share as that whole on farm safety and everybody
going home at the end of the day, but also

(34:19):
educating our next generation.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
They had a little bit of footage.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
There when you were doing one of your days up
in the North Island.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Got a few more of those planned in the future.

Speaker 7 (34:32):
I like, yeah, love definitely want to keep running those days.
I think they're really important and a really positive thing
to hold in our rural communities and give the children
a chance to you know, slow down and actually have
these conversations that sometimes when we have kids on farms,
you know, life is a little hectic from time to time,

(34:52):
and I think, through no file of our own, we
don't stop to you know, actually have these conversations and
explain the why behind behind things and how we can
stay out of harm's way. So they are really a
really great way to do that and get you know,
people that are really passionate about each module to coming
and share their personal experiences around how you can stay safe.

(35:15):
And then you know the fact that the kids get
to take home two of the books at the end
of the day that a sponsored means that that learning
carries on from the day, which is practical, It goes
into the home with the stories and you know what
it's like reading stories with children. All the questions and
conversations come out of that, which is really powerful, and
in turn, the children are having these conversations with their parents,

(35:39):
which then gets taken out onto the farm and then
you find that the kids are saying things to Mum
and dad like, oh, we can't stand there because we'll
be in the tractive blind spot, or we need to
make sure that we stop this trailer down properly and
we have the weight in this part of the trailer.
Like you know, it's quite powerful stuff, and the kids
actually make you slow down and think about a job

(35:59):
that you're doing moment, which is you know, one of
the key things just staying safe for both adults and
the children.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
It's not just about making health and safety and extra.
It's making health and safety part of the conversation that
just falls into everyday.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Life, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
Yeah, you know, it's it's not really too and different
from our environmental stuff.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Really.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
I don't think it's just something that it's entwined into
everyday business, you know. And that's where I think that
the children are a really key target, because if they
grow up with these things instilled in them, then it
will just be something that they will do every day
when they're on the farm. You know, going away from that,

(36:42):
she'll be right attitude to that. Let's stop and think
about this for a minute and take a breath, and
you know, and think about the best way we can
do this. And generally the best way that you end
up doing a job ends up being the safest way anyway.
You know, people have all had situations where they've gone, oh,

(37:03):
I think I'd like to drive through the air because
it'll be faster if I get through and the other
ways got you know, I've got six gates to open.
But you know on yourself if you do go that
way that you end up getting stuck or something like that,
which actually ends up taking you longer and making you
feel more stressed. So following that gut feeling and stopping
and thinking about it, and then you know, you end

(37:25):
up with a better result.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Seven farmers have featured in the latest ac C stats
and it shows it more than fifteen hundred injured in
their line of work during twenty twenty five. We've still
got a little bit of work to do in this space,
and there's technology potentially able to play a role in
that piece as well.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
What are your views on that?

Speaker 7 (37:46):
Yeah, I lo, the stats aren't great are they, And
I think there is more work to do than what
we think in the industry when it comes to health,
safety and well being and in regards to technology. You know,
we've been having lots of conversations around the likes of
Halter recently and how that would change our business and

(38:06):
how we went, you know, how we would go about
every day farming, for instance, our beef cattle on the hills.
You know yourself, you've ridden your horse around. Our hills
are pretty steep. We don't take vehicles out there other
than the motorbike on the tracks. But generally we're on
a horse or walking. But you know, we do big
days out mustering, walking around and generally when you're doing

(38:28):
a big day mustering, that's because you're bringing stock into
the yards for another couple of big days, you know,
and that that can mean that people are tired, you know,
fatigue can set in, and then the role on effect
from that can be that somebody makes a mistake. You know,
if you had hold on the cows out there, you'd
be able to, you know, move them a bit more

(38:49):
easily without actually taking that human capacity to do it.
And therefore, by the time you get to the yards
to do the job over the conveyor and the kettle
yards crushing. How is that kind of thing you've actually
got fresher people. Obviously there's that angle. Where is it
going to take away from why we farm? And you've

(39:10):
been mustering with me, and it's really pretty cool being
out in the hill with your horse and your dogs
and doing that part of the job. But I think
if you can find the right balance with the technology
and use it in the right way, then you're not
going to completely eliminate the fun part, but you're going
to be able to balance that. How can we preserve
ourselves as people so that we are, you know, all

(39:33):
on a frame of mind where we can make good
decisions to therefore be safer overall, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
At the end of the day, we are farming because
we love being in the outdoors, fresh air, with stock,
and as you showcased on Country Calendar last night, being
able to walk around those hills and yes, I've had
the privilege to ride around.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Those hills as well, and your guys.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Risk elimination is having those horses on there instead of
vehicles and being able to get around and from a
mental health point of view. Then I think beat's getting
out and getting some fresh air, whether it's on foot
or on horse as well, So that also is going
to have benefits at the end of the day from
you might make a decision, but you'll rest here a
lot lowerl Yeah.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
Absolutely, And I think with the technology conversation, you know,
every property is so different, so what would work for
us is not going to work for perhaps our next
door neighbors. And how you use it and utilize it
will change depending on the property. So I think everybody's
going to have to just figure out the best fits

(40:35):
for them and when they can save people a bit,
and where we still need to be hands on and
that kind of thing, and that will just look different
for each property.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I think, Oh, congratulations Harriet, and a great show last night, and.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Look forward to catching up and seeing what's happening on
farm soon.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
Col Thanks love, thank you for having me, and appreciate
everybody taking the time to watch our story.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Loud with egg Proud, because life on the land can
be a laughing matter.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Brought to us by sheer Well Data working to help
the livestock farmer.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
I recently brought a chicken to help me make some sandwiches.
It doesn't.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
It poops, it makes a lot of noise, and no
sandwiches have been made, and man.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Shee you oh go fighting man.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Well, that brings us to the end of the hour
for a Monday. We got there.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
There was a few bloopers here and there, and I'm
sure we will only improve as the wheat goes on.
So thanks for your patience and thanks for having me.
We were back, same time, the same place tomorrow for
the muster on Hock Week, brought to you by Peters Genics.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
See it tomorrow

Speaker 3 (41:49):
For the drive clear man Mine Ma
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