July 29, 2026 • 45 mins
Andy Muir talks to Peter Gardyne, Grant Dermody, Olivia Weatherburn, Alan McLeary, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on HAKNOI. My
name's Andy Muller. We're along here until two o'clock this afternoon,
and the show is brought to you by Peterson Neddix.
On a mild afternoon here in Gore, currently around thirteen degrees.
We are going to see a correction in the weather
over the next twenty four hours, though we'll look at
that very shortly. Straight into it though quite a bit
(00:30):
to get through today. Cindy Lauper is the music this
song here she bop from the album She's So Unusual,
which came out in nineteen eighty three, which was in
Cindy Lauper was at the peak of her powers. For
goodness sake, she appeared at WrestleMania alongside the Hulk Hogan
Andrea Gian and Coast, so she was just an absolutely
jugging on in the nineteen eighties and as well. There's
(00:51):
a great documentary on Netflix all about USA for Africa
We Are the World, that song there and all being
in the one room and what they did to get
the single over the line. It's a fascinating watch.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
See Ponkanuiese five day Forecast with Twin farm teff from
and soft text. The proof is in the progeny tear
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Speaker 1 (01:14):
So this afternoon is cloudy, were light nor easterlies and
a higher fourteen tomorrow though it changes ray were Brissel
westerlees zero and date. Saturday cloudy. We're raising all westerlies
five and seven and on Sunday same result cloudy. We're
raising all westerly seven and twelve and Monday showers with
sou westerlys two and eight. So temperatures Clinton six point two,
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Harriet five point eight, Northern south and five point five
River to eight point three, town now six point five.
Shout out at the base in ninety point four FM,
I hope everything's going well this afternoon. Titoa seven point two,
Winton six point five and Woodlands it's six point nine.
Peter Gardine farming and Netdale starts us off talking about
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Hoggart feeding about two throughs of the way through the
pregnancy of the union not far away. So Pete talks
about a couple of things that he's found that helps
at this time of year. Grant Dermody in the Cargo
Deputy Mayor talks is in studio talking about council amalgamation.
It's a big topic and Grant tales about why the
(02:19):
mechanical city Council has their way of thinking around this
and why they think it's an option that needs to
be looked at. This is all coming to a head
very shortly. Olivia weather burna beef in New Zealand, talks
about scholarships that are available. Alan McCleary share our New Zealand.
We catch up with a great man for our regular
catch up and residents Sporting Gury Nathan burdon Stag Day
(02:39):
just around the corner. A lot of debut tites in
that Stags team. How they going to fair? Dave Morrison
at PGG writes and gives a rundown very shortly on
some outstanding lamb prices that will kick off the yewl
with Peter Garde and this is the muster here on
til two o'clock thanks to Peters genetics time seven after one.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
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Speaker 1 (03:15):
Peter Guardine is farming in Napdale and joins us find
this rather mild afternoon in the south. Good afternoon, Pete,
howse things?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Good, we're enjoying today. It's yeah, another nice same. We've
heard a good running, good weather, and we'll see what
the weekend brings.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
How have things been over the past three weeks or so?
I mean, July can be either your driest or your
wettest months. I think has been pretty good.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Oh, I think it's been a really good July. I
agree with you, and utilizations up. There's not much mud
on where the cows are and where the sheep are on.
The crops and stock are looking really good. And I
think we're just in that last bit of winter, starting
to look towards spring and hoping that it's coming around
the corner. And yeah, I think it's positive.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So your crops are going to work out about right, Yeah,
I think we're going.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
To work out about spot On. Always want to weave
bit more grass, But I'm I'm content where we are.
And I think it's just that time that you know,
the lambs are starting to pushing on the rumens and
the sheep and it's just time to keep that feeding
in front of the sheep and dairy cows are still
on for another week or so, and just time to
keep feeding the heck out of everything.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So you're just looking forward to spring and just what
everything that comes with it. Hopefully it's good stuff this year.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, definitely just looking forward to another season and yeah,
looking forward to I don't know, just another trip round
the sun. Have got a wee back away in August.
Encourage the staff to do the same thing as well,
So yeah, how can that last chance to have a
week breakaway from the farm before the spring gets crazy
for the sheep and beef, guys and girls, And yeah,
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look forward to another season.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So as far as staff getting a break, you more
or least tell them to take time off before he
gets busy.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, and their ideal policy is that they all have
at least a solid week in summer and a solid
week and winter, and you know whatever else around that
as well. You know, they're entitled to what they're entitled to,
and I think holidays are a great idea.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Now, it's interesting you talk about analogies for lambing, and
I was talking to you briefly before I reckon, like
you're saying, it's the last third of a pregnancy for
a year at the moment. And I always look at
things as a road trip to christ Church from Southland
and how far up the road you be, So if
you're at Abaru, you're about halfway through it. As such,
you get to Timmary one wards and you know you're
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seeing a bit of leeway, and when you get to
Roliston the traffic gains busy, Ashbird and onwards. Then you
know you're in the home stretch.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, I reckon, we's someway past Timorrow on your analogy there.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Andy, south can every really makes sense? Not far from Mckecahey, Yeah, yeah,
we're definitely we're getting there.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
We're getting there, and yeah, I think it's just that
time to have a break before you hit your destination
and yeah, just keep the keep ticking over. But I think, yeah,
I think the season so you get setting up pretty well,
and I mean it's it's fun with the markets, and
we sent some tailine lambs there at the end of
June and you know, all the start of July I
think it might have been and man, it's yeah, pretty positive.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So you're pretty happy with the price heading through into
the spring. These contracts are looking pretty tasty.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, I mean everything's looking good. Eh, We've got I
think we're hogot scanning later next week, so all our
dry hoggits will go to the works and that'll be
probably quite a positive. We are checking the mail.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I'd say hogget lambing, because do you do that quite
a bit on your farm. You have done for a
while when you're doing the scanting that basically stuff's about
to get real in a farming sense. What is it
that really intrigues you about hoggot lambing?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
What is it intrigues me about holiday hoggot lambing. It's
really the fact that, you know, a business needs to
stand on its own two feet. We did broak away
from a family business, but we're very much our own
gig and it's very much got to stand on its
own two feet. We're not you know, we just haven't
inherited a farm from mum and dad or anything like that.
And it's just why would I have a sheep that
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isn't making money on the property. And I think it
a bit grumpy when they call this sort of farming
dry stock farming, because we don't keep any dry animals
on this farm. And yeah, like our hogoits, they're capable
of weaning close to one hundred percent, and why would
we not do that? And yeah, so we cash up
at dry hogits. In the past when we're short of
hot shorter sheep, we would actually then use that money
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to buy any lamb you and usually it would only
cost us about twenty bucks to upgrade. But now we
just call the dry hogits. We call them winter lambs.
We just don't know which ones which.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Ultimately, though, terminology is terminology paid of nothing else.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, no, it is, it is. But you know, I
just think that hogits are very capable of weaning a lamb,
and we just prioritize feeding them well to get them
up to mating weight, and then we feed them really
well through winter. There's a guy, John McLaren from down south,
and we were sort of struggling away at seventy percent
hogot lambing and he oldest we needed to all grass
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wind our hogits, and as soon as we did that,
we jumped up to one hundred percent. And yeah, this
full credit to John for telling us that secret. And
I think it then allows them to be better twotos
because they've already had a crack at it and you've
prioritized growing them out early, and I think that's a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So the talk about hogs being too young to rear lambs,
you think that's just yesterday's thinking.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Well, let's put some numbers around this. In the start
a couple of years ago, we had a polled use
a texel you hog it. She had triplets, which is
not what I would like, and in a commercial sense,
I would have pulled obviously one of them off, but
being a starter, I don't want to stuff up the data.
And she read those three lambs and she had one
hundred and seven kilograms at weaning time. So if a
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hog it can do that, that's pretty freaking awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, I can't argue with that logic. You want to
give a shout out to Beef and Lamb as well.
The weabinars have got on there and just different things
for people to pick up a few tips for the
time of year.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I definitely we've got some younger staff members and we're
sort of looking at doing some introse in house training.
And I've been on some calls and some webinars back
in the day with Beef and m and the likes
of Trevor Cook and but yeah type stuff, and they're
all on YouTube and they're just an amazing resource to
be there. We can sit down like I am three
or four years later and rewatch them and then watch
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them with their staff. And I just think that side
of technology and the job that Beef and M does
is just really cool because you can do that at
a lunch time with your staff. You don't need to
go to a field day. And yeah, no, I think
it's I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
From a staffing viewpoint. I suppose they just pick up
tips or are they quite happy to ask you questions
regarding husbandry?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
You know, they're really good. Air stop Manager's done a
dip egg at far Management, the same as what I
did at Lincoln, and I think that was a really
valuable time in my life, and I think it brings
a different perspective, and I think that allows us to
pass that knowledge onto the other stuff that haven't done that,
and those tools like those beef Lamb videos and the
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podcasts and stuff like that a good ways of us
doing that with their staff and then having a discussion afterwards,
so they're learning from the experts like we did back
in the day, but then we can have the yarns afterwards.
In a safe environment where they can ask anything they want.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So when does lambing kick off?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Properly lambing kicks off for us the stud girls I
think start on the second or third September. We just
keep them over and done with, and then the commercial
start on the tenth of September. So still a bit
of still a bit of free time for us.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Good on your pete. We'll let you carry on and
next time we catch up, wipe you far away from
that time of year. Always good to catch other sounds.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Great hear from you.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Then playing the guard line of Netdale speaking of going
to christ Church. This is all about doing a U turn,
going down in the Cargo and coming back up to
Gore because in studio next is in the Cargo City Council.
Deputy Mere Grant, Germany, this is the master on Hakanui.
(11:07):
Grant Dermody is Vice or Deputy Mayor of Invercargoicago City Council,
one of the four councilors here in Southland involved and
we're basically it's depeding on how you look at it.
They're having to change their ways. We're talking about council
amalgamations has been the buzzword for the last three while
Grant's going to give us a bit of a rundown
from an Inmbicago City council perspective anyway regarding this, because
(11:30):
let's be honest, Rome wasn't built in a day and
neither was council amalgamation.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Good afternoon, grat Yeah, any welcome, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, look straight off the cuff. This is interesting times
for councils in the South. There's a lot on the
table either is.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
And I think to pick up on your sort of intro,
you know, as city councilor we've developed up a position
where we want to put forward a draft proposal. But
you know, I can absolutely assure you know listening is
that this is about thinking about Southland, you know, and
that's what's driven the work that I've done around that
Local Democracy work group is you know, this is about
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what's the best outcome for Southland.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So what are the differences between the head start as
such and local Government commission processes.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yes, so the head start proposal has been developed up
by the government, so they've introduced a process which is
both a head start and a backstop process. So councils
get the opportunity to submit which is a sketch outline.
It's not all the detail because the timefront doesn't allow
that of what they think amalgamation should look like in
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their regions. And then the backstop processes. If you don't
enter the head start, they will come and tell you
how it's going to be in your area, and so
that's not ideal. And then the Local Government Commission is
a separate legislative process which was started by the Southern
District Council about it months ago. They put a proposer
w which got accepted and so that's working through a
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legislative process around community engagement and this workshops happening this
week in South and they develop up a view around
the two options. They've sort of worked through four options
and settled on two options which eventually they would put
to a referendum. But the interesting thing to remember is
that the government can change the legislation, which effectively sets
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aside any outcome that the Local Government Commission comes up with.
So it's a bit of an interesting process ending and.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
They've only got to August the nine to get everything organized.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yeah, yeah, proposals have yeah, draft proposals, and remembering they
are at a high level but yes, it's been a
really full on process. Staff have worked incredibly hard to
get us to try and get us to the start line.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So I'm the Cargo City Council. Your preferences for one
unitary council across the region. What's the thinking.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, so the council's made a decision that they want
to draft a proposal. We then have to make another
decision next week around whether we submit a proposal, and
so what what's the what's the difference in the two proposals?
So the obviously the the one south then means that
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there's no no division around the river systems, the catchments,
those sorts of things. It's it's managed by one entity
the two you know, the two splits those river systems up,
which is quite problematic an air view, because the city
gets its water from the arete and a lot of
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the impact of the areaty if it's flooding and that
sort of thing. Yeah, well, the flooding risk to Southend
largely comes through that already catchment, so we would need
saying that. So how do you sort of manage a
regulatory process around one river and then the other river.
So it's a very challenging way to run the region
and have you.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Well, it's really interesting for a lot of people they're
looking at this grant straight from the outset, they're saying
rural needs to be separate to urban.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Yeah, and look, it's really important that people realize that
that's a genuine concern that I've heard, and you know,
the Local Government Local Democracy work group that we had
two councilors from Gore to from Southern District, one from
as and myself really looked into We had a number
of people present to us around that concern. And the
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proposal that we've come up with, which we've put to
Air Council and the other councils is local boards. Local
boards are the way to ensure that those local voices
have a say. And so how the difference between a
local board and a local and a community board. Is
a local boards legislated so it can't be changed by
a council, it has to go through a judicial review
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process to change. And they actually get their own budgets
so they actually can make decisions around what the spending
is in their local area. So that's really important and
I think, and I've thought about it a lot that
that's a really strong and abler for people in local
communities to make their own decisions and get stuff done.
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And I also think there'll be a benefit where a
dollar will go further in that model.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
What about historical debt levels. We all know the story
with Gored District Council and what's involved there. If it
becomes one unitary authority, how do we address that?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yeah, so look at if whatever the outcome of this process,
and let's say it is, you know, one regional unitary authority,
that council would need to decide whether the debt stays
with ring fenced within those council areas or it just
gets aggregated up and it's just considered as one. So
that look, that's a decision that that new council would
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have to take. There's benefit and probably just blending it.
You know, you get the economies of scale with it,
and it's probably an advantage for you know, the Gourd
district staying in west south and as opposed to perhaps
going with the east. Well, yeah, the eastern neighbors because
they're quite a high indebted council as well.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
As far as rates, that's a big one for a
lot of people too. I mean you're hearing here in
the Gourd district for example, for goodness sake, the counselor
is offering loans to people they can't afford to pay
rates that that shouldn't be the case. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
And look, affordability is really really important. So you know,
as Tom said, you know, doing it doing one outfit
doing it versus four outfits doing there has to be efficiencies, right,
and so what I believe will happen is that dollars
should go further, right, and so you should better keep
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rates increases, you know, at the lowest possible end, which
you know it's indicated sort of around that three or
four percent, which is the cost of inflation. Right, things
are always going to go up. People need wage increases,
things cost more pipes and all that sort of stuff,
or are always going up. So you've got to try
and keep those increases loll as possible. And so that's
where that efficiency piece comes into it. Doing it, doing
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it through one entity versus four entities should have efficiencies
and the and the numbers show, you know, the savings
of around that sort of nineteen million after you get
through the first four years.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, that's when I don't even be having to sort
that one out licensing trusts, what happens there. I mean,
if we're one council and they've still got ilt MLT operating,
but it's a one council of a model as such.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, look, that's that's probably quite a technical legal question
that you know, I'm not probably able to answer. But
what I will say is, look, those those entities have
delivered a huge amount of value to you know, not
only the Gore district, but equally then the Cargo area
and across in all of Southern's benefit. So we would
have to look at how we protect that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
In my view, Okay, I say this does get the
going here. Grant you've got the transition costs of moving
to one council and as well. Another thing regarding this
is whether the scale is generally going to improve the
infrastructure and bang for back and such for the region.
Would you agree? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah, Look that's the challenge and I think we have
to deliver it, and I think we've got to think
differently about how we deliver infrastructure. And so you know,
we was at a meeting last night with Infrastructure New
Zealand and one of the proposals they've put forward, as
you know, the same as we have a chief Science,
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chief of Science, you know, maybe we need a Chief
of water and a chief of infrastructure. So they are
specialists that are enabling good decisions to be made around it.
And so, you know, I think the key with delivering
any infrastructure project is you know, really strong project management,
strong governance across that and being really realistic and not
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trying to build goal platea where you don't need to.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
What chance we get the four councils on the same.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Page, I would hope we could get to that point.
If I was you're asking me to put a bed
on it, as the horses are lining up right at
the moment, I'd say that's probably unlikely.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So what's the ramifications if that goes through like that?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
So, so the headstart process requires two councils to be
on the same page with the bids. So what you
possibly may get is, you know, one group, which would
be Southern District, putting a proposal forward and they may
be supported by the Gore District. Gore may swing in
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behind the one South in proposal for us, or we
may put in a non conforming bid which the government
said they will give consideration too, and you know, we
think that's really important, but it's council is still going
to make a decision because you know, this is all
about us designing our future. We don't want to be told,
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you know, we don't want to be end up here
in two years time with commissioners saying this is what's
good for you Southern.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
That would be an absolute disaster. So we'll be given,
we're given the opportunity to put the destiny in it
in their own hands as such.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Absolutely, and I think you know what that's what help
you know, we're where why we see it's important to
put a proposal together. But as I say, Air Council's
got to vote on that next week. We we have
to get in the minds of the decision makers and
they need to understand what good looks like and great
looks like for South and and my view good only.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Grant, thanks your Tom, Thank you Grant Dermody and the
Cargo Deputy Mayor. Regarding council amalgamation. You're listening to the
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Click Beef lambendz dot com olive your Weatherburn joins us
in the Beef and Lambs slot for a Thursday. How
are you living? I'm good, Andy, How are you living?
The dream? Blue sky or quite a blue sky? But
it's warm, it's nice. Something might be brewing for a
day or so, but live on the present day. It's winter.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
You don't complain about the weather.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And winter, absolutely, but you can. It's a farming prerogative.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Well, exactly what we're going to complain about something. If
we're complaining about that, we're leaving someone else alone.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well, we're not complaining about scholarships that are involved with
Beef and Lamb.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
No, everybody loves a scholarship. So yeah, it's part of
my role at Beef and Lamb. I lead our scholarships
and I am pleased to let everyone know that. In
twenty twenty seven, because our financial year is from the
first of October, so we will be offering up to
twenty six scholarships across the country. They will include everything
(22:47):
from tertiary right through to those to be able to
complete some professional development and also New Zealand rural leaders,
so lots of opportunities for farmers to be able to
take those steps they want to take.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You Met talked about it last week and the positives
that he's seen doing it and just getting out of
your comfort zone. It's a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
And it's also that network of people that can get
put around you. And I suppose the scholarships not just
the monetary value. It is the networks and the connections
and some of that development piece and package that we
put around it that people get a lot of value
out of as well.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Up take on these what's it.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Like, Yeah, really good uptakes. If I take the tertiary
scholarships for example, last year had over forty applications, so
there's definitely people out there. And that was we'd actually
lowered the monetary value on that right down. And that's
saying that, yeah, people want it for that connection piece.
But the Southern South Island have their local one out
at present, So if you're wanting to go and do
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something in your development, there is up to seven and
a half thousand dollars to target a training and development
opportunities with the Southern South Island Farmer council, and you
just need to be involved on a sheep and beef
farm aged between twenty one to thirty five and have
at least three to four years experience working on the
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sheep and beef sector and obviously demonstrate a commitment for
long term. Like all our scholarships, it's a long term investment.
What is your scholar what is why you getting a scholarship?
What are you going to give to the wider community
as well? So what can you give back from your learnings?
But they look open at the moment and they close
(24:28):
on the thirty first of August, so you've got a
month to get that in.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You said learnings. Learnings, Yes, some people, I'm frown upon
that word. Well you never to him from the leader.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
Well, it means he's listening and I'm keeping him on
his toes.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, very good. You did a podcast recently regarding triplets
and triplets seem to be the new singles, as in
there a bit of a problem. Yeah, they definitely are.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
We're hearing lots of scanning coming through and when you
first get a really good scanning result, it's like, yay, yes,
we're making things, and then that daunting fact comes over again. Oh,
how do I feed them?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What do I do?
Speaker 8 (25:11):
What do I do?
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I have to change anything? And that's the questions that
are coming through. So what we did is we did
a podcast with David Stevens and who is years of
experience with.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Not David Stevens, a dear farmer from Belfa.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
Not David Stevens. No, yes, the different David Stevens. He
is from Bio the new ag research, the bioeconomy science.
I think they call themselves now b sign And so
we talked everything in regards with another farmer, in regards
to what you need to know around triplets, lemming and
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actually preparing those you. So if you haven't heard that,
jump on the beef and lambs scene and heard podcast.
One instant conversation was there was the importance of protein
and actually adding protein into the diet for these guys.
There's also a webinar coming up next Thursday, the sixth
of August. Yeah, we're into August already. Is that you
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can catch up with him in sum Accord who's been
doing some research. They've been in some on farm research
in this space as well. Must be very popular topic
because there's over one hundred and seventy farmers as farmers
registered as of now and we're still a week out.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
It's interesting the triplets all of a sudden have just
come to the real big focus.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Yeah, I think it's because they are so many of
them have appeared on the scanning sheets this year, and
you want to make sure that that is more than
a number that appears on the sheet at the end
of the day. That's not what you get paid for.
You get paid for the number that is at the
other end. So how do we actually ensure that once
they hit the ground, they actually do something with them.
(26:49):
It's that survival piece and we might winter hasn't arrived yet,
but we know when it usually does. So how what
are some of those things that we can put around
it to help limit those risks?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
So what else has been happening beef and land wise?
What's been going on?
Speaker 7 (27:03):
There's lots of stuff. I'm constantly just working on our
delivery workshops. So behind the scenes, my role is to
ensure that those workshops are fit for purpose for the
team to be able to deliver. So that's everything from
feed budgeting through to protecting your patch biosecurity. But one
exciting project I've been working on also is the virtual
reality headsets, which are getting out there and getting a
(27:26):
bit more traction.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
They're freaking, they are so freaking.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
A lot of farmers get vertigo from putting in.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
You do you put it on, you lose your spatial
awareness and you freak.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Yeah, but it's the most real, most the best way
to be put in a situation without having to be
put in the situation, and for some people that can't
actually get out and experience it, it is the most
real place to do it. So we've teamed out with
the Food and Fiber Cove last year or maybe two
years ago actually now, and we developed this module on
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cattle hand and it's in the yards and you're standing
on top of the rails and I know farmers have
said they've put it on. If they don't sit down,
they feel like they're going to fall off the rails
into the cattle yards. But it gives you a really
good awareness of even how cattle see you, how to
move in the yards. And the idea is that schools
will use it, cadet farms and the likes be able
(28:19):
to actually show because you don't know what you don't
know if you haven't candled cattle before. It just gives
you some awareness before you put in a situation to
actually understand or that yeah no, actually that's right. Don't
stand there, and it might actually just prevent someone getting
crushed or kicked, which is where the most injuries are
coming from.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Just don't have a piece of al cathine in your
hand when you've got that headset on. That'll be my
advice on enclosed space. A few people got whacked. If
that was the case, absolutely girl. Thanks ending Olivia weatherburn
Out of beef and Land, New Zealand. Up next, Ala McCleary.
If you've got a problem with triplets and you need
a feeding solution this spring, Ala mcclearya, Donaldson's Dairy might
(28:59):
have the thing just for you. He's up next. Welcome
back to the Muster. Alan McCleary of Sheerwew, New Zealand
joins us on this rather mild afternoon down here in
(29:21):
the Deep South. Good afternoon, Alan, here you go, and mate,
you're right pretty good. Cindy Lauper, you you're a big fan.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I am. I am, Yeah, I know. I quite like
the idea of girls having fun as long as I'm
involved you know, singing and dancing.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I mean that, Joe.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I didn't mean that, Joe, it was it was I
was talking back in my single days.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Honestly, you're on fire already ten seconds in.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Sheer.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, how's it going.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, it's good, we're going really well. It's it's meant
to be a quiet month, but it's not. We're the
cattle tags and your new boss tags are flying out
the door sheep tags.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
We're actually you know.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
We're way out in front of where we've been any
other year, this time of the year. So you know,
it's great rays running around like a blue you know,
bottled fly in a bottle.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
So i'd say a headless chuck.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
Yeah, okay, we'll go aheadless chaluk. That sounds better than it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah. I was going to say something else, and I remember,
you know, I'm on the radio.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
No you can say it. It just doesn't it might
just not have universal approval.
Speaker 9 (30:26):
Well we won't go with that. We'll try and keep it,
you know.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
So where do we find you today?
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Well?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I was actually hidden middle March and Hide. But we've
been I've been pulling over all the time with phone
calls and orders and inquiries. So I've actually only got
as far as out from and I'm pretty sure I'm
not actually going to end up.
Speaker 9 (30:45):
And hide today. I can see that.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
So so do you know, all good? Just people inquiring
about the heat waves. They're getting pretty popular with you know,
lambs and beef schedules where they are people are and
the milk powder hasn't gone through the roof, so it's
a pretty good option to keep everything alive and solved.
So yeah, there's a few of them moving out the door.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, it's interesting that a lot of people talk about
the amount of triplets they're having this year and being
a curse. But the way that lamb's looking, the red
meat price still looking pretty buoyant. So if you are
going to hand raise stuff, well, the heat waves are
perfect solution now on well they.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Are, you know, they're so reasonably priced and they're so
straightforward to operate, like as long as you clean them
every day, there's very very few problems with them, and
the stock does so well on them. They're you know,
they're insides nice and warm, we feed when they want.
They're actually doing better than some of the some of
the livestock on mum, sir.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
It's a no brainer really.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
In it add live feed systems are the way to
go if you're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the days of going doing the
lambing beaten. You see a lamb and you think, well,
i'll have a look at him on the way back,
hoping the problem will be solved. We've got to get
past that, haven't we.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Well, at the moment when they're worth the money they are,
you're almost holding a seance when one passes.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well, no, I haven't got that far yet, but oh yeah,
I'll keep it in mind. I'll give you a tingle
when I need one.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
All right. Hey, the speedy tag applicators tell us about those.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, yeah, well that was sort of a work in
motion that one. We were we were trying to sort
of fast track it. But anyway, never just we never
had a quite in that sweet spot. So we've we've
done that. We've done everything that we've We've opened the
jaws and we've made the jaws different so the tag
SIT's better and the cartridge is moving across a lot smoother.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
So we've got all that ironed out.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
So anybody that actually bought one earlier on that's not
one hundred percent give us a tingle and we'll see
you're right with a new one.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You're talking about fast tracks. The speedy tag is a
part of the fast track legislation.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You know, we'd move quicker than that made you need
to do with legislation. We're way out in front of that.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Well, it's a purpose, a fast treat. You go through
all the red tape and just bordauze and get stuff
done regardless. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
No, look, we we thought we were trying to just
sort of marry on to our other old one and
yeah it worked, but just just not not as well
as it should have done. So but we've done all that.
We've gone back to the drawing board. The guys have
sorted all the problems out and yeah, yeah, So if
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you've got an old one and you're not overly happy
with it, just give me a yodel and we'll we'll
sort you out.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So, what events have you been to recently or anything
coming up before lambing?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Not really, I haven't been to any beef and lamb
things or that. I've just been I've just been cold calling,
to be fair. I've been down around Southland and through
the Catlands and yeah, and I've just been out having
a chat with everybody, and everybody seems to be reasonably happy,
and there's plenty of plenty of feed out there, and
it's yeah, everything's pretty boyant, really.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
It it is. And when you do your rounds you
hear of a lot of reps doing this. A lot
of people are graph because I heard it from one
of the South they work for the daily sheet as
to where they're going to get the best coffee in
the morning. Do you do that?
Speaker 9 (34:12):
No, no, no, I'm too busy. I don't stop and
have coffee. The boss is listening.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
No, no, no, no, I'm always always working, work, work.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Work, good to hear. Look, so the big news, the
big thing with you guys is it's busy. But you're
always wanted people to get in touch with your regarding
tag orders, regarding your kettle tags, sheep tags or whatever.
And yeah, like we say, the heat wave milk system
sent absolutely something to keep in mind when he gets busy.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Yeah, definitely. And look just ring us. We're all up,
always up for a yarn. Ray on myself.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
We've got young being up in the North Island. He's
going to have her and tongs. So yeah, it's we're
easy to get ahold of and yeah, answer your questions,
take your orders.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
What did you like?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
But we are we're just growing. It's it's I can't
get my head around how I keep thinking that we're
going to slow down, but we're actually speeding up constantly.
It's it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
The word of Alan McCleary is spreading, only getting bigger
and wider in this country of ours. And if people
want to get in touch to keep you even busy, yeah,
how do they do it? Alan?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Just give me a ring on two seven two three
two double four, double eight. That's your best. That's your
best bet you'll get a hold of me here. Or
you can give Ray a ring on eight hundred and
seven triple nine eight nine.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
One thing I'll give you credit for over the years
as you finally remembered your phone number.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
I was a bit hesident there on that last one.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Mate, Hey, good only Allen, always good to catch up.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Enjoy the afternoon, right mate, Thanks Andy catches later.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Alan McCleary of sheer Our, New Zealand. This is the
muster before we wrap up our residents sporting gury Nathan
Burden a hit of stag Day Nathan Brandon is our residence.
(36:04):
Sporting Geruin joins us once again this afternoon, Good afternoon,
Nath Stagg day. It is just about it is just
about upon us.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Yeah, it's a big week, isn't it, leading into Stag
Week the MPC opener, and this one's just a little
bit more special than normal, being the two hundred and
fiftieth game between these two very proud rugby provinces.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Fourteen debut toms in the Southland starting team that or
that's in the reserves as well, that's got to be
close to a record, it must be.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Yeah. Yeah, I've charged Logan Savory actually with trying to
go back through the record books and trying to put
his finger on that. And if there's any man that
could do it, it'll be it'll be sad. But yeah, yeah,
I mean, I guess it speaks to sort of the
preseason that the Stags had number of injuries, a little
bit of unavailability, some of that very positive unavailability obviously,
(36:59):
but yeah, there's there's the opportunity for a number of
people to make themselves heroes on Saturday afternoon, and you know,
I am excited to see young Timmy Jimmy Taylor running
out in that number ten jersey for the for the Stags.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
That'll be really interesting to see how he goes because
you talk about pressure and expectation, it doesn't get any
bigger than playing a Tago first game up in the
season and number gaggle.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Yeah, on the face of it, you could say, you know,
this is a this is a massive test for a
guy that's only just turned nineteen. But even last year
when he was sort of in that in that last
year of high school and he and he signed with
with the Stags at that stage, the talk was that
this was a kid that was more than capable of
playing potentially first year out of school, and through a
(37:44):
number of circumstances, most recently but of a bit of
a thigh injury for Mika Muleine, they find themselves in
a situation where they've given the jersey to Jimmy and
hugely confident, hugely talented young guy just back from the
New Zealand twenties got called up there as an injury
replacement ironically for Meker. So yeah, I mean you were back.
(38:07):
I think hopefully if that that Ford pack, and it
is a decent Southern Ford pack too, hopefully that Ford
Pack can give him some front.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Football to work with, but a lot of injuries in
the back line. There's been the key factor from preseason.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Yeah, almost unknown to be honest, isn't it when you
look at that lineup. But there's there's enough. There's enough
in there. There's the great to see Michael Manson come
back after a bit of an injury cloud over him
next year. Is obviously a talented, you know, super rugby
quality half back. But when we look at I guess
(38:41):
the guys on the other side of the ball. This
is an a Targo team that was a runner up
in the in the NPC last year and very much
a settled side. Only only a handful of changes from
the lineup so that there'll be a heck of a challenge.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
So me see two, Tyler Lower getting the call up
to go with his mate Ethan Degress into the A.
I mean it sucks from a Stag's perspective, but from
a South and supporter suspective as well, somebody else putting
himself up in higher colors. It's great.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Yeah, just a I mean a great story all round.
A guy that was probably you know, really struggling to
find a rugby pathway, and he had a few key
people that that backed him. Matt Saunders was was a
key to that. But then when you talk to Matt,
he'll he'll save the likes of your Steve Mitchell's who
were the Rugby South and CE at the time, also
(39:31):
firmly in that camp. They took a punt and then
they really they really pushed him in terms of you know,
when one door wouldn't open, they headed up to Mawana Pacifica.
They put a wee bit of money out there to
ensure that he got an opportunity and then some MESI
grabbed it with both hands, you know, went played or played.
(39:52):
He was involved in the preseason with Mawana, was no
contact at that stage, but did enough through that period
and then then once he got that starting Jersey never
really let it up and some of the numbers that
he's produced in Super Rugby over the last couple of
seasons have have just been freekish and I guess the
likes of you know, Tana Umang has seen that close up.
Ardie Saby has seen that close up. So they will
(40:13):
have given Dave Any some pretty good reports and some
confidence taking another game on him.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Southand Sharks from the NBA. They got past the five
last night in the elimination final, but they made hard
work of it.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Yeah, I mean I think it was sixteen points at
one stage and you really thought so. I think the
season's over and it would have been a would have
been a disappointing way to finish, particularly with the you know,
a big, a big moment for Jill Bolga, the long
standing GM being recognized after the game. So great to
(40:48):
see the Sharks get back up and hope we're still alive.
They'll head up to the Rams and christ Church, a
team that you know they've beaten twice this season, including
a game up there in the in the new Stadium,
so you know they can get that job done. And
if results still go their way, we could still have
a home ground final at Ilt Stadium South and wouldn't
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that be special?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Are they a realistic chance of winning the competition?
Speaker 6 (41:14):
I think the second half Sharks are definitely a team
capable of doing it. First half Sharks not so much.
And against the Kenneby Rams that they won that title
two years ago. They are a quality side, well coached.
Obviously playing at home, you know they will be tough
(41:35):
to beat. We can't afford to go into a sixteen
point hole early on against them. We need to start
well and then we need to kick on. So it's
as simple as that. But you know, once again they've
given themselves an opportunity and it's there for Jonathan Yim
and his and his players to take.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
This is from one of the more bizarre sporting stories
of the week. The Saltburn second eleven cracket team is
in disgrace one play. Yeah, they're knowing his name is
Brian Devine, but he's been nicknamed Clickie planting. He's sick,
he's at the slip, he's clicking his fingers when the
ball goes past the bad He got caught out the
other day. But the interesting thing around this is they're
looking back at scorecards. Whenever he didn't play, they didn't
(42:15):
have half the catchers at worket keeper they were having
because at some games they were getting seven catches, so
he wasn't playing the zany maybe one or two. But
this is certainly one of the more one of the
more bizarre situations, but cracket as well, or just sporting genial.
It shows that if you get caught out, you will
get caught out in a big way.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
Well, yeah, delightfully bizarre, to be honest, because I mean,
a why did he ever think about it? Why would you?
Why would you? And then be why would you even
think you could get away with it for a period
of time?
Speaker 5 (42:46):
You know.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
Cricket's just one of those games. I guess it's we do.
We sort of lean into the traditions of the game,
and there's that gentleman aspect to it that gets tested
at times, and this guy's obviously pushed it to the limit.
But it's just seem like such an unsustainable thing to do,
not even a moment of madness, things like thing, maybe
you got away with it in the first game and
(43:07):
just thought he'd see how how much longer he could
keep it going for. But yeah, it's going to lead
to plenty of memes and jokes and that sort of
thing over the next few days, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Well they've come out with a saltbur and Cricket Club
cheating a live and beer with me on this Click
Knight Marcus Trescoth click Clique Ponting Graham click Snapple dev
Mark Clickerlis click Marx snap, Russell Bleair Klickner, Martin Klecknel
and like like click my finger, it's twelve man stuff.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Sounds like a sounds like a handy lineup.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Mate, It does, doesn't it. But nonetheless like all the
best of sharks coming up against the Rams as well.
Antler's up for Saturday. Know it's always good to chat.
Speaker 8 (43:49):
Yeah, absolutely, Antle's up.
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How do we fare afternoon?
Speaker 8 (44:32):
Andy? You're pretty pretty quiet morning this morning, Andy of
their smallest yeuting for the season to start the best
of the Lambs very very heavy names. They are not
four hundred dollars. And the rest of the Lambs and the
good million Ford lanes a sort of two forty two
sixty with the light of the prime names. Just to
run some of the early two hundreds. Like I said,
(44:54):
small yet in there no rams today into the section. Mason, Yeah,
Mathon was pretty good, but lucky small yard. In their
best they use to twenty to two forty milliums sort
of one eighty one eighty five, one ninety with the
light condition used store unders on hundred and forty hundred
and fifty dollars. Stall aims very small yelion the today
(45:15):
only only a half dozen pens. The best of them
are one seventy one twenty five millions of one fifty
in the light of the stall lands just start to
fade away. We went now sort of one thirty five
one forty and and that reps it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Up four hundred dollars. It would be a record for
a store for a Lamb at Charlton.
Speaker 8 (45:30):
A pretty good anybody. They were monsters. They were very
You wouldn't seen them anyiger make to be honest, but
they're very good, very good, very
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on HAKNOI. My
name's Andy Muller. We're along here until two o'clock this afternoon,
and the show is brought to you by Peterson Neddix.
On a mild afternoon here in Gore, currently around thirteen degrees.
We are going to see a correction in the weather
over the next twenty four hours, though we'll look at
that very shortly. Straight into it though quite a bit
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to get through today. Cindy Lauper is the music this
song here she bop from the album She's So Unusual,
which came out in nineteen eighty three, which was in
Cindy Lauper was at the peak of her powers. For
goodness sake, she appeared at WrestleMania alongside the Hulk Hogan
Andrea Gian and Coast, so she was just an absolutely
jugging on in the nineteen eighties and as well. There's
(00:51):
a great documentary on Netflix all about USA for Africa
We Are the World, that song there and all being
in the one room and what they did to get
the single over the line. It's a fascinating watch.
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So this afternoon is cloudy, were light nor easterlies and
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Shout out at the base in ninety point four FM,
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Winton six point five and Woodlands it's six point nine.
Peter Gardine farming and Netdale starts us off talking about
(01:58):
Hoggart feeding about two throughs of the way through the
pregnancy of the union not far away. So Pete talks
about a couple of things that he's found that helps
at this time of year. Grant Dermody in the Cargo
Deputy Mayor talks is in studio talking about council amalgamation.
It's a big topic and Grant tales about why the
(02:19):
mechanical city Council has their way of thinking around this
and why they think it's an option that needs to
be looked at. This is all coming to a head
very shortly. Olivia weather burna beef in New Zealand, talks
about scholarships that are available. Alan McCleary share our New Zealand.
We catch up with a great man for our regular
catch up and residents Sporting Gury Nathan burdon Stag Day
(02:39):
just around the corner. A lot of debut tites in
that Stags team. How they going to fair? Dave Morrison
at PGG writes and gives a rundown very shortly on
some outstanding lamb prices that will kick off the yewl
with Peter Garde and this is the muster here on
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Speaker 1 (03:15):
Peter Guardine is farming in Napdale and joins us find
this rather mild afternoon in the south. Good afternoon, Pete,
howse things?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Good, we're enjoying today. It's yeah, another nice same. We've
heard a good running, good weather, and we'll see what
the weekend brings.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
How have things been over the past three weeks or so?
I mean, July can be either your driest or your
wettest months. I think has been pretty good.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Oh, I think it's been a really good July. I
agree with you, and utilizations up. There's not much mud
on where the cows are and where the sheep are on.
The crops and stock are looking really good. And I
think we're just in that last bit of winter, starting
to look towards spring and hoping that it's coming around
the corner. And yeah, I think it's positive.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So your crops are going to work out about right, Yeah,
I think we're going.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
To work out about spot On. Always want to weave
bit more grass, But I'm I'm content where we are.
And I think it's just that time that you know,
the lambs are starting to pushing on the rumens and
the sheep and it's just time to keep that feeding
in front of the sheep and dairy cows are still
on for another week or so, and just time to
keep feeding the heck out of everything.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So you're just looking forward to spring and just what
everything that comes with it. Hopefully it's good stuff this year.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, definitely just looking forward to another season and yeah,
looking forward to I don't know, just another trip round
the sun. Have got a wee back away in August.
Encourage the staff to do the same thing as well,
So yeah, how can that last chance to have a
week breakaway from the farm before the spring gets crazy
for the sheep and beef, guys and girls, And yeah,
(04:50):
look forward to another season.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So as far as staff getting a break, you more
or least tell them to take time off before he
gets busy.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, and their ideal policy is that they all have
at least a solid week in summer and a solid
week and winter, and you know whatever else around that
as well. You know, they're entitled to what they're entitled to,
and I think holidays are a great idea.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Now, it's interesting you talk about analogies for lambing, and
I was talking to you briefly before I reckon, like
you're saying, it's the last third of a pregnancy for
a year at the moment. And I always look at
things as a road trip to christ Church from Southland
and how far up the road you be, So if
you're at Abaru, you're about halfway through it. As such,
you get to Timmary one wards and you know you're
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seeing a bit of leeway, and when you get to
Roliston the traffic gains busy, Ashbird and onwards. Then you
know you're in the home stretch.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, I reckon, we's someway past Timorrow on your analogy there.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Andy, south can every really makes sense? Not far from Mckecahey, Yeah, yeah,
we're definitely we're getting there.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
We're getting there, and yeah, I think it's just that
time to have a break before you hit your destination
and yeah, just keep the keep ticking over. But I think, yeah,
I think the season so you get setting up pretty well,
and I mean it's it's fun with the markets, and
we sent some tailine lambs there at the end of
June and you know, all the start of July I
think it might have been and man, it's yeah, pretty positive.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So you're pretty happy with the price heading through into
the spring. These contracts are looking pretty tasty.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, I mean everything's looking good. Eh, We've got I
think we're hogot scanning later next week, so all our
dry hoggits will go to the works and that'll be
probably quite a positive. We are checking the mail.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I'd say hogget lambing, because do you do that quite
a bit on your farm. You have done for a
while when you're doing the scanting that basically stuff's about
to get real in a farming sense. What is it
that really intrigues you about hoggot lambing?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
What is it intrigues me about holiday hoggot lambing. It's
really the fact that, you know, a business needs to
stand on its own two feet. We did broak away
from a family business, but we're very much our own
gig and it's very much got to stand on its
own two feet. We're not you know, we just haven't
inherited a farm from mum and dad or anything like that.
And it's just why would I have a sheep that
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isn't making money on the property. And I think it
a bit grumpy when they call this sort of farming
dry stock farming, because we don't keep any dry animals
on this farm. And yeah, like our hogoits, they're capable
of weaning close to one hundred percent, and why would
we not do that? And yeah, so we cash up
at dry hogits. In the past when we're short of
hot shorter sheep, we would actually then use that money
(07:27):
to buy any lamb you and usually it would only
cost us about twenty bucks to upgrade. But now we
just call the dry hogits. We call them winter lambs.
We just don't know which ones which.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Ultimately, though, terminology is terminology paid of nothing else.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, no, it is, it is. But you know, I
just think that hogits are very capable of weaning a lamb,
and we just prioritize feeding them well to get them
up to mating weight, and then we feed them really
well through winter. There's a guy, John McLaren from down south,
and we were sort of struggling away at seventy percent
hogot lambing and he oldest we needed to all grass
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wind our hogits, and as soon as we did that,
we jumped up to one hundred percent. And yeah, this
full credit to John for telling us that secret. And
I think it then allows them to be better twotos
because they've already had a crack at it and you've
prioritized growing them out early, and I think that's a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So the talk about hogs being too young to rear lambs,
you think that's just yesterday's thinking.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Well, let's put some numbers around this. In the start
a couple of years ago, we had a polled use
a texel you hog it. She had triplets, which is
not what I would like, and in a commercial sense,
I would have pulled obviously one of them off, but
being a starter, I don't want to stuff up the data.
And she read those three lambs and she had one
hundred and seven kilograms at weaning time. So if a
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hog it can do that, that's pretty freaking awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, I can't argue with that logic. You want to
give a shout out to Beef and Lamb as well.
The weabinars have got on there and just different things
for people to pick up a few tips for the
time of year.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I definitely we've got some younger staff members and we're
sort of looking at doing some introse in house training.
And I've been on some calls and some webinars back
in the day with Beef and m and the likes
of Trevor Cook and but yeah type stuff, and they're
all on YouTube and they're just an amazing resource to
be there. We can sit down like I am three
or four years later and rewatch them and then watch
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them with their staff. And I just think that side
of technology and the job that Beef and M does
is just really cool because you can do that at
a lunch time with your staff. You don't need to
go to a field day. And yeah, no, I think
it's I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
From a staffing viewpoint. I suppose they just pick up
tips or are they quite happy to ask you questions
regarding husbandry?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
You know, they're really good. Air stop Manager's done a
dip egg at far Management, the same as what I
did at Lincoln, and I think that was a really
valuable time in my life, and I think it brings
a different perspective, and I think that allows us to
pass that knowledge onto the other stuff that haven't done that,
and those tools like those beef Lamb videos and the
(10:01):
podcasts and stuff like that a good ways of us
doing that with their staff and then having a discussion afterwards,
so they're learning from the experts like we did back
in the day, but then we can have the yarns afterwards.
In a safe environment where they can ask anything they want.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So when does lambing kick off?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Properly lambing kicks off for us the stud girls I
think start on the second or third September. We just
keep them over and done with, and then the commercial
start on the tenth of September. So still a bit
of still a bit of free time for us.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Good on your pete. We'll let you carry on and
next time we catch up, wipe you far away from
that time of year. Always good to catch other sounds.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Great hear from you.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Then playing the guard line of Netdale speaking of going
to christ Church. This is all about doing a U turn,
going down in the Cargo and coming back up to
Gore because in studio next is in the Cargo City Council.
Deputy Mere Grant, Germany, this is the master on Hakanui.
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Grant Dermody is Vice or Deputy Mayor of Invercargoicago City Council,
one of the four councilors here in Southland involved and
we're basically it's depeding on how you look at it.
They're having to change their ways. We're talking about council
amalgamations has been the buzzword for the last three while
Grant's going to give us a bit of a rundown
from an Inmbicago City council perspective anyway regarding this, because
(11:30):
let's be honest, Rome wasn't built in a day and
neither was council amalgamation.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Good afternoon, grat Yeah, any welcome, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, look straight off the cuff. This is interesting times
for councils in the South. There's a lot on the
table either is.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
And I think to pick up on your sort of intro,
you know, as city councilor we've developed up a position
where we want to put forward a draft proposal. But
you know, I can absolutely assure you know listening is
that this is about thinking about Southland, you know, and
that's what's driven the work that I've done around that
Local Democracy work group is you know, this is about
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what's the best outcome for Southland.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So what are the differences between the head start as
such and local Government commission processes.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yes, so the head start proposal has been developed up
by the government, so they've introduced a process which is
both a head start and a backstop process. So councils
get the opportunity to submit which is a sketch outline.
It's not all the detail because the timefront doesn't allow
that of what they think amalgamation should look like in
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their regions. And then the backstop processes. If you don't
enter the head start, they will come and tell you
how it's going to be in your area, and so
that's not ideal. And then the Local Government Commission is
a separate legislative process which was started by the Southern
District Council about it months ago. They put a proposer
w which got accepted and so that's working through a
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legislative process around community engagement and this workshops happening this
week in South and they develop up a view around
the two options. They've sort of worked through four options
and settled on two options which eventually they would put
to a referendum. But the interesting thing to remember is
that the government can change the legislation, which effectively sets
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aside any outcome that the Local Government Commission comes up with.
So it's a bit of an interesting process ending and.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
They've only got to August the nine to get everything organized.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yeah, yeah, proposals have yeah, draft proposals, and remembering they
are at a high level but yes, it's been a
really full on process. Staff have worked incredibly hard to
get us to try and get us to the start line.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So I'm the Cargo City Council. Your preferences for one
unitary council across the region. What's the thinking.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, so the council's made a decision that they want
to draft a proposal. We then have to make another
decision next week around whether we submit a proposal, and
so what what's the what's the difference in the two proposals?
So the obviously the the one south then means that
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there's no no division around the river systems, the catchments,
those sorts of things. It's it's managed by one entity
the two you know, the two splits those river systems up,
which is quite problematic an air view, because the city
gets its water from the arete and a lot of
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the impact of the areaty if it's flooding and that
sort of thing. Yeah, well, the flooding risk to Southend
largely comes through that already catchment, so we would need
saying that. So how do you sort of manage a
regulatory process around one river and then the other river.
So it's a very challenging way to run the region
and have you.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Well, it's really interesting for a lot of people they're
looking at this grant straight from the outset, they're saying
rural needs to be separate to urban.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Yeah, and look, it's really important that people realize that
that's a genuine concern that I've heard, and you know,
the Local Government Local Democracy work group that we had
two councilors from Gore to from Southern District, one from
as and myself really looked into We had a number
of people present to us around that concern. And the
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proposal that we've come up with, which we've put to
Air Council and the other councils is local boards. Local
boards are the way to ensure that those local voices
have a say. And so how the difference between a
local board and a local and a community board. Is
a local boards legislated so it can't be changed by
a council, it has to go through a judicial review
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process to change. And they actually get their own budgets
so they actually can make decisions around what the spending
is in their local area. So that's really important and
I think, and I've thought about it a lot that
that's a really strong and abler for people in local
communities to make their own decisions and get stuff done.
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And I also think there'll be a benefit where a
dollar will go further in that model.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
What about historical debt levels. We all know the story
with Gored District Council and what's involved there. If it
becomes one unitary authority, how do we address that?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yeah, so look at if whatever the outcome of this process,
and let's say it is, you know, one regional unitary authority,
that council would need to decide whether the debt stays
with ring fenced within those council areas or it just
gets aggregated up and it's just considered as one. So
that look, that's a decision that that new council would
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have to take. There's benefit and probably just blending it.
You know, you get the economies of scale with it,
and it's probably an advantage for you know, the Gourd
district staying in west south and as opposed to perhaps
going with the east. Well, yeah, the eastern neighbors because
they're quite a high indebted council as well.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
As far as rates, that's a big one for a
lot of people too. I mean you're hearing here in
the Gourd district for example, for goodness sake, the counselor
is offering loans to people they can't afford to pay
rates that that shouldn't be the case. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
And look, affordability is really really important. So you know,
as Tom said, you know, doing it doing one outfit
doing it versus four outfits doing there has to be efficiencies, right,
and so what I believe will happen is that dollars
should go further, right, and so you should better keep
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rates increases, you know, at the lowest possible end, which
you know it's indicated sort of around that three or
four percent, which is the cost of inflation. Right, things
are always going to go up. People need wage increases,
things cost more pipes and all that sort of stuff,
or are always going up. So you've got to try
and keep those increases loll as possible. And so that's
where that efficiency piece comes into it. Doing it, doing
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it through one entity versus four entities should have efficiencies
and the and the numbers show, you know, the savings
of around that sort of nineteen million after you get
through the first four years.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, that's when I don't even be having to sort
that one out licensing trusts, what happens there. I mean,
if we're one council and they've still got ilt MLT operating,
but it's a one council of a model as such.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, look, that's that's probably quite a technical legal question
that you know, I'm not probably able to answer. But
what I will say is, look, those those entities have
delivered a huge amount of value to you know, not
only the Gore district, but equally then the Cargo area
and across in all of Southern's benefit. So we would
have to look at how we protect that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
In my view, Okay, I say this does get the
going here. Grant you've got the transition costs of moving
to one council and as well. Another thing regarding this
is whether the scale is generally going to improve the
infrastructure and bang for back and such for the region.
Would you agree? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah, Look that's the challenge and I think we have
to deliver it, and I think we've got to think
differently about how we deliver infrastructure. And so you know,
we was at a meeting last night with Infrastructure New
Zealand and one of the proposals they've put forward, as
you know, the same as we have a chief Science,
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chief of Science, you know, maybe we need a Chief
of water and a chief of infrastructure. So they are
specialists that are enabling good decisions to be made around it.
And so, you know, I think the key with delivering
any infrastructure project is you know, really strong project management,
strong governance across that and being really realistic and not
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trying to build goal platea where you don't need to.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
What chance we get the four councils on the same.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Page, I would hope we could get to that point.
If I was you're asking me to put a bed
on it, as the horses are lining up right at
the moment, I'd say that's probably unlikely.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
So what's the ramifications if that goes through like that?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
So, so the headstart process requires two councils to be
on the same page with the bids. So what you
possibly may get is, you know, one group, which would
be Southern District, putting a proposal forward and they may
be supported by the Gore District. Gore may swing in
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behind the one South in proposal for us, or we
may put in a non conforming bid which the government
said they will give consideration too, and you know, we
think that's really important, but it's council is still going
to make a decision because you know, this is all
about us designing our future. We don't want to be told,
(21:00):
you know, we don't want to be end up here
in two years time with commissioners saying this is what's
good for you Southern.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
That would be an absolute disaster. So we'll be given,
we're given the opportunity to put the destiny in it
in their own hands as such.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Absolutely, and I think you know what that's what help
you know, we're where why we see it's important to
put a proposal together. But as I say, Air Council's
got to vote on that next week. We we have
to get in the minds of the decision makers and
they need to understand what good looks like and great
looks like for South and and my view good only.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Grant, thanks your Tom, Thank you Grant Dermody and the
Cargo Deputy Mayor. Regarding council amalgamation. You're listening to the
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Click Beef lambendz dot com olive your Weatherburn joins us
in the Beef and Lambs slot for a Thursday. How
are you living? I'm good, Andy, How are you living?
The dream? Blue sky or quite a blue sky? But
it's warm, it's nice. Something might be brewing for a
day or so, but live on the present day. It's winter.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
You don't complain about the weather.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And winter, absolutely, but you can. It's a farming prerogative.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Well, exactly what we're going to complain about something. If
we're complaining about that, we're leaving someone else alone.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Well, we're not complaining about scholarships that are involved with
Beef and Lamb.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
No, everybody loves a scholarship. So yeah, it's part of
my role at Beef and Lamb. I lead our scholarships
and I am pleased to let everyone know that. In
twenty twenty seven, because our financial year is from the
first of October, so we will be offering up to
twenty six scholarships across the country. They will include everything
(22:47):
from tertiary right through to those to be able to
complete some professional development and also New Zealand rural leaders,
so lots of opportunities for farmers to be able to
take those steps they want to take.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You Met talked about it last week and the positives
that he's seen doing it and just getting out of
your comfort zone. It's a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
And it's also that network of people that can get
put around you. And I suppose the scholarships not just
the monetary value. It is the networks and the connections
and some of that development piece and package that we
put around it that people get a lot of value
out of as well.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Up take on these what's it.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Like, Yeah, really good uptakes. If I take the tertiary
scholarships for example, last year had over forty applications, so
there's definitely people out there. And that was we'd actually
lowered the monetary value on that right down. And that's
saying that, yeah, people want it for that connection piece.
But the Southern South Island have their local one out
at present, So if you're wanting to go and do
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something in your development, there is up to seven and
a half thousand dollars to target a training and development
opportunities with the Southern South Island Farmer council, and you
just need to be involved on a sheep and beef
farm aged between twenty one to thirty five and have
at least three to four years experience working on the
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sheep and beef sector and obviously demonstrate a commitment for
long term. Like all our scholarships, it's a long term investment.
What is your scholar what is why you getting a scholarship?
What are you going to give to the wider community
as well? So what can you give back from your learnings?
But they look open at the moment and they close
(24:28):
on the thirty first of August, so you've got a
month to get that in.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You said learnings. Learnings, Yes, some people, I'm frown upon
that word. Well you never to him from the leader.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
Well, it means he's listening and I'm keeping him on
his toes.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, very good. You did a podcast recently regarding triplets
and triplets seem to be the new singles, as in
there a bit of a problem. Yeah, they definitely are.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
We're hearing lots of scanning coming through and when you
first get a really good scanning result, it's like, yay, yes,
we're making things, and then that daunting fact comes over again. Oh,
how do I feed them?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
What do I do?
Speaker 8 (25:11):
What do I do?
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I have to change anything? And that's the questions that
are coming through. So what we did is we did
a podcast with David Stevens and who is years of
experience with.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Not David Stevens, a dear farmer from Belfa.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
Not David Stevens. No, yes, the different David Stevens. He
is from Bio the new ag research, the bioeconomy science.
I think they call themselves now b sign And so
we talked everything in regards with another farmer, in regards
to what you need to know around triplets, lemming and
(25:46):
actually preparing those you. So if you haven't heard that,
jump on the beef and lambs scene and heard podcast.
One instant conversation was there was the importance of protein
and actually adding protein into the diet for these guys.
There's also a webinar coming up next Thursday, the sixth
of August. Yeah, we're into August already. Is that you
(26:08):
can catch up with him in sum Accord who's been
doing some research. They've been in some on farm research
in this space as well. Must be very popular topic
because there's over one hundred and seventy farmers as farmers
registered as of now and we're still a week out.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
It's interesting the triplets all of a sudden have just
come to the real big focus.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Yeah, I think it's because they are so many of
them have appeared on the scanning sheets this year, and
you want to make sure that that is more than
a number that appears on the sheet at the end
of the day. That's not what you get paid for.
You get paid for the number that is at the
other end. So how do we actually ensure that once
they hit the ground, they actually do something with them.
(26:49):
It's that survival piece and we might winter hasn't arrived yet,
but we know when it usually does. So how what
are some of those things that we can put around
it to help limit those risks?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
So what else has been happening beef and land wise?
What's been going on?
Speaker 7 (27:03):
There's lots of stuff. I'm constantly just working on our
delivery workshops. So behind the scenes, my role is to
ensure that those workshops are fit for purpose for the
team to be able to deliver. So that's everything from
feed budgeting through to protecting your patch biosecurity. But one
exciting project I've been working on also is the virtual
reality headsets, which are getting out there and getting a
(27:26):
bit more traction.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
They're freaking, they are so freaking.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
A lot of farmers get vertigo from putting in.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
You do you put it on, you lose your spatial
awareness and you freak.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Yeah, but it's the most real, most the best way
to be put in a situation without having to be
put in the situation, and for some people that can't
actually get out and experience it, it is the most
real place to do it. So we've teamed out with
the Food and Fiber Cove last year or maybe two
years ago actually now, and we developed this module on
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cattle hand and it's in the yards and you're standing
on top of the rails and I know farmers have
said they've put it on. If they don't sit down,
they feel like they're going to fall off the rails
into the cattle yards. But it gives you a really
good awareness of even how cattle see you, how to
move in the yards. And the idea is that schools
will use it, cadet farms and the likes be able
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to actually show because you don't know what you don't
know if you haven't candled cattle before. It just gives
you some awareness before you put in a situation to
actually understand or that yeah no, actually that's right. Don't
stand there, and it might actually just prevent someone getting
crushed or kicked, which is where the most injuries are
coming from.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Just don't have a piece of al cathine in your
hand when you've got that headset on. That'll be my
advice on enclosed space. A few people got whacked. If
that was the case, absolutely girl. Thanks ending Olivia weatherburn
Out of beef and Land, New Zealand. Up next, Ala McCleary.
If you've got a problem with triplets and you need
a feeding solution this spring, Ala mcclearya, Donaldson's Dairy might
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have the thing just for you. He's up next. Welcome
back to the Muster. Alan McCleary of Sheerwew, New Zealand
joins us on this rather mild afternoon down here in
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the Deep South. Good afternoon, Alan, here you go, and mate,
you're right pretty good. Cindy Lauper, you you're a big fan.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I am. I am, Yeah, I know. I quite like
the idea of girls having fun as long as I'm
involved you know, singing and dancing.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I mean that, Joe.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I didn't mean that, Joe, it was it was I
was talking back in my single days.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Honestly, you're on fire already ten seconds in.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Sheer.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, how's it going.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, it's good, we're going really well. It's it's meant
to be a quiet month, but it's not. We're the
cattle tags and your new boss tags are flying out
the door sheep tags.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
We're actually you know.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
We're way out in front of where we've been any
other year, this time of the year. So you know,
it's great rays running around like a blue you know,
bottled fly in a bottle.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
So i'd say a headless chuck.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
Yeah, okay, we'll go aheadless chaluk. That sounds better than it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah. I was going to say something else, and I remember,
you know, I'm on the radio.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
No you can say it. It just doesn't it might
just not have universal approval.
Speaker 9 (30:26):
Well we won't go with that. We'll try and keep it,
you know.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
So where do we find you today?
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Well?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I was actually hidden middle March and Hide. But we've
been I've been pulling over all the time with phone
calls and orders and inquiries. So I've actually only got
as far as out from and I'm pretty sure I'm
not actually going to end up.
Speaker 9 (30:45):
And hide today. I can see that.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
So so do you know, all good? Just people inquiring
about the heat waves. They're getting pretty popular with you know,
lambs and beef schedules where they are people are and
the milk powder hasn't gone through the roof, so it's
a pretty good option to keep everything alive and solved.
So yeah, there's a few of them moving out the door.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, it's interesting that a lot of people talk about
the amount of triplets they're having this year and being
a curse. But the way that lamb's looking, the red
meat price still looking pretty buoyant. So if you are
going to hand raise stuff, well, the heat waves are
perfect solution now on well they.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Are, you know, they're so reasonably priced and they're so
straightforward to operate, like as long as you clean them
every day, there's very very few problems with them, and
the stock does so well on them. They're you know,
they're insides nice and warm, we feed when they want.
They're actually doing better than some of the some of
the livestock on mum, sir.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
It's a no brainer really.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
In it add live feed systems are the way to
go if you're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the days of going doing the
lambing beaten. You see a lamb and you think, well,
i'll have a look at him on the way back,
hoping the problem will be solved. We've got to get
past that, haven't we.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Well, at the moment when they're worth the money they are,
you're almost holding a seance when one passes.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Well, no, I haven't got that far yet, but oh yeah,
I'll keep it in mind. I'll give you a tingle
when I need one.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
All right. Hey, the speedy tag applicators tell us about those.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, yeah, well that was sort of a work in
motion that one. We were we were trying to sort
of fast track it. But anyway, never just we never
had a quite in that sweet spot. So we've we've
done that. We've done everything that we've We've opened the
jaws and we've made the jaws different so the tag
SIT's better and the cartridge is moving across a lot smoother.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
So we've got all that ironed out.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
So anybody that actually bought one earlier on that's not
one hundred percent give us a tingle and we'll see
you're right with a new one.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You're talking about fast tracks. The speedy tag is a
part of the fast track legislation.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You know, we'd move quicker than that made you need
to do with legislation. We're way out in front of that.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Well, it's a purpose, a fast treat. You go through
all the red tape and just bordauze and get stuff
done regardless. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
No, look, we we thought we were trying to just
sort of marry on to our other old one and
yeah it worked, but just just not not as well
as it should have done. So but we've done all that.
We've gone back to the drawing board. The guys have
sorted all the problems out and yeah, yeah, So if
(33:29):
you've got an old one and you're not overly happy
with it, just give me a yodel and we'll we'll
sort you out.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So, what events have you been to recently or anything
coming up before lambing?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Not really, I haven't been to any beef and lamb
things or that. I've just been I've just been cold calling,
to be fair. I've been down around Southland and through
the Catlands and yeah, and I've just been out having
a chat with everybody, and everybody seems to be reasonably happy,
and there's plenty of plenty of feed out there, and
it's yeah, everything's pretty boyant, really.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
It it is. And when you do your rounds you
hear of a lot of reps doing this. A lot
of people are graph because I heard it from one
of the South they work for the daily sheet as
to where they're going to get the best coffee in
the morning. Do you do that?
Speaker 9 (34:12):
No, no, no, I'm too busy. I don't stop and
have coffee. The boss is listening.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
No, no, no, no, I'm always always working, work, work.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Work, good to hear. Look, so the big news, the
big thing with you guys is it's busy. But you're
always wanted people to get in touch with your regarding
tag orders, regarding your kettle tags, sheep tags or whatever.
And yeah, like we say, the heat wave milk system
sent absolutely something to keep in mind when he gets busy.
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Yeah, definitely. And look just ring us. We're all up,
always up for a yarn. Ray on myself.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
We've got young being up in the North Island. He's
going to have her and tongs. So yeah, it's we're
easy to get ahold of and yeah, answer your questions,
take your orders.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
What did you like?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
But we are we're just growing. It's it's I can't
get my head around how I keep thinking that we're
going to slow down, but we're actually speeding up constantly.
It's it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
The word of Alan McCleary is spreading, only getting bigger
and wider in this country of ours. And if people
want to get in touch to keep you even busy, yeah,
how do they do it? Alan?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Just give me a ring on two seven two three
two double four, double eight. That's your best. That's your
best bet you'll get a hold of me here. Or
you can give Ray a ring on eight hundred and
seven triple nine eight nine.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
One thing I'll give you credit for over the years
as you finally remembered your phone number.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
I was a bit hesident there on that last one.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Mate, Hey, good only Allen, always good to catch up.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Enjoy the afternoon, right mate, Thanks Andy catches later.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Alan McCleary of sheer Our, New Zealand. This is the
muster before we wrap up our residents sporting gury Nathan
Burden a hit of stag Day Nathan Brandon is our residence.
(36:04):
Sporting Geruin joins us once again this afternoon, Good afternoon,
Nath Stagg day. It is just about it is just
about upon us.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Yeah, it's a big week, isn't it, leading into Stag
Week the MPC opener, and this one's just a little
bit more special than normal, being the two hundred and
fiftieth game between these two very proud rugby provinces.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Fourteen debut toms in the Southland starting team that or
that's in the reserves as well, that's got to be
close to a record, it must be.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Yeah. Yeah, I've charged Logan Savory actually with trying to
go back through the record books and trying to put
his finger on that. And if there's any man that
could do it, it'll be it'll be sad. But yeah, yeah,
I mean, I guess it speaks to sort of the
preseason that the Stags had number of injuries, a little
bit of unavailability, some of that very positive unavailability obviously,
(36:59):
but yeah, there's there's the opportunity for a number of
people to make themselves heroes on Saturday afternoon, and you know,
I am excited to see young Timmy Jimmy Taylor running
out in that number ten jersey for the for the Stags.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
That'll be really interesting to see how he goes because
you talk about pressure and expectation, it doesn't get any
bigger than playing a Tago first game up in the
season and number gaggle.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Yeah, on the face of it, you could say, you know,
this is a this is a massive test for a
guy that's only just turned nineteen. But even last year
when he was sort of in that in that last
year of high school and he and he signed with
with the Stags at that stage, the talk was that
this was a kid that was more than capable of
playing potentially first year out of school, and through a
(37:44):
number of circumstances, most recently but of a bit of
a thigh injury for Mika Muleine, they find themselves in
a situation where they've given the jersey to Jimmy and
hugely confident, hugely talented young guy just back from the
New Zealand twenties got called up there as an injury
replacement ironically for Meker. So yeah, I mean you were back.
(38:07):
I think hopefully if that that Ford pack, and it
is a decent Southern Ford pack too, hopefully that Ford
Pack can give him some front.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Football to work with, but a lot of injuries in
the back line. There's been the key factor from preseason.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Yeah, almost unknown to be honest, isn't it when you
look at that lineup. But there's there's enough. There's enough
in there. There's the great to see Michael Manson come
back after a bit of an injury cloud over him
next year. Is obviously a talented, you know, super rugby
quality half back. But when we look at I guess
(38:41):
the guys on the other side of the ball. This
is an a Targo team that was a runner up
in the in the NPC last year and very much
a settled side. Only only a handful of changes from
the lineup so that there'll be a heck of a challenge.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
So me see two, Tyler Lower getting the call up
to go with his mate Ethan Degress into the A.
I mean it sucks from a Stag's perspective, but from
a South and supporter suspective as well, somebody else putting
himself up in higher colors. It's great.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Yeah, just a I mean a great story all round.
A guy that was probably you know, really struggling to
find a rugby pathway, and he had a few key
people that that backed him. Matt Saunders was was a
key to that. But then when you talk to Matt,
he'll he'll save the likes of your Steve Mitchell's who
were the Rugby South and CE at the time, also
(39:31):
firmly in that camp. They took a punt and then
they really they really pushed him in terms of you know,
when one door wouldn't open, they headed up to Mawana Pacifica.
They put a wee bit of money out there to
ensure that he got an opportunity and then some MESI
grabbed it with both hands, you know, went played or played.
(39:52):
He was involved in the preseason with Mawana, was no
contact at that stage, but did enough through that period
and then then once he got that starting Jersey never
really let it up and some of the numbers that
he's produced in Super Rugby over the last couple of
seasons have have just been freekish and I guess the
likes of you know, Tana Umang has seen that close up.
Ardie Saby has seen that close up. So they will
(40:13):
have given Dave Any some pretty good reports and some
confidence taking another game on him.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Southand Sharks from the NBA. They got past the five
last night in the elimination final, but they made hard
work of it.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Yeah, I mean I think it was sixteen points at
one stage and you really thought so. I think the
season's over and it would have been a would have
been a disappointing way to finish, particularly with the you know,
a big, a big moment for Jill Bolga, the long
standing GM being recognized after the game. So great to
(40:48):
see the Sharks get back up and hope we're still alive.
They'll head up to the Rams and christ Church, a
team that you know they've beaten twice this season, including
a game up there in the in the new Stadium,
so you know they can get that job done. And
if results still go their way, we could still have
a home ground final at Ilt Stadium South and wouldn't
(41:10):
that be special?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Are they a realistic chance of winning the competition?
Speaker 6 (41:14):
I think the second half Sharks are definitely a team
capable of doing it. First half Sharks not so much.
And against the Kenneby Rams that they won that title
two years ago. They are a quality side, well coached.
Obviously playing at home, you know they will be tough
(41:35):
to beat. We can't afford to go into a sixteen
point hole early on against them. We need to start
well and then we need to kick on. So it's
as simple as that. But you know, once again they've
given themselves an opportunity and it's there for Jonathan Yim
and his and his players to take.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
This is from one of the more bizarre sporting stories
of the week. The Saltburn second eleven cracket team is
in disgrace one play. Yeah, they're knowing his name is
Brian Devine, but he's been nicknamed Clickie planting. He's sick,
he's at the slip, he's clicking his fingers when the
ball goes past the bad He got caught out the
other day. But the interesting thing around this is they're
looking back at scorecards. Whenever he didn't play, they didn't
(42:15):
have half the catchers at worket keeper they were having
because at some games they were getting seven catches, so
he wasn't playing the zany maybe one or two. But
this is certainly one of the more one of the
more bizarre situations, but cracket as well, or just sporting genial.
It shows that if you get caught out, you will
get caught out in a big way.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
Well, yeah, delightfully bizarre, to be honest, because I mean,
a why did he ever think about it? Why would you?
Why would you? And then be why would you even
think you could get away with it for a period
of time?
Speaker 5 (42:46):
You know.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
Cricket's just one of those games. I guess it's we do.
We sort of lean into the traditions of the game,
and there's that gentleman aspect to it that gets tested
at times, and this guy's obviously pushed it to the limit.
But it's just seem like such an unsustainable thing to do,
not even a moment of madness, things like thing, maybe
you got away with it in the first game and
(43:07):
just thought he'd see how how much longer he could
keep it going for. But yeah, it's going to lead
to plenty of memes and jokes and that sort of
thing over the next few days, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Well they've come out with a saltbur and Cricket Club
cheating a live and beer with me on this Click
Knight Marcus Trescoth click Clique Ponting Graham click Snapple dev
Mark Clickerlis click Marx snap, Russell Bleair Klickner, Martin Klecknel
and like like click my finger, it's twelve man stuff.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Sounds like a sounds like a handy lineup.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Mate, It does, doesn't it. But nonetheless like all the
best of sharks coming up against the Rams as well.
Antler's up for Saturday. Know it's always good to chat.
Speaker 8 (43:49):
Yeah, absolutely, Antle's up.
Speaker 10 (43:51):
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Speaker 1 (44:01):
As much as I love Chinese food, you'll never get
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Speaker 6 (44:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
That's us, over and done with. The podcast will be
up surely. I'm Andy Buller. The show's been brought to
you by Peterson. Ellis enjoyed this warmish afternoon in the South.
Catch you tomorrow. Hey, well all right too? Heab go there?
And what are he go on again? Dave Morrison and
PGG writes and present stock selling action that occurred at
the Charlton Saw ya this morning, Tall, you're good afternoon.
(44:30):
How do we fare afternoon?
Speaker 8 (44:32):
Andy? You're pretty pretty quiet morning this morning, Andy of
their smallest yeuting for the season to start the best
of the Lambs very very heavy names. They are not
four hundred dollars. And the rest of the Lambs and the
good million Ford lanes a sort of two forty two
sixty with the light of the prime names. Just to
run some of the early two hundreds. Like I said,
(44:54):
small yet in there no rams today into the section. Mason, Yeah,
Mathon was pretty good, but lucky small yard. In their
best they use to twenty to two forty milliums sort
of one eighty one eighty five, one ninety with the
light condition used store unders on hundred and forty hundred
and fifty dollars. Stall aims very small yelion the today
(45:15):
only only a half dozen pens. The best of them
are one seventy one twenty five millions of one fifty
in the light of the stall lands just start to
fade away. We went now sort of one thirty five
one forty and and that reps it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Up four hundred dollars. It would be a record for
a store for a Lamb at Charlton.
Speaker 8 (45:30):
A pretty good anybody. They were monsters. They were very
You wouldn't seen them anyiger make to be honest, but
they're very good, very good, very
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