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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Grant Disaster.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
McMaster joins us once again thanks to Batman and the
team at Harvey Rural, based here.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
In Gore Grant. Good afternoon, how's close?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Burn, Good afternoon, Andy, Good afternoon everybody. Yes, it's ten
degrees here at the moment, so things are looking still
looking pretty good. I hate to say that, but we
it would be nice to have a share of range.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I don't say that, No, no, I.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Know we're never happy, are you?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
But what's your mouths out?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You don't stand in the corner, But that would just
be nice to just madely get a few mushrooms. Let's
put it on. Yeah, so it's you know, we've still
got good fee health drawing out. But we're stock and
good and neck and you know it's really good. Just
a little a share now and again, just to keep
things going to be great. But as you say, you've
gotta be careful what you wish for, haven't.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You, Because not that long ago you were saying how
things are so done weird. But it's under seeing how
it can just change like that.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, well, you know, and it was wet, it was
record bloody season for rain, but and you know, continued
on into January with a bit of snow at times
on the tops. You know, not a great summer for
the for the people on holiday or campus or what
have you, but it's been great for farming. And said
it before, and I did think it's speaking of a neighbors,
it's probably the best summer we've had here for well
(01:25):
in my time. But you know, you're always asking this
little bit of rain now in the game, but it was,
you know, it was very wet, and that's what's kept
us in good Steed over this summer. And look, there's
steel paddocks that have you know, haven't got haven't got
away too much, have got nice clover in them, and
there's more green about the place in Brown. But it's
you know, that time of the year that you're just thinking, gosh,
(01:46):
I hope this carries on for a while, because you know,
may the ram goes out. It's still a few fair
way away. But you know that those mornings are drawing in,
and had had a frost last week and just a
bit cooler at times, but hot day and as they
kendigres now no wind. So let's at that'll keep going
and I think we'll have a good order.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So paint the picture.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
At the moment you were telling me before, it's a
bit of organized chaos there at closer and you're moving
us on the road. You had about a million camp
of beans behind you, and the kettle decided to get
out at the same time. I hope you've got road cones.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
No, I haven't, extra I just if I did, I'd
be running my own row road cones over because I
hate them that much. Now, just bringing us along the
road to another block this morning, and some cows come
through through another block which was good and by the gate,
and I thought, right, I'll just I'll just let those out,
and of course they did. After I put the US
in their block, the cows started coming through. But then
(02:41):
the US and the block the cows are coming through
decided to try to meet them, and I put the
block in and then a calf he shot back up
the hill at ninety mile and a half. So in resiart,
I'll just let all those us come into the next block,
which is on the road, and they can sort themselves
out from there, and I'll sort it out after after lunch.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Ending it sounds as though you're managing pretty well, then, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Well, there's been a lot of there's been a lot
of traffic on the road this summer, and I think
every camper van must be must be hired out because
they're just in and out the Moat Lake Road all
the time. And saying that I got a good run
around getting the sheep around around the lake. And and
to be fair, they all stopped when the sheep were
going through the gates, so mainly they stopped to take photos.
(03:23):
I think, so I know it's all it's all under control.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I think they want to go and see that management
style and closer in station. It's worldwide, it's well, it's
known worldwide.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's known worldwide. In my lunch box, that's about where
it stops.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Andy biodiversity disaster. You want to comment on it this afternoon?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I was speaking. I was speaking. I was reading
in the in the Farmer's Weekly last week about and
the headline was biodiversity chances flipping away and it's to
do with its federated Federated farmers are spear hitting a
campaign for the government based funding for the for the
q E two Trust to be lifted from four million
(04:01):
dollars a year. And that hasn't changed in a decade
they were asking for ten million. So you know, the
work we do with what people do with the QY
two Trust, it's you know, it's a great system. But
there's thousands of farmers of landowners who have voluntary placed this.
This is quite interesting. Two hundred thousand hectares of bush
and wet land under five thousand and three hundred and
(04:24):
eighty two covenants. And the articles say that's an area
equivalent size to three remaining National parks in the North Island.
So you know, there's there's a lot of land put
away into into the biodiversity for the q T Trust.
So and it basically works that, you know, the article
says that the protected bosh and wetlands are part of
farmer's brand, has committed series of the food and food producers.
(04:46):
So it goes on the satura. The study and the
why shadow and what two twenty and seventeen indicated that
for every dollar the Q two puts into covenants, the
land owner is investing seven dollars. So Q two puts
in half these thousands costs, hence and surveying in some
legal work, the landowners doing the other half and necessary
having to see someone else involved. So you know seven,
(05:08):
you know, we're putting in in a lot of money
as farmers and just asking to get a bit more
money from you know, the four million dollars to ten million.
So but q E two worn last year, even with
the lifeline signed to it by the government in the
form of an extra one point five million which they've
got for the next three years, they would have to
(05:29):
cut back and signing up new covenants, which is a
shame because from a total of one hundred and seventy
covenants settled in twenty twenty four, twenty five of the
target current is now only thirty five a year. So
the old thing, you know, where the q E two
trust to guess is what I'm saying is, you know,
it's been a great thing for biodiversity. It's it's just
what farmers do to protect their land. I don't think
(05:51):
you know a lot of people are really well aware
of what's involved, and you know at the end of
the day that it's the farming families that are putting
the money in money. We just need a bit more money,
like we need for wilden pines, like we need to
schools and hospitals and every other Boddy thing, But it's
just an I think it's a really interesting article that
you know, they again good to read it and the
(06:12):
Farmers Weekly, but that needs to be on the news
and in papers that our urban folk read, so we
you know, we needed to carry on for the benefit
of the country and for us as farmers.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Just on that as well. You bring up a really
relevant point regarding urban versus rural. What does that divide it?
Does it occur in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, I was pretty aware of it. I thought it
did you know, under the last government, I thought it
was you know, it was it was pretty poor at times,
and that was certainly my opinion. I think this last
government that you know, I think things of things have
been has been better for us farming as far as
you know, rules and regulations and compliance, and I mean
it's still there and then people agree, you know, a
(06:55):
lot of it does need to be there. But I
honestly don't think that the and you take wild and
pines for an example, you know, covering twenty two percent
of the country and increasing. I don't think the average
person on the street actually knows what, you know, what
detriment they are to our country. And I think the
(07:16):
same with the q E two and all the interesting
things that we take for granted and are passionate about
and that are making a difference. I don't feel that.
I don't think that's betrayed to a lot of the
public in our country.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Dog trial results, you haven't got your PaperWorks, your barista Shore.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
We gave a great round up next week. What's happening
this weekend?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Grant?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, no results. Yes, she was waiting for some from
from Oneton the other day. But coming up this weekend.
The Center chap on the nineteenth and twentieth is the
Center attempts at Mount Linton and Mount Linton. Normally they
have their trials in November and they're sort of not
forgotten about, but it's not sort of in the headlines.
So the Center Champs are there. Gore's the twenty first
and the twenty second in a targo to a p
(08:00):
the West is this Saturday, twenty first, and that they've
got new grounds down there at Tapeka, and that's followed
by Wayehuna on Sunday and Monday of this weekend. It's
their senary centenary trial, and congratulations to them. And I've
been fortunate enough I'm going down to judge that along
head for them, so looking forward to that. So that's
what's coming up. And a final note because of the way,
(08:22):
because of on the very important job of judging at
and I can't make me I'll mate Murray fits given
seventieth birthday, and I like to say Murray's upset, but
I don't know he is really, but well, don't touch
twenty seventy. The venue was going to be in a
telephone boxing in the cargo, but as boys that fits
given lads well known around in Icago, they've now stope
invited as you friends make up the numbers and I
(08:44):
here it's now going to be maybe on a bus
going around Riverton. So if you want to takets disc
of dirty water ring and your public such, you'll have
some for sale. So congratulations Murray on is Vidien.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, heavy birthday coming up, Murray, get on your God,
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And for the love of God's those dogs sparking in
the background.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, I've got I'm looking after a couple of mel
mate carry Channick who's not too too good at the moment,
So thoughts go out to carry. So I've got a
couple of new boys in the in the in the back.
At the moment, it's just a settling in period, a
bit like the first day of high school.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Andy, Yeah, fair enough ground. I always appreciate your time
to it next.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Week, Okay, grab McMaster A close friend station thanks to
Batman and the team at Abury Rural.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Jason. Here it's sat next from South Confederated Farmers.
Grant Disaster.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
McMaster joins us once again thanks to Batman and the
team at Harvey Rural, based here.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
In Gore Grant. Good afternoon, how's close?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Burn, Good afternoon, Andy, Good afternoon everybody. Yes, it's ten
degrees here at the moment, so things are looking still
looking pretty good. I hate to say that, but we
it would be nice to have a share of range.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I don't say that, No, no, I.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Know we're never happy, are you?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
But what's your mouths out?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You don't stand in the corner, But that would just
be nice to just madely get a few mushrooms. Let's
put it on. Yeah, so it's you know, we've still
got good fee health drawing out. But we're stock and
good and neck and you know it's really good. Just
a little a share now and again, just to keep
things going to be great. But as you say, you've
gotta be careful what you wish for, haven't.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You, Because not that long ago you were saying how
things are so done weird. But it's under seeing how
it can just change like that.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, well, you know, and it was wet, it was
record bloody season for rain, but and you know, continued
on into January with a bit of snow at times
on the tops. You know, not a great summer for
the for the people on holiday or campus or what
have you, but it's been great for farming. And said
it before, and I did think it's speaking of a neighbors,
it's probably the best summer we've had here for well
(01:25):
in my time. But you know, you're always asking this
little bit of rain now in the game, but it was,
you know, it was very wet, and that's what's kept
us in good Steed over this summer. And look, there's
steel paddocks that have you know, haven't got haven't got
away too much, have got nice clover in them, and
there's more green about the place in Brown. But it's
you know, that time of the year that you're just thinking, gosh,
(01:46):
I hope this carries on for a while, because you know,
may the ram goes out. It's still a few fair
way away. But you know that those mornings are drawing in,
and had had a frost last week and just a
bit cooler at times, but hot day and as they
kendigres now no wind. So let's at that'll keep going
and I think we'll have a good order.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So paint the picture.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
At the moment you were telling me before, it's a
bit of organized chaos there at closer and you're moving
us on the road. You had about a million camp
of beans behind you, and the kettle decided to get
out at the same time. I hope you've got road cones.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
No, I haven't, extra I just if I did, I'd
be running my own row road cones over because I
hate them that much. Now, just bringing us along the
road to another block this morning, and some cows come
through through another block which was good and by the gate,
and I thought, right, I'll just I'll just let those out,
and of course they did. After I put the US
in their block, the cows started coming through. But then
(02:41):
the US and the block the cows are coming through
decided to try to meet them, and I put the
block in and then a calf he shot back up
the hill at ninety mile and a half. So in resiart,
I'll just let all those us come into the next block,
which is on the road, and they can sort themselves
out from there, and I'll sort it out after after lunch.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Ending it sounds as though you're managing pretty well, then, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Well, there's been a lot of there's been a lot
of traffic on the road this summer, and I think
every camper van must be must be hired out because
they're just in and out the Moat Lake Road all
the time. And saying that I got a good run
around getting the sheep around around the lake. And and
to be fair, they all stopped when the sheep were
going through the gates, so mainly they stopped to take photos.
(03:23):
I think, so I know it's all it's all under control.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I think they want to go and see that management
style and closer in station. It's worldwide, it's well, it's
known worldwide.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's known worldwide. In my lunch box, that's about where
it stops.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Andy biodiversity disaster. You want to comment on it this afternoon?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I was speaking. I was speaking. I was reading
in the in the Farmer's Weekly last week about and
the headline was biodiversity chances flipping away and it's to
do with its federated Federated farmers are spear hitting a
campaign for the government based funding for the for the
q E two Trust to be lifted from four million
(04:01):
dollars a year. And that hasn't changed in a decade
they were asking for ten million. So you know, the
work we do with what people do with the QY
two Trust, it's you know, it's a great system. But
there's thousands of farmers of landowners who have voluntary placed this.
This is quite interesting. Two hundred thousand hectares of bush
and wet land under five thousand and three hundred and
(04:24):
eighty two covenants. And the articles say that's an area
equivalent size to three remaining National parks in the North Island.
So you know, there's there's a lot of land put
away into into the biodiversity for the q T Trust.
So and it basically works that, you know, the article
says that the protected bosh and wetlands are part of
farmer's brand, has committed series of the food and food producers.
(04:46):
So it goes on the satura. The study and the
why shadow and what two twenty and seventeen indicated that
for every dollar the Q two puts into covenants, the
land owner is investing seven dollars. So Q two puts
in half these thousands costs, hence and surveying in some
legal work, the landowners doing the other half and necessary
having to see someone else involved. So you know seven,
(05:08):
you know, we're putting in in a lot of money
as farmers and just asking to get a bit more
money from you know, the four million dollars to ten million.
So but q E two worn last year, even with
the lifeline signed to it by the government in the
form of an extra one point five million which they've
got for the next three years, they would have to
(05:29):
cut back and signing up new covenants, which is a
shame because from a total of one hundred and seventy
covenants settled in twenty twenty four, twenty five of the
target current is now only thirty five a year. So
the old thing, you know, where the q E two
trust to guess is what I'm saying is, you know,
it's been a great thing for biodiversity. It's it's just
what farmers do to protect their land. I don't think
(05:51):
you know a lot of people are really well aware
of what's involved, and you know at the end of
the day that it's the farming families that are putting
the money in money. We just need a bit more money,
like we need for wilden pines, like we need to
schools and hospitals and every other Boddy thing, But it's
just an I think it's a really interesting article that
you know, they again good to read it and the
(06:12):
Farmers Weekly, but that needs to be on the news
and in papers that our urban folk read, so we
you know, we needed to carry on for the benefit
of the country and for us as farmers.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Just on that as well. You bring up a really
relevant point regarding urban versus rural. What does that divide it?
Does it occur in your opinion?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, I was pretty aware of it. I thought it
did you know, under the last government, I thought it
was you know, it was it was pretty poor at times,
and that was certainly my opinion. I think this last
government that you know, I think things of things have
been has been better for us farming as far as
you know, rules and regulations and compliance, and I mean
it's still there and then people agree, you know, a
(06:55):
lot of it does need to be there. But I
honestly don't think that the and you take wild and
pines for an example, you know, covering twenty two percent
of the country and increasing. I don't think the average
person on the street actually knows what, you know, what
detriment they are to our country. And I think the
(07:16):
same with the q E two and all the interesting
things that we take for granted and are passionate about
and that are making a difference. I don't feel that.
I don't think that's betrayed to a lot of the
public in our country.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Dog trial results, you haven't got your PaperWorks, your barista Shore.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
We gave a great round up next week. What's happening
this weekend?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Grant?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, no results. Yes, she was waiting for some from
from Oneton the other day. But coming up this weekend.
The Center chap on the nineteenth and twentieth is the
Center attempts at Mount Linton and Mount Linton. Normally they
have their trials in November and they're sort of not
forgotten about, but it's not sort of in the headlines.
So the Center Champs are there. Gore's the twenty first
and the twenty second in a targo to a p
(08:00):
the West is this Saturday, twenty first, and that they've
got new grounds down there at Tapeka, and that's followed
by Wayehuna on Sunday and Monday of this weekend. It's
their senary centenary trial, and congratulations to them. And I've
been fortunate enough I'm going down to judge that along
head for them, so looking forward to that. So that's
what's coming up. And a final note because of the way,
(08:22):
because of on the very important job of judging at
and I can't make me I'll mate Murray fits given
seventieth birthday, and I like to say Murray's upset, but
I don't know he is really, but well, don't touch
twenty seventy. The venue was going to be in a
telephone boxing in the cargo, but as boys that fits
given lads well known around in Icago, they've now stope
invited as you friends make up the numbers and I
(08:44):
here it's now going to be maybe on a bus
going around Riverton. So if you want to takets disc
of dirty water ring and your public such, you'll have
some for sale. So congratulations Murray on is Vidien.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, heavy birthday coming up, Murray, get on your God,
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And for the love of God's those dogs sparking in
the background.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, I've got I'm looking after a couple of mel
mate carry Channick who's not too too good at the moment,
So thoughts go out to carry. So I've got a
couple of new boys in the in the in the back.
At the moment, it's just a settling in period, a
bit like the first day of high school.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Andy, Yeah, fair enough ground. I always appreciate your time
to it next.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Week, Okay, grab McMaster A close friend station thanks to
Batman and the team at Abury Rural.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Jason. Here it's sat next from South Confederated Farmers.
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