January 11, 2026 • 9 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
John Pemberton of Menzies Fairy joins us in the Sergeant
Dan Farming round up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan stock foods
here in good John. Good afternoon, and welcome to twenty
twenty six on the Mustard.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, I hope you had a good New year, Andy,
it was a good new year.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Spent it up in tiann Now the weather was sometimes
a bit schizophrenic, but there were a few warmer days
and a few cooler days, but certainly this morning for
the latter.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, but hey, if it's bringing moisture, will take. It
was desperately needed to rain then down in south and
by the locks, and everybody's quite pleased to see it.
But you know, geez ad sense like targo, like a
can of getting their drink of water. Actually it seems
to be when never see I think gainst ten Mills.
The rest of the country is giving something to twenty
been inicing season, that's for sure. But yeah, grass growth
(00:56):
is picking up and we're feed near the febit oft
the moment. We shall open sized stick on Christmas Day,
thinking ten days we'll close it after the accumulation of
close to sixty mils over that week leading up for Christmas.
But it's sort of just greened the plate up and
we only really started growing, you know, really started growing
grass the last three days.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
With the follow up, brain, is it a common occurrence
for you to be feeding out at this time of year?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, it can be a yep, yep. You know you're
always you get the Christmas is always a dry period
leading up to Christmas. We ever made hay, it's always
been normally able to get a December, to be honest,
if you're knock around doing that, So Jerry camy a
wit month normally, can't it? So yep, back having to
(01:41):
feed out in December's pretty normal South So.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Milk flowing the likes, has it been affected?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Milk's not too bad. Look, we took a wee bit
of a check around that cold front that it came
through after the storm that took all the trees out
and cut pair back in October November. That that cold
week sort of just the cares of cranking really well,
and just ever since that week sort of they just
(02:11):
sort of stepped off down to what they were sort
of doing the previous year. So but our milk flowers,
you know, not complaining, they're still taking away pretty well.
So yeah, things are tread along reasonably to plan interesting
getting in calves, that's the main thing.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
And a pleasant surprise last week with the GDT backing
the trend. I think of what the previous eight auctions
were a six point three percent rise. Whole milk powder
are going up seven point two percent.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, look, doom and gloom talk from the travels last
twelve months. I've seen so many other avenues that for deering,
other than just running, just keep reducing until until it
becomes a problem of seeing subsidies been lifted in the
UK is in Europe we're seeing beef as an alternative.
(02:58):
So files a year where saw European farmer, I'd be
thinking twice about putting replacement he a semen into my
cares when you get one thousand dollars US for for
dald angus cross calf. So my I was sort of
always an opinion that the overseas are yet quicker than
New Zealand A because our dollars pretecting us. We do
(03:19):
plan a different market. We're not fresh milk. We are
quite a different market. You know, I haven't quite had
the answer in relation to a Fontier is a big
shift to the ingredients market like open country plays and
what does it now mean for New Zealand around when
the world is too much fresh milk sloshing around? What
is it? Does that fit? We's a pinch point and
so in the cost of production, you know, the cost
(03:43):
of productions competing New Zealand, it's been climbing overseas recently.
Obvious said three years ago New Zealand was an expensive
place to make milk. But looking at what's happening now
and the constraints around resources, like we struggle with New
Zealand around labor and such like, it's no different overseas
and they having to write it big checks and stuff
to work on farms. So nobody wants to handle chicken shit,
(04:05):
big shirt or care ship these days as an employee.
They want to drive track to the GPS. Saw that
in every single place I went to. So no, I
think opportunities for young people to get into deering globally
are still there because it's just people people willing to
work in that space. So no, I'm not surprised to
see it left. We'll we'll, we'll see what happens with
(04:26):
the Yeah, I guess from now one it's going to
be a bit of a decider, but having a dip
before Christmas is probably to benefit of the thoughts and
signals to the market straight away that there's too much milk.
So hopefully in the spring we don't see a big tap.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Turning on the normal hempsteare interesting that talk about the
fecal terminology there, john O, But what are you referring
to in general regard to young people in technology. They're
just not prepared to roll their hand their sleeves up
as in previous generations.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Perhaps is it that or is it just a societies
are so comfortable these days that when they started doing
a tough there's still some luxuries in their lives. And
you know, I'm not saying that's just for young people,
as even the owners the businesses aren't willing to adjust that.
I don't think there's been enough pain go through to
(05:16):
make people really assess what they're trying to where they're
heading for their business, to be honest. You know, you
see grain growers still buying machinery, and Jesu, that whole
machinery discussion is just blowing up in the last twenty
four months. It just keeps climbing the price of replacing
gear and price of inputs. And you know, when I
(05:39):
look at a lot of these grain outfits overseas, I
just don't understand why they're integrating poultry or walk into
their system and having more circular system on farm and
protein is only going to head one way again, is
my belief. The year n and such like are realizing
that animals are required for food security for the world
(06:00):
because they are batteries. As far as they can crank production,
you can store it your great crops, you've got to
have it off at a certain point, you know, much
shorter shelf life and such like, so as far as
you know in the paddock. So I just think I
don't think it's just about young people. I think it's
about NAG sector in general.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Based on that your years enough fields scholar has been
in gone. What's the biggest takeaways we'll get, what's the
biggest things you've learned from a keepy perspective. I suppose.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think New Zealand is no difference anywhere else in
the world. I think I guess where I'm at at
the moment. I think he's on eggs a little bit
like the all Blacks, we've gone overseas, we've shown anyone
else how to do it, and probably not just making
sure we're keeping going forward ourselves and some of that development.
And now we've got other countries that certainly can challenge
(06:57):
us around efficiencies and performance. I think New Zealand's sort
of got to bring back a bit more of the
underdog attitude rather than the look at us where the
best that's us saying to be the vehtoric coming out
of central government and the farming sector, which I don't
think the does anyone any favors around challenging having constructive
(07:21):
discussions to improve it for the next generation. I think
that's probably the biggest piece we're missing, and that's Yeah,
I guess you could probably correlate a lot to what's
happening with all Black's last four or five years. And yeah,
I think we just need to be a bit more
focused on outcomes and not doubling up resources. We can't
(07:43):
afford what the EU can, so what would we do
will be smart? And I just wonder if we need
more cohesiveness around funding for science and research to be
more than one place run and scattered across different sectors.
And then politics being how to leverage off that. I
just think we need to forchep me off. Think my
(08:03):
Knufield's going to have me looking more at how do
we have more focus on outcomes and reacting at the
speed we need to to meet markets, the environment and
let the science decide how that operates rather than the politics.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Designing just quickly to wrap up National Lamb Day happening
Southern Field Days at way mom next February or next month,
I should say, so that's coming around quickly?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, it is this year more organized. We've got FMG
and rather Bank back on board supporting us, which is
fantastic to have this relationship building around funding because it's
allowing us to be far more organized each year. This
is a bit of a repeat of last year, bit
of a rinse and repeat thing that last year was
on a Saturday, the fifteenth of February. This year it's
(08:47):
on a Sunday, Southern Field Days once again helping promote
the day, which is fantastics on the Friday thirteenth. As
long as that celebration is happening and that's what's been
consumed on the day, I think it's a real mix
excuse for the lamed eye. I can carry that much
broader message for the holding. Is you on to celebrate
(09:08):
good only John leave it.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
They always appreciate your time. Thanks Andy, John Pimbledon of
Meansi's Fury and the Sergeant N Farming ground up please
are Sergeant an Stock Foods based here and Gore Jeef
grand Is up next. This is the Master Darling
John Pemberton of Menzies Fairy joins us in the Sergeant
Dan Farming round up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan stock foods
here in good John. Good afternoon, and welcome to twenty
twenty six on the Mustard.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, I hope you had a good New year, Andy,
it was a good new year.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Spent it up in tiann Now the weather was sometimes
a bit schizophrenic, but there were a few warmer days
and a few cooler days, but certainly this morning for
the latter.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, but hey, if it's bringing moisture, will take. It
was desperately needed to rain then down in south and
by the locks, and everybody's quite pleased to see it.
But you know, geez ad sense like targo, like a
can of getting their drink of water. Actually it seems
to be when never see I think gainst ten Mills.
The rest of the country is giving something to twenty
been inicing season, that's for sure. But yeah, grass growth
(00:56):
is picking up and we're feed near the febit oft
the moment. We shall open sized stick on Christmas Day,
thinking ten days we'll close it after the accumulation of
close to sixty mils over that week leading up for Christmas.
But it's sort of just greened the plate up and
we only really started growing, you know, really started growing
grass the last three days.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
With the follow up, brain, is it a common occurrence
for you to be feeding out at this time of year?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, it can be a yep, yep. You know you're
always you get the Christmas is always a dry period
leading up to Christmas. We ever made hay, it's always
been normally able to get a December, to be honest,
if you're knock around doing that, So Jerry camy a
wit month normally, can't it? So yep, back having to
(01:41):
feed out in December's pretty normal South So.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Milk flowing the likes, has it been affected?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Milk's not too bad. Look, we took a wee bit
of a check around that cold front that it came
through after the storm that took all the trees out
and cut pair back in October November. That that cold
week sort of just the cares of cranking really well,
and just ever since that week sort of they just
(02:11):
sort of stepped off down to what they were sort
of doing the previous year. So but our milk flowers,
you know, not complaining, they're still taking away pretty well.
So yeah, things are tread along reasonably to plan interesting
getting in calves, that's the main thing.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
And a pleasant surprise last week with the GDT backing
the trend. I think of what the previous eight auctions
were a six point three percent rise. Whole milk powder
are going up seven point two percent.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, look, doom and gloom talk from the travels last
twelve months. I've seen so many other avenues that for deering,
other than just running, just keep reducing until until it
becomes a problem of seeing subsidies been lifted in the
UK is in Europe we're seeing beef as an alternative.
(02:58):
So files a year where saw European farmer, I'd be
thinking twice about putting replacement he a semen into my
cares when you get one thousand dollars US for for
dald angus cross calf. So my I was sort of
always an opinion that the overseas are yet quicker than
New Zealand A because our dollars pretecting us. We do
(03:19):
plan a different market. We're not fresh milk. We are
quite a different market. You know, I haven't quite had
the answer in relation to a Fontier is a big
shift to the ingredients market like open country plays and
what does it now mean for New Zealand around when
the world is too much fresh milk sloshing around? What
is it? Does that fit? We's a pinch point and
so in the cost of production, you know, the cost
(03:43):
of productions competing New Zealand, it's been climbing overseas recently.
Obvious said three years ago New Zealand was an expensive
place to make milk. But looking at what's happening now
and the constraints around resources, like we struggle with New
Zealand around labor and such like, it's no different overseas
and they having to write it big checks and stuff
to work on farms. So nobody wants to handle chicken shit,
(04:05):
big shirt or care ship these days as an employee.
They want to drive track to the GPS. Saw that
in every single place I went to. So no, I
think opportunities for young people to get into deering globally
are still there because it's just people people willing to
work in that space. So no, I'm not surprised to
see it left. We'll we'll, we'll see what happens with
(04:26):
the Yeah, I guess from now one it's going to
be a bit of a decider, but having a dip
before Christmas is probably to benefit of the thoughts and
signals to the market straight away that there's too much milk.
So hopefully in the spring we don't see a big tap.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Turning on the normal hempsteare interesting that talk about the
fecal terminology there, john O, But what are you referring
to in general regard to young people in technology. They're
just not prepared to roll their hand their sleeves up
as in previous generations.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Perhaps is it that or is it just a societies
are so comfortable these days that when they started doing
a tough there's still some luxuries in their lives. And
you know, I'm not saying that's just for young people,
as even the owners the businesses aren't willing to adjust that.
I don't think there's been enough pain go through to
(05:16):
make people really assess what they're trying to where they're
heading for their business, to be honest. You know, you
see grain growers still buying machinery, and Jesu, that whole
machinery discussion is just blowing up in the last twenty
four months. It just keeps climbing the price of replacing
gear and price of inputs. And you know, when I
(05:39):
look at a lot of these grain outfits overseas, I
just don't understand why they're integrating poultry or walk into
their system and having more circular system on farm and
protein is only going to head one way again, is
my belief. The year n and such like are realizing
that animals are required for food security for the world
(06:00):
because they are batteries. As far as they can crank production,
you can store it your great crops, you've got to
have it off at a certain point, you know, much
shorter shelf life and such like, so as far as
you know in the paddock. So I just think I
don't think it's just about young people. I think it's
about NAG sector in general.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Based on that your years enough fields scholar has been
in gone. What's the biggest takeaways we'll get, what's the
biggest things you've learned from a keepy perspective. I suppose.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think New Zealand is no difference anywhere else in
the world. I think I guess where I'm at at
the moment. I think he's on eggs a little bit
like the all Blacks, we've gone overseas, we've shown anyone
else how to do it, and probably not just making
sure we're keeping going forward ourselves and some of that development.
And now we've got other countries that certainly can challenge
(06:57):
us around efficiencies and performance. I think New Zealand's sort
of got to bring back a bit more of the
underdog attitude rather than the look at us where the
best that's us saying to be the vehtoric coming out
of central government and the farming sector, which I don't
think the does anyone any favors around challenging having constructive
(07:21):
discussions to improve it for the next generation. I think
that's probably the biggest piece we're missing, and that's Yeah,
I guess you could probably correlate a lot to what's
happening with all Black's last four or five years. And yeah,
I think we just need to be a bit more
focused on outcomes and not doubling up resources. We can't
(07:43):
afford what the EU can, so what would we do
will be smart? And I just wonder if we need
more cohesiveness around funding for science and research to be
more than one place run and scattered across different sectors.
And then politics being how to leverage off that. I
just think we need to forchep me off. Think my
(08:03):
Knufield's going to have me looking more at how do
we have more focus on outcomes and reacting at the
speed we need to to meet markets, the environment and
let the science decide how that operates rather than the politics.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Designing just quickly to wrap up National Lamb Day happening
Southern Field Days at way mom next February or next month,
I should say, so that's coming around quickly?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, it is this year more organized. We've got FMG
and rather Bank back on board supporting us, which is
fantastic to have this relationship building around funding because it's
allowing us to be far more organized each year. This
is a bit of a repeat of last year, bit
of a rinse and repeat thing that last year was
on a Saturday, the fifteenth of February. This year it's
(08:47):
on a Sunday, Southern Field Days once again helping promote
the day, which is fantastics on the Friday thirteenth. As
long as that celebration is happening and that's what's been
consumed on the day, I think it's a real mix
excuse for the lamed eye. I can carry that much
broader message for the holding. Is you on to celebrate
(09:08):
good only John leave it.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
They always appreciate your time. Thanks Andy, John Pimbledon of
Meansi's Fury and the Sergeant N Farming ground up please
are Sergeant an Stock Foods based here and Gore Jeef
grand Is up next. This is the Master Darling
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