May 17, 2026 • 8 mins
Jon Pemberton reflects on a busy May on his farm which has seen a few changes take place.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Shock.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It means he's fairy and soon to be brighter.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Will we catch up with John Pemberton and then Satan
dan Farming ground up, thanks of course to Sergeant Dan
Stock Foods based here in good John. Good afternoon, a
bit of blue sky about finally.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, it's been been a pretty pretty good week to
be fair, apart from a bit of fog. It's you know,
sort of about nine o'clock at night, you expecting a
frost to roll in in the early years, and you
get up and there's a slight northerly breeze. So I
was sort of winning at the Moment's great because.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You're pretty busy there. You've got a bit going on.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, I go my enough of reporting. So that's one
last thing to do, which is quite good forgot that
in a month ago. So that's that's ticked off a year. Look,
we're just transitioning between the two farms, out of one
expanding the other one finishing off. The Kio shed just
moved last week. We just under lost old block locally
at bright now, which is quite good. So yeah, given
(01:04):
another month, hopefully things will be settled down.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So when do you look at dry Off?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Oh we did. We did ninety lot cares this morning
they've gone off to grazing, and then we get through
all the sale cares out of the least property in
the last sort of ten days week of May, and
then into June we start and we start going through
the the what's the rest of the remainder of the
herd gets right off. So yeah, just just sort of
(01:32):
not trying to jam too much into one week really
sort of the plan at the stage.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
How would you rate the season out of ten?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Pretty good? I think I think we got to the
November I would have told you it was pretty rubbish
because actually this November been was actually worse than the
previous one that we didn't have any floods. Now for
us not to have a flood has been since twenty twenty,
they've been pretty damn regular and not one this year.
We can the stress the management of having to deal
(02:03):
with that and not having that it has been fantastic.
So yeah, she's certainly up the other season it's been.
There has been a great season. Were just opened our
side stick on the the week en after the week
after duck shooting, so for us, it's that's pretty late
to be opening a side stick for in May for
the autumn. So yeah, no real complaints. To be fair,
(02:26):
it's been a goodie.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, let's be honest, you're opening the silence stack that
at the same time people are putting silas into the stack.
It seems we've been done later and later.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah. Yeah, well look, I think March April was better
than February, and Mark's better than January, so we're the wise.
So it does feel like then in the canny that
are still doing silid and I've been pushing into May
for a number of years now silad. So it does
feel like the seasons are altering, but it feels like
everything's a bit about a month later than what it
(02:59):
used to be. You know, springs are turning up pretty late,
pretty tough Novembers. Yeah, so it does sort of behave
your sort of thinking, how do you plan the season
going forward?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Now enough field report has been released and feedback has
been pretty positive.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yep, yeah, no, it's good God conversations over it. And
I don't make any apologies for steering the steering, the
washtonest on it. The whole point of enough in order
to challenge people's thinking and try and look for solutions,
so I think I've delivered on that. So yeah, we'll see.
We've got the biennial enough your conference happening in November
(03:37):
down and number cargo, so there will be where we
used delivery of reports of the forore enough fielders, so
there will sort of be a bit of a platform
for it should be good.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Well, I suppose when you look on twelve months from
where you were and is there anything you would have
done differently you think regarding your travels.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I got pretty lucky. Apart from those winds turning out
when I was over in Europe, evening has pretty pretty
smoothly and you look at you know, what's helping the
world now. It might have been a bit more challenging.
So no, I got pretty lucky with everything we sort
of ticked off. Yeah, you could. You could travel for
(04:19):
a lot, and certainly when I came home a number
of times, it could have quite easily just carried on
because you're just getting into more and more interesting people,
right and projects that were happening overseas. So yeah, could
have could have done a lot more, but I think
it certainly got enough done to take the boxes, that's
for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You'd encourage people to get involved enough for your scholarship
scheme as such.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, absolutely, the rural leadership, these rule leaders there's a
Kellogg program and obviously enough Field and also another program
I speak. I think very highly of as Barely Change,
which is a very limited number each year that any
one can apply. There is reasonable fee attached to it,
but it's the value get out. It's fantastic when you
(05:04):
go through the north Land and look at the start
to finish of each supply chain of horticulture, red meat
and dairy in New Zealand, and it's not so much
around understanding the complex detail of it, but more is
getting hit around the how and why and what when
(05:25):
you go to another country, understanding why they operate the
way they do. I think it just gives you a
really good at training for an ability of a lot
of especially doing enough that when you're gain to countries
to do reports sort of get you in the right
frame of mind to how the analyze things, to sort
of cut through a lot of the noise to get
to the crux of what they're doing pretty quickly, so
(05:46):
that the y change on the Northard I think is
really valuable.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Your report was based on reputation versus reality in New
Zealand searching for a North Star all about New Zealand's
fresh water crisis not being so sort of technology problem wise,
but an institutional one. So certainly, like you say, stirring
up a few wasp nests regarding a conversation, Yeah, I think,
(06:11):
and I.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Think he's read that conversation. We've got governments at ying
ying all over the show, and it's comes at quite
a cost to industry and environment, and I think we
just need to find a pathway where, especially with the
raw sector, if we can be far more cohesive around
where we're heading what we're trying to achieve, we could
(06:33):
certainly have make improvements in the environment of not having
costly swings at local in central government and the ever
imputt and how that locks and also how does a
sector work with the science have provided. So Yeah, I
think there's a lot of food for thought that that's
for sure. And Yeah, and you're really just sort of
getting into the conversation that we're actually hosting a field
(06:56):
down their property at Brighton on the nineteenth of June
during Z's partner up with this, and part of that
day is sort of looking at how do we integrate
or do the extinction through the science that we're working
with in New Zealand when it comes to farm systems.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
If people one of you your report, John, can they
find it online?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, just go to the Rule Leaders website and they'll
take you to all the all the Nuffield scholarship papers
that have been written in reports, you know, right back
to the to the fifties, so all that information is there.
So lock, there's a lot of reading and look there's
an executive summary from Bill you know give a good
(07:40):
overall for most people. But it as well worth while
going into those reports. And you know, if you can
bit a timing he has to flip through thirty forty pages.
It gives a how a lot of context is to
the executive summary.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Thanks the time as always, John, to enjoy the other.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Cheers, edite you ever go on, mate.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
John Permerden always got to catch up as we do.
Of course that a sens of sagean dan Stock Foods
based here in Gore. Jeff Crownd is up next talking politics.
Shock.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It means he's fairy and soon to be brighter.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Will we catch up with John Pemberton and then Satan
dan Farming ground up, thanks of course to Sergeant Dan
Stock Foods based here in good John. Good afternoon, a
bit of blue sky about finally.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, it's been been a pretty pretty good week to
be fair, apart from a bit of fog. It's you know,
sort of about nine o'clock at night, you expecting a
frost to roll in in the early years, and you
get up and there's a slight northerly breeze. So I
was sort of winning at the Moment's great because.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You're pretty busy there. You've got a bit going on.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, I go my enough of reporting. So that's one
last thing to do, which is quite good forgot that
in a month ago. So that's that's ticked off a year. Look,
we're just transitioning between the two farms, out of one
expanding the other one finishing off. The Kio shed just
moved last week. We just under lost old block locally
at bright now, which is quite good. So yeah, given
(01:04):
another month, hopefully things will be settled down.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So when do you look at dry Off?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Oh we did. We did ninety lot cares this morning
they've gone off to grazing, and then we get through
all the sale cares out of the least property in
the last sort of ten days week of May, and
then into June we start and we start going through
the the what's the rest of the remainder of the
herd gets right off. So yeah, just just sort of
(01:32):
not trying to jam too much into one week really
sort of the plan at the stage.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
How would you rate the season out of ten?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Pretty good? I think I think we got to the
November I would have told you it was pretty rubbish
because actually this November been was actually worse than the
previous one that we didn't have any floods. Now for
us not to have a flood has been since twenty twenty,
they've been pretty damn regular and not one this year.
We can the stress the management of having to deal
(02:03):
with that and not having that it has been fantastic.
So yeah, she's certainly up the other season it's been.
There has been a great season. Were just opened our
side stick on the the week en after the week
after duck shooting, so for us, it's that's pretty late
to be opening a side stick for in May for
the autumn. So yeah, no real complaints. To be fair,
(02:26):
it's been a goodie.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, let's be honest, you're opening the silence stack that
at the same time people are putting silas into the stack.
It seems we've been done later and later.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah. Yeah, well look, I think March April was better
than February, and Mark's better than January, so we're the wise.
So it does feel like then in the canny that
are still doing silid and I've been pushing into May
for a number of years now silad. So it does
feel like the seasons are altering, but it feels like
everything's a bit about a month later than what it
(02:59):
used to be. You know, springs are turning up pretty late,
pretty tough Novembers. Yeah, so it does sort of behave
your sort of thinking, how do you plan the season
going forward?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Now enough field report has been released and feedback has
been pretty positive.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yep, yeah, no, it's good God conversations over it. And
I don't make any apologies for steering the steering, the
washtonest on it. The whole point of enough in order
to challenge people's thinking and try and look for solutions,
so I think I've delivered on that. So yeah, we'll see.
We've got the biennial enough your conference happening in November
(03:37):
down and number cargo, so there will be where we
used delivery of reports of the forore enough fielders, so
there will sort of be a bit of a platform
for it should be good.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Well, I suppose when you look on twelve months from
where you were and is there anything you would have
done differently you think regarding your travels.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I got pretty lucky. Apart from those winds turning out
when I was over in Europe, evening has pretty pretty
smoothly and you look at you know, what's helping the
world now. It might have been a bit more challenging.
So no, I got pretty lucky with everything we sort
of ticked off. Yeah, you could. You could travel for
(04:19):
a lot, and certainly when I came home a number
of times, it could have quite easily just carried on
because you're just getting into more and more interesting people,
right and projects that were happening overseas. So yeah, could
have could have done a lot more, but I think
it certainly got enough done to take the boxes, that's
for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You'd encourage people to get involved enough for your scholarship
scheme as such.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, absolutely, the rural leadership, these rule leaders there's a
Kellogg program and obviously enough Field and also another program
I speak. I think very highly of as Barely Change,
which is a very limited number each year that any
one can apply. There is reasonable fee attached to it,
but it's the value get out. It's fantastic when you
(05:04):
go through the north Land and look at the start
to finish of each supply chain of horticulture, red meat
and dairy in New Zealand, and it's not so much
around understanding the complex detail of it, but more is
getting hit around the how and why and what when
(05:25):
you go to another country, understanding why they operate the
way they do. I think it just gives you a
really good at training for an ability of a lot
of especially doing enough that when you're gain to countries
to do reports sort of get you in the right
frame of mind to how the analyze things, to sort
of cut through a lot of the noise to get
to the crux of what they're doing pretty quickly, so
(05:46):
that the y change on the Northard I think is
really valuable.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Your report was based on reputation versus reality in New
Zealand searching for a North Star all about New Zealand's
fresh water crisis not being so sort of technology problem wise,
but an institutional one. So certainly, like you say, stirring
up a few wasp nests regarding a conversation, Yeah, I think,
(06:11):
and I.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Think he's read that conversation. We've got governments at ying
ying all over the show, and it's comes at quite
a cost to industry and environment, and I think we
just need to find a pathway where, especially with the
raw sector, if we can be far more cohesive around
where we're heading what we're trying to achieve, we could
(06:33):
certainly have make improvements in the environment of not having
costly swings at local in central government and the ever
imputt and how that locks and also how does a
sector work with the science have provided. So Yeah, I
think there's a lot of food for thought that that's
for sure. And Yeah, and you're really just sort of
getting into the conversation that we're actually hosting a field
(06:56):
down their property at Brighton on the nineteenth of June
during Z's partner up with this, and part of that
day is sort of looking at how do we integrate
or do the extinction through the science that we're working
with in New Zealand when it comes to farm systems.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
If people one of you your report, John, can they
find it online?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, just go to the Rule Leaders website and they'll
take you to all the all the Nuffield scholarship papers
that have been written in reports, you know, right back
to the to the fifties, so all that information is there.
So lock, there's a lot of reading and look there's
an executive summary from Bill you know give a good
(07:40):
overall for most people. But it as well worth while
going into those reports. And you know, if you can
bit a timing he has to flip through thirty forty pages.
It gives a how a lot of context is to
the executive summary.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Thanks the time as always, John, to enjoy the other.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Cheers, edite you ever go on, mate.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
John Permerden always got to catch up as we do.
Of course that a sens of sagean dan Stock Foods
based here in Gore. Jeff Crownd is up next talking politics.
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