March 11, 2026 • 7 mins
Southland MP Joseph Mooney says the fuel situation is being closely monitored by the government as prices soar and obtaining fuel could become an issue.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Joseph Mooney joins us. He is the MP for Southland.
Good afternoon, Joseph. The song is mystified by inexcess. It
is rather mystifying trying to predict where these fuel prices
are going to end up.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh yeah, good afternoon. Yeah, it's well, governments of Silish
Minister or Advisory Group who have arranged different ministers and
chief executives across a number of different related portfolios to
watch us really closely, and they met last night for
the first time. So it is Look, it's a significant
event that's happened, happening at the moment, and you know
(00:43):
that's golf and it's you know, it's about twenty percent
of world's oil supplies, about twenty percent of world's gest
supplies and the round the world's fertilized supplies flow through there,
and it's obviously the biggest disruption well proban the last century. Really,
so there's no reason for alarm in New Zealand on
(01:06):
the information that we've got available. But now we've got
our just fillupplies coming to us. But it's certainly something
watching very very closely.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Do you think Megan Woods looks back at Marston Point
deciding to shut it thinking yeah, maybe in hindsight, not
a good idea.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Look, we've had a few debates on this over the
last two weeks and there's no indication that they think that.
I mean, their argument is that they didn't close it,
but they allowed it to close, and it was I
remember seeing a letter sent to then Finance Minister from
I think it was tring infrastructure just you know, with
(01:44):
the settings that didn't really stack up around you know
what they're going to have to look there forward costs,
things we're going to be for climate change of mitigation,
et cetera. You know, around the carbon pricing and asking
for us I think some direction from government from memory,
and they obviously didn't get that and made it a
(02:06):
commercial decision to shut it down. But the government allowed
the government at the time allowed that to happen. And
so you couple that with the all and gas ban
in New Zealand. So we've lost, you know, at traction
on exploring for and drilling for all the gas opportunities
in New Zealand. They look, we thought they had done
(02:28):
decisions at the time, and they really look pretty bad
decisions now, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Does this bring you the question even more though New
Zealand's commitment to the Powers Accord Joseph, given this ongoing
situation with Iran.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, it's quite frankly the Paris Agreement shouldn't require that,
because the Paris Agreement says that each country should be
the most ambitious that can be based on its national circumstances.
The last government didn't focus on what New Zealand could
do based on the national circumstances. They focused on what
New Zealand could do in a global equity based and
that's how we ended up with a target that was
(03:02):
based on buying all credits you know, some point in
the futures and meet these targets, which the then Minister
James Shaw quite clearly spilled out the Cabinet could not
be met and the Treasury advised that seventy percent plus
of those targets would have to have to come from olshore.
So the last government quite deliberately said the target that
could not be achieved in New Zealand, rather than focusing
(03:25):
on what the Paris Agreements is, which is that you
should be most again based on your nationial circumstances. So
they didn't they didn't focus on New Zealand national circumstances.
So the problem is not with Paris Agreement, it's the
way that the last government applayed it. Like I say,
the Paris Agreement sees that you should be the most
ambitious you can be based on your national circumstances. It
doesn't say that you should focus on what other countries
(03:47):
don't else around the world and support their projects, which
is effectively what last government decided to focus on rather
than focusing on what New Zealand could do.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Do he say, any positives coming out of the situation
for New Zealand as a trading nation and especially regarding
exports possibly being on a bit of a rise at
the moment with the dollar weakening against the major currencies.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, well, we're a major food exporter, you know, small
and global terms. From most most things that you know,
we're significant, certainly particularly dairy meat, et cetera. And so
I think the prices of those are likely to increase.
And obviously the I think we're going to have to
pay close attention to is what that means for domestic
(04:30):
consumers for food prices here and you're.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Dealing eighty three cents to the Aussie dollar at the moment,
not that long ago they were considering parity.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, it's always bounces around the yeah, but I mean
the frustration for our current Finance minister is that she
just got the Treasury's forecasts which has shown that we'd
actually grown I think it's about one point seventy percent
and we're on track for huge growth of three percent.
(05:00):
It was going to be double Australia's growth. You know.
Obviously we're going to have to sort of re calculate
that given what's going on with the Middle East at
the moment. But we we up until this this Middle
East happens, which is we just have to see how
that plays out. We weren't actually on track to I
mistake Australia's growth, So it's a moving feast.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
The Primary Production Select Committee was how the meeting was,
how this morning? You got a bit of news for
us there.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, No. My neighbor and colleague Miles Anderson was
elected the chair of the committee this morning. He's been
deputy chair until this point and I happened to just
be asked to suburn, so I was there for the
vote this morning, so he would do a great job.
Mark Hemras, you know, done a great job. He's obviously
(05:49):
had some really stiff and health issues, so he's going
to remain on the committee, but Miles Edison will be
taking the chair from from the here on out.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Just exactly what does the Primary Production Select Committee do?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It examines any legislation that's relevant to the primary sector. Really,
here's from a whole raft of different people and organizations
about matters relevant to primary sector. And you know it's
sort of run and ruler over the rule over uh,
(06:29):
you know, different German organizations that's broadly connected to the
primary sector, but you know, not not just sort of
things like the Outdoor Commission, you know, for example, they
get looked at by them. So it's yeah, it's a
broader remit than just things that are strictly related to
primary production.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
What I could show tomorrow, Joe, are you turning up.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yep, no, sure will be, Yeah, looking forward to it.
So it's an amazing show. And yeah, it's a lot
of people, my Miles are telling me more country than
in the Southern field days. I'm I'm not quite so
sure about it. We'll have that debate, but both amazing
shows and I think it should be a really good event.
(07:14):
It always does well.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
The total there is forty two thy five hundred debeat.
Joseph Mooney will talk about this tomorrow. Looking forward to catching.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Up going there, look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Gimme Joseph Mooney MP for South and yeah, the whole
fuel situation, it's a moving feast at the moment as well.
Download the guests we app if you haven't got it too.
It gives you an idea of what is happening with
the fuel prices. Now listen to the muster on Hoknoy. Next,
we're going to catch up with Warren Ross farming at
Way Moonmou and living like a king on seafood lately,
(07:44):
by the sounds of it.
Joseph Mooney joins us. He is the MP for Southland.
Good afternoon, Joseph. The song is mystified by inexcess. It
is rather mystifying trying to predict where these fuel prices
are going to end up.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh yeah, good afternoon. Yeah, it's well, governments of Silish
Minister or Advisory Group who have arranged different ministers and
chief executives across a number of different related portfolios to
watch us really closely, and they met last night for
the first time. So it is Look, it's a significant
event that's happened, happening at the moment, and you know
(00:43):
that's golf and it's you know, it's about twenty percent
of world's oil supplies, about twenty percent of world's gest
supplies and the round the world's fertilized supplies flow through there,
and it's obviously the biggest disruption well proban the last century. Really,
so there's no reason for alarm in New Zealand on
(01:06):
the information that we've got available. But now we've got
our just fillupplies coming to us. But it's certainly something
watching very very closely.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Do you think Megan Woods looks back at Marston Point
deciding to shut it thinking yeah, maybe in hindsight, not
a good idea.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Look, we've had a few debates on this over the
last two weeks and there's no indication that they think that.
I mean, their argument is that they didn't close it,
but they allowed it to close, and it was I
remember seeing a letter sent to then Finance Minister from
I think it was tring infrastructure just you know, with
(01:44):
the settings that didn't really stack up around you know
what they're going to have to look there forward costs,
things we're going to be for climate change of mitigation,
et cetera. You know, around the carbon pricing and asking
for us I think some direction from government from memory,
and they obviously didn't get that and made it a
(02:06):
commercial decision to shut it down. But the government allowed
the government at the time allowed that to happen. And
so you couple that with the all and gas ban
in New Zealand. So we've lost, you know, at traction
on exploring for and drilling for all the gas opportunities
in New Zealand. They look, we thought they had done
(02:28):
decisions at the time, and they really look pretty bad
decisions now, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Does this bring you the question even more though New
Zealand's commitment to the Powers Accord Joseph, given this ongoing
situation with Iran.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, it's quite frankly the Paris Agreement shouldn't require that,
because the Paris Agreement says that each country should be
the most ambitious that can be based on its national circumstances.
The last government didn't focus on what New Zealand could
do based on the national circumstances. They focused on what
New Zealand could do in a global equity based and
that's how we ended up with a target that was
(03:02):
based on buying all credits you know, some point in
the futures and meet these targets, which the then Minister
James Shaw quite clearly spilled out the Cabinet could not
be met and the Treasury advised that seventy percent plus
of those targets would have to have to come from olshore.
So the last government quite deliberately said the target that
could not be achieved in New Zealand, rather than focusing
(03:25):
on what the Paris Agreements is, which is that you
should be most again based on your nationial circumstances. So
they didn't they didn't focus on New Zealand national circumstances.
So the problem is not with Paris Agreement, it's the
way that the last government applayed it. Like I say,
the Paris Agreement sees that you should be the most
ambitious you can be based on your national circumstances. It
doesn't say that you should focus on what other countries
(03:47):
don't else around the world and support their projects, which
is effectively what last government decided to focus on rather
than focusing on what New Zealand could do.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Do he say, any positives coming out of the situation
for New Zealand as a trading nation and especially regarding
exports possibly being on a bit of a rise at
the moment with the dollar weakening against the major currencies.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, well, we're a major food exporter, you know, small
and global terms. From most most things that you know,
we're significant, certainly particularly dairy meat, et cetera. And so
I think the prices of those are likely to increase.
And obviously the I think we're going to have to
pay close attention to is what that means for domestic
(04:30):
consumers for food prices here and you're.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Dealing eighty three cents to the Aussie dollar at the moment,
not that long ago they were considering parity.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, it's always bounces around the yeah, but I mean
the frustration for our current Finance minister is that she
just got the Treasury's forecasts which has shown that we'd
actually grown I think it's about one point seventy percent
and we're on track for huge growth of three percent.
(05:00):
It was going to be double Australia's growth. You know.
Obviously we're going to have to sort of re calculate
that given what's going on with the Middle East at
the moment. But we we up until this this Middle
East happens, which is we just have to see how
that plays out. We weren't actually on track to I
mistake Australia's growth, So it's a moving feast.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
The Primary Production Select Committee was how the meeting was,
how this morning? You got a bit of news for
us there.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, No. My neighbor and colleague Miles Anderson was
elected the chair of the committee this morning. He's been
deputy chair until this point and I happened to just
be asked to suburn, so I was there for the
vote this morning, so he would do a great job.
Mark Hemras, you know, done a great job. He's obviously
(05:49):
had some really stiff and health issues, so he's going
to remain on the committee, but Miles Edison will be
taking the chair from from the here on out.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Just exactly what does the Primary Production Select Committee do?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It examines any legislation that's relevant to the primary sector. Really,
here's from a whole raft of different people and organizations
about matters relevant to primary sector. And you know it's
sort of run and ruler over the rule over uh,
(06:29):
you know, different German organizations that's broadly connected to the
primary sector, but you know, not not just sort of
things like the Outdoor Commission, you know, for example, they
get looked at by them. So it's yeah, it's a
broader remit than just things that are strictly related to
primary production.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
What I could show tomorrow, Joe, are you turning up.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yep, no, sure will be, Yeah, looking forward to it.
So it's an amazing show. And yeah, it's a lot
of people, my Miles are telling me more country than
in the Southern field days. I'm I'm not quite so
sure about it. We'll have that debate, but both amazing
shows and I think it should be a really good event.
(07:14):
It always does well.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
The total there is forty two thy five hundred debeat.
Joseph Mooney will talk about this tomorrow. Looking forward to catching.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Up going there, look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Gimme Joseph Mooney MP for South and yeah, the whole
fuel situation, it's a moving feast at the moment as well.
Download the guests we app if you haven't got it too.
It gives you an idea of what is happening with
the fuel prices. Now listen to the muster on Hoknoy. Next,
we're going to catch up with Warren Ross farming at
Way Moonmou and living like a king on seafood lately,
(07:44):
by the sounds of it.
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