October 10, 2025 • 54 mins
Following the Cardinals' embarrassing meltdown in Week 5 against the Tennessee Titans, they now face the 4-1 Indianapolis Colts on the road. Jess and Seth preview the game, look at the play of Daniel Jones, talk about keys to victory and important matchups, and they give you their picks, predictions and best bets for the game.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yes, this is the Rise Up Sea Red podcast all
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
And Seth Cox.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
He Lorazona Cardinals fans, and welcome to the latest edition
of the Rise Up Seriit podcast of this our Cardinals
Talk on the Web. I'm your host Jess Root from
Cardswire dot com USA today's NFL wire site covering the
Arizona Cardinals and recording our second show of the week,
our preview show, our preview picks and prediction show. My
co host Seth Cox from Revenge of the Verse dot
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com sp nation series go on a Cardinal's site and
Seth we it looks like that that fans a good chunk.
The fans are going to get their wish and the
Cardinals are going to play the Colts without Hyler Murray
as Murray is currently dealing with an injury hasn't practiced
through two days. I mean things could change Friday, but
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signs are pointing towards a Brissette reunion start in Indy.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, it should be exciting. I mean, we all love
we all love a good backup quarterback, right, and you know,
the last time the Cardinals had a decent backup quarterback
it was a gentleman, Andrew Stanton. But you know, that's
been fun.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I mean we could say that Colt McCoy was pretty
all right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, I mean he did fine, I got but yeah,
I mean fans love the backup, right, like that's how
that's how people like it, and that's what they like
to do. So we'll see how this goes this week
and what happens. But you know, so far, it's it's
been middle and interesting to see the reactions and how
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much better the offense is going to be now. So
I mean we can expect some type of explosion this week, right.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I mean sure, Let's consider this fact that the Colts
are number two in points scored, number four yards and
number three in points allowed. This is a beast of
a game. The Colts are way better than anyone expected,
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and Daniel Jones is having himself a season. Number three
in passing, doesn't have them like monster touchdown numbers. He
got six touchdowns in two interceptions. But you can add
to that he's rushed for three touchdowns himself. He has
only been sacked four times, so he's leading the league
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with the lowest sack percentage, a guy who has been
to gurious for getting sacked. The fact we'll talk about
that fact is the fact the Cardinals, in three games
against Daniel Jones, has sacked him seventeen times. Chandler Jones
had four sacks against him. Hassan Reddick had five sacks
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against him. He's thrown two interceptions and fumbled six times
against the Cardinals, but he is having a monster season
so far. The leaving New York trend continues that getting
out of New York and then remaking your courage, you
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know Smith, Sam Darnold and now Daniel Jones. Apparently what
do you see from this Colts offense so far, which
is averaging nearly thirty three points a game.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You know, a lot of it just comes down to execution,
finding the guy that fits what the offense wants to do,
and then, like you said, there's a lot of times
that it's just you know, guy is that have that
resurgence and and fit into a scheme so much better
than other guys. Saying Shane Steichen, you know, has had
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success in the past, obviously with the Eagles, but you
look at it last year, you know they had Anthony
Richardson and Joe Flacco starting games that didn't really work out.
You know, the year before that they they were tenth
in scoring in the NFL, So not bad, but it
was you know, Gardner Minshew and and Anthony Richardson starting
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games and and so you know that makes it really
difficult to execute.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And so.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Sometimes operation sometimes it's it's you know, finding the right
guy in the right fit. You look at Steichen's offense
and and they've always been good in the yard, right,
I mean you look at it, uh, you know with
the with the Chargers, Uh he was fifth and ninth
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in points. With the Eagles, who was eighth and first
in points? And then and then he got to Indian
it was eighteenth and twenty third. Sorry I was yards,
not points. Excuse me. And and you're like, okay, well
this doesn't make any sense, like why is this offensive
guru not guruing our offense? But you know, just they
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didn't have the fit Anthony. They took a swing on
Anthony Richardson. It's always the age old question, right, like
whose call was that was? That was that Steichen's call.
Was that a call made by the management? Like, how
did that work out? That that a guy that had
never really had a lot of success in college but
had a lot of great physical attributes, uh, get picked
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fourth overall in the NFL draft.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And and.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You know that's maybe what was holding back Steichen the
whole time, because again this year, now they're fifth in
yards you mentioned at second in points if and again
we're barely a third of the way through the season, right,
if this was the hold, this would be the best
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scoring offense at least rankings wise in Steichen's coaching career.
You know, the highest they ever got with the Eagles
was third, being second this year obviously he's a little
step up from that. So it's just you know, it's
just interesting to see that it's a lot about fit, right,
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like something that we talk about all the time. A
lot of it's just about the fit of the coach
and the court. And you know, Daniel Jones has had
flashes previously, but he never been able to really do
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anything for a long period of time. I mean you
look at his career, you know, twenty four touchdowns, twelve
interceptions as a rookie, everybody was kind of like, Okay,
it's not bad, but then follows that up with eleven
touchdowns to ten interceptions. Ten touchdowns to seven interceptions, when's
the comeback player of the year gets the Giants to
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the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And he was really good that one year when Stable
really limited things, he started using his legs more. He
didn't turn the ball over. But other than that, he's
been a turnover machine. He's Sam Donald. He isn't easy,
basically a different version of Sam Donald.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, it was just a lot of turnovers. There was
a lot of low percentage passing. I mean in a
league where sixty five percent now kind of average for
completion percentage, she was, you know, sixty one, sixty two,
sixty four, and even as last year in New York
he was sixty three percent. A guy that you know
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had never thrown for over thirty two hundred yards in
a season, but even this year, you look at it,
I mean, a great start. And if I asked anybody,
and I do mean anybody, how many touchdowns Daniel Jones
was thrown for. And I told you he's thrown for
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the same amount of touchdowns as Kyler Murray, people would
be like no, there's no way. And so that's just it, right,
Like the NFL is is a lot of times a
team game, and you and I have talked about this
in a number of times, right, there's you know, I
say three to five. I think I saw Luke McCown
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the other day say five to seven elite quarterbacks, I
would say three to five.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Whatever, Yeah, I would agree if if you want to
push Justin Herbert into into that category, you get to five.
After that, it's like we've said before, it comes down
to what year is it?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What year is right, yeah, and so then you look
at it, right and it's and then six to twenty
are basically interchangeable, right, Like you're just like, see who's
see who's at the top of the heap this year?
And and I guess technically we could put Daniel Jones
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at the top of that heap this year, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's been really good.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But there's one thing this year, Jess that's kind of
stood out over everything else he's doing. And you brought
it up when you talked about his games against the Cardinals.
He's been sacked four times this year. So a guy
that took a lot of sacks every again, on pace
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for twelve sacks in a season.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
That's crazy, it's crazy. Well, and that's that's that's that's really, really, really,
I guess kind of the difference maker for him because
that that Polts offensive line has protected him well, they've
been healthy.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And then here's the other part to that that that
we haven't even mentioned yet is the fact that they
have the NFL's leading rusher in Jonathan Taylor. Four hundred
and eighty yards through five games, six touchdowns, six rushing touchdowns,
leads the NFL. His seventh old touchdowns lead the NFL.
He leads the NFL averaging ninety six yards per game.
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And so it starts with it starts with Jonathan Taylor
because like Jenel Jones's passing numbers are gaudy, but you
look at the individual receivers like they're leading receivers, they're
rookie tight end Tyler Warren. They're not getting massive production
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from one or two guys. And so you've got Tyler
Warren at at three hundred and seven rushing year receiving
yards through five games that over a seventeen game season
barely clears a thousand yards.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
What it looks like right now, because they've got They've
got Michael Pittman at two hundred and seventy three rushing
yards and then a bunch of guys. You've got Alec
Pearce with one seventy one, Josh Downs with one seventy five,
Jonathan Taylor, who remember, you know, couldn't catch the ball.
He's got one hundred and three to three rushing yards
receiving yards, and so that the game, the targets are
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going all over. I do want to say one thing
about the Colts of War that maybe just maybe there's
a little bit of fool's gold and what they've done
so far in terms of their scale. They're four and
one and they blew out the Dolphins. Dolphins are bad team.
They blew out the Titans better than the Cardinals did.
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They're a bad team. They blew out the Raiders. Raiders
are bad team. Against the Broncos, they sneaked away with
the twenty nine to twenty eight win. Now, I would
say so that that bodes well for them because this
fact that they could score twenty nine points on the
Broncos and then they lost twenty seven to twenty to
the Rams. The Rams, who have a really good who
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played at times like the best team in football and
have a defense that can shut them. Now they score
twenty on them. And so the two teams that you
would consider competitive or solid teams, I think with this
point we can firmly say that we're going to put
the Broncos and the Rams both a notch above the Cardinals.
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But both those games were one point win and a loss,
which means that they had what they have done so
far as the Colts have feasted on lesser opponents, which
is what the Cardinals were supposed to do but haven't.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, and that's really what it is, right, I mean,
you mentioned it, the teams they've beat, and this is
taking nothing away from them because they're doing it at
a better rate than the Cardinals are. Obviously, you know,
the teams that they've beat have three wins combined, and
the Raiders, the Titans. We obviously know the Raiders and
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you know, oh, I'm sorry, and then the Broncos. We
can say that the Broncos was a good win, right three, Yeah,
but they're also the Titan or the Broncos are a
very up and down team as well. They are like
you know, they they sneak one out against Tennessee. Then
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they they lose close ones to Indy and and l a.
They're kind of the Cardinals last year, right, like, other
than beating Philly, like they've they beat teams they're supposed
to beat, and then lose close ones to the teams
that are good. And so that's that's what that's about.
But we've talked about the Philly situation too. I don't
know if they're actually good this year, right, And and
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so you look at it. What they're doing though, is
impressive in the sense of, you know, their second end
points per game, they're third in points against. You know,
they're they're a top four team in our top five
team in yards and their top fifteen teams in the
yards against. And that's something that you and I talked
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about when it came to THEIRS and the Cardinals, you know,
and I saw a lot of people kind of lamenting
some things on the internets about you know, oh, this
the fourth rank scoring defense in the NFL. I'm like, yeah,
but that's kind of fools gold, right, Like they're twenty
first in yards given up this year, Like they they
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don't get a lot of stops, No, they they hold
teams to field goals or or they get leads and
then end up giving up you know, like we've talked
about these Nickel and Dime ten twelve play drives for
eighty plus yards late in games that teams you know,
it's feast or families either oh they score a touchdown
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or they turn it over on downs and you know,
it's worked to a point. And the difference with that
is when you're when you're playing against a team like
the Colts. They're decent in in not allowing yards. The
one game that they got kind of shredded was against
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the Los Angeles Rams. They didn't defend very well against
the Broncos either in that win, but that was a,
you know, again an interesting game. And the other thing
that they've done this year that you know, we talked
about all the time and how important things are, it's turnovers. Right,
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So the Colts have three turnovers on the season.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And they were all against.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
By the way, yeah, all against the team they lost to.
Isn't that kind of like speak volumes right like? And
and they forced eight turnovers. The Cardinals aren't bad and
they're not good, like they turn them all over six times.
They forced six turnovers.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And and we do have to note that one of
their takeaways was a turnover off of a turnover, right.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah. Well, also one of their takeaways resulted in a
touchdown for the other team.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That is that is true? That is true. One of
their take one of their takeaways, uh, turned into a
touchdown for the other team. And one of their takeaways
was is not even the defense on the field, It
was an interception that they fumbled back. Oh that's yeah.
But this hasn't been a clown show for the Cardinals
this year, really it has. It has been a couple
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a whole bunch of un unlikely things happening, and that's
that's bad.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So, you know, we'll see how this all kind of
comes to a head this week. Because you have a
team that's playing confidently with at a high level, and
then you have a team that's coming off what you know,
you and I described as probably the most embarrassing loss
at least of the last fifteen years. Yeah and so
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and so it's really a juxtaposition of where teams are at.
I guess the one good thing is that the cardinals
three losses are about by a combined five points, So
that's not too bad, right.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I mean that is like as bad as things are,
they are to two NFC West teams that are competitive
and the flukiest of fluke games you could ever have,
and so you know, it feels like this guy. The
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vibes were very bad in Arizona. There are no good
vibes here at all. But the record isn't as bad.
The outcome isn't as bad as how things feel, at
least now. A couple of things is that the Colts
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have a new kicker this week, as Spencer Strader, who
was leading the NFL in scoring and in field goals.
He's thirteen for fourteen on field goals this season. He's
out for the year. They signed Michael Badgely. Badly in
his career against the Cardinals has had one horrific game
and one game and he was part of the He
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was the kicker for the the Colts in their last
game against them in twenty twenty one on that Christmas
Day game. So it'll be Michael Badgeley, a guy who
was unemployed, which means good luck, like you don't know
what you're gonna get. That he might get hot like
Chad Ryland did or he might be an inconsistent mess. Defensively,
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they have fourteen sacks through the first five games. They
have is interesting. Laatu Latu a guy that we liked
come out of the draft last year that the Cardinals
passed on. He's not only got a sack, but a
pair of interceptions. They've picked off six passes. Cameron Bynum
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safety is having hum lf a good year already, two
interceptions so far, Kenny Moore return one for a touchdown.
But you've got three sacks from some Taekwon Lewis, a
couple from Samson Nebucam. Samson Abukam a guy that we
liked in terms of athleticism. Uh, You've got with the sack,
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and they're getting it from Unlike the Cardinals, who all
but two sacks come from Josh Sweat and Kalais Campbell.
Of the Colts, fourteen sacks come from eleven players combined,
so they're getting it done from all over. It is
much more of a team effort, and they've got good
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guys on the interior with Grover Stewart and DeForrest Buckner.
You've got a really good linebacker in Zire Franklin. You
get solid edge presents and quit it pay Taekwon lewis
having a good year life. So they've got a very
good rotation of of edge rushers and lou An Arumo,
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who became like remember how the hot name that lou
An Arumo was. He was supposed to he was in
line for Cardinal's job. He was doing great work in Cincinnati,
and then when Cincinnati's defense turned to poop, he finds
himself u in Indianapolis with a you know, a team
that is performing quite well defensively.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, and you know, now we'll see how this all
looks coming up and what the plan is, you know,
to really help this team get back on track because
the reality of the situation is that, you know, you
are at a crossroads just in terms of you can't
go into the by two and five, like that's just
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that's a death now for a season. You need to
steal a win in one of these games. And now
with Jaccobriuberssett you know kind of slated to start. It's
still Thursday. Kyler's meant both practices this week, so it's
we have a feeling that Jacoby's slated to start, but
you know, we can't confirm that right, Like, it's not
an official I.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Believe Kyler's played without practicing before, but I'm not sure
if that's been the case under Jonathan Gannon.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And so, you know, you just look at it from
that perspective. And this is one of those situations where
it's easy to make an excuse for being two and
five with these next two games.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But they can the season won't survive it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
The season won't survive it. And based on how you
lost the last three games, you really have no room
for excuses at this point because as as much as
we can say they could be five and oh, they
could be zero and five as well.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Like, yes, yes they could because it took it took
Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson breaking up a pass in
the end zone and they almost lost that Panthers game
in crazy fashion as well. So uh, maybe maybe crazy
will go in their faith. Like, honestly, as we'll talk about,
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I think the only way the Cardinals can win this
game is crazy happens in their direction.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, that's always not a fun.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
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that matter in this game against the Colts. I think, what, obviously,
when you have the league's leading rusher, you have to
limit him, now shut him down. I mean, the Cardinals
did a pretty dang good job against Chrishman McCaffrey overall,
that was one of mac Wilson's best games that we've seen.
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But well, McCaffrey still ended up making plays when he
needed to. So I think number one is that they
need to keep Taylor's explosives away, like keep his gains
to two to five yards and don't let them rip
off the the big runs because he's as much as
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good as he is. Not only is he efficient, he
is also explosive, and those plays will be what would
be what kind of takes the heart out of the
Cardinals defense. And you know, for the most part, defensively,
they've they've been a good way. I saw this for
me at Kimes. They were there number one in defensive
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EPA through the first three quarters and dropped to twenty
seventh in the fourth quarter. That is the weirdest thing
I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, and I mean it's just and what people don't
get about EPA is it's not like it's not like
simple things like you know, how many plays they see
or things like that, Like it's a formula based on
like expected points, and they're expected points going up that much.
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People are like, oh, it's because they're on the field
so much. It's like, but they're not right. They're on
the field because they they're off like they're not getting
a stop. And that's something you and I have highlighted.
I mean, the conversation, it is what it is at
this point. But you know you mentioned you mentioned stopping
Jonathan Taylor. Right, think about this, Jess. In three games,
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Jonathan Taylor has has had a let's just call it
for easy math sake, two hundred and two hundred yards
in three games. It's I think it's like two o seven,
but two hundred yards and three games. And then in
two games he's got two hundred and sixty seven yards rushing.
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So the thing with Jonathan Taylor is exactly what you said.
If you're keeping them in that his long run range
in that twenty yards, right, like his longest run of
the of the day's twenty yards, you're containing him for
the most part. I mean the three games three point
nine four point five to three point nine yards.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And his long for those games were twelve, fifteen and sixteen.
His two big games is two hundred yard plus ones.
He had a forty six against Tennessee and he had
a sixty eight against den Denver.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, and then, but it also corresponds to receiving. I
mean against Tennessee they didn't need him in that way,
but you look at it. He had two catches for
fifty yards against against Denver, one of those catches was
for forty three yards like a and a touchdown Like
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that's that's what you need to stop. Like you cannot have,
like you said, you can't have explosive plays for this guy,
because when he does, you their offense, that's when their
offense is at its best because then they're able to
go play action. Then they're able to I mean, you
know Shane Stitch and isn't a direct you know, relation
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to Drew Petsing, but they have similar offensive philosophies and usages.
And that's why they needed Tyler Warren so bad for
this offense to really start to take off. Because you
mentioned it. It's not like it's not like they're just
you know, throwing the air and the ball out all
over the field to a bunch of wide receivers. Right,
Tyler Warren's their guy in the in a similar vein
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to how uh Prayman Pride is the Cardinals guy. So
it's it's an offense that's based on, you know, getting
the ball too, and.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
They are throwing the ball relatively a lot, but that's
because they have the ball a lot. They they Daniel
Jones is ever they averaging thirty throw it through three
pass attempts. Again, but when you are number four in
the yards, that means you are on the field a
lot in they average six point eight plays per drive
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and so yeah, they're they've been very good. Just overall,
they've been really good.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, And so that that's one thing. The second thing
is you again you mentioned it, but how do you
how do you slow down a pass rush that comes
from everywhere? Right? I mean we talked about it fourteen
sacks on the season. I think when you say seven
different guys have sax eleven eleven different guy. Meanwhile, the
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Cardinals we've talked about ten sacks from four guys. That's
don't get me wrong. We appreciate Joshuwatt and Class Campbell's
it's good, but that's not that's not great. And I
see people hyping up like, oh, look at the pressures,
Look at the pressures.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It's like, how is how are those pressures if impacting
the passing game? But they are terrible against the pass.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Right and so you know, that's one of the things
that we'll have to watch because you mentioned it. You know,
they just they're not doing a great job getting after
the passer. They're not doing a great job of creating
negative plays, especially late in games. So it'll be interesting.
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You know, you and I've talked about it. You talked
about getting off the field. How important that is the
time of possession. The Cardinals have a twenty three second
time of possession advantage. The problem is the drive, the
number of plays the opposition runs a half of play
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more per game or per drive, excuse me, and then
averages four yards more per like That's what the issue
becomes it's not it's not about the EPA in the
sense of like, oh they can't you know, they're not
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getting stops or this or that. It's that they just
the death by a thousand cuts is a real I mean,
it's legitimate with this group, and it is as a fan,
right like, oh man, it's tough, tough, tough to watch
sometimes because you're like, this is dreadful, man.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And then and then they will always it's death by
a thousand cuts. They're like, don't give anything. But every
every game in the fourth quarter, there is a big
play that happens in a critical in a critical series
that the you know, you're keeping them the short, short, short, short,
and then you get a thirty eight to Jackson Smith
in check, but you give up a forty five to
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to Calvin Ridley. H you know, you give something up
to to Ricky Piersall or or whoever it is. It's
Joe John's they they're not only are they not good
about getting off the field, they're also giving up big
plays in bad moments.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, and we talked about the Calvin Ridley you know,
fourth quarter, how bad that was. It must have been
from exhaustion, because I mean, they just played so much
and must have been so exhausted.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
That they had almost an equal number of snaps in
that game offensively and defensively. It's like, I don't like,
they're gas. No, they're not gas. The other reason they're
gases because they're not coming off of the field because
the offense is playing just as much. The offense is
playing just as much. It's just they're not getting off
the field. Blah blah blah. Yeah. I think one of
the key things is going to be if you can
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force kicks, put the pressure on Michael Badgely because Trader's
been automatic this year. Badgely is going to be with
a new battery of specialists, and then yeah, it's gonna
be It's gonna be interesting. How do they how do
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they limit or how do they keep Tyler Warren from
moving the chains? I want to see I want to
see this week for the Cardinals. What's the play? Can
we get Will Hernandez in there for a full game?
And is Evan Brown gonna be back in the lineup?
And if Evan Brown is back in the line does
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that mean that Will Hernandez has officially replaced Isaiah Adams
or if because what was really unfortunate for I know
he was on a snap count was I would have
liked him to have rotated like they've done with their
guards before. But he played what twenty three snaps and
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maybe that was all they wanted to play and he
got him in the first three series, didn't come in again.
It would have, you know, had he played two series
one off, one on, one off, one on, and that
way you get some impact because the difference between when
he was in the game and when he wasn't in
the game was was stark. And when you've got the
the defensive interior guys that the Colts have, you need
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a healthy Evan Brown and you need Will Hernandez in
because you've got you've got DeForest Buckner, you've got Grover Stewart,
you've got Neville Gallimore. They have some good guys in
that interior. And yeah, and we really we desperately need
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that that the offensive line interior to be better than
they've been. And it looked about as good have we've
seen them when the Will was in the game.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Oh yeah, you know that's their strength. And you know,
we can pick on Isaiah Adams as much as we want,
but the reality is he's been a disappointment this year.
And that's putting it mildly.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeldis Evan's been worse, Yelled has been worse, and Isaiah
Adams has been far from good.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, and so it just makes it difficult. And you know,
we've talked about the the running game. I mean, the
reality is that Tyler's your best runner and now he's out.
And so you got to know Michael and Michael Carter,
who you know is averaging two point seven yards per carry,
and Mri de Mercado who has one good run, you know,
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and his other six carries are for nineteen yards eighteen
yards excuse me, And so you know he's averaging three
years carry out side of his seventy one yard fumble run.
And so those are all I mean, it's it's been
a devast stating year for the run game. And so
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you you mentioned it, you know, when you when you
talk about the Colts and what they've done this year,
their run defenses is slightly above average. It's not bad,
it's not good. Their yards per attempt allowed is four
point five, so again they're not they're not exactly killing it.
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In the stopping the run department. But the Cardinals are
being killed and being able to run the ball, and
now you have no Kyler Murray to help with the
wrung game.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
You have.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Obviously no James Connor, you have no Trey Benson, and
the guys that have replaced them have been mostly terrible,
if not completely terrible. And that's not a shot at
Carter and de Mercado. That's that's just the reality. So
you know, the that is a matchup to watch because
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if you go into this game and you're saying, like Heydria, Kobe,
we need you to win us a game, you probably
already lost, right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, I mean, let Jakob Prissette's record as a starter
is nineteen and thirty four. And while he had as
an NFL record low one point six percent touchdown I
mean interception percentage, he also in what is it thirty,
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has thirty one career touchdowns. I gotta pull that up.
I was, I was just citing that to you.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
He has.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Fifty three career touchdown passes in fifty in eighty nine games. Now,
a lot of those are but he's fifty three touchdown
passes and he has fifty three starts. I know some
of those touchdown passes have come in relief. You know,
stepping in is one point four percent interception percentage interception rate.
He just doesn't produce passing touchdowns. And maybe the short
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passing game will be more effective. Maybe we'll see a
little bit more of the get like when Colton Koy
was in the game for in the Cliff Kingsbury Days
and he get the ball out, ball out, ball out,
ball out. And but I get the feeling that if
this game goes like it could, like Brissett is a
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guy who if you are on schedule and playing as
with a tire or lead, you can win a close game.
But here, there's no way in the world he's going
to be able to bring you back from down multiple scores.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Right, And that's just the reality. I mean, you look
at his career and again it's nothing against Jakoby Brissette,
but I mean as a starter, it's been you know,
it's been ugly. He's he's nineteen and thirty four as
a starter overall. You mentioned, you know, fifty three touchdowns
to twenty four interceptions in fifty three starts. He doesn't
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turn the ball over. He's a consonant backup, like he's
the ideal backupquarterback. And you know, he's got one year
where he was almost five hundred seven and eight with
these Indianapolis Colts, but that was a lifetime ago, basically
in twenty nineteen, and since then he's been basically that
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guy that you mentioned with those stats. I mean, a
guy that takes care of the ball, doesn't turn the
ball over. I mean, it's just it hasn't been it
hasn't been pretty, and it's it sacked a lot because
he's not a mobile guy by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, he was stacked eighteen times in five games last year.
Remember now, remember when he was with the Patriots last year.
The goal that he was He entered that year as
a starter and the absolute goal was to have him
to start as long as he could until Drake May
was ready. And he was. He was benched fairly quickly.
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He lasted five games. And here were the offensive totals
for the cult for the Patriots in the five games
that he started last year, sixteen points, twenty three, thirteen ten.
He had oh is it two touchdown passes in five games. Right,
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That's that he's gonna have to be like, they're gonna
have to do more. I don't know how they're gonna
do it, but they're gonna have to do more. He's
going to have to do more because what he won't
be able to do is to create out of nothing,
Like if pressure comes, he's gonna have to get rid
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of the ball because he doesn't have this capability, the
escapability that Kyler does.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Right, And so we'll see how this goes this week.
But those are the I mean, those are the matchups
to watch. I guess the last one would be, you know,
Will Johnson against Michael Pittman, who's their top you know,
receiving threat. But we talked about it. It's really it's
really who's going to slow down Tyler Warren, Yes, And
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we don't know how they're gonna come back that or
who they're gonna throw them. I'm assuming it'll be a
audrey of guys, right, It'll be a King Davis Gaither,
It'll be Mac Wilson, it'll be Buddha Baker, it'll be
Jalen Thompson, it'll be Rabbit a little bit. Hell. You
might even see you know, reps with Max or Will
on him. Right, like, depending on the situation and where
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he aligns, so they just they have to slow down that.
But the matchups are pretty straightforward, right the Cardinals offensive
line versus a stellar Colts front and can the Cardinals
find a way to keep Jonathan Taylor from making explosive plays?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Coming at exit the rest of See Your Podcast, It's
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the props that would be worth making plays on. And
my initial reaction, my gut reaction, is when when the
Cardinals turned gave the ball back and I remember tweeting
they're gonna lose, that they're gonna lose this game on
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a last second field goal and then they're gonna get
smoked by their Colts. I don't know if it's gonna
be smoked, but it very well could be. I don't
think this will be a super competitive game. I think
the Cardinals are gonna be playing from probably ten points
down most of the game. I'm I'm gonna say the
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Colts win this game twenty seven six. The car will
only get one touchdown and the rest are our field goals.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, I was gonna say twenty seven to thirteen. So
I'm right there with you. You know. The interesting thing
to me are a couple of the lines that we've seen.
We talked about Jonathan Taylor. His line is actually reasonable
at eighty nine and a half. By the way, everything's
on bet MGM this week. Fandel has nothing to offer
as of this moment from player prop standpoints, so don't
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go there. The other thing is Jess and I are
both on the under. It's right now on bet MGM.
It's forty seven, Fandel, it's forty six and a half,
So both on the under. Don't see this unless it's
all cult right, unless it's another forty to thirteen that.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
They could be. It could be, it could end up
being being. Yeah, it could be a thirty seven thirteen
type game. And the line has actually moved a little
bit more because it was a six and a half
point spread to start the week, it's pushed all the
way to seven, and then I think that's the the
Jacoby Brissett effect.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Is.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
But that extra that extra point, that extra half point
that gives you the possibility of a push, because we
kind of feel this is going to be at least
a one score game, but if it can be eight,
Like at six and a half, you're like, oh yeah,
oh yeah, definitely Colts. At seven, you're like, if it
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pushes to seven. So personally, I think the Colts easily
cover this game. Yeah, I agree that said, if you
if you feel good about the Cardinals, if you feel
good about the Cardinals playing better, coming back and responding, okay,
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you might take an alternate spread at plus seven Cardinals
plus seven and a half at minus one thirty. I
wouldn't do it, but I can see why someone would
because they've lost three close games right in a row. Now,
granted with Kyler, they they're all locked in. They could
pull an up and I think I think they could
pull an upstet, but this this Colts offense is too
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good and the Cardinals are going to have to play
an ugly game. Like we keep saying this, the Cardinals
have to play an ugly game for this game to
stay close. So if you think the Cardinals can be competitive,
take that alternate spread plus seven and a half. It's
not great odds, but it's not terrible at minus one thirty.
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But yeah, I do like the under in this game
simply because I don't think the Cardinals are going to
I think the Cardinals defensively will be okay, but I
think more than anything, I think they're going to struggle offensively.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, I would agree with that, since then they've struggled
offensively any ways, and now they're downgrading at the quarterback position.
Let me ask you about this line. Are these these
rushing lines? Like I said, Jonathan Taylor's makes sense, it's
eighty nine and a half ninety six a game. Michael
Carter's is forty six and a half. Am I missing something?
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Well, didn't he have? We didn't have fifty one in
the game against the Titans. Let me, I think that's
the I think he had thirteen for fifty one. Yeah,
he had eighteen for fifty one in that game, so
he's getting he's getting though, But granted that was also
when they were playing from ahead, so they ran the
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ball a lot. Eighteen carries for Michael Carter is a lot,
and so I guess what they are seeing is that
he's gonna get fifteen carries, right, But he's average.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I mean he's averaging less than three yards of I'm
not disagreeing, but I mean his long on the season seven,
he's averaging less than three yards of carry and he's
going up against a team that's gonna play from ahead
this week. Yeah. I do like the.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
It's the longest run USh never mind, I thought that
was I thought that was rushing attempts. If you're like
twelve and a half rushing attempts, Yeah, I take that one.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
I do like Daniel Jones over sixteen and a half.
He's going to break free for He's going to break
free for a couple I think like that for Daniel
Jones over sixteen and a half rushing yards for minus
one ten.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Do you like the over for Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah? I would. I mean eighty nine and a half.
I think he's right around one hundred yards. The question
becomes is it an effective one hundred yards or is
it a grind out one yeah yard. If it's a
grind out, then it's a good thing. For the Cardinals, right,
it's it's only bad if it's if it's you know,
one hundred yards on on on twelve carries or one
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hundred plus yards on you know, twenty carries, and he's
in that one forty one fifty range that he's been
a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
If you if you're not sure about the rushing yards,
just as you've get the same money on the combined
rushing and receiving yards minus won fifteen for over one
twelve and a half. I think i'd lean for that
one rather than just the rushing.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, I agree with that because that that was the
first thing I opened up, by the way, when I
saw Michael Carter sixty four and a half and.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I was like, although, although I did tell you guys
to take over two and a half receptions on Michael
Carter last week, and that one, that one cast guys,
that one was good because he ended up what was it,
five receptions in that game, because like, he's the checkdown
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he's a checkdown option, and Dorts just missed. Dorts just missed.
I had over two and a half, although I can't
remember he had one at that point of like if
he was over one and a half or over two
and a half. He finished with two, So if you
got him at one and a half, you you cast
in that one, now, ah the okay, Trey McBride sixty.
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I don't know what to think about the receiving props
for the Cardinals, Okay, I'll do this. Michael Carter over
fourteen and a half receiving yards. I think that one's
that one's a lock.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, I would agree with that, but after that, I am.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Not confident at all. Would you? Would you say? And
we don't guess what, we don't have any good odds
in this game? Oh oh, never mind kicking props. Lock
it in. Chad Ryland over one and a half field
goals made at plus one ten Take that, Take that one,
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Chad Ryland two field goals. That seems like that's easy
of plus money exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
That's that's where you feel like they're going to be
able to get something done. Team touchdowns is an interesting
one because the Cardinals first half touchdown totals over over
a half and that's minus two hundred. Do you think
they score the first half? Because if not getting that
at plus one fifty four could score a touchdown, I
should say, getting that at plus one fifty four is
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actually a decent value.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yeah, I like, I think so, I think so maybe
that first drive will be scripted well, like remember remember
how the Cardinals like for the first two seasons, You're like, oh,
their money for her first drive touchdown and then they
went eight games like last week was their first opening
drive touchdown in half a season. Maybe it will look
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better because they'll have something different for Jacoby. I don't know. Yeah,
all right, first though, ooh, I like I like the Colts.
I like the Colts first line, first line spread, first
half spread at minus four and a half. I think
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that one's yeah, I like that one. So Colts minus
four and a half first half spread.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, I would agree with that one. And and you
know it's this is a this is a tough game
overall to look at, you know. I The other one
when you look at it that is interesting is you
can get both teams to score three or more points
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in the first quarter is plus one twenty. So, like
you said, if they come out they get to have
a good script, they could potentially they could potentially get
on the board. And I like, we I don't know
if they're necessarily gonna have a lot of success stopping
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this Colts team, So hitting them three or more, I
wouldn't go seven or more. I cause again I don't
know if touchdowns are going to be a thing this game, right,
but that could be an interesting one to look at.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, anything else, any other picks that you see? I mean,
like I'm looking at the pass Like, let's look at
the passing props for Daniel Jones, obviously because we don't
have anything for for that. Do we want Daniel Jones
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shoot over two hundreds, like like over two and over
one and a half touchdown passes one thirty five? I
think that's that, you know, m Do we want to
go with the even money under one and a half
touchdown passes for Daniel Jones?
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, I mean that would be an interesting one because
they might be able to just run the ball so effectively.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
And then if you think, because Daniel Jones has thrown
two interceptions and three games in the car with the Cardinals,
he's only got two picks this year and they both
came against the Rams. But if you think the Cardinals
can force that one turnover over happened interceptions is also
plus money at plus one twenty five, So that's something
you might want to want to consider there.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Do they I don't use uh this one enough. They
don't have defensive props.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Do they on this They will late in the week.
They just don't have any right now.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
I'm going to say, if you can get sacked props
for the Colts, I would definitely take some.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah, yes, do that. Chobey Brissette will get sacked four
times probably, That's what I'm guessing. Yeah, And with that,
I'll wrap up this edition of The Residents Here podcast
Best of Cardinals Stocking Episode seven, seven oh eight.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
I don't know if I will have a third episode.
I haven't been able. I got initial contact with with
the Coltsky from Locked On, but they haven't heard back
from him after the initials thing. So maybe we'll have
a third show. Maybe not. If not, you've got our
show that'll take care of that. That's seth Cox. I'm
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com sp nation series go on a Cardinal's site and
Seth we it looks like that that fans a good chunk.
The fans are going to get their wish and the
Cardinals are going to play the Colts without Hyler Murray
as Murray is currently dealing with an injury hasn't practiced
through two days. I mean things could change Friday, but
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signs are pointing towards a Brissette reunion start in Indy.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, it should be exciting. I mean, we all love
we all love a good backup quarterback, right, and you know,
the last time the Cardinals had a decent backup quarterback
it was a gentleman, Andrew Stanton. But you know, that's
been fun.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I mean we could say that Colt McCoy was pretty
all right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, I mean he did fine, I got but yeah,
I mean fans love the backup, right, like that's how
that's how people like it, and that's what they like
to do. So we'll see how this goes this week
and what happens. But you know, so far, it's it's
been middle and interesting to see the reactions and how
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much better the offense is going to be now. So
I mean we can expect some type of explosion this week, right.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I mean sure, Let's consider this fact that the Colts
are number two in points scored, number four yards and
number three in points allowed. This is a beast of
a game. The Colts are way better than anyone expected,
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and Daniel Jones is having himself a season. Number three
in passing, doesn't have them like monster touchdown numbers. He
got six touchdowns in two interceptions. But you can add
to that he's rushed for three touchdowns himself. He has
only been sacked four times, so he's leading the league
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with the lowest sack percentage, a guy who has been
to gurious for getting sacked. The fact we'll talk about
that fact is the fact the Cardinals, in three games
against Daniel Jones, has sacked him seventeen times. Chandler Jones
had four sacks against him. Hassan Reddick had five sacks
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against him. He's thrown two interceptions and fumbled six times
against the Cardinals, but he is having a monster season
so far. The leaving New York trend continues that getting
out of New York and then remaking your courage, you
(03:35):
know Smith, Sam Darnold and now Daniel Jones. Apparently what
do you see from this Colts offense so far, which
is averaging nearly thirty three points a game.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You know, a lot of it just comes down to execution,
finding the guy that fits what the offense wants to do,
and then, like you said, there's a lot of times
that it's just you know, guy is that have that
resurgence and and fit into a scheme so much better
than other guys. Saying Shane Steichen, you know, has had
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success in the past, obviously with the Eagles, but you
look at it last year, you know they had Anthony
Richardson and Joe Flacco starting games that didn't really work out.
You know, the year before that they they were tenth
in scoring in the NFL, So not bad, but it
was you know, Gardner Minshew and and Anthony Richardson starting
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games and and so you know that makes it really
difficult to execute.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And so.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Sometimes operation sometimes it's it's you know, finding the right
guy in the right fit. You look at Steichen's offense
and and they've always been good in the yard, right,
I mean you look at it, uh, you know with
the with the Chargers, Uh he was fifth and ninth
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in points. With the Eagles, who was eighth and first
in points? And then and then he got to Indian
it was eighteenth and twenty third. Sorry I was yards,
not points. Excuse me. And and you're like, okay, well
this doesn't make any sense, like why is this offensive
guru not guruing our offense? But you know, just they
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didn't have the fit Anthony. They took a swing on
Anthony Richardson. It's always the age old question, right, like
whose call was that was? That was that Steichen's call.
Was that a call made by the management? Like, how
did that work out? That that a guy that had
never really had a lot of success in college but
had a lot of great physical attributes, uh, get picked
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fourth overall in the NFL draft.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And and.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You know that's maybe what was holding back Steichen the
whole time, because again this year, now they're fifth in
yards you mentioned at second in points if and again
we're barely a third of the way through the season, right,
if this was the hold, this would be the best
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scoring offense at least rankings wise in Steichen's coaching career.
You know, the highest they ever got with the Eagles
was third, being second this year obviously he's a little
step up from that. So it's just you know, it's
just interesting to see that it's a lot about fit, right,
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like something that we talk about all the time. A
lot of it's just about the fit of the coach
and the court. And you know, Daniel Jones has had
flashes previously, but he never been able to really do
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anything for a long period of time. I mean you
look at his career, you know, twenty four touchdowns, twelve
interceptions as a rookie, everybody was kind of like, Okay,
it's not bad, but then follows that up with eleven
touchdowns to ten interceptions. Ten touchdowns to seven interceptions, when's
the comeback player of the year gets the Giants to
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the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And he was really good that one year when Stable
really limited things, he started using his legs more. He
didn't turn the ball over. But other than that, he's
been a turnover machine. He's Sam Donald. He isn't easy,
basically a different version of Sam Donald.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, it was just a lot of turnovers. There was
a lot of low percentage passing. I mean in a
league where sixty five percent now kind of average for
completion percentage, she was, you know, sixty one, sixty two,
sixty four, and even as last year in New York
he was sixty three percent. A guy that you know
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had never thrown for over thirty two hundred yards in
a season, but even this year, you look at it,
I mean, a great start. And if I asked anybody,
and I do mean anybody, how many touchdowns Daniel Jones
was thrown for. And I told you he's thrown for
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the same amount of touchdowns as Kyler Murray, people would
be like no, there's no way. And so that's just it, right,
Like the NFL is is a lot of times a
team game, and you and I have talked about this
in a number of times, right, there's you know, I
say three to five. I think I saw Luke McCown
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the other day say five to seven elite quarterbacks, I
would say three to five.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Whatever, Yeah, I would agree if if you want to
push Justin Herbert into into that category, you get to five.
After that, it's like we've said before, it comes down
to what year is it?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What year is right, yeah, and so then you look
at it, right and it's and then six to twenty
are basically interchangeable, right, Like you're just like, see who's
see who's at the top of the heap this year?
And and I guess technically we could put Daniel Jones
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at the top of that heap this year, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's been really good.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But there's one thing this year, Jess that's kind of
stood out over everything else he's doing. And you brought
it up when you talked about his games against the Cardinals.
He's been sacked four times this year. So a guy
that took a lot of sacks every again, on pace
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for twelve sacks in a season.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
That's crazy, it's crazy. Well, and that's that's that's that's really, really, really,
I guess kind of the difference maker for him because
that that Polts offensive line has protected him well, they've
been healthy.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And then here's the other part to that that that
we haven't even mentioned yet is the fact that they
have the NFL's leading rusher in Jonathan Taylor. Four hundred
and eighty yards through five games, six touchdowns, six rushing touchdowns,
leads the NFL. His seventh old touchdowns lead the NFL.
He leads the NFL averaging ninety six yards per game.
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And so it starts with it starts with Jonathan Taylor
because like Jenel Jones's passing numbers are gaudy, but you
look at the individual receivers like they're leading receivers, they're
rookie tight end Tyler Warren. They're not getting massive production
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from one or two guys. And so you've got Tyler
Warren at at three hundred and seven rushing year receiving
yards through five games that over a seventeen game season
barely clears a thousand yards.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
What it looks like right now, because they've got They've
got Michael Pittman at two hundred and seventy three rushing
yards and then a bunch of guys. You've got Alec
Pearce with one seventy one, Josh Downs with one seventy five,
Jonathan Taylor, who remember, you know, couldn't catch the ball.
He's got one hundred and three to three rushing yards
receiving yards, and so that the game, the targets are
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going all over. I do want to say one thing
about the Colts of War that maybe just maybe there's
a little bit of fool's gold and what they've done
so far in terms of their scale. They're four and
one and they blew out the Dolphins. Dolphins are bad team.
They blew out the Titans better than the Cardinals did.
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They're a bad team. They blew out the Raiders. Raiders
are bad team. Against the Broncos, they sneaked away with
the twenty nine to twenty eight win. Now, I would
say so that that bodes well for them because this
fact that they could score twenty nine points on the
Broncos and then they lost twenty seven to twenty to
the Rams. The Rams, who have a really good who
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played at times like the best team in football and
have a defense that can shut them. Now they score
twenty on them. And so the two teams that you
would consider competitive or solid teams, I think with this
point we can firmly say that we're going to put
the Broncos and the Rams both a notch above the Cardinals.
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But both those games were one point win and a loss,
which means that they had what they have done so
far as the Colts have feasted on lesser opponents, which
is what the Cardinals were supposed to do but haven't.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, and that's really what it is, right, I mean,
you mentioned it, the teams they've beat, and this is
taking nothing away from them because they're doing it at
a better rate than the Cardinals are. Obviously, you know,
the teams that they've beat have three wins combined, and
the Raiders, the Titans. We obviously know the Raiders and
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you know, oh, I'm sorry, and then the Broncos. We
can say that the Broncos was a good win, right three, Yeah,
but they're also the Titan or the Broncos are a
very up and down team as well. They are like
you know, they they sneak one out against Tennessee. Then
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they they lose close ones to Indy and and l a.
They're kind of the Cardinals last year, right, like, other
than beating Philly, like they've they beat teams they're supposed
to beat, and then lose close ones to the teams
that are good. And so that's that's what that's about.
But we've talked about the Philly situation too. I don't
know if they're actually good this year, right, And and
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so you look at it. What they're doing though, is
impressive in the sense of, you know, their second end
points per game, they're third in points against. You know,
they're they're a top four team in our top five
team in yards and their top fifteen teams in the
yards against. And that's something that you and I talked
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about when it came to THEIRS and the Cardinals, you know,
and I saw a lot of people kind of lamenting
some things on the internets about you know, oh, this
the fourth rank scoring defense in the NFL. I'm like, yeah,
but that's kind of fools gold, right, Like they're twenty
first in yards given up this year, Like they they
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don't get a lot of stops, No, they they hold
teams to field goals or or they get leads and
then end up giving up you know, like we've talked
about these Nickel and Dime ten twelve play drives for
eighty plus yards late in games that teams you know,
it's feast or families either oh they score a touchdown
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or they turn it over on downs and you know,
it's worked to a point. And the difference with that
is when you're when you're playing against a team like
the Colts. They're decent in in not allowing yards. The
one game that they got kind of shredded was against
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the Los Angeles Rams. They didn't defend very well against
the Broncos either in that win, but that was a,
you know, again an interesting game. And the other thing
that they've done this year that you know, we talked
about all the time and how important things are, it's turnovers. Right,
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So the Colts have three turnovers on the season.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And they were all against.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
By the way, yeah, all against the team they lost to.
Isn't that kind of like speak volumes right like? And
and they forced eight turnovers. The Cardinals aren't bad and
they're not good, like they turn them all over six times.
They forced six turnovers.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And and we do have to note that one of
their takeaways was a turnover off of a turnover, right.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah. Well, also one of their takeaways resulted in a
touchdown for the other team.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That is that is true? That is true. One of
their take one of their takeaways, uh, turned into a
touchdown for the other team. And one of their takeaways
was is not even the defense on the field, It
was an interception that they fumbled back. Oh that's yeah.
But this hasn't been a clown show for the Cardinals
this year, really it has. It has been a couple
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a whole bunch of un unlikely things happening, and that's
that's bad.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So, you know, we'll see how this all kind of
comes to a head this week. Because you have a
team that's playing confidently with at a high level, and
then you have a team that's coming off what you know,
you and I described as probably the most embarrassing loss
at least of the last fifteen years. Yeah and so
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and so it's really a juxtaposition of where teams are at.
I guess the one good thing is that the cardinals
three losses are about by a combined five points, So
that's not too bad, right.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I mean that is like as bad as things are,
they are to two NFC West teams that are competitive
and the flukiest of fluke games you could ever have,
and so you know, it feels like this guy. The
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vibes were very bad in Arizona. There are no good
vibes here at all. But the record isn't as bad.
The outcome isn't as bad as how things feel, at
least now. A couple of things is that the Colts
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have a new kicker this week, as Spencer Strader, who
was leading the NFL in scoring and in field goals.
He's thirteen for fourteen on field goals this season. He's
out for the year. They signed Michael Badgely. Badly in
his career against the Cardinals has had one horrific game
and one game and he was part of the He
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was the kicker for the the Colts in their last
game against them in twenty twenty one on that Christmas
Day game. So it'll be Michael Badgeley, a guy who
was unemployed, which means good luck, like you don't know
what you're gonna get. That he might get hot like
Chad Ryland did or he might be an inconsistent mess. Defensively,
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they have fourteen sacks through the first five games. They
have is interesting. Laatu Latu a guy that we liked
come out of the draft last year that the Cardinals
passed on. He's not only got a sack, but a
pair of interceptions. They've picked off six passes. Cameron Bynum
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safety is having hum lf a good year already, two
interceptions so far, Kenny Moore return one for a touchdown.
But you've got three sacks from some Taekwon Lewis, a
couple from Samson Nebucam. Samson Abukam a guy that we
liked in terms of athleticism. Uh, You've got with the sack,
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and they're getting it from Unlike the Cardinals, who all
but two sacks come from Josh Sweat and Kalais Campbell.
Of the Colts, fourteen sacks come from eleven players combined,
so they're getting it done from all over. It is
much more of a team effort, and they've got good
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guys on the interior with Grover Stewart and DeForrest Buckner.
You've got a really good linebacker in Zire Franklin. You
get solid edge presents and quit it pay Taekwon lewis
having a good year life. So they've got a very
good rotation of of edge rushers and lou An Arumo,
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who became like remember how the hot name that lou
An Arumo was. He was supposed to he was in
line for Cardinal's job. He was doing great work in Cincinnati,
and then when Cincinnati's defense turned to poop, he finds
himself u in Indianapolis with a you know, a team
that is performing quite well defensively.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, and you know, now we'll see how this all
looks coming up and what the plan is, you know,
to really help this team get back on track because
the reality of the situation is that, you know, you
are at a crossroads just in terms of you can't
go into the by two and five, like that's just
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that's a death now for a season. You need to
steal a win in one of these games. And now
with Jaccobriuberssett you know kind of slated to start. It's
still Thursday. Kyler's meant both practices this week, so it's
we have a feeling that Jacoby's slated to start, but
you know, we can't confirm that right, Like, it's not
an official I.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Believe Kyler's played without practicing before, but I'm not sure
if that's been the case under Jonathan Gannon.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And so, you know, you just look at it from
that perspective. And this is one of those situations where
it's easy to make an excuse for being two and
five with these next two games.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But they can the season won't survive it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
The season won't survive it. And based on how you
lost the last three games, you really have no room
for excuses at this point because as as much as
we can say they could be five and oh, they
could be zero and five as well.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Like, yes, yes they could because it took it took
Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson breaking up a pass in
the end zone and they almost lost that Panthers game
in crazy fashion as well. So uh, maybe maybe crazy
will go in their faith. Like, honestly, as we'll talk about,
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I think the only way the Cardinals can win this
game is crazy happens in their direction.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, that's always not a fun.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
You have to bank on. Crea come to an extend
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that matter in this game against the Colts. I think, what, obviously,
when you have the league's leading rusher, you have to
limit him, now shut him down. I mean, the Cardinals
did a pretty dang good job against Chrishman McCaffrey overall,
that was one of mac Wilson's best games that we've seen.
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But well, McCaffrey still ended up making plays when he
needed to. So I think number one is that they
need to keep Taylor's explosives away, like keep his gains
to two to five yards and don't let them rip
off the the big runs because he's as much as
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good as he is. Not only is he efficient, he
is also explosive, and those plays will be what would
be what kind of takes the heart out of the
Cardinals defense. And you know, for the most part, defensively,
they've they've been a good way. I saw this for
me at Kimes. They were there number one in defensive
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EPA through the first three quarters and dropped to twenty
seventh in the fourth quarter. That is the weirdest thing
I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, and I mean it's just and what people don't
get about EPA is it's not like it's not like
simple things like you know, how many plays they see
or things like that, Like it's a formula based on
like expected points, and they're expected points going up that much.
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People are like, oh, it's because they're on the field
so much. It's like, but they're not right. They're on
the field because they they're off like they're not getting
a stop. And that's something you and I have highlighted.
I mean, the conversation, it is what it is at
this point. But you know you mentioned you mentioned stopping
Jonathan Taylor. Right, think about this, Jess. In three games,
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Jonathan Taylor has has had a let's just call it
for easy math sake, two hundred and two hundred yards
in three games. It's I think it's like two o seven,
but two hundred yards and three games. And then in
two games he's got two hundred and sixty seven yards rushing.
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So the thing with Jonathan Taylor is exactly what you said.
If you're keeping them in that his long run range
in that twenty yards, right, like his longest run of
the of the day's twenty yards, you're containing him for
the most part. I mean the three games three point
nine four point five to three point nine yards.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And his long for those games were twelve, fifteen and sixteen.
His two big games is two hundred yard plus ones.
He had a forty six against Tennessee and he had
a sixty eight against den Denver.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, and then, but it also corresponds to receiving. I
mean against Tennessee they didn't need him in that way,
but you look at it. He had two catches for
fifty yards against against Denver, one of those catches was
for forty three yards like a and a touchdown Like
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that's that's what you need to stop. Like you cannot have,
like you said, you can't have explosive plays for this guy,
because when he does, you their offense, that's when their
offense is at its best because then they're able to
go play action. Then they're able to I mean, you
know Shane Stitch and isn't a direct you know, relation
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to Drew Petsing, but they have similar offensive philosophies and usages.
And that's why they needed Tyler Warren so bad for
this offense to really start to take off. Because you
mentioned it. It's not like it's not like they're just
you know, throwing the air and the ball out all
over the field to a bunch of wide receivers. Right,
Tyler Warren's their guy in the in a similar vein
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to how uh Prayman Pride is the Cardinals guy. So
it's it's an offense that's based on, you know, getting
the ball too, and.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
They are throwing the ball relatively a lot, but that's
because they have the ball a lot. They they Daniel
Jones is ever they averaging thirty throw it through three
pass attempts. Again, but when you are number four in
the yards, that means you are on the field a
lot in they average six point eight plays per drive
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and so yeah, they're they've been very good. Just overall,
they've been really good.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, And so that that's one thing. The second thing
is you again you mentioned it, but how do you
how do you slow down a pass rush that comes
from everywhere? Right? I mean we talked about it fourteen
sacks on the season. I think when you say seven
different guys have sax eleven eleven different guy. Meanwhile, the
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Cardinals we've talked about ten sacks from four guys. That's
don't get me wrong. We appreciate Joshuwatt and Class Campbell's
it's good, but that's not that's not great. And I
see people hyping up like, oh, look at the pressures,
Look at the pressures.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It's like, how is how are those pressures if impacting
the passing game? But they are terrible against the pass.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Right and so you know, that's one of the things
that we'll have to watch because you mentioned it. You know,
they just they're not doing a great job getting after
the passer. They're not doing a great job of creating
negative plays, especially late in games. So it'll be interesting.
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You know, you and I've talked about it. You talked
about getting off the field. How important that is the
time of possession. The Cardinals have a twenty three second
time of possession advantage. The problem is the drive, the
number of plays the opposition runs a half of play
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more per game or per drive, excuse me, and then
averages four yards more per like That's what the issue
becomes it's not it's not about the EPA in the
sense of like, oh they can't you know, they're not
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getting stops or this or that. It's that they just
the death by a thousand cuts is a real I mean,
it's legitimate with this group, and it is as a fan,
right like, oh man, it's tough, tough, tough to watch
sometimes because you're like, this is dreadful, man.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And then and then they will always it's death by
a thousand cuts. They're like, don't give anything. But every
every game in the fourth quarter, there is a big
play that happens in a critical in a critical series
that the you know, you're keeping them the short, short, short, short,
and then you get a thirty eight to Jackson Smith
in check, but you give up a forty five to
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to Calvin Ridley. H you know, you give something up
to to Ricky Piersall or or whoever it is. It's
Joe John's they they're not only are they not good
about getting off the field, they're also giving up big
plays in bad moments.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, and we talked about the Calvin Ridley you know,
fourth quarter, how bad that was. It must have been
from exhaustion, because I mean, they just played so much
and must have been so exhausted.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
That they had almost an equal number of snaps in
that game offensively and defensively. It's like, I don't like,
they're gas. No, they're not gas. The other reason they're
gases because they're not coming off of the field because
the offense is playing just as much. The offense is
playing just as much. It's just they're not getting off
the field. Blah blah blah. Yeah. I think one of
the key things is going to be if you can
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force kicks, put the pressure on Michael Badgely because Trader's
been automatic this year. Badgely is going to be with
a new battery of specialists, and then yeah, it's gonna
be It's gonna be interesting. How do they how do
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they limit or how do they keep Tyler Warren from
moving the chains? I want to see I want to
see this week for the Cardinals. What's the play? Can
we get Will Hernandez in there for a full game?
And is Evan Brown gonna be back in the lineup?
And if Evan Brown is back in the line does
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that mean that Will Hernandez has officially replaced Isaiah Adams
or if because what was really unfortunate for I know
he was on a snap count was I would have
liked him to have rotated like they've done with their
guards before. But he played what twenty three snaps and
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maybe that was all they wanted to play and he
got him in the first three series, didn't come in again.
It would have, you know, had he played two series
one off, one on, one off, one on, and that
way you get some impact because the difference between when
he was in the game and when he wasn't in
the game was was stark. And when you've got the
the defensive interior guys that the Colts have, you need
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a healthy Evan Brown and you need Will Hernandez in
because you've got you've got DeForest Buckner, you've got Grover Stewart,
you've got Neville Gallimore. They have some good guys in
that interior. And yeah, and we really we desperately need
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that that the offensive line interior to be better than
they've been. And it looked about as good have we've
seen them when the Will was in the game.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Oh yeah, you know that's their strength. And you know,
we can pick on Isaiah Adams as much as we want,
but the reality is he's been a disappointment this year.
And that's putting it mildly.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeldis Evan's been worse, Yelled has been worse, and Isaiah
Adams has been far from good.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, and so it just makes it difficult. And you know,
we've talked about the the running game. I mean, the
reality is that Tyler's your best runner and now he's out.
And so you got to know Michael and Michael Carter,
who you know is averaging two point seven yards per carry,
and Mri de Mercado who has one good run, you know,
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and his other six carries are for nineteen yards eighteen
yards excuse me, And so you know he's averaging three
years carry out side of his seventy one yard fumble run.
And so those are all I mean, it's it's been
a devast stating year for the run game. And so
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you you mentioned it, you know, when you when you
talk about the Colts and what they've done this year,
their run defenses is slightly above average. It's not bad,
it's not good. Their yards per attempt allowed is four
point five, so again they're not they're not exactly killing it.
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In the stopping the run department. But the Cardinals are
being killed and being able to run the ball, and
now you have no Kyler Murray to help with the
wrung game.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
You have.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Obviously no James Connor, you have no Trey Benson, and
the guys that have replaced them have been mostly terrible,
if not completely terrible. And that's not a shot at
Carter and de Mercado. That's that's just the reality. So
you know, the that is a matchup to watch because
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if you go into this game and you're saying, like Heydria, Kobe,
we need you to win us a game, you probably
already lost, right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, I mean, let Jakob Prissette's record as a starter
is nineteen and thirty four. And while he had as
an NFL record low one point six percent touchdown I
mean interception percentage, he also in what is it thirty,
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has thirty one career touchdowns. I gotta pull that up.
I was, I was just citing that to you.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
He has.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Fifty three career touchdown passes in fifty in eighty nine games. Now,
a lot of those are but he's fifty three touchdown
passes and he has fifty three starts. I know some
of those touchdown passes have come in relief. You know,
stepping in is one point four percent interception percentage interception rate.
He just doesn't produce passing touchdowns. And maybe the short
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passing game will be more effective. Maybe we'll see a
little bit more of the get like when Colton Koy
was in the game for in the Cliff Kingsbury Days
and he get the ball out, ball out, ball out,
ball out. And but I get the feeling that if
this game goes like it could, like Brissett is a
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guy who if you are on schedule and playing as
with a tire or lead, you can win a close game.
But here, there's no way in the world he's going
to be able to bring you back from down multiple scores.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Right, And that's just the reality. I mean, you look
at his career and again it's nothing against Jakoby Brissette,
but I mean as a starter, it's been you know,
it's been ugly. He's he's nineteen and thirty four as
a starter overall. You mentioned, you know, fifty three touchdowns
to twenty four interceptions in fifty three starts. He doesn't
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turn the ball over. He's a consonant backup, like he's
the ideal backupquarterback. And you know, he's got one year
where he was almost five hundred seven and eight with
these Indianapolis Colts, but that was a lifetime ago, basically
in twenty nineteen, and since then he's been basically that
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guy that you mentioned with those stats. I mean, a
guy that takes care of the ball, doesn't turn the
ball over. I mean, it's just it hasn't been it
hasn't been pretty, and it's it sacked a lot because
he's not a mobile guy by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, he was stacked eighteen times in five games last year.
Remember now, remember when he was with the Patriots last year.
The goal that he was He entered that year as
a starter and the absolute goal was to have him
to start as long as he could until Drake May
was ready. And he was. He was benched fairly quickly.
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He lasted five games. And here were the offensive totals
for the cult for the Patriots in the five games
that he started last year, sixteen points, twenty three, thirteen ten.
He had oh is it two touchdown passes in five games. Right,
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That's that he's gonna have to be like, they're gonna
have to do more. I don't know how they're gonna
do it, but they're gonna have to do more. He's
going to have to do more because what he won't
be able to do is to create out of nothing,
Like if pressure comes, he's gonna have to get rid
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of the ball because he doesn't have this capability, the
escapability that Kyler does.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Right, And so we'll see how this goes this week.
But those are the I mean, those are the matchups
to watch. I guess the last one would be, you know,
Will Johnson against Michael Pittman, who's their top you know,
receiving threat. But we talked about it. It's really it's
really who's going to slow down Tyler Warren, Yes, And
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we don't know how they're gonna come back that or
who they're gonna throw them. I'm assuming it'll be a
audrey of guys, right, It'll be a King Davis Gaither,
It'll be Mac Wilson, it'll be Buddha Baker, it'll be
Jalen Thompson, it'll be Rabbit a little bit. Hell. You
might even see you know, reps with Max or Will
on him. Right, like, depending on the situation and where
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he aligns, so they just they have to slow down that.
But the matchups are pretty straightforward, right the Cardinals offensive
line versus a stellar Colts front and can the Cardinals
find a way to keep Jonathan Taylor from making explosive plays?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
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the props that would be worth making plays on. And
my initial reaction, my gut reaction, is when when the
Cardinals turned gave the ball back and I remember tweeting
they're gonna lose, that they're gonna lose this game on
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a last second field goal and then they're gonna get
smoked by their Colts. I don't know if it's gonna
be smoked, but it very well could be. I don't
think this will be a super competitive game. I think
the Cardinals are gonna be playing from probably ten points
down most of the game. I'm I'm gonna say the
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Colts win this game twenty seven six. The car will
only get one touchdown and the rest are our field goals.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, I was gonna say twenty seven to thirteen. So
I'm right there with you. You know. The interesting thing
to me are a couple of the lines that we've seen.
We talked about Jonathan Taylor. His line is actually reasonable
at eighty nine and a half. By the way, everything's
on bet MGM this week. Fandel has nothing to offer
as of this moment from player prop standpoints, so don't
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go there. The other thing is Jess and I are
both on the under. It's right now on bet MGM.
It's forty seven, Fandel, it's forty six and a half,
So both on the under. Don't see this unless it's
all cult right, unless it's another forty to thirteen that.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
They could be. It could be, it could end up
being being. Yeah, it could be a thirty seven thirteen
type game. And the line has actually moved a little
bit more because it was a six and a half
point spread to start the week, it's pushed all the
way to seven, and then I think that's the the
Jacoby Brissett effect.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Is.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
But that extra that extra point, that extra half point
that gives you the possibility of a push, because we
kind of feel this is going to be at least
a one score game, but if it can be eight,
Like at six and a half, you're like, oh yeah,
oh yeah, definitely Colts. At seven, you're like, if it
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pushes to seven. So personally, I think the Colts easily
cover this game. Yeah, I agree that said, if you
if you feel good about the Cardinals, if you feel
good about the Cardinals playing better, coming back and responding, okay,
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you might take an alternate spread at plus seven Cardinals
plus seven and a half at minus one thirty. I
wouldn't do it, but I can see why someone would
because they've lost three close games right in a row. Now,
granted with Kyler, they they're all locked in. They could
pull an up and I think I think they could
pull an upstet, but this this Colts offense is too
(44:10):
good and the Cardinals are going to have to play
an ugly game. Like we keep saying this, the Cardinals
have to play an ugly game for this game to
stay close. So if you think the Cardinals can be competitive,
take that alternate spread plus seven and a half. It's
not great odds, but it's not terrible at minus one thirty.
(44:31):
But yeah, I do like the under in this game
simply because I don't think the Cardinals are going to
I think the Cardinals defensively will be okay, but I
think more than anything, I think they're going to struggle offensively.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, I would agree with that, since then they've struggled
offensively any ways, and now they're downgrading at the quarterback position.
Let me ask you about this line. Are these these
rushing lines? Like I said, Jonathan Taylor's makes sense, it's
eighty nine and a half ninety six a game. Michael
Carter's is forty six and a half. Am I missing something?
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Well, didn't he have? We didn't have fifty one in
the game against the Titans. Let me, I think that's
the I think he had thirteen for fifty one. Yeah,
he had eighteen for fifty one in that game, so
he's getting he's getting though, But granted that was also
when they were playing from ahead, so they ran the
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ball a lot. Eighteen carries for Michael Carter is a lot,
and so I guess what they are seeing is that
he's gonna get fifteen carries, right, But he's average.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I mean he's averaging less than three yards of I'm
not disagreeing, but I mean his long on the season seven,
he's averaging less than three yards of carry and he's
going up against a team that's gonna play from ahead
this week. Yeah. I do like the.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
It's the longest run USh never mind, I thought that
was I thought that was rushing attempts. If you're like
twelve and a half rushing attempts, Yeah, I take that one.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
I do like Daniel Jones over sixteen and a half.
He's going to break free for He's going to break
free for a couple I think like that for Daniel
Jones over sixteen and a half rushing yards for minus
one ten.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Do you like the over for Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah? I would. I mean eighty nine and a half.
I think he's right around one hundred yards. The question
becomes is it an effective one hundred yards or is
it a grind out one yeah yard. If it's a
grind out, then it's a good thing. For the Cardinals, right,
it's it's only bad if it's if it's you know,
one hundred yards on on on twelve carries or one
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hundred plus yards on you know, twenty carries, and he's
in that one forty one fifty range that he's been
a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
If you if you're not sure about the rushing yards,
just as you've get the same money on the combined
rushing and receiving yards minus won fifteen for over one
twelve and a half. I think i'd lean for that
one rather than just the rushing.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, I agree with that because that that was the
first thing I opened up, by the way, when I
saw Michael Carter sixty four and a half and.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I was like, although, although I did tell you guys
to take over two and a half receptions on Michael
Carter last week, and that one, that one cast guys,
that one was good because he ended up what was it,
five receptions in that game, because like, he's the checkdown
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he's a checkdown option, and Dorts just missed. Dorts just missed.
I had over two and a half, although I can't
remember he had one at that point of like if
he was over one and a half or over two
and a half. He finished with two, So if you
got him at one and a half, you you cast
in that one, now, ah the okay, Trey McBride sixty.
(48:00):
I don't know what to think about the receiving props
for the Cardinals, Okay, I'll do this. Michael Carter over
fourteen and a half receiving yards. I think that one's
that one's a lock.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, I would agree with that, but after that, I am.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Not confident at all. Would you? Would you say? And
we don't guess what, we don't have any good odds
in this game? Oh oh, never mind kicking props. Lock
it in. Chad Ryland over one and a half field
goals made at plus one ten Take that, Take that one,
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Chad Ryland two field goals. That seems like that's easy
of plus money exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
That's that's where you feel like they're going to be
able to get something done. Team touchdowns is an interesting
one because the Cardinals first half touchdown totals over over
a half and that's minus two hundred. Do you think
they score the first half? Because if not getting that
at plus one fifty four could score a touchdown, I
should say, getting that at plus one fifty four is
(49:09):
actually a decent value.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yeah, I like, I think so, I think so maybe
that first drive will be scripted well, like remember remember
how the Cardinals like for the first two seasons, You're like, oh,
their money for her first drive touchdown and then they
went eight games like last week was their first opening
drive touchdown in half a season. Maybe it will look
(49:38):
better because they'll have something different for Jacoby. I don't know. Yeah,
all right, first though, ooh, I like I like the Colts.
I like the Colts first line, first line spread, first
half spread at minus four and a half. I think
(49:59):
that one's yeah, I like that one. So Colts minus
four and a half first half spread.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, I would agree with that one. And and you
know it's this is a this is a tough game
overall to look at, you know. I The other one
when you look at it that is interesting is you
can get both teams to score three or more points
(50:30):
in the first quarter is plus one twenty. So, like
you said, if they come out they get to have
a good script, they could potentially they could potentially get
on the board. And I like, we I don't know
if they're necessarily gonna have a lot of success stopping
(50:51):
this Colts team, So hitting them three or more, I
wouldn't go seven or more. I cause again I don't
know if touchdowns are going to be a thing this game, right,
but that could be an interesting one to look at.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, anything else, any other picks that you see? I mean,
like I'm looking at the pass Like, let's look at
the passing props for Daniel Jones, obviously because we don't
have anything for for that. Do we want Daniel Jones
(51:28):
shoot over two hundreds, like like over two and over
one and a half touchdown passes one thirty five? I
think that's that, you know, m Do we want to
go with the even money under one and a half
touchdown passes for Daniel Jones?
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, I mean that would be an interesting one because
they might be able to just run the ball so effectively.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
And then if you think, because Daniel Jones has thrown
two interceptions and three games in the car with the Cardinals,
he's only got two picks this year and they both
came against the Rams. But if you think the Cardinals
can force that one turnover over happened interceptions is also
plus money at plus one twenty five, So that's something
you might want to want to consider there.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Do they I don't use uh this one enough. They
don't have defensive props.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Do they on this They will late in the week.
They just don't have any right now.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
I'm going to say, if you can get sacked props
for the Colts, I would definitely take some.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah, yes, do that. Chobey Brissette will get sacked four
times probably, That's what I'm guessing. Yeah, And with that,
I'll wrap up this edition of The Residents Here podcast
Best of Cardinals Stocking Episode seven, seven oh eight.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
I don't know if I will have a third episode.
I haven't been able. I got initial contact with with
the Coltsky from Locked On, but they haven't heard back
from him after the initials thing. So maybe we'll have
a third show. Maybe not. If not, you've got our
show that'll take care of that. That's seth Cox. I'm
just rute. Thanks for listening. As always, we'll be back
again soon. Thanks for listening to the latest edition of
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