October 16, 2025 • 31 mins
The Cardinals return home in Week 7 to play the Packers for the second year in a row. Packers Wire writer Mark Oldacres joins Jess on the show to preview the game, talking about the Packers' season so far, keys and matchups for the game and picks and predictions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Hello, Arizona Cardinals fans, and welcome to the latest edition
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You is hey, Today's NFL war site. It is episode
seven hundred and ten. It is the first two preview
shows for week seven. Is the Cardinals take on the
Green Bay Packers at Home this weekend at four to
twenty five pm Easter one, five pm locally here in Arizona.
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Uh not. This is our pun a preview show, so
to do so, bringing back on a man who joined
me in the off season from many hours away. It
is actually very early in the morning for me. Mark
Oldacres from Packers Wire joins me once again. Mark, Thank
you so much for taking some time to join me
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on the shows. Is as we get round two of
Cardinals Versus Packers a year later?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, it's only been a year. Since the last last game.
I was watching just to get kind of refreshed on
how that game went. I couldn't really remember like too
much of it, so I had to go back. It
was and rewatch that one.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
There wasn't much for the Cardinals to see. Yeah down,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah that was that was not not the Cardinals' finest,
finest game last year.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But now good to talk to you again Week seven.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I can't believe we're already kind of getting towards the
midway point of the season. So looking forward to this
week's game, I think it's going to be an interesting one.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
And while the Cardinals are, this is their last game
before the bye. The Packers had a very early pie.
They had a bye week in Week five. They come
back out of the break to beat the Cincinnati Bengals
twenty seven to eighteen. Packers fans probably fine with the win,
but against that Packers team after that, against that Bengals team,
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they probably expected a bit more. Nonetheless, what we have
is a three, one and one Packers team that ranks
ninth in total offense, in fifth in total defense, that's
in yards, eighth in point score, tenth in points allowed,
and that they are sitting currently atop the NFC North
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after Detroit lost to the Chiefs, And so, how does
it feel to sit atop the NFC North.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
It feels good.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It feels strange, not because it's been a while, but
in terms of sitting top with a tie.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know, the tie always feels really really.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Strange when it happens, and then you kind of don't
know whether it's good for you or bad for you.
I feel like till the end of the season, you know,
it could be a help and it could be a hindrance,
and so far it's a help having only the one
loss and the Lions been being foreign too to be
to be kind of, you know, top of the NFC North.
So I think it was that was kind of the
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goal this year for this team. There's no doubt, especially
after you know, since we last spoke, they make the
big trade of course for the Parsons, and that, you know,
really wrapchets up the expectation levels to kind of win.
Winning the NFC North is kind of the bare minimum
I think expectation this year. So it's good to be good,
be good to be up there this early in the season.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, So tell me, tell me about the Since Micah
Parsons are rap, what have the Packers gotten from him
so far? Statistically he is second on the team in
sacks behind your Shawn Garris four and a half h
He has eight quarterback hits to Rashaan Garys nine. What
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has been his impact so far? And is the tree
paying dividends thus far?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, I think absolutely it is.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I think I think it was kind of one of
those things where in the aftermath of a trade like that,
there's there's kind of a natural want to kind of think,
how could this almost go badly? And then you kind
of have to sit back and think, it's Michael Parsons,
this isn't this isn't going to be bad. And Yeah,
like you say, he only only has the two and
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a half sacks so far, which is not first on
the team. But I think that the impact that he's
had is is tremendous, and I think the knock on
effect that his presence alone has on the entire defense
and on the rest of the front, especially Rashan Gary
didn't have his best his best year last year is
sacked turtles relatively low, So to already be at four
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and a half, you could already see kind of like
the the presence that Parsons has, the attention that he draws,
and how that's freed up other guys to get sacked.
Lucas fan So, former first round pick who was veering
towards kind of looking like a bus territory, has started
to look like a player. He's getting more one on
one opportunities and he's making the most of them. So
I think it's just been he's kind of slotted every
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other pass rush that the Packers have into sort of
their rightful place, and it's just lifted the entire defense
kind of to a new level.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I think let's let's turn to the offense for a bit.
Tell us how how it has been thus far. Josh
Jacobs pretty has not been, let's say, the the big
player He's He's been a little less efficient this year
at three point seven yards precurate, but does have six
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touchdowns through five games. What has been the case and
Jordan Love looks looks so far statistically? What has been
the story offensively for both Jordan Love and for Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, I think let's start with Jacobs.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I think with the you're right to say, absolutely hasn't
been as efficient this year, and this is something that
kind of coming to the season I did look into
and kind of identify a little bit that Josh Jacobs
last year routinely on a week to week basis, was
making magic when there was nothing there. He was really
defying and getting more than was blocked for him. And
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the Packers run blocking unit did not grade out particularly
well last year, and traditionally they haven't done. The kind
of organizational philosophy seems to be that, you know their
offensive alignment, they want pass blockers, which is obviously what's
making you more money and what is more valuable ultimately,
and then the run blocking is kind of secondary, and
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they rely on the scheme and the running back to
kind of create that. Jacobs did that to such an
extent last year that I did think, and he also
carried the ball so much last year that there was
always an it was always unrealistic to expect him to
do exactly the same thing this year and create to
that level on his own. And they did make attempts,
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to the Packer's credit, to improve the offensive line or
keep adding to the offensive line and keep that kind
of stocked. In the off season, they spent big money
in free agency, and they spent a second round pick. Unfortunately,
what's been the case is, since I believe the first
quarter or the second quarter of Week one until last
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week's game against the Bengals, their ideal offensive line was
not available.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Zach tom who's their best offensive lineman right tackle, they
just paid.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
He got injured in the Lions game, an oblique injury,
which he's now playing through. He remarked after the last
game that he didn't remember anything in the second half
because he was in so much pain.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So that's that's what's Oh, that does not sound good.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, So that's that's what's going on there. So and
that's been the case. They've been shuffling around. They've had
to shuffle mid game. Sometimes it's gone well, sometimes it hasn't.
But I think what's really suffered is kind of the
there hasn't been much to work with for Jacobs. On
the Jordan Love side of things, that protection in general
has been much better. Jordan Love, i think, has picked
back up right where he was at the end of
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the twenty twenty three season before kind of the twenty
twenty four was injury stricken the entire year with different
injuries and it really impacted him, especially in his mobility.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
He could really see that.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Already this season he's had several big players on the
ground where he's picked up key first downs on down
that he just couldn't have done last year. And he
looks back to that end of twenty twenty three form,
I think he at this point he seems to make
one kind of big, big wrong decision. Again that looks
when Jordan Love makes a mistake. He doesn't make that many,
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but when he makes them, they look like the most
ridiculous decision you've ever seen. So I think that doesn't
lend itself. And also he doesn't put up kind of
the Gordy numbers in terms of like the counting stats
because of how balance the offense is. But I think
the way he's been playing and operate in this offense
is a borderline MVP candidate level. I think he's been
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a top top five or six quarterback in the league
this year in what's been a weird year. Already at quarterback,
without question, I think he's he looks completely in control.
And this is kind of what Pakistan's have been to
say from eleven, and it's happening so far.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, you know, not already having the buye is putting
him behind it in statistically, but in perspective, the Packers
have over twelve hundred and fifty nine. They've got twelve
hundred and fifty nine total passing yards this season, and
from Jordan Love that's in five games. The Cardinals have
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twelve eighty two in six games. If you look at
the Cardinals, They're passing production comes by and large so
of there of there are one hundred and thirty seven receptions,
fifty nine of them come from Trey mcbriden in Marvin
Harrison Junior. The Packers don't have anyone more with more
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than eighteen receptions. That's Romeo Dobbs in Tucker craft type
of craft. What what? What has been the story in
the in the with the past catchers this year.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
It's the same story that it's been for the last
two years. And everyone thought it might change, and it
hasn't changed. It's been the same thing and it is.
It's an equal opportunities offense and that is what they run.
And Matt Laflow has made it very clear that that
is a conscious choice that they want to run the
offense that way. In that the defense doesn't know who's
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going to be the target. They can't hone in on
any one player, and they trust that they have interchangeable
players who can play different roles and get the job
done ultimately as a collective, and that the offense puts
up enough points that and enough yardage that therefore there's
kind of enough to go around.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And that has been the case again.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I mean Matthew Golden, that was the big rookie first
round pick who everybody thought, Okay, is this going to
be you know, we haven't seen Matt lafloor with a
first round pick wide receiver. What's that going to look like?
And it's basically looks like the rest of the wide receivers,
which is he has played, he's played very well, and
he's coming along each week, which is obviously what you
will to see for a rookie.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
He had his highest.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yardage total in a game last week against Cincinnati's eighty
six yards. And he's made some crucial, crucial players in
the last In the last couple of games, he made
a big fourth down conversion against the Cowboys and then
two big third down conversions which were thirty plus yard
players against the Bengals. So he's certainly good enough to be,
and so are several players in this offense good enough
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to Tucker Craft could have the usage in another offense
of a Tray McBride, like he is that talented, but
it's just not the way they run their offense, and
it doesn't seem like they want to change it.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
The Packers up the season with a pair of good
wins twenty seven to thirteen over the Lions, twenty seven
to eighteen over the Commanders. In fact, in all three
of their wins they have scored exactly twenty seven points.
Then you've got the weird thirteen to ten loss to
the Browns and that I mean wild Sunday night game
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where it ends in a forty to forty tie with
the Cowboys Brandon Aubrey kicking a game tying field goal
as overtime expired. What has been the best part of
the Packers season so far? And can you explain the
Browns game? Because that doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, I'm really so, I do.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I am going to struggle to explain that one thinking
back actually saw it like pop up, I think yesterday
they're just looking at like the records of the teams
and the Browns have one win and it was against
the Packets, and I just I just don't understand how
that how that happened. Yeah, I think the best parts
have been I think it's it's probably been the defense
and the dominant stretches that it that it's had.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I think.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
There's been situations where in the last couple of games,
they they've allowed probably more points than they wanted to.
They only allowed eighteen points against against the but it
was a Joe Flacker led Bengals offense, and for the
first half they completely suffocated them. And that has kind
of been a bit of the trend with the defenses.
The first half they've completely shut the opposing offense down,
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and then in the second half they've they've kind of
started to move the ball and put out points. In
the early games of the season, that was in garbage time.
It was completely in garbage time and you didn't really
worry about it. But then against the Cowboys and against
the Bengals, the whole second half they really kind of
struggled to turn the tide back the other way. I
think part of that has been that they just haven't
had much turnover luck, so far, they've only they've only
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taken the ball away twice, which this team took the
ball away at ridiculous rate last year, So you would
think that will probably regress to the middle and they
will probably be look even better than they have. But
I'd said the defense is probably the strength of the team,
while the offense is kind of looks really really really
good in stretches, and then we'll go a couple of
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drives where they kind of stuck their tail a little bit.
But yeah, and the Brown, I mean, the Browns game
was again that's the case with the Brown The defense
completely shut the Browns down, as you would have expected,
and all the Packers had to do was essentially play
a clean game, which they did until late in the
fourth quarter when they were up I think they were
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up ten to three still at this point, and had
the ball and Love throws a silly interception, They return
it to the five yard line, they score a touchdown.
From there, Packers have a chance still to go and
redeem it, and they get a field goal blocked, which
has been an issue special teams has been an issue.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Always is in the NFL. This year, so many last
field goals.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, it's insane, and the Packers have with you know,
they the special teams has been like the kind of
the thing you don't want to talk about for the
for a while. Which if you're going to have something
you don't want to talk about special teams, it's probably
not bad. But in that situation, I think if you
look back really at the Cowboy was on the Browns games,
I think you can make a very very strong argument
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that the Packers, kind of on the general balance of
down to down play, should have walked away easily with
those wins and should be sort of at five another
but that's not how football works, and they shot themselves
in the foot.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Coming on next on the Reces of Secret podcast, If
a Star Cardinals Talking the Web. Let's talk about the
Cardinals Packers that matchup coming up this weekend. It's coming
to next on recips he read We're back on the
Rest of Secret podcast, Best of Cardinals Talk on the
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talking about the Packers Cardinals game coming up this weekend.
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As you look at the game this weekend, what do
you think will be the most important part of this
game that will determine who wins and who will loses?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Well, I think obviously they kind of unignorable. Fu's question
is is kind of who's playing quarterback for the for
the Cardinals?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Is it? Is it going to be Carla Murray?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I know he was estimated as limited in practice yesterday
in what was a walk through?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Or is it going to be Brisset?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
And obviously the offense look pretty good with Brissett last week,
so it's kind of I don't think you could get
two more opposite quarterbacks. So it does make it kind
of difficult defensively for the Packers to kind of plan
and they'll need to, you know, switch tacked very quickly
depending on who on who is playing quarterback. I think
what really stood out just watching the Cardinals game from
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last week against the Colts where they were able to
have success as I thought they protected Brissett really really
well throughout the game. I think his average time to
throws was well over three seconds, and when he was
given time off play action to just kind of stand
in there and survey the field, he was able to
he can still rip pass it and was able to
do that and pick up big chance of yardage and
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the run game seemed fairly efficient as well, even without
James Knor, without Trade Benson. So I think that's obviously
kind of where it starts. I think I think there's
a lot of a lot of elements also on the
other side of the ball when the Packers have the
ball that I think the Cardinals defenses is so interchangeable
and kind of, you know, unique in a way that
I think I think this game is a lot going
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to come down to the play callers and the scheme
on both sides of the ball and kind of who
outsmarts her more than anything else.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, and if that's the case, that's bad news for
the Cardinals, because the fourth quarter has been abysmal, absolutely
abysmal for the Cardinals so far this year, both especially
on defense. They've been really bad in the fourth quarter defensively. Personally,
I think Brissett will probably get the start. I don't
think they're gonna rest like They're not like sitting Kyler
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Murray just to give Brissette a couple of starts. That
mid midfoot spring that's tricky. That's a tricky injury. And
kind of the interesting things is they have had a
lot of injuries. They had to walk through yesterday, so
the media couldn't see what Murray was doing because it
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was close to the media, and so we'll see with that,
you know. Looking at Josh Jacob's individual game totals, obviously
the Cleveland game stands out for the lack of efficiency,
though last week against Cincinnati, he had his first game
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average of more than four yards to carry at ninety
three yards two touchdowns, and also added another five catches
for fifty seven yards, so he the last two games
he's surpassed one hundred and fifty scrimmage yards. And the
Cardinals are coming off a game where they gave up
one hundred and twenty three yards to Josh Taylor. In
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Week five, they allowed sixty seven yards in a touchdown
to Troy Pollard, and then on top of that in
week four against the forty nine ers, I'm sorry against
the Seahawks that Kenneth Walker went for eighty one against
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them and then actually had one hundred and one hundred
and ten total the arts of scripts because he also
had a twenty nine yard catch. I think I think
what we're gonna see here is depending on Josh Jacob's game,
is how this game is going to go if Josh,
if they are able to bottle him up early, I
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think it'll be close. But if if he busts free,
if he can, if he can crack that that one
hundred and ten, one hundred and twenty yards from scrimmage
kind of threshold, I think it's gonna be really hard
for the Cardinals to win. And and interesting you say
about Jacoby Brissett's time to throw. He was also hit
twelve times, and that was against the Colts. He was
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only sacked twice. Quitty Pey got him twice. But between
between the Michael Parsons and Rashan Gary, my guess is
this game is that they're going to get home more
ag against Brissett this time. And so the edge play
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in particular now Paris Johnson over left tackle has been fantastic,
but Mica Parsons against whoever he's lining up against, whether
he's been lining up against Jona Williams, the right tackle,
or they slide him inside to try and take advantage
of the interior Cardinals. Though interestingly enough, it's almost been
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night and day with him in the lineup. Will Hernandez
guard Willer Hernandez. He got into the lineup he's finally healthy.
In one game, in one quarter, in fourteen or thirteen possessions. Offensively,
the Cardinals have scored nine times with six touchdowns since
Hernandez went started the lineup, and it's not that's a
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weird metric, but he has settled things. What other matchups
do you see are the ones to pay most attention to?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, I think I think you nailed it there with
the with the front. I mean, what rewatching that game
the Carlinals. Going from last week again, there was a
lot of times where he kind of had a lot
of time and he a lot of times he was
hit were kind of his fault and he was kind
of willing to stand in there and get hit. And
I did think, I wonder what this will look like
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against the Packers front in terms of what happens if
he doesn't have the time initially to stand in there.
What they've handled in the last couple of weeks, the
pack Us front against the Bengals and against the Cowboys
is a quarterback who is extremely willing to fire the
ball very very quickly.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I mean Joe Flacco was catching the ball and throwing it.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
He was he was not letting that that he was
not letting that front get home. I don't know if
Jacoby Brissette has it in him almost to kind of
go with that if that's what it needs. So I
guess we'll see Carlin Murray probably a bit more so.
But as you say, if you think Brissett's going to
get the start, that's going to be interesting. I think
on the other side for the Packers spective it all
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has to be I think.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
About about traymer Bride. I mean, he he had.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
A great game against them last year, obviously in the
last but he had I think he caught all eight
of his targets for ninety six yards, and he's just
a constant threat, you know, up the scene behind the linebackers.
That was a real big problem for the Packers in
general last year. They seem to have kind of fixed
it a little bit. And again they are kind of
forcing quarterbacks to just throw it quicker. So it's maybe
it's not so much of an issue because the front
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has been has been putting so much pressure on But
I think it's kind of from the Packer side of it,
if you're looking at how do we lose this game?
How do we how do we end up you know,
giving up a lot of yards, a lot of points.
It kind of starts and ends. I think with tremer Bride,
he's just such a such a special player at that position.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Any other matchups on the other side, I'm going to
I'm going to look the same type of thing, but
on the other side of the ball, and that's going
to be the Cardinal's linebackers. He can stuck a crat
because Tyler Warren was tough on then six catches and
a touchdown they had. They give up catches, I think
to well, Joan Johnson when they played the Saints in
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Week one, Joan Johnson was their biggest threat. Uh so
that that's going to be another one as well. So
let's let's move on then, coming on next on the
Rise of Here podcast, Bestar Cardinals Stock on the Web,
Let's talk picks, picks, predictions, and more. That's coming on
next on ricet back on the Rise of Secret podcast.
But Star Cardinals Stock on the Web. Packers are six
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and a half point road favorites, and by a lot,
that's six and a half points. That's a lot that
this is a game. Yeah, that's a lot for a
road game. And to me, this tells me that I
don't think people. I don't think the odds makers expect
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Kyler to play because I think if he were projected
to play, and if if the report comes out that
he is going to play, I bet we'll see this
line shift by one to two points would be fairer.
But how do you see this one playing out?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, it's an interesting one because I think if you
just look kind of looking at the teams on paper
and kind of the players that both sides have, especially
I just think with the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
At the moment, like they've just been so ravaged kind
of you know, both their top two running backs down.
I mean, now Marvin Harrison has a concussion and it
hasn't exactly kind of really happened for him yet in
the way everybody hoped. And again you might be dealing
with Jacobe Prissette quarterback. And then on defense, there's good
players kind of littered throughout it, but they look a
little bit light, maybe not the most physical. So I
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think on paper, if you looked at it as kind
of from the package suspective, you would think this is
a game we should win.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
We should win.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Probably not not in too difficult you know to do that. However,
it's a road game. They haven't won on the road yet.
They've obviously had the Last and the Tide. It's only
two games, but they haven't won on the road yet,
so that's something that they have to kind of a
box they need to check.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
And I think you just kind of having watched.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
The Cardinals games and just every single one seems to
be so close and come down right to the wire,
and there's some kind of craziness involved, you just kind
of assume that we're probably also going to get dragged
into that. You know, even if on paper it doesn't
seem like that might happen, I tend to think it
will and it will be close.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
And also the way the Packers.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Have been playing the last few weeks, I think they
are going to make it closer than it should be.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So that's that's kind of my feeling on it.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well, do you have a score prediction that you want
to throw out there for the world.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
My kind of early prediction is I can see I've
gone with twenty.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Four twenty one Packers, So another close, another close game,
a field goal.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I don't know whether that will be.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
You know, a situation where it's back and forth, back
and forth, or kind of the Packers maybe are doing
their usual thing where the first half they're kind of
pull look like they're pulling away, and then the Cardinals
may make a furious come back.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
But it could It could happen anyway.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
But I see than winning the game, but I don't
see it being I think that's six and a half
point spread, regardless of who's the quarterback for the Cardinals,
is probably a little bit too wide.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And I personally think that I'm going with the guests
that the Prissette's gonna play, that things are gonna come
to earth. We see this from backup quarterbacks. You get
a backup quarterback in the lineup for the first time,
and everyone elevates their play a little bit. But Brissette
is who he is. He's not like at best. He's
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a low end starter. He can have he can have games,
and I think the pack the Packers pass rus is
going to be a problem for you. I'm picking this
game Packers twenty seven, Cardinals twenty continue giving getting to
continue the trend where the Packers score exactly twenty seven
points in And that's when I put together when I
kind of put my prediction together yesterday. I hadn't looked
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at there, and I'm like, oh, twenty seven twenty seven,
we're gonna have another one. So twenty seven to twenty
they do cover the spread. But for me, I think
because I don't think the defense is gonna be particularly
good against the Packers, don't. I don't think they're gonna
I think they're going to their play against Josh Jacobs
will look better on TV than they actually do, and
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he'll bust out for a couple of long runs. Like
on TV you're like, oh, they're they're doing a good
job of Josh Jacobs. At the end of the game,
he's got ninety eight yards on fifteen carries and you're like, oh,
oh yeah, like, well what happened.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
And that kind of has been a little bit of
the Jacobs almost the Packers run game thing has been.
It's kind of a bit a little bit feaced or famine,
like sometimes they really hit a few and then and
then it's kind of like two yards, two yards, two yards,
like they do try and they commit to it. I
think that's the other thing is they that if it's
not working early, they just stay with it. But I
think you're also the twenty seven points is also astute
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because not only have they scored exactly twenty seven points
and all three of their wins last year, they averaged
on offense twenty seven points a game last year the
whole season, So twenty seven seems like the number they
just can't get. Twenty eight four touchdowns. I guess I
don't know what's what that's about, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Well, if they keep winning, there's nothing like the season high.
The other season highs forty and they didn't even win
that game. But the Cowboys are a team, like what
are the Cowboys? What are the Cowboys? And why are
they doing that? But but whatever, So who do you
expect statistically to stand out? Let me just throw some
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some props out there that that I have up so
more or less over or under one and a half
touchdown passes for Jordan Love The minus one fifty, the
big on the over suggests that should be easy money
and not even a great value. Honestly, yeah, I'll go, I'll.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Go over, but I think it will be two. I
feel like that's the standard. Like he doesn't throw four
or five in a game. It's just not how they
once they get me the goal line.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
It's Josh Jacobs time, so I'll go too.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Okay, a Parsons sacks. These are not betting lines. But
do you think Parsons starts to turn pressure into production?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yes, I think he'll have at least one. Since he
didn't have one last week. I feel like he's gonna
have at least one this This could be I feel
like potentially the first multi sack game. I feel like
Brissette's not gonna be able to get away from him
if he's playing, and it's not going to be able
to maybe throw and he's maybe not going to have
the wherewithal to throw the ball quick enough.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
That makes sense, all right? Cool? Uh? And touchdowns for
Josh Jacobs, what do you see that being?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I mean, I'll take one that that's the absolutely he's
every it seems like every single game he went on
a on a I think he broke a franchise record
at one point.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
For I think he's got a touchdown in ten straight games.
I mean, it's just they.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Just get inside the five yard line and it's just
kind of automatic he ends up scoring.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
So I'll take he'll probably have one this game.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
A thing, all right? And with that. That brings us
to the end of this edition of the Rise of
Here podcast, The Best of Cardinals Talk of the WEPS
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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You is hey, Today's NFL war site. It is episode
seven hundred and ten. It is the first two preview
shows for week seven. Is the Cardinals take on the
Green Bay Packers at Home this weekend at four to
twenty five pm Easter one, five pm locally here in Arizona.
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Uh not. This is our pun a preview show, so
to do so, bringing back on a man who joined
me in the off season from many hours away. It
is actually very early in the morning for me. Mark
Oldacres from Packers Wire joins me once again. Mark, Thank
you so much for taking some time to join me
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on the shows. Is as we get round two of
Cardinals Versus Packers a year later?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, it's only been a year. Since the last last game.
I was watching just to get kind of refreshed on
how that game went. I couldn't really remember like too
much of it, so I had to go back. It
was and rewatch that one.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
There wasn't much for the Cardinals to see. Yeah down,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah that was that was not not the Cardinals' finest,
finest game last year.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But now good to talk to you again Week seven.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I can't believe we're already kind of getting towards the
midway point of the season. So looking forward to this
week's game, I think it's going to be an interesting one.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
And while the Cardinals are, this is their last game
before the bye. The Packers had a very early pie.
They had a bye week in Week five. They come
back out of the break to beat the Cincinnati Bengals
twenty seven to eighteen. Packers fans probably fine with the win,
but against that Packers team after that, against that Bengals team,
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they probably expected a bit more. Nonetheless, what we have
is a three, one and one Packers team that ranks
ninth in total offense, in fifth in total defense, that's
in yards, eighth in point score, tenth in points allowed,
and that they are sitting currently atop the NFC North
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after Detroit lost to the Chiefs, And so, how does
it feel to sit atop the NFC North.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
It feels good.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It feels strange, not because it's been a while, but
in terms of sitting top with a tie.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know, the tie always feels really really.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Strange when it happens, and then you kind of don't
know whether it's good for you or bad for you.
I feel like till the end of the season, you know,
it could be a help and it could be a hindrance,
and so far it's a help having only the one
loss and the Lions been being foreign too to be
to be kind of, you know, top of the NFC North.
So I think it was that was kind of the
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goal this year for this team. There's no doubt, especially
after you know, since we last spoke, they make the
big trade of course for the Parsons, and that, you know,
really wrapchets up the expectation levels to kind of win.
Winning the NFC North is kind of the bare minimum
I think expectation this year. So it's good to be good,
be good to be up there this early in the season.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, So tell me, tell me about the Since Micah
Parsons are rap, what have the Packers gotten from him
so far? Statistically he is second on the team in
sacks behind your Shawn Garris four and a half h
He has eight quarterback hits to Rashaan Garys nine. What
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has been his impact so far? And is the tree
paying dividends thus far?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, I think absolutely it is.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I think I think it was kind of one of
those things where in the aftermath of a trade like that,
there's there's kind of a natural want to kind of think,
how could this almost go badly? And then you kind
of have to sit back and think, it's Michael Parsons,
this isn't this isn't going to be bad. And Yeah,
like you say, he only only has the two and
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a half sacks so far, which is not first on
the team. But I think that the impact that he's
had is is tremendous, and I think the knock on
effect that his presence alone has on the entire defense
and on the rest of the front, especially Rashan Gary
didn't have his best his best year last year is
sacked turtles relatively low, So to already be at four
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and a half, you could already see kind of like
the the presence that Parsons has, the attention that he draws,
and how that's freed up other guys to get sacked.
Lucas fan So, former first round pick who was veering
towards kind of looking like a bus territory, has started
to look like a player. He's getting more one on
one opportunities and he's making the most of them. So
I think it's just been he's kind of slotted every
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other pass rush that the Packers have into sort of
their rightful place, and it's just lifted the entire defense
kind of to a new level.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I think let's let's turn to the offense for a bit.
Tell us how how it has been thus far. Josh
Jacobs pretty has not been, let's say, the the big
player He's He's been a little less efficient this year
at three point seven yards precurate, but does have six
(05:39):
touchdowns through five games. What has been the case and
Jordan Love looks looks so far statistically? What has been
the story offensively for both Jordan Love and for Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, I think let's start with Jacobs.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I think with the you're right to say, absolutely hasn't
been as efficient this year, and this is something that
kind of coming to the season I did look into
and kind of identify a little bit that Josh Jacobs
last year routinely on a week to week basis, was
making magic when there was nothing there. He was really
defying and getting more than was blocked for him. And
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the Packers run blocking unit did not grade out particularly
well last year, and traditionally they haven't done. The kind
of organizational philosophy seems to be that, you know their
offensive alignment, they want pass blockers, which is obviously what's
making you more money and what is more valuable ultimately,
and then the run blocking is kind of secondary, and
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they rely on the scheme and the running back to
kind of create that. Jacobs did that to such an
extent last year that I did think, and he also
carried the ball so much last year that there was
always an it was always unrealistic to expect him to
do exactly the same thing this year and create to
that level on his own. And they did make attempts,
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to the Packer's credit, to improve the offensive line or
keep adding to the offensive line and keep that kind
of stocked. In the off season, they spent big money
in free agency, and they spent a second round pick. Unfortunately,
what's been the case is, since I believe the first
quarter or the second quarter of Week one until last
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week's game against the Bengals, their ideal offensive line was
not available.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Zach tom who's their best offensive lineman right tackle, they
just paid.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
He got injured in the Lions game, an oblique injury,
which he's now playing through. He remarked after the last
game that he didn't remember anything in the second half
because he was in so much pain.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So that's that's what's Oh, that does not sound good.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, So that's that's what's going on there. So and
that's been the case. They've been shuffling around. They've had
to shuffle mid game. Sometimes it's gone well, sometimes it hasn't.
But I think what's really suffered is kind of the
there hasn't been much to work with for Jacobs. On
the Jordan Love side of things, that protection in general
has been much better. Jordan Love, i think, has picked
back up right where he was at the end of
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the twenty twenty three season before kind of the twenty
twenty four was injury stricken the entire year with different
injuries and it really impacted him, especially in his mobility.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
He could really see that.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Already this season he's had several big players on the
ground where he's picked up key first downs on down
that he just couldn't have done last year. And he
looks back to that end of twenty twenty three form,
I think he at this point he seems to make
one kind of big, big wrong decision. Again that looks
when Jordan Love makes a mistake. He doesn't make that many,
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but when he makes them, they look like the most
ridiculous decision you've ever seen. So I think that doesn't
lend itself. And also he doesn't put up kind of
the Gordy numbers in terms of like the counting stats
because of how balance the offense is. But I think
the way he's been playing and operate in this offense
is a borderline MVP candidate level. I think he's been
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a top top five or six quarterback in the league
this year in what's been a weird year. Already at quarterback,
without question, I think he's he looks completely in control.
And this is kind of what Pakistan's have been to
say from eleven, and it's happening so far.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, you know, not already having the buye is putting
him behind it in statistically, but in perspective, the Packers
have over twelve hundred and fifty nine. They've got twelve
hundred and fifty nine total passing yards this season, and
from Jordan Love that's in five games. The Cardinals have
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twelve eighty two in six games. If you look at
the Cardinals, They're passing production comes by and large so
of there of there are one hundred and thirty seven receptions,
fifty nine of them come from Trey mcbriden in Marvin
Harrison Junior. The Packers don't have anyone more with more
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than eighteen receptions. That's Romeo Dobbs in Tucker craft type
of craft. What what? What has been the story in
the in the with the past catchers this year.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
It's the same story that it's been for the last
two years. And everyone thought it might change, and it
hasn't changed. It's been the same thing and it is.
It's an equal opportunities offense and that is what they run.
And Matt Laflow has made it very clear that that
is a conscious choice that they want to run the
offense that way. In that the defense doesn't know who's
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going to be the target. They can't hone in on
any one player, and they trust that they have interchangeable
players who can play different roles and get the job
done ultimately as a collective, and that the offense puts
up enough points that and enough yardage that therefore there's
kind of enough to go around.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And that has been the case again.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I mean Matthew Golden, that was the big rookie first
round pick who everybody thought, Okay, is this going to
be you know, we haven't seen Matt lafloor with a
first round pick wide receiver. What's that going to look like?
And it's basically looks like the rest of the wide receivers,
which is he has played, he's played very well, and
he's coming along each week, which is obviously what you
will to see for a rookie.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
He had his highest.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yardage total in a game last week against Cincinnati's eighty
six yards. And he's made some crucial, crucial players in
the last In the last couple of games, he made
a big fourth down conversion against the Cowboys and then
two big third down conversions which were thirty plus yard
players against the Bengals. So he's certainly good enough to be,
and so are several players in this offense good enough
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to Tucker Craft could have the usage in another offense
of a Tray McBride, like he is that talented, but
it's just not the way they run their offense, and
it doesn't seem like they want to change it.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
The Packers up the season with a pair of good
wins twenty seven to thirteen over the Lions, twenty seven
to eighteen over the Commanders. In fact, in all three
of their wins they have scored exactly twenty seven points.
Then you've got the weird thirteen to ten loss to
the Browns and that I mean wild Sunday night game
(12:04):
where it ends in a forty to forty tie with
the Cowboys Brandon Aubrey kicking a game tying field goal
as overtime expired. What has been the best part of
the Packers season so far? And can you explain the
Browns game? Because that doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, I'm really so, I do.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I am going to struggle to explain that one thinking
back actually saw it like pop up, I think yesterday
they're just looking at like the records of the teams
and the Browns have one win and it was against
the Packets, and I just I just don't understand how
that how that happened. Yeah, I think the best parts
have been I think it's it's probably been the defense
and the dominant stretches that it that it's had.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I think.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
There's been situations where in the last couple of games,
they they've allowed probably more points than they wanted to.
They only allowed eighteen points against against the but it
was a Joe Flacker led Bengals offense, and for the
first half they completely suffocated them. And that has kind
of been a bit of the trend with the defenses.
The first half they've completely shut the opposing offense down,
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and then in the second half they've they've kind of
started to move the ball and put out points. In
the early games of the season, that was in garbage time.
It was completely in garbage time and you didn't really
worry about it. But then against the Cowboys and against
the Bengals, the whole second half they really kind of
struggled to turn the tide back the other way. I
think part of that has been that they just haven't
had much turnover luck, so far, they've only they've only
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taken the ball away twice, which this team took the
ball away at ridiculous rate last year, So you would
think that will probably regress to the middle and they
will probably be look even better than they have. But
I'd said the defense is probably the strength of the team,
while the offense is kind of looks really really really
good in stretches, and then we'll go a couple of
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drives where they kind of stuck their tail a little bit.
But yeah, and the Brown, I mean, the Browns game
was again that's the case with the Brown The defense
completely shut the Browns down, as you would have expected,
and all the Packers had to do was essentially play
a clean game, which they did until late in the
fourth quarter when they were up I think they were
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up ten to three still at this point, and had
the ball and Love throws a silly interception, They return
it to the five yard line, they score a touchdown.
From there, Packers have a chance still to go and
redeem it, and they get a field goal blocked, which
has been an issue special teams has been an issue.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Always is in the NFL. This year, so many last
field goals.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, it's insane, and the Packers have with you know,
they the special teams has been like the kind of
the thing you don't want to talk about for the
for a while. Which if you're going to have something
you don't want to talk about special teams, it's probably
not bad. But in that situation, I think if you
look back really at the Cowboy was on the Browns games,
I think you can make a very very strong argument
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that the Packers, kind of on the general balance of
down to down play, should have walked away easily with
those wins and should be sort of at five another
but that's not how football works, and they shot themselves
in the foot.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Coming on next on the Reces of Secret podcast, If
a Star Cardinals Talking the Web. Let's talk about the
Cardinals Packers that matchup coming up this weekend. It's coming
to next on recips he read We're back on the
Rest of Secret podcast, Best of Cardinals Talk on the
Web talking to Mark Oldacres uh contribute over Packers Wire,
talking about the Packers Cardinals game coming up this weekend.
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As you look at the game this weekend, what do
you think will be the most important part of this
game that will determine who wins and who will loses?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Well, I think obviously they kind of unignorable. Fu's question
is is kind of who's playing quarterback for the for
the Cardinals?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Is it? Is it going to be Carla Murray?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I know he was estimated as limited in practice yesterday
in what was a walk through?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Or is it going to be Brisset?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
And obviously the offense look pretty good with Brissett last week,
so it's kind of I don't think you could get
two more opposite quarterbacks. So it does make it kind
of difficult defensively for the Packers to kind of plan
and they'll need to, you know, switch tacked very quickly
depending on who on who is playing quarterback. I think
what really stood out just watching the Cardinals game from
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last week against the Colts where they were able to
have success as I thought they protected Brissett really really
well throughout the game. I think his average time to
throws was well over three seconds, and when he was
given time off play action to just kind of stand
in there and survey the field, he was able to
he can still rip pass it and was able to
do that and pick up big chance of yardage and
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the run game seemed fairly efficient as well, even without
James Knor, without Trade Benson. So I think that's obviously
kind of where it starts. I think I think there's
a lot of a lot of elements also on the
other side of the ball when the Packers have the
ball that I think the Cardinals defenses is so interchangeable
and kind of, you know, unique in a way that
I think I think this game is a lot going
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to come down to the play callers and the scheme
on both sides of the ball and kind of who
outsmarts her more than anything else.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, and if that's the case, that's bad news for
the Cardinals, because the fourth quarter has been abysmal, absolutely
abysmal for the Cardinals so far this year, both especially
on defense. They've been really bad in the fourth quarter defensively. Personally,
I think Brissett will probably get the start. I don't
think they're gonna rest like They're not like sitting Kyler
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Murray just to give Brissette a couple of starts. That
mid midfoot spring that's tricky. That's a tricky injury. And
kind of the interesting things is they have had a
lot of injuries. They had to walk through yesterday, so
the media couldn't see what Murray was doing because it
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was close to the media, and so we'll see with that,
you know. Looking at Josh Jacob's individual game totals, obviously
the Cleveland game stands out for the lack of efficiency,
though last week against Cincinnati, he had his first game
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average of more than four yards to carry at ninety
three yards two touchdowns, and also added another five catches
for fifty seven yards, so he the last two games
he's surpassed one hundred and fifty scrimmage yards. And the
Cardinals are coming off a game where they gave up
one hundred and twenty three yards to Josh Taylor. In
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Week five, they allowed sixty seven yards in a touchdown
to Troy Pollard, and then on top of that in
week four against the forty nine ers, I'm sorry against
the Seahawks that Kenneth Walker went for eighty one against
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them and then actually had one hundred and one hundred
and ten total the arts of scripts because he also
had a twenty nine yard catch. I think I think
what we're gonna see here is depending on Josh Jacob's game,
is how this game is going to go if Josh,
if they are able to bottle him up early, I
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think it'll be close. But if if he busts free,
if he can, if he can crack that that one
hundred and ten, one hundred and twenty yards from scrimmage
kind of threshold, I think it's gonna be really hard
for the Cardinals to win. And and interesting you say
about Jacoby Brissett's time to throw. He was also hit
twelve times, and that was against the Colts. He was
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only sacked twice. Quitty Pey got him twice. But between
between the Michael Parsons and Rashan Gary, my guess is
this game is that they're going to get home more
ag against Brissett this time. And so the edge play
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in particular now Paris Johnson over left tackle has been fantastic,
but Mica Parsons against whoever he's lining up against, whether
he's been lining up against Jona Williams, the right tackle,
or they slide him inside to try and take advantage
of the interior Cardinals. Though interestingly enough, it's almost been
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night and day with him in the lineup. Will Hernandez
guard Willer Hernandez. He got into the lineup he's finally healthy.
In one game, in one quarter, in fourteen or thirteen possessions. Offensively,
the Cardinals have scored nine times with six touchdowns since
Hernandez went started the lineup, and it's not that's a
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weird metric, but he has settled things. What other matchups
do you see are the ones to pay most attention to?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, I think I think you nailed it there with
the with the front. I mean, what rewatching that game
the Carlinals. Going from last week again, there was a
lot of times where he kind of had a lot
of time and he a lot of times he was
hit were kind of his fault and he was kind
of willing to stand in there and get hit. And
I did think, I wonder what this will look like
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against the Packers front in terms of what happens if
he doesn't have the time initially to stand in there.
What they've handled in the last couple of weeks, the
pack Us front against the Bengals and against the Cowboys
is a quarterback who is extremely willing to fire the
ball very very quickly.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I mean Joe Flacco was catching the ball and throwing it.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
He was he was not letting that that he was
not letting that front get home. I don't know if
Jacoby Brissette has it in him almost to kind of
go with that if that's what it needs. So I
guess we'll see Carlin Murray probably a bit more so.
But as you say, if you think Brissett's going to
get the start, that's going to be interesting. I think
on the other side for the Packers spective it all
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has to be I think.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
About about traymer Bride. I mean, he he had.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
A great game against them last year, obviously in the
last but he had I think he caught all eight
of his targets for ninety six yards, and he's just
a constant threat, you know, up the scene behind the linebackers.
That was a real big problem for the Packers in
general last year. They seem to have kind of fixed
it a little bit. And again they are kind of
forcing quarterbacks to just throw it quicker. So it's maybe
it's not so much of an issue because the front
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has been has been putting so much pressure on But
I think it's kind of from the Packer side of it,
if you're looking at how do we lose this game?
How do we how do we end up you know,
giving up a lot of yards, a lot of points.
It kind of starts and ends. I think with tremer Bride,
he's just such a such a special player at that position.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Any other matchups on the other side, I'm going to
I'm going to look the same type of thing, but
on the other side of the ball, and that's going
to be the Cardinal's linebackers. He can stuck a crat
because Tyler Warren was tough on then six catches and
a touchdown they had. They give up catches, I think
to well, Joan Johnson when they played the Saints in
(23:04):
Week one, Joan Johnson was their biggest threat. Uh so
that that's going to be another one as well. So
let's let's move on then, coming on next on the
Rise of Here podcast, Bestar Cardinals Stock on the Web,
Let's talk picks, picks, predictions, and more. That's coming on
next on ricet back on the Rise of Secret podcast.
But Star Cardinals Stock on the Web. Packers are six
(23:25):
and a half point road favorites, and by a lot,
that's six and a half points. That's a lot that
this is a game. Yeah, that's a lot for a
road game. And to me, this tells me that I
don't think people. I don't think the odds makers expect
(23:47):
Kyler to play because I think if he were projected
to play, and if if the report comes out that
he is going to play, I bet we'll see this
line shift by one to two points would be fairer.
But how do you see this one playing out?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, it's an interesting one because I think if you
just look kind of looking at the teams on paper
and kind of the players that both sides have, especially
I just think with the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
At the moment, like they've just been so ravaged kind
of you know, both their top two running backs down.
I mean, now Marvin Harrison has a concussion and it
hasn't exactly kind of really happened for him yet in
the way everybody hoped. And again you might be dealing
with Jacobe Prissette quarterback. And then on defense, there's good
players kind of littered throughout it, but they look a
little bit light, maybe not the most physical. So I
(24:39):
think on paper, if you looked at it as kind
of from the package suspective, you would think this is
a game we should win.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
We should win.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Probably not not in too difficult you know to do that. However,
it's a road game. They haven't won on the road yet.
They've obviously had the Last and the Tide. It's only
two games, but they haven't won on the road yet,
so that's something that they have to kind of a
box they need to check.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
And I think you just kind of having watched.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
The Cardinals games and just every single one seems to
be so close and come down right to the wire,
and there's some kind of craziness involved, you just kind
of assume that we're probably also going to get dragged
into that. You know, even if on paper it doesn't
seem like that might happen, I tend to think it
will and it will be close.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
And also the way the Packers.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Have been playing the last few weeks, I think they
are going to make it closer than it should be.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So that's that's kind of my feeling on it.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well, do you have a score prediction that you want
to throw out there for the world.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
My kind of early prediction is I can see I've
gone with twenty.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Four twenty one Packers, So another close, another close game,
a field goal.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I don't know whether that will be.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
You know, a situation where it's back and forth, back
and forth, or kind of the Packers maybe are doing
their usual thing where the first half they're kind of
pull look like they're pulling away, and then the Cardinals
may make a furious come back.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
But it could It could happen anyway.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
But I see than winning the game, but I don't
see it being I think that's six and a half
point spread, regardless of who's the quarterback for the Cardinals,
is probably a little bit too wide.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And I personally think that I'm going with the guests
that the Prissette's gonna play, that things are gonna come
to earth. We see this from backup quarterbacks. You get
a backup quarterback in the lineup for the first time,
and everyone elevates their play a little bit. But Brissette
is who he is. He's not like at best. He's
(26:29):
a low end starter. He can have he can have games,
and I think the pack the Packers pass rus is
going to be a problem for you. I'm picking this
game Packers twenty seven, Cardinals twenty continue giving getting to
continue the trend where the Packers score exactly twenty seven
points in And that's when I put together when I
kind of put my prediction together yesterday. I hadn't looked
(26:52):
at there, and I'm like, oh, twenty seven twenty seven,
we're gonna have another one. So twenty seven to twenty
they do cover the spread. But for me, I think
because I don't think the defense is gonna be particularly
good against the Packers, don't. I don't think they're gonna
I think they're going to their play against Josh Jacobs
will look better on TV than they actually do, and
(27:14):
he'll bust out for a couple of long runs. Like
on TV you're like, oh, they're they're doing a good
job of Josh Jacobs. At the end of the game,
he's got ninety eight yards on fifteen carries and you're like, oh,
oh yeah, like, well what happened.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
And that kind of has been a little bit of
the Jacobs almost the Packers run game thing has been.
It's kind of a bit a little bit feaced or famine,
like sometimes they really hit a few and then and
then it's kind of like two yards, two yards, two yards,
like they do try and they commit to it. I
think that's the other thing is they that if it's
not working early, they just stay with it. But I
think you're also the twenty seven points is also astute
(27:48):
because not only have they scored exactly twenty seven points
and all three of their wins last year, they averaged
on offense twenty seven points a game last year the
whole season, So twenty seven seems like the number they
just can't get. Twenty eight four touchdowns. I guess I
don't know what's what that's about, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Well, if they keep winning, there's nothing like the season high.
The other season highs forty and they didn't even win
that game. But the Cowboys are a team, like what
are the Cowboys? What are the Cowboys? And why are
they doing that? But but whatever, So who do you
expect statistically to stand out? Let me just throw some
(28:26):
some props out there that that I have up so
more or less over or under one and a half
touchdown passes for Jordan Love The minus one fifty, the
big on the over suggests that should be easy money
and not even a great value. Honestly, yeah, I'll go, I'll.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Go over, but I think it will be two. I
feel like that's the standard. Like he doesn't throw four
or five in a game. It's just not how they
once they get me the goal line.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
It's Josh Jacobs time, so I'll go too.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Okay, a Parsons sacks. These are not betting lines. But
do you think Parsons starts to turn pressure into production?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yes, I think he'll have at least one. Since he
didn't have one last week. I feel like he's gonna
have at least one this This could be I feel
like potentially the first multi sack game. I feel like
Brissette's not gonna be able to get away from him
if he's playing, and it's not going to be able
to maybe throw and he's maybe not going to have
the wherewithal to throw the ball quick enough.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
That makes sense, all right? Cool? Uh? And touchdowns for
Josh Jacobs, what do you see that being?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I mean, I'll take one that that's the absolutely he's
every it seems like every single game he went on
a on a I think he broke a franchise record
at one point.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
For I think he's got a touchdown in ten straight games.
I mean, it's just they.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Just get inside the five yard line and it's just
kind of automatic he ends up scoring.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
So I'll take he'll probably have one this game.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
A thing, all right? And with that. That brings us
to the end of this edition of the Rise of
Here podcast, The Best of Cardinals Talk of the WEPS
episode seven and ten. In our Cardinals Packers' Opponents preview,
that was Mark old Acres. Thank you man for coming
on with the time change and everything. But I suppose
this is a reasonable hour for you in the day,
(30:19):
less so for me, as it is just crossing five
am for me. No worries. Guys, I'm up this early
every day during the week because that's when I'm putting
up bout that contact on cars Wire. Mark again, thank
you so much. You can catch his work over on
Packers Wire. And that wraps up this show. We've got
one more show coming up at you later at the
end of the week with Seth As we will do
our picks, predictions and props. Maybe we will know a
(30:41):
little bit more about who's playing at quarterback and tell
then I'm Jess Rute. Thanks for listening. As always, we'll
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