April 27, 2026 • 21 mins
Scott Mautz, author of THE MENTALLY STRONG LEADER, is the founder and CEO of Profound Performance, a keynote, training, and coaching company. Mautz is a former Procter & Gamble executive who successfully ran four of the company's largest multi-billion dollar businesses and has been named a CEO Thought-leader by The Chief Executives Guild and a Top 50 Leadership Innovator by Inc. Scott website: https://scottmautz.com/mentallystronggift/ Show notes: https://successgrid.net/sg269/ If you love this show, please leave a review. Go to https://ratethispodcast.com/successgrid Join AI Marketers Club: https://www.successgridacademy.com/3a30d0c6
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hallo, I welcome to the Success Great Podcast with also Stale.
I am excited to introduce you to a series of
conversations with some of the most successful and sparing individuals
from various industries. My aim is to dive into their
stories behind their success and explore the knowledge, strategiest habits, mindsets,
and wisdom that have propelled their success. Each hypishode of
(00:21):
the Success Great Podcast will feature a different guest who
will share their unique journey, the challenges they faced, and
the reasons they have learned along the way. I would
also be covering topics from entrepreneurship and innovation to leadership
and personal development. Whether you are inspiring entrepreneur, a seasoned
business profession, or just someone looking to improve your life,
(00:41):
the Success Great Podcast is for you. My goal is
to bring you valuable insights and inspiration that will help
you achieve your own success in business and life. So
get ready to learn and be inspired. The Success de
Great Podcast starts now. In this episode, I have.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
With Misscot Mouths to talk about mentalists strength and how
it is a leadership superpower of our time. Scott is
the author of The Minitary Strong Leader. He's the founder
and CEO of Profound Performance, a keynote training and coaching company.
Scott is a former Proctor and Gamble executive who successfully
ran four of the company's largest multi billion dollar business
(01:19):
and has been named a CEO, Thought Leader and a
Top fifty Leadership Innovator by INC magazine. So, Scott, welcome
to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, thank you for having me. Glad to be here
and eager to talk about a topic I'm very passionate about.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Oh, that's very apparent. So but first of all, because
this is the Success Podcast, and I think and I
do believe being minitary strong is one of the things
that make people successful. But first, what does success means
to you? And how do you see other people you
work with have certain conceptions around what success is to them?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yes, I think to me, Setting aside mental strength for
a second, I really do believe that success first and
foremost is following through and achieving what matters most to you,
not what matters to other people. You know, I've certainly
seen it over my years. We're saying you probably have
as well. That we can get pulled off of forgetting
(02:14):
what really matters to us and success becomes someone else's
definition for us. Not our own. So first and foremost,
success is achieving what you want to achieve in your life.
That is important uniquely to you, not to somebody else.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So that brings me back to our main topic, which
is basically being mentally strong. And it is like, it's
not just about leadership, because everyone should lead themselves, because
leadership I think comes within. So everyone have to be
a leader for themselves fair first, because if we are
not a leader leaders for ourselves, how we are going
to lead a company or how we are going to
(02:51):
read our life?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That's very important. So how would you define throughout the
years of your book, how would you define the basic
of mental strength to the I've enjoyed?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
See, I think first and foremost that mental strength is
the ability to regulate your emotions, your thoughts, and your
behaviors productively, even in adversity. Is I like the shorthand
it it's how you manage internally so that you can
lead better externally. And I think most of us are
(03:22):
saying I think I think we understand that to succeed
at work and in life, you have to be able
to regulate your emotions, your thoughts, and your behaviors. But
the problem is it's really hard to do that, really
really really hard to do that. But when you can,
when you can, you know, become mentally strong, it really
unlocks the ability to achieve more. It's how you train
(03:45):
your brain for achievement. So that that's what mental strength is.
Just so we're working from the same page, right that
does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So because of that, like, do you think it's being
a mentally strong person? Does that? Let's say I'm monopoly
for business leaders in Europe in or like as I mentioned,
it's like for all the people. We all should have
some kind of ementary strength to a point where we
are in control of ourselves and you are in control
of multiple things that we are going to be talking
(04:13):
about decisions and multiple things.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yes, it is for sure, I'm saying it is just
as much to do and applicably in life as it
is work. And you know what I'm wore. The book
is called The Mentally Strong Leader, and yes, of course
leaders in that title. But when I say leader, what
I really mean it also involves self leadership. You have
to lead yourself in and out of your job. You
(04:37):
have to lead yourself in your faith, you have to
lead yourself in your community. You have to lead yourself
with your family, to show up with your friends in
your social network, to show up the way that you
want to productively. So it's just as applicable, if not
more so, perhaps in personal life as it is in leadership,
as it is a work as well.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
On your studies, have you, let's say, cover or seeing
or have some kind of a framework for being military
strong or some kind of let's say maybe steps involved
in being military strong in death?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yes? Now, the good thing here is mental strength is
based on six core mental muscles. Who's sang and specifically,
mental strength comes from building your confidence muscle, boldness, fortitude,
decision making, goal focus, ability to stay focused on your goals,
(05:37):
and the messaging muscle, which is your ability to stay
positive minded and engaged in your discussions with others than
in the net impression that you leave on them. So
there are six core mental muscles. And to help readers
and listeners of the mentally strong leader to give them
a structure, what I did in the book was I
created a mental strength self assessment questions that you can
(06:01):
take to discern how mentally strong are you overall, and
then how strong are you by each mental muscle that
I described, how strong is your confidence, boldness, fortitude and
so on. Then what you could do is you can understand, Okay,
I have to build you know, let's say it's confidence
and fortitude. Those are the two muscles I need to
build to become mentally stronger. You could start from there
(06:22):
to build a tailored, customize mental strength training program and
apply the habits and the tools and the book for
those muscles that will help you become mentally stronger. That's
a framework that the book The Mentally Strong Leader offers you.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Course, so you mentioned someone could choose maybe the way
I see it, certain things, But in your opinion, do
you think there are let's say someone is looking at
this and want to study this, and I want to read,
for example, your book what you're talking about here, these
six elements, but like there are zero at every diven
do you think that there are certain elements that are
(07:00):
more important than others in these six elements in the
euro opinion?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Really good question. Most people assume who's saying that mental
strength starts with fortitude? You know, that's the first thing
you think of, Oh, mental strength, that's being mentally tough,
that's being resilient. That's only a part of it. It's
a lot more than that. So in truth, what we
find is, you know, first of all, the opposite of
mentally strong is not mentally weak. No one scores zero
in every muscle. We all have a baseline of mental
(07:26):
strength that we can build from. When you take the
mental strength to self assessment that's in the book The
Mentally Strong Leader, you can determine where you need to work,
but all the muscles are equally important if you want
to be balanced, if you want to truly train your
brain for achievement, because mental strength is strongly correlated with
the ability to achieve at work and in life, you
(07:48):
have to be balanced and have strong muscles across all
six of those. And if you think of you know,
if you went to the gym, who's saying to work
on only your leg muscles, that would be a little
ste You'd walk out with really really big legs, and
you couldn't say that you were fit and healthy because
all you worked on was your legs. If you really
want to be truly fit and muscle toned, you have
(08:08):
to have a day where you go to the gym
to work on your back. Then your arms, and then
your core, then your legs. That's what it's like with
mental strength training. You have to be good at all
six mental muscles to truly become balanced and metally strong
over time.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, so mentary strength or mental muscles. When we are
talking about these things in your example, how much does
this say habits day have it's rare to being minitary
stronger or mentory strength. And how far does it take
a human from being a leader or not a leader?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Excellent question. And the whole thing about the book The
Mentally Strong Leader is, you know, I define mental strength,
and I told you how. We know it's hard. It's
really really hard to regulate your emotions, your thoughts, and
your behaviors productively. So I've really dug into habit building science.
Who's saying so, to help people actually become mental stronger
(09:00):
means you have to build the habits that allow you
to become mentally stronger because it's so hard to do it.
And habits are repetitions, are the systems we put into
place to help us become mentally stronger. So the book
is built on habit building science and in the book
contains over fifty plus habit building tools that allow you
(09:22):
to build the habits that increase mentally mental strength. It's
why it's literally like training your brain for achievement, because
those habits tie to mental strength, which tie to achievement.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
So, now and the six elements, let's say there are
multiple ones, like I mentioned to confidence, decision making, goal focus,
and the boldness and fortitude. So do you think that
you can expand, for example, the way I see it
when I read these, for example, six elements I see
for example, confidence is important because I could relate it
(09:58):
to being bold because confidence bids boldness or baldness breed it.
It's confidence, I think so. And also this is decision making,
which is also definitely something very important for a leader
in general, because you are not a leader if you
are not making a decision as quickly as you can,
no matter how the outcomes were, like even the outcomes
(10:20):
were not the correct ones, bit say, right, and also
relating that to goal focus or goal oriented decisions. So
can you expand on these two two elements?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yes? Yeah, so I'll just you know, talk about like,
so you want me to focus on decision making and goal
focus for now? Is that the thought? Yeah? Yeah, so
you're right, a lot of times they're kind of interrelated.
Decision making is not the first thing people think of
when they think of mentally strong, right, but it's a
huge element. If you think of the best leaders you've
ever worked for, the mentally strongest best leaders, they were
(10:54):
very decisive and they made high quality decisions. Not just
that they decided quickly, but what they decided upon was
really really high quality decisions. And here's the thing you're saying.
You see, emotion in bias and undisciplined thinking are all
enemies of good decision making. And if you're not mentally strong,
(11:16):
emotion in bias and undisciplined thinking and to your brain.
So this is where self regulation skills play a mental
strength in other wards, play a huge role in giving
you the courage and the conviction to be decisive and
to give you the ability to make really, really good decisions.
And I'll give you a specific example. For example, one
(11:37):
of the tools I talk about in the mentally strong
leader in the decisive decision making habit, the muscle, is
what I call the ability you know, the bias buster template.
There are tons of biases that can creep up that
we're not even aware of. In the back of our
mind when we're trying to make a decision. In the
book The Mentally Strong Leader, I outline the twelve most
(11:59):
common biases that can pop up that could screw up
our decision making. For example, there's a bias called confirmation bias.
This is where you have the tendency to search for
and interpret and favor the information that confirms the beliefs
you already have or support the decision you already want
to make. So you know what you want to decide,
(12:20):
so you seek out only the information that will support
that decision. That's confirmation bias. Melal strong leaders don't fall
into that. And in the book I go into all
the most common biases in the ways you can avoid
each one of those biases, right before I move on
to goal focuses that does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You say, yeah, So basically you are saying here, either
does not wait for confirmation from others. You could have
some kind of film from others, but ultimately you have
to be the man and they yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
They have to make and they have to be willing
to look for data that might not support the decision
that they think they really want to make in their
gut can't let that seep in or you're going to
keep making the decision that you want to make it
At that point, why did you even gather data? Then?
Why didn't you just make the decision if you're going
to do that? So yeah, Now I also talk about
(13:12):
you know, goal focus is another important mental muscle, and
I talk about building goal focused habits. And you know,
if you think about it, wayward thoughts and emotions and
unfocused thoughts and actions, they distract you from your goals
at hand. And the mentally strongest people are very, very
focused on their goals. One of the biggest reasons why
(13:34):
mental strength is so strongly correlated with achievement is because
it has so much to do with goal focus. And
it makes sense. The more you can stay focused on
your goals, the more you achieve, the more mentally strong
you are. It all feeds each other. One of the
tools I have in the book to help with this
is what I call the control check. Who's saying and
this is it takes that old adage and says you
(13:55):
must focus only on what you could control if you
want to be able to maintain focus on your goals
and achieve And there's a simple tool in there I
call the control check. Think of a table with two columns.
In one column it's labeled setbacks. The other column it's
labeled systems. In the setbacks column, go ahead, sit down
(14:18):
with your team if you have to get it out
of your system. Brainstorm all the issues that are coming
up that are getting in the way of you accomplishing
your goal. Write down all the setbacks. Write them all down,
and this is the key step. Then circle only the
setbacks that you can do something about that you could
have some control over. We so often lose sight of
(14:41):
our goals and lose focus of focusing on our goals
because we start to worry about stuff we have no
control over. So get it out of your system. Write
down what's on your mind, and then circle only the
things you can control. In the other column, that's the column,
mark systems. This is where you write down all the
systems and the balances and the work that you have
place that you can do to actually help you overcome
(15:03):
that setback that you've decided you can indeed do something about. Setbacks,
circle the ones you can control, systems, understand the ones
that will help you move forward. Right makes sense?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, So that's a very important point you mentioned the
right focusing on the things that we cannot control. That's
a waste of time, waste of energy. You are not
going to achieve anything with that. Like in the sits
backs column that you mentioned, this is where certain things
that we put that we can't control or not control,
(15:35):
so we can't eliminate the things that we cannot control
at all. So this is very important people to realize
that we do not want to put some like even
one percent of our energy and same things that we
can't even control. That's very important.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
That's exactly right. And don't miss either saying the psychology
shows us the physical act of with your team or
by yourself literally writing down the things that are setbacks.
Literally writing that down freeze your mind up, because a
lot of times we can't focus because we're worried about
all the things that could go wrong or that have
(16:09):
gone wrong. The physical act of writing them down gives
you a brain dump. Then when you circle the things
you can control, you have gotten it off your chest.
Everything I'm worried about is out there now. I've now
I've chosen only what i can focus on, so that
the act of writing it down is really really important.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, and I think maybe that I don't know if
you agree, but do you think that also led to
also confidence and being bald. Oh, if we put certain
things down, and how are we going to play things
in our head in our minds? Like, yes, this is related,
this is not related. Are we going to waste time
on this? Are we not going to waste time on this?
So these things we need to make a decision that
(16:48):
and be bold about, like, this is something that we
are not going to, for example, waste time on because
it is not out, because it's out for our control.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Right, that's that's right. And to your point, who's saying,
there's even a term for it. It's called the progress principle,
which says this a Harvard researcher originally identified this. Here's
how they all comes together. So if you stay goal focused,
if you write down, Okay, these are the things I
can't control, I'm focusing on what I can control, Guess
what happens You start to make more progress and overcoming
(17:17):
those setbacks. When you get progress towards your goal, Guess
what happens? Your confidence increases. You're willing to become bolder
to take bigger steps. To accomplish that, then guess what happens?
You make more progress and it starts to feed on
itself into a virtual cycle of perpetual progress. So this
all is interconnected. You're exactly right.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, definitely it should be, because we need to build
the blocks to grow for business for ourselves. Because it's
very important to do that because if we think or
we have, like let's say, some a little bit of
doubt and certain things, we should even take decision in
regards to that, whether it's right or lift. These doubts
are going to destroy the business that the person the
(18:01):
leader at some point. So that's very important to be decisive.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I would say, right, yes, that's it's right. It's important
to be decisive. And Moll you mentioned doubt. It's also
to remember important to remember who's saying that. Confidence is
not the absence of doubt. It's your ability to manage
your relationship with doubt. Because even the most confident people
that I've interviewed for this book, and believe me, for
the Metle Strong Leader, I have interviewed thousands and talked
(18:28):
to done research with thousands. Even the most confident people
that I meet, they never say yeah, well, I'm confident
because I never doubt myself. Ever, that's not true. They
know that some self doubt exist. They've just learned to
manage their relationship with that doubt extremely effectively.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So in your opinion, if we can, let's say some
let's put it in pointers. What is the first step
to get started in being a mentally strong reader? Someone
asks you that question? What would be your answer?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Step one? Take the Mental Strength self Assessment and I'll
give you a download at the end that people can
take it for free. You know, you can find the
assessment in the book, but I'll give you a gift
you know where you can also just you know, take
it for free and then get the book later. But
start with a mental strength self assessment. It's fifty questions.
It takes you fifteen minutes figure out where you stand
(19:19):
right now to start, where are you now mentally strong?
And where do you really need to work? And the
assessment has been verified and validated in a way that
you might surprise yourself. You might find out like, wow,
I thought I was a lot more confident than it
sounds like I actually am. Or I'm a lot bolder
than I thought I was. I guarantee you there will
(19:39):
be some surprises in that assessment. That's the place to start, though,
because you want to build a program that's right for you,
not how to become mentally strong or based on where
someone else is and their journey on mental strength. That's
step step one. That obviously step two is I could
promise you getting them mentally strong leaders an investment that's
worth it because there are tons of habits and tools
(20:00):
to help you level up based on whatever mental muscle
you need to strengthen.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So Scott Twitter, can people learn more about you and
get in touch with you.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yes, go to Scottmounts dot com s c O T
T M A U t Z and I haven't that's
dot com, and you can learn about you know, keynotes,
the books that I write, all the things that I do,
trainings I give, the virtual trainings that I do. And
also I put together a gift today for your listeners
or your podcast that will help them be more successful.
(20:29):
If they go to Scottnoutes dot com slash mentally Strong Gift,
they can download a sixty page free pdf that includes
the mental strength self assessment I was talking about, as
well as prompts to help make the book even more
productive for you, the mentally strong leader of the book.
So go to scottnotes dot com slash mentally Strong Gift
(20:50):
and you can download the sixty page pdf for free.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Awesome, awesome, and thank you very much Scott for providing
us with such value. They have mintory strength and mintity
strong and using also helping with the habits because that's
very important that we need to know certain things of
our weaknesses and develop on it. And also that it's
very important because a leader should be in a place
(21:14):
of let's say, a strong position and not weakness. So
this is very important. And yeah, thank you very much
for Jeremy for this episode.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Happy to be here, thanks for having me
Hallo, I welcome to the Success Great Podcast with also Stale.
I am excited to introduce you to a series of
conversations with some of the most successful and sparing individuals
from various industries. My aim is to dive into their
stories behind their success and explore the knowledge, strategiest habits, mindsets,
and wisdom that have propelled their success. Each hypishode of
(00:21):
the Success Great Podcast will feature a different guest who
will share their unique journey, the challenges they faced, and
the reasons they have learned along the way. I would
also be covering topics from entrepreneurship and innovation to leadership
and personal development. Whether you are inspiring entrepreneur, a seasoned
business profession, or just someone looking to improve your life,
(00:41):
the Success Great Podcast is for you. My goal is
to bring you valuable insights and inspiration that will help
you achieve your own success in business and life. So
get ready to learn and be inspired. The Success de
Great Podcast starts now. In this episode, I have.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
With Misscot Mouths to talk about mentalists strength and how
it is a leadership superpower of our time. Scott is
the author of The Minitary Strong Leader. He's the founder
and CEO of Profound Performance, a keynote training and coaching company.
Scott is a former Proctor and Gamble executive who successfully
ran four of the company's largest multi billion dollar business
(01:19):
and has been named a CEO, Thought Leader and a
Top fifty Leadership Innovator by INC magazine. So, Scott, welcome
to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, thank you for having me. Glad to be here
and eager to talk about a topic I'm very passionate about.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Oh, that's very apparent. So but first of all, because
this is the Success Podcast, and I think and I
do believe being minitary strong is one of the things
that make people successful. But first, what does success means
to you? And how do you see other people you
work with have certain conceptions around what success is to them?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yes, I think to me, Setting aside mental strength for
a second, I really do believe that success first and
foremost is following through and achieving what matters most to you,
not what matters to other people. You know, I've certainly
seen it over my years. We're saying you probably have
as well. That we can get pulled off of forgetting
(02:14):
what really matters to us and success becomes someone else's
definition for us. Not our own. So first and foremost,
success is achieving what you want to achieve in your life.
That is important uniquely to you, not to somebody else.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So that brings me back to our main topic, which
is basically being mentally strong. And it is like, it's
not just about leadership, because everyone should lead themselves, because
leadership I think comes within. So everyone have to be
a leader for themselves fair first, because if we are
not a leader leaders for ourselves, how we are going
to lead a company or how we are going to
(02:51):
read our life?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That's very important. So how would you define throughout the
years of your book, how would you define the basic
of mental strength to the I've enjoyed?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
See, I think first and foremost that mental strength is
the ability to regulate your emotions, your thoughts, and your
behaviors productively, even in adversity. Is I like the shorthand
it it's how you manage internally so that you can
lead better externally. And I think most of us are
(03:22):
saying I think I think we understand that to succeed
at work and in life, you have to be able
to regulate your emotions, your thoughts, and your behaviors. But
the problem is it's really hard to do that, really
really really hard to do that. But when you can,
when you can, you know, become mentally strong, it really
unlocks the ability to achieve more. It's how you train
(03:45):
your brain for achievement. So that that's what mental strength is.
Just so we're working from the same page, right that
does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So because of that, like, do you think it's being
a mentally strong person? Does that? Let's say I'm monopoly
for business leaders in Europe in or like as I mentioned,
it's like for all the people. We all should have
some kind of ementary strength to a point where we
are in control of ourselves and you are in control
of multiple things that we are going to be talking
(04:13):
about decisions and multiple things.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yes, it is for sure, I'm saying it is just
as much to do and applicably in life as it
is work. And you know what I'm wore. The book
is called The Mentally Strong Leader, and yes, of course
leaders in that title. But when I say leader, what
I really mean it also involves self leadership. You have
to lead yourself in and out of your job. You
(04:37):
have to lead yourself in your faith, you have to
lead yourself in your community. You have to lead yourself
with your family, to show up with your friends in
your social network, to show up the way that you
want to productively. So it's just as applicable, if not
more so, perhaps in personal life as it is in leadership,
as it is a work as well.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
On your studies, have you, let's say, cover or seeing
or have some kind of a framework for being military
strong or some kind of let's say maybe steps involved
in being military strong in death?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yes? Now, the good thing here is mental strength is
based on six core mental muscles. Who's sang and specifically,
mental strength comes from building your confidence muscle, boldness, fortitude,
decision making, goal focus, ability to stay focused on your goals,
(05:37):
and the messaging muscle, which is your ability to stay
positive minded and engaged in your discussions with others than
in the net impression that you leave on them. So
there are six core mental muscles. And to help readers
and listeners of the mentally strong leader to give them
a structure, what I did in the book was I
created a mental strength self assessment questions that you can
(06:01):
take to discern how mentally strong are you overall, and
then how strong are you by each mental muscle that
I described, how strong is your confidence, boldness, fortitude and
so on. Then what you could do is you can understand, Okay,
I have to build you know, let's say it's confidence
and fortitude. Those are the two muscles I need to
build to become mentally stronger. You could start from there
(06:22):
to build a tailored, customize mental strength training program and
apply the habits and the tools and the book for
those muscles that will help you become mentally stronger. That's
a framework that the book The Mentally Strong Leader offers you.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Course, so you mentioned someone could choose maybe the way
I see it, certain things, But in your opinion, do
you think there are let's say someone is looking at
this and want to study this, and I want to read,
for example, your book what you're talking about here, these
six elements, but like there are zero at every diven
do you think that there are certain elements that are
(07:00):
more important than others in these six elements in the
euro opinion?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Really good question. Most people assume who's saying that mental
strength starts with fortitude? You know, that's the first thing
you think of, Oh, mental strength, that's being mentally tough,
that's being resilient. That's only a part of it. It's
a lot more than that. So in truth, what we
find is, you know, first of all, the opposite of
mentally strong is not mentally weak. No one scores zero
in every muscle. We all have a baseline of mental
(07:26):
strength that we can build from. When you take the
mental strength to self assessment that's in the book The
Mentally Strong Leader, you can determine where you need to work,
but all the muscles are equally important if you want
to be balanced, if you want to truly train your
brain for achievement, because mental strength is strongly correlated with
the ability to achieve at work and in life, you
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have to be balanced and have strong muscles across all
six of those. And if you think of you know,
if you went to the gym, who's saying to work
on only your leg muscles, that would be a little
ste You'd walk out with really really big legs, and
you couldn't say that you were fit and healthy because
all you worked on was your legs. If you really
want to be truly fit and muscle toned, you have
(08:08):
to have a day where you go to the gym
to work on your back. Then your arms, and then
your core, then your legs. That's what it's like with
mental strength training. You have to be good at all
six mental muscles to truly become balanced and metally strong
over time.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, so mentary strength or mental muscles. When we are
talking about these things in your example, how much does
this say habits day have it's rare to being minitary
stronger or mentory strength. And how far does it take
a human from being a leader or not a leader?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Excellent question. And the whole thing about the book The
Mentally Strong Leader is, you know, I define mental strength,
and I told you how. We know it's hard. It's
really really hard to regulate your emotions, your thoughts, and
your behaviors productively. So I've really dug into habit building science.
Who's saying so, to help people actually become mental stronger
(09:00):
means you have to build the habits that allow you
to become mentally stronger because it's so hard to do it.
And habits are repetitions, are the systems we put into
place to help us become mentally stronger. So the book
is built on habit building science and in the book
contains over fifty plus habit building tools that allow you
(09:22):
to build the habits that increase mentally mental strength. It's
why it's literally like training your brain for achievement, because
those habits tie to mental strength, which tie to achievement.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
So, now and the six elements, let's say there are
multiple ones, like I mentioned to confidence, decision making, goal focus,
and the boldness and fortitude. So do you think that
you can expand, for example, the way I see it
when I read these, for example, six elements I see
for example, confidence is important because I could relate it
(09:58):
to being bold because confidence bids boldness or baldness breed it.
It's confidence, I think so. And also this is decision making,
which is also definitely something very important for a leader
in general, because you are not a leader if you
are not making a decision as quickly as you can,
no matter how the outcomes were, like even the outcomes
(10:20):
were not the correct ones, bit say, right, and also
relating that to goal focus or goal oriented decisions. So
can you expand on these two two elements?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yes? Yeah, so I'll just you know, talk about like,
so you want me to focus on decision making and goal
focus for now? Is that the thought? Yeah? Yeah, so
you're right, a lot of times they're kind of interrelated.
Decision making is not the first thing people think of
when they think of mentally strong, right, but it's a
huge element. If you think of the best leaders you've
ever worked for, the mentally strongest best leaders, they were
(10:54):
very decisive and they made high quality decisions. Not just
that they decided quickly, but what they decided upon was
really really high quality decisions. And here's the thing you're saying.
You see, emotion in bias and undisciplined thinking are all
enemies of good decision making. And if you're not mentally strong,
(11:16):
emotion in bias and undisciplined thinking and to your brain.
So this is where self regulation skills play a mental
strength in other wards, play a huge role in giving
you the courage and the conviction to be decisive and
to give you the ability to make really, really good decisions.
And I'll give you a specific example. For example, one
(11:37):
of the tools I talk about in the mentally strong
leader in the decisive decision making habit, the muscle, is
what I call the ability you know, the bias buster template.
There are tons of biases that can creep up that
we're not even aware of. In the back of our
mind when we're trying to make a decision. In the
book The Mentally Strong Leader, I outline the twelve most
(11:59):
common biases that can pop up that could screw up
our decision making. For example, there's a bias called confirmation bias.
This is where you have the tendency to search for
and interpret and favor the information that confirms the beliefs
you already have or support the decision you already want
to make. So you know what you want to decide,
(12:20):
so you seek out only the information that will support
that decision. That's confirmation bias. Melal strong leaders don't fall
into that. And in the book I go into all
the most common biases in the ways you can avoid
each one of those biases, right before I move on
to goal focuses that does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You say, yeah, So basically you are saying here, either
does not wait for confirmation from others. You could have
some kind of film from others, but ultimately you have
to be the man and they yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
They have to make and they have to be willing
to look for data that might not support the decision
that they think they really want to make in their
gut can't let that seep in or you're going to
keep making the decision that you want to make it
At that point, why did you even gather data? Then?
Why didn't you just make the decision if you're going
to do that? So yeah, Now I also talk about
(13:12):
you know, goal focus is another important mental muscle, and
I talk about building goal focused habits. And you know,
if you think about it, wayward thoughts and emotions and
unfocused thoughts and actions, they distract you from your goals
at hand. And the mentally strongest people are very, very
focused on their goals. One of the biggest reasons why
(13:34):
mental strength is so strongly correlated with achievement is because
it has so much to do with goal focus. And
it makes sense. The more you can stay focused on
your goals, the more you achieve, the more mentally strong
you are. It all feeds each other. One of the
tools I have in the book to help with this
is what I call the control check. Who's saying and
this is it takes that old adage and says you
(13:55):
must focus only on what you could control if you
want to be able to maintain focus on your goals
and achieve And there's a simple tool in there I
call the control check. Think of a table with two columns.
In one column it's labeled setbacks. The other column it's
labeled systems. In the setbacks column, go ahead, sit down
(14:18):
with your team if you have to get it out
of your system. Brainstorm all the issues that are coming
up that are getting in the way of you accomplishing
your goal. Write down all the setbacks. Write them all down,
and this is the key step. Then circle only the
setbacks that you can do something about that you could
have some control over. We so often lose sight of
(14:41):
our goals and lose focus of focusing on our goals
because we start to worry about stuff we have no
control over. So get it out of your system. Write
down what's on your mind, and then circle only the
things you can control. In the other column, that's the column,
mark systems. This is where you write down all the
systems and the balances and the work that you have
place that you can do to actually help you overcome
(15:03):
that setback that you've decided you can indeed do something about. Setbacks,
circle the ones you can control, systems, understand the ones
that will help you move forward. Right makes sense?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, So that's a very important point you mentioned the
right focusing on the things that we cannot control. That's
a waste of time, waste of energy. You are not
going to achieve anything with that. Like in the sits
backs column that you mentioned, this is where certain things
that we put that we can't control or not control,
(15:35):
so we can't eliminate the things that we cannot control
at all. So this is very important people to realize
that we do not want to put some like even
one percent of our energy and same things that we
can't even control. That's very important.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
That's exactly right. And don't miss either saying the psychology
shows us the physical act of with your team or
by yourself literally writing down the things that are setbacks.
Literally writing that down freeze your mind up, because a
lot of times we can't focus because we're worried about
all the things that could go wrong or that have
(16:09):
gone wrong. The physical act of writing them down gives
you a brain dump. Then when you circle the things
you can control, you have gotten it off your chest.
Everything I'm worried about is out there now. I've now
I've chosen only what i can focus on, so that
the act of writing it down is really really important.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, and I think maybe that I don't know if
you agree, but do you think that also led to
also confidence and being bald. Oh, if we put certain
things down, and how are we going to play things
in our head in our minds? Like, yes, this is related,
this is not related. Are we going to waste time
on this? Are we not going to waste time on this?
So these things we need to make a decision that
(16:48):
and be bold about, like, this is something that we
are not going to, for example, waste time on because
it is not out, because it's out for our control.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Right, that's that's right. And to your point, who's saying,
there's even a term for it. It's called the progress principle,
which says this a Harvard researcher originally identified this. Here's
how they all comes together. So if you stay goal focused,
if you write down, Okay, these are the things I
can't control, I'm focusing on what I can control, Guess
what happens You start to make more progress and overcoming
(17:17):
those setbacks. When you get progress towards your goal, Guess
what happens? Your confidence increases. You're willing to become bolder
to take bigger steps. To accomplish that, then guess what happens?
You make more progress and it starts to feed on
itself into a virtual cycle of perpetual progress. So this
all is interconnected. You're exactly right.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, definitely it should be, because we need to build
the blocks to grow for business for ourselves. Because it's
very important to do that because if we think or
we have, like let's say, some a little bit of
doubt and certain things, we should even take decision in
regards to that, whether it's right or lift. These doubts
are going to destroy the business that the person the
(18:01):
leader at some point. So that's very important to be decisive.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I would say, right, yes, that's it's right. It's important
to be decisive. And Moll you mentioned doubt. It's also
to remember important to remember who's saying that. Confidence is
not the absence of doubt. It's your ability to manage
your relationship with doubt. Because even the most confident people
that I've interviewed for this book, and believe me, for
the Metle Strong Leader, I have interviewed thousands and talked
(18:28):
to done research with thousands. Even the most confident people
that I meet, they never say yeah, well, I'm confident
because I never doubt myself. Ever, that's not true. They
know that some self doubt exist. They've just learned to
manage their relationship with that doubt extremely effectively.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So in your opinion, if we can, let's say some
let's put it in pointers. What is the first step
to get started in being a mentally strong reader? Someone
asks you that question? What would be your answer?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Step one? Take the Mental Strength self Assessment and I'll
give you a download at the end that people can
take it for free. You know, you can find the
assessment in the book, but I'll give you a gift
you know where you can also just you know, take
it for free and then get the book later. But
start with a mental strength self assessment. It's fifty questions.
It takes you fifteen minutes figure out where you stand
(19:19):
right now to start, where are you now mentally strong?
And where do you really need to work? And the
assessment has been verified and validated in a way that
you might surprise yourself. You might find out like, wow,
I thought I was a lot more confident than it
sounds like I actually am. Or I'm a lot bolder
than I thought I was. I guarantee you there will
(19:39):
be some surprises in that assessment. That's the place to start, though,
because you want to build a program that's right for you,
not how to become mentally strong or based on where
someone else is and their journey on mental strength. That's
step step one. That obviously step two is I could
promise you getting them mentally strong leaders an investment that's
worth it because there are tons of habits and tools
(20:00):
to help you level up based on whatever mental muscle
you need to strengthen.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So Scott Twitter, can people learn more about you and
get in touch with you.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yes, go to Scottmounts dot com s c O T
T M A U t Z and I haven't that's
dot com, and you can learn about you know, keynotes,
the books that I write, all the things that I do,
trainings I give, the virtual trainings that I do. And
also I put together a gift today for your listeners
or your podcast that will help them be more successful.
(20:29):
If they go to Scottnoutes dot com slash mentally Strong Gift,
they can download a sixty page free pdf that includes
the mental strength self assessment I was talking about, as
well as prompts to help make the book even more
productive for you, the mentally strong leader of the book.
So go to scottnotes dot com slash mentally Strong Gift
(20:50):
and you can download the sixty page pdf for free.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Awesome, awesome, and thank you very much Scott for providing
us with such value. They have mintory strength and mintity
strong and using also helping with the habits because that's
very important that we need to know certain things of
our weaknesses and develop on it. And also that it's
very important because a leader should be in a place
(21:14):
of let's say, a strong position and not weakness. So
this is very important. And yeah, thank you very much
for Jeremy for this episode.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Happy to be here, thanks for having me
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