Beyonce - Church Girls | What Does This Mean for Christians?

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Christ. We are talking about thewhole Beyonce controversy going on where she used
a sample of the Clark's Sisters.I don't remember the song, but for
her song Church Girls, and itcaused the whole commotion because people are saying,
should secular artists be able to samplegospel music and use it for their

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perfect Yeah? And what do youknow about this this whole I mean,
really, what you know about thecontroversy because I'm just kind of getting halfway
when I have to be honest.I haven't really listened to a lot of
the clips, but I know thata pastor came out on her basically say
it. I guess he was against. I think it's Tweakie Clark even letting

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her allow her to use that sample. Uh, he would say it basically
questioned her salvation, that she's noteven saved salvation. Yeah, Beyonce,
that she's not even saved, whichcalls some R and B artists to come
out to support her. U bintake who said, you know who's here
to question her salvation? Blah blahblah and uh. The Tetrich gave him

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had a post about basically let herbabe, let her use her the music
for her audience or whatever, becausegospel of artists do it all the time.
Had in the gospel gospel artists basicallylet her babe, she's gonna let
her use it for her audience.We do it all the time gospel artists.
So so what do you feel aboutthat? I don't really know,

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Like we all beyond Beyonce does notdo any any gospel use it or nothing.
So you are what they do.So of course the content of the
song, especially with it being churchgirls and being a towerk anthem, that's
in appropriate. But what do weexpect? That's what they said, listen

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to the song. It ain't good. But so, but I don't know
if twinky the thing what I don'tknow if she has the rights to the
to the song that actually refuse towant to use it, because that would
pretty much make me question it morebecause if you could tell her no,
and you see it exactly what she'susing the song for, you know,

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I would I wouldn't have her useit, even if it means I'm going
to get the rods off. ButI don't know if she if she's able
to do that or not. Youknow. But yeah, gospel artists,
they do samples our secular song allthe time, you know, so as
far as some sampling, I mean, we can't really stop Beyonce if we
go to sample. Yeah, itwould be like a kind of hypocritical,

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right. But I think even ifwe don't know who owns the you know,
the song and all those legalities andstuff, at the end of the
day, you know, I thinkwe do need to take into account not
so much who, but what shewrites tends to write about. And I
think, and I know, Iknow I'm very hypocritical saying this, but

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I think it's it's always for thepurpose of glorifying God, then why not
let the secular in the in theChristian kind of cross paths a bit,
you know what I mean. Butwe see this a lot with La Crank
because he samples the heck out ofstuff, and Kirk Franklin samples a lot
of stuff in the world. Ieven heard Dropping Key samples something from Steve
Wonder. But even though Stevie isall right, oh yeah, Etric all

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the time, like we see that, and sometimes they glorifying God in those
samples that they use. But whenyou got Beyonce kind of coming over and
I think there's me personally from thedevil, I do, I truly do,
just because it's Beyonce. Yes,I got a whole biased opinion against
him, but I think her comingover trying to sample whatever kind of Christian

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melody, whatever she wants to use, I think it would be everybody's best
interest in fact checked, you know, I mean, was she writing about
what are you using this for onyour album? That you're sitting there on
a horse naked, what are youdoing? And the thing guess Beyonce actually
would say she's a church girl,so she's probably I'm sure she's included to

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herself and whatever, you know,the lyrics, which I don't. I
don't know exactly what the lyrics are, but she's included herself at it.
Yeah, but they're calling it likea twerk anthem. I think that's so
ridiculous. I mean, I don'tsee too. You're not gonna see no
church girls in the church working,So I mean, unless you're saying that
they can twerk to or something,I don't know. But you know,

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it's crazy because we talked about thisprobably to nausea, but we see a
lot of people claiming Christianity. SoBeyonce just one of the many that's claiming
Christianity. She did one movie thatI know of that's Gospel to Fight the
Temptations, and now she's a Christianforever. You know, completely in the
Illuminati has been proven okay, timeand again. But you are a Christian?

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Yeah. I think it's because,you know, I don't know if
she grew up in the church church. He has that church background, so
that's why she claims it. Buta lot of people. It's funny because
a lot of these Christians or backat her and support her because they don't
see nothing wrong with it. Like, I don't see how you could you
could support that if you're saying,you know, you're in the church,

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but then you're out in the clubtend I mean, and you cuss and
drake. My thing is, let'sdefine Christianity in a complete plug on What
Do I Do Now? Book?Okay, that completely defines it. Has
a nice little section in there whata Christian is. But a Christian is
not someone who basically is in theworld of it and in it. No,

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Jesus outlined that you in the world, but not of it. That's
what a true Christian is. Youdon't mingle. You don't do what the
world does. That means drinking andcussing, sampling stuff, being naked on
a white horse or a silver horse, whatever that horse look like, or
to cover her album. You don'tdo that stuff and you can still call
yourself a Christian. That impossible.You know. Christian is believing in Jesus

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Christ and confessing him. I mean, it goes hand in hand again,
complete plug on the book, checkthat one out. But we see this
in our society, everybody claiming thatthey're Christians and stuff like that, and
it's kind of disheartening because remember we'veseen Andy mineow on there, him and
his wife went to a Beyonce concert. That was enough for me. First

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of all, you cussing on youralbum, on a Christian air quote album,
and then next thing we know,you ad a Beyonce concert. Something
ain't right about that. And Ihate to be the one that questioned anyone's
salvation. But you know, peoplebuy their fruit, the Bible says,
so that fruit ain't producing much.I don't see nothing. I don't see
no righteousness being produced from that.And I don't want to like, I

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didn't expect, you know, Beyonceto have whole gospel sal I didn't expect
her that to be like CC onthis album because theen like that. It's
just the fact that you have asong called church Girls, and then you're,
you know, you have some otherout there saying, oh man,
you know Beyonce has this all youknow, I can do that. You
know. That's the thing that Idon't like about it is that, you

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know, you have those that aresaying this is how all Christians are,
yeah, you know, or youknow they're hypocritical, you know, and
and stuff like this doesn't help.Yeah, it doesn't feel like it makes
a We haven't even listened to thesong, like you said, Lincia,
so we getting red played it herein a second. But don't feel kind
of disheartening a little bit when youwhen they're like making a mockery. It

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seemed like of something that's so nearand dear to us, and you see
it. You see it a lotwith you know, these a lot of
the secular ones out there, theywait for stuff like this to come out
so they could basically saying they don'tlike Christians, bad Christians, like the
whole once they make a mistake,Kurt Frankly with the cussing, you know

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it was the whole thing. Whydon't that's why I don't go to church
or don't you know? And youknow, Beyonce comes out with this church
girls. But you know, otherthan this church girl's song, I've never
heard Beyonce say she was a Christianever. I ain't seen no statement.
I don't follow the girl, butI ain't seen nothing over the years.

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Even in Destiny Child, I sawnothing but the Fighting Temptations movie where she
was in there cussing when she evenher character was not saying but in the
church, I'm just saying, likeI think we see a pair of pattern
here. Yeah, other than thatand her being on with Michelle Williams couple
of her songs, you know.Yeah, So I don't know, I

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might have seen an interview or somethingwhere she said she is or I'm not
sure, but she definitely does it, does it act like it? So
does she is not with the cussylike you said, and drink and other
herd songs ever displayed And honestly andme and you probably the most not not

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liberal because I ain't the right word, but we're probably the most. I
don't know. We open. We'reopen as Christians, not so much with
our beliefs, but how the Christianculture really should kind of be and things
like that. We're not like strict, We're not just like the John mc
author's No Shade, but you knowwhat I mean, we understand that as

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a Christian you can have fun.You should have a Christian anthem. I'm
pretty sure church girls not should notbe the first of all, no Christian
really should be talking to no gospel. So if it's a true gospel song,
that's just wrong. You know.I don't think you want to see
nobody talking just saying you do thatstuff with a secular song, you know.
So, but we're so open andstuff. I believe that we give
people so much grace, you know, and we're so understanding of where people

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come from. But I don't thinkI'm gonna be able to understand where she's
coming from with this song. AndI don't understand why Christians back her up
and don't judge. I can understandwhy the world back her because it's Beyonce.
They love her. I don't know. I really don't know why.
Yeah, And like you said,as far as the liberal like, we're
definitely not strike. Like, Idon't have a problem with Kurt Frankly.

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We use the samples Drake and stuff, and like I like that, you
know, basically making it more moderntoo, for the for the younger generation
as well. So I think it'sa good thing. I'll have a problem
with, you know, Kurt Frankly, you know, he's always the onor
of the latest dances. See nothingwrong with that as his songs. It's
content of a song, is youknow, like you said, glorifying guy
praise, It's nothing wrong with thatto me. Yeah, or even just

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like like like we talked about yearsago two like even if it's positive,
maybe not necessarily like oh God,Jesus and everything like that, but just
has a good message behind it.I'm we're totally open about that type of
stuff that Craig does a lot of. Like you said, Craig does a
lot of it. Like some ofhis songs. You might not hear a
whole bunch of Jesus in it,but he's not cussing. He's not.
It's clean. You can play it. Yeah, I agree. So I

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don't have a problem with that.Really, No, I don't either.
The Beyonce they're saying her song thevice church Girls to celebrate their freedom,
freedom from what it says, giveus church girls the permission to dance?
We dance. Yeah, but I'llbe deswerred. Is that what you're saying?
Freely dance whatever? See See that'smy thing. Like because Beyonce is

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known for her dancing, her sexydancing at that, I don't think,
but whatever, her promiscuous type ofdancing style, I'm pretty sure she's not
saying go ahead and do I don'tknow the Running Man or something like that.
I'm I'm guessing when we hit playon this song, it give ready
some rat chicity at its finest,and she's gonna give us permission or freedom

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to dance I'm sorry our freedom.I'm sorry you just stopped that freedom.
Didn't it give give us freedom ormission to dance? I don't know about
you evensen here, but I canjust turn on any well known gospel song,
old school Kirk Franklin and jam Idance freely and there's no torquing involved.
It might be a hip or two, but it ain't no torking involved.
So I onlyed Beyonce to give meno permission to do nothing I've been

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doing. Yeah, and then onthis particular thing are reading here about it
as a religious news service. They'retalking about and Renaissance as an olde to
black disco house of bald won culture. Clark's sister sample is the perfect choice,
as black queer Christians work til you'rebeing pushed out of the church to

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violent theologies and searchs of sanctuary partiesand clubs became a refuge. So now
we're supporting black Yeah, yeah,yep, Well that said it all.
So Clark sisters, I mean,whether you twinkie, whatever your name is,
whether you own it or not,I mean, well done. I
really did you right here this songall right? So yeah, again we're

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hearing this song for the very firsttime, both of us. If it
wasn't for this The Truth Diaries,we never would play this song. So
you're gonna get our real lives reaction. We have a treat if it plays.
Okay, okay, So alrighty.We got a warning at the start

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of this lyric video. And it'sa lyric video. It's not even the
music video. This video may potentiallycontain seizure triggers for those with photosensitive epilepsy.
Yeah, your discretion advice. Weforcecolors. Yeah, I might be
Okay, that's that's the sample.Oh he hears her voice. So that's

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her saying for a tweety like voice, like a where that cry getting his
body going and call don't oh mygod? Yeah, talking not talking like

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you bad squirrel? Brow let itgo. You got cussing, y'all.
You can't hear it, squirrel,nobody feeling any of you want to sounds
in appropriate. This sounds some sacksgoing on up in this club. But

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this is the grinding type, youknow. Yeah, dancing. Yeah,
she's getting it in this club,but this is a church. Girls,
go ahead and do that. Yeah, this is acceptableha back it up.
Now she's gonna bust it, bythe way, and if you know anything
about that, Yeah, it soundslike it is what it sounds like.

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That's how I'm in combat, justsaying doing God twa, I'm gonna let

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go of this body. She's gonnagive me. I didn't you know,
church doing the church guy's work allday and now you just want to let
loose. Yeah, and let listento and I deserve that. The song

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over, I'm tired, she's blessedbecause so I'm gonna turn it off.
The mother if he racks up,we know what the rack is. Oh,

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So we heard the lyrics, andwhat's your reaction to to the girl?
I don't know what it's typical Beyoncesong. Yeah, it's gonna sell.
That could be the number one?What is it? What you got?

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What your thoughts? I mean,But it's it's just because I don't even
know why we're even like compared thisto Christians, because like I didn't expect
her to have to d regards this, So I was so yeah, it's
hard. It's just the fact thatyou use a gospel sample to put out

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something like this. They're saying churchgirls like you busted, Like I mean,
oh so much. And I cansee why Alan took the lyrics by
lyrics because there were so many thingsin those lyrics that were wrong. And
then like you said, you know, we didn't, let's beyonest, we
didn't expect to compare her to anybody, you know what I mean, probably

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even anyway we didn't expect. Butat the end of the day, I
am a little disheartened because she she'sthat's hampled throughout. She thought it was
just gonna be in the beginning,but I kind of she kind of wove
it all the way between you andstuff. That's so sad. That really
is sad. I'm a little disappointedthat the Clark Sisters let her use that
for that, because it's bad becauseI don't even know what the original song

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is because I don't know a lotof but people are going to recognize it
for this particular song. Yes,and now it's kind of tainted or something
like that, at least having likea negative cond of well, oh yeah,
that's the Yeah, get the ClarkSisters thinking about Jesus all this on
the poor samples stuff like that.Then you're talking about you know, nobody

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could judge, be baby. Basicallyyou're saying, like, you know,
let yeah, your dog guy's workall day, you could go this party
of just let loose. Yeah,nobody could judge. Yeah, yeah,
it's okay with that, And wehear that so much from the world so
much, But why are you worryingabout if we if we are judging.
Why are you worried about that?Go live your life? Why are we

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writing songs about living your life?You're living your life now. I mean
my thing is too. Also thatBeyones, they didn't lie at all in
the song. I do want togive her some kind of credit. She
didn't lie them Church girls air quoteson the church. They do this stuff.
Like you had a couple of peoplewhen you work with that, you
know, discoverer, who would partySaturday, and we know they do this

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stuff and go to church Sunday.They're all holier than that. Again,
I had a girl actually say that. She's like, yeah, Sunday,
I'm gonna go to church, butyeah, Saturday, I'm gonna be on
my garage, but you know,drinking my drinking my whatever. She was
drinking, drinking drinks. But thelords that party. So yeah, a
lot of people are coming out likeyou know, and and they want to

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say, oh, you're district orthat's that's Christiated. You know, there's
nothing wrong with that, you know. And I think, like you see
now that a lot of people thatare Christian, because there's so many different
Christians, Oh that it's okay ifit's Okay, it's wrong with drinking and
stuff. You know what's wrong withwhat's wrong with this? Just dancing?
Yeah, well we're going, that'swrong with going to a club and busting
it, getting your racks up andthe money up, and toddy and body

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and let loose on the toddy andall this other stuff. Yeah, people
people like you know, I guessus seemed like a strict or or what
do you call it? Lame orcorny? Oh yeah, we check that
box, d or ell. ButI just still see how that's glorified guy.
And you're going, how did yougo to the club like that and

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dancing on some guy? Yeah,and busting it? See, that's and
that's my thing and and that's whymy disappointment comes with the Clark sisters.
Do your homework. First of all, Beyonce's name carries a certain thought and
and and the presence with it.She's not gonna saying about God. We
kind of knew that, but doyou want to fact check fact check it

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anyway? But she didn't. Andmy thing is this same thing. I
got a problem with Oprah on hisown channel and stuff like that. You
wanna keep putting Christians, you don'tbelieve that Jesus is the only way.
And just like Beyonce, you madethis song with the intent of exposing what
rightfully so what people what church girlsdo on Saturday or Friday night, but

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you didn't do it to the toin a in a beneficial way. You're
endorsing it. It's okay for peopleto act like this because I you can't
judge me. I'm gonna drop mybody, be up Siday. I'm a
blessed he gonna do this and thatand the stick and all this stuff like
those was oh gosh, yeah,I wanted to asso like speaking with like

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he said, or as let Beyoncemake her song for her audience, and
you make your godspelsalft for your audience, then mynd your own business and let
God be God. If you havea problem concerning about Beyonce, just pray
for her strength. And he wastalking about Twinkie, you know, get
rewarded, I guess because she waswinning a lot of money or something like
that. So he's happy now thatbasically she's able to get some recognition or

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get some money off of this song. And that sounds like it sounds like
she basically sold her soul so shecan get back on top. I don't
care what Dietrich, Twinkie Winky orBeyonce says. This is not God or
Dame. It's not like to actuallydo agree with Dietrich's first part of that,
like let her do her song audience, But at the end of the

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day, when you're crossing over,you know what I mean? Like that,
there's an expectation we put on Kirkand La Craye when they go sample
somebody else's music, What you're gonnado that, That's what we ask I
will say this, like, butkray he's one of those he works with
some secular people. But I willsay that when they work with them,
it's a gospel. So they cometo the God. He's not cussing on

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it. Make it a secular tomake it a gospel exactly. Yeah,
you know, yes, Like ifthey go on, I'm sure if they
go on, a secular artist isgonna be They're gonna be a gospel.
So yeah, And that's why that'swhy I say, like, me and
you are the most open people,so for us to say stuff like this,
it really does speak volumes. Likewhen Lord Daegel went on the Ellen

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show to sing her little song.Now she has proven to be what she's
what she is, but we areopen, like we gotta see how you're
gonna use this platform, right justlike be honest, We're gona see how
you use this sample. We seeit now, you know, like you
said, Lookray, a good jobliving like that, Like you know what
I mean, the way he putit on display. But you do bring

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them over for the purpose of singingwhat you want to sing, which is
usually a Christian a Christian song.But this right here, this right here
is an insult, to be honest, and I feel personal I actually feel
personally attacked because we know what achurch girl really is like church people,
how about that church people? AndI think she's just making mockery. I'm

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sorry, she's making mockery and basicallychallenge no one to say nothing to her
about it, Like you said,like we could have fun without going at
like you know you just because youbecome crystal mean you can't have fun no
more, you know, basically dryand stuff like. So we still go
to you know, we could stillgo out, go to games, go

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to the concerts. Yes, Idon't change. I had a good we
went to torn Wells concert a coupleof years ago. Had a great time
there. You forgot, you know, it's almost like we remember we had
such a good time. Like itwasn't even felt like, oh, we're
at a Christian thing or we're wefelt like we're at a second It felt
like a good time and it feltreally good. Could be praising God in

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the process, you know what Imean. So it's it's it's it's just
so I'm so sad. I'm veryI'm not gonna lie. I'm very sad
about this this time. And Idon't know why her song has bothered me
so much, Probably because it gotall the Christians over here thinking it's okay
to do this stuff. It's not. Yeah, because I've seen I don't
know the exact cope with That's whatI said, Like, you know this
Beyonce. So it made me,you know, want to go out and

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or or have me what to bemy roal self or letting letting that go,
like how are you not your realself? Like she telling you now
that you can go out with it, yes, and nobody can judge me,
that's what she said. But youknow what, when people like to
say it again, Andy, Dietrichand all all the people that's sticking up
from Beyonce to a certain degree,y'all to be ashamed of yourself this why

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y'all listening to Why are you listeningto her? Why are y'all going alongside
of her? Yeah? Again,I agree with Dietrich a little bit,
like, let her do her songsand we do our stuff. But at
the end of the day, whenyou have church people professing Christians, whether
we believe they are not listening tothis woman's music and endorsing that, that's
wrong and you need to call thosepeople out. Don't sit here. I

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just go stay in my little cornerand Beyonce go. Beyonce not staying in
her little corner. Beyonce that cameon over here to plot justice and snacked
that song up? Or pay forthe pastor who actually said it that sparked
it. He was saying, Uh, Beyonce just released sacrilege. The only
thing I could I could account forsome of this stuff if somebody sold her
so to the devil. Yes,thank you, well said thank you,

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and it said that. He alsosaid, I don't know, rather tweaky
knew what Beyonce was gonna do withthe song or not. But she knows.
She's not saying yeah, I praythe guy that is stiff. You
know she is here. What shedid with the song is put out.
I agree with that. And youknow what, when we heard the sample
right in the beginning, that's wherefelt like it was premeditated, that the

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motive was horrible. It was like, I'm gonna take a Christian song and
I'm gonna butcher the heck out ofit because I can and I want to,
because I gotta message to prove.My thing is, when we heard
that sample, you could have donethat yourself. It wasn't like that song
was all that great. That samplewasn't all that great. It wasn't exclusive.
It wasn't like I hate to say, like this jay Z Blueprint album
where the beats original and stuff like, It wasn't like that. You could

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have made that yourself that were likespectacular, like and that the artist say,
like, who's he to say questionourself, which we can't but Beyonce.
Yeah, But to put out somethinglike this, you're up custod and
stuff that you don't have. No. My thing is, you know,
Christians are not perfect. Let usdo every single thing right and you don't
fall. But when you're doing thisstuff and then there's no like reward,

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I don't think Beyonce is go feelsbad about no. I can see if
this was something that was like she'sbecause if like you're struggling, you know,
if seeing something that you struggle withor drinking something that struggle with,
I can understand that. You knowyou're not perfect. But I don't think
Beyonce is struggle at all. Idon't think there's there's we Definitely she's saying

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there's no conviction at all, none, none, whatsoever. You made a
you made a really good point,there's definitely. I'm gonna I'm gonna question
it. And I know about probably, I mean, it is what it
is. I'm gonna question it becauselet's look at the facts. Has she
sung a Christian song, legit Christiansong on her own? Has she made
one? Probably not? Not justthe Fighting Temptations that I know of which

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I don't know her catalog, becauseyou know, sometimes some secular artists do
make like at least one gospel songand they put on the album. I
know Diddy have one with Mario Winan, so they all kind of put one
whatever. But I don't know ifdid or not. They don't tend to
sell because people are want to hearthat. I've never heard nothing from her.
I think invite tentation. I don'tthink she's saying any Christian song,

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no song, I'm and my god, it's not a church. But listen,
I just watched that movie about threemonths ago. I don't remember her
saying no Christian song. She wasup in the club talking about fever and
everything else. She was singing somesong with Angie Stone and stuff and Marvel
Marabella whatever her name is. Thatwas no Christian song. I just she's

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I want to say, she's nota Christian. There's nothing in her that
she's producing fruit that says I'm aChristian. And it looks like the fighting
said that she came up, sayYes, came up and there's a song
called that twenty then a gospel Methley, So I don't know if that's maybe
that's on her album. So Iguess she did do one. I never

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heard that in my life. Okay, Well, staying corrected, I guess
she's saying one song. I don'tknow what saying yes was. In't remember
that. Oh okay, well thatdon't count. Then that definitely don't count,
because I want her song. Didshe ever put one on her album?
No? Whatever this gospel medley is, I guess, I don't know.

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I never heard that one. Thisgirl is not saved, and me
personally, I gotta personally call outall those who endorse her, because she
just really put out a whole threeminutes some second song insulting and throwing digs
really at the church, at thechurch, at the true Body of Christ,
Yes she did, and basically sayingit is okay when you do the

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work of the Lord's work all daylong, to go to the club and
the wind and bust it open,let it loose, and you can't judge
me. She that's like a kidlike Nanna, and that really that's how
I felt the who the whole time. How dare you? She made me
sick? I'm sorry, I don't. I don't like that. I don't.

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I don't. And then and thenmake it worse, she doing a
little Mariah Carey move. She hadn'tdone nothing about five years. Okay,
now long prices the uh that littleband thing Cochella. I don't know what
I don't know what you're doing.But it's been a while since she came
out with a you know, originalsong album, and this is what you
come out with, this is whatyou've been doing the last couple of years

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since your twins been born. Thatthat's an insult on the body of Christ
and we don't need to be standingfor that. That's why it was posted
questions I guess after the pastor,they're like, you're all leaving the congregation.
If your pastor calls Beyonce saw churchgirls trash? No, what would
you would you? Would you leavethe congregation if your pastor calls Beyonce's uh

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saw church girls trash? No,That's why he said that. Okay,
Lissia, do you think it's trash? Let's Beyonce sees herself as a liberated
church girl and she is not byherself past folks will drop it like a
like a dotty at the party,but got church in the warning. That's

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what she's talking about. Like,yeah, like because there are some that
do do that. Yep. Butyou know, the Bible, I don't
know where it is. I cangoogle it, but I ain't going to.
But the Bible says that we shouldnot use our freedom in Christ to
basically do what we want to do. We are free to do whatever God
wants us to do, because we'renot slaves to sin anymore. But we're
not supposed to abuse the grace ofGod to what we want to do.

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And that's assuming that she's a Christian, which we and then discussed about.
And you always have the one like, that's what it says. Christians are
quick to play out beyond its doubleworship it but seeven to overlook their pastors
cheating on his way with the deakestorder. But hey, but my thing
is why is right? But right? Like just because it's wrong too.
If if you have pastors in therethat are cheating or doing stuff or just

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like the water for Hillsong or messingwith the Congress, that's not right.
Yeah, right, they want tocontinue to prop this girl up. If
we don't make it, I don'tknow about anybody else me and you don't.
We we seen most recently look thegay the gay the gay preacher on
the that was just sad. Butwe don't get nobody, no past If

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you sin, you sin, okay, and if you crook it being naked
on a on a silver horse rightnow, that's just wrong. No one's
giving nobody no past, but theylike the generalize. It's so funny that
the world like the generalized Christians.But we can't generalize the world because it's
always like, you know, ifwe come out and say, somebody say,

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y'all should have been listening that songanyway, are you're judging or you
know, like so we're not,but let us you know, well,
Christians do something wrong here, cousinhere, that's why our own fool with
Christians or you know, it's awhole yea, yep, you ain't fool
with Christians because of yourself. Don'tblame it, don't blame can tell you

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if this was the triggering somebody ouseand nobody gonna come out there and support
now unsupported, maybe trick, butsupport and support Christian bake smo, mistate.
But yeah, oh it's okay.You know, it's beyond that.
Girl is perfect. She has aright to say whatever she wants to say,

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and forget everybody else saying I don'tI don't like it, I really
I don't like it. She sheshe she intentionally came out with this song
Valencia. I think that her andand jay Z do this stuff. They
know what they're doing, yep,you know, and they know what songs
and then oh yeah, I'm gonnaput this out here. It's gonna give
you some stuff, just gonna getpeople talking. Yeah. So it works

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like it's basically people are listen towhat to hear what she's saying. She's
gonna get the streams, she's gonna, yeah, it's really gonna push this
song. That is true yep,yep, Because I mean, and that's
the sad part is in my eyes, she ain't say no other gospel song
period, okay, but the onlygospel air quote song that And she's saying

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this stuff, this this ridiculousness aboutbusting it and splitting it and propping it
up. Now. I will saidtoo, though, like you see the
Marcus Rogers and them coming out,you're pretty much going in deaf into her
album. I don't know why youeven do that, because I could see
it. CC winans this stuff.I can see you going in there and

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and making a judgment on it.I don't expect her to have, but
I agree with that's this song becauseshe used the sample. Yeah, but
the whole album, I'm not goingto go through it. No, no,
no, not at all, notin the least. But correct me
if I'm wrong. He did talkabout like beyond and the Jedzebel spirit,

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right, and see, and nowI see why he said it. Not
me personally, I never would haveput Jezebel with Beyonce because we don't follow
her. But based on this song, I can actually see why he says
that beyond because that song is veryrisky and quite disgusting and very very very
graphic. I mean, you don'thave to use too much imagination. She

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basically put it out there, andthat's exactly what Jezebel endorsed in the Bible,
promiscuitous. See, I know I'msaying that wrong anyway, being a
hoe quite frankly and doing all thisstuff Beyonce talked about in this song,
and the fact that she's endorsing thisspecifically really to me to church girls,
to Christian community and stuff like that, or even just the world that thinks

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that they're a Christian that this isokay. You know, That's exactly what
Jezabel did. She turned the entirenation of Israel to idle worship, to
doing whatever they want to do.Be sexually fluid in I'm just saying I
actually see where Marcus Rogers is comingfrom. I really do, I really
do, And I don't think weneed to be conducting ourselves as women who

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are professing Christians like this. Thatis not the way God ordained it.
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