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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Looking at you like a dog who heard a funny noise? Well,
is this a wake up song? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Your reaction is valid. Gem Ni seven December nineteen sixty five.
It was Christmas time and Jim Leavell's daughter Jim Level,
the astronaut naval aviator, test pilot mechanical engineer key figure
in Apollo eight and thirteen. His daughter wanted to hear
this song, and so this was.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
She in space at the time with him.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm guessing she was probably back at mission control. That
reminds me. You've toured NASA in Houston before. Well, Webster,
have you ever been in the original mission control room?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I don't think I have.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
They don't use it anymore. The technology is too archaic. Yeah,
but it smells. This is my favorite thing about it,
because I've been in there many times. It smells like cigarettes.
How bet it does as you could imagine.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That doesn't go away once it soaks into the walls
of the carpet and the equipment.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's interesting because it's like a museum now just for
looking at. But they really don't do anything to guard
or protect anything. If you can get in there, which
I have, I've gone through all the drawers. I've looked
through all the desks and the old paperwork doesn't make
any sense to me. It's but back before laptops and
iPads and computers, they were it was just a guy

(01:18):
in there smoking cigarettes doing maths.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
A lot of guys smoking a lot of cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
In there, somebody in there with a you know, the
paperwork and a pencil to explaining.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
It's just a very different time. Did you see the
Three Black Ladies?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, what was that movie called?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I don't remember the name of the movie, but I
remember that them three Black Ladies had their pencils out
and there are grease boards, and they they solved all
of National's problems and got the astronauts home safe.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I hope they're still working for this crew Hidden Figures.
It's a ten year old movie at this point. It
was twenty sixteen when it came out.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, but you know, Oh, you think they've retired since
inn Well, No, I'm sure they have. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I don't think any them or even alive anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, I hope they taught to somebody all that complicated
math before they retired, so we can get these these
astronauts back. I got I'm now I'm worried about whether
they got the math right, because you know, they got
to come in at an angle. You know, they don't
just drop straight down. They come in at an angle. Yeah,
And if they're not careful, they can skip off of

(02:22):
the atmosphere instead of come through it. And if they skip,
you know, off the atmosphere, that means they're gonna miss
their landing spot in the ocean and probably end up
like in Arizona or something. And now you watch they skip,
they miss San Diego, It probably end up landing on
Nancy Guthrie hiding somewhere in Tucson, Arizona. Oh no, that's

(02:43):
what I'm thinking might happen. And that's how Nancy's gonna die.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
She's was crawling out of the desert.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
But that's how they'll find her. Also, he was like, oh, hey,
who's this old lady's feet sticking out from under the
capsule here? And it turns out is nancy problem solved.
But the other big problem with the astronauts. And I
don't know if you guys are you know, savvy enough
with how how things work to understand that we might
have a problem with the heat shield Yeah, shields might

(03:09):
be down or in some way compromised. And if the
shield's compromised, well that that's risky for everybody.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well I was saving it, but it sounds like we're
going to have to do it right now.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
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Speaker 1 (03:52):
So you're pretty gay for Space and you are aware
that the heat shield may be compromised. There's been some
cracks in the heat shields when they have returned from
space in the past.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
As you're aware. Billy and I lift, and I don't
just left. I lift with nerds. Yeah, yesterday, one of
my one of my favorite strength training coaches, Bob a
very uh oh yeah, Bob, a very nerdy guy.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh Bob.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
He looks at me dead serious. He looks at me
straightly on. He's not kidding or giggling, and he goes,
I'm really worried. I was like, what, He's like, the
heat shield on the Artemis spacecraft.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
It's not doing well. He's right.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I thought he was gonna tell me my daughter's sick
or I might get fired from where. He's like, no,
the heat shield. You don't have a daughter, No, he does,
is it?

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh? You thought he might say his daughter was speaking
and a boy.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
You know, He's like, what's wrong? Bob is like, I'm
worried about the heat shield on Artemis. I was like, oh,
me too, Bob, what's And also, isn't this kind of
the plot line to every deep space movie.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Eh, and every Star Trek or Star Wars. Everybody at
some point during every space show has to say, eh,
the shields are down. The shields are down, and then
they have to worry about trying to get him up.
Or sometimes they wanted the shields down because you know,
Luke was sent to that planet Indoor I guess it was.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I think that's the name of it. That was one
of them he went to more than one.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
He went down there because their job was to go
down there and turn the heat of the shields off
smart so that the attack, you know, when they come
out of light speed, the attack wouldn't run into a
shield hull on my guys hasn't out with that. Luckily,
they had the little guys that look kind of like bears.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I forget what they was called. I believe you're talking
about the ewoks. Weren't Schewbacca that was he was.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, they're real big, and the e walks are real little,
but they're feisty.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, and they put a pretty good fight against some
stormtroopers there so they could get them shields down.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
The Uoks kind of remind me of Milton sometimes, or
vice versa. Yea, I could see that because I when
I heard the heat shield was having problems on the
Artemis two, the first thing I thought is, well, they're
gonna have to get.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Some guy to go out there. Oh yeah, that's always
fun too.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
And then his air tether whatever they call it's not
gonna be long enough.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Oh yes, tether's not long enough to reach the problem.
What is he gonna do?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Now, he's gonna say, disconnect me. I'm going I'm no
way man, no way, we can't disconnect you.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
You're gonna say you can't just free ball it out there,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, maybe sending the woman out. He said, I'm gonna
raw dog it. That's the woman. Why don't we do this,
Why don't we make a chain, a human chain. I
hold your hand, and you hold the hand next to
that guy, and then he'll be able to reach see
because he'll get his just and then if if his
hand doesn't slip like you know, Sylvester Stallone's hand when

(06:38):
he was holding that woman, to have fallen off of
that you know rope.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Sure, yeah, but as macabbas this is, I think that'd
be like my second preferred way to die.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Well, okay, what's the first one again? Skiing?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I would Okay, whenever I'm skiing and I'm about to
do something dumb, someone will say, you know, Kenny, you
could kill yourself.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I said, well, better this than Yeah. They're like in
a cancer ward for two years, floating out see, no
air to breathe, no air space. Would be my number
two if I had to die. Now, I see what
you're saying, because that's things you love to do. But uh,
dying when you're skiing is unless it's like an avalanche
and you get you know, covered and smothered. Uh hmm, yeah,

(07:16):
I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
About Yeah, gravy and eggs, waffle House biscuits.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Oh yeah, no, the covered and smothered. My third way
to die waffle house. Yeah, I would want to eat
so much waffle House that I exploded. That'd I thought
you meant it. The fight that's gonna break out at
some point in the night, well, that's when you have
You're probably gonna get stabbed at a waffle house. Oh,
dying while you're dying skiing you generally, I would think
dying by skiing would be would happen a lot faster.

(07:43):
She wouldn't have a lot of time to think about,
oh hell, I'm dying. But if you die in space
because you floated away from your your tether, uh, you know,
it's gonna be long, slow, and you're gonna have a
lot of time to think about all the dumb ass
mistakes you made, like on clipping that tether.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Would it be long? Because how long can you hold
your breath on?

Speaker 1 (08:01):
You you got the equipment on, you're breathing out and
you're doing your space walk anyway. You got some oxygen,
you got some air. If that's the metric, it's gonna
run out. It's like scuba diving. You got to check
you tank, no when to come up, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
But then when you have some control, then you could
just go use up all the air and then you
die and then hold your breath real long, only breath
along as you can because you don't want to die.
Or would it be a very beautiful, slow, painless death.
I don't know. I've never suffocated to death in space before. Huh, yeah,
I've never had that. We could have a reenactment if
you want to try it.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
See how that works. I've put a pillow over you
here or something. It's like not having any oxygen. I
do really think that's the same thing, Billy. I mean,
this is kypathetical.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I've got to have the beautiful view of Earth from
millions of miles away.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
We'll put it on the screen. You've got a big
screen in here. We'll put a picture of Earth and
you can stare at it. I'll choke you out. That's stupid, Billy.
How am I going to see it? If there's a
pillow on my face? I'm gonna go with an arm bar.
I'm gonna choke you out.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
See this is why I think my Glen Dell needs
to come up with like outer space pillow covers. You know,
they might have those that would solve the problem. Yeah,
you know, and you could use your promo coach save
a lot of money. And then obviously with the death
tax and the inheritance tax, most of your money's going
to get taken by the government anyway. But yeah, it'd
be just nice to know you had something to give
to your kids when you're dead, even if it is
just an outer space pillow.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Case, sure, or just the memory of the man that
chose his own way to go leave this planet by
his own means.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
And then you'd want to die from waffles or something.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
But now if they could fight and agreas Grizzly, yeah still,
you know, unless I can get to I think it'd
be cool to fight a lion, you know, king of
the jungle. If you know you're dying anyway, you know,
like if they find you got cancer and there's just
you know, it's just riddled all through your body and
you got of course you're not gonna put up much
of a fight. If you're riddled with cancer. But still
the lion's gonna take you, whether you train for it

(09:52):
or not. You ever see that movie The Revenant with
Leonardo Dicafe, Oh, yeah, that be the bear got a
hold of Leo ever which away You remember that he
said that in.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
The movie he gets raped by a bear, and the
media went wildly.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
They loved that story.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
And then the movie came out and he didn't get
raped by a bear. He got raked by a bear
raked and then but I remember the media really talked
about it a lot before they figured out what it meant.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, I think city folks mainly are the ones that
do those movie reviews. Yeah, and they saw the this
isn't in real life. This is how a bear will
kill whatever it's trying to kill. First of all, you know,
it whacks you with its paws, knocks you down, you'ren
and then they get on top of you and they
bounce up and down like this. You've probably seen it before.

(10:34):
They do that because they weigh a lot, and they
make they're they're killing whatever it is they're about to eat. Right, Yeah,
And the bear started pouncing up and down on Leo
like that and looked like he was, you know, hammering him.
Do you think some of these Hollywood movie reviewers heard
there was a bear involved and they their mind just
went to a sexual place because of the LGBTQ or whatever.

(10:57):
I don't get that.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, you know, it's a colloquialism. You gots and bears
and otters. I'm not really sure which is which, but
I think the twinks the skinny one.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I don't even like the fact that you know that
much less thinking I would know that. You know, I'm
staying out of that world. Read a lot of Newsweek.
It's not my fault. It's just out there. You know,
they make you know it. You could stop reading. It'd
help you a lot, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
But then how am I going to find out what
happened to the heat shields on Artemis too?

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I'll let you know.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
If a week of your life, it's gonna be great. Now,
sit back, relax, and enjoy the greatest show on Earth,
the ego.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
On you Walton and Johnson Radio Network. There's unusual A
feller like you, your your age and what not, knows
about the crooners. It was a specific time of American history.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Mama was Italian. I grow I didn't grow up with
a lot of country.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Music Italian today. She still is. She still is.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
As a little boy, I heard a lot of a
lot of the crooners grown up, and not a lot
of the Dad listened to country, but he didn't play
music for me.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
He was always off on a business trip. Yeah. See,
my dad listen to the country, not the crooners. I
don't know what Mama listened to when I wasn't home.
Maybe she sat around and had crooners on. But the
more I say crooners, the more I think about food
cruelers from a doughnut shop. I knew that that would
be tasty, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Hey, you mentioned that movie earlier about the three black
ladies that did math.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Oh, yeah, that's called Hidden Figures. I don't know if
you knew that.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Only one of them lived long enough to see the film,
Creola Catherine Johnson. Her name was Crayola, Creole, Creola cr
e o La And anyway, she passed away in twenty twenty.
The others all passed away back in the early two thousands.
And you know there was Dorothy and Mary and you
know what they never tell you in that movie. They
lived in Texas, and they were basically from the south Virginia,

(12:46):
West Virginia, Missouri, barely the south but still technically a
Confederate state. They must have been good cooks.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
They must have been absolutely had to be. Yeah. You
think maybe their kids and the family members saw the
movie musta you know, so, hey that's a that's Aunt
Creola there.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, they probably saw the movie and they thought, well,
this is why mom was always burning biscuits. She was
too busy doing math. Yeah, yeah, you know, we have
math older mind always interrupting my omelet time. I don't
know why. I just assume everything was breakfast food.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, but I'm sure she did a pretty good dinner too.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah probably back then. Well sure, Southern cooking.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I mean, come on, boy, between you know the the
waffle house smothered and covered hash browns and crowlers and
now omelets. Is there a theme to the show that
we're just now picking up on. See, here's the.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Part of this that's going to bump you, bum you out.
The theme is space. Because of the big news to you,
I thought it was breakfast. Well, I mean, we eat,
but the food in space.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Was never known to be good. Now, back in the
old days, they had to eat it out of a tube.
It's just like some toothpaste or something. Now they have
a you know, a better variety, but you still can't
turn it loose, you know, you can't just they put
it on a plate. Your macaroni and cheese would be
floating all over the cabin pretty soon, getting on everything. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
And then, if I'm not mistaken, having some astronauts snuck
food into space before, Oh did they? And you always
think it's to be something real interesting.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
In nineteen sixty five, if I'm not mistaken, Gus Rismond
the commander and John Young, the pilot, they snuck a
corn beef sandwich up there, which isn't bad. But it's
not like you know, yeah, it's not like they had.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
All of the astronauts I heard snuck a roll of dimes.
I think it was. I don't know why that's stuck
in my head, but took a roll of dimes up
to space. Might have been Buzz Buzz was what a
character like that? And when it came back, he's like,
now all these all these dimes are special because they've
been to space. That's kind of cool. Yeah, and then

(14:48):
he would give them to people or maybe he sold him.
Maybe that's you know, how he planned his retirement. Well
to your point.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know, these guys brought that corn beef sandwich to space.
They did get in a little trouble. Gus Grismond and
John Young pressure it's Grisham, Grisham, Yeah, Yeah, I think
you're right. They took a bite out of the sandwich rye.
Bread crumbs quickly floated around the cabin in zero gravity.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, crumbs of bread floating around
in space.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
So they stowed the rest in a pocket to avoid
any risk of crumbs getting into the spacecraft's instruments.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
NASA was not amused.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Officials worried about potential equipment damage from floating crumbs. It
even drew congressional scrutiny during a budgeteering, with some calling
it foolish. It got scrutiny. Yeah, isn't that amazing. Later on,
he was interviewed in Life magazine and he apologized for
doing it. He's like, yeah, that was a disgraceful moment
in American history.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
One of the reasons that they were upset about that,
you know, besides the obvious is that it would encourage
the next group of astronauts to try to outdo them,
and at some point somebody's gonna sneak on an entire
Thanksgiving dinner milkshare. There'll be cranberry sauce everywhere because you know,
nobody eats it, so it's just gonna float around until
it lambs will something.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, you know it's not for nothing here, but you
bring that sandwich up into space, you bring it down again.
I got to wonder if some millionaire somewhere wanted to
buy it and need it.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Woo See. You never know, there's some freaky people out there,
and you know, sometimes freaky people have a lot of
money and you can get in from them. There's a
good way to do it.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I bet Old Gus was relieved when Bill Clinton had
that cigar scandal with Monica Lewinsky.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Will okay, sure, sure that that probably relieved him. Well, No,
Bill Clinton was relieved.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, they had a congressional hearing to talk about how Yeah,
I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
They had. I was trying to make a point.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
They had a congressional hearing too, to talk about you, yes,
thank you, to talk about what a scandal this was,
and then years later, you know, didn't seem that bad
after the cigar thing happened.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, after the scrutiny.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Sure, yeah, it's like, hey, all I did was eat
a corn beef sandwich in space, like what the president's
been up to.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
You'll need that now. And I hope that never happened
in space because you gain no gravity, you know, floating
and anyway, Yeah, you don't want to go there.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Meanwhile, back on Earth, the Supreme Court has handed Republicans
an election win. Yesterday, they declined to intervene in an
Ohio election dispute, clearing the way for state officials to
keep a congressional candidate off the Republican primary ballot, a
move that effectively hands the GOP and advantage in a
closely watched district.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
And that's in Ohio, because you know how we do
things in Ohio, right Yohiohio? Do we do things in Ohio? Yes?
According to that red face guy that kept crying all
the time during the campaign those years ago, I.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Don't remember who, Oh, John Kasik, I thought you were
doing a race thing for a minute, but that was
he's a white guy. That's fine. You can you can
call him red face? What was racist about what I said?
Why you got to correct me?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I mean I might have said something racist, because these
days we don't even know what racism is. Wait till
they tell us.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, from what I understand from professional football, you should
never equate anybody's skin color to the color red.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Now I'm only red face because you know, either he
was a like drinking, or he was crying or something
that just or maybe you had what's that thing you
get where your face goes this just starts turning red
and retarded. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe that.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, I don't know. His dad was a mailman, give
him a break. Yeah, apparently a mailman, that's for sure.
I don't know why that makes him qualified to be president.
But poy did he tell us that a lot?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Wouldn't it be cool if the astronisk could stay up
just a couple more days? Sunday is grilled cheese sandwich day.
Don't you know they're gonna That's something I think you
can sneak into space. Put a grilled cheese sandwich in
your pocket. I mean, even if you sit on it,
it's still gonna be okay, because they're usually real thin anyway,
you think after hearing you couldn't have a corned beef
sandwich up there? You think somehow you could have a

(18:41):
grilled cheese sandwich. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, because corn
beef can you know, spread out and go or where.
A good grilled cheese ain't gonna crumble. It's gonna be gooey.
So it'll all stick together and you'll be able to
keep it up. You know what.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
We keep rock solid logic up with it. Yeah, I
know what, you man. I'm not gonna make that into
a dirty thing. No, of course you're not. No, we're
talking about grilled cheese. Ooey, gooey grilled cheese sandwich, dripping
and smothering off your lips. What would be sexual and
dirty about that?

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I can't think of a thing.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Oh and remember Friday is best day of my life.
You seem happy this morning. I am happy because it's Friday.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Because it's Friday, this is cause for celebration. Fidy Wilton
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